Witnessed two very different realities, regardless of how you view these last few months of death and destruction, what transpired if the city raises a series of questions regarding a collective failure to end the war to bring all the hostages home and to stop the indiscriminate large-scale killing of palestinians. saturday over 200 palestinians were killed in israel on a refugee camp according to the government media office marking one of the bloodiest single days we have witnessed in eight months of war. videos of the aftermath show streets littered with debris and dead bodies, some images to disturbing that we can t even show you on screen. one witness described the scene to reuters by saying, quote, it was like a poor movie but this was a real massacre, bombs rained down on nusirat, israeli security forces were conducting a raid in the same area, after the strike, francesca alba knees, the repertoire condemns the mission saying that although she was relieved that four hostages have been released, it should not have come at the expense of 200 palestinians, she called it quote, humanitarian, flaws at another level. today s raid marks the third is really rescue attempt since october seventh. they said a hostage was brought home in the immediate aftermath of the attack. two more men were rescued after forces stormed an apartment in the area and those airstrikes also killed more than 60 palestinians including women and children according to local officials. we cannot forget three is really hostages were killed by the israeli military back in december and that happened after soldiers mistakenly identified them as a threat and opened fire on them despite the fact that they were waving white flags. so for the vast majority of israeli hostages have been released through temporary cease-fires, not wanton destruction and killing of palestinians likely witnessed today. the successful rescue missions few and far between and taking massive tolls on civilians. how many innocent palestinians killed is acceptable to rescue is really hostages especially since more than 100 hostages are still the leaf to be held by hamas and their families also want to see their loved ones home safely. family members of the hostages have been adamant that the only way to return all of those being held by hamas is through a cease-fire deal. however a cease-fire deal remains elusive with some powerful cabinet ministers rejecting any such efforts. the israeli prime minister is now using today s operation to try to ease mounting political pressure on him to resign urging one of his rivals and members of the cabinet who is reported to be quitting, to now reconsider and today may be another test for biden who has pushed for a cease-fire deal and may find the newly emboldened prime minister is inclined to defy the american president just to prolong this war to the detriment of the remaining hostages in palestine. we will follow the story and bring you any news as it develops. from silicon valley to the halls of congress, this week we learned cancel culture is alive and well and some would argue, it s surging and in this country and its targets share one thing in common, we start in the tech world where a software engineer sued mehta, a former employee is now alleging that mehta discriminated against him and unlawfully filed them after he filed complaints that the company was censoring palestinian creators. the complaint says he was simply doing his job since his role including assessing the quality of testing filters as it related to gaza and ukraine. shortly after the piece went live the long reviews website was shut down, according to the publication student editors, they solicited the peace and they followed all of the normal publishing protocols however they say they were then pressured by the board of directors to hold publication of this academic article which accuses israel of committing genocide and upholding an apartheid regime, when the editors refuse the request, the board made up a faculty and alumni from the law school and they shut it down. meanwhile in the west coast, in an industry that has a troubling history when it comes to blacklists, a prominent marketing executive is raising eyebrows over a memo she sent to her staff, ashley margolis, told employees that they should, quote, pause on working with any celebrity or influencer or taste maker posting against israel. according to variety the firm works with many top talent and public relations agency and noted that margolis was particularly adamant about not working with anyone who has used the term genocide to describe israel s actions. margolis declined to comment, taking together, these stories show the high price that is levied by those who are speaking out no matter what field you are in or how accomplished you are in the field, talking about the devastation in gaza could cost you. this stands in contrast with another story from this week, the new york times revealed that the government has been waging a secret influence campaign targeting u.s. lawmakers since october, the campaign used fake accounts and websites to spread content and mainly targeted lack lawmakers. on one hand we have palestinian voices or those who speak up for palestinians fired, cancer, demoted, marginalized or shut down and on the other we have the israeli government, secretly spending millions to amplify their message to the world and this and balance in power, this skewing of the public discourse comes to mind, when you consider this, the israeli prime minister will be coming to washington to address a joint session of congress on july 24th, invited by a bipartisan group of congressional leaders including senator schumer who took to the floor of congress to denounce the prime minister calling him an obstacle to peace and alleging that he s been placing his personal survival ahead of his nation s interest. now, and what amounts to a political win for benjamin netanyahu, congress will be welcoming him with open arms. remember, this is the same man who addressed a joint session of congress back in 2015 for the sole purpose of subverting the nuclear deal that obama and then his vice president joe biden, were negotiating with iran at this. this is a man who has a history of meddling in domestic american politics attempting to tip the scales in elections towards republicans including trump back in 2016 and now this is a man for whom the international criminal court is seeking an arrest warrant for war crimes and the international court of justice possibly believes is committing a genocide in gaza. you may be wondering how it s possible that after all that we have witnessed someone like prime minister benjamin netanyahu is getting the red carpet treatment in washington. when the debate in this country and on this issue is so skewed in favor of one side and voices of dissent are stifled, we end up with an alleged war criminal to be welcomed with open arms by our elected officials to the heart of american political power. this case that you find yourself in, and i believe there is an update, the student editors at columbia law review who have been battling with the say that your piece is up on the website, it s titled as a legal concept. tell me briefly, what was so controversial about this piece that you wrote these things? thank you for having me, i can t sit here in good conscience and talk about my piece as if this was the focal point, here especially today as you reported over 200 people in gaza were slaughtered in the refugee camp. and there is a continuum between the material reality and gaza, the genocide and the silencing of palestinian voices specifically in the u.s. this attempts to silence in this case my voice but other voices, it s a reflection of dissent that s intended to manufacture consent, now, as for the article itself, the board of directors have attached a disclaimer or a statement basically on the home page of the columbia law review, trying to undermine the peace, allegations that were refuted by the student editors and in fact, the editors of the columbia law review have announced a strike so they are striking to protest the boards statement, to protest their infringement of the process and guarantee academic freedom and independence. you think what has happened here, what was done to your piece was meant to be a chilling effect for other you know, academics like yourself who want to advance legal concepts surrounding the rights of palestinians. i asked the same question, i think what is so scary about it, it s a scholarly piece, well substantiated and the fact that the board could not did they tell you any reason why, in either case did anyone come to you and say here is what we find problematic with your scholarship? in this case the board of directors shut down the website and they didn t even contact me up until today. so i haven t officially heard from them. i think it speaks more to their sloppy manner with which they are handling the situation. up until today they could not cite any claims against the peace, we worked on this for over six months editing back and forth and i think it s extensive and i m grateful for the student enters for the work and the professionalism that they extended. shamir, i wanted to talk to you about what you and your client are going through and what you are alleging, can you walk me through the allegations that you and your client are making on behalf of what you are charging meadow with? my client was a coveted software engineer, he was recruited by facebook at meta and he noticed that the account had irregularities, so he started looking into that account and he was told to immediately stop and within a few weeks, he was terminated simply because they said that he might have known, and what s absurd is he has not met with, and the sole basis for the rationale was because my client is palestinian, they must know each other. now apply the same process for any other minority group, it would be the equivalent of firing and african american engineer for trying to fix an issue with for example beyonci s account simply because they are both african american, that is literally their basis, he received excellent performance reviews for every year he was at meta and applauded for going above and beyond, and they simply fired him because they said he is palestinian and he shouldn t be looking at irregularities of another individual whose also palestinian. this is the first time meta has been accused of censoring palestinian voices. what have you learned about the company during this process, do you believe there was based on what you ve been able to learn, a systemic suppression of palestinian voices or do you think they were certain singularly targeting your client. let me provide you one anecdote. i recently learned that meta had an employer reece s fair where the muslim group had watermelons as decorations, and their booth was shut down, even though the flyer for the event itself had watermelons, because it s a summer event. that is the level of silencing that is going on for data employees, i ve heard from a number of current employees, a lot of investigations and another anecdote, they launched hr investigations for employees simply having the palestinian flag in their bio despite other employees having the israeli or ukrainian flags and their bio, this is targeted towards palestinians and these efforts at silencing them are having ripple effects for the palestinians who are still at meta and the purpose of our lawsuit is twofold, one, we want the employees who are still at meta to know that we support them and number 2, we want to send a clear message to meta, we are not afraid of you and you will not silence us. can you tell us about how your client is doing, given all the turmoil that he s had to endure as a result? he is extremely courageous, his name has been all over the media, and i think he is just one of many individuals but he is an individual who decided to speak up despite any ramifications, he s doing okay right now but his primary concern is for his former colleagues who are still at meta and have to deal with these issues on a daily basis. let me ask you about the double standards, when you see what is happening to you and when you hear allegedly, what s happening to, and you see the prime minister of israel getting the red carpet treatment into the halls of power, what, how, how do you reconcile this? you know i think it speaks more, for example, in the case of the columbia review, it speaks more on the board of directors, it s embarrassing on their behalf and i think it s shameful and you know, it exposes that fear in this country and i m proud to speak up and i m proud of my scholarship and i encourage everybody, whatever privilege they have to use this privilege to speak up. these are the times to silence palestinians and other voices who speak up against 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thank you for having me, i m excited to be on here with kimberly, i use the statistic that even with my harvard undergrad and my degrees, as a black woman and i am several times more likely to die of childbirth complications than a white woman with a high school education. that is how deeply embedded systemic racism is in this country and i m so glad the commonwealth research report exposed what the solutions are that we need, there are other high income countries that have you know more midwives and have paid family leave and so when i was giving birth to my children, i was so worried, i was scared because of those statistics because i knew that i profession, my level of education, i income, was not protective. kimberly, you cofounded kindred space, addressing the black maternal health crisis, can you talk about why postpartum care is actually so important and why it is being overlooked, nearly 2 out of three maternal deaths and the u.s. occurred during the postpartum period up to 42 days after birth. right, well thank you for having me here and thank you dr. blackstock for inviting me as well and thank you for talking about postpartum care because i think that people only about complications that can happen with pregnancy and in birth, but as soon as you give birth to a baby you are in your postpartum, and complications can happen immediately in the postpartum or further out when the patient has already been discharged and are at home. and one of the reasons why these complications are so problematic is because we don t have a very good structure in this country to take care of women postpartum, most people will be seen one time by their physician at about six weeks postpartum and unfortunately between birth and six weeks postpartum, there are many things that can arise including preeclampsia, that can present itself in the postpartum period as well as hemorrhaging, that can happen in the immediate postpartum but can also happen when a patient is already home and if she doesn t have access to care, she could die and that is what is happening, and i ve kindred space l.a., one of the things that we have done is to make sure that we had frequent check ins with our clients and we are able to do that because we are not following the insurance company s motto that says we are only going to pay for one visit, and this is part of the reason people don t get seymour often is because folks aren t able to get paid for seeing patients more frequently. let me pick up on that, dr. blackstock. what do you see as other core factors contributing to this lack maternal health crisis. there s a variety of issues that we have identified among them shortages in ob/gyn s but the broader usl care system where it s not accessible or guaranteed by any means, the commonwealth fund report mentions all high income countries it reviewed the sides the u.s. mandate at least 14 weeks of paid maternity leave from work, so it seems to be a total problem on many levels, is that correct? yeah these are systemic issues, policies we know that other high income countries have, and even the fact that kimberly mentioned, the presence of midwives, a lot of people in the u.s., even myself as a physician, i didn t know about the midwife in the child birthing process, i didn t understand that midwives follow birthing people through the entire lifecycle so this is what i did not learn in medical school in the u.s., the birthing process is very medical eyes and that s because of historical policies that pushed out midwives and centered care on physicians and the more physicians that are involved in the process, the more complications can arise, the more c-sections are likely to happen or other types of invasive procedures, so we need to look toward other countries and see how other countries are having a safer process, as kimberly mentioned, the postpartum support, i only had one single postpartum visit after i gave birth to both my children. that s not enough, we know most of those deaths happen in the postpartum period and for the states that need to expand medicaid, it needs to happen and it needs to be able to cover or than a year postpartum so that birthing people are supported. kimberly, i know we were talking about the systemic problems but what do you think needs to be done in order to address and bring an end to this crisis, what is your vision for the kind of healthcare system we currently need and what changes need to be enacted that we can do in the short term to bring the rates down as quickly as possible? that s such a great question and i m all about solutions, for me, it was for me to become a midwife, i had midwives for the birth of my children and i knew the care was much more than i was experiencing in mainstream healthcare and to that end, we need more models such as what we have in california, martin luther king community hospital in south l.a. is a great model, they are it with free lead and they take medi-cal and they are accessible and they have wonderful quality care, collaborative care and they are always under threat for closure, again back to the problem of proper insurance reimbursement, even though their outcomes are excellent, at the top of their game for california, the c-section rate is very low, they have problems staying open because the midwifery model isn t well integrated into the insurance system and they are running at a deficit every year, so they resented solutions, the policymakers need to work with these hospitals and keep this care available to people. dr. blackstock, final five, we are at a point where we are seeing abortion bans being enacted right now how do you see these crises intersect at some point? absolutely, ayman, this is a racial justice issue, the fact that we have these restrictive abortion policies, especially in states where there are already high mortality rates, there already are maternity deserts, meaning there are not enough maternal providers and, we know and a lot of these states, disproportionately people of color are the ones that are seeking abortions, so we need to make sure that we don t see worse rates as a result of these policies and that is something that i know a lot of reproductive justice groups are working on. very important conversation, we ve got to do something about it in this country. it is just unacceptable. thank you so much to the both of you. after the break, congressman byron donalds, and dan bishop battle it out for our worst of the week title. t known er, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. depending on the type of cancer, keytruda may be used alone or in combination with other treatments, and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it s time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. 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you put up a tough choice, but i m going to have to go with byron donalds, just for the sheer historiography of what he said like don t get me wrong, both of them are wrong in their framing of this, the ship tried to claim that having a tough jury pool like trump supposedly did in manhattan for his hush money trial is the same as segregation alabama, that s bad, what donalds said was making no sense especially the part that killed me was when he suggested during jim crow, black voters voted more conservatively when a huge part of jim crow was disenfranchising black people from voting at all. so, yeah, i will give it to donalds, because of just how little sense what he said makes. who is your pick? i will respectfully disagree with my friend hayes, and i agree with this, both are bad, both are despicable but i think donalds made a mistake like i think he could take back what he said. i think he wishes he could take it back because it was stupid to reference jim crow, part of what he was getting at was the rise in out of wedlock births among blacks in america, that s a legitimate interesting discussion but he didn t do that and he threw in jim crow and it just messed up and made everything he said wrong. ayman, bishop meant what he said and in essence, what did bishop say? he said donald trump is being treated every bit as poorly as black americans when black americans were discriminated against, segregated against, lynched and killed and institutional racism and our justice system. he meant it, bishop meant it, and that is atrocious to compared donald trump to that. very valid points there, joe, on the meaning of both, let me play for you donalds was on with joy reed, let me play for both of you what he said, listen. if a black man, a black father could not protect his wife, his son, or himself from lynching and violence, how is him being in the home team that that is an era that was better for the black family or that we should think of is a good thing. first of all joy, i never said it was better for black people in jim crow, i have never said that and my own words say that. so, it s remarkable, again, he is still denying that he said black families were better off even though we have the tape . he is the one that invoked jim crow and to joe s point, you know, he could ve said the 40s and 50s if he wanted to make an observation of the social behavior at the time but he decided to invoke jim crow as the reference point, you can talk about the economy and the issues but he decided to use jim crow as the contextual framework for the point that he was trying to make. absolutely, and he was trying to put it in the framework, to joe s point, i get that you may believe that donalds was misspeaking when he said jim crow, i take issue with the broader points that he was making as well, the idea that it was specifically johnson and welfare movements to try and help people. part of the reason why there was so much backlash against the welfare programs was because even though they helped white people a lot, there was a movement amongst the right to try and cut funds to welfare programs by convincing white people that it only helped black americans. there were so many things that were happening, divorce rates went up across the board, you have issues dealing with the way that even like the union worked and the way that employment worked in america, the way that you saw the rise of the war on drugs and that breaking up the black family, there are so many points that could have been brought in but donalds did none of that and he leaned on the idea that he leaned on the idea that things were better before. don t go anywhere, we ve got a lot more to discuss and we will do a second round of worst of the week and involves a guy named, well, we will tell you about it after the break, stay t with us. non-small cell lung cancer. keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies before surgery when you have early-stage lung cancer, which can be removed by surgery, and then continued alone after surgery to help prevent your lung cancer from coming back. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. keytruda is an immunotherapy and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. these days everyone is staring at screens, and watching their spending. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that s why america s best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping. in 99% of people over 50. and it could strike at any time. think you re not at risk? 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man, some hard-hitting stuff right there from dr. phil, my panel is back, joe, i ll start with you, dr. phil fancies himself an expert on mental health and yet he thinks trump is thick-skinned and isn t needy and does not need to be loved, did he get his degree from trump university, that is my question. i will avoid the question and i ll just say this, it is impossible, i mean impossible, to conduct a more sycophantic adoring, on your knees, cultish, interview than that. i mean, and, in your earlier clip, dr. phil said, i don t engage in politics. bull crap, that s exactly what he did, he got down on his knees to make donald trump look good. that was pathetic. hayes, this was dr. phil going on cnn and i kid you not, he thinks he made progress with convincing trump not to go after his political enemies, watch. i think i really made some headway with him that that is not the way to go. i think it s a process, i think he will turn this over and over in his mind and i don t think he will do that. i mean, who is this guy kidding? it s wild to say that. on several levels. first on the idea that he could get through to trump at all it was supposedly just an interview talking to trump and the idea that in talking to him, he is now less inclined to go after his political enemies, he has said he wanted to do it, we should believe him when he said he wants to go after his political enemies and it downplays, it self aggrandizing him, dr. phil thing i know he said it but i really think i got through to him also, it s funny how many times people who have interviewed trump have tried to be like okay but you don t really want to go after people to you and trump like no i really do. i really do. no, but no, yes, i promise i do and i really think we have to believe him. joe, i ve got one more contender, alex jones, the far right conspiracy theorist has agreed to liquidate his assets in order to finally start paying the $1.5 billion he owes in damages to the families of the sandy hook victims who he spread lies about, too little too late? is this important? too little too late, he s trash, i ve got to get back to this, hayes said it, look, this is fascism, trump is saying over and over and over, if he is elected he will go after his political enemies, this is fascism and it s embarrassing and dangerous that dr. phil and as hayes said, all of trump s media cheerleaders are trying to talk him off of this, we have to put a spotlight on it. how do you explain phil coming out of nowhere trying to get on this action? i think he has a new show to promote. we are talking about it. we would not be talking about dr. phil s new show if he had not done something as wild as ring on trump and say i got through to him on not going after his political enemies. tune in next week to see who else i can rehabilitate. unfortunately, it has worked, we re talking about it but only thankfully the context of, why it was such a bad idea. was in a bad idea to have him as worst of the week? not at all because ayman, it s a serious point, the serious point is trump is threatening to go after his enemies so use the joke that is dr. phil and all the others trying to get him off of it. i m not trying to belittle the situation because we laugh during worst of the week, i m trying to say, listen this guy is influential. millions of people watching, trump goes on his show and then just says blatantly that he s going to go after his political enemies and that is dangerous. thank you to the both of you, greatly appreciate it as always and thank you for making time for us at home. join us tomorrow night 7:00 eastern on msnbc, more all-out over the support for israel, major harrison man will join us to talk about his decision to resign from the u.s. army in test over the biden administration s policies in gaza. have a good night. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions. like what is your glucose and can you have more carbs? 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might remember something was going on. the country was sort of distracted. every news organization when donald trump had a verdict. the jury found him guilty on all 34 charges. he totally melted down. earning what i think was the headline for the ages from that day. convicted, trump blames judge, jury, and country gone to hell. what a nice man. what a leader. but while that was happening in new york, there was a big surprise in michigan. now, do you remember seeing this tape? this was from right after the 2020 election. it was december 14 of 2020. this really appear today be a crime being committed there on tape. and an important crime. these are republicans in michigan showing up at the door of the state capitol, demanding that they be let inside because they insisted that they were michigan s votes for the electoral college. since december 14th was the day all the states were casting their votes, these guys demanded to be let in to cast michigan s electoral college votes for trump. which is not the way it works because trump lost michigan and biden won. but these republicans were pretending to be the real electors and demanding to be let in. and that police officer stopped them. and he was very polite. he was like, the soul of patience. very kind to them. he was very, very firm with them. he is so patient. the electors are here and you re not them. he stops them from what they were going to do. get themselves into the state capitol. that was in 2020. that was the middle of the effort to try to overturn the election results and have trump stay in power though he lost. i say that looked like a crime being committed and an important one because those fake electors have been criminally indicted for what they did there. for conspiracy to commit forgery and election law forgery. the 16 fake trump electors were all charged with those felony counts. and in that criminal case in michigan, there were 11 other people besides the fake electors who were listed as unindicted coconspirators in that same case including former president trump himself and his then lawyer rudy giuliani who has since had his law license removed. the prosecutor described trump s status in the michigan case by saying quote he is a part of the investigation. but he hasn t been charged with a crime yet. hasn t been charged yet. in court proceedings on that criminal case. because there are felony charges pending against the fake electors themselves. last week, there was testimony from that particular police official. the same guy who had to personally bar the door of the state capitol when they were trying to get in. on thursday, while trump was being convicted in his new york criminal case, he, this michigan state police captain now, he was being interviewed by the fbi and by federal prosecutors from washington dc. wait a second. i thought he was testifying in a state case. a state criminal case that has been brought against those fake electors, yes, he was, but he testified he had just been in touch with federal prosecutors and the fbi. so in that michigan fake elector s prosecution, michigan is one of four states where they are pending. prosecutor says he is not charged under michigan law. we find out in surprise testimony that federal prosecutors as of right now, as of thursday, are interviewing people who saw what happened with the attempted overthrow of the election in michigan. there haven t been federal charges brought in michigan. right? trump is already facing federal criminal charges for trying to overthrow the government and stay in power after losing the 2020 election. those charges were brought in dc. but it would appear that federal investigation into that overall matter is still open. if federal prosecutors from dc and the fbi are still investigating and still interviewing people right now. if they are doing so, and according to that police captain s testimony they are, i would guess the fbi and federal prosecutors are still looking into the michigan fake electors matter. there is already the federal criminal indictment against donald trump, maybe these interviews with important figures in this matter in michigan indicates the possibility of a superseding federal indictment. maybe additional charges for the same defendant who has already been charged. trump may be potentially adding more defendants to it. we do not know. but, that michigan state case is still open and ongoing and it is apparently a matter of active investigation by federal prosecutors and the fbi as well. knock me over with a feather right? that was unexpected for me. it is a reminder that things may not unfold the way any of us is expected. and you may think you are sort of running through the tape in this stuff and you look ahead and realize there s a lot more tape and lots more intervals. i mean, who knows how this is going to unfold. and for how long. this is the first former president to ever be criminally indicted. then he got criminally indicted three more times. he was the first former president to face a criminal trial. then he became the first former president ever convicted of a felony. then he was convicted of two felonies, then three, then four, then ultimately 34. he is named as an unindicted coconspirator in the criminal case against arizona republicans who helped try to overthrow the election result ins that state. he is named as an unindicted coconspirator in the case in michigan as well. things are not necessarily going to unfold the way we are expecting. and none of this is over. yes, if trump gets elected in november, that s one thing. but if he loses in november, this is all going to go on for a very long time in lots of different places which is important for us to think about as a country. because we have a legal system that we use for all sorts of things. including for holding people accountable for when they try to overthrow the government. and we have now got not just trump and his most rabid followers, but we have now got a whole republican party that is on the record, deeply and radically invested in delegitimizing the american legal system in the eyes of the american people. which means in practical terms, that the people who end up, it is by choice, sometimes it s not. these people are going to need protecting in an ongoing way. stormy daniels to whom the push money payment was made that was falsely booked in trump s business record which is why he was convicted of 34 felonies. stormy daniel has done her first interview since the verdict. and in that first interview, you can see that she is just, an emotional interview. you can see she is overwhelmed in particular by the revelation though this one trump case is over, this whole thing is never going to be over for her. it is not how i feel. it is how i don t feel. i am obviously glad of the verdict. it proves i was telling the truth. that i was not paid for sex. it was not a prostitution job. i was not an escort or a prostitute. but i guess i just thought i would put the bow on the package and it would be all tied up and good. the good part is, i don t have to go to court again because that s never fun. you always feel like you are the bad guy even when you are not. because being on the stand is intimidating with all the jurors looking at you. i m glad some stuff came out in court that i wanted to come out. and it proved like i said, i have been telling the truth the entire time. but at the same time, emotionally, it is not over. it is probably i realize, it is probably never going to be over for me. he has the patience of a saint. and he is brave i think. i know what his life is going to be like in the immediate future. i fear for the jurors as well. i fear for the jurors as well. nbc news reporting that the other main prosecution witness in the trump criminal trial michael cohen has since the verdict had his whole family doxed. people have posted street addresses for his wife and children and other identifying information. nbc news reported in the immediate wake of the verdict, pro trump message boards posted a high volume of violent threats toward the prosecutor and the judge in the new york case including what purported to be the home address of the district attorney alvin bragg and the home addresses for some of the jurors from the case. this is what it is like for people who are part of a legal system. and this is an ongoing thing. this is not going away. there s lots of pending cases against trump. and, these threats and the harassment and intimidation of people who are involved, witnesses, jurors, prosecutors, court personnel. the intimidation campaign against everyone they have involved. they circulated the purported names and photographs of members of the grand jury in fulton county georgia. this year before trump was convicted in march and april. reuters counted at least 152 posts on three pro trump websites. urging the beating or killing of judge merchan or judge mcafee. one january 6th convict who has served his prison sentence taking part in the trump mob attack, he posted on twitter. a noose. it is designed to make the legal system unworkable when it comes to trump. it is designed to make people more willing to participate in the system if trump is involved in the case. they want you to fear for your life and the live of your family. that s the basic idea behind it. right? we are all supposed to be so scared of what he will do. we are supposed to be so scared of how crazy his supporters will go, to be safe, we should let him do whatever he wants. anything that annoys him or holds him back or punishes him for what he has done, they will get so mad and we should be so scared of what he will do. because oh, you wouldn t like them when they re mad. trump was asked about his potentially being sent to prison when he gets sentenced next month. he said this in response. he said quote, i don t know that the public would stand for it. i m not sure the public would stand for it. i think it would be tough for the public to take. at a certain point, there is a breaking point. he is saying you jail me, there will be a breaking point. the public won t stand for it. sounds like a threat right? it is a threat. he wants us all to feel threatened. he makes the same threat all the time. september, 2022 after the fbi served the search warrant, he said i don t know how much more our country will be willing to withstand. two months later, december, 2022, all caps. the people of this country are not going to take it much longer. then he was asked about the possibility of him being criminally indicted. he said i think you will have problems in this country the likes of which we have never seen before. i don t think the people of the united states would stand for it. i this i they would have big problems. i don t think they would stand for it. in march, 2023, he said if he was indicted, it would rain down death and destruction. that he said would be catastrophic for our country. death and destruction if he were indicted. then he was indicted. then, last summer after he was indicted, he was asked about a possible prison sentence. he say theres will be civil war level catastrophic violence if anything happens to him. like an indictment or an arraignment which has happened multiple times. like a conviction which has happened 34 times. every step of the way, he has made the same threat. death and destruction, like nothing the country has ever seen before. it was not actually what they do. it is not actually how the country feels. most people in this country think the verdict was the right thing. the country is not rising up en masse to defend him. the country thinks, he committed crimes and it makes sense he was convicted of them. these threats that if anything happens to him in the legal system, the country won t stand for it and there will be mass violence and there will be blood in the streets and there will be riots. that is not happening. what is happening is his followers are terrorizing individual people. involved in the legal process. and the republican party at the highest level and with almost total uniformity is simultaneously telling the american people that the american legal system is bunk and they shouldn t respect or trust it and republicans at the state level are not just tolerating and trying to get away with election crimes to help trump, criminal election subversion is now being celebrated and rewarded even in places where criminal prosecutions of these folks are ongoing. places like arizona and nevada. fake trump electors are charged with felonies there. but the accused felons have been given new jobs. state representatives to the republican national committee. they have done the same with one of the fake electors in wisconsin. where republicans are trying to recall a state legislative leader who acted with insufficient fervor to overthrough the election results in wisconsin when biden won that state and trump lost. in nevada, two of the states official electors for the 2024 election will be people who are currently under indictment for what they did as fake electors in the last election. in the republican party right now, january 6th defendants are hostages and hero who s will be fully and immediately pardoned. fake electors will be new party leaders. brave souls who said no to the coup. people who democrats and normal people briefly tried to lionize for their bravery. they are rejected. while prosecutors and judges and witnesses and jurors are hounded and threatened daily. this is not something about which you can put your head down and wait it out. because these cases are going to go on and on. but we are in a moment where the burden of intimidation and harassment and threat and violence, the burden of what is going on in the trump movement is terroristic. it is not mass violence. the burden of what is being threatened against our fellow americans is falling disproportionately on on a small number of people. to try to pick them off. in order to intimidate the whole country. there isn t a civil war. there isn t a riot. i was promised there would be riots if trump were convicted. there were no riots. there hasn t even been a good sized trump protest in years. they are not using mass action. they are using targeted harassment and threats toward specific people to try to cow all of us. to make us all scared of anything that holds trump to account and punishes him for committing crimes. so the solution to that is not rocket science. it is not complex. it s like a couple of things fairly obviously. one, we defend more than we have been. the people being intimidated and harassed and threatened, because they are standing in for all of us. we as a country will change our behavior. we will in the words of tim snyder s book, we will advance, we will cower and try to make sure we only do things that make trump happy. because we are so scared of the response. there are individual people who are bearing the brunt of terroristic intimidation by the pro trump movement that is designed to carol all scare all of us. if we don t stand up for those people, it is a self-fulfilling prophesy. they can all be protected. second. we have a report coming up live from michigan where the testimony from the end of last week opened a spotlight on the fact that there might be further federal criminal charges related to the efforts to overthrow the election. we should not cower about the prospect that trump and his supporters will get mad if trump is held to account. yes, they will be mad. more federal charges could be brought. if so, so be it. there is no reason anybody should shy away are the that. more state charges may yet be brought. there are open investigations, not guilty just in michigan, but in some of the other states, they have pronounced trump to be an unindicted coconspirator. they said the investigation is ton going. in more states, there may yet be more state charges. if that is where investigations lead, so be it. no reason anybody should shy from that. we are at a moment when the republican party says the legal system doesn t work. the criminals are the heros. everybody involved in making the legal system work should feel fear for their lives. the country should rain down fire if he faces any more legal consequences. the republican party is wrong about that and trump is wrong about that. our system is strong. and so are we. and so are we. watch me. with cascade platinum plus i have upped my dish game. i just scrape. load. and i m done. in that dishwasher? in that dishwasher. only platinum plus is packed with more dawn to remove up to 100% of grease and food residue. get the highest standard of clean, even in your machine. clean enough for ya? yeah. scrape, load, done. cascade platinum plus. dare to dish differently. it s never a good time for migraine, especially when i m on camera. that s why my go-to is 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i think they are anticipating this generally. right? there is anticipated to be tons of protest. battles over permits already happening. the idea is this looks like something russia could exploit. and something the experts could have told us here. i know that democrats have been speaking with confidence including to you and your colleagues at the sun times. is it your sense, are you hearing from democratic officials from convention planners that they are sort of on the alert for malign efforts like the ones you and your colleagues describe today. we haven t heard that from planning officials and the chicago police department. people coming up with the protest zone. these were more from us having this idea that hey, foreign influence campaign had such a huge impact on the 2016 election. what is happening now, and so, we started to do research. and we started to as news reporters do, pick up the phone and call very smart people who were experts. and kind of hear them out. a lot of what we heard. we have pro palestinian protesters targeting the president now. ishes with racial justice. the ground is set for russia to come in and do what they have done in the past. tom, thanks for your reporting on this. i appreciate it. sure rachel. much more news ahead. stay with us. stay with us. visionworks. see the difference. innovation in health care means nothing if no one can afford it. at evernorth, we re helping to unlock barriers. using our 35 plus years of pharmacy benefits management experience to save businesses billions while boosting medication adherence. helping plan sponsors and their members be at their best. that s wonder made possible. evernorth health services. dad is a legend. and his legendary moves might be passed down to you. dancing is just one of the many inherited traits you can discover with ancestry dna. get it for dad, and together you can see which traits were inherited, the places where they started, and the people he shares them with. best of all, it s on sale for father s day. but get movin , this sale is only for a limited time. choose advil liqui-gels for faster, stronger and longer-lasting relief than tylenol rapid release gels because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. so for faster pain relief, advil the pain away. my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia, started disrupting my day. td felt embarrassing. i felt like disconnecting. i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ingrezza ingrezza is clinically proven for reducing td. most people saw results in just two weeks. people taking ingrezza can stay on most mental health meds. only number-one prescribed ingrezza has simple dosing for td: always one pill, once daily. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington s disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have thoughts of suicide. don t take ingrezza if you re allergic to its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including angioedema, potential heart rhythm problems, and abnormal movements. report fevers, stiff muscles, or problems thinking as these may be life threatening. sleepiness is the most common side effect. take control by asking your doctor about ingrezza. ingrezza from pep in their step to shine in their coats, when people switch their dog s food to the farmer s dog, the effects can seem like magic. but there s no magic involved. 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i think you hit on a couple of them. this is ongoing. the attorney general s staff is trying to figure out what the guidance was that was provided to these 16 electors whose signatures ended up on this certificate claiming donald trump had won michigan 16 elector votes. the investigation is ongoing. there is a federal probe that is ongoing as you mentioned. the key thing here is the attorney general s office has to prove as part of his case to be successful, these individuals had an intent to defraud the public. the question is, did these individuals have that intent? or was someone essentially fooling them into signing this document not letting them know what the true purpose of the document was and turning it around, taking their signatures and doing something different than what they had told them they were going to do? that s the crux of all of this. it is not their attempt at fraud, if it is someone else s, the question is whose was that and why have they not been charged so far? right. and to have the state prosecutors in michigan, the investigators say we have these 16 defendants but here are another 11 people unindicted coconspirators including the former president. they are painting a sprawling picture. but the charges haven t necessarily followed all of the all of the allegations. part of the reason i wanted to talk to you, i was surprised by this revelation you reported in court that there appear to be an ongoing federal investigation here. a federal investigation on top of what s going on with the state. do you have any sense from what has been disclosed in court what the contours might be of that federal investigation? well, the police captain who revealed this, and everyone in the courtroom was surprised by this. the defense attorneys were surprised. even the judge used the word surprised to talk about this. statement that was made by the michigan police captain all of a sudden out of the blue is kind of a traditional line of questioning. who else have you talked to? and this police captain says oh, i talked to some people yesterday from washington dc. everyone froze for a second. what do you mean you talked to someone from washington dc yesterday? he said that this interview focused on the electors. this was an interview that lasted some amount of time talking about the fake electoral votes that the people brought to the doorstop of the michigan capital on december 14th, 2020. he said that they didn t ask about specific individuals. he had a list of names they asked about this person. it must have been from what i could tell from his testimony, must have been overall what happened when you were at the doorstep. what happened? it was fbi, fbi personnel, and federal prosecutors. exactly right. wow. it s amazing. it is important to keep your old tape when you play a tape of something. hold onto it. you never know when the fbi will finally follow up on the crime that you aired on your tv show. craig, you have really helped us and the whole country follow the nitty-gritty of these stories as they have unfolded and they unfold in more and more important ways so we are grateful for you. thank you. thank you for having me. craig, politics reporter for the detroit news. all right. we ll be right back. stay with us. be right back. stay with us. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that s why america s best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. here s to getting better with age. here s to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need. .without the stuff you don t. so, here s to now. boost. 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two women one serb, one albanian prepared to put aside the divisions that tore their worlds apart. the late 1990s conflict between serb forces and albanian insurgents for the future of the former yugoslav province of kosovo left thousands dead. serbian forces attempted to rid the region of its ethnic albanian population. the kosovo liberation army retaliated. many civilians died most of them men. around 5,800 people disappeared. 25 years later, and almost 1,600 people are still missing, leaving many mothers, wives, and sisters to lament birthdays uncelebrated, weddings unplanned, and grandchildren unborn. among them, kujtime, an ethnic albanian who s lived all her life in the city that s become kosovo s lasting symbol of ethnic partition. it was during that time that tragedy struck. dragica, an ethnic serb, lived in kosovo until the war forced her to flee to serbia. her 17 year old son, ivan, went missing on the ill fated journey tojoin her. during spring 1999, the war in kosovo entered its most intense phase. nato intervened in the war, targeting serbian forces they accused of ethnic cleansing. crimes against civilians intensified. kujtime and her family found themselves at the centre of a massacre in mitrovica, at theirfamily home. over the years, the experts working on recovering the missing have faced many obstacles in locating and identifying the remains. kosovo unilaterally declared independence from serbia in 2008. many countries recognise its independence, but not serbia. but, for experts to excavate the mass graves, both sides must work together. families of the missing on opposite sides faced the same problems. many spent years contacting institutions, governments, the military, embassies, and journalists in a desperate attempt to find any trace of their relatives. it took years before serbia and kosovo finally cooperated. but when they did, they worked jointly for over a decade, investigating and discovering new mass graves, and bringing news of missing loved ones to many families. they had identified two thirds of the missing before work stopped in 2021, due to rising tensions between belgrade and pristina. organisations on both sides of the former conflict are determined that the missing third are not forgotten. in mitrovica, gjyla haziri, together with kujtime, has been documenting the missing. dragica and kujtime lived 35km from each other in the same country, yugoslavia. the break up of yugoslavia led to years of war and left communities divided none more so than in mitrovica. this bridge, built to connect, now divides. to the south kosovo albanians who are proud of what they see as their new country. to the north kosovo serbs who pledge their allegiance to another. to this day, kujtime does not feel welcome in the northern part of her city. before the war, dragica lived in pristina today, majority albanian. now she is returning to kosovo, to make contact with kujtime s organisation and visit her former neighbourhood. it s the day of missing persons in kosovo. to mark the occasion, the voice of parents organisation is calling for united multiethnic collaboration in the search for those still missing, and that the rights of families of the missing are not forgotten. kujtime never discovered how exactly her brother died, but she was one of those who found her missing relative s remains. after a decade of searching, they were excavated from a mass grave, along with a few personal belongings. dragica and kujtime have agreed to meet. emotions around the ethnic divides still run deep, and a meeting between women from different sides of the war is difficult for both of them. even though it s tough, both agree that these conversations have to be had. in serbia and kosovo, a generation has grown up not knowing the conflict and pain their parents knew. memories are fading. the world is moving on. but for those left behind, it remains an open wound. women like kujtime and dragica feel their respective governments have made promises they re yet to keep. they don t know when or how this will end. but in the meantime, they re united in their quest to preserve the memory of the missing. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers, mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start sunny, quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the northwest that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the northwest of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around 10 degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, southwest scotland, in towards north west england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill south eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far southwest, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 14 degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the southwest, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. you will live from london. this is bbc news israel has been criticised by a senior european union official over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation in gaza yesterday the mission was to rescue four hostages who had been held ship in the territory since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the uk ahead of a key week in which parties will set out their manifestos. major restoration work has begun in sweden to protect the wreck of a magnificent 17th century warship the vasa which is housed in a museum in stockholm. hello. i m catherine byaruhanga. the eu s most senior diplomat josep borrell has strongly condemned the killing of palestinians in israel s hostage rescue mission describing it as another massacre of civilians . four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october seventh attacks were freed during the raid in nuseirat, in central gaza, in broad daylight. 0ne israeli soldier died. the hamas run health ministry says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the raid. israel claims there were fewer than one hundred casualties. 0ur middle east correspondent hugo bachega has more from tel aviv. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th
will set parties will set out their manifestoes. thousands of motorcyclists arrived at the end of a mammoth right from london to cumbria. and in sport, joyful we go in a day of commemoration at wembley where rob burrow was paid tribute to, ahead of their challenge cup final. a sunny start for many of you, a more cloud, increasing, thickening and patchy rain as well. details on breakfast. good morning. the main story, israel has been criticised by the european union s matheny diplomat over the key kneeling of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza yesterday. josep borrell called the report another massacre of civilians. a woman and three men were rescued in a mission involving airstrikes around a refugee camp. hamas claims more than 210 palestinians were killed, is report the number below 100. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her father after a dramatic rescue. translation: father after a dramatic rescue. translation: ., , ., ., ., translation: please do not forget there are another translation: please do not forget there are another 120 translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages - translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages in i there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make an effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. either way, them to israel and theirfamilies. eitherway, it them to israel and theirfamilies. either way, it is my birthday. look at my gift! also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors were unable to treat many of the winter, many arrived dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. rescue was considered a success by israeli authorities and change the calculation of a leader under pressure. campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the lith ofjuly general election with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. 0ur political correspondent ian watson has the latest. the prime minister is in a market for votes, the main westminster parties will launch manifestoes in the week ahead, rishi sunak will be hoping ms the focus for emily on chip policy, not hoping ms the focus for emily on chip p°licy, not personality. hoping ms the focus for emily on chip policy, not personality. it will be keen to move on from the dd apology and so will his party, and his candidates have been out campaigning this weekend and we have been speaking this weekend. some of spoken about anger and disappointment and one of them is firstlings that whatever will happen next? all the trousers fall down? 0thers next? all the trousers fall down? others say they have not raised the issue at all in one candidate 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at lambeth. what more do we know about the situation? lambeth council have described about the situation? lambeth council have described what about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened - about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened as - about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened as a l have described what happened as a serious incident. let me step away from the camera and i can show you the funfair, butjust behind that, you will be able to see the funfair where the incident happened. we do not know what ride it was on but the police were called yesterdayjust before 630 in the evening. the council have confirmed there was a malfunction with one of the fairground rides, four people were injured and an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their 405, and a man and woman in their 405, and a man in his 505. there was a big emergency response, as you would expect, air ambulance, ambulance crews with paramedics, they were crew5 with paramedics, they were treated at the scene and then taken major trauma units. we understand their conditions are not thought to be life threatening but we do not know what injurie5 they have sustained the council has said there will be a thorough investigation following what they describe as a serious incident. thank you. an american veteran who flew back to france for the d day celebrations got married near the beaches where the allies landed eighty years ago. harold teren5, who is one hundred years old, married his ninety six year old fiancee, jeanne swerlin. harold visited france as an air force corporal, shortly after d day. they then attended the state banquet in paris, thrown by emmanuel macron forjoe biden. i’m in paris, thrown by emmanuel macron forjoe ewen- forjoe biden. i m 100 years old and m forjoe biden. i m100 years old and m bride forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and to forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be married, i my bride is 96 and to be married, it s my second, normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do rest of my life and be as happy as could be. ,, ,, ., ., could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, i could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, ifeel could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, | feel like, could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, i feel like, my - could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, i feel like, my god, - could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, | feel like, my god, i. yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i -ot yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i got butterflies, just like the young people! got butterflies, just like the young people! it is notjust the young people. people! it is notjust the young people, love, you know! we get butterflies we also get a little bit of action! butterflies we also get a little bit of action! ., , ., butterflies we also get a little bit of action! . , ., , . butterflies we also get a little bit i of action! and of action! that is a bit cheeky! and wh not? of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely walking - of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely walking on - of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely walking on air. congratulations to them both! she was saying they feel young and they seem young and sprightly. i thought the not seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the ages seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the ages wrong! seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the ages wrong! and - seem young and sprightly. i thought. they got the ages wrong! and someone else looking fabulous for his age, matt, good morning. else looking fabulous for his age, matt, good morning. bless you! life beains matt, good morning. bless you! life be . ins at matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102. matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? hope - matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? hope you| begins at 102, who knew? hope you are having a great weekend and it s lovely today weatherwise and this is just a short while ago in eastern scotland, blue skies across central and southern england but it is chilly, parts dropping as low as one degree. a cold start but for many, the sunshine is good, and some cards spilling in around some areas and patchy rain to go with it as well. the car has been streaming out across the north atlantic and here it comes, it will be sitting across northern ireland for much of the island, parts of northern england and north wales and spreading southwards and eastwards. lots of clear skies to begin with across the south and parts of scotland, continuing with sunny spells but a few showers over the mountaintops will be wintry. damp at times in north west england and wales with the odd shower elsewhere. sunny throughout the day, channel islands, parts of devon and cornwall as well is dorset in particular, temperatures up to 19 but there will be high pollen levels across much of england and wales. lower further north. we finished the day with a persistent rain in northern ireland, that was spread its way across england and wales are some of the garden, you may not have to water the pots tonight. clear skies later tonight, maybe some parts of scotland down to three degrees into monday morning but holding up, and not as cold in the south because of this weather system. it will clear away to start monday and sitting across is impulsive england, producing heavy rain at times and parts of yorkshire and lincolnshire, east anglia and the southeast, and that would take a while to shift away from parts of yorkshire and east anglia and may be lingering for some in the afternoon. west of that, a day of sunshine and showers. particularly in areas of scotland and for monday, northerly winds, making it phil cooler than today. temperatures around 12 15 and actually start to the week. the northerly winds bringing colder and down, crossing into tuesday, temperatures well down for where you want this stage injune. the cloud will build up eventually and a few showers brewing particularly across central and eastern areas and the core behaviour showers on parts of tuesday afternoon. further west, brighter and drier throughout but temperatures 10 16 degrees, 5 8 down for some of you on what we normally have at this stage of the year. call for the rest of the week, some showers around but there will be dry weather as well, so a bit of a washout of a week, even if it is not an especially warm one. the ressure not an especially warm one. the pressure on not an especially warm one. the pressure on public services is a key election issue and in an effort to understand the challenges, we will be reporting on three key areas over the coming days, education, courts and social care. this morning we are focusing on schools and their struggle to address a range of social issues beyond teaching. we have been to one primary school in telford where teachers are helping with potty training and basic communication. asimple a simple maths lesson a familiar part of the school day for most pupils. increasingly in classrooms are children who struggle to simply be at school. are children who struggle to simply be at school- be at school. early years have a number of be at school. early years have a number of children be at school. early years have a number of children who - be at school. early years have a| number of children who struggle be at school. early years have a - number of children who struggle with basic communication, stringing a sentence together, please can i go the toilet, can i have a drink, sentences we had to teach the children. ., ., ., ~ , sentences we had to teach the children. ., ., ., , , ., children. london and academy is a small primary children. london and academy is a small primary school children. london and academy is a small primary school in children. london and academy is a small primary school in a - children. london and academy is a j small primary school in a relatively deprived area of telford, almost half the pupils are on free school meals. the lack of skills means the school has to teach a basic form of sign language. we school has to teach a basic form of sign language- school has to teach a basic form of sin lanuae. ~ ., ., sign language. we have intimate care lans for a sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of our sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of our children, i plans for a number of our children, we change the children, we also try to teach them to go to the toilet as well so we try to do some of that potty training but we still have children are nappies in our early years environment. lafit children are nappies in our early years environment. last september of the 27 children years environment. last september of the 27 children who years environment. last september of the 27 children who joined years environment. last september of the 27 children who joined the - the 27 children who joined the reception class, eight were a nappies. louise says her son was not potty trained when he started school. he potty trained when he started school. . , . potty trained when he started school. ., , ., ., , school. he was quite late, he was not ready- school. he was quite late, he was not ready- and school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we felt - school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we felt when | school. he was quite late, he was i not ready. and then we felt when he was ready, school helped. they helped with that. had was ready, school helped. they helped with that. was ready, school helped. they helped with that. had you tried to net him helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before - helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before he . helped with that. had you tried to i get him toilet trained before he got to school? ., , , ., to school? there was ust no interest from t to school? there was ust no interest from him to school? there was ust no interest from him at h to school? there wasjust no interest from him at all- to school? there wasjust no interest from him at all to i to school? there wasjust no| interest from him at all to try that. ,., , interest from him at all to try that. , ., ., , that. the parents have nothing but raise for that. the parents have nothing but praise for the that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but a - that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but a chat - praise for the school but a chat reveals why schools increasingly struggle to focus solely on educating children. my oldest dau~hter educating children. my oldest daughter i educating children. my oldest daughter i order educating children. my oldest daughter i order out - educating children. my oldest daughter i order out of - educating children. my oldestj daughter i order out of school educating children. my oldest. daughter i order out of school i educate her. how old is she? 14. she was self harming, bullied due to her mental health, now she is at home she does the work and she is happy. happy- he is work and s the does she my she does the work and she is happy. my wife died when i first started, a lot of my wife died when i first started, a lot of stress and emotional health, that was lot of stress and emotional health, that was affecting the children with the what that was affecting the children with the what was going on. we have had help from the what was going on. we have had help from social services. my wife is back help from social services. my wife is back where she wanted to be. and that was is back where she wanted to be. situc that was through the is back where she wanted to be. fific that was through the school? london academy as part of a 13 school multi academy as part of a 13 school multi academy trust, the head says long standing challenges caused by tight budgets have been exacerbated by covid 19 and cost of living pressure. by covid-19 and cost of living pressure- by covid-19 and cost of living ressure. ., ., ., . pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite often pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite often more - children are quite often more anxious about large social situations because people were out of that for a while and at a quite informative stage in their education and own personal development. i think ultimately, when children are coming to school or hungry, that s having a bigger impact as an ongoing thing, we would have recovered quicker if it hadn t been for those issue. to quicker if it hadn t been for those issue. ., , ., , ., issue. to help families the learning community has issue. to help families the learning community has a issue. to help families the learning community has a food issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank- issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank run - issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank run by| community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself. nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the children nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the children were - visit myself, the children were having weet bix with tap water. she having weet-bix with tap water. she leads the having weet bix with tap water. she leads the team who provide a lot of time providing emotional and psychological support to hundreds of peoples, she wonders what will happen to them once they are older. a lot of support is in place for children through the school system, but when they leave school, that support starts to beat, they will have to pick up for when the children leave school and put the support and so they can be productive and functional members of society. the productive and functional members of socie . . . , productive and functional members of socie . . ., , ., ., society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to help - society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to help many. are nationwide, how to help many children who cannot open school. cope with life. michael buchanan, bbc news, telford. the time is coming up to 19 minutes past six, time to have a look at the papers, the observer leaves of the report is a future labour government would promise to establish 80 new rate courts in england and wales as part of wide ranging plans to tackle violence against women and girls. they say the policy is expected to be unveiled on the party manifesto next week, as we have mentioned, we expect to see the manifestoes unveiled from all parties. the sunday express unveiled from all parties. tie: sunday express reports on a quote 6 year master plan from a reform party leader nigel farage to in his words reshape politics and carry out what the paper calls a hostile takeover of the conservatives. the meal male takeover of the conservatives. the meal male leads with the search for former broadcaster michael mosley, it reports rescuers are focusing on a dangerous cave complex known as the abyss and we willjoin our correspondence live on the ireland later this morning. the mirror focuses ireland later this morning. the mirror focuses on ireland later this morning. tie: mirror focuses on the recovery of the princess of wales following her recent cancer diagnosis, it carries comments made by catherine in a letter to the irish guards when she said she hopes to return to public duties very soon. she apologised for not being there to take the salute at the drooping of the colour. let’s at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside the at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside the pages, at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside the pages, this is in the observer. it talks about how treehouses have gone from the childhood favourite to the height of clamping luxury. when i was younger i was desperate for a treehouse, i thought it was most magical thing. after reading the magic faraway tree by enid blyton i wanted to be up in the trees but i never got one from my parents. 50 the trees but i never got one from my parents- my parents. so you are now living our my parents. so you are now living your treehouse my parents. so you are now living your treehouse streams? - my parents. so you are now living your treehouse streams? now - my parents. so you are now living your treehouse streams? now i i my parents. so you are now living i your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a glamping your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a glamping treehouse, - your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a glamping treehouse, it i to ask for a glamping treehouse, it is notjust a wooden shack put together it looks incredibly fancy now, some have a built in sauna inside which is very impressive, that takes a lot of logistic, the height of engineering.- height of engineering. sturdy branches- height of engineering. sturdy branches. you height of engineering. sturdy branches. you can t - height of engineering. sturdy branches. you can t have - height of engineering. sturdy branches. you can t have any| height of engineering. sturdy - branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. you can t have any flimsy branches- if branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you are branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you are trying - branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you are trying to - branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you are trying to find i branches. if you are trying to find a wa for branches. if you are trying to find a way for such branches. if you are trying to find a way for such a branches. if you are trying to find a way for such a fancy branches. if you are trying to find a way for such a fancy treehouse| branches. if you are trying to find i a way for such a fancy treehouse you might hope for some kind of find like this, a book bought for £1 at a car boot sale is expected to fetch £15,000 at auction because it is a rare first edition of the debut james bond novel. rare first edition of the debut james bond novel. ., , , , , james bond novel. that s impressive was that a car james bond novel. that s impressive was that a car boot james bond novel. that s impressive was that a car boot sale? james bond novel. that s impressive was that a car boot sale? 1953 - james bond novel. that s impressive was that a car boot sale? 1953 copy l was that a car boot sale? 1953 copy of ian fleming s was that a car boot sale? 1953 copy of ian fleming s casino was that a car boot sale? 1953 copy of ian fleming s casino ryall, - was that a car boot sale? 1953 copy of ian fleming s casino ryall, onel of ian fleming s casino ryall, one of ian fleming s casino ryall, one of only 4,700. of ian fleming s casino ryall, one of only 4,700. . . of ian fleming s casino ryall, one of only 4,700. .. some people don t know what of only 4,700. .. some people don t know what they of only 4,700. .. some people don t know what they have, of only 4,700. .. some people don t know what they have, could - of only 4,700. .. some people don t know what they have, could you - know what they have, could you imagine getting rid of that? 0nto what was once a common sight in our countryside and gardens, but now the willow tennessee to be at risk of extinction are the numbers declined by 90% after the past five decades. in response team of conservationists and have hatched a plan to rescue the reclusive species as our correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular visitors - correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular visitors to l birds were once regular visitors to our gardens but not anymore. manchester alone, there are nowjust 120 breeding pairs after suffering a huge decline over the past five decades. we huge decline over the past five decades. ~ ., ., ., ., ., decades. we have got a lot of witness here, decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what on - decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what on the - decades. we have got a lot of| witness here, what on the side decades. we have got a lot of - witness here, what on the side and brought on that side damp, wet woodland is what willow titx like. now volunteers are being asked to rescue them. we now volunteers are being asked to rescue them- now volunteers are being asked to rescue them. we want to survey the -o - ulation rescue them. we want to survey the population once rescue them. we want to survey the population once we rescue them. we want to survey the population once we understand - rescue them. we want to survey the population once we understand thel population once we understand the population once we understand the population we will use the information to design habitat intervention. information to design habitat intervention. a , , intervention. ashley maas has been identified as intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that could - intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that could be l identified as an area that could be restored to help the willow tip population. we restored to help the willow tip population- restored to help the willow tip oulation. ~ ., ., ., ., population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland for population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland for willow- like this in a woodland for willow titx to excavate, this living tree is very hard, a willow tip could not excavate that for its nest.- excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard - excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard to - excavate that for its nest. these | birds are elusive and hard to spot we did not see any today but they do have a distinctive call. thea;r we did not see any today but they do have a distinctive call. have a distinctive call. they are often in places have a distinctive call. they are often in places really have a distinctive call. they are often in places really close - have a distinctive call. they are often in places really close to i often in places really close to people 5 houses like in bolton and trafford, you have them write on the scruffy pockets of the land behind people 5 houses and they are an elusive bird so people don t know where they are. fit! elusive bird so people don t know where they are. elusive bird so people don t know where they are. on the edge of the sark where they are. on the edge of the s - ark we where they are. on the edge of the spark we have where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a woodland - where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a woodland habitat. | spark we have a woodland habitat. volunteers spark we have a woodland habitat. volunteers are working with the wildlife trust with funding they will work with landowners to increase the habitat of the willow tip, benefiting a host of other creatures into the bargain. it’s creatures into the bargain. it s tuite creatures into the bargain. it s quite often creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a habitat overlooked by people or undervalued, it s a bit scruffy looking, it is untidy, a bit wet and boggy, it s a bit unloved. there are a number of factors for the willow tip to climb. quite possibly climate change is playing a part, some of the weather habitats potentially might be drying up in the longer hotter summers. it is a bird that does not move that far and we need to create these pockets of habitats like steppingstones on the way across the landscape so they can move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims to - willow wildlife project aims to boost the willow tip s chance of survival and halts the alarming decline in this once common entry should bed. taste decline in this once common entry should bed- decline in this once common entry should bed. we want to make sure there is always should bed. we want to make sure there is always a should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home for- should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home for the - there is always a home for the willow tip in the west, it is a really iconic species and it needs our help. really iconic species and it needs our hel. , , really iconic species and it needs our hel. , ., , really iconic species and it needs ourhel. , “ , our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovel to our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts - our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts to - our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts to help | lovely to hear the efforts to help support that endangered species. i don t know if you ve seen the don t know if you ve seen the documentary on the rob burrow, that bbc breakfast has done, it is a really emotional watch. it was a boy can and time, a tribute to him, wasn t it? can and time, a tribute to him, wasn t it? , ., . , , wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob burrow i wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob burrow s| wasn t it? yesterday at wembley i since the death of rob burrow s on sunday night of last week, we read a lot of words, we have heard a lot of words and seen the personal connection he had with a lot of people. viewers of this program will know especially the strong bond he built up on those people who had been supporting over the years of his motor neurone disease order struggles, it was something else to see it wordlessly as it turned out for a good minute at wembley, they were overwhelming to see, unanimous support and commemoration for rob burrow at wembley yesterday. it was remarkable, the pictures in addition to everything we have had, the personal, intense relationships described over the last few days, just to have all of those people doing the same thing and as i say. a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct. a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct. a a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct, a poem date wembley as rugby pay tribute to one of its grades, on its perch saint helens women were challenge cup challenges. a game benefiting the memory of the great rob burrow. great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenae great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, a - great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, a momentj great rob burrow. wigan warriors i challenge cup winners, a moment of celebration the combination of a day of raw emotion. 0n the game 5 grandest stage the sport had come together to remember an inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby league cup community gathering to pay their own very personal tributes to the late rob burrows who passed awayjust a few days ago after the battle with motor neurone disease, tributes that would continue throughout the day. he meant everything, everything to me, to the club and the mnd community, just amazing. tithe me, to the club and the mnd community, just amazing. community, ust amazing. one thing that ru:b community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does - community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does is - community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does is look l that rugby league cup does is look after our that rugby league cup does is look after our own and we all come together, after our own and we all come together, no matter what club you are from together, no matter what club you are from everyone can see what he did as are from everyone can see what he did as a are from everyone can see what he did as a player and as a human being afterwards did as a player and as a human being afterwards. he did as a player and as a human being afterwards. . , did as a player and as a human being afterwards. ., , ., , ., ., , ., afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece - afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece final- star. the men s showpiece final warrington star. the men s showpiece final warrington against star. the men s showpiece final warrington against wigan - star. the men s showpiece final- warrington against wigan beginning after a minutes of impeccable silence. we can already raining super league and club champions took the first half lead, bevan french twisting and turning his way. that s their second try captain liam farrell rampaging through to extend the lead and from there warrington would not find a way. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale win for leeds. beaten comprehensively by saint helens for the third year in a row. so glory for saint helen s the third year in a row. so glory for saint helen 5 women and for wigan warriors men on a day when the whole sport of rugby league came together to celebrate one of its own. adam wilde, bbc news, wembley. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title and rugby union is over they won a dramatic new ship final at twickenham, alex mitchell scoring the winning try against bath down to 14 men with 17 minutes left as they claim their second championship and gave a perfect sendoff to the parting courtney law after his 17 years with the club. it parting courtney law after his 17 years with the club. years with the club. it has not really sunk years with the club. it has not really sunk in years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, we - years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, we were i really sunk in yet, we were so focused on this for so long, during the game, it was get the one, however you can. you get there and you are like we have done it! it is fast, can t put into words. i think we deserved it, over the season we have been the best team, sometimes you have to find a way to win. , . . ,, , ., sometimes you have to find a way to win. , . , ., ., win. english cricketers are without a win at the win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will cover- win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will cover after l a win at the t 20 will cover after losing to australian bob artist, putting their chances of getting to the next stage in doubt. travis head made a flying start 70 without loss of five overs, australia reaching to hundred and one seven, 13 sixes in that innings, captainjosh butler top scored with 42 but they lost those wickets at regular intervals and fell well short of the target, losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as the losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as the situation - find ourselves in as the situation we find ourselves in, we have to be confident keeps heads up and look forward to the next one and keep up in the chest out and playing some good cricket which we know we are capable of. good cricket which we know we are ca able of. good cricket which we know we are caable of. ~ .., good cricket which we know we are capable of capable of. south africa are top of the a-rou capable of. south africa are top of the group up capable of. south africa are top of the group up to capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a scare capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a scare against. capable of. south africa are top of| the group up to a scare against the netherlands, chasing 141, 12 four at one stage but there after they managed the run chase well and were beaten from 51 balls from david miller, south africa one x four wickets, after a disappointing start to the british open they won the men s wheelchair doubles title, another serial winner in paris was iga swiatek she is now french open singles winnerfor a iga swiatek she is now french open singles winner for a fourth time, she continued her recent dominance on the clay with a straight sets win againstjasmine paolini obviously, against jasmine paolini obviously, it againstjasmine paolini obviously, it is her third title in a row in paris and herfirst it is her third title in a row in paris and her first grand slam triumph overall. i m paris and her first grand slam triumph over all. paris and her first grand slam triumph over all. i m really proud of m self triumph over all. i m really proud of myself because triumph over all. i m really proud of myself because the triumph over all. i m really proud i of myself because the expectations obviously have been pretty high from the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy i just went for the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went for it the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy i just went for it and the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went for it and i was ready to deal with all of this, and i could win. it is the turn of the men this afternoon. it is the first time that either of the players had reached the final length paris and they are hoping tojoin an the final length paris and they are hoping to join an illustrious list of spaniards to have one in roland garros. i of spaniards to have one in roland garros. ., ., , , ., ., garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who have - garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who have won l list of spanish players who have won the tournament, not only rafa nadal, ferrero, koster, and many have one from the sport and i really want to put my name on the list as well. i think in a grand slam final there are no think in a grand slam final there are no easy matches or opponents. if you are are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in the are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in the final roland garros you are in the final roland garros you deserve to be there and that goes you deserve to be there and that goes for you deserve to be there and that goes for him as well. he played a fantastic goes for him as well. he played a fantastic match and tournament in general fantastic match and tournament in general. i m expecting a very difficult general. i m expecting a very difficult match. general. i m expecting a very difficult match. general. i m expecting a very difficult match. looks like the mercedes difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula 1 difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula 1 team - difficult match. looks like the i mercedes formula 1 team could difficult match. looks like the - mercedes formula 1 team could be challenging for wins again after george russell claimed pole position for the canadian grand prix. he recorded a time of one minute and 12 seconds exactly on his first run qualifying and montreal. max verstappen posted exactly the same time but because george russell did at first, he gets to start from the top spot forjust at first, he gets to start from the top spot for just the second at first, he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. great britain have won their first medals at the world athletics championships in rome. the race was won by marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title, and italy 13 medals but it is the competitors first met all. i but it is the competitors first met all. ., ., ., , all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the positive - all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the positive and i | needed to take the positive and i want very much to be in the olympics are positive things you take from here and go back and look at the video and work on my race. george miller has one video and work on my race. george miller has one silver video and work on my race. george miller has one silver finishing - miller has one silver finishing behind the first place, and he has his sights set on the paris 0lympics next month. i his sights set on the paris olympics next month- his sights set on the paris olympics next month. ., ., ., next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris but next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris but hopefully - the five in paris but hopefully tonight has done my chances of selection no harm but we are still a month out in three weeks until trials and back to training as of tomorrow and we will get stuck in. michael dunlop has secured victory in the super sport and super twins races of the week and it takes the total number of victories to 29, three clear of the previous record, belonging to his late unclejoey. he had it for 24 years in the fourth time he has won four races across the week. whether it is dunlop or mills, a couple of stories about how you can send your sporting progress down the gene pool! absolutely! around 20,000 bikers completed aim mammoth ride in memory of dave myers who died of cancer in february. the procession made its way to his home town of barrow after setting off from the ace cafe in north west london. sharon barber has been following the journey. it isa it is a big night in barrow, a celebration of the life of dave myers. tens of thousands have arrived, many of them hairy bikers. they are riding in all the way up the m6, thousands of people on every bridge, unbelievable. fits the m6, thousands of people on every bridge, unbelievable. bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in throu~h bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns and bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns and villages - in through the towns and villages leading in through the towns and villages leading into barrow, the streets were leading into barrow, the streets were lined and it was amazing! the roar of tens were lined and it was amazing! the roar of tens of were lined and it was amazing! tie: roar of tens of thousands of motorbikes heard across england today, began to arrive late afternoon. the procession at times was 16 miles long, and the route was lined by supporters. leading the cavalcade that left london this morning was dave s best friend and fellow hairy by car. fellow hairy by car. what a remarkable fellow hairy by car. what a remarkable reception! - fellow hairy by car. what a j remarkable reception! just fellow hairy by car. what a - remarkable reception! just mind blowing! all of the bridges all the way from london, people waving and showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! the showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was diagnosed | in february after he was diagnosed with cancer. he was 66. sharon barber, bbc news, cumbria. what a lovely thing to have done. very touching. we will be back with the headlines at seven but now it is time for the travel show. this year, all eyes are on the french region of normandy as it prepares to celebrate the major anniversaries. it may not be as well visited as paris, or as funny as the south of the country but if you come here and explore, you will fall in love with this part of france, it was a place that gave us a king, that change the course of history. it us a king, that change the course of histo . . , us a king, that change the course of histo . ., , , , us a king, that change the course of histo . ,, history. it has inspired the painter who started history. it has inspired the painter who started a history. it has inspired the painter who started a movement - history. it has inspired the painter who started a movement that - history. it has inspired the painter| who started a movement that took history. it has inspired the painter- who started a movement that took the artwork by storm. he painted the light up there. artwork by storm. he painted the light up there- artwork by storm. he painted the light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at the light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at the forefront i the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom. i the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom.- the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous sentinel - for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous sentinel to - for the fight for freedom. i want to i sound an enormous sentinel to those of taken part, it was a team effort. this is the region that has seen it all. and it s stories have all been woven into the tapestry of time. this is so cool! i will release the road until it is slapping. so the flapping starts and then from the flapping, we bring it in. just to stop? look at me! i m a sailor! france and england may be neighbours but in the middle ages, they were bitter rivals, mainly thanks to this man, william, the duke of normandy, who history would come to know better as william the conqueror. in the year 1066, he left the shores to invade england and set it on a new course of history. william was descended from the fears that vikings, or northmen, who gave normandy its name. in 2027, normandy will mark the 1,000th anniversary of william s birth. but the preparations for this big occasion have already begun. la mora was the flagship of william s invasion fleet. and now, a historical society in the port town of honfleur are busy recreating the viking style longship that would have carried william, his most trusted knights, their horses, and 60 oarsmen to the brutal battle of hastings. and there s not a power tool in sight. this is me splitting wood in what would be the norman way of doing it. yeah, and with this technique, you can split any tree. yeah, good. and that is how you split wood norseman style. jean marie is the president of the society and has some big plans for la mora when she s finished. so, it s all about timing. you start now so the boat is finished for the anniversary. oh, wow! we hope, we hope! yeah! we hope that. wow! the team made their plans for the new look la mora by studying the 70 metre long bayeux tapestry. so all of this is the battle of hastings? yes, it s all the battle. here is the famous death of king harold, which marks the end of the battle. where s the eye? where s the arrow in his eye? harold isjust here. you can see it with the arrow in the eye. yeah! the tapestry was completed in the decade following the battle of hastings. martin is a historian at the bayeux museum, whose job it is to study and interpret this priceless a rtefa ct. and on the next scene, you can see that william is taking off his helmet to being recognised by the helmet to show that he is alive and the battle have to continue to the victor. the story starts with the dying king of england, edward the confessor, promising the throne to william. he sends the message to william in france via a trusted nobleman called harold godwinson. but when edward dies, harold is offered the crown by the governing council of england and takes it for himself, ensuing william s rage. how factual is it? how factual? it s a representation, you know, of the events of the year 1064 1066. so, it s a story written by the victors, you know, and there is a lot, of course, of what we can call inaccuracy, and so mistake or choice to show some.only a point of view of the history. yeah. it s like. we can call it propaganda, you know? now over 900 years old, the bayeux tapestry has survived major events like the french revolution and even acted as a potential crib sheet for those looking to invade england as recently as world war ii. then it was confiscated by the germans. so it did end up in german hands? it did end up in german hands here in bayeux for they study it, and also to know how to invade england, of course. really?! yes, of course. so germany were taking tips from william the conqueror s story? dives sur mer is the town william left from to invade england. though i must admit, it s hard to imagine a full blown invasion force gathered here today. wow, look at this place! where are all the knights in their suits of armour? i m meeting francois, an archaeologist who, like many other normans, is in love with his history. wow! hello, steve. francois, bonjour! salut. nice to meet you. but what is it that separates normandy from other regions in france? what s so special here? there is so much history here. in dives sur mer, the past isn t just consigned to books and museums, it s part of everyday life. even the weekly market takes place in a hall that dates back to the 13005. this all looks so nice. yes. what have we got here? that doesn t look french. yeah? when i think french food, i think cheese, bread not this. yeah? oh, really? i d love to, please! thank you. when the baker finished with his oven, the villagers would make this? 0ui. 0h, amazing. that s nice, eh? that s nice. look, all of these names, the people it s bizarre. you thinkjust william the conqueror. notjust soldiers archers, stable boys. 0ui. there s lots of people involved. the names featured on the wall are william s top brass the ones who helped him rule england, and that would later become the cornerstone for the country s aristocracy. william the conqueror a national hero? was he a tyrant, a kind king? what kind of person.? normandy s countryside is well, let s face it picture perfect. and there s only one way to see it in the passenger seat of a french classic car. ..like the citroen 2cv. french culture has an abundance of style and a certainje ne sais quoi. so it s no surprise france has produced some of the world s finest artists. 2024 is a really important anniversary in the world of art. it s 150 years since the movement of impressionism was founded, giving the world artists like monet. i ve come to the norman village of giverny. it s famed worldwide as being the home of french artist claude monet, who lived here from 1883 all the way up to his death in 1926. the gardeners here do an amazing job. they must go around with one of monet s pictures. it s identical! patricia is a local artist, and with giverny being a major tourist attraction in normandy, she has a sideline running tours around monet s house and gardens. patricia, this place is as pretty as a picture. i think i recognise it. really?! yeah! is it possible? he painted this place more than 250 times. yeah? yeah. so, tell me, why did he paint it so many times? because he made series of the light, yeah? so, you see today we have wonderful reflections, and this is what he loved. so, he created this garden being inspired by the japanese art, because at that time, in europe and all over the world, japan was the new fashion. and monet became a fashion victim. 0h, right! so, that makes sense. we ve got the bamboo, we ve got the very japanese style bridge. yes. impressionism was groundbreaking. the year 1874 was a time of great change in france. claude monet and a group of his friends decided it was time for art to change too. with the opening of new train lines and the invention of paints in tubes, they could leave their studios in paris and capture places like normandy on canvas. when they set up their own radical exhibition on their return to the city, a notable critic of the time compared their work to a sketch for a wallpaper pattern a mere unfinished impression which gave this movement its name. but looking around this museum in giverny, it s clear to see who got the last laugh. how does yours already look better than mine? laughing: because i m a painter. - because you re a painter, yeah. so, tell me a little bit about monet s relationship with normandy. normandy became one of his major subjects because he loved the light changes. you know, monet always used to say, here the light changes every seven minutes. and if you look at that today, i think that s true. yeah. claude monet never painted any water lilies. what?! yes! he painted the light on top of the lilies. 0h. you get it? ..my mind is blown! i ve come to that reflection part now, and i don t really know what i m doing. in fact, to paint the reflections, you should do vertical lines. this is what monet made. and look, it s vertical. can you see? no. they both laugh. how is yours so different from mine? i don t understand. because you have a different style. i don t have a different style i can t do it! patricia chuckles. it s starting to rain. i think we should better stop. what do you think? because otherwise, our paintings will be messy. we will never be able to sell them for $1 million. they both laugh. ok? ok. normandy s ever changing weather has put an end to my lesson, but that is my first and possibly last effort at impressionism art. it s no monet, but it s a steve brown. back here on the coast, scars from normandy s more recent history can still be felt today. 0njune 6th, 1944, 80 years ago, the d day landings happened on a stretch of normandy s beaches. the objective of d day was to secure a foothold in nazi occupied europe. it was the largest naval, air and land operation in history. on that fateful summer s day, the allies used over 5,000 ships and landing craft to carry more than 150,000 troops to normandy s beaches codenamed utah, 0maha, gold, juno and sword. 4,414 allied soldiers died on d day itself. in 2021, the british normandy memorial was opened overlooking gold beach. to mark the 80th anniversary of the d day landings, dan and his team of volunteers from the arts group standing with giants will place 1,475 handmade silhouettes at the memorial to mark the number of servicemen who died on d day itself under british command. applause. hey, look at that! give it a wiggle, ed. get your toes on it. so, that s the first one up, then. do they all look the same? no, we ve got 11 different designs, all representing different groups that came over the beaches on that particular day. yeah, you don t want to leave anyone out, do you? well, no. we was told, apparently we ve left out frogmen. oh, no! do you know, my great uncle was a stretcher bearer on d day? 0h, right. you know, it s amazing, isn t it? everyone s got their stories. and did you meet your great uncle? um, no, i didn t, and if i m honest with you, my understanding and the facts that i ve got from family are quite sparse. but, do you know, standing here with you, looking out across the beach that he would have been helping on, i m certainly going to go back and find out more about him. because everyone played their role and the stretcher bearers and the nurses, i mean, they were witnessing horror continuously just continuously. and, you know, it was just so hard for them. and because of that, we ve also designed two nurses. there were two nurses on one of the boats that hit a mine, and they got blown up and killed. so we ve actually brought with us two giant nurses, laser cut in steel, to represent the nurses and the ladies that took part and that worked so hard behind the scenes. i m. i m lost for words. dan chuckles. i m lost for words. cafe gondree was the first french home to be liberated on d day. it s so good to meet you. thank you very much. it s still run by the same family. and i m meeting arlette, who was just four years old in 1944. but what a cafe! i mean, look around. there seems to be so many bits of memorabilia. it seems like everybody wants to share things with you. that s absolutely right. they want to come in because it s a house, a little house from the surface, that has lived history. we were woken up, or half asleep, by a tremendous crashing noise and then different movements around the house. and then suddenly the shutter from our dining room was being forced open and window panes were being broken, and we heard footsteps above our head. we thought the germans had come in to get us, but fortunately. that is. ..fortunately, daddy left us for a short time, walked up the little steps and was faced by soldiers saying to daddy, it s all right, we ve arrived. we re british. so he brought them in the cellar. and naturally, i was very frightened, so i went to hide behind the barrels. but then one of them took some chocolate out of his jacket with some biscuits, and so i came forward. mummy started kissing them. and then after that, daddy said, it s all for you, this house, and opened the door. and by then, casualties were brought in. i want to say an enormous thank you. ..to all those who have taken part. it was a team effort. here, it s the british, but within the british army there were other nationalities that were trained together. and this is to be commemorated for the 80th anniversary. and i can see you mean that, as well. i can see you mean that from the bottom of your heart. d day didn t end world war ii, but it was the beginning of the end, and there were still dark days ahead, and many more lives would be lost on all sides. the final stop on myjourney through time is the german war graves at la cambe. above the cemetery is a statue of a mother and father. it was placed there to watch over the sons that are buried below. history isn t just about buildings and museum pieces, it s about people. when you come to somewhere like normandy and see the places where it all happened, you start to realise that every name on a stone or in a textbook is a real person, and that offers you a perspective like no other. you thinkjust william the conqueror. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with luxmy gopal and ben boulos. 0ur headlines today: the eu s most senior diplomat has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captives who had been held in gaza since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week, in which parties will set out their manifestos. after new cctv emerges of the tv presenter michael mosley, who vanished on a greek island on wednesday, his wife says she will not lose hope . in sport, england s defence of the t20 world cup is in danger. they re still to win in the tournament after a hefty defeat by australia in barbados in their second game and while it should be a sunny start for sunday for many of you, a lot more cloud and some patchy rain. details here on breakfast. good morning, it s sunday the 9th june. our main story: israel has been criticised by the european union s most senior diplomat over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza. eu foreign policy chief josep borrell called the reports another massacre of civilians . the mission to bring home the captives involved air strikes around a refugee camp. the moment she was made free. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her dad after a dramatic rescue. translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make an effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. by the way, it is my birthday. also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages rescued in a major operation by the israeli military carried out at a refugee camp in central gaza. the military said it was a complex operation based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said were found at two separate locations and were brought out under file. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors struggled to treat all the wounded. many arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. the rescue was considered a success by israeli authorities and could change the calculation of a leader under pressure. hugh bachega, bbc news, tel aviv. 0ur correspondent, jon donnison, is injerusalem. jon, what has the reaction been in israel? i think it has been one of celebration and huge relief, especially for the families of the hostages who were released after being held for some 246 days. i also think it is given a boost to benjamin netanyahu because it allows him to say, look, his strategy is working. he believes the only way to get hostages out, or the best way, is to continue to put military pressure on hamas. contrast that with the mood in gaza, which is one of outrage at the number of civilians killed, many women and children. we have also had the eu s most senior diplomat, josep borrell, calling this another massacre and saying the bloodbath has to end immediately. the israeli mind ministerfired back immediately. the israeli mind minister fired back and said to josep borrell, shame on you, instead of condemning hamas, for holding hostages in civilian areas, he was attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. . ~ attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. ., ,, ., attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. ., ., ., campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the general election, with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. 0ur political correspondent, iain watson, has this report. the prime minister is in the market for votes. the main westminster parties will launch manifestoes in the week ahead. rishi sunak will be hoping it moves the focus onto policy, not personality. he will be keen to move on from his d day apology and so will his party, and his candidates have been out campaigning this weekend and we have been speaking to some this weekend. some of spoken about anger and disappointment and one of them said whatever will happen next? will rishi sunak s trousers fall down? others say voters have not raised the issue at all. 0ne candidate said they were so vexed by it, they have already defected to labour or the reform party. the prime minister will be hoping to keep his job afterjuly 4, and he wants to get more people into work, promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservatives claim they can save £12 billion from the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour says existing jails are bursting at the seams and the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places promised. if elected, the party says it would deliver that prison building programme and change the planning laws to make it a priority and give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign, saying they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care centers and providing more than 1,000 more beds. response time information will also be made readily available. today we get a sneak preview of the manifestoes but it is not until the full range of policies are published that we will know how well they connect with voters. we are nowjoined by our political correspondent, jessica parker. jessica, it s going to be a busy week for all of the parties, isn t it? absolutely! what we have had so far in the campaign is we have been essentially drip fed policy ideas and announcements and a couple of tv debates but it can feel like there is a lot of noise, charter, a bit hard to keep up with, but as we start to get those manifestoes over the coming weeks from the main parties, that will change a little bit because what a manifesto is as many will know, is a political party s programme for government, a blueprint for what it would do if that party was in power. i think what will be particularly interesting as well is that while we are not necessarily expecting major surprises from at least the two main parties, although of course you never know, i have not been the manifestoes yet, although there have been plenty of leaks and a announcements made, and a lot of discussion about how will parties pay for pledges? a lot of scrutiny and back and forth between labour and back and forth between labour and the conservatives and costings should be in the manifesto, so that will be very crucial. it will move the campaign onto the next phase after the first few weeks we ve had so far. . ~ ,, ~ after the first few weeks we ve had so far. ., ,, i. . , so far. thank you. we will be discussing so far. thank you. we will be discussing this so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later- so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later in - so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later in with i discussing this later in with political pundits. the search for the tv presenter michael mosley will resume on the greek island of symi after he went missing while out on a walk on wednesday. 0ur correspondent, joe inwood, is in symi. joe, what will the search teams be focusing on this morning? it seems they will be looking at roughly the same area as they were yesterday. this is a big, rocky outcrop going north from the main village, the last known sighting of michael mosley, we saw new cctv shortage showing him walking at two o clock purposefully towards the hills. the suggestion is he did not take the most direct route, the town where i m staying now, symi, but instead around the mountain and over the top and all the way back that way. if he had decided to do that, that with a very long walk in incredible heat and my legs are burning from standing in the sun too long! it is really hot and it s only nine o clock in the morning! at 130 in the afternoon it is seriously hot! that is why they are trying to find him quickly but as the days go on it is becoming a more consenting situation. , ., ., , situation. and his wife, claire has said they would situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not lose - situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not lose hope? i said they would not lose hope? absolutely. she put out a statement yesterday describing the time since michael had left is the most difficult period. also thanking authorities but it is keeping that core message that they will not lose hope and authorities have said they will continue to search and look for michael mosley until he is found. the longer it goes on, the more they hope will dwindle, i m sorry to say. it s another thing we have lent this morning is the search and rescue squad on the hillside has been sent to athens, which could be a sign they are winding down but it has been reported that it is so hot that the dog has been burning its paws on the dog has been burning its paws on the hillside that they cannot search because of the heat. so that is a development we have had in the last hour or. it development we have had in the last hour or. ., , hour or. it does highlight temperatures hour or. it does highlight temperatures there. - hour or. it does highlight i temperatures there. thank hour or. it does highlight - temperatures there. thank you. hour or. it does highlight temperatures there. thank you. we will return to symi to keep you updated throughout the morning. south korea says it will resume propaganda broadcasts against north korea for the first time in six years. seoul s national security council said its decision to install loudspeakers and begin broadcasts was in response to pyongyang s campaign of sending balloons carrying rubbish across the border. the council added that any attempt at causing distress to the people of south korea was unacceptable. narendra modi is set to be sworn in as prime minister of india for his third term today. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he heads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old girl is among four people who were injured after a fun fair ride malfunctioned in lambeth in south london. 0ur reporter helena wilkinson is at the lambeth country show where it happened. helena, what more do we know? it was a serious incident is what lambeth council are saying. let me step out of the shot and show you the fairground where the incident took place just before 630 yesterday afternoon. we do not know which rider was where the four people were injured but as you mention, the council confirming that a malfunction happened on one of the fairground rides. there was a huge emergency response, the air ambulance, four ambulance crews and paramedics came treat the four injured, an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their 405, and another man in his 505. they were taken from here to major trauma centres. it is not confirmed what injuries they have. we are trying to find that out. we do know their conditions are not life threatening. the council say a thorough investigation will take place to work out exactly how that fairground ride malfunctioned. thank you. people in countries including france, germany and spain go to the polls in the european elections today. it s the final and main day of voting for the eu s 27 members with the first results expected tonight. damien mcguinness is in berlin. damien, what impact could this vote have across europe? could the results signal a shift to the far right? could the results signal a shift to the far right? yeah, the big story this ear the far right? yeah, the big story this year does the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be - the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be a - the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be a shift| the far right? yeah, the big story i this year does seem to be a shift to the right and in some cases indeed the right and in some cases indeed the far right. what we are thing across europe in many countries is a rise in popularity of either the hard populist right or extreme right. in germany it is slightly different because the far right party had been hit by a number of scandals that they may not do as well as others, but in countries like france, italy, the populist right is surging, meaning the european parliament will have a bigger chunk of eurosceptic meps there, having a big impact on eu policy because the eu does a lot of transborder issues and anything to do with migration, to do with climate change, a lot of stuff to do with supporting ukraine, is all decided by the eu, and all those laws have to be passed by the european parliament. so if you have one fifth or 20% of that parliament made up of eurosceptic and in some cases far right meps, that will have a big impact on whether those issues move forward or get blocked. i think that s what we will see and that s why people all over europe and indeed outside of europe or look at these elections and see whether the eu can make decisions when it comes forth a climate change migration and what those decisions may look like. in berlin, the polling stations have openedin in berlin, the polling stations have opened in the first few voters have walked in and the other big question is what will turn out be like? last time five years ago, it was relatively high but this time it could be even higher, and that is connected to the idea that the far right is doing well because that is also mobilising a lot of people in the centre and left to say they do not want to hand the european parliament over to the far right. lots to look out for today as the results start coming out tonight. thank you for the update. some poor ignorant moments in the coverage of the d day 80th anniversary of the past week especially on breakfast, here is one that may have escaped your attention. a world war two veteran has married his bride on the 80th anniversary of d day near the beaches of normandy in france. harold terens, a 100 year old us army air force veteran from florida, tied the knot with 96 year old jeanne swerlin at a ceremony in carentan les marais, in northwestern france. originally from new york, harold visited france as an air force corporal shortly after d day, when he was just 20 years old. to top off the extraordinary day, the newly wedded couple then attended the state banquet in paris thrown by president macron for us leaderjoe biden. here is what the happy couple had to say. i m 100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be married, it s my second, normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i got butterflies, just like the young people! it is notjust the young people, love, you know! we get butterflies we also get a little bit of action! i love them. that is so brilliant, that still puts a smile on my face however many times i see that. look at that stunning however many times i see that. look at that stunning blue however many times i see that. look at that stunning blue sky over saint pauls cathedral. tia at that stunning blue sky over saint pauls cathedral. pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of london, - pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of london, blue i pauls cathedral. no cloud action - above the city of london, blue skies and a lovely start to sunday across many central and areas, its go further north to northern england, this is just outside further north to northern england, this isjust outside bradford. shower clouds, lots of clouds streaming its way in, many will take a step into the cloud as we go through the day even if you start with some sunshine, cloud has been streaming from the north atlantic overnight, here it comes, to the north cool conditions, blustery and a few showers to the south, clear skies, through northern island and parts of southern scotland north west england and wales the cloud is thickest, central and southern ranges start with sunshine but cloud over, parts of devon, cornwall and dorset and south wales will stay sunny, to the north a mixture of sunshine and showers. let s look at that area of the cloudiest weather, across parts of island and northwest england and wales in the west of northern island, rain more persistent into the afternoon. temperature still well down on where you want at this stage injune, 10, 11 degrees for some in northern scotland, 18 or 19 for the south, this evening and overnight the rain will clear away from northern island and spread across england and wales giving some gardens a welcome soaking after a few dry days, the rain linger across eastern areas into tomorrow morning but clear skies for scotland and northern ireland, temperatures well down into low figures in rural areas, there are northerly winds from scandinavia this weather system will move eastwards overnight giving a wet and windy start across parts of lincolnshire, yorkshire, east midlands, east anglia on monday morning, rain lingering across eastern counties but away from that brighter weather around, a mixture of sunshine and showers, more cloud than sunshine in northern scotland, where ever you are a northern northerly wind and feeling chillier and cloudy moments, temperatures down on what we had this weekend, cool into tuesday, the northerly breeze brings a tear from the arctic in fact, you won t feel like that in the sunshine, still quite present out of the breeze and the sunshine. is the cloud builds up during the day it will feel cooler and we will see shells developed, central and eastern areas prone to showers on wednesday and eastern and western areas could stay dry, temperatures 10 - 17 areas could stay dry, temperatures 10 17 degrees, well down on where you want for the stage of the summer. as we grow through the rest of the week, it will stay on the cooler side of things, one of those weeks that won t be a washout, there will be dry and bright weather but a view showers around the forecast stop not feeling like june. view showers around the forecast stop not feeling likejune. taste view showers around the forecast stop not feeling like june. we will seak to stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time - stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time now - stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time now for l stop not feeling like june. we will. speak to you later. time now for 27 minutes past 7 a blue badge past 7 can be a lifeline for people with disabilities or health conditions, helping them to park closer to their destination but the number of badge thefts in london has more than quadrupled in the last decade. last year, more than 6,000 were stolen in the capital alone. some blue badge holders are being forces to take extra precautions to keep theirs safe, as paul hawkins reports. another blue badge stolen in the capital. 6415 last year up 400% over nine years according to figures from the metropolitan police. here is the car, you come down and find it and you go oh no! the badge is gone. michael has had his badge taken four times is now paired locking it to his steering wheel. times is now paired locking it to his steering wheel. what i had to do to sto it his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, is. - his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, is. get- to stop it being stolen, is. get one of these, you have to put it inside the metal holder. then you have a piece of pvc over the top. it fits so you can be seen, then, you put that through and then you block it to your steering wheel. since having this it has not been taken yet. you will see on the street there are two other blue badge over there are two other blue badge over the road that have got padlocks on. the blue badge is part of being liberated, if i come down and find my car has been robbed of my blue badge and i m suddenly much more restricted and that is really what a blue badge is for, to open my welder will stop what would be your message for the people selling them? fitpplr; for the people selling them? apply for the people selling them? apply for one that for the people selling them? apply for one that is for the people selling them? apply for one that is in for the people selling them? apply for one that is in date for the people selling them? apply for one that is in date which - for the people selling them? apply for one that is in date which is what for one that is in date which is what they for one that is in date which is what they are going for? then surely that s what they are going for? then surely that s a what they are going for? then surely that s a lot what they are going for? then surely that s a lot of parking, you would have that s a lot of parking, you would have to that s a lot of parking, you would have to park a lot. we that s a lot of parking, you would have to park a lot. have to park a lot. we asked the olice for have to park a lot. we asked the police for an have to park a lot. we asked the police for an interview have to park a lot. we asked the police for an interview but - have to park a lot. we asked the | police for an interview but no-one police for an interview but no one was available but they sent us a link to one of their webpages called prevent theft from a vehicle. there are 11 steps number set is take it with you or hide it, if it is valuable hide it from view or take it with you. how useful is that for you? it with you. how useful is that for ou? ., , ., it with you. how useful is that for ou? ., ,, , it with you. how useful is that for ou? ., j ,, you? not, you can t keep your blue badue out you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of sight you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of sight because - you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of sight because it - you? not, you can t keep your blue| badge out of sight because it allows you to park. that s ridiculous. what you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your advice? you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your advice? one - you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your advice? one of - you to park. that s ridiculous. what| would be your advice? one of these adlock would be your advice? one of these padlock systems would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems to - would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems to be - would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems to be the i would be your advice? one of these i padlock systems seems to be the only way forward. the only thing is we need to have a redesign of the blue badge system, my photograph and designs are on the back of the blue badge which means everybody, the public, traffic wardens and fleas can t see if it is meant to be used by me, stealing people 5 blue badges is one of the things as we know is getting and more prevalent, it is disabling people more. pauli it is disabling people more. paul hawkins, bbc it is disabling people more. paul hawkins, bbc news. we are joined now by paul slowey, who is the founder of blue badge fraud investigations a community interest company who work with local authorities investigating badge fraud. good morning to you, thank you for joining us. itjust sounds absolutely disgusting behaviour. why has there been an increase in this, why are people taking such drastic action to get hold of the badge? thanks getting a stolen badge enables the criminal to a park for free, there is very little detection, i am quite shocked at the police advised to see you book disabled people to do something to prevent the crime rather than the police investigate the crime or solve the crime or prosecute people. the serial numbers on the front of the badge and there is a national database of badges and it is easy to put on the serial number into that database and detect it is stolen, and we seized a badge north of leicester square yesterday that was stolen, and speaking to the driver, he said he bought it on the street, and leicester square yesterday. we were talking among ourselves about this earlier this morning. if the cars can be registered to a database for the tax does, could there not be a similar system where car numberplates could be registered on a central database and parking enforcement could check that and removes the need to have a badge on display. the removes the need to have a badge on disla . , , , ., removes the need to have a badge on disla. , ,, ., ., display. the badge is issued to an individual not display. the badge is issued to an individual not a display. the badge is issued to an individual not a vehicle, display. the badge is issued to an individual not a vehicle, mick- display. the badge is issued to an i individual not a vehicle, mick might go in a different car, go out with his friends, lots of disabled people don t have a car, they are driven around by friends or family. don t have a car, they are driven around by friends orfamily. and family will use different cars. the badges are issued to an individual not to a vehicle. however, there is a national database with all the badges on it, and it has the six and a half thousand badges stolen last years and the serial numbers that database, it is a simple task of checking the badge against the database and if it comes up stolen the badge can be seized, the car can be seized. some authorities are brilliant at this and doing a great job. the majority are doing nothing stopping the police are doing nothing. there were two cars parked outside a police station with stolen badges and police walking past them all day. badges and police walking past them all da . ~ ., ., badges and police walking past them allda .~ ., ., badges and police walking past them allda . ~ ., ., ~ all day. what do you think the solution is, all day. what do you think the solution is, how all day. what do you think the solution is, how can all day. what do you think the solution is, how can it - all day. what do you think the solution is, how can it be - all day. what do you think the - solution is, how can it be stopped? it needs to be enforced, if you enforce the law people will lose the appetite to use a stolen badge, there is a real risk of people being prosecuted for fraud which is the fence they will stop seeing them. the courts have got powers to ban people from driving, power to seize vehicles, and in some authorities they are doing that, in some authorities they are prosecuting two or 300 people a year, and others they are doing nothing. people need to raise this with the councils, with mp5 and say, what is my counsel doing? fits with mps and say, what is my counsel doinu ? , , ., with mps and say, what is my counsel doint? a with mps and say, what is my counsel doint? ., , with mps and say, what is my counsel doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime rather- doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime rather than| be on stopping the crime rather than expect thing blue badge holders to prevent and themselves, we saw in the piece by paul some of the strange advice such as take the badge with you which obviously doesn t make sense because it has to be on display. what other advice do you have for blue badge holders to try to minimise the risk? the you have for blue badge holders to try to minimise the risk? try to minimise the risk? the first thin is try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock the - try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock the badge l try to minimise the risk? the first. thing is mick said lock the badge to your steering wheel, don t display it overnight because a lot of their happens overnight. the emphasis should not be on disabled people to change their behaviour the emphasis should be on police and local authorities to enforce the scheme and eradicate the use of stolen badges. that will solve the problem. i will give a quick example. when i was younger, they did not have barriers to travel on trains, they did not have inspectors on the whole. a lot of people used to travel on the trains for free. they introduced barriers and inspectors, they started to enforce the scheme by giving out fines and compliance went up. we can increase compliance with the blue badge scheme, notjust stolen badges but the misuse of badges if the scheme is enforced, in some places it is not being enforced and it has been around for over 50 years, some councils have never enforced the scheme which is a shocking. it needs to be enforced. thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us. paul slowly found blue badge investigations. andrew malkinson had been branded a monster after being convicted for the rape of a woman in 2003. but police had got the wrong man. after serving nearly two decades in prison for a crime he didn t commit, mr malkinson was released last year. speaking on a bbc documentary, he says he is still haunted by the ordeal, as our correspondent lindsey smith reports. 0rdinary people should be aware that they could be taken, it could happen to anyone. fish they could be taken, it could happen to an one. ., ., , ., ., to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who suffered to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who suffered an - extraordinary miscarriage of justice. extraordinary miscarriage of ustice. , ., ,. , ., justice. these are describing a rape is especially justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. in justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. in 2004 - is especially vicious. in 2004 andrew malkinson is especially vicious. in 2004 andrew malkinson was - is especially vicious. in 2004 - andrew malkinson was convicted of the rape of a mother in selford. when i said when he said i am taking you down i said i am completely innocent. so everyone could hear it, i was frightened. how will i survive in here for any length of time? will i survive in here for any lenath of time? , ., , ., length of time? the news devastating his famil in length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much - length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much as - length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much as i i his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say this, his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say this, i his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say this, i did - his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say this, i did not - don t want to say this, i did not want don t want to say this, i did not want anything to do with him which affected want anything to do with him which affected me. because it was like how can he affected me. because it was like how can he be affected me. because it was like how can he be like that to a woman? others can he be like that to a woman? others always believed his innocence. i others always believed his innocence. others always believed his innocence. ., ,, .«r ., ., innocence. i don t speak about it to eole innocence. i don t speak about it to people because innocence. i don t speak about it to people because the innocence. i don t speak about it to people because the reaction - innocence. i don t speak about it to people because the reaction is i people because the reaction is you will believe them because you are his mother. the you will believe them because you are his mother. are his mother. the documentary reveals how are his mother. the documentary reveals how four are his mother. the documentary reveals how four years are his mother. the documentary reveals how four years into - are his mother. the documentary reveals how four years into his i are his mother. the documentary| reveals how four years into his life sentence, another man s dna was found on the victim sjumbo. but he was refused an appeal. he served 17 years injail. 0n release he worked to get his conviction overturned. mr to get his conviction overturned. ii malcolm s and having waited so many malcolm s and having waited so many years you leave the court a free man of. no longer subject to the conditions. i of. no longer sub ect to the conditions. of. no longer sub ect to the conditions. ., ., ., ., ., conditions. i am not a liar. i am not in denial. conditions. i am not a liar. i am not in denial. when conditions. i am not a liar. i am not in denial. when he - conditions. i am not a liar. i am not in denial. when he came i conditions. i am not a liar. i am i not in denial. when he came back conditions. i am not a liar. i am - not in denial. when he came back to grimsb i not in denial. when he came back to grimsby i did not in denial. when he came back to grimsby i did say not in denial. when he came back to grimsby i did say to not in denial. when he came back to grimsby i did say to him not in denial. when he came back to grimsby i did say to him i m - not in denial. when he came back to grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i i grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i never grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i nevercame grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i never came to grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i never came to visit grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i never came to visit you grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i never came to visit you in - grimsby i did say to him i m sorry i never came to visit you in prison. i never came to visit you in prison. i m never came to visit you in prison. i m so never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back in- never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back in my- never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back in my life. | never came to visit you in prison. | i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasiust so i m so pleased is back in my life. i was just so emotional. i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust so emotional. he - i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust so emotional. he is i i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust so emotional. he is free. | wasjust so emotional. he is free. greater wasjust so emotional. he is free. greater manchester wasjust so emotional. he is free. greater manchester police - wasjust so emotional. he is free. i greater manchester police apologised for the failings of their investigation, as yet nobody has been charged for the 2003 rape and attempted murder. lindsey smith, bbc news. you can hear more of andrew malkinson s story. on the wrong man: 17 years behind bars, which is available to watch now on bbc iplayer. sunday with laura kuenssberg is on bbc one at nine o clock this morning. let s find out what she has in store. good morning. it is busy and week three of this frantic election campaign and the pace is getting quicker and quicker and quicker. this morning will be asking how the tories can come back from the prime minister s disastrous blunder over leaving d day early, the tories have been rattled by that and panicking to losing votes of reform uk, and nigel farage shall be with us live this morning along with politicians from the tory party, labour and the s&p and a cracking panel as well! look forward to seeing you at nine o clock. more than 80 nautre conservation groups have come together to launch a legal bid to force the next government to do more in tackling the decline of wildlife in england. organisations including the national trust and the rspb are also calling for politicians from all parties to pledge to do more to boost bio diversity. 0ur rural affairs correspondent, malcolm prior, reports. water fails, waterfails, one of water fails, one of the waterfails, one of the most endangered species in the uk, but entering a comeback in this nature reserve in the cotswolds, a welcome success story when uk wildlife is in decline. it takes hard graft to bring nature back to life. it is hoped networks of small sites like these will kickstart a wider wildlife resurgence across the countryside. wildlife resurgence across the countryside- wildlife resurgence across the count side. ., , , countryside. the idea is then these areas can then countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand into - countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand into the i countryside. the idea is then these i areas can then expand into the wider countryside because we know that you re trying to manage a small nature reserve does not work. managing one reserve cannot work, we cannot do it on our own, we are small and charities and we need more political thinking, people higher up making the decisions to really improve nature. but making the decisions to really improve nature. improve nature. but to the volunteers improve nature. but to the volunteers believe - improve nature. but to the i volunteers believe politicians improve nature. but to the - volunteers believe politicians share their passion to protect nature? the state of their passion to protect nature? tie: state of nature report last year says nature is still in decline and it needs to be something they are acting on immediately. we it needs to be something they are acting on immediately. acting on immediately. we need commitment acting on immediately. we need commitment from acting on immediately. we need commitment from whatever i acting on immediately. we need - commitment from whatever government takes us commitment from whatever government takes us to commitment from whatever government takes us to the future to improve wildlife, takes us to the future to improve wildlife, to takes us to the future to improve wildlife, to improve peoples access to green wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces. you wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces- wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without also - to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without also looking | climate change without also looking after the climate change without also looking after the wildlife. climate change without also looking after the wildlife. but climate change without also looking after the wildlife. after the wildlife. but this is about more after the wildlife. but this is about more than after the wildlife. but this is about more than election i after the wildlife. but this is i about more than election prattle pledges and promises. there are already legally binding targets in place to protect more sites like this and to stop the decline of wildlife by 2030 but there s also concerns that we are far from achieving that. a coalition of more than 80 wildlife conservation and countryside groups are now launching a legal bid to force whoever is in power next month to step up efforts to fight nature decline in england. there has been a long time decline of wildlife we see no sign that the policy in place right now will be able to halt and reverse the decline so we need whoever formed the next government to step up and make the investment, the legal changes and take the action necessary to start to turn things around. the department to turn things around. the department for to turn things around. the department for environment, food and rural affairs would not comment on any future legal action that current policy did not need to be reviewed until the end of january 2028. this is a uk wide issue, all four of the nation s administrations are committed to protecting 30% of lancia nature by that 2030 but three of the uk s biggest conservation groups, the national trust, the rspb, and the wildlife trust have joined forces to column politicians to more. irate joined forces to column politicians to more. ~ ., ., , ., to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such an - to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such an extent| the nature crisis in such an extent that none of another political parties are taking the challenge seriously so why here to ask them to think about that and show us their response. irate think about that and show us their resonse. ~ .,. ., response. we need action within the first ear response. we need action within the first year of response. we need action within the first year of the response. we need action within the first year of the next response. we need action within the first year of the next government, i first year of the next government, nieaning first year of the next government, meaning they need detailed plans of how they meaning they need detailed plans of how they will turn things around, restore how they will turn things around, restore the abundance of nature, get it working restore the abundance of nature, get it working again. this restore the abundance of nature, get it working again- it working again. this coalition of rou -s is it working again. this coalition of groups is calling it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on their- it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on their 8 i it working again. this coalition of| groups is calling on their 8 million plus members deport election candidates on the spot over nature decline. ., , u, candidates on the spot over nature decline. .,, u, , . candidates on the spot over nature decline. .,, , ., candidates on the spot over nature decline. , ., decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, people - decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, people should l decline. people can play a part in. this. absolutely, people should be asking candidates turning up on their doorstep and telling them what they want to see for this nature restoration programme. the conservatives restoration programme. the conservatives have - restoration programme. the conservatives have said they have clear policies to protect 30% of land by 2030, while labour launched a new countryside protection plan that it says will create new species rich habitats. the lib dems say they would double the amount of land would double the amount of [and protected for nature by 2050. like primary says more public investment is needed to support nature recovery while the s&p is also committed to halting biodiversity loss by 2030. no detail budgeting has been produced by any plans to protect uk wildlife. election promises are one thing but it is on the ground where the real work begins. malcolm prior, bbc news. election and the environment one of the key issues in this election. in the key issues in this election. in the meantime, here is some sport. and a focus on cricket? the meantime, here is some sport. and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the t-20 - and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the t-20 cup. l in a bit of trouble in the t 20 cup. they were beaten heavily by australia last night, meaning england has started one draw, and high and they are running out of games, they have to be tomane and namibia heavily and hope australia beat another, scotland, namibia heavily and hope australia beatanother, scotland, in namibia heavily and hope australia beat another, scotland, in the same way to make sure they have a chance of getting through to the same stage. scotland are now in a position where they could stop england progressing. == position where they could stop england progressing. england s start of two matches no wins has put their chances of making the next stage in doubt. put into bat in barbados, david warner and travis head made a flying start 70 without loss in the 5th over australia reaching 201 7 from their 20 overs. in reply, england started strongly, captainjos buttler top scoring with 42 but they lost wickets at regular intervals and they ultimately fell well short of their target, losing by 36 runs. the situation we find ourselves in is the situation we find ourselves in. we have to be confident. keep our heads up and look forward to the next one and keep popping our chest out and play some really good cricket, which we know we are capable of. south africa remain top of their group after surviving a scare against the netherlands. chasing 104 to win, they were 12 for [i at one stage. but they managed the run chase well. an unbeaten 59 off 51 balls from david miller saw south africa win by four wickets. while, overnight, uganda were bowled out forjust 39 in their defeat to west indies. nearly a week on from the death of a rugby league legend, the sport had what is traditionally its biggest day of the season and the challenge cup finals at wembley provided a poignant backdrop to the commemorations of rob burrow. tributes were followed by the trophies for wigan s men and st helens women, as adam wild reports. a game and a chief befitting the memory of the great rob burrow. wigan warriors rugby league challenge cup winners, a moment of celebration and the culmination of a day of raw emotion. 0n the game s rangers stage, the sport had come together to remember an inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby league inspirational champion. fans from | across the rugby league community gathering to pay their very own personal tribute to the late rob burrow, who passed awayjust a few days ago after his battle with motor neuron disease, tribute that will continue throughout the day. he meant everything, everything to me, the club, meant everything, everything to me, the club, the mnd community, amazing the club, the mnd community, amazinu. ,, ., the club, the mnd community, amazinu. ., ., , amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its 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silence, and it was weekend already raining super league and while club champions who took the first half lead, bevan french twisting and turning his way over. turning his way over. french, dazzling! turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, their - turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, their second l turning his way over. french, i dazzling! that, their second try, the captain rampaging through to extend the captain rampaging through to extend the lead and from there, warrington would not find a way back warrington would not find a way back. wigan warriors, wembley winners back. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. back. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale windfall- winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale windfall leads. i winners once again. earlier, there! was no fairytale windfall leads. was no fairytale windfall leads. leads, beaten comprehensively by st helen s for the third year in a row. gorry for st helen s women and for wigan warriors men on a day when the whole sport of rugby league came together to celebrate one of its own. adam wild, bbc news, wembley. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title is over after the saints won a dramatic premiership final at twickenham. alex mitchell scored the winning try against bath, who were down to 11! men, with just seven minutes left as northampton claimed their second championship and a perfect send off for the departing courtenay lawes after 17 years with the club. not really sunk in yet because we have been so focused on this for so long, and during the game, and i just wanted the win, however you can. then you get there and you re like oh! have we done it? do you know what i mean? cannot put it into words. i think we deserved it. over the season we have been the best team and sometimes you have to find a way to win. team and sometimes you have to find a way to win- a way to win. apparently the goggles are because a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of the a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of the champagne i a way to win. apparently the goggles| are because of the champagne spray! after a disappointing start to the french open for british singles players the tournament ended on a high with alfie hewett and gordon reid winning the men s wheelchair doubles title for a fifth successive year. another serial winner is iga swiatek. atjust 23 years of age she s a french open singles winner for the fourth time. she continued her recent dominance on the roland garros clay with a straight sets win against first time major finalist jasmine paolini of italy. it was swiatek s third title in a row in paris and a fifth grand slam triumph overall. it s the turn of the men this afternoon, with carlos alcaraz taking on germany s alexander zverev. it s the first time either man has reached the final in paris. zverev is searching for his first grand slam title whilst alcaraz is going for his third and hoping tojoin an illustrious list of spaniards to have won the title at roland garros. i wanted to put my name on that list of the spanish players who have won this tournament, not only rafa nadal, ferrero, moya, cluster, a lot of the spanish players and players from all of the players on the spot he won the tournament and i really want to put my name on the list as well costa. there are no easy matches and if yodre there are no easy matches and if yodre in there are no easy matches and if you re in the final at roland garros, you re in the final at roland garros, you deserve to be there and that went garros, you deserve to be there and that went for him as well. he played a fantastic that went for him as well. he played a fantastic match and tournament in general a fantastic match and tournament in general and a fantastic match and tournament in generaland i m a fantastic match and tournament in general and i m expecting a very difficult general and i m expecting a very difficult match. it s the final few days of pre euros friendies and spain appear to be in good form although it was northern ireland that bore the brunt of it. not immediately though, sunderland defender daniel ballard gave northern ireland a shock lead just 67 seconds after kick off in majorca. but things soon turned as they conceded four goals in the first half and eventually lost 5 1. northern ireland should have an easier game against andorra on tuesday. spain face a far sterner test in their opening match of the euros against croatia on saturday. great britain have won their first medals at the european athletics championships in rome with romell glave taking bronze in the 100 metres. the race was won by olympic champion marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title on a golden night for hosts italy in rome, who won three medals. it s glaves first senior championship medal. it is incredible. i wanted to get the gold but i have to take the positive on top of that. positive things to take from here and just go back and look at the video and work on my weaknesses. george mills won silver in the men s 5000 metres, finishing behind norwegian starjakob ingebrigtsen. mills is the son of former england internationalfootballer danny mills and he s now got his sights set on the paris olympics next month. some want to run the 15 and the five in paris and hopefully tonight has done my chances of selection no harm. we will see. we re three weeks out until trials and straight back to training as of tomorrow and then get stuck in. )and it looks like the mercedes formula one team could be challenging for race wins again after george russell claimed pole for this evening s canadian grand prix. the briton recorded a time of one minute and twelve seconds exactly on his first run in the final session of qualifying in montreal. championship leader max verstappen posted exactly the same time in his red bull but because russell did it first he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. that race is on later. you can listen to it on radio 5 live, coverage starting at 630. time for a check on the weather and it s not feeling particularly summary. what is going on with the temperature? good morning. it feels like spring has kept on giving at the moment! to give you an idea of where we should be in terms of average temperatures, generally around 16 20 degrees across the uk but all parts of the uk below that, even caller on monday and tuesday, even some areas around five degrees lower than we expect. this chilly round of whether will continue and it could fill caller as we start the coming week and it s down to this area of low pressure. it is moving eastwards and drags down air from the north and some complication today is this cloud rolling in on a weather front, outbreaks of rain which are persistent in the west today and that will run into parts of southwest scotland, northern england and patches of rain and drizzle throughout the day. some sunny spells and showers but quite a cool breeze and to the south of it, blue skies overhead for many. more car through the afternoon. sunny throughout the channel islands and parts of the far southwest and temperatures down where we should be and similarto temperatures down where we should be and similar to what they were yesterday. the rain this evening will gradually clear and spread across england and wales overnight and persistent parts of northern england and midlands and east anglia by the morning and clear skies by the end of the night sees the temperatures dropped lois down to three degrees in some valleys. this area of low pressure pushing its way eastwards and opened the floodgates to even more northerly winds. temperatures will drop a little bit more. could be a foggy morning across parts of yorkshire, east midlands, lincolnshire, anglia, and clearing parts of east anglia and away from that sunny spells developing and shower clouds brewing in the afternoon and anyway could see a shower pastor on the northerly breeze. cloudier without later on in the far north of scotland. the northerly wind strengthens further into monday evening. still feeling a little bit like spring. we ll be back with the headlines at eight but now it s time for this week s click. we choose to go to the moon in this decade. not because it is easy because it is hard. decade. not because it is easy because it is hard. one small step for man. because it is hard. one small step for man- one because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant leap because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant leap for i because it is hard. one small step i for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago we laid our last footprint on the moon. as the crew of apollo 17 left the surface they did not know gene simmons would be the last person to walk on another world. we re on our way, houston. but now, in this decade, finally. ..we re going back. mission control: and lift off of artemis 1. nasa s artemis programme will, in the next year or two, return us to our neighbour. part of its mission to land the first woman and the first person of colour on the moon. another part to use what we learn here to send the first astronauts to mars. this is where it all began florida s kennedy space center named after the president who made the original pledge to go to the moon. and now, this place is at the centre of even grander plans, because this time, we re notjust visiting the moon we want to stay. this is gateway, humanity s first space station that will orbit another world. it will go round the moon every seven days. and, like the international space station above earth, astronauts will call this place home . although, where the iss can accommodate up to 12 astronauts and is comparable to a five or six bedroom house, gateway will be.more cosy. gateway is a studio apartment. it s. we re going to have room for our four astronauts, multiple docking ports, so we can bring our orion crew transportation ship, we can bring logistics, and we can dock a lander. these four explorers won t all be cooped up on board for the whole time, though. two will actually be spending a week or two on location, down on the lunar surface. it s a chance to further study the landscape and hopefully find a location for our next giant leap a permanent moon base. gateway will be there before we put a habitat on the surface. gateway allows us to access any point on the lunar surface. when we went with apollo, we had to pick that spot on the moon and go to it. gateway will give us the opportunity to go down at different locations. the first section of gateway could be launched as early as 2025, with new modules then being added from 2027. a lunar base is admittedly further out and it comes with risk, but also reward. so, how do we make that a reality? to find out, it s time for me to take one small step of my own. oh, wow. i can instantly see the dust kind of kicking up. yeah. it s really fine, isn t it? it leaves the footprints like you d expect. oh, my gosh. that s brilliant. and this is how moon dust behaves, itjust puffs up like that? it does, yeah. it s so fine. welcome to swamp works. ..the dusty, dirty lab where they work with simulated moon dust. now, the loose soil that covers the lunar surface is called regolith. it s extremely fine, very sharp on a microscopic scale, and it gets everywhere. so when we landed with apollo 11, we didn t know what the surface of the moon exactly was going to be like. you ll notice from some of the footage, the landing pads are quite huge on the landing legs and the ladder s far away from the surface. there was a lot of concern of, how much will this lander sink into the surface? how fluffy is this regolith? the surface is fine and powdery. i can.| can pick it up loosely with my toe. in fact, it s because the eagle lander didn t sink in as much as expected that neil armstrong had to take such a giant leap from the bottom rung of the ladder. today, swamp works is developing robots that can cope with and take advantage of lunar soil. and it will be very useful. see, moon dust is made of materials like silicon dioxide and calcium oxide, which all contain a lot of oxygen. if we could mine the regolith and use chemical processes to extract the oxygen, we could make our own breathable air and our own rocket fuel. the way space flight exploration has been working right now is imagine you re going on a holiday with your family, you re going on a long road trip, thousands of miles, right? right now, we are bringing a trailer behind us with all the gas, you know, that we need with us, all the fuel, everything that we need comes with us. so we want to change that paradigm. we want to. and one of the biggest things that makes the biggest impact is the fuel, right? if we can source some of that from the moon and eventually from mars, that will allow us to bring more and to go more often. making our own fuel makes regular trips to and from the gateway space station much more viable. now, mining moon dust is called isru. and, because they love an acronym round these parts, the robot to do this will be called the isru pilot excavator, ipex. we had to really reinvent how you do excavation for doing mining on the moon, and eventually mars. the challenge is the technology we have for mining here on earth relies on a lot of mass and a lot of weight, right? the more steel you put on an excavator, the heavier it becomes and the better it digs. we can t launch something as heavy as we want on a rocket. it s still very expensive, right? so we have to reduce the mass of what we put on rockets. and then when you land it on the moon, it weighs one sixth of what it does here on earth, right? imagine, like, trying to dig as if you were on ice, right? it will just scoot across the surface. the scoop will not engage and you won t be able to collect anything. so the way the robot scoops up the dust is using this thing called a bucket drum. and it s got a kind of spiral in there. and if it turns it one way, it scoops the soil, which gradually works its way towards the middle and stays there. like that. and then when it wants to unload. ..it turns it the other way and it all comes out again. we put them on opposite ends of the robot and when it excavates, it s using both sets of drums at the same time, but they re digging in opposite directions. so one is pulling it that way and one is pulling it that way. right. ..and pulling itself down to the surface. yeah. one of the main dangers faced by extraterrestrial rovers is getting stuck. so, as an added bonus, ipex s scoops and arms can also help it to get out of a hole orflip it over if it takes a tumble. one of its other defences will keep its cameras free from all that electrostatic dust, now, just like the fuel situation, we can t take building materials with us to the moon either we have to make our structures from moon dust. these bricks and blocks and bars have all been made by mixing and melting regolith with plastic. in the future, giant 3d printers will build shelters to protect those living on a world with no atmosphere from radiation, asteroid and micrometeoroid impacts, moonquakes and temperatures ranging from +100 to 200 degrees celsius. even replacement parts can be made from regolith. so this is a wheel that has been printed with regolith and polymer. ok. this is another example of what we can do if we capture the resources from the moon. now, do you know, i ve seen and held wheels for rovers before, full size wheels, and they re really light. right. but this is really heavy. yes, this is the opposite. because those wheels that are light, especially if you re sending it on a rocket, they need to be light because it s expensive. this is heavy because it s made on the moon. and heavy wheels are a good thing, i guess. it s better, right? especially for a digger like that. like the more weight that we have on the excavator, the better it s going to perform. would you believe you can even make rope out of regolith? this is made from basalt glass really, really thin fibres, a bit like optic fibre. so you could even make rope out of moon dust. these are hopeful times for space exploration, but it s always been a risky endeavour. im 1 odysseus lunar lander separation confirmed. this year, we ve seen three probes sent to the moon. two made it, and both of those had, shall we say, awkward landings. and the artemis mission to put boots back on the lunar ground has been pushed back to 2026 at the earliest. but nasa says space explorers need to take these setbacks in their stride. i don t see it as a disappointment. it s very cliche to say space is hard, but what we re endeavouring to do is highly complex. we expect challenges along the way so this doesn t surprise us and we re pushing forward. it sounds really expensive to do space exploration. is it, and is it worth it? so, yes, it s really expensive. it was really expensive for us to explore this planet, really expensive to lay rail infrastructure, to lay highway infrastructure, to put the infrastructure in place that allows us to travel in air traffic around this globe. it s absolutely necessary for us to lay that critical infrastructure for going to space, because what we learn in that endeavour is tremendous. the exponential growth that we ve seen in the world in technology is because of great endeavours like this. it s absolutely worth it. here in the united states, every year the general population is spending as much money on potato chips as our budget is every year to go out to the moon. that s a good figure. this has been a fascinating trip to nasa. motivation may be different to the space race of the 1960s. but the size of the ambition is just as great today. as we shoot for the moon, once again. good morning, welcome to breakfast with luxmy gopal and ben boulos. our headlines today. the eu s most senior diplomat has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captives who had been held in gaza since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week in which parties will set out their manifestos. after new cctv emerges of the tv presenter michael mosley who vanished on a greek island on wednesday his wife says she will not lose hope . in sport, england s defence of the t20 world cup is in danger they re still to win in the tournament after a hefty defeat by australia in barbados in their second game. whilst there ll be a sunny start to sunday for some of you, a lot more cloud around today. that cloud increases, thickens, and we ll see some patchy rain, too. i ll have all the details here on breakfast. good morning, it s sunday the 9th ofjune. our main story. israel has been criticised by the european union s most senior diplomat over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza. eu foreign policy chief josep borrell called the reports another massacre of civilians . the mission to bring home the captives involved air strikes around a refugee camp. our middle east correspondent hugo bachega reports. the moment she was made free. 25 year old noa argamani captured by hamas on the 7th of october and taken to gaza is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her dad after a dramatic rescue. translation: please don t forget that there are another 120 - hostages in captivity. we must release them and make every effort in any way to bring them to israel and their families. by the way, it s my birthday look what a gift i got! also freed andrei kozlov, who s 27, shlomi ziv 40, and almog meirjan 21. eight months ago, they were at the nova music festival in southern israel, when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages were rescued in a major operation by the israeli military in the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation, and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp, and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the rescue mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors were unable to treat all the wounded. many people arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died, and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. the rescue was considered a success by the israeli authorities, and could change the calculation of a leader under pressure. hugo bachega, bbc news, tel aviv. our correspondent jon donnison is injerusalem. what reaction has there been? certainly do need here in israel has been one of celebration and relief, not least by the relatives of those four micro hostages who have not seen their loved ones for 246 days and i do think, as hugo suggested, it eases the pressure on prime minister netanyahu because it allows him to say, look, his strategy is working. he believes the best way to get the remaining hostages out, and there are some 116 people captured on october seven still being held, 40 on october seven still being held, a0 or so of whom are thought to be dead stop he believes the best way is to apply military pressure on hammers. hamas. there is outrage at the number of civilians killed. we have seen really discerning images from the two main hospitals in the centre of gaza, with scores of casualties being brought in, many women and children. there has also been strong condemnation from the eu s most senior diplomat, who said this was another massacre, and called for the bloodbath to end immediately. an israeli minister fired back, saying shame on you, instead of criticising hamas for holding civilians in civilian neighbourhoods, he was targeting israel for trying to rescue its citizens. ., ., ., citizens. for the moment, thanks very much- citizens. for the moment, thanks very much- jon citizens. for the moment, thanks very much. jon donnison - citizens. for the moment, thanks very much. jon donnison in i very much. jon donnison in jerusalem. back here. we are hurtling towards the general election. now less than a month away. so the battle to win votes intensifies. campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the general election, with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. our political correspondent iain watson has this report. just when you get a bit stressed. the prime minister s in the market for votes. the main westminster parties will launch their manifestos in the week ahead. rishi sunak will be hoping that this moves the focus firmly onto policy, not personality. he ll be keen to move on from his d day apology, but what s the mood in his party? his candidates like him have been out campaigning this weekend, and we ve been speaking to some of them. some have spoken about anger and disappointment. one of them despairingly said, whatever is going to happen next? will the prime minister s trousers fall down? others say that voters haven t raised the issue at all, and one candidate said that those who are so vexed by this have already defected to labour or reform. the prime minister will be hoping to keep his job after polling day onjuly the ath, and he wants to get more people into work. he s promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservatives claim they could save £12 billion from the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour say existing jails are bursting at the seams, and that the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places that it promised. if elected, the party says it will deliver that prison building programme, and change the planning laws to make it a priority. they ll also give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign they say they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care centres and providing a thousand more hospital beds. information on local ambulance response times would also be made readily available. so today, we get a sneak preview of the manifestos but it s not until the full range of policies are published that we ll know how well they connect with voters. iain watson, bbc news. we are nowjoined by our political correspondentjessica parker. good morning. this week we are expecting more detail as the parties set out their policies. yes. set out their policies. yes, absolutely. set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the key - set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the key week, | set out their policies. yes, | absolutely. the key week, i set out their policies. yes, - absolutely. the key week, i think, in the election campaign. because what we have had so far are glimpses of what is going to be in the manifesto, and a drip feed of policy announcements from the different parties. and that can, i think, feel like there is a lot of noise going around, it can be hired to keep track of exactly who has said what. what the manifestos do, as many will know, they are documents where parties lay out their promises or at least their intentions for government, if they were to win power. and crucially, as well, costings should really be provided and people might have noticed there has been a lot of back and forth, wrangling, particularly between the conservative party and the labour party about how they are actually going to pay for things and the public finances. manifestos really allow fresh scrutiny of that. they aren t that holistic package of they are a package of promises from they are a package of promises from the parties. as we expect to get them from the main parties over the next week or so, it will be a gear change to the campaign, a key moment in this general election campaign. thank you. we will be discussing policies in a bit more detail shortly. the search for the tv presenter michael mosley will resume on the greek island of symi after he went missing while out on a walk on wednesday. our correspondent joe inwood is in symi. the temperatures have affected the search. in the temperatures have affected the search. ., , ., ., ,., search. in the last hour or so we have heard search. in the last hour or so we have heard that search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a police - search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a police dog i search. in the last hour or so we | have heard that a police dog that came over, we saw it coming over on the ferry, has been sent back to athens because it is just too hot for it to operate. apparently it was getting exhausted in the heat and burning its paws on the rocks. it doesn t indicate, we don t think it indicates they are changing the search, just that it seems the dogs are not able to operate on a hillside for long periods of time. despite that, the search is continuing, it is going on. they are basically working their way methodically across this stretch of land. it is a significant area they are trying to cover, though, and though there is not much cover there, there are caves, places that michael mosley could have tried to take shelter so they are obviously trying to search every inch of this hillside. trying to search every inch of this hillside. . , ., ., , hillside. and his wife clare has said that the hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family would i hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family would not| hillside. and his wife clare has i said that the family would not lose hope. said that the family would not lose ho e, r , , said that the family would not lose ho e. , ,., , , said that the family would not lose hoe. , . ., said that the family would not lose hoe. , , ., ., hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor i hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor of i hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor of the | that was echoed by the mayor of the town, symi, who said they are going town, symi, who said they are going to continue searching for as long as it takes to find michael mosley. that statement from clare also thanked the people of this village, of this island, the greek authorities and the british consul for all the work they are doing, saying these have been the most terrible days. i am sure we can all imagine. terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. . ,, i. terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ ,, . terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ ,, . ., imagine. thank you, joe inwood in 5 mi and imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update you i imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update you on i imagine. thank you, joe inwood in| symi and we will update you on any updates in the next hour. south korea says it will resume propaganda broadcasts against north korea for the first time in six years. seoul s national security council said its decision to install loudspeakers and begin broadcasts was in response to pyongyang s campaign of sending balloons carrying rubbish across the border. the council added that any attempt at causing distress to the people of south korea was unacceptable. narendra modi is set to be sworn in as prime minister of india for his third term today. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he heads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old girl is among four people who were injured after a fun fair ride malfunctioned in lambeth in south london. our reporter helena wilkinson is at the lambeth country show where it happened. good morning. what more can you tell us? ., , good morning. what more can you tell us? . . , , ., , good morning. what more can you tell us? . , , ., , . good morning. what more can you tell us? are really serious incident took lace here us? are really serious incident took place here yesterday us? are really serious incident took place here yesterday just us? are really serious incident took place here yesterdayjust before i place here yesterdayjust before 6:30pm. the fairground isjust behind me. iwanted 6:30pm. the fairground isjust behind me. i wanted to show you and live aerial view of the fairground itself. you will be able to see some of the rides in the fairground. there is some tarpaulin around one of them, but it is not clear, and we don t know rather, which is the ride that suffered that malfunction yesterday. what happened was a huge emergency response, as you would imagine. the airambulance emergency response, as you would imagine. the air ambulance arrived here. also four ambulance crews and paramedics. they treated an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their a0s, also another man in his 50s here. they were then transferred to major trauma units. we know that their conditions are not life threatening, but we don t know what injuries they sustained during the incident here yesterday. the council says a thorough investigation will go on to establish why a ride here at the fairground malfunctioned, and the health and safety executive is also going to be informed. health and safety executive is also going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena wilkinson, i going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena wilkinson, andj correspondent helena wilkinson, and there is more on the bbc news website, as well. a world war ii veteran has married his bride on the 80th anniversary of d day near the beaches of normandy in france. harold terens, a 100 year old us army air force veteran from florida, tied the knot with 96 year old jeanne swerlin at a ceremony in carentan les marais, in northwestern france. originally from new york, harold visited france as an air force corporal shortly after d day, when he was just 20 years old. to top off the extraordinary day, the newly wedded couple then attended the state banquet in paris thrown by president macron for us leaderjoe biden. here is what the happy couple had to say. i m100 years old and my bridge is 96. i m100 years old and my bride is 96. and to be married in carentan. it s my second favourite normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do you feel young again? oh, yeah! at 96, i feel like. my god, i got butterfliesjust like the young people. - i mean it it s notjust for young people, love, you know? - we get butterflies and we get a little action also! laughter oh, that is brilliant, i love that. 96 year old jeanne and if i could have a fraction of the amount of energy she has. may be tying the knot, it s a good outfit for a. his knot, it s a good outfit for a. no wonder knot, it s a good outfit for a. in; wonder they have smiles on their faces! let s get the weather. blue skies over one part of the post dinner glucose but they will be looking with envy. they certainly will. lighting the smile they certainly will. lighting the smile across many in southern and centrai smile across many in southern and central areas. a few in eastbourne a short central areas. a few in eastbourne a short while central areas. a few in eastbourne a short while ago, looking mediterranean but let me take you north mediterranean but let me take you north towards anglesey and close to hotyhead north towards anglesey and close to holyhead. different colour of sky. the cloud holyhead. different colour of sky. the cloud has rolled in and it is that the cloud has rolled in and it is that which the cloud has rolled in and it is that which will become a bit more dominant that which will become a bit more dominant overhead for many as we go through dominant overhead for many as we go through the dominant overhead for many as we go through the coming hours and into the afternoon. a lot of it has been streaming the afternoon. a lot of it has been streaming out of the north atlantic, this strip streaming out of the north atlantic, this strip here, pushing its way, bringing this strip here, pushing its way, bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle to bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle to northern ireland, parts of southern scotland and north west england of southern scotland and north west england and north west wales. breaks up england and north west wales. breaks up at times england and north west wales. breaks up at times across south east scotland up at times across south east scotland and north east england, so there scotland and north east england, so there will scotland and north east england, so there will be some sunshine in the sunshine there will be some sunshine in the sunshine in there will be some sunshine in the sunshine in south wales, the midlands, southwards, that will give way to midlands, southwards, that will give way to a midlands, southwards, that will give way to a lot more cloud, parts of devon, way to a lot more cloud, parts of devon, cornwall, dorset, channel tines devon, cornwall, dorset, channel lines will devon, cornwall, dorset, channel lines will stay sunny all day. still some lines will stay sunny all day. still some sunny spells by the north but a few showers. here is the cloudy is to spot few showers. here is the cloudy is to spot where the rain and drizzle will keep to spot where the rain and drizzle will keep coming and going and in northern will keep coming and going and in northern ireland, particularly to the west. northern ireland, particularly to the west, is where the rain is heavier the west, is where the rain is heavier and more persistent into the afternoon heavier and more persistent into the afternoon. it will feel rather chilly afternoon. it will feel rather chilly here, ten to 13 degrees. simitar chilly here, ten to 13 degrees. similar story in northern scotland. elsewhere. similar story in northern scotland. elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe 19 elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots in maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots in the south. a wet evening in northern spots in the south. a wet evening in northern ireland, the rain then spreads northern ireland, the rain then spreads across much of england and wales spreads across much of england and wales. there will be some southern counties wales. there will be some southern counties not seen much of anything at att~ counties not seen much of anything at all. persistent rain by the end of the at all. persistent rain by the end of the night for some eastern parts of the night for some eastern parts of in the of the night for some eastern parts of in the. scotland and northern ireland, of in the. scotland and northern ireland, it of in the. scotland and northern ireland, it will clear and with clear ireland, it will clear and with clear skies and shelter from the breeze, clear skies and shelter from the breeze, some valleys could see temperatures down to 2 or three degrees temperatures down to 2 or three degrees. not helped by the fact you have northerly flow into monday, low pressure have northerly flow into monday, low pressure continuing to pull eastwards. the weather system you saw in eastwards. the weather system you saw in the eastwards. the weather system you saw in the chart, here it is, parts of of saw in the chart, here it is, parts of of yorkshire, linkage, east midlands, east anglia will stop a wet and midlands, east anglia will stop a wet and windy and cool start to monday wet and windy and cool start to monday. outbreaks of rain continuing in east monday. outbreaks of rain continuing in east anglia, brightening to the afternoon in east anglia, brightening to the afternoon. elsewhere, sunny skies will develop quite widely through the morning and then shower clouds will develop. some on the heavy side will develop. some on the heavy side. wintry in the scottish mountains and a bit more cloud to take away mountains and a bit more cloud to take away some of that sunshine in the north take away some of that sunshine in the north of take away some of that sunshine in the north of scotland. temperatures drop further into monday, a cool start drop further into monday, a cool start to drop further into monday, a cool start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower than start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower than normal thanks to the northerly lower than normal thanks to the northerly winds and that cool it feel certainly there on tuesday, as wett~ feel certainly there on tuesday, as well. bright start for many, there whitst well. bright start for many, there whilst it well. bright start for many, there whilst it will feel cool it is not will be whilst it will feel cool it is not will be particularly wet. many places will be particularly wet. many places will be dry. even in a northerly places will be dry. even in a northerly wind we will see some showers northerly wind we will see some showers develop, central and eastern areas showers develop, central and eastern areas most showers develop, central and eastern areas most prone. some of the heaviest areas most prone. some of the heaviest of those. look at those temperatures, ten to 16 or 17 degrees. temperatures, ten to 16 or 17 degrees. certainly doesn t look, or will feel. degrees. certainly doesn t look, or will feel, like early summer, that is how will feel, like early summer, that is how it will feel, like early summer, that is how it goes for the rest of the week is how it goes for the rest of the week. temperatures are fairly sinritar week. temperatures are fairly sinritar a week. temperatures are fairly similar. a few showers around at times similar. a few showers around at times but similar. a few showers around at times but equally a bit of sunshine. thank you. short changed the temperatures but at least a bit of sunshine. thank you. even though the temperatures may not feel like it we are not far off in july. with under a month to go until the general election it s been another busy week in politics with headlines domimated by party manifestos and d day commemorations. here to discuss what we can expect over the next week is aubrey allegretti, the chief political correspondent from the times and sonia sodha, a former labour advisor and observer columnist. good morning to you both. thank you forjoining us. aubrey, one key development in the past week is nigel farage and he was obviously part of the election debate, he will be on laura kuenssberg later this morning. the key question, how does he change the dynamic and the pressure on the conservative party? reform has been polling around 12% to 15% reform has been polling around 12% to 15% over reform has been polling around 12% to 15% over the last few months and i suppose to 15% over the last few months and i suppose there has been a question about i suppose there has been a question about whether or not that was the ceiling about whether or not that was the ceiling at about whether or not that was the ceiling at which they might reach. nigel ceiling at which they might reach. nigel farage has come into the fray both to nigel farage has come into the fray both to lead the party and stand as a candidate, that has rattled lots of conservative mps in a mostly red wall of conservative mps in a mostly red watt areas. of conservative mps in a mostly red wall areas, who think the reform vote is wall areas, who think the reform vote is most concentrated. they have said, vote is most concentrated. they have said. as vote is most concentrated. they have said. as the vote is most concentrated. they have said, as the election was getting closer. said, as the election was getting closer. the said, as the election was getting closer, the minds of voters were being closer, the minds of voters were being narrowed around the two opportunities they thought would be most likely to lead country as prime minister. most likely to lead country as prime minister, rishi sunak and keir starnrer minister, rishi sunak and keir starmer. but since nigel farage s announcement, the reform vote has heightened again and they are concerned it could take lots of votes concerned it could take lots of votes of concerned it could take lots of votes of the conservative party without votes of the conservative party without necessarily leading to reform without necessarily leading to reform making the breakthrough is it might reform making the breakthrough is it might need in the first past the post might need in the first past the post system to get seats in parliament. post system to get seats in parliament. ., ., , , post system to get seats in parliament. . . , , . parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week- parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what is parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what is your - parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what is your take i parliament. sonia, it has been aj busy week. what is your take on parliament. sonia, it has been a i busy week. what is your take on the key moments we have seen? i busy 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that translate into seats not necessarily see that translate into seats for not necessarily see that translate into seats for reform not necessarily see that translate into seats for reform but - not necessarily see that translate into seats for reform but they. not necessarily see that translate i into seats for reform but they will take votes into seats for reform but they will take votes from into seats for reform but they will take votes from the into seats for reform but they will take votes from the conservativesi take votes from the conservatives and make take votes from the conservatives and make it take votes from the conservatives and make it easier take votes from the conservatives and make it easier therefore - take votes from the conservatives and make it easier therefore for. and make it easier therefore for labour and make it easier therefore for labour to and make it easier therefore for labour to win and make it easier therefore for labour to win it and make it easier 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marginal seats. the net effect of nigel farage will probably. effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of the - effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of the labourl be to boost the size of the labour majority, be to boost the size of the labour majority, so be to boost the size of the labour majority, so att be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a very- be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a very bad . majority, so all in all a very bad week majority, so all in all a very bad week for majority, so all in all a very bad week for the majority, so all in all a very bad week for the conservatives. - majority, so all in all a very bad week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear - week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear a - week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear a lot, i one of the phrases we hear a lot, awful phrase, is cooked through. how much of the chat in the westminster bubble and all of this actually reaches people at home cut through. not least rishi sunak s absence from the latter part of the d day celebrations but also the election debate. how much do you think the debate that was broadcast on friday actually made a difference to voters minds? it is on friday actually made a difference to voters minds? to voters minds? it is a really interesting to voters minds? it is a really interesting question to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and - to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and to i to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and to be honest interesting question and to be honest both parties are asking themselves it because the poles have been stubbornly not moving the bolts been stubbornly not moving the bolts have been stubbornly not moving the polls have been not moving for 18 months polls have been not moving for 18 months since rishi sunak became prime months since rishi sunak became prime minster. during the heat of the election campaign, and certainly the election campaign, and certainly the conservative party were hoping they would have narrowed that breed. the thought that more people would like rishi the thought that more people would like rishi sunak s forensics style and people would buy into his claims but that and people would buy into his claims but that has not been borne out in the potting but that has not been borne out in the polling so we suspected probably take three or four days for the major take three or four days for the major news events, including things like rishi major news events, including things like rishi sunak singh the final part of like rishi sunak singh the final part of the d day commemorations and tv debates part of the d day commemorations and tv debates devoted to the public consciousness and for us to be able to measure. consciousness and for us to be able to measure, has there been an impact? to measure, has there been an impact? probably slightly too early to tell, impact? probably slightly too early to tell, but certainly aren t rishi sunak s to tell, but certainly aren t rishi sunak s actions there was a conservative mp who said this will realty conservative mp who said this will really stick in the point of people i really stick in the point of people i spoke really stick in the point of people i spoke to really stick in the point of people i spoke to. theresa may in 2017, commemorating victims of grenfell tower commemorating victims of grenfell tower fire, commemorating victims of grenfell tower fire, the queen stepped into the breach tower fire, the queen stepped into the breach and in this case it was rishi the breach and in this case it was rishi suhak the breach and in this case it was rishi sunak keir starmer meeting people rishi sunak keir starmer meeting people rishi sunak could have otherwise done on wednesday. this will be otherwise done on wednesday. this will be remembered as a really significant moment. the tv debate is interesting significant moment. the tv debate is interesting. mostly about whether we are irr interesting. mostly about whether we are in post interesting. mostly about whether we are in post tbh for these debates. i beobte are in post tbh for these debates. i people much more attuned to social media people much more attuned to social media and people much more attuned to social media and getting their news that way? media and getting their news that way? the media and getting their news that way? the political market is probably way? the political market is probably very grateful that the social probably very grateful that the social media clips are being picked up social media clips are being picked up but social media clips are being picked up but i social media clips are being picked up but i people getting tuned in and making up but i people getting tuned in and making up up but i people getting tuned in and making up their minds question at three making up their minds question at three weeks to go so i suspect most people three weeks to go so i suspect most people witt three weeks to go so i suspect most people will still be tuning in. picking people will still be tuning in. picking up on that point from aubrey , sonia sodha. , sonia a picking up on that point from aubrey , sonia a lot of the impact is through those very short meme clips for example that labour has been putting on tiktok, getting traction. some of the conservatives videos have had a significant number of views. in a week when the manifestos are launched, how much difference does the detail, the fine print that we get this week, make, given that attention spans are perhaps shorter than they were? attention spans are perhaps shorter than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is in - than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is in the - also depends a lot what is in the manifestos also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and whether- also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and whether there i also depends a lot what is in the i manifestos and whether 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cost of living, climate, immigration, what do you think are going to be the key point is that all parties. we have talked a lot about labour and the conservatives, but all parties, what do you think will be the standout one? the parties, what do you think will be the standout one? parties, what do you think will be the standout one? the cost of living and the economy the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still polls - the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still polls highestl and the economy still polls highest as a due and the economy still polls highest as a due container voters. labour manifesto, as a due container voters. labour manifesto, public services at the heart manifesto, public services at the heart of manifesto, public services at the heart of the office, 40,000 more gp appointments every week, and trying to boost appointments every week, and trying to boost the number of teachers in schools. to boost the number of teachers in schools. as to boost the number of teachers in schools, as well. obviously the backdrop schools, as well. obviously the backdrop to all of this is that there backdrop to all of this is that there is backdrop to all of this is that there is quite a difficult economic context there is quite a difficult economic context. so whichever party goes into government afterjuly the 5th is going into government afterjuly the 5th is going to have quite limited room for manoeuvre to be able to do things for manoeuvre to be able to do things they want to. the conservatives have been talking a lot about conservatives have been talking a lot about tax cuts about their next agenda, lot about tax cuts about their next agenda, and while we saw the cuts to national agenda, and while we saw the cuts to national insurance in the november budget national insurance in the november budget last year and again in march this year. budget last year and again in march this year. it budget last year and again in march this year, it was not quite clear that this year, it was not quite clear that that this year, it was not quite clear that that was resonating with voters that that was resonating with voters. they certainly have concerns about voters. they certainly have concerns about the voters. they certainly have concerns about the cost of living and the economy about the cost of living and the economy but i think they are looking to political economy but i think they are looking to political parties to be quite serious to political parties to be quite serious and tell them the truth about serious and tell them the truth about the serious and tell them the truth about the extent of the difficulties they will about the extent of the difficulties they will face if they come into office. they will face if they come into office, and what they can and cannot fix. office, and what they can and cannot fix~ if office, and what they can and cannot fix~ if they office, and what they can and cannot fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will take fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will take to do that even if it is not it will take to do that even if it is not in it will take to do that even if it is not in a it will take to do that even if it is not in a single parliament. aubrey is not in a single parliament. aubrey allegretti, chief political correspondent at the times, and sonia sodha, a former labour adviser and observer columnist, thank you to you both. the pressure on public services is a key election issue and in an effort to understand the challenges they re under, we re going to be reporting on three key areas over the coming days education, courts and social care. this morning we re focusing on schools and their struggle to address a range of social issues beyond teaching. our social affairs correspondent michael buchanan has been to one primary school in telford where teachers are helping with potty training and basic communication.. which column do i start with? you add these for me. a simple maths lesson a familiar part of the school day for most pupils. fantastic. move onto the next one. but increasingly in classrooms are children who struggle to simply be in school. 50p! in early years, we have a number of children who struggle with basic communication, stringing a sentence together. please can i go to the toilet? , can i have a drink? they re sentences that we have to teach our children how to say. london academy is a small primary school in a relatively deprived area of telford. almost half the pupils are on free school meals. the lack of communication skills means the school has to teach makaton a basic form of sign language. but that s not all. we have intimate care plans for a number of our children. we change the children. we also try and teach them how to go to the toilet, as well so we try to do some of that potty training but we do have children still in nappies in our early years environment. eight were in nappies. louise says her last september, of the 27 children who joined london academy s reception class, eight were in nappies. louise says her son wasn t potty trained when he started school. he was quite late in everything, really! he wasn t ready, so. and then we felt when he was ready, then school helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before he came to school? i had, yeah, and he there wasjust no interest at all from him to try that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school, but a chat with them reveals why schools increasingly struggle to focus solely on educating children. my oldest daughter, i ve just i ve pulled her out of school. i home educate my eldest one now. how old is she? 14. cos she was self harming, bullying, due to her mental health. right. but now she s at home, she does her work. she s happy, she s eating, she s sleeping. it s great. my wife has borderline personality disorder. all right, ok. so there s a lot of stress and emotional mental health. so that was affecting the children, their upbringing, the things that were going on. so we ve had help from the social services, help my wife get back to where she wants to be, but also guide the children into a better life. and that was through the school? through the school, yeah. london academy is part of a 13 school multi academy trust. its head says long standing challenges caused by tight budgets have been exacerbated by covid and cost of living pressures. coming out of the pandemic, children are quite often more anxious about large social situations because people were out of that for a while and at quite formative stages in their education and in their own personal development. i think, ultimately, when children are coming to school more hungry, that s probably having a bigger impact as an ongoing thing. i think we would have recovered quicker if it hadn t been for those issues. so this is our food hub. to help its families, the learning community trust has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i went out to do a visit myself. the children in the house were having weetabix with tap water. she leads the trust welfare team, who spend a lot of their time providing emotional and psychological support to hundreds of pupils. but nikki wonders what ll happen to them once they re older. a lot of support is in place for children through the school system, but when they leave school, that support starts to peter off. somebody s going to have to pick up that group of children when they leave school, and then try to put the support in then to enable them to be productive and functional members of society. the challenges in telford are, of course, nationwide how to help the many children who can t cope with school cope with life. michael buchanan, bbc news, telford. it is coming up to 833. sunday with laura kuenssberg is on bbc one at 9:00 this morning. let s find out what she has in store. the pace of the race for number 10 is getting quicker and quicker and quicker. after a terrible few days for the tories, we ll be asking this morning how they can turn things around or if they can. the man who s making so many conservatives nervous is nigel farage the leader of reform uk. he lljoin us live along with labour, conservative and snp politicians, and a fantastic panel to boot. so join me over on bbc one at 9:00. see you then. as the uk election campaign continue we want your help in how we cover it. the bbc has launched your voice, your vote so you can tell us the issues that matter to you. our reporter amanda parr has been to kingswood to speak to first time voters and hear their thoughts on the election.. thanks for having us. first time voters. so have you registered. you registered yet? not yet. but you know your deadline. yeah. yeah, ok, good. i have. you have? brownie points to you. so you wanted to talk to me today about mental health. why is this a burning issue for you all this election? so it s such a relevant topic to everyone it affects everyone and it really impacts young people in their school life, in life in general. so it s really important that it s, like, more covered. i feel like the lack of support, or i feel like as life goes and, like, families, and obviously there s, like, a lot of negative things happen in people s lives. a lot of it kind of builds up to, like, what happens in the future and it really impacts the social life whether they re doing, like, more knife crime orjust out more on the street. so there s not really enough support from the government and just education itself. lack of nhs funding with, like, mental health support. there s so many, like, really long waiting lists for mental health support, counselling, therapy. it s. it s got to change, you know? we want it. we really want it to change. i would sometimes link it to crime. and, you know, seeing as crime has become a really big issue in the recent years, i think there s a lot we could do to prevent it, rather than stop it - preventing it better than the cure. so i think that s something . we could focus on, especially putting counsellors in schools - and helping them identify students that could be vulnerable to, - you know, mental health conditions and even criminal environments. so what do you want to see from the politicians? what do you want to hear in terms of policies things that will make you vote for them? increase funding in schools to allow younger people to be able to find . other ways out instead of being, you know, picked up by gangs and violence. and really, like, say what they re going to change instead ofjust kind of.like, saying in a such a general way. i think being specific with it will really help people understand what they are voting for. you re obviously very switched on, and you re giving this election a lot of head space. how important do you think it is that young people do as you are doing? really important, i think. because, i mean, it s the future of our country and our lives. i mean, what s more important than that, right? and i think if we make our voices heard, we could make so much positive change to so many people. young people don t get, you know, the attention| of many of the policies in their manifestos. i and that means, you know, - we lose out in the end if we re not voting and we re not- making our voices heard. well, guys, it s great to meet you today. good to talk. and thank you for adding your voices to the debate. no problem. thank you. that report from amanda parr. you can find a full list of the candidates standing in the kingswood constituency on the bbc news website. and if you have a question for a politician or perhaps an issue that you re concerned about.(tx you can get in touch as part of your voice, your vote by scannig this qr code or go to bbc.co.uk/news on your phone, tablet or laptop. time now for us to get the sport and hewittjoins us. focusing on cricket. england against pakistan later and they only play each other in these global tournaments because of all of the issues that everyone watching will understand. thea;r of all of the issues that everyone watching will understand. they are -la in: in watching will understand. they are playing in new watching will understand. they are playing in new york. watching will understand. they are playing in new york. they ll- watching will understand. they are playing in new york. they ll be - playing in new york. they ll be 30,000 plus people watching there. scotland play in a manner later on and that is important to england who lost their big rivalry match last night to australia. it means that they are in some peril as they want to defend this trophy successfully because they might not even make the next stage because currently the start that england has had of two matches and no wins has put their chances of making that suit a stage in doubt. put into bat in barbados. david warner and travis head made a flying start 70 without loss in the 5th over australia reaching 201 for 7 from their 20 overs. in reply, england started strongly, captainjos buttler top scoring with 42 but they lost wickets at regular intervals and they ultimately fell well short of their target, losing by 36 runs. the situation we find ourselves in is the situation we find ourselves in. we ve got to be confident, keep our heads up, and look forward to the next one, and keep puffing our chest out and play some really good cricket which we know we re capable of. south africa remain top of their group after surviving a scare against the netherlands. chasing 104 to win, they were 12 for 4 at one stage. but they managed the run chase well an unbeaten 59 off 51 balls from david miller saw south africa win by four wickets. while overnight uganda were bowled out forjust 39 in their defeat to west indies. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title is over after the saints won a dramatic premiership final at twickenham. alex mitchell scored the winning try against bath. who were down to 14 men. with just seven minutes left as northampton claimed their second championship. and a perfect send off for the departing courtenay lawes after 17 years with the club. it s not really sunk in yet, i think, because we ve been so focused on this for so long. and then during the game i thought, let s just get the win whatever, however you can, kind of thing. and then you get there and you re like, oh. have we done it? do you know i mean? but, no, its class. can t really put it into words. and i think we deserved it i think over the season we ve been the best team, and sometimes you got to find a way to win. social media tells us that those goggles were there because of all of the champagne that was spraying in the champagne that was spraying in the dressing room post match. traditionally rugby league s big day of the year. the challenge cup final was a fitting occasion to pay tribute to rob burrow. and as the sport said goodbye to one of its legends. on the pitch wigan warriors beat warrington wolves at wembley to win the trophy for a 2ist time. after two first half tries captain liam farrell took wigan out of reach as he touched down to help seal an 18 8 win. matt peet s side now hold all four major honors in the league leaders shield, the super league title, the world club challenge. while they rejoint top of the current league table too. pretty surreal. we haven t really spoken about it, truthfully, until the beginning of this week. to hold all four trophies i think there s only a couple of other teams ever done it, so a very big achievement for ourselves. and, yeah, we re in a great place at the moment. look, the year s not over we ve got. there s a lot of rugby left in us, so. don t get me wrong, we ll celebrate this rightly, next couple of days, but then it ll be back to business after that. st helens made it four straight women s challenge cup final victories as they comfortably beat leeds rhinos. rob burrow s old side were looking for inspiration on the wembley stage but came up short. saints running in four tries without reply to lift the trophy once again as they beat the rhinos for the third final running i think the only thing better than doing it the first time is going to be doing it the second time. like that. that is an amazing leeds side to stop them from scoring with the pressure they had early on honestly, i couldn t be prouder. we said. we spoke about, we were doing it for each other. every time you couldn t think of taking on the ball and you re doing it for the person next to you. there s people out there that didn t win it last year, and they ve done it now and they re going to be champions. after a disappointing start to the french open for british singles players the tournament ended on a high with alfie hewett and gordon reid winning the men s wheelchair doubles title for a fifth successive year. another serial winner is iga swiatek. atjust 23 years of age she s a french open singles winner for the fourth time. the pole continued her recent dominance on the roland garros clay with a straight sets win against first time major finalist jasmine paolini of italy. it was swiatek s third title in a row in paris and a fifth grand slam triumph overall. it s the turn of the men this afternoon with carlos alcaraz taking on germany s alexander zverev. it s the first time either man has reached the final in paris. zverev is searching for his first grand slam title. whilst alcaraz is going for his third and hoping tojoin an illustrious list of spaniards to have won the title at roland garros. and i wanted you to put my name on that list of the spanish players who won this tournament. not only rafa but ferrero, moya, costa a lot of the spanish players that are legends from our sport won this tournament. and i really want you to put my name on that list, as well. i think in a grand semi final, there s obviously no easy matches and no easy opponents. and if you re. if you re in the final of roland garros, you deserve to be there. and that goes for him, as well he played a fantastic match today. you know, played a fantastic tournament in general, i think, and i m expecting a very difficult match. it s the final few days of pre euros friendies. and spain appear to be in good form. although it was northern ireland that bore the brunt of it. not immediately though. sunderland defender daniel ballard gave northern ireland a shock lead just 67 seconds after kick off in majorca. but things soon turned. as they conceded four goals in the first half and eventually lost 5 1. northern ireland should have an easier game against andorra on tuesday. spain face a far sterner test in their opening match of the euros against croatia on saturday. great britain have won their first medals at the european athletics championships in rome. with romell glave taking bronze in the 100 metres. (tx the race was won by olympic champion marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title on a golden night for hosts italy in rome. who won three medals. it s glaves first championship medal. george mills won silver in the men s 5000 meters, finishing behind norwegian star jakob ingebrigtsen. mills is the son of former england internationalfootballer danny mills and he s now got his sights set on the paris olympics next month. so i want to run the 15 and the five in paris, and hopefully tonight is my chances of selection. no harm. but, yeah, we ll see there s still a month out or three weeks out till trials, so straight back to training as of probably tonight and tomorrow, and then we get stuck in. primoz roglic looks like he s coming into form just in time for the tour de france. the slovenian. who s recovering from a serious crash during a race two months ago. won the hardest stage of the criterium du dauphine. it was his second stage win in two days. and he leads byjust over a minute going into today s final stage. dutch cyclist lorena viebers claimed victory on stage three of the women s tour of britain which started and finished in warrington. her team mate world champion lotte kopecky retained her 17 second lead over britain s anna henderson. and it looks like the mercedes formula one team could be challenging for race wins again after george russell claimed pole for this evening s canadian grand prix. the briton recorded a time of one minute and 12 seconds exactly on his first run in the final session of qualifying in montreal. championship leader max verstappen posted exactly the same time in his red bull. but because russell did it first he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. it feels amazing, i mean, so much hard work back at the factory. so much hard work over all of these years, i ve sort of been zigzagging around and changing the philosophy and concept and over the last 26 months those zigzags have got a bit smaller and narrower. the upgrades we brought last week in monaco and a few more bits on the car this week, really have transformed the car and it is feeling great. and, so good to claim this poll. that race plus indeed the men s final is part of your radio listening for the day. thank you very much listening for the day. thank you very much for listening for the day. thank you very much for that, listening for the day. thank you very much for that, hugh. - listening for the day. thank you very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once a very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once a common l 846 and they were once a common sight in our countryside and gardens but now the willow to it is said to be at the risk of extinction after numbers declined by as much as 90% over the last five decades. in response, a team of conservationists and volunteers across the north of england have hatched a plan to rescue the reclusive species, as our correspondent judy hobson explains. these tiny birds were once regular visitors to our gardens. but not any more. in greater manchester alone, there are nowjust120 breeding pairs after suffering a huge decline over the past five decades. so we ve got a lot of wetness here, water on this side and water on that side. damp, wet woodland is really what willow tits really like. now conservation volunteers in the north west are being asked to help rescue them. the project is called wet willow wildlife. so we re going to engage volunteers in surveying the willow tit populations across the north west. and once we ve understood that population, we re going to use that information to design habitat interventions. astley moss has been identified as an area which could be restored to help the willow tit population. we need rotten deadwood like this in a woodland for willow tits to excavate, whereas, for example, this living tree here is pretty hard. so a willow tit wouldn t be able to excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard to spot. we didn t see any here today but they do have a distinctive call. willow tit beeps. willow tits are often in places really close to people s houses like in bolton and in trafford. you ve got willow tits right in these scruffy pockets of woodland right behind people s houses and people just. they re an elusive bird so people don t know that they re there. this is a lowland rain bog site. but on the edges of it, we ve got this kind of woodland habitat. volunteers are working with the wildlife trust with funding from the government species survival fund. they ll work with landowners to increase the willow tits habitat, benefiting a host of other creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a habitat that s overlooked by people or undervalued. it s a bit scruffy looking, it s untidy, it s a bit wet and boggy, and it s a bit unloved. there are a number of factors for the willow tit to climb. quite possibly climate change is playing a part. some of the wetter habitats potentially might be drying up in the longer, hotter summers. it s a bird that doesn t move that far and we need to create these pockets of habitats, sort of stepping stones in a way across the landscape so that willow tits can move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims to boost the willow tit s chance of survival and halt the alarming decline in this once common bird. what we want to do is to make sure there s always a home for the willow tit in the west. it s a really iconic species and it really needs our help. judy hobson, bbc news. we did see some warm layers of clothing there because even though it is june we clothing there because even though it isjune we have not been able to put the jackets away just yet because it does not feel like summer! when do those bird watchers get some slightly night said temperatures matt! i ve been looking at the chart and there is not quite decided yet on the horizon. we will get there. things will get a little cooler over the next few days, can you believe it? just put it into context, the temperatures at this stage injune should be somewhere between 16 and 20 degrees but as we go through into the start of next week, they are going to be about four or 5 degrees below what we expect this time of year. when you have got the absence of any sunshine, so important for adding strength and warmth into the atmosphere, it will feel even chillier than that. we ve got it all to blame with its area of low pressure, as it slowly meanders across the north atlantic and into scandinavia. as a more northerly wind develops. a weather system today which is going to take away some of the morning sunshine some of you have already been enjoying. the best of the sunshine across the central and southern areas but even here it will cloud over. north and central belt of scotland some sunny spells and a scattering of showers but that cloudier zone are particularly across the north of england, north midlands, north wales, patchy drizzle, south west scotland to bet northern ireland the patchy drizzle replaced by the end of the afternoon. temperatures similar to yesterday but when the sun is gone it will feel cool. rain this evening in northern ireland but tonight some wetter weather spread eastwards across england and wales were some heavy bursts at times especially across north england and north midlands. and especially towards east anglia. it will clear up towards east anglia. it will clear up later on and will be a chilly night and temperatures in rural areas will get down to two or three degrees. northerly winds developing bitter cold and wet star developing to that week. rain lasting longer in east anglia but away from that, sunshine during the morning, some clouds building into the afternoon and some areas will stay dry. but it will feel chilly in that northerly breeze. whatever your plans for the weekend, enjoy! thanks very much, matt, see you. it s been incredible to see the outpouring of emotions and tributes for rugby league legend rob burrow who died of mnd at the age of 41 last week. it is hard to believe he is gone and if you have not seen it already do watch the documentary on iplayer at the moment. inspired by rob, a doctor diagnosed with motor neurone disease himself is taking on an epic challenge to raise money and awareness of the condition. our reporter katharine da costa met up with luke hames brown during his training. initially, my symptoms started in my legs. it s progressed to my arms, my hands, my shoulders. luke hames brown s already seeing the slow decline in his muscles, making it difficult to walk. he was only diagnosed with motor neurone disease in april last year. it s a fairly rare condition it s not something you see a lot of in general practice.but certainly very aware of what that diagnosis meant. pretty devastating to hear that. certainly took some time to process that news, and what it meant for us and ourfamilies. having been an active snowboarder, surfer and walker, luke s used to challenging himself. but at 35, he s decided to leave his career as a gp to spend the time he has left with his wife and family. some of those numbers are very scary in people dying within two, three years of the diagnosis. the thing that we can try and do is pack in as much as we can in the next couple of years and hoping that it is slow and it continues to be slow and we have years rather than months. thank you. the couple is preparing to walk the length of hadrian s wall covering around ten miles a day over eight days. this isn t about having to do it in the fastest possible time, it s about showing that i can still do these things i enjoy, and about hopefully helping other people to realise that, with adaptations, you can keep doing them. i can tell it will be really hard for him mentally and physically. so, as a team, i know that we ll get through it together probably with lots of sweets and chocolate and tea breaks. they re raising money for the charity my name s doddie foundation, set up by the former scottish and british rugby legend doddie weir, who died from mnd in 2022. they re also donating funds to the mnd association of which rob burrow was the patron. the rugby league star and his wife lindsey had agreed to meet with luke to offer support and advice before rob passed away. the way that he approached his diagnosis, and in being so open and candid about it in the public eye. ..has raised enormous awareness, which is so needed. and on a personal level, was inspirational to me. luke and kate will celebrate their second wedding anniversary while they re away making memories and raising money for research into a cure along the way. katherine da costa, bbc news, in oxford. we wish him well with that challenge. a young lego fan has designed a spaceship which lit up the new york city skyline. ten year old lotty was one of six winners across the world who won a competition to design a spacecraft which was recreated by drones. corinne wheatley has more. mysterious lights over the new york skyline. not from outer space but definitely inspired by it. in fact, one of these designs came from somewhere much closer to home a dining room table in kippax, west yorkshire. we had to break them ones to rebuild, but with what you ve got on the table. you had to make a lego creation i would want to go to space in. you had to, in turn, tell it why you d want to go in your creation. my design was a bed with butterfly wings, and fire coming out of the back, and then a snack drawer underneath it. both: five, four, three, two, one. lego mad lottie won a trip to see her design lit up by drones helping her dreams of space travel come alive. there s loads of planets that no one s been to, and i would want to go discover some of the planets and see if there s life in any of them. not a lot of, like, girls have gone to space or been anywhere on the moon. and then it s always boys who go. er. you re doing it for the girls, aren t you? yeah. so how to build, then you can rebuild. when she s drawn on the piece of paper and it s gone from the paper to a real life thing flown in the sky it was just amazing. like you say, there was no words, you had to just stand in awe and look at it. she strives to do whatever she wants. but, yeah, it s just nice to see that she does want to go and push, don t you? follow your dreams. definitely. around 20,000 bikers have completed a mammoth ride from london to cumbria in memory of the tv chef dave myers, who died of cancer in february. the procession made its way to dave s home town of barrow after setting off from a famous biker hang out, the ace cafe in north west london. our correspondent sharon barbour joined them on the journey. cheering. it s a big night in barrow a celebration of the life of dave myers. tens of thousands have arrived many of them hairy bikers. they re riding all the way up the m6. there was thousands of people on every bridge. it s unbelievable. as we were coming in through the towns and villages leading into barrow, just streets were lined and it was just amazing. the roar of tens of thousands of motorbikes heard across england today began to arrive late afternoon. the procession at times was 16 miles long, and the route was lined by supporters. leading the cavalcade that left london this morning was dave s best friend and fellow hairy biker remarkable reception! just mind blowing. all of the all the over bridges, all the way from london to barrow in furness people waving and showing kindness and courtesy and oh! unbelievable! the tv chef died in february, after he was diagnosed with cancer. he was 66. sharon barbour, bbc news, cumbria. are perfect tribute. that s all from us this morning, but breakfast will be back tomorrow from six. enjoy the rest of your day. goodbye! who is on their way to number ten? the prime minister s had a dreadfulfew days after his d day blunder. but the tories are still trying to torture labour with their disputed claims about tax. the power of the smaller parties has been centre stage. more antics on the trail, and full on farage making conservatives nervous. in the latest of our leader interviews, he joins us from essex. stephen flynn, the leader of the snp in westminster, joins us from aberdeen. and with all of us in the studio, mel stride, close ally of rishi sunak, the work and pensions secretary. and shabana mahmood, who d be thejustice secretary if labour moves into number ten. welcome to you both, a rough week for you guys. welcome to you both, a rough week for you guys- for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to go for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to go and for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to go and the - for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to go and the only . are four weeks to go and the only poll that matters is on the 4th of july. i poll that matters is on the 4th of jul . . . poll that matters is on the 4th of jul . . , ., , poll that matters is on the 4th of jul. . , ., , july. i agree, it s the only poll that matters july. i agree, it s the only poll that matters and we - july. i agree, it s the only poll that matters and we are - july. i agree, it s the only poll that matters and we are out l july. i agree, it s the only poll - that matters and we are out there fighting that matters and we are out there fighting for every vote for is why i look forward to hearing from you later look forward to hearing from you later in look forward to hearing from you later in the look forward to hearing from you later in the programme. john curtice will give his 60 seconds on sunday need to 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all russian and soviet dictators, their problem is they always think that they re the last line of defense. you are in power. you have the right to, if you decide, to destroy it so nobody else will get it. the united states doesn t even notice that the soviets are on edge. they didn t even put the soviet reaction into ronald reagan s presidential daily brief. [indistinct radio chatter] [narrator] before andropov can act, the able archer operation wraps up on schedule. [pilot] roger that. [narrator] andropov is finally persuaded that this really was just an exercise. this time. [tim] the united states didn t know to ratchet down the tension when it really mattered. that is an indicator of just the lack of understanding that the united states and the soviet union had of each other. but in a nuclear confrontation, lack of understanding can have catastrophic consequences when adversaries have nuclear weapons pointed at each other and don t understand each other. every day in every state across the country, our political system is bankrolled by an army of fund-raisers, pulling in millions of dollars a race. sometimes it looks like you might imagine knocking on doors, calling every name in the phone book, and emails so many emails. but for all those little fish throwing $100 to their local race, it s the whales those campaign fund-raisers really need powerful, rich individuals and companies. and when they donate $25,000, $100,000, a million dollars, they want a favor.or 10. it should be obvious that s corrupt, but with a wink and a nod, political deals toe the bribery line every single day. and we may never have noticed that if a certain illinois governor hadn t flung back the curtain with an unrepentant ego, a political corruption crime spree, and a set of unprecedented audio recordings that shined a bright light on the inner workings of american political power. ladies and gentlemen, meet rod blagojevich. it was early morning, cause i used to get up every morning and turn on the 6:00 news, and, you know, like, you re kinda waking up, and then you re like, well, wait, what? [helicopter whirring] oh, sh , they outside of blagojevich s house! they got cameras, they got cars, and then they march him out. and you re like, that s our governor, joe. breaking news the illinois governor, rod blagojevich, charged with plotting to sell barack obama s former senate seat. tapper: remember this guy? he sure hopes you do. governor rod blagojevich went down in a blaze of infamy for one of the largest political corruption scandals of our time. the governor was allegedly trying to sell the illinois senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. in fact, part of the governor s sales pitch was that the seat still had that new obama smell. [audience laughter] appointing someone to the senate is a rare opportunity when the will of the people is swapped wholesale for a gubernatorial power trip. blagojevich had the sole authority to place whomever he wanted straight into the halls of the u.s. senate, and he was not shy about wanting a little something in return. with the fbi recording his phone calls, for the first time since nixon, the public was able to listen in on raw backroom politics, and there s nothing quite like hearing it from the horse s mouth. reporter: the criminal complaint quotes blagojevich as saying the senate seat was a valuable thing. you just don t give it away for nothing. another quote i ve got this thing, and it s bleeping golden. [blagojevich speaking] i ve got this thing, and it s [bleep] golden. -yeah. -[audience laughter] and i m not just giving it up for [bleep] nothing. [laughter] was there a second [bleep] in there? tapper: racking up a staggering 24 criminal charges, governor blagojevich s actions essentially boiled down to four things extortion, bribery, corruption, and wire fraud. and it wasn t just about the senate seat. blagojevich was also found guilty of extorting a children s hospital. you can t write this stuff. he s an arrogant punk who thinks that, you know, he s bulletproof. well, he s not. he was convicted on 18 total charges and sentenced to 14 years, the longest sentence ever handed down to a governor. people loathed blagojevich for the way he politicked, but was what he did so blatantly criminal? cause the truth is that the line between what s illegal and what s allowable is much murkier than we d like to think, and this is where the rod blagojevich story gets interesting. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing. [camera shutter clicks] was rod a corrupt politician or just a politician operating in a corrupt system that still thrives to this day? so, governor, thanks for doing this. thank you. so you ve been out of prison now for almost two years. a little over two years. and you re still very outspoken about how you feel like the case against you was unjust. there isn t really an argument about what you said. -right. -it s on tape. right. the question is whether it was illegal and whether it was morally wrong. look, if you re saying, do we have a fund-raising system in america that you can arguing is legalized bribery? i think there s truth to that. but did i do anything other than that standard that every other person in politics does, from president biden on down? i did the same as them and nothing worse. there is this real problem in american politics today where prosecutors are weaponizing themselves, criminalizing routine illegal practices in government politics, and i think it s wrong when they do it to bill clinton. it s wrong, i think, when they did it to president trump cause i have strong views on that, and i know it was wrong when they did it to me. okay, lot to unpack there. let s talk about the chicago and illinois system, because you re hardly the first governor in history, even in recent history, to to go to prison. what s the situation here that causes this to happen? well, i think it s time-honored here, and there s a long history in chicago politics, illinois politics, where pretty much everybody gets rich. ah, chicago politics. it s like going to a pay pond when you go fishing. like, if you are a prosecutor, you cannot be in illinois and not get something. illinois is steeped in a rich history of political corruption that dates back a century to the prohibition era, when bootlegging gangsters such as al capone bought off politicians and police departments, keeping them drunk on power and.also just drunk. in rod s lifetime, illinois has developed a rap sheet that any mobster would be proud of more than 1,700 convictions for corruption, including nearly 30 chicago aldermen, eight stage legislators, two u.s. congressmen, and before rod came onto the scene, three governors. in an odd way, the very people who should hate the idea of corruption are kind of proud that this is al capone s illinois. chicago is a wink and a nod town. -it s a shot and a beer town. -[clink] lot of it has to do with family relationships, because a lot of the political leadership in chicago and illinois are family-related. there s the daley family, the madigans. all of these families sort of become part of this mafia. -yeah. -a political mafia, and they re the ones who make the rules. i didn t come from that. i had to marry into it. i met a girl on the 6th of march, 1988. she was wearing a red dress, and she happened to be the daughter of an old-fashioned chicago political war boss. and she s my wife patti. we fell in love. patti blagojevich is a loyal wife, she is a tough customer, and she s the daughter of dick mell. she s complicated. that budding relationship between those two is how rod goes from this nobody politically, finding a way to kind of imbed himself into one of these big political families in chicago. they have so much power. i don t think it was, you know, some great surprise that, like, you know, when it comes time to meet the parents, that dick mell was the father-in-law and the the powerful city council chieftain. we re gonna try to work together to put this great city back together so that we re all part of it and we all feel free. dick mell was a guy who always had the voice in the backrooms. he was a power broker in that kind of chicago classic sense. before politics, it was a nice relationship, but for the most part, respectful. and then because i was in the family, and i was actually pretty good at helping her dad, local politics, knocking on doors and trying to get him votes, there was an opportunity to run for office. in rod blagojevich, mell could see a guy that eventually, if he does it right, i could sort of pass the mantle toward. rod was an immediate hit with illinois voters, who sent him first to the state house in 1992 and then to the u.s. congress in 1996. dick mell says, i can see you being governor. and i gotta be honest, i m sure if i m looking at it from dick mell s position, he s saying, man, if i can elect this guy governor, i can run the whole state. reporter: the campaign for illinois governor has gotten pretty lively. you ve got chicago congressman rod blagojevich. what s that name again? -bala-jo-vich. -reporter: bala-jo-vich, huh? -bala-jo-vich. -you sure? positive. tapper: during rod s 2002 governor s campaign, dick mell s membership in the old school chicago elite was a definite bonus, but it was rod s working class bonafides and people skills that did all the rest. coming from the family he did, he had a real working class chip on his shoulder, and his two heroes were elvis and richard nixon, both because they were guys who came from the wrong side of their tracks and fought their way up and were kind of disdained by the elites. in fact, if those two gritty 20th century icons fought their way into a single person, you might actually end up with rod blagojevich, for better and for worse. the rod blagojevich that i first met was youthful. he was energetic. he had this kind of mane of black hair that was super thick, and you could tell it was filled with hair product. the hair so iconic in its own right, that it became a comedy staple on every late night show. -the hair. -the hair. really, it looks like you re wearing a toupée that s also wearing a toupée. [audience laughter] he had a huge infatuation with elvis presley. his charisma was disarming. [cheers and applause] [amplified voice] thank you. thank you very much. [cheers, whistles, and applause] but the elvis of illinois was itching to lose his colonel parker, because despite the many benefits of dick mell s patronage, rod was still in his shadow. you know, he really became known as dick mell s son-in-law first. and i know he hated that. he didn t know how to both be his own man and not let dick mell foreshadow him. the only way for rod to survive outside of his father-in-law s machine was to create his own cash flow. so his first step was to hire two of chicago s most bare-knuckled political fund-raisers, chris kelly and tony rezko. chris kelly and tony rezko could generate big bucks. they were fund-raisers. they were donors. you know, let s just call em what they were. they were influence peddlers. they wound up being able to shake the bushes here and help rod raise money. they promised access and favors if blagojevich won, and they got results. where dick mell s good old boys would fetch $2,000 at a time, kelly and rezko would shake loose 50 grand. all that money plus rod s appeal to voters who had felt ignored by the entrenched chicago political dynasties well, it proved to be an unstoppable combination. he ran on some things that were uniquely important to black people. healthcare for kids is a good idea. when he said, free rides for seniors on public transportation, that resonated with black people specifically. blagojevich became governor in 2003. -congratulations, governor. -thank you. may god bless you. [cheers and applause] how do you view your your time as governor apart from the scandals? how do i say this in a way where i don t sound like a guy without any humility? but i truly believe i was a great governor. i can t think of any governor in my life that did anything for anybody i knew that can walk around and say, you know what? thank you, governor. my daughter had healthcare through you. free public transportation for seniors and the disabled? i did that cause they raised the sales tax, which hurts working people and poor people and seniors. with the legislature raising taxes that hit lower-income illinoisans hardest, and rod striking back with policies to offset that, it s no surprise that his populist agenda made him a lot of enemies amongst the big political families. to the people and the masses, he was on our team, and to the aristocracy and to the political elites, he was this guy that was taking their resources and giving em to the peasants, and so he became robin hood. i knew the reality that i m gonna have resistance from the old guard, the old ward bosses, the madigans, daley to some extent, my father-in-law, and so the goal was raise money now and raise a lot of it so that you can afford to make enemies, and you can afford to lose support. right, but some of these people that you were that you were relying on like chris kelly were were corrupt. -right? -turned out that chris had problems in his own personal business, and he was found guilty of those things. had nothing to do with me. but, like, a lot of the people in the world of fund-raising are not necessarily. -they are not. -.upstanding individuals. -no, they re not. -yeah. -no, they re not. what s the saying? ignorance is not a defense ? tony rezco and chris kelly they started compiling this list of different entities that were state contractors, and they hit all those people up for money, probably with rod s assistance. hey, you got a contract? you wanna keep it? or you want to get more? you gotta pony up. a lot of people in play have scalpel-like tendencies when they fund-raise, and rod was probably more of a meat cleaver. [beeping] -[telephone rings] -kelly and rezco were using government levers to squeeze anyone they could for a campaign contribution kickbacks like a cushy job or a fat contract, a little light extortion such as holding up teachers funds. they had deep pockets to fill and a financial machine to do it. you can t trade official actions as a governor in exchange for campaign contributions or jobs. i mean, there is one simple word for that. it s called graft. graft is simply the use of political power and authority in exchange for personal gain. to state the obvious, appointing unqualified people to state positions because you wanna use the government as a vending machine for your political campaign that s completely illegal. the m.o. was to make money from every state petitioner possible, and small-town hospital ceo pam davis looked like just another easy mark. but in this case, the whole shakedown process is recorded by the hospital executive who was getting shaken down. [laughs] woman: he needs to reset your wire. [laughs] oh, god, another wire. sorry for, uh. -i don t care. -just in here. uh, the governor really wasn t on my radar, um, at all until i experienced an extortion attempt through one of his, um, colleagues. pam s hospital system wanted to build a new facility in plainfield, illinois. seems pretty straightforward, but there were red flags right away when she went to get government approval for the project. davis: in my case, the governor had appointed individuals to this board who had either contributed money to his campaign, so they bought their way on, or individuals that were controlled by the governor and other individuals and would approve only those projects where a kickback was going to be given. turns out the board was willing to approve the hospital. all she had to do was use builders and lenders who were in their pocket and pad the contract so the board could take. let s call it a transaction fee for their trouble. it became clear to me that this was a major extortion attempt, and i was furious. so i called the fbi. the feds set her up with a wire so they could listen in on her meetings with board members and get the dirt straight from the source. she d be meeting with these players, and they would be basically laying out the whole scheme to her. davis: the contract would be padded, um, by roughly $10 million so that that money would go then to the various players. at one point, i decided, i wonder if this goes up to the governor, because the governor appoints these individuals to the various boards. the feds were wondering the same thing, and over the course of their investigation, their suspicions proved to be spot on. out of the public eye, rod s fund-raising goons, chris kelly and tony rezko, felt safe to strong-arm money from donors across illinois. but unbeknownst to them, the fbi was following their every move as part of a far-reaching corruption investigation into the blagojevich administration. as the money rolled in, their role in rod s administration only grew, which had his father-in-law, dick mell, feeling as though he d been served divorce papers. as dick mell famously said, he got replaced by a trophy wife or trophy wives. those were the people who were getting the love that he should have gotten and wasn t getting. we all know that you got here because of dick mell. rod says, i got my own team, and so don t talk to dick mell. not only does he not do what you wanna do, but he said, don t talk to my boss. i m the boss now. well, dick mell ain t feeling that, and dick mell is not the type to be like, so, may i talk to you privately? mell wears his heart on his sleeve, his anger on his sleeve. .leave me out! he can love you today, and if he starts hating you tomorrow, he can, you know, pull the switch just like that. and mell becomes more and more resentful of being cast aside, and so that fueled this tension in that family to the point where it eventually exploded. [explosion] that explosion came in 2005, and though it may not have aired on reality tv, it was still inextricably linked to garbage. rod blagojevich closed down this landfill which dick mell was a part owner of. rod said that this was for environmental issues. tapper: what did he want you to do? leave it alone, and i had learned that it was operating in violation of the environmental laws. i had knowledge of that. uh, ultimately, i decided i had a duty, that i had to shut it down, and then he made some accusations that really unleashed the furies. dick mell called a press conference and basically accused rod blagojevich of selling board and commission seats within state government. reporter: mell has had a falling out with his son-in-law, the governor. this is a family at war. so your father-in-law, dick mell, accused chris kelly of selling political favors for campaign contributions of $25,000 to $50,000 at a time. tell me about where were you when you heard that he was leveling this accusation. i remember vividly. it was early january of 2005, and this was the consequence of me shutting down his landfill. the very next day, he called a press conference, and he was clever enough to accuse chris kelly, not directly me, but that s me. i don t think he envisioned that it would turn into something that would ultimately land me in prison, but i know he did this to hurt me politically and cause me problems with the fbi. tapper: mel s allegations backed rod into a corner, giving the fbi room to prosecute his inner circle, until in 2008, the feds secured a secret wiretap on the governor himself. feeling the squeeze, rod started looking for some kind of escape route, and then a golden opportunity landed right in his lap. at this defining moment, change has come to america. [cheers and applause] now that senator barack obama is president-elect barack obama, someone will have to take over his senate seat. this is the governor s decision. uh, it is not my decision. the criteria that i would have for my successor would be the same criteria that i d have if i were a voter. senator obama becomes president obama. he resigns his senate seat. according to the law here in illinois, you as the governor get to name his replacement. now you re excited about this, and you say on tape, i d like to get the [bleep] out of here, and you re talking about options for yourself. does that mean, i d like to get the [bleep] out of here, you were sick of being governor? that s absolutely the things i was saying, of course, and i was looking at all kinds of options. so he attempted to trade obama s seat for a golden parachute. he begins to be heavily courted by all sorts of people who would love to be that u.s. senator. they saw something really valuable here a very valuable bargaining chip that could elevate his power in some way or or benefit them monetarily. when i said i wanted to get the eff out of here, it s because the fbi people and my persecutors were all over me, and it s the sort of thing, when that stuff s swirling around you, you know that stuff s swirling around you. -right. -and it s there. it s everywhere, and it and it was just very clear to me that they were determined to get me no matter what. i guess one question i have is knowing that they were looking at you, why did you talk about this stuff that way? look, i had 2,896 days in prison to ask myself a thousand questions, including that. but you know what? what s the alternative? i have all my staff and lawyers. we all go to saunas and get naked and talk to each other so nobody s got wires on em? -no, or -what s the alternative? or you just don t say anything, or you just say, like, this seat is very important, and we wanna make sure the best person gets it. and separately, i am thinking that i d like to not be governor of illinois anymore. well said. i don t make a habit of telling politicians how to avoid jail time, but here s the thing. being more cautious could have gotten rod everything he wanted and kept him out of prison, but caution is not really in rod s dna. [blagojevich speaking] [line disconnects] jackson: you know they taping you, so you can t say that out loud, right? breaking news the illinois governor charged with plotting to sell barack obama s former senate seat. reporter: illinois rod blagojevich was arrested tuesday morning by federal authorities and charged with corruption. dude. dude! dude. you know they trying to get you, dawg. but why? why? reporter: the day after being arrested on corruption charges, illinois governor rod blagojevich walked out of his house and headed back to work. -[camera shutter clicks] -tapper: all in all, rod blagojevich was facing 24 charges connected to four specific events the attempted sale of obama s senate seat, withholding legislation that would benefit a children s hospital and racetrack in an attempt to get political contributions, and the attempted extortion of a highway contractor. [amplified voice, chanting] 2, 3, 4, blago must go! i personally think he should at least step aside if not resign. my husband is an honest man, and i know that he s innocent. jackson: he thought that he had the moral high ground. i don t believe there s any cloud that hangs over me. -man: governor, governor -well, getting back to that, can we discuss your i think there s nothing but sunshine hanging over me. he didn t show any of the humility or anything. you just can t stick your finger in the eye of the federal government. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing, that i m confident that at the end of the day, i will be, uh, properly, uh, exonerated. [reporters speaking at once] i represented rod blagojevich in two of his criminal trials. i mean, he wanted to fight his case. he believed he was innocent, and he was working to that end to try and prove his innocence. anyone who believes that this was a selling of some senate seat doesn t understand politics. every single day in politics, that is what happens, is this horse-trading. and if you really listen to this in context, what you heard was talking with various people, getting annoyed, talking about nonsense, and then the end. nothing really that was ever acted on. later, rod blagojevich s lawyers would argue that what rod did specifically with the senate seat was no worse than when president eisenhower appointed earl warren as chief justice of the supreme court. back in 1952, dwight eisenhower s about to win the nomination to become the republican president. earl warren, the governor of california, is withholding the delegation s votes. governor warren tells eisenhower, i ll deliver the delegation for you on one condition. i wanna be the next chief justice of the supreme court. ike, the great war hero, shakes hands, says, you got a deal. he wins. one year later, earl warren is the chief justice of the united states supreme court. rod wanted a political appointment from obama, and for that, he was prepared to trade obama s old senate seat, which is actually legal. otherwise, eisenhower would have gone to jail, and americans would not have liked ike. do you see yourself as somebody who was just trying to function in perhaps an inherently corrupt but legal system, and that theoretically almost any politician could be snagged the way you were? absolutely. of course i do, except i m giving me higher marks. because i was using that money that that and that power gave me to fight an established system that served itself on the backs of the people, and when you do that, you piss a lot of people off, and they wanna get rid of you. but do you think that you re earthier about it? like, more outspoken about it? well, i wasn t hiding any of it, but these because it s legal, and that s how you govern. abraham lincoln was able to get the 13th amendment passed at congress, which ratified the emancipation proclamation, freeing slaves. he had to make political deals with members of congress to get the votes to pass it. -that s how you get things done. -you re not comparing yourself to abraham lincoln. -by no means. -okay. -and please say that. i m not comparing myself to abraham lincoln. you re not or the emancipation proclamation. okay, right. he s a lot taller than me, and i never did anything as great as that, of course not. -but you re also not talking about the i mean, the emancipation proclamation of course i m not. governor blagojevich tried to sell the appointment to the senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. the conduct would make lincoln roll over in his grave. you re very critical of pat fitzgerald. yeah, he s an evil guy. he s a wicked guy. he s a scoundrel, and he deserves to get an ass kicking. you know? and he s a big coward. anyway, go ahead. sorry. well, i think he would take issue with everything you just said. you know, he has a reputation for being the choirboy, for being, you know, an upstanding, moral person. he sees himself as, i am trying to uphold some basic standards for our politicians. that s how he views it. governor blagojevich has been arrested in the middle of what we can only describe as a political corruption crime spree. we had a political and public narrative that we had to overcome, and when the entire potential jury pool believes that your client is guilty before they ve even heard the evidence, you re going into the trial like if it s a basketball game, you re losing 100 to nothing. or it s like if you re a governor, and you re getting impeached 114 to 1, and the lone vote in rod s favor his sister-in-law, deb mell. done from office and eager to prove he was not a crook, rod knew exactly where to plead his case. please welcome to the program governor rod blagojevich! [applause] you are a charming dude with the best set of hair i ve ever [bleep] seen. [audience laughter] so i want this to be real. got some challenges ahead, but, uh, i m gonna trust in the truth and as it says in the bible, the truth shall set you free. rod blagojevich just.kept.talking. how are you? you wanna get on tv? come on in. i think he was able to warm himself a little bit with the public. better to be seen as a klutz than a crook. sure, everyone loves a good laugh, but oversaturating the talk show circuit may have had unintended consequences, as david letterman told rod when he appeared on the late show in 2009. the more you talked and the more you repeated your innocence, the more i said to myself, oh, this guy s guilty. [laughter] so during the period from your impeachment to your trial and your sentencing, you did a lot of media appearances. what was the strategy behind that? my feeling was like, look, i didn t do any of that stuff, and what does somebody do who s being lied about? but you have a tremendous desire to get out at the highest mountain and yell out, i didn t do it. well, letterman said that the louder you yelled it, the more it made him think you were guilty. yeah. yeah, i mean, i didn t i didn t convince him, but, uh, i think i convinced donald trump. that s why i got invited on celebrity apprentice, right? i have great respect for your tenacity, for the fact that you just don t give up. but, rod.you re fired. what i saw over the course of rod s career was a guy who started off as kind of a charming rogue and a guy who really did give voice to concerns that people had to someone who became almost a parody of himself. and by the time that trial came around, he really was his own worst enemy. see you in court. he thought that the court of public opinion could save him, but he had disturbed forces that decided, it was a wrap for you, dude. don t poke the feds, fam. just don t do it. man: blago, can i get your autograph? reporter: at verdict today, in a notorious case that federal prosecutors did not want to hear, rod blagojevich was convicted today on only one count. -see you guys! -man: way to go, baby! tapper: the jury was hung on all but one of the charges against blagojevich, and without unanimous consent, the result was a mistrial on the remaining 23 charges. the jury, like a lot of people to this day, just could not agree on whether what he d done was actually illegal. in that first trial, the jury deadlocked on everything except for lying to the fbi. -right. you were convicted of lying to the fbi. -right. -do you acknowledge that you lied to the fbi? -no. no. i don t. i ll tell you about that. it was about how much of your associates that were fund-raising for you, the degree to which you knew what you were doing. yeah, it was the issue was i said, i didn t, as a practice, track fund-raising. and who got contracts? i didn t. i didn t look into who got contracts. i wasn t interested in that. i had 27,000 contributors. i wasn t tracking who gave me money, who got what. the first trial was too confusing for the jury, and they had a lot of paper documents. it was a lot of witness testimony. man: governor, are you anxious for this to begin? i feel great. absolutely. what the government did in the second trial is they pared down their their case, and they believed that everything was in the tapes and they needed to make this trial a lot simpler. [blagojevich speaking] he was swearing a lot. .and upset and not appreciative of the position that he had. and i think that was more influential in the jury s decision than than anything. it made him look bad. breaking news right now the jury has reached a decision, convicting blagojevich on 17 counts of corruption. -reporter: wire fraud. -bribery. blitzer: attempted extortion. solicitation of a bribe. blitzer: racketeering. conspiracy to commit bribery and conspiracy to commit extortion. rod blagojevich was convicted on almost all counts and sentenced to 14 years. patti and i are obviously very disappointed, uh, in the outcome. i, frankly, am am stunned. when did you realize, oh, shit, i might actually be going to prison ? -from the beginning. -really? -i knew i was a dead man. -really? -yeah. -why? cause they have so much power and resources, and i, you know, wasn t really surprised when i got 14 years. the justification for the judge was, you treated this like a golden glove boxing match, but those corrupt liars are lucky dueling is outlawed, cause i d have challenged them to a duel. rapists and murderers get so much less time? that s why this system is so wrong and so broken. let me offer you an alternate theory. sure. my alternate theory is that the entire system of justice that we have in this country depends on prosecutors and police who are incentivized to get convictions. -mm-hmm. -period. what do you think of that? well, i think you re almost right. [laughs] i never took a penny. no one says i did. i keep saying that cause that s so important to me. i don t want people to think that i was some one of these corrupt politicians that was taking cash. tapper: but remember, even though he never actually got that envelope full of money, that was because the feds closed in before the senate deal was done. the offers being considered, campaign contributions or a lucrative job in a nonprofit, the fact of accepting them that would have been simply illegal, hence, the charge of conspiracy to commit bribery, which he was definitely guilty of. rod s argument is no cash changed hands, but prior to that, there had been plenty of money changing hands. there s ample evidence these government positions, these government contracts they were effectively for sale. it does not matter if rod blagojevich actually won the argument and got the money or the donations he was seeking. it s the ask. if something goofs it up, but the burglary or robbery s interrupted, it doesn t make it less of an intended burglary or robbery, right? he had his day in court. that 14 years was what the system gave him. so you went to prison for almost eight years? 2,896 days. and let me tell ya what gets you through prison when you have to face something like that. it s love and it s faith love for my daughters and my wife. you know, when i was arrested, within days, the vegas oddsmakers had it 9 to 1 that she was leaving. so in that sense, i ve been so lucky and blessed. after he was sent to prison, patti proclaimed his innocence, and she did try and go to any leader that she could find to have him either pardoned or commuted. and when all else failed, patti blagojevich knew exactly who to appeal to next. after rod goes to prison, patti was essential in keeping their life together. more than anything else, maybe, she got in donald trump s ear. trump had a connection with blagojevich cause rod was on the apprentice, and patti blagojevich was on fox news every day. you know, we know that president trump is a kind man, and he s compassionate. he s always been kind to my family. and when you speak on fox news, you have a direct connection with donald trump. today the president sprung from prison former illinois governor rod blagojevich, who was convicted after attempting his own quid pro quo. yes, uh, we have commuted the sentence of rod. i watched his wife on television. quote, um, i watched his wife on television. -yes. -end quote. how did how did that happen? i think he just saw he he would tell me he liked the fact that i was fighting back. i remember him saying something like, uh, you know, i have friends that go through what you re going through, and they re in a corner. they can t even move, and you re out there throwing punches. i think he liked that. i m so grateful to him. sometimes things happen in life where god intervenes in the most unbelievable ways. trump, blagojevich, fox news? i m not sure how much god played a role in any of this. when rod came home from prison after eight years, his daughters had grown up. how are your relationships with them? they re good. i m i m getting to know them. our family was broken for a long time. the difficulties that i talked about with my father-in-law, those were heartbreaking, because in spite of everything, i love him, and he s been good to me in so many ways. and, uh, you know, it s been a tough road for my wife. our lives could have been so much simpler, so much better. understandably, rod looks back on the time away from his family with regret, not for what he did, of course, but that he was sent to prison in the first place. but what else would you expect from rod? i am a political prisoner. i was put in prison for practicing politics. wait a minute. you re a political prisoner? nelson mandela was a political prisoner. political prisoners have no due process. i was thrown in prison and spent nearly eight years in prison for practicing politics, for seeking campaign contributions without a quid pro quo. you do have an obligation to at least admit what you did wrong, and you refuse to do that, and you re creating a whole new alternate universe of facts, and that may be big in politics today, but it s still, frankly, just bullshit. a reporter, uh, asked you if you wanted to say sorry to the people of illinois, and you said, sorry for what? -do you still feel that way? -very much so. i ve done a lot wrong. criminal? none. you and your defenders argue that the persecution, prosecution of you is about the criminalization of politics. in other words, there is horse-trading that goes on in politics. you do me this favor. i ll do you this favor, and that s all you were doing, and that it s legal, but they made it out to be illegal. well, first of all, it s not illegal. now you can argue whether we should improve our laws. that s a valid thing. i would think there s a lot of room to improve the fund-raising laws, but that s not illegal at all, and it s a common practice. now ultimately, after i ve been in prison for four years, the appellate court reverses that big lie of the sale of the senate seat, and they said it s routine political logrolling. and look, that s partially true. the court did vacate the conviction related to obama s senate seat, but they never said he did nothing wrong. the court said there was a jury instruction issue, and they upheld the remaining 13 counts. so contrary to his claim, he has not been exonerated. and for the love of elvis, we can only hope that rod s crimes are not routine. if there is a big lie, it s that he s a victim, especially since every other charge was upheld, including the extortion of a children s hospital. gandhi, he ain t. this isn t some sort of mystery, that, gosh, i didn t know. i had no idea. it s so gray. really? i think most of us have some gut sense of when we re beginning to get in trouble. i don t believe blagojevich has ever done any reflection on right and wrong. extorting a hospital never occurred to him that that might harm the citizens that he was elected to protect. he he has no ability to look at anything but himself. that s it. that s it. what s the worst thing that can be said about you that s accurate in your view, other than you were stupid to say that stuff? sure. look, i ve been accused of being a narcissist. i might plead to a misdemeanor on that, okay? um, i think i my judgment of some people was way off. i think i should have been a lot more vigilant and see some of the warning signs. i knew they were aggressively out there raising money, and i didn t slow it down because i wanted to raise the campaign money. i could have been more vigilant on that in retrospect. close, but no cigar. whether or not rod trusted the wrong people, he set them loose on illinois because they brought him the most money. whether the rules on political fund-raising are flimsy guardrails at best,
Can t be counted now all of a sudden, trump has a statement released on tuesday whether you vote absentee, by mail, early in person or on election day we re going to protect the vote. we ll make sure your ballot is secure and your voice is heard. we must swamp the radical democrats with massive turn out. donald trump talking republican voters to vote by mail. it s like reality of how you win an election is slowly dawning on the republican party. i actually think this is an under covered story. how much chaos there is in republican party ranks over these basic questions of can you use drop boxes, do you gather votes. how do we feel about mail in voting. the significance of the criminal charges now against the fake electors in wisconsin is going to focus attention on the attempt to steal the election but also i think it s going to highlight again how divided republicans are about this. i mean this is torn apart the republican party in wisconsin. with the demands of trump world, that they continue to
To fill macron s attempt to do what sean hannity also failed to do the night before, namely get donald trump to stop talking so openly about seeking revenge. it hasn t worked. and just yesterday, the former president also called for members of the house january 6 committee to be indicted. reaction. it appears to his former strategist, steve bannon being ordered to prison for defying a lot awful subpoena from that committee. the same steve bannon who received a presidential pardon while being accused of bilking money from trump s supporters, claiming it would go to build a wall on the border during the final days of the trump administration. situation, president biden by contrast, just reaffirmed a commitment not to pardon his only surviving son, hunter, who is on trial on gun charges in his tribute to the army rangers today, president biden also invoked vladimir putin s aggression and nieto s joint response they stood against settlers aggression does anyone doubt does anyone doubt that they would want america to stand up against putin s aggression here in europe today? they stormed the
Critical race theory, transgender ideology in their schools. we probably spotlight to it. we have rhinos here in the state that have partnered with the teachers union to say no, we want to go back to a time where there those things were hidden. we don t want the state superintendent being the voice for parents. trace, we ve been rhino hunting in oklahoma and now those rhinos have come together to work with the teachers union to try to silence me and my agency. we are going to stay quiet, we will always be a voice for parents, not in the state of oklahoma will we allow their voices to be silenced. trace: very quickly, even the governor agrees you can t just target certain departments. it s obvious what they are doing and that s where again they want to silence the voice of parents. you see this with president trump too, they are censoring me, president trump, it s really an attempt to silence conservative americans. we will not back down. trace: oklahoma school superintendent ryan walters,
Democrats with massive turnout. donald trump encouraging republican voters to vote by mail. it is like reality of how you win a election is slowly dawning on the republican party. i actually think this is a significant undercover story. how much chaos there is in republican party ranks over the basic questions. how do we feel about mail in voting? the criminal charges against the fake electors in wisconsin will focus attention on the attempt to steal the election, but also, it will highlight again how divided republicans are about this. this has torn apart the republican party in wisconsin. all of that has been revived. it is hard to predict whether this helpsline or the democrats but i do think at least, let s
Issue one side thinks that the other side is a threat to democracy. both sides think the other is a threat to democracy. so it s somewhat cuts both ways in the minds of many in the public and the pull numbers show that when you look at the democracy numbers, congressman charlie dent, we appreciate your time. thank you thank you, your honor out front next, some democrats who were leaning towards donald trump, that s right democrats leaning towards donald trump are now having second thoughts after the former president was convicted in new york, i m going to talk to one of those voters next plus an emotional day in court in the hunter biden gun trial, his daughter, trembling as he testified, hunter biden wiping away tears, what she told the jury and career government officials, walking away from their jobs because of what they claim is an attempt to to downplay the 4s in gaza sleep sealed the sheiks difference is real from the light to the