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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:13:00

on people who insist on making themselves and others sick? the question now is with the fda approval and the wave of mandates, will that make the difference? let's take it to a better mind. former fda commissioner under trump, dr. steven hahn. good to see you back, doc. >> hi, chris. thanks for having me. >> fda approval. do you believe this could be something that creates a massive catalyst among people who haven't been vaccinated to date? >> chris, it's a really important day in our fight against covid-19. i don't know about the word "massive," chris, but i certainly hope for those who have been waiting for this full approval that this is the impetus for them to get vaccinated. we have clear evidence of the safety and effectiveness of the pfizer/biontech vaccine. it's undergone full approval and full vetting by the gold standard, the u.s. fda. >> you used full there twice. the hate parade is already marching and saying they took

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-01:37:00

a mobile clinic or free child care. that's one of the best things on there. he's the thing about the full fda approval. what it does is gets those people who are thinking about getting the vaccination much more likely to get it. if you wanted to vax as soon as possible, 79% say it's more likely to get the vaccination. 49% say they'll wait and see how it works of the even 30% who said they'd only get it if forced makes them more likely. so it's really about pushing those people over the edge thinking of getting it to actually get the vaccine. >> so you think it takes a carrot and stick. >> that's exactly right. if we were to team this up with a vaccine mandate, what do we do? number one, by giving this full approval that makes vaccine mandates much more likely. more than that, if in fact let's say you say, okay, we're going to have this full fda approval and employers basically say you have to in fact get vaccinated if you want to work there, look at that, 51% of unvaccinated

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:08:00

vaccine, that's discriminatory. legal tests of this will come. it will be shocking if a private business is not allowed to have their employees be vaccinated. and the idea that insisting that you be protected is unfair to the unvaccinated, unless you are immune compromised, not getting vaccinated is what is unfair to the people in your family, your job, and anywhere you go. this is on you, not your employer. the pentagon also announced earlier that all u.s. service members will now be required to get immunized. why? because sick people are weak people. and if that happens in the military, a mass contagion, that could have national security implications. so where are we? take a look. we're averaging nearly 150,000 new cases a day. deaths are up to almost 1,000 a day.

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:01:00

that's all i'm concerned about. i think it is time where god is separating the sheeps from the goats. >> reporter: what are you? >> i'm a goat because i ain't a sheep. i'm not doing what they tell me to do. i'm fighting against it. >> donie o'sullivan joins us now. do you think that the former president saying that he got the shot, although you said it was timid, nevertheless he did say it. do you think it convinced anyone? >> reporter: no, it didn't seem like that, anderson. i think that is something that trump knows. we know trump likes to take credit for things and he can in many respects take credit for the development of this vaccine, but he knows that so many in his base do not want to take this shot. it is a red line for them. and it's really remarkable to hear, you know, so many folks we've spoken to do not want to be as that woman described it a sheep. they don't want to take this vaccine. they view it as a political statement almost.

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:43:00

what it does is gets those people who are thinking about getting the vaccination much more likely to get it. if you wanted to vax as soon as possible, 79% say it's more likely to get the vaccination. 49% say they'll wait and see how it works of the even 30% who said they'd only get it if forced makes them more likely. so it's really about pushing those people over the edge thinking of getting it to actually get the vaccine. >> so you think it takes a carrot and stick. >> that's exactly right. if we were to team this up with a vaccine mandate, what do we do? number one, by giving this full approval that makes vaccine mandates much more likely. more than that, if in fact let's say you say, okay, we're going to have this full fda approval and employers basically say you have to in fact get vaccinated if you want to work there, look at that, 51% of unvaccinated workers say they will get the vaccine or more likely to get it. just 43% say no and they'll quit their job.

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:15:00

why? >> well, the original trial was in 16 and over, so we have data that's at least six months in terms of safety, which is the requirement that the fda has. the folks who went through the trial had to have six months of follow-up safety data. we just recently saw the emergency use authorization for 12 to 15, so we have to wait a little bit more time to collect additional safety data. chris, there's no reason to believe that it won't be as safe in that group as it is in 16 and older. we have to wait for the data to be complete. >> what do you say to those in right-wing media saying this deworming drug, this could do the trick. >> which drug, chris? >> ivermectin, the deworming drug. >> right. we've seen this before. it's ironic, chris, a drug that is indeed approved by the fda for certain infections but for which there's pretty good data to suggest it does not work against covid-19 and would not be recommended by any medical professional, that that would be chosen over a vaccine that's

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:14:00

shortcuts. this isn't real approval. they hedged it just to make you take it. do you believe any of that? >> no, i don't, chris. we heard from the fda today that the application for the pfizer/biontech, biological application license for full approval was over 300,000 pages. the fda career staff went through it, they did the number crunching, they know. so not only was this data in the clinical trial that was performed, but we have over several hundred million people around the world vaccinated with this vaccine. what does that tell you? that tells you that we have more data about efficacy and safety than almost any other vaccine in the history of vaccination. the data are clear. the fda has spoken. the vaccine is safe and effective. >> why isn't pfizer approved for 12 to 15? it's still under an emergency use authorization for 12 to 15, but is approved 16 and up.

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-01:07:00

they need adults, they are dependent on adults to step up. how long must all lives be stilted at home and work waiting on people who insist on making themselves and others sick? the question now is with the fda approval and the wave of mandates, will that make the difference? let's take it to a better mind. former fda commissioner under trump, dr. steven hahn. good to see you back, doc. >> hi, chris. thanks for having me. >> fda approval. do you believe this could be something that creates a massive catalyst among people who haven't been vaccinated to date? >> chris, it's a really important day in our fight against covid-19. i don't know about the word "massive," chris, but i certainly hope for those who have been waiting for this full approval that this is the impetus for them to get vaccinated. we have clear evidence of the safety and effectiveness of the pfizer/biontech vaccine. it's undergone full approval and

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Cuomo Prime Time-20210824-05:11:00

prevent covid. it doesn't work. at least two people have been hospitalized in mississippi after taking ivermectin. it is a dewormer. it's not a covid cure. please don't take it. the state's health department put out a warning saying animal drugs are highly concentrated for large animals and can be highly toxic in humans. and they should have said, and i don't know why they didn't. and this drug is not for covid. i wonder if politics played into even that? the state's poison control center has been receiving an increasing number of calls in relation to this. why? because somewhere on the righty fringe, they said this will do it. forget about the vaccine. look, people are literally insisting on making themselves sick. it is like a bad movie that we're all trapped in. yes, this country is divided. those who tell you otherwise, i don't get it, but they're wrong.

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