quick final note on what donald trump jr. told laura ingraham today. we mentioned it in our report on the administration shifting story on the trump tower meeting in 2016. you heard donald junior get caught off when asked about his contradictory stories. here s what he said when he called back. they started playing the recording and then it got cut off. it was a 20-minute meeting. tended up being about essentially nothing that was relevant to any of these things. and, you know, that s all it is. should have played that right after we aired the first part. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris cuomo. cuomo prime time starts right now. happy to use our time to get the record straight, anderson. always good to see you. i m brushing my hair just like you. that s what you get for wearing my suit. i am chris cuomo. welcome to prime time. rosie o donnell has reportedly gathered hundreds at the white house for a musical protest. but this ain t smiles and show tunes. she is spoiling for a fight. her history with trump is as long as it is ugly, and she is here to make her case to you. the president is not in the white house, but he may once again be watching prime time, and if so, the invitation stands. listen to rosie or not and come on to this show and make your case to this smart and concerned audience, sir. and it would be good for the president to explain his latest apparent admission by tweet. now trump says that trump tower meeting with a russian operative was about getting dirt on clinton. remember, that s not what he wrote about that meeting. what will it mean to investigators? and the white house says it is reimposing sanctions on iran. why now? what changed? what are the risks? we have all the factors laid out for you, and i have a new do. it s monday. let s get after it. did you know that there has been a nightly protest at the white house every day since trump s meeting with vladimir putin in helsinki? well, there is, and you re going to hear about it now because longtime actress and longtime thorn in donald trump s side rosie o donnell joined the mix and brought all of these stars from broadway with her. why? let s find out. rosie o donnell, thank you for being on cuomo prime time. thanks for having me, chris. so you re down there in the nation s capital. it s being billed as a party with a purpose. what is the purpose? the purpose is to remind people of the truth that lives inside them so that when they re so confused and lied to by our president and this administration, they re able to find that thing about america that they love and that s true and that s real and remember that feeling and hold on to that feeling as we go through these next very tumultuous weeks, as we lead up to the election and the mueller report finally coming out, that it s going to be very loud, and it s going to be very crazy. and we all have to remain focused and centered on the truth. is it just good vibes that you re spreading there, or do you have a message of what you want to happen with this president? well, i think most of america wants him to be out although you can t tell that from reading some of the you know, watching fox news or whatnot, which is just like state-run tv in russia at this point. so all we have to do is encourage people to show up, to protest, to use their voice to save democracy. we ve got just a couple months till november, and till then we have to fight with everything we got because if somehow they re able to rig the elections again, as i believe they did in 2016, then we re going to all be in trouble as democracy dies right here on our watch. well, one step at a time. the russian interference is a known fact. the impact on the election is not a known fact. you believe the actual outcome well was rigged or just that there were efforts? yes. no, i do believe it was rigged. i don t believe it was efforts. and if you listen to all of our mainstream intelligence people, they believe it too. they don t believe votes were changed. well, i do believe that there were exact well, you know the facts, right? yes. you know the facts. what do i think? did they come in there and make trump win when every single exit poll and every person in america knew for sure that hillary clinton was going to win? do you think there was anything to do with russia or just a real big swirl for donald trump in these specific areas with the same exact amount of votes that were needed? i don t know. it looks very hinky to me. here s why i ask you about what this is about because let s say you win. let s say the democrats win. you get the house. probably not the senate, but you get the house. there s a call for impeachment among progressives like yourself. yes. two things happen. well, i don t think it s just progressives, chris. there will be a call for impeachment from all those not heard, who are the majority in america. okay. i give you that fact. i ll stipulate to it for the point of this argument. okay. so everybody calls out. you don t have the votes. it doesn t happen. you galvanize support for the president, and we are torn more apart in this country. are you worried about that outcome? no, i am not. i am believing in the american people. i believe in this country. i believe in what it was founded on. i believe in the constitution. i think that on election day, we re going to show up in a huge way, in a way that we haven t ever seen before in the united states. and people have just really had enough. they ve had enough of a president who separates families and puts babies in cages. you know all of the catch phrases. every day he does something worse than the day before, and he tops it and tops it and tops it. i believe that trump is loathed in america, that people are embarrassed and ashamed of who he is, and that come election day, we re going to stand up at the polls and let him know. and unless he goes in and has the russians kind of fix it like he did last time in 2016, you know, we re going to see him gone. and that s what i m waiting and hoping for and hoping that people across the country are inspired to use their own voice in whatever way to get people to know that this country is worth fighting for. amen on that. the more people get involved, the higher the voter percentage is, the more people will get what they want. it will reduce the effects of money on politics. it will make everything better, not perfect, but better. so i m all with you. the more people go out and vote their conscience, the better, whatever their conscience is. here s my other concern. yeah. there is reason to criticize the president. i am not going to fight you on that point. however, for the democrats to come into mainstream power, so that means that they have what the republicans have right now, the house, the senate, the white house, i think history suggests you have to be more than anti. you have to be pro things. you have to give people a reason to believe. you have to give them some type of sense that captures their imagination and gives them hope. what is that for democrats where they can say not just he s a liar, he s a bad guy, but here s how we ll make the economy even better, which is hard given the numbers. that we ll be even safer than we are because that s what people will be looking to. well, when you report the economy, you report how it affects the top 1%, or you report how it affects everyone. the economy is doing good if you re a multi-billionaire. it s not doing good and the tax cuts didn t do good for the average american. so i don t believe that the economy is thriving with the metrics that you guys are using. but the fact of the matter is he s not only bad because he s a liar. he s bad because he doesn t know how to inspire people or invoke that emotion in them of truth d and what about his rallies? first of all, people are paid, chris. you know that. people were paid since he went down on the escalator. he pays people to show up at those rallies. that is a fact. but i don t know that that s why he gets tens of thousands at the rallies. i thunk he captures a lot of motion for people. when did he get tens of thousands at the last ral lay? tell me when? at the tampa i think they only had 9,000 seats and there were people outside, but rosie, i ve seen him. he gets big groups of people who come out. he gives themes that resonate. whatever they re positive or not, that s up to people to decide. i don t have the facts that his crowds are bought off. but you can look at well, you can look at all the requests for extras to come and cheer with signs for him. you can find those tangible pieces of evidence. those are not real rallies. you know, when he went down on that escalator, he paid all those people there, calling rapists and mexicans rapists. this is not real what he s doing even though he keeps screaming that you guys are not real. i know he does that. i know he does that, rosie, but listen. look, i ve known you a long time. you ve known my family a long time. i know your mom. and mom would be the first one to say, let him say what he s going to say. you say what you know is true. you always keep your dignity. you always fight the good fight. so that s what we do. when he came down that escalator, did i see the reporting that there were paid people there? yes, i did. did i believe it? yes, i did. have i seen it at all of these rallies? no, so i m not going to do what the president does. i m not going to say they re all bought off, they re all fake, because i think that s b.s. i don t think it s true, and i m not going to play to it just because i think it s satisfying. but you could do the evidence to find out. sure. we do it all the time. lead with that story before you play his rally. to play his rally to me is just falling into his hands. i don t play his rallies. i do truth check every night. i do magic walls. i find all these different devices because i want people to know what s real and then they can act on it. that s why i m talking to you because people need to know what you re doing, know where people s voices are, and then they can make their decisions about which side to join and hopefully there s common ground that gets here sooner rather than later. i hope there is common ground. people ask me all the time, your son s a marine. how can you have a son whose a marine when you re such a pass fist kind of a person? i love and respect my son, and i can hold two opposing thoughts in my head at one time. one is i m terrified something is going to happen to him, and the other is i m so immensely proud of the commitment he has given to this country because he believes in this country the same way that i do. i believe in america and what it stands for in the constitution, and this president and administration has done everything they can to undermine it. and it s not okay. it s not all right in any way, and we have to use our voices and fight. you do exactly that. that s why good men and women like your son are fighting for our freedoms. and when somebody serves in a family, the whole family feels it. the whole family sacrifices. so thank you to your entire clan for the dedication to the country. thank you. and the service of your son. thank you, chris cuomo. peace. let s see. we ll be following what happens at the white house, and we ll see what the impact of this party with a purpose is all about tonight. now, back to another big story for you. they told us that the meeting in trump tower with the russian operative was about adoption. you remember that? the whole statement that they wrote, the president had no role in. well, we know that s not true, and now we have the president apparently admitting something that s even more important. cuomo s court is in session, and you need to weigh in. there are the counselors, next. stadium pa : all military members stand and be recognized. sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that s why we re providing half off family lines to all military. crisp leaves of lettuce. freshly made dressing. clean food that looks this good. delivered to your desk. Chris Cuomo asks the tough questions to newsmakers in Washington and around the world. or if you forgot your bike was on the roof rack, you only pay one deductible -instead of two- for a claim involving both your auto and home. and when you save that much, it s almost like it. never even happened. that s auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. a lot of paints say ordinthey can do the job,ver. but just one can behr through it all. behr premium plus, a top rated interior paint at a great price. family friendly, disaster proof. find it exclusively at the home depot. all right. cuomo s court is in session. here is the new fact. there seems to be another crown prosecutor friend or whoever these people were reaching out. they weren t soliciting, but they did go to the meeting. and the question is what happened afterwards? and there are some strange coincidences when you look at the indictment, the dates that are in there and other things that we know happened subsequent to that meeting. but i ll let my colleague make his case and then respond. he s smiling wide. but add this to the mix for yourself, professor. one step farther than asha wants to go. if it s illegal to solicit and you find out that someone has dirt for you and you know what kind of person it is, and you go there to get it, why isn t that soliciting? and then what do you make of this in context? well, first of all, it may very well be soliciting, and it may very well be a thing of value. the problem is it would be unconstitutional for a statute to prohibit a candidate from obtaining information from any source whatsoever. just like the new york times can t be prohibits from obtaining information or chris cuomo can t be prohibited from obtaining information, even if the information you have was stolen, even if you know it was given to you by manning or snowden, or daniel ellsberg. the constitution requires an open marketplace of ideas. and you cannot construe a statute that was intended to prevent financial contributions largely to apply to information, to apply to facts, to apply to news. that would be unconstitutional. so you re hitting her with the pong papentagon papers defe. you re saying that opposition research, dirt on clinton, is information just like if it came to me, asha, and therefore it doesn t qualify under this statute. absolutely. this is a false analogy, chris. first of all, political campaigns are not news organizations, and here the key word in what professor dershowitz just said is the open marketplace of ideas. when you have something happening surreptitiously, under the table, secretly, that is not an open marketplace of ideas. now, if the trump campaign went on tv and said, hey, the russian government just gave us all this stolen information and told the voters that, that would be one thing. i still think it would be a crime, but at least they re being transparent. when they are concealing the source of that, that is exactly what our open society is meant to prevent. we want people to evaluate information in context. and just to bring this back to the framers of the constitution, they were worried about two things, chris. they were worried about foreign influence and self-dealing. this is why we have a natural born citizen requirement. we want, you know, loyalty. we don t want influence from outside. this is the federalist papers 68 where hamilton warns of foreign governments trying to infiltrate our elections. so i completely disagree that this is permissible as some kiekind of first amendment right. professor. the statute itself clearly is intended to cover financial contributions. it s always been applied that way. it has never been construed or interpreted then why didn t they say that? why didn t they say what? money. well, they did. they said something of value. right. but why didn t they say money? but you have to construe a let me be even more specific. even if they intended to cover this, they can t cover it because it could be unconstitutional. you cannot regulate ideas. the federal government simply doesn t have the power under the first amendment to prohibit a candidate remember, a candidate is also expressing first amendment views. he has exactly the same status as the new york times and as you do. he has the right or she has the right to use any information from any source, and it doesn t matter whether it s a foreign or domestic source, and that s why to construe an ambiguous statute that way would violate the first amendment. and the first rule of constitutional construction is if you have a statute that s capable of being construed in two different ways, you must always construe it constitutionally consistent with the first amendment. i hear the arguments on either side, but there s something else going on here. lying, okay? there is lying going on here, professor. there was lying going on about what we were told about this meeting. the statement that was done about it. the president s role in it. and then even when that statement was written, it was deceptive about what actually happened in the meeting, and that seems to be clear on the face of this tweet, asha. so even if it isn t illegal, what does this mean to investigators in terms of looking at a pattern of behavior of how this then-candidate, now-president treated these types of issues? it means that they believe that they were doing something wrong, period. that is why people lie. i mean you know that from being a parent and watching your 5-year-old. you know, one thing, let s just assume arguendo as we would say in legalese, that these are crimes and that, you know, they did agree, and there is, say, a conspiracy. there s an affirmative defense in conspiracy where if you renounce the conspiracy, you say actually, i don t want to do this anymore or i don t want to have anything to do with this, that can be your defense. and, chris, i think it s important for viewers to remember that in august of 2016, the fbi went and warned the trump campaign that russia was trying to infiltrate their campaigns and influence the elections. and at that point, that was the time for every single person who had these sketchy contacts to come forward and say, you know what, that s kind of funny because, you know, two random russians showed up in trump tower. that could have been a defense, and yet at every turn they have chosen to lie, conceal, deflect, and cover up every contact that they ve had, not just these three people in the meeting, but everyone else associated with the campaign. what you re doing final quick word, professor. what you re doing is what so many people do. you re conflating bad conduct with criminal conduct. this may be bad conduct. lying is not a good thing if there was lying here. but to turn this into a crime, imagine if hillary clinton were elected president, and she were being investigated, and these were the charges. every civil libertarian would be up in arms talking about the first amendment, talking about the right of association, talking about all of these rights. but a double standard is being applied depending on which shoe the foot is on, and that s very inconsistent with the due process of law and we re dealing with the cards in front of us right now. as we all know that s right. lying is is a problem. it is a political problem. it is not a legal problem. maybe so, but it s a problem nonetheless. you cannot turn tweets it s a problem. i m not here to defend anybody s problem. it s a problem. not every problem has to be a crime in order to matter. that s the flip side of your argument. but i got to go, professor. that s what i ve been saying for two years. that not every problem is a crime. that s all i m saying. right. but it doesn t have to be a crime to be a problem. that s the flip. thank you as always. got to go. tough sanctions on iran are about to go into effect tonight at midnight. that s how urgent it is. why? is your spidey sense going off here? why now? this seems a little strange. i agree with you. i feel you on this. why is it happening right now? i m going to tell you what the administration says. we re going to look at whether or not it s true that allies may be in with us on this. is that all true? facts, next. a place with 24-hour fvalet servicee and a boutique salon a place with all day arts and crafts it even has a day spa a place that s so much like home, because well. it is home home instead senior care when you need personalized care in the comfort of home. you might or joints.hing for your heart. but do you take thing for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfis prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. comcast, building america s largest gig-speed network. all right. at midnight eastern tonight the trump administration is going to restore sanctions on iran that had been lifted under the 2015 nuclear accord. why now? okay? 2015 deal, may 8th is when the president stepped away from this. that s 90 days. 90 days. why now? that s how long he had to do this. co-have put these sanctions back in at any point. now, what they re telling us is that s because iran has been using the money that had got released when the sanctions were relaxed to sow chaos in the region. it doesn t smell right. you know why? they ve been doing that all along. in fact, that was a big point for trump in nixing the original deal. remember? it doesn t do anything with all the menacing that they re doing. however, remember back in 2015, all the countries involved said the deal was just about nukes, not all the other bad stuff that iran was doing. just for context. all right. then they say, well, there s new violations of what they were supposed to do under the deal even though they walked away from the deal, which you would think would relieve iran of those types of considerations. but that s not true. international inspectors say that they are complying with the deal. what does that leave? i wonder if this tweet put this tweet back on the screen for people, the one the president put out there. i wonder if the tweet with the president admitting that he knew what that meeting about not that he knew, but that the meeting was about getting information on clinton. i wonder if the timing of that has anything to do with this abrupt turn to iran, especially when the real sanctions on iran aren t scheduled right now. they re in november. so why do it now? however, in fairness, the new sanctions are going to be imposed, and we do have 90 to 100 days after he walked away as a transition period that the administration gave companies to wind down contracts with iran in order to avoid penalties. so we are within that window, so maybe that s why they re doing this now just to be fair. however, so now that trump has decided this is what s going to happen, the timing aside, what does it mean? all right. here are the pluses to the move. here s the first big plus. ready? money is power, right? a paucity of money, when you cut money, you cut it, that creates what? pressure, okay? that s what this is about, pressure. a big ugly word because i can t write because i m a lefty. and this is what the key is here. take away the money, you apply pressure. a u.s. official says that nearly 100 international firms have announced their intent to leave the iranian market. now, that s going to hurt. you combine that with more squeezing by the government, these renewed sanctions, there could be civil unrest. in fact, national security adviser bolton pointed to riots on sunday as proof of desired pressure. what s the hope? that unrest equals a deal, okay? that s what you re hoping is that they ll come back to the table and say we want to make a better deal. here s the flip, though. rouhani, the iranian leader, says the opposite is true. you sanction us like that, we re less likely to deal. bolton suggested that our european allies are considering joining the u.s. move. here s the problem. there is no proof of that. here are the facts. the eu, russia, china, they re all sticking with the accord. they put out a statement on monday. what did they say? the eu, the uk, and france all said and germany we deeply regret that the u.s. is doing what they re doing right now. the eu announced it was going to take legal steps to protect eu companies doing legitimate business in iran that gives them back their money, okay? one more point for you. let s be very clear. iran is not china. it is not even north korea. it s not russia. how? they re driven by religion. they are zealots there. religion, ethnic conflict. those are the driving forces, not just economics or mere land grabs. so if a tougher round of sanctions that is going to happen tonight is going to then give an extra step to what s supposed to happen in november with these even more biting sanctions, those are on iran s sale of crude oil and transactions with its central bank. those are big. what happens? the markets, the military, resulting mayhem are all potential negative outcomes from this kind of move. so it is a gamble. those are the factors here on the white board of everything at play with the somewhat random decision. what about this strategy or lack thereof? we have an expert. phil mudd is here. he knows the problems. he knows the potential solutions. where does this fit? next. when you rent from national. it s kind of like playing your own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it s a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what, you re guaranteed to have a perfect drive. 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[telephone ring] like my father before. ahoy-hoy! as long as people talk too loudly on the phone, you can count on geico saving folks money. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. so, boy, oh, boy, is this some mix of what you have going on in the primary there. i was just trying in the break to figure it out. i can t give you a sense of what we think is going to happen. what do you think happens tomorrow night, and more importantly, why? well, we are up in the polls right now both in the general election. we re beating congressman yoder by seven points, which is the largest lead of any democratic challenger in the country. we re also up in the primary polls for tomorrow quite a bit. now, obviously i am not taking anything for granted. we re working hard for every single last vote, and we re going to keep working hard until we beat congressman yoder in november because obviously this is an extremely important election. you know, i had rosie o donnell on earlier. tonight she s got people who are broadway performers down in front of the white house. i don t know if you had a chance. i know you re campaigning. but the conversation for her is trump s got to go. he s a bad guy. he does bad things. the democrats have to win. my point back is anti is not enough. when you look at big turns, whoever wins in midterms does it because they are offering something for, not just against. and when i was looking at your site and looking at some of the messages, where do you think the democrats come out on that? how do you make the point that you re better for the economy with all those robust index numbers that we ve seen, that you re better for national security when we re in a relatively safe state? how do you make a better case? well, you know, i was one of the first staffers on barack obama s campaign. i was the national field director for the teamsters. i ve been around organizing for a long time. and what i ve seen unfortunately for so many years now is that the democrats keep losing and losing and losing. we ve lost the white house. we ve lost the house, the senate, state legislators, the governorship, and we ve deny doing generally the same way, trying to run candidates on a and it wasn t worked. i m a labor lawyer. i spent the last decade in teamster labor halls around the country. what i find is these people that voted for barack obama and then donald trump will come back to the democratic party, but you have to tell them exactly what you re going to do for them. you have to talk to them about these bold, progressive economic ideas. that s how we re going to win them back. i think that s why i m beating congressman yoder by seven points right now, the largest lead in the country even though i m right here in kansas. these economic ideas are resonating so well with people in my district. the third district includes kansas city, am i right? yeah, that s where i live in fact, so i hope it does. so that s helping you in terms of a message that will go to a more diverse and a bigger population. when you say about winning trump voters back, a lot of them are voting for him on cultural dynamics. they re not the blue collar, pocketbook economics that i grew up with a father who was in the democratic party as a governor, and he talked to that a lot. that s not the dialogue anymore, and it seems to be that you have two layers of conflict and challenge to deal with. that one that they re talking culture, not just commerce. and, two, that the left has a divide, which is guys like you and the criticism will be, mr. welder, you re free everything. you re free everything for everybody. free, free, free. can t have enough tax money injected into people s lives versus a more centrist approach. how do you deal with both of those burdens? you know, one thing you didn t mention that i think is actually extremely important to these working class folks that we need to win back is finally ending the corrupting influence of big money in politics. that s something that i ve been working for myself throughout my life. i actually, when i started running 14 months ago, pledged that i was never going to accept one penny of corporate pac money. i ve been involved in politics long enough to see how that affects things and how it causes these politicians like my opponent, kevin yoder, who has taken more money from the payday loan sharks than any member of the house or u.s. senate to side about giant banks and giant corporations instead of people. that is the thing i think is resonating most with people is they re ready to send someone to congress who is not corrupted and who rejects this kind of corporate spending. you re still going to have to deal with the free, free, free. i interview bernie all the time. i saw hoe ocasio-cortez, that worked in her district. there we especially in the third district where you are, because you get outside that city, you get a different viewpoint. what is going on with ending spending? you have a conservative group. do you believe they re trying to help you by all the people have to go on. you have to google it for yourself. they put a ton of money, hundreds of thousands of dollars into this seat, and they re running ads that some of your opponents say are helpful to you. what is going on? why is a conservative pac doing ads that some say are helpful to you, and how do you see it? those are the strangest ads i ve ever seen in my entire life. i have no idea what their motivation is. what i do know is that i m beating kevin yoder by seven points. you do know that because you ve said that three times. why are they putting this money in the race? i m proud of it. i m proud of it. it s the largest lead of any democratic challenger in the country, and it s right here in kansas. i think that pretty much kind of speaks for itself as far as the policies i m running on. i m fighting against the corruption. you know, kevin yoder votes with donald trump virtually ever single time, and people are sick of it, and that s why i feel really confident that we re going to be able to flip this seat in kansas. you know, 25,000 people have gone to brent wilder.com to give small donations, 25,000. brent welder, it is an interesting race. i d never think that the biggest dollar amount of ads going into your campaign would go from ending spending, a group that gave a million dollars to donald trump. when we see the results please come back and make the case if you wind up on top. thank you so much. can t wait. donald trump s tactics as i call them are well-known. if you criticize him he will attack you brutally. and what happens? his base generally a little bit about what he said about lebron james and don. d lemon is here with the reaction you ve been waiting for. looking good and smart next. crisp leaves of lettuce. freshly made dressing. clean food that looks this good. delivered to your desk. now delivering to home or office. panera. food as it should be. panera. a lot of paints say ordinthey can do the job,ver. but just one can behr through it all. behr premium plus, a top rated interior paint at a great price. family friendly, disaster proof. find it exclusively at the home depot. come from your business number. them, not so much. we let you keep an eye on your business from anywhere. the others? nope! for a limited time, when you get fast, reliable internet, you can add voice for just $24.95 more per month. call or go online today. call or go on line today. don lemon is going to join me right now. as you know cnn tonight follows cuomo primetime and as you all know don and i are friends. but objectively d. lemon you have a following and fans for a ren. and it ain t because they think you re dumb. here s what the president tweeted. lebron james was just interviewed by the dumbest man on television, don lemon. he made lebron look smart which isn t easy to do. i like mike. who s the real dummy? a man who puts kids in classrooms or one who puts kids in cages. #be best, of course refers to first lady s campaign for better character. what was the point you want people to take from this? who s the real dummy? i want people to take the truth from this. who s the real dummy. lebron james is okay, chris, listen, you re sitting at home, watching the report he s not even at home in bedminster. he s watching a report on someone who happens to be black and they re doing something really great for their community and not only changing kids lives but their families as well, changing the trajectories of their future and you call me dumb and him dumb by default. if you can t say anything good don t say anything at all. why did he feel the need? i was aiming to do exactly what i said there, who is the real dummy? somebody who sits down and sees this or someone who s putting kids in classrooms. you point out material misstatements and lies by the president and his administration and he hates it, so i ve prepared something for you. listen to what was written about the president lying and the damage. and i ll tell you who wrote it afterwards. if you and i fall into bad moral habits we could harm our families our employer and our friends. the president of the united states can incinerate the planet. seriously the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the chief executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous. and then he went onto this, for those around the president our leaders must either act to restore the lust s and dignity of the institution of the presidency or we can be certain that this is only the beginning of an even more difficult time for our land. for the nation to move on, the president must move out. you know who said that? vice president mike pence wrote it in the 90s about bill clinton. now he is apparently immune to hypocrisy. but what does that tell yo about what you re up against? that was then, this is now. we re up against tribalism. we re up against people who will lie, steal, and cheat, lie to their own mother, lie to themselves about what s right of this country, lie about truth and facts. lie about any terrible misdeed, any awful saying they will just ignore it for their own political purpose. they will ignore the bigotry and the pettiness and the childishness about what donald trump said about me and lebron james and others just because they want to gain some political clout or they want a few more dollars in tax money. at what cost? i ll tell you as much as it would usually make me jealous and angry towards you to be maen mentioned in the same sentence with lebron james, it is warranted here because you both were bringing about the best in what that situation was supposed to be. here s what the president tweeted about us. the fake news hates me saying they re the enemy of the people only because they know it s true. i m providing a great service by explaining this to the american people. they purposely cause great division and distrust. they can also cause war. they are very dangerous and sick. now, this is an example of the lie. how? it s a material misstatement of the fact to deceive. we ve pushed back on propaganda before. and the president is the only person that can start a war, not the press. and it s exactly his vast power, that s why people like don lemon hold him to account. lies are dangerous. you know what projections
Chris Cuomo asks the tough questions to newsmakers in Washington and around the world. it looks very hinky to me. here s why i ask you about what this is about because let s say you win. let s say the democrats win. you get the house. probably not the senate, but you get the house. there s a call for impeachment among progressives like yourself. yes. two things happen. well, i don t think it s just progressives, chris. there will be a call for impeachment from all those not heard, who are the majority in america. okay. i give you that fact. i ll stipulate to it for the point of this argument. okay. so everybody calls out. you don t have the votes. it doesn t happen. you galvanize support for the president, and we are torn more apart in this country. are you worried about that outcome? no, i am not. i am believing in the american people. i believe in this country. i believe in what it was founded on. i believe in the constitution. i think that on election day, we re going to show up in a huge way, in a way that we haven t ever seen before in the united states. and people have just really had enough. they ve had enough of a president who separates families and puts babies in cages. you know all of the catch phrases. every day he does something worse than the day before, and he tops it and tops it and tops it. i believe that trump is loathed in america, that people are embarrassed and ashamed of who he is, and that come election day, we re going to stand up at the polls and let him know. and unless he goes in and has the russians kind of fix it like he did last time in 2016, you know, we re going to see him gone. and that s what i m waiting and hoping for and hoping that people across the country are inspired to use their own voice in whatever way to get people to know that this country is worth fighting for. amen on that. the more people get involved, the higher the voter percentage is, the more people will get what they want. it will reduce the effects of money on politics. it will make everything better, not perfect, but better. so i m all with you. the more people go out and vote their conscience, the better, whatever their conscience is. here s my other concern. yeah. there is reason to criticize the president. i am not going to fight you on that point. that emotion in them of truth and what about his rallies? first of all, people are paid, chris. you know that. people were paid since he went down on the escalator. he pays people to show up at those rallies. that is a fact. but i don t know that that s why he gets tens of thousands at the rallies. i think he captures a lot of motion for people. when did he get tens of thousands at the last rally? tell me when.? at the tampa i think they only had 9,000 seats and there were people outside, but rosie, i ve seen him. he gets big groups of people who come out. he gives themes that resonate. whatever they re positive or not, that s up to people to decide. i don t have the facts that his crowds are bought off. but you can look at well, you can look at all the requests for extras to come and cheer with signs for him. you can find those tangible pieces of evidence. those are not real rallies. you know, when he went down on that escalator, he paid all those people there, calling rapists and mexicans rapists. this is not real what he s doing even though he keeps screaming that you guys are not real. i know he does that. i know he does that, rosie, but listen. look, i ve known you a long time. you ve known my family a long time. i know your mom. and mom would be the first one to say, let him say what he s going to say. you say what you know is true. you always keep your dignity. you always fight the good fight. so that s what we do. when he came down that escalator, did i see the reporting that there were paid people there? yes, i did. did i believe it? yes, i did. have i seen it at all of these rallies? no, so i m not going to do what the president does. i m not going to say they re all bought off, they re all fake, because i think that s b.s. i don t think it s true, and i m not going to play to it just because i think it s satisfying. but you could do the evidence to find out. sure. we do it all the time. lead with that story before you play his rally. to play his rally to me is just falling into his hands. i don t play his rallies. i do truth check every night. i do magic walls. i find all these different devices because i want people to know what s real and then they can act on it. that s why i m talking to you because people need to know what you re doing, know where people s voices are, and then they can make their decisions about which side to join and hopefully there s common ground that gets here sooner rather than later. i hope there is common ground. people ask me all the time, your son s a marine. how can you have a son whose a marine when you re such a pass fist kind of a person? i love and respect my son, and i can hold two opposing thoughts in my head at one time. one is i m terrified something is going to happen to him, and the other is i m so immensely proud of the commitment he has given to this country because he believes in this country the same way that i do. i believe in america and what it stands for in the constitution, and this president and administration has done everything they can to undermine it. and it s not okay. it s not all right in any way, and we have to use our voices and fight. you do exactly that. that s why good men and women like your son are fighting for our freedoms. and when somebody serves in a family, the whole family feels it. the whole family sacrifices. so thank you to your entire clan for the dedication to the country. thank you. and the service of your son. thank you, chris cuomo. peace. let s see. we ll be following what happens at the white house, and we ll see what the impact of this party with a purpose is all about tonight. now, back to another big story for you. they told us that the meeting in trump tower with the russian operative was about adoption. you remember that? the whole statement that they wrote, the president had no role in. well, we know that s not true, and now we have the president apparently admitting something that s even more important. cuomo s court is in session, and you need to weigh in. there are the counselors, next. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely. with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast. .and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can t do anything about that. now that you know the truth. are you in good hands? crisp leaves of lettuce. freshly made dressing. clean food that looks this good. delivered to your desk. now delivering to home or office. panera. food as it should be. panera. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium announcer: all military members stand and be recognized. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that s why we re providing half off family lines to all military. up that trump tower that that trump tower meeting was about obtaining dirt on hillary clinton. the president says it is totally legal. is that a fact? no. let s bring in asha rangappa and professor alan dershowitz. now, the statute at play that people are going to hear discussed, i want to put it up on the screen for them so all the legalese doesn t go over everybody s head. this would be the concern. you keep hearing lawyers tell you all the time and experts and some not so experts saying, you can t get help from a foreign inimical power. here s the law. it shall be unlawful for a person to solicit, which means to try to get, accept, or receive a contribution or donation prescribed in these different places from a foreign national. asha rangappa, former fbi agent, law degree, make the case. is this tweet a problem? this tweet is a problem because it s acknowledging that the purpose of that meeting was to obtain information that would benefit the campaign from foreign nationals. now, there are a few legal issues here. the first is whether what was being offered was a thing of value. this is something you ll hear lawyers arguing about. and a big clue here is in the recent indictment that robert mueller just filed against the gru officers, and in that indictment, the charges for hacking which he brings against those 12 gru officers alleges that the stolen e-mails were worth over $5,000, which makes them a thing of value. i think you could argue that they are valuable in many other ways, but he s essentially laying the groundwork that this was a thing of value. the question here is did they accept or receive it? i think that here you do have the other party, the russian crown, prosecutor, friend or whoever these people were reaching out. they weren t soliciting, but they did go to the meeting. and the question is what happened afterwards? and there are some strange coincidences when you look at the indictment, the dates that are in there and other things that we know happened subsequent to that meeting. but i ll let my colleague make his case and then respond. he s smiling wide. but add this to the mix for yourself, professor. one step farther than asha wants to go. if it s illegal to solicit and you find out that someone has dirt for you and you know what kind of person it is, and you go there to get it, why isn t that soliciting? and then what do you make of this in context? well, first of all, it may very well be soliciting, and it may very well be a thing of value. the problem is it would be unconstitutional for a statute to prohibit a candidate from obtaining information from any source whatsoever. just like the new york times can t be prohibits from obtaining information or chris cuomo can t be prohibited from obtaining information, even if the information you have was stolen, even if you know it was given to you by manning or snowden, or daniel ellsberg. the constitution requires an open marketplace of ideas. and you cannot construe a statute that was intended to prevent financial contributions largely to apply to information, to apply to facts, to apply to news. that would be unconstitutional. so you re hitting her with the pentagon papers defense. you re saying that opposition research, dirt on clinton, is information just like if it came to me, asha, and therefore it doesn t qualify under this statute. absolutely. this is a false analogy, chris. first of all, political campaigns are not news organizations, and here the key word in what professor dershowitz just said is the open marketplace of ideas. when you have something happening surreptitiously, under the table, secretly, that is not an open marketplace of ideas. now, if the trump campaign went on tv and said, hey, the russian government just gave us all this stolen information and told the voters that, that would be one thing. i still think it would be a crime, but at least they re being transparent. when they are concealing the source of that, that is exactly what our open society is meant to prevent. we want people to evaluate information in context. and just to bring this back to the framers of the constitution, they were worried about two things, chris. they were worried about foreign influence and self-dealing. this is why we have a natural born citizen requirement. we want, you know, loyalty. we don t want influence from outside. this is the federalist papers 68 where hamilton warns of foreign governments trying to infiltrate our elections. so i completely disagree that this is permissible as some kind of first amendment right. professor. the statute itself clearly is intended to cover financial contributions. it s always been applied that way. it has never been construed or interpreted then why didn t they say that? why didn t they say what? money. well, they did. they said something of value. right. but why didn t they say money? but you have to construe a let me be even more specific. even if they intended to cover this, they can t cover it because it could be unconstitutional. you cannot regulate ideas. the federal government simply doesn t have the power under the first amendment to prohibit a candidate remember, a candidate is also expressing first amendment views. he has exactly the same status as the new york times and as you do. he has the right or she has the right to use any information from any source, and it doesn t matter whether it s a foreign or domestic source, and that s why to construe an ambiguous statute that way would violate the first amendment. and the first rule of constitutional construction is if you have a statute that s capable of being construed in two different ways, you must always construe it constitutionally consistent with the first amendment. i hear the arguments on either side, but there s something else going on here. lying, okay? there is lying going on here, professor. there was lying going on about what we were told about this meeting. the statement that was done about it. the president s role in it. and then even when that statement was written, it was deceptive about what actually happened in the meeting, and that seems to be clear on the face of this tweet, asha. so even if it isn t illegal, what does this mean to investigators in terms of looking at a pattern of behavior of how this then-candidate, now-president treated these types of issues? it means that they believe that they were doing something wrong, period. that is why people lie. i mean you know that from being a parent and watching your 5-year-old. you know, one thing, let s just assume arguendo as we would say in legalese, that these are crimes and that, you know, they did agree, and there is, say, a conspiracy. there s an affirmative defense in conspiracy where if you renounce the conspiracy, you say actually, i don t want to do this anymore or i don t want to have anything to do with this, that can be your defense. and, chris, i think it s important for viewers to remember that in august of 2016, the fbi went and warned the trump campaign that russia was trying to infiltrate their campaigns and influence the elections. and at that point, that was the time for every single person who had these sketchy contacts to come forward and say, you know what, that s kind of funny because, you know, two random russians showed up in trump tower. that could have been a defense, and yet at every turn they have chosen to lie, conceal, deflect, and cover up every contact that they ve had, not just these three people in the meeting, but everyone else associated with the campaign. what you re doing final quick word, professor. what you re doing is what so many people do. you re conflating bad conduct with criminal conduct. this may be bad conduct. lying is not a good thing if there was lying here. but to turn this into a crime, imagine if hillary clinton were elected president, and she were being investigated, and these were the charges. every civil libertarian would be up in arms talking about the first amendment, talking about the right of association, talking about all of these rights. but a double standard is being applied depending on which shoe the foot is on, and that s very inconsistent with the due process of law and we re dealing with the cards in front of us right now. as we all know that s right. lying is is a problem. it is a political problem. it is not a legal problem. maybe so, but it s a problem nonetheless. you cannot turn tweets it s a problem. i m not here to defend anybody s problem. it s a problem. not every problem has to be a crime in order to matter. that s the flip side of your argument. but i got to go, professor. that s what i ve been saying for two years. that not every problem is a crime. that s all i m saying. right. but it doesn t have to be a crime to be a problem. that s the flip. thank you as always. got to go. tough sanctions on iran are about to go into effect tonight at midnight. that s how urgent it is. why? 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it doesn t do anything with all the menacing that they re doing. however, remember back in 2015, all the countries involved said the deal was just about nukes, not all the other bad stuff that iran was doing. just for context. all right. then they say, well, there s new violations of what they were supposed to do under the deal even though they walked away from the deal, which you would think would relieve iran of those types of considerations. but that s not true. international inspectors say that they are complying with the deal. what does that leave? i wonder if this tweet put this tweet back on the screen for people, the one the president put out there. i wonder if the tweet with the president admitting that he knew what that meeting about not that he knew, but that the meeting was about getting information on clinton. i wonder if the timing of that has anything to do with this abrupt turn to iran, especially when the real sanctions on iran aren t scheduled right now. they re in november. so why do it now? however, in fairness, the new sanctions are going to be imposed, and we do have 90 to 100 days after he walked away as a transition period that the administration gave companies to wind down contracts with iran in order to avoid penalties. so we are within that window, so maybe that s why they re doing this now just to be fair. however, so now that trump has decided this is what s going to happen, the timing aside, what does it mean? all right. here are the pluses to the move. here s the first big plus. ready? money is power, right? a paucity of money, when you cut money, you cut it, that creates what? pressure, okay? that s what this is about, pressure. a big ugly word because i can t write because i m a lefty. and this is what the key is here. take away the money, you apply pressure. a u.s. official says that nearly 100 international firms have announced their intent to leave the iranian market. now, that s going to hurt. you combine that with more squeezing by the government, these renewed sanctions, there could be civil unrest. in fact, national security adviser bolton pointed to riots on sunday as proof of desired pressure. what s the hope? that unrest equals a deal, okay? that s what you re hoping is that they ll come back to the table and say we want to make a better deal. here s the flip, though. rouhani, the iranian leader, says the opposite is true. you sanction us like that, we re less likely to deal. bolton suggested that our european allies are considering joining the u.s. move. here s the problem. there is no proof of that. here are the facts. the eu, russia, china, they re all sticking with the accord. they put out a statement on monday. what did they say? the eu, the uk, and france all said and germany we deeply regret that the u.s. is doing what they re doing right now. the eu announced it was going to take legal steps to protect eu companies doing legitimate business in iran that gives them back their money, okay? one more point for you. let s be very clear. iran is not china. it is not even north korea. it s not russia. how? they re driven by religion. they are zealots there. religion, ethnic conflict. those are the driving forces, not just economics or mere land grabs. so if a tougher round of sanctions that is going to happen tonight is going to then give an extra step to what s supposed to happen in november with these even more biting sanctions, those are on iran s sale of crude oil and transactions with its central bank. those are big. what happens? the markets, the military, resulting mayhem are all potential negative outcomes from this kind of move. so it is a gamble. those are the factors here on the white board of everything at play with the somewhat random decision. what about this strategy or lack thereof? we have an expert. phil mudd is here. he knows the problems. he knows the potential solutions. where does this fit? next. sleep disturbances keep 1 in 3 adults up at night. only remfresh uses ion-powered melatonin to deliver up to 7 hours of sleep support. number 1 sleep doctor recommended remfresh your nightly sleep companion. available in the natural sleep section at walmart. now i m gonna tell my momma that i m a traveller i m gonna follow the sun now i m gonna tell my momma that i m a traveller i m gonna follow the sun transitions™ light under control™ it is such a good time to dance it is such a good time to [ laughing ] scoobidoo doobidoo scoobidoo doobidoo [ goose honking ] [ laughing ] a bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. progressive helps keep you out there. for you on the white board. we ll put it on online, on my twitter feed and the show s feed if you didn t get it. how about the strategy in play? for that, we ve got as good a guest as we can have. cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd. let s make three quick points. first of all you say don t get too deep in the weeds of strategy. look at the president first, why? i love these strategy conversations. can we look at the personality of the president? repeatedly he s told us how he thinks. he s told this, and he said this publicly, i m the only policy maker in public office. forget about state department. i m the man who makes policy. and he s told us repeatedly, i m a genius. what has he done in every circumstance? north korea, u-turn. russia, u-turn. g7, he goes to canada and embarrasses them. u-turn. nato, u-turn. they re not our friends. they need to pay more. he comes in and says, i m smarter than bush. i m smarter than obama. in every one of these circumstances, i m u-turning because my solution is a better solution. same thing with iran, u-turn. so the u-turn here would be him actually, to me, it looks like stepping on the gas and saying, i m going to sanction them. the timing is a little curious, but let s take the tactic. i m going to sanction you to come to the table and say, i want a better deal, mr. trump because my people are rioting. i m squeezed. i m poor. good luck. if you re going to sanction someone that way, one of the lessons of history is you ve got to make sure they don t have too many pressure valves where they can turn off the pressure someplace else. let me give you three pressure valves that are going to help the iranians. number one, the europeans are coming out saying we re not with you on this one. number two, people who aren t side by side with the president so far this time that is longtime friends with iran for decades. that s the russians and the chinese potentially not only buying oil but defense contracts with the iranians who have got a lot of oil money. when we think we can squeeze the iranians unilaterally, they re saying i ve got the europeans, the chinese and the russians. ain t going to work. in terms of getting that unrest going, getting the progressives such as they might exist inside the iranian government and larger society to work with the united states to create change there, you say a move like this doesn t necessarily help. well, careful. there s traditionally over the course of decades two camps in iran. you have the reformists. let s not call them moderates. you have the reformists, people who want to move forward. and you have the conservatives. so the conservatives would have said be careful with this deal with the americans. be careful. in 2015. that s right. since the revolution in 1979, they ve been our enemy. they like the saudis. we hate the saudis. big american military presence in the persian gulf. we don t like them there. if you were a conservative wanting to attack the people who made the deal with the americans this time, you re going to step back and say, i told you. you signed the deal in 2015, and they screwed you again. you cannot trust the americans. this is more evidence of it. phil mudd, three solid points. appreciate it. so it is the eve of a big election night in america. why? 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( ) (grunting) today is your day. crush it. angie s boom chicka pop whole grain popcorn. boom! all right. a key factor in how the midterms are going to go down may be what happens this week in kansas. this is a state that hasn t sent a democrat to congress in over a decade. but there is this crowded field in tomorrow s primary that features a choice between a more centrist approach and the more liberal policies, aggressively so, backed by people like bernie sanders and his acolyte and the big winner in new york, alexandria ocasio-cortez. they have both thrown their support behind my next guest, congressional candidate brent welder. good to have you on, sir. hey, chris, great to be here. thank you so much. so, boy, oh, boy, is this some mix of what you have going on in the primary there. i was just trying in the break to figure it out. i can t give you a sense of what we think is going to happen. what do you think happens tomorrow night, and more importantly, why? well, we are up in the polls right now both in the general election. we re beating congressman yoder by seven points, which is the largest lead of any democratic challenger in the country. we re also up in the primary polls for tomorrow quite a bit. now, obviously i am not taking anything for granted. we re working hard for every single last vote, and we re going to keep working hard until we beat congressman yoder in november because obviously this is an extremely important election. you know, i had rosie o donnell on earlier. tonight she s got people who are broadway performers down in front of the white house. i don t know if you had a chance. i know you re campaigning. but the conversation for her is trump s got to go. he s a bad guy. he does bad things. the democrats have to win. my point back is anti is not enough. when you look at big turns, whoever wins in midterms does it because they are offering something for, not just against. and when i was looking at your site and looking at some of the messages, where do you think the democrats come out on that? how do you make the point that you re better for the economy with all those robust index numbers that we ve seen, that you re better for national security when we re in a relatively safe state? how do you make a better case? well, you know, i was one of the first staffers on barack obama s campaign. i was the national field director for the teamsters. i ve been around organizing for a long time. and what i ve seen unfortunately for so many years now is that the democrats keep losing and losing and losing. we ve lost the white house. we ve lost the house, the senate, state legislators, the governorship, and we ve been doing it generally speaking the same way, trying to run candidates that are running on a corporatist message, on a center-right message, and it hasn t worked. i m a labor lawyer. i ve spent the last decade in teamster labor halls around the country. and what i find is these people that voted for barack obama and then donald trump will come back to the democratic party, but you have to tell them exactly what you re going to do for them. you have to talk to them about these bold, progressive economic ideas. that s how we re going to win them back. i think that s why i m beating congressman yoder by seven points right now, the largest lead in the country even though i m right here in kansas. these economic ideas are resonating so well with people in my district. the third district includes kansas city, am i right? yeah, that s where i live in fact, so i hope it does. so that s helping you in terms of a message that will go to a more diverse and a bigger population. when you say about winning trump voters back, a lot of them are voting for him on cultural dynamics. they re not the blue collar, pocketbook economics that i grew up with a father who was in the democratic party as a governor, and he talked to that a lot. that s not the dialogue anymore, and it seems to be that you have two layers of conflict and challenge to deal with. that one that they re talking culture, not just commerce. and, two, that the left has a divide, which is guys like you and the criticism will be, mr. welder, you re free everything. you re free everything for everybody. free, free, free. can t have enough tax money injected into people s lives versus a more centrist approach. how do you deal with both of those burdens? you know, one thing you didn t mention that i think is actually extremely important to these working class folks that we need to win back is finally ending the corrupting influence of big money in politics. that s something that i ve been working for myself throughout my life. i actually, when i started running 14 months ago, pledged that i was never going to accept one penny of corporate pac money. i ve been involved in politics long enough to see how that affects things and how it causes these politicians like my opponent, kevin yoder, who has taken more money from the payday loan sharks than any member of the house or u.s. senate to side about giant banks and giant corporations instead of people. that is the thing i think is resonating most with people is they re ready to send someone to congress who is not corrupted and who rejects this kind of corporate spending. you re still going to have to deal with the free, free, free. i interview bernie all the time. i saw how ocasio-cortez, that specific people were open to needing more from government. worked in her district. especially in the third district where you are, because you get outside that city, you get a different viewpoint. what is going on with ending spending? you have a conservative group. do you believe they re trying to help you by all the people have to go on. you have to google it for yourself. they put a ton of money, hundreds of thousands of dollars into this seat, and they re running ads that some of your opponents say are helpful to you. what is going on? why is a conservative pac doing ads that some say are helpful to you, and how do you see it? those are the strangest ads i ve ever seen in my entire life. i have no idea what their motivation is. what i do know is that i m beating kevin yoder by seven points. you do know that because you ve said that three times. why are they putting this money in the race? i m proud of it. i m proud of it. it s the largest lead of any democratic challenger in the country, and it s right here in kansas. i think that pretty much kind of speaks for itself as far as the policies i m running on. i m fighting against the corruption. you know, kevin yoder votes with donald trump virtually ever single time, and people are sick of it, and that s why i feel really confident that we re going to be able to flip this seat in kansas. you know, 25,000 people have gone to brentwelder.com to give small dollar donations or volunteer on this campaign. 25,000. that s how we re building a people fuelled campaign. even though i m rejecting corporate pack money. the biggest dollar of adds would come from ending spendsing. a group that gave a million dollars to donald trump. we ll follow lt race carefully. please come back and make the case if you winds up on top. thank you so much. can t wait. so, donald trump atactic. well known. if you criticize him he will attack you brutally. and what happens? his base generally what about what he said about lebron james? and don? don lemon and here with the reaction you have been waiting for. looking good, and smart. next. keep it comin love. if you keep on eating, we ll keep it comin . all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. come hok., babe. nasty nighttime heartburn? try new alka-seltzer pm gummies. the only fast, powerful heartburn relief plus melatonin so you can fall asleep quickly. oh, what a relief it is! now i m gonna tell my momma that i m a traveller i m gonna follow the sun now i m gonna tell my momma that i m a traveller i m gonna follow the sun transitions™ light under control™ omar, check this out. uh, yeah, i was calling to see if you do laser hair removal. for men. notice that my hips are off the ground. 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a man who puts kids in classrooms or one who puts kids in cages. #be best, of course refers to first lady s campaign for better character. what was the point you want people to take from this? who s the real dummy? i want people to take the truth from this. who s the real dummy. lebron james is okay, chris, listen, you re sitting at home, watching the report he s not even at home in bedminster. he s watching a report on someone who happens to be black and they re doing something really great for their community and not only changing kids lives but their families as well, changing the trajectories of their future and you call me dumb and him dumb by default. if you can t say anything good don t say anything at all. why did he feel the need? i was aiming to do exactly what i said there, who is the real dummy? somebody who sits down and sees this or someone who s putting kids in classrooms. you point out material misstatements and lies by the president and his administration and he hates it, so i ve prepared something for you. listen to what was written about the president lying and the damage. and i ll tell you who wrote it afterwards. if you and i fall into bad moral habits we could harm our families our employer and our friends. the president of the united states can incinerate the planet. seriously the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the chief executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous. and then he went onto this, for those around the president our leaders must either act to restore the lust s and dignity of the institution of the presidency or we can be certain that this is only the beginning of an even more difficult time for our land. for the nation to move on, the president must move out. you know who said that? vice president mike pence wrote it in the 90s about bill clinton. now he is apparently immune to hypocrisy. but what does that tell yo about what you re up against? that was then, this is now. we re up against tribalism. we re up against people who will lie, steal, and cheat, lie to their own mother, lie to themselves about what s right of this country, lie about truth and facts. lie about any terrible misdeed, any awful saying they will just ignore it for their own political purpose. they will ignore the bigotry and the pettiness and the childishness about what donald trump said about me and lebron james and others just because they want to gain some political clout or they want a few more dollars in tax money. at what cost? i ll tell you as much as it would usually make me jealous and angry towards you to be mentioned in the same sentence with lebron james, it is warranted here because you both were bringing about the best in what that situation was supposed to be. here s what the president tweeted about us. the fake news hates me saying they re the enemy of the people only because they know it s true. i m providing a great service by explaining this to the american people. they purposely cause great division and distrust. they can also cause war. they are very dangerous and sick. now, this is an example of the lie. how? it s a material misstatement of the fact to deceive. we ve pushed back on propaganda before. and the president is the only person that can start a war, not the press. and it s exactly his vast power, that s why people like don lemon hold him to account. lies are dangerous. you know what projections are, and i say chris, you re projecting. you actually do say that. if you will listen to this president, what he says, what he tweets, what he writes, it s always projection. whatever he says about someone else is usually true about him. whatever he s trying to hide he usually puts that out. now, i don t know what that says about him. i m not a psychologist, but i know what projection is, and i think we all know what that is. and we know it s true because time and time again it s come to be true after the president says so. riddle me this smart guy,
topics: Spain: Refugee Crisis; Sweden: The Elin Ersson Case; Britain: Cellar Wars Beneath London; Iceland: Hunting Endangered Whales; Italy: Stamping out. them are ashamed to be living in a slum in europe. you know getting through for me here but i m going to they don t want their families to see them living here in these conditions that s logical you can understand that. i don t think they ever lived like this in africa but if you go. there is not ashamed on the contrary he wants people to know what s really happening in europe. and he s not ready to give up on his dream of a better life. what. a move to model for us now i m living here some time i were to work to get more money to send to my family you have to go to help myself here you know i m no i m to die it s for my future it will be to. eventually once he s saved enough money intends to return to the ivory coast my son needs me he says all of africa needs us but that s in the future right now he s got to figure out where he can sleep tonight. while migrants are facing an uncertain future across europe as governments step up deportations of those who ve been denied asylum but it is a controversial practice especially for turning migrants back to afghanistan and critics say the country is not safe in sweden and activists made headlines were refusing to sit down on a flight taking off from gothenburg preventing the deportation of an afghan man allen erickson has been celebrated by some for her courage and criticized by others for breaking the law we caught up with her to find out more. when and shauna gets together with her friends these days they usually talk about her protest which made headlines around the world she still getting messages of support . refused to take a seat on a flight from gothenburg to istanbul in order to prevent the deportation of an asylum seeker to afghanistan video of the incident has gone viral. took this step to protest against sweden s asylum policies. we re not giving the correct legal procedure that they have the right to we are the government and the migration office are doing so much things that they possibly can use to make sure that they deport and react as many people as possible. and works for an association in gothenburg that provides assistance for under age refugees. most of them come from afghanistan and. they see hope in people like you trying to keep them from being deported even if it means breaking the law. or your figure they re trying to deport me to i took them to court and i ve been waiting for a ruling for a year. if i could take another year you know i ve lived in sweden for several years now and i have no idea how i d react to being deported if you do or don t do it with the way it is obvious with the evidence that was. the actions have sparked debate about sweden s asylum and immigration policies recent polls indicate that right wing populist sound gaining ground ahead of september s parliamentary elections they blame immigrants for an increase in crime in suburban areas. and to stop the next government should stop immigration. and don t have young people who face death at home are allowed to stay but we let in all sorts of shady characters. the conservative opposition party moderate turner says ash on committed a crime and says she should be punished for it. we are going slow in sweden deportation cases are decided in a court of law not by politicians and you can t have private citizens interfering with a process dispute but says the courts ignore the dangers facing deportees in afghanistan and that s why she decided to protest. so in afghanistan we are when you are deported there they can see that you are from europe they can see that you re wearing clothes from europe that you have a different way of walking of talking and it s a really bad situation but if he. says that she now fears for her safety. right wingers have threatened her on social media networks so when she goes out in the city she keeps her eyes open. like they write down my library i think i m very much like that different side of. it yes i m trying to make sure that. the social media doesn t know where i am or who my friends are sean says she plans to keep protesting because of the dangers many afghans face once they return home despite all the recent pressure she remains determined. so even your guests starting to dictations to afghanistan don t believe that probably they still together and i hope so because they are part of my life now this. time now fanshen to give an english radio station an interview the debate over sweden s deportation policy continues. now london is facing a serious housing shortage the prime minister the city s mayor have vowed to fix the market and build more affordable housing but the british capital is becoming increasingly an affordable for normal earners and even for london s wealthy residents like robbie williams who you might know space is at a premium so if you can t build up or left or right there is only one direction for the rich and famous to go down of course think luxury basements with pools and sauna us but all that underground construction has the neighborhood option arms take a look. so. we go. so this is the pool area which is one of the biggest in this area i mean there are others but normally we don t have the space. coast to steelman topples can barely contain his pride the property investor wants to show off what he s achieved the pool appears at the push of a button on the recall ten meters below ground the houses on the market for a mere twenty five million pounds. we have a home mom. we have a shower. we have a sauna. it s hard to tell on the outside that there s so much below this villa in london s upmarket notting hill area the house has three visible stories and three below ground it s fully automated garage can house three cars. is a good space of words especially their conservation area like notting hill. and the restricted is in between the houses so the only ability to increase the volume of the house is to go dot org. london is constantly on the move rising higher and higher wherever possible. the city is a magnet for investors and global money and its façade is changing fast. as are its foundations this is an unmistakable sign earth and rocks are being excavated by the truckload here they re digging twelve meters deep building another super basement. london is going deeper underground. trickle into road in southwestern london. home to bentley s and saudi princes as well as their nannies no pairs. this is the epicenter of the underground movement. twenty two houses already have mega basements they re like icebergs above ground it s all english and picturesque below there s a cool elegance sometimes three stories of it you might not be able to see anything but you can certainly hear it the ongoing construction noise is a source of conflict among neighbors. we sat between two amazingly enormous very noisy developments and. the it was it was absolutely the walls were shaking off and my son moved out couldn t stand it it was very very noisy. here and iceberg has triggered a major conflict the victorian fortress is a listed building owned by rock star jimmy page. the led zeppelin icon has lived here almost fifty years and was happy until another music legend turned up and wanted to start digging below ground. robbie williams bought the house next door for his growing family he has plans to build an underground swimming pool under his garden. but jimmy page thinks the project will cause irreparable damage to his house. he s been fighting the project for five years he lodged a complaint with the local council and asked them to refuse planning permission. he likes his home too much. i ve got to protect the building of. it it s a very special building and it s really difficult to be able to talk about it because it s sort of building that when people go in there they feel it they feel the energy of it and then they and then when they start to see what s employed in the rooms and lost the plan the way it s just it s just that is unique. for the moment the project is on hold while it s reviewed the local council has decided to place more restrictions on mega basements there s too much infighting among the rich and beautiful. this is what interests roger burrows a professor of cities at newcastle university. he participated in a study of more than four thousand basements in london and the effects they have on the people in the neighborhood. one of the things that s emerging i would say so it s not simply a politically with interesting it s this kind of tension between what we call the haves and the have the are between people who i would think of just being merely wealthy persons people who are billions and billions of pounds that. cost just doesn t like the negative headlines about the underground building revolution he says the future belongs to the bold and those at the top simply need a space like this below. well all that s missing is a private stop on london s underground. now whaling season has officially opened in iceland after a two year break fishermen once again started hunting endangered fin whales iceland and norway are the only two countries in the world that allow commercial whaling despite a global moratorium on the practice but local activists are increasingly fighting back not only because fin whales are a protected species but also because whale watching is a growing tourist attraction. see below here near macon whittaker takes people whale watching off the coast of iceland a dream job for the marine biologist who argue it s one of the main attractions for tourists here but they need to be patient. whittaker spotted something a mink a whale is eating its way through a school of fish. the whale only stays at the surface for a few moments. with a bit of luck the guests may even catch sight of a much larger humpback whale. in the same waters where the tourists are shooting their photos others are whale hunting for whitaker a cool business. the sound it was laid out skid like i was nervous it can feel there s pain so there s a heartbeat that goes into the wild and explosion and then they bring these wells on board so it can take you know thirty minutes up to an hour but these piles but it s a long painful process i only wailing station lies hidden at the end of a few org far from reykjavik the whale catchers have backed a fin whale the second largest mammal on earth and listed as an endangered species . act this. animal activists record the stripping of the forty ton whales blubber. begin to talk is an icelandic activist working to stop the killing of whales. she posts photos and videos on the internet hoping to inspire others to act against whaling mainly her own countrymen. this is not a tradition here really it started with no region still in it we have we have a long tradition of eating kale in iceland and growing kale so it came another way i. wonder if the whaling company owner places no value on such criticism as a teenager he harpooned whales from his father s boat and ate the meat if you go to the museum you. will need this. it s the only meat without any harm or i can guarantee you that but it s been banned in all e.u. and us due to some research but if this sentiment is going to take over here i don t think i think iceland will be. will not be a change in the bend of the nation in a couple of years if you re going to use that argument these aren t the everything groups they want to ban all fisheries they re protesting everything. was was there these demonstrators outside the parliament building in reykjavik aren t protesting everything only for protection for the endangered fin whales. so it may show more and more icelanders opposed whaling. the government could end the hunt at any time. instead it granted lot of sons whaling company a permit to kill one hundred ninety one fin whales in two thousand and eighteen. the uncle of our finance minister is the c.e.o. for the way the company so if this doesn t scream corruption i don t know what does but we have all the cards in parliament and they are against whaling and i hope that it will be forbidden by law to wm iceland i hardly anything is left of the giant fin whale at the station the meat has generally been sold to japan the only export market for. i son has a new business idea he wants to make a compound to treat iron deficiency. we pull frege that are even meat. you get about thirty percent. of the meat that will be then ground down in powder. and used as a supplement. a there as a parent or as a just as a puppet. biologist meghan whittaker reacts to such business ideas with sheer horror. just look you know the other threats these animals face i will take a long time for us to rectify and blaming is something we can stop here and now and there s absolutely no need for it is just as pointless for industry. recently the hunting of minke whales at least was halted it s a key victory for iceland s conservationists and their fight against whaling. now to roam the eternal city millions of tourists flock to the italian capital every year to visit ancient treasures like the colosseum where the pantheon or the trevi fountain roam is magnificent but it s also falling apart public infrastructure is collapsing especially streets and roads rome s administration has been accused of not doing enough mismanaging public funds the city is deep in debt so what can locals do well they re rolling up their sleeves and filling in the gaps themselves. pulled back to muscle no end his living on the streets of the a ten all sitting he has been a taxi driver here for three decades. millions of kilometers. but sometimes the job can get really dangerous every day must allow his to deal with countless potholes. will be always so this problem isn t new the city s politicians haven t paid attention to the situation for fifteen years if i could write off tire damage on my tax form you see me not have to pay any more income tax . no one seems to know how many punch holes there are in room. fifty states indicates this one affray one turns up every ten meters in some parts of the city streets look like swiss cheese it s so real has it. for local residents the potholes are simply part of a from daily life but they ve also attracted the attention of tourists city officials can t seem to get the patel problem under control despite the fact that by that own admission they ve spent a lot of money on st tropez. some residents have taken matters into their own hands a group of volunteers has started filling in the pot tells themselves. they call that group tap me all filmy they figure they for pet nearly six thousand. most of the materials needed by businesses city officials tolerate the group s efforts but provide no financial support. for all volunteers should get it is all but we donate some of our free time to deal with this serious problem. goals are a major threat for motorcyclists. and it doesn t do any good to just sit around and complain when i meet a bus and stuff will be the result we want to make a contribution. you know she s are you. to remove it when it appears you want to get out of going to us and we ve even got an internet site where people can contact us and warn us about really dangerous part of us i on weekends you can find christiane devaney in his crew out on the streets filling potholes the most they ve ever done was one hundred in a single day but why does this work have to be done by private citizens and not city workers that work. blames the problem on corruption. here over the last twenty years the potholes in the streets of rome have been filled with bribes instead of tar. i think the politicians are just afraid to admit that they can fix this problem by themselves. i probably should maybe they think it would make them look bad but in situations like this you can t be too picky 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Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. committee chairman ed rois says it s not just russia that s being sent a warning. watch. here s the point, to the extent that we send the message around the world that you cannot use nerve agents, this is a very important and consistent message we have to send. it s important that we maintain this kind of pressure in order to deter any other nation that might use a nerve agent, that might use a chemical and biological weapon on u.s. soil or on our allies soil. harris: doug mcelway live in washington as we learn more about this. russia is promising retaliatory action of some kind in response to the new sanctions set to take effect later this month. connecting new sanctions to these events is unacceptable for us. these restrictions as well as Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. russia, part of a pattern that in many ways this president and his administration have been tougher on russia than any president since president reagan. is it enough, it s all part of the bigger package. let me state at the beginning on monday, president trump will sign, i believe, the most significant peels of legislation that he has signed since he became president in the fiscal year 2019 national defense authorization act. he s going to fort drum in new york. in that ndaa will be a number of provisions that added with these sanctions all together will increase very tough posture on russia in the most appropriate way. harris: the most significant piece of legislation so far and he ll do that in new york. why do you say, i mean because he s done a lot already, in terms of the economy. but why do you say this is so significant? what he will do coming up this monday? Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. this ndaa is significant, it rebuilds and restores the american military where it needs to be, gets us on track, and i contend is the most important piece of legislation president trump has signed to date and he deserves an enormous amount of credit. harris: i just want to drill down on one point, i want to make sure i understand this, low yield nuclear weapons and bumpup in funding for that. why is that necessary, how does that fit in to our whole foreign policy and battle, if you will, battle plan? well, this ndaa, which was negotiated between the house and the senate, i was a confer reon the house side, serve on the committee. including the low yield nuclear weapons, part of the deterence to confront russia, is one piece of the puzzle. the rebuilding of the american military, regrowing our troops Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. posturing by the administration. a lot of that is a part of the diplomatic efforts which have been very effective by president trump and his administration. you listen and read between the lines what we hear from secretary pompeo, from the national security advisor john bolton and others in the administration, they re well aware and very skeptical for good reason of where kim jong-un is heading and whether or not he will keep his end of the deal. north korea has a pattern of not holding up their end of the bargain. what i said before, is absolutely true, i would not want to break my word with president trump if i were kim jong-un, i believe we ll get back on track and see the positions forward. harris: congressman banks from the great state of indiana, appreciate your time. all of the details on the legislation that the president is getting ready to sign, we appreciate that, thank you. great to be with you. harris: all right, let s start there, democrat congressman john garamendi of the house armed services committee. i love to get members opposite sides of the political aisle in the same committee. you know details as well about this ndaa that s coming up, fort drum, new york, the president will sign. it seems like there s a lot of toughness on russia. what do you as a democrat say about what the president is getting ready to do? well, there s absolutely no doubt that the congress, both the senate and the house, did a good piece of work on the ndaa, the national defense authorization act. jim did a good job laying out many of the important details in it. that bill was strongly supported by the democrats, including myself, both in committee as well as on the floor of the house. in its initial passage as well as the final conference report of which i was also would be of the conferees and supported the report. it s a good piece of legislation. it seriously strengthens the american military, particularly the presence in europe. and provides a very good counter point to the helsinki conference in which the issue of russia, the united states was in question. going forward, we re going to be well positioned. the president signs it that, s a good thing. fort drum, nice place to sign it. now the implementation of the sanctions, critically important. harris: it is important to hear you as a democrat say this. because as we head in to the mid-term elections, there s so much of that, that partisanship that happens. but when you say this is a very good counterpart to helsinki, the president took criticism from both sides of the political aisle. from what you say, we have now moved beyond that point with strength, and a whole lot of areas with the ndaa, particularly with regard to russia. that entire period of time when the nato conference in helsinki raised questions about exactly where america was with regard to nato, protecting europe, and the rest. this ndaa really puts a very clear sign out there, that we re standing strong with nato, we re going to be on the eastern perimeter of nato, and we re going to have the resources there. and the sanctions add to that. this is very, very important. it s absolutely clear that putin will push wherever he sees weakness. and we don t want any weakness, period, in the nato issue, in the european alliance. so, yes, this is important. jim banks laid it out very well, i won t go back over all of the ground he covered. except to say this is a bipartisan very strong support from both sides of the aisle. there were a happenedful of democrats, handful of republicans that did not vote for it, for specific reasons, fine. but, hey, america stands strong, with our european allies as well as in the pacific. so we can go into all of those things if you d like to. bottom line of it is, america is pushing back against putin. harris: i m glad you re on the record, the nation watches and wonders if congress can come together even against some one, a country that meddled in our election and has been so aggressive, nerve agent use in great britain. i want to move on to this point, because politically as we head in the next 89 days, if you can believe it, from the mid-term elections, we head into that, the politics that some democrats are using now against the president have to do with where the president is not as tough as the previous administration under barack obama. but with what you describe, that is no longer a talking point. would you say that this president is on par, if not exceeding what we have seen in the past? well, you can debate that back and forth. i don t think there s any doubt that barack obama, given the period of time in which he was president, keep in mind there was a sequestration that went through most of his administration. that was a compromise between the democrats and the republicans, almost six years ago. the result of that, there was a very, very limited amount of money available for all programs, both the military as well as other domestic programs. that carried on throughout his administration. he constantly called for an end of sequestration as did both democrats and republicans. it actually didn t happen until just this last six months ago with the omnibus. that was another very short, in this case a two-year reprieve from the see christration limb sequestration limitations. the question for us going into this election is what are we going to do about that. do keep in mind the american treasury has a significant deficit. it will be tough issues going ahead. they will be part of the campaign. harris: congressman garamendi, president obama was in office as we saw the russians attack our democracy in the election. and so i understand what you re saying about sequestration but there was a lot happening under his presidency. and we re trying to right that ship now with a new administration. as you say with this ndaa, make a strong force ahead and move past helsinki. great to see you, we ll bring you back. you got it, thank you. harris: democrats taking what many see as unprecedented steps in their quest for thousands of documents on president trump s supreme court choice. are they going too far? plus, what president trump s attorneys say should be off the table in any possible trump-mueller sitdown as they use some of their harshest language yet. will we see an interview between the two men? stay close. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure? he said the special counsel doesn t need to ask a single question on obstruction, he knows all the answers. they re not going to allow the president to fall into a perjury trap. watch it. we offered him an opportunity to do a form of questioning. he can say glo yes or no. we can do it. if he doesn t want to do it he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. he s going to ask him, did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. the president will say no i didn t. hey, bob, you know it. why do you want to get him underneath? you think we re fools? harris: kevin cork has more from the north lawn. kevin? harris, good afternoon. we have heard before the mayor accuse the mueller team of attempting to trap the president. only now we re getting more specifics about where he thinks the mueller team would hike to go and why the president s attorneys will not allow him to speak with mueller unless there are more conditions met in the meantime. rudy says it comes down to conversations with jim comey and to be sure, if the president remembers a conversation with the former fbi director one way, and the former fbi director remembers that same conversation another way, well, the president could then walk into a perjury trap. here s what the president said on twitter, this is an illegally brought, rigged witch hunt run by people who are totally corrupt and/or conflicted, started and paid for by crooked hillary and the democrats. phony dossier, fisa disgrace, lying and dishonest people fired, 17 angry dems, stay tuned. now, the mueller team and the president s counsel continue to go back and forth over the parameters of a sitdown. but while white house folks consider the pros and cons of the decision by the president to do that, some observers are convinced it ll never happen. i don t think it will happen. i think in the end there will be no sitdown, president trump will get on television and say i wanted a sitdown but mueller wouldn t come up with terms acceptable to the legal team. then we re in court and we re battling probably for years. the case ultimately gets to the supreme court where it will be a draw. i had a chance to speak with a former federal prosecutor this morning and they said the same thing, it s not as if the white house wouldn t perhaps like to see how far they can go in the way of getting some parameters to maybe have a conversation between the president and mueller. but based on everything we know right now, harris, the chances of that happening are slim to none. harris: interesting what dershowitz said, the president gets to tell his base that they might be looking for a sitdown, okay, it s come to an end now, why he would or would not do. that fascinating. thank you, kevin. we ll bring in jamil afterer, former justice department attorney and former clerk for justice gorsuch. great to have you. let s start with that idea that the president answers to the politics of this, the attorneys are looking at whether you should sit down, and what is reasonable as conditions to do that. what would be reasonable? well, harris, this is a fight we ve seen before. bill clinton under the ken starr investigation went back and forth with the special prosecutor when and how he would sit down. he did a video interview, it ended up in a bad place for him. these negotiations are very standard in the process because the president has a lot of reasons to do this in a way that makes sense for him. harris: it s also worth noting that the president will talk with some people outside legal counsel circle, too, some who are maybe not even attorneys. senator graham told me last night that he was asked buy the president as they played golf earlier this week about this very thing. let s watch that. i said mr. president, i ve seen no evidence of collusion between you and the russians, i don t think you colluded with your own government, why do we think you d collude with the russians. i ve been looking at it for two years, you have to be patient and let it run its course, we ll make sure he s treated fairly. harris: he s koups ling him as many others have, just let this play out so it doesn t become a political talking point. there are legal reasons for not stepping in and trying to thwart an investigation. your thoughts? well, that s exactly right. look, the president is getting a lot of legal advice from his team. likely telling him not to sit down with special prosecutor, that it s a potential perjury trap. talking about this publicly, the mueller investigation is going to run its course, that s the reality. the president is not going to be able to change that fact. by going sort of out there on twitter, and laying out sort of what he thinks is his story, at times is changed, is not helpful to him and his lawyers. the best thing the president can do is really stay on his agenda, his topics, not get involved in the back and forth about this investigation. harris: it s interesting that you bring up twitter, because that s where robert mueller has said he d like to focus next. what you indicate isn t what has happened in the past, you re saying from this point on. why do you say that? look, i think the challenge here is that the president obviously wants them to tell a story. he wants to sit down with the prosecutors and talk about what his view is. he thinks he can actually win this conversation with bob mueller. the reality is bob mueller is a serious prosecutor, serious group of people on the team. this is not the mace you want to be and have this debate. at the end of the day the eggs very is going to do what it s going to do. the president ought to, you know, get off the topic, focus on his agenda, a lot of things he wants to do that are positive for the country, focus on that before going back to bob mueller and continue to make russia the primary story in the news. harris: i find it fascinating, can you respond or not, but why does everybody talk about entrapment when they talk about robert mueller, is that his special difficult? special gift? should that be the goal? no, it s to find out the facts. harris, this often happens with special prosecutors. they do a long investigation and they end up charging folks about things that have literally nothing to do with the investigation but what happened during the investigation. lying to the investigation. we saw that with mike flynn. that s a challenge for anybody who s being interviewed or talking about these issues. the president has a lot of things that have happened during time and he has different views how the events went. so that s going to cause him challenge going forward. he s got to be cautious that, is a thing, lying to a federal prosecutor is a crime, that s a problem. harris: former d.o.j. attorney and bush 43 white house legal counsel jamil jaffers, thank you. prosecutors trying to make their case for banknd fraud charges against paul manafort before they finish up tomorrow. a live report on that case. stay close. sometimes, bipolar i disorder but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by talking to your doctor. ask about vraylar. vraylar is approved for the acute treatment of manic or mixed episodes of bipolar i disorder in adults. clinical studies showed that vraylar reduced overall manic symptoms. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction, or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol and weight gain; high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death; decreased white blood cells, which can be fatal; dizziness upon standing; falls; seizures; impaired judgment; heat sensitivity; and trouble swallowing may occur. you re more than just your bipolar i. ask about vraylar. harris: new developments in the manafort trial, prosecutors are focused on the bank charges with their first with it of the day. employee for citizens bank testifying manafort signs documents climbing his man hat an condominium as a second re dense instead of rental property. prosecutors likely rest tomorrow, the judge indicated he wants, with the defense expected to take it up. peter doocy is live outside the courthouse in alexandria, virginia. for the first time this trial, first time this morning, judge manafort judge ellis apologetic to the mumer team he s been giving group to. they filed a court document complain hook e was prejudicing being prejudicial against them in front of the jury. this all really got in the government came to a head in the government s opinion yesterday, when the judge really dressed down the mueller team because he found out that a government witness had been sitting in the courtroom watching the proceedings before taking the stand. the judge was very unhappy. he apparently realized later he never prohibited with its from watching. he told the mueller team in front of the the jury this robe doesn t make me anything other than human, any criticism of counsel should be put aside. but the judge who has been very concerned with keeping the trial moving along changed his tune this afternoon when the mumer team tried to introduce mueller team tried to introduce a long exhibit, the judge said there might be some kind soul on the jury who feels they need to leave through this and it isn t leaf. the mueller team admitted 11 pages of the exhibit. right now a government with it representing airbnb is testifying, former navy seal who runs customer service for the site named darren evenson, testifying that one of the properties paul manafort certified as not being a second home so he could get a mortgage was a rental property listed to be airbnbed ee. the employee said there s no user named paul manafort in their system. most of the morning was taken up with testimony from a mortgage processor who works at citizens bank. the jury watched as dozens of slides showing paul manafort s signature were presented. the mueller team alleges that he signed knowing that information was false even though there are warnings on the paperwork that says if you sign and you know the stuff is wrong there could be a criminal penalty. harris? harris: i know just in the last few minutes as you have been reporting that they re really trying to pin a lot on rick gates. so that will be an interesting component of all of this. peter doocy, thank you. let s bring in fred teecy, criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor. what stands out today s testimony? well, it s interesting that this judge apologized to the prosecution and in front of the jury. i ll tell you, that cuts two ways for the government. it makes the judge human and it creates tremendous credibility for him in front of the jury. harris, over the years, analytical studies show that jurors look to see who they think the judge favors. if the government has a really strong case then who the judge favors is irrelevant. but if the case is not as strong as the government would like to think and the jury thinks the judge doesn t particularly care for it, it could hurt the prosecution. harris: interesting. it also speaks to the issue, too, from the very interesting the judge set parameters to make sure that this stayed about paul manafort and the things we have seen with paul manafort long before he even touched the trump campaign, that s significant as well. it is significant. but that s what he s supposed to do. this indictment is about things that happened long before paul manafort went to work for trump. this notion that the government was going to beat him over the head with his open wealth is improper. in some cases the defendant s net worth is relevant, you go to show that he didn t have had a lot more income than he declared n this case they knew how much money the guy had, that he didn t declare. there was no reason to look at all of his assets to determine how much money he made. harris: well but there s always a reason, you squeeze him. of course they squeeze him, i mean that s what this is all about. this is about the government trying to take manafort, convict him, put him in prison for a long time. i was a prosecutor, we said when we had cooperating with its we wanted to help we d give them a little prison therapy and let them stay there and wait to see how long it was before the defense lawyer called and said we want to make a deal. i m note sure it s going to work in this case. harris: the judge also said let s keep it rolling along. what is the importance of that? you know, a couple of things. everybody remembers the o.j. simpson case, judge ito lost control of the courtroom, a crime that took about eight minutes took over a year to try. judge ellis is well aware he needs to control his courtroom and move it along. now, some people would say that that puts the government in position of not being able to present all of the evidence they want. i can tell you, harris, having tried a lot of cases in my lifetime, we as trial lawyers, everybody that s trying it, 1,000 things you want to put, in ultimately you need 400 or 500 of them. ellis knows this, it is not his first rodeo. harris: robert mueller, his fbi team, or his special investigation team i should say, special counsel, taking a look at this to see, what would they see they want to go forth with, anything? well, a bunch of things. obviously, they want to get a conviction f they don t get a conviction it s going to raise a lot of questions. i m not so sure how much of a difference that will make. the public is like jurors, they felt their information, which ever way they want. if manafort gets akwated people who think the mueller thing is a witch hunt and political hoax will feel vinld kated, people who hate the president will think it s an anonely and on to the next victim or the next defendant. harris: great to have you, thanks. thanks for having me. harris: developing as well a massachusetts man channelled with offering $500 on twitter to any one who would kill a federal immigration officer. federal prosecutors in boston are saying he tweeted repeatedly that he wanted to slit the throat of a u.s. senator. the suspect was snabd in new york where he s expected to make an initial appearance. leah gray breel from the fox news gabriel, it s unbelievable. authorities say in 2009 the suspect created a twitter account and then over time began tweeting violent and threat nipping statements. 33-year-old brandon zabrowski was arrested in queens, new york, scheduled to appear in brooklyn the afternoon. according to court documents it was senator john mccain s throat he repeatedly tweeted his desire to slit. it was just this year he started threatening law enforcement agents that work for u.s. immigration and customs enforcement. one tweet he said he hoped i.c.e. agents would die so there would be less of them o july 2nd when he offered to pay some one to kill them. saying, quote, i am broke but will scrounge and literally give $500 to anyone who kills an i.c.e. agent. take me seriously. who else can pledge, get in on this, let s make this work. today at a press conference in boston the boston fbi special agent in charge gave a stern warning to those who think they can operate anonymously on the internet, saying every threat is taken seriously. also the u.s. attorney described what it means to cross that line on social media. take a listen. now, there is on a parallel track people who voice strong views about immigration debate, that s all fine, i m sure the vast month jrt of them don t want to see anyone come to harm. there is a point at which rhetoric veers into irresponsible and sometimes criminal acts. authorities say he crossed that line, charged with one count of use of interstate and foreign commerce to transmit a threat to injure another person. he will be transferred to boston to appear in court at a later date, he could face up to five years in prison for crossing that line. harris: thank you. vice president mike pence revealing new details about president trump s newly proposed space force, why the white house says it is essential to our national security. i love space. so you just walk around telling people geico could help them save money on car insurance? 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(vo) ask your healthcare provider if ozempic® is right for you. harris: vice president pence made the case for a space force to become the sixth branch of the military. you know i love military stories. the trump administration set the goal of 2020 for the creation of this but it will need support from congress to make it happen. let s get more information about space. tristan fisher in washington. good to see you. good to see you, harris. the vice president is proposing a major reorganization of the u.s. military. he s talking about creating an entirely new branch of the military for the first time in more than 70 years. he told top brass at the pentagon the time has come to write the next chapter in the history of the u.s. armed forces and prepare for the next battlefield. he believes that battlefield is space. to that end, he outlined four steps that the trump administration is directing the pentagon to take immediately. create a space operations force and a new unified combatant command for space, the united states space command. the administration wants to create a space development agency to acquire the latest cutting edge war fighting technologies. those three things can be done right away without congressional approval. they want to create a new political appointee, assistant secretary of defense for space. now that would require senate approval. the vice president is saying that all of this is necessary because of recent aggressive actions by russia and china, targeting some of the nation s most sensitive spy satellites. their actions make clear our adversaries have transformed space into a war-fighting domain already. the united states will not shrink from this challenge. under president trump s leadership we will meet it head-on. to defend our nation. and build a peaceful future here on earth and in space. and the big wildcard here, is congress. will they approve this hefty price tag to create an entirely new branch of the military? we have to wait and see. but many of the things that the president the vice president laid out, those can be done or begin to be implemented without congressional approval. harris: fascinating, they have so much more information that they probably can t tell us in terms of what is coming down the pike with regard to the technology in this end. so important and interesting. appreciate your time today, kristin, thank you. my pleasure. harris: lindsay graham demanding to know why the fbi warned dianne feinstein about a chinese spy on her staff, but did not do the same with a warning for then-candidate donald j. trump in 2016 as they zeroed in on some former campaign officials. is this a double standard? stay close. california phones offers free specialized phones. like cordless phones, top republican senator demanding answers now after learning the fbi informed democrat senator dianne feinstein she shad a suspected chinese spy working for her, failed to warn then candidate donald trump about concerns regarding some former campaign officials. senator lindsay graham says he wants an explanation. watch it. i m going to send a letter to director ray next week and ask him what is the policy, why didn t you tell president trump you had concerns about carter page? is there a double standard here? if this was a counter intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation, the fbi should have told president trump they had concerns about papadopoulos and page. why didn t they do what they did for feinstein? harris: the power panel katie pavlich, basel smikel, former dreck to have the new york state democratic party. bet you re busy leading up to the mid terms. when i interviewed the senator i said can we add the name paul manafort and rick gates to this, too. is this a double standard? help out senator feinstein but don t help out the republican candidate for president? i don t know if it is a double standard but i don t know if there is a standard. harris: that s not good. no, it s not. what happened in the feinstein case is slightly different with respect to the president of the united states. because there was an individual who had clear contact with some one who was trying to get information out of him. in the case of the president, what we believe, or we have seen thus far, there are a lot of people around him that had previous ties to russia. we don t know what those ties were. that s the substance of it. harris: are you defending the president s case against robert mueller! i m not defending the president, don t get me in trouble. [laughing] harris: they are the facts. this mueller investigation trying to get to the heart of these relationships. it should be played out. that s my point. katie: you ask whether there s a double standard. paul sperry has an incredible piece in the new york post about the way dianne feinstein has handled the chinese over the course of her career. 189 of the first 199 of the first time the fbi warned her the communist regime would try to predict her. that same year her his band did $100 million worth of deals for the chinese of the reason she s worth $52 million is because of her husband s business ties to china. so she took the warning, didn t do much about it. harris: but she fired the person. then refused to press charges against him. she was asked whether she wanted to press charges. she may not have known her driver, who allegedly didn t have access to sensitive information, i hope she was watching her phone calls in the car, may not have known what his ties to the communist government were, thee may have not transmitted classified information. but the point is dianne feinstein benefitted from her contact with china, helped them come into the world trade organization, the fbi is trelg me they might influence me but we re going to take money with my connections to china, they have over the past 20, 30 years. they kept the connection open and dianne feinstein is a rich woman as a result of it. harris: separate from that employee who she fired, but that s some interesting information especially for a person who couldn t pick up an endorsement from your party. there are other reasons for that. harris: i don t know, katie may have more information about that than we know. i don t draw the line between this action and the making money. i understand your point. i disagree. but i would say her decision not to file charges here, mainly comes from the fact that the fbi said there wasn t really any information exchanged that was at all sensitive. they were asking this guy about local elections. there wasn t anything but she got rid of him. harris: when you settle on, excuse me katie, when you settle on the word spy that s specific? kwp pretty specific. i would say dianne feinstein reacted to warnings from the fbi about chinese infiltration doing more business with xhien a. the trump administration has reacted to russian meddling putting in more sanctions against russia. who different reactions. harris: watch monday when the ndaa gets signed. we ll be back. no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? you could start your search at the all-new carfax.com that might help. show me the carfax? now the car you want and the history you need are easy to find. show me used minivans with no reported accidents. boom. love it. 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The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. meaning, is he going to say okay if they don t come to an agreement on an interview? i ll just write a report without it. is he going to launch a subpoena fight, which will take months and months and months. and go to the supreme court. exactly. and it s risky for robert mueller to do that. because he might not win. and it just really depends on what he has and what he thinks he needs to ask the president. so it s so unknown that the trump legal team is and particularly on the political side of it, they re doing what they have to do. and guiliani, along with the president, and jay sekulow, to a lesser extent, they have realized that what they have control over right now is the court of public opinion. sure. and so they re going to continue to push that. and they also realize, especially guiliani, when i talked to him about this particular issue, that the democrats are really, really energized. and republicans are more cocomp. and that s been obvious in all the special elections. and they think, well, maybe if there is a threat of impeachment of the president, that could get republicans energized. which is what devin nunes was trying to do at that fund-raiser where we have the audio. i ll play that in a moment. first i want to get your reaction from the fox news sound last night. rudy guiliani went on for this interview on fox last night, and then he made an argument that there would be a violation of doj rules by mueller if he doesn t wrap it up. let s listen to what he said. well, i think if it isn t over by september, then we have a very, very serious violation of the justice department rules. the reality is, the real story here is not that this case isn t going to fizzle, it s going to blow up on them. the real question is what we were talking about before. there s a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. a lot more to the obstruction of justice, to the collusion, to the fake dossier. okay. there are two questions about what answer. let me ask you the first. and that is, a 60-day rule? so what he s talking about is not a hard and fast rule. it s a custom and tradition. and what the custom and tradition is inside the justice department is to avoid taking explicit public investigative steps, or returning indictments against a candidate for office within 60 days of an election. now, the president of the united states is obviously not up for re-election. however i mean, it s a unique situation. he effectively is on the ballot. and comey did it. and comey did it when hillary clinton really was on the ballot. yeah. and that was and that s a big part of the criticism of comey for doing that. he broke that custom. so this is what why guiliani is making the argument. and that s why when we talk about this dragging into the mid terms, it s it s a question of whether or not mueller is going to continue his investigation, but assuming he will follow these guidelines, but do it quietly. not do anything meaning, not say i m going to interview the president between labor day and election day or return indictments in that window. he could continue to work, and then pick it up in a public way after the election. i mean, it s pretty clear that rudy guiliani is capitalizing on mueller s silence here. mueller hasn t said nor will he say anything publicly about this. he s not giving any interviews, et cetera. and when you heard guiliani at the end of that sound bite say there is a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet, do you know what he s talking about? no. no. i mean, i assume it s just the same trying to paint the mueller investigation, the mueller team, as partisan, as the witch hunt, is the term they like to use. beyond that, i don t know that we have any specifics. but it is noteworthy that guiliani continues to really throw as much out there as he can. and he s pretty obvious about it. it s not like a big mystery what their strategy is to try to stir things up. use as bold language as they possibly can. in a very donald trump way. because for donald trump, in various venues, it s been successful. it works. dana, stay with me. and manu is with us, as well. let s all talk about what i mentioned with devin nunes, the republican congressman of california, huge strump support trump supporter, he gave this very expensive private fund-raiser ask, someone was in there recording. he was talking about the mueller probe and the importance he sees for republicans to, of course, he argues, stay in the majority in november because of the mueller probe. here s what he said. so therein lies so it s like your classic catch-22 situation, where we re at a this it puts us in a tough spot. recessions won t cover we re the only one. which is really the danger. that s why thank you for saying that, by the way. i mean, we have to keep all these. we have to keep the majority. if we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away. manu, why is that significant? well, this is the first time we are hearing devin nunes say so bluntly that the house republican majority is necessary to help the president, protect the president, from robert mueller. that is a pretty stark assessment from the house intelligence committee s chairman, who has been accused for months and months and months by democrats for doing exactly that. using his committee perch to try to protect the president from the mueller investigation. you ll recall, poppy, last year he came under enormous controversy when he went to the white house to greet the president about something he thought was improper. he later was forced to step aside from that investigation. the democrats try to push for a number of witnesses and subpoenas. nunes continually squashed those efforts, and he tried to move forward with his own investigation that is now moving at a rapid pace to look after what the justice department and how the if fbi conducted the russia probe, all to paint the picture this was a very nefarious act taking place by the fbi and launching the investigation in the first place. now we are hearing, perhaps his real motivation behind this, he believes it s necessary to protect the president from the mueller investigation. so it s a pretty remarkable assessment. and also standing beside a republican leader, cathy mcmorris-rogers, someone who has been on this very issue, pretty remarkable to hear him say that. who struggled a lot on tuesday. she particularly. dana. can i just add to echo what david was saying around here internally this morning. it s not his job to protect the president. it s actually constitutionally the job of congress to check the executive branch. The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. leader. the washington leader in their party. and so that separating themselves of the leadership is a very important tool, democrats believe, on a national level to getting elected on a local level. and we re really seeing that across the board. if those democrats do get elected yeah. nancy pelosi could be in serious jeopardy. if they keep those promises. and this is someone, manu, who has raised so much money for the party. i mean, you can be very critical of her, but she is good at fund-raising. no question about it. that s one reason why a lot of democrats want to keep her. but to echo dana s point, she has a real math problem. if the democrats take the majority in the fall. if the democrats keep the majority, but let s say they have maybe 10 to 20-seat majority, she probably will not have the votes on the floor to become the speaker. so a huge problem for her, which is why a lot of pelosi critics say why not step aside now, take away that issue that republicans are seizing on in the campaign trail, because it s going to be very difficult to become speaker again, given all the opposition from the left flank of the party, poppy. dana bash, with the blonde hair, manu raju not blonde hair. great hair, too. he does have a good head of hair. gray hair. thank you both very much. still to come, paul manafort s trial back under way this morning. the prosecution is preparing to rest its case this week. the defense takes its last shot at the government s star witness, rick gates. also, new york congressman, chris collins, defiant after being indicted for securities fraud. we ll speak to one of his republican colleagues. also ahead, it has been nearly one year since the tragic events in charlottesville that killed this woman, heather heyer. we take a look at the lives lost and will also remember her speaking with one of her closest friends. as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. nothing smells greater than the great outdoors. especially when you re in accounts receivable. only one detergent can give you a sniff like this. try gain botanicals laundry detergent. one of the many irresistible scents from gain. whoooo. you rely on tripadvisor so you don t miss out on the perfect hotel. but did you know you can also use tripadvisor so you don t miss out on the best price? 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reporter: and i continue to press for answers, poppy. just got off the phone with a spokesperson from the government of puerto rico, and they are saying, look, this is not new information. and in a way, what they re saying makes a little bit of sense here. these numbers actually came out in june. what happened in june? well, we sued, and after we sued, the judge ordered the release of information from the registry of demographics in puerto rico that really highlights the stats when it comes to deaths after hurricane maria. but this was now made even more public in a report that they submitted last night to congress in which they continue to say that the official death toll remains at 64. but acknowledge that in the statistics, when you look at the number of deaths after hurricane maria, there is that increase of 1,427. but just now, when i was speaking to the government, they still continue to say, even though we re seeing this increase, we are not prepared to say that all of those were related to hurricane maria. so why is that? well, they commissioned a study back in late january, early february, from george washington university to look into the deaths, and the government has said publicly that until that study is complete, they don t plan to make any changes to the official death toll. despite our investigation that found the number could be nine times higher. despite harvard university s study that found it could be anywhere from 800 to 8,000 deaths related to hurricane maria. given the conditions that came after the hurricane, right? because those that happened right during the hurricane. and then there were all the deaths that came because of lack of power, because of lack of water, because of the condition of daily life after hurricane maria. so when do we expect this study commissioned by the puerto rican government to come out? i just talked to them on the phone, and they tell me they expect more information from that study this month. but once again, another acknowledgement from the government that the number, 64, is not correct. but they re not willing to change it just yet. and to be clear, layla, this number, 1,400 american citizens, that came out the day after you, cnn, filed this lawsuit to get answer? reporter: right. it actually came out the day the judge ruled in our favor. the day after the judge ruled in our favor, saying, listen, puerto rico, you have to release these numbers for public records so that we can get to the bottom of this. the next day was when the government put out this number that you re now seeing once again in the report are that went to congress last night as they asked for more funding for recovery efforts. you just wonder why it would have to take a judge ruling that way to get straight answers. layla, thank you. under indictment. this morning, new york republican congressman collins chris collins, out on bail, still on the ballot in november, vowing to fight and to beat insider trading charges. th. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. talk to your rheumatologist. right here. right now. humira. oh! oh! ozempic®! 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well, you know, that s obviously up to chris and his family, to go through these difficult decisions that they re going to have to face. and these are serious allegations, and i recognize the seriousness of these allegations. and ultimately, that decision needs to rest with him and his family. so, you know, it was and it remains legal for a sitting u.s. member of congress to sit on the board of a publicly traded company, to profit from that position. that s what he was doing. and a lot of americans, myself included, are asking this morning, really? really? that can happen? do you think it should be legal? well, you know, as we look at our ethics laws, always open to additional reforms. and we did a great step in the stock act, which did a lot to curtail a lot of the abuses from before. open to the improvements going forward. but at the end of the day, you know, this is why there s processes in place. we have the house ethics committee looking at this issue, as well as others. and i ll tell you, that s where these investigations go. i hear you, but the house ethics committee said last november there was reason to believe there was action of concern here. i think it s really sort of a straight question, yes or no answer. should it be legal for a sitting member of congress to sit on the board of a publicly traded company and profit from that position? well, i oh i think that s a fair question. especially when you serve on the health committee that would oversee this stuff. you know, obviously, that s a fair question. and that type of conflict of interest, i don t think it is allowed under existing rules, though, to profit from your position as a member of congress. we ll take a look at that. but obviously, any type of conflict of interest, we need to do a better job in congress to send the message to the people that we re making sure that the integrity of the house is in place, and that no one is above the law. so should a sitting member of congress be able to sit on the board of a publicly traded company? i think there s a serious question there that needs to be answered. what s your answer? what s your answer? yes or no? i would agree with you. i would agree with you. that is an area of reform that needs to occur. so no. oh, no. that s not what i said. no, i think, yes. you know, having that type of conflict of interest is something right, right, right. i m saying i m saying, are you saying no, they should not allow a sitting member of congress should not be allowed to sit on the board of a publicly traded company? yeah, that makes some sense to me. okay. as reforms go forward. all right. let s move on. let s see what happens in congress on that. let s move on to the mid terms. i m sure you saw the piece, front page of the washington post this morning, and the headline is the gop debates the trump effect. so the main take-away here, and they quote a lot of republican strategists who look at what happened tuesday night and the close call still up in ohio. sam are saying it indicates the limits of how much president trump can help across the board in all of the districts, come the mid terms. long-time republican consultant, stevens writes, nothing bodes well, you look at the money spent in ohio, the focus put on it, and you have an early warning sign. it is time for republicans to counteract. the president said after the tuesday races, as long as i campaign or support house candidates within reason, they will win. who is right? i think it s ultimately up to the people. it s not about one action or the other. it s ultimately up to the people. and i think once we get our message about the economy and the 3.9% unemployment rate, lowest in decades, and people see an optimistic future ahead of them, i think we ll do just fine at the mid terms. but at the end day, you ve got to recognize there is energy on the other side of the aisle, and this is going to be a fight that is ultimately left to where it needs to be. the people in those districts that are voting. it s interesting that you say that. there is energy that is growing on the other side among the democrats. david wasserman, house analyst, said, what we saw this week reinforces our view that democrats are a substantial favorite to retake the house. we had democratic governor, jay inslee, of washington state, who chairs the democratic governor s association say, quote, trump has been a great doctor, stitching up our scars and healing us organically. his argument is that the president is helping bring together the democratic party. what do you think? i think, you know, obviously, there s a reason for the energy on the other side of the aisle. and if you look at history, when one party wins the white house, the other party doesn t do too well in those mid terms that follow. but where we stand today is i think we have to put the message of what we re representing and delivering for the american people before the american people. and i think at that if that occurs, and we get that debate, we ll be just fine going into this election. but you ve got to recognize the energy on the other side. congressman reed, do you think that republicans will maintain control of both chambers come november? i think we re in a good position to do that. but obviously, i recognize that that could be a different outcome, given the energy on the other side of the aisle. you know, listening to pundits look at what the pundits did in 2016. no one predicted the outcome on election night of 2016 of that president trump would be the president of the united states. so i don t give a lot of weight to pundits. i take it into consideration. but ultimately, it s up to the voters on november who is going to be in power, who is going to have the majority. and my hope is once we get through that, we start solving problems for the american people back home. all right. congressman tom reed, joining me from rochester this morning. nice to have you. thanks. thank you very much, poppy. still ahead, as we come up on the one-year anniversary, it s this weekend, of the deadly charlottesville protests, we remember her. we remember heather heyer, who was killed during the demonstrations, as well as two police officers. one of heather s closest friends will join me next. it s the ford summer sales event and now is the best time to buy. you ready for this, junior? 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[ applause ] it s a moment none of us will forget. alfred wilson is with me now, a close friend of heathers. thank you for being here. thank you for having me, poppy. you were so close to her. she was close to your three children, including your youngest. and, i mean, you went over to her apartment the day after she died and helped clean it out. and you re very close with her mother. i think my first question to you is, it s been a year. what do you want everyone to know and remember about her always? heather was a very kind young lady. she was a woman that cared about all. she always wanted to make sure that everyone was equally treated. she believed that everyone had a chance, or should have a chance in our society. and that s one of the things i want everyone to basically remember about her. you ve said that it was her, that it was heather heyer, a white woman, who alerted to you the silent racism that exists and is profound. and pro fundally hurtful and painful in this country still today. how did she do that for you? well, heather and i worked together probably about 40 to 50 hours a week. quite often, i would meet with various clients, and a lot of times individuals that we meet with would be introduced and say, oh, you re going to meet with alfred wilson. and some individuals didn t think alfred wilson was a black male. and when i would walk around the corner, i might stick my hand out to shake their hand. and i just oh i guess being around just hadn t noticed it before. but heather would point out and pick up on it very quickly, that individuals may not have stuck their hands out immediately to shake my hand, because was a black male. and she would point that out to me. she would say, alfred, how can you still reach tout to individuals who apparently don t appreciate what you bring to the table for them? i would frequently let her know it s my job to help them, regardless of what their feels may be about me. and she came to point out to me these injustices some would look down on me because i m a black male. you said four months after she was killed, you said, quote, i would say our society killed her. what do you mean? our society killed her in that the political climate that we ve actually voted and put ourselves in, made people feel like it s okay to speak up and say the things they re saying. the negative, hateful things they re saying now. our political climate over a year ago, we didn t have individuals being so bold or brass about the things they re doing. on a daily basis, i m the co funder of the heather heyer foundation and executive director. so i monitor the e-mails that come in, and on a daily basis, i m getting e-mails where individuals people like it s okay to sit there and say negative things about race or to sit there and say hateful things about, oh, they re glad that heather died. i don t understand how someone can be that bold. and the only reason they re that bold is because of our political climate at this point has made it seem like it s okay to say such things. well, the language that president trump used in the wake of the unite the right rally and the events of charlottesville was and will always be remembered as both sides. so if he were to address it this weekend, one year later, what would you like to hear? well, to be honest, it s kind of hard for me to still acknowledge that person that you re talking about is president. i still call him mr. trump or donald. from him, i would hope that he s opened his eyes, think about what he s saying. one of the things that susan always sits there and points out, you must think about what you re saying. but i would hope you would think about what he s saying and have some empathy about what s happening in our society. realizing that all black, brown people. all people of different religious, we all have a contribution to this country. if it wasn t for the tdiversity in our country, america wouldn t be the america it is. i ll end on this. i ve read something you said recently, that struck me, alfred. you said that heather would have been, in your words, kicking with joy from the soulful movement that has flowed from the tragedy that ended her life. yes. she would heather was a quiet person. she kept to herself. she wouldn t be the one that s out hire publicly speaking, constantly. but she would be the one standing up, making people aware about what s happening. so she would be very happy that we are still as a society having difficult conversations. and that s one of the things that she constantly had. she would have those different transformations, bring situations to the light. allow people or get people to try to understand what s happening. so i knew she would be very excited and very pleased to see that we are still having these kinds of conversations and that we re trying to make some kind of change. yeah. alfred, thank you for being here. i know this second going to be hard for you. we re taking about you and your kids through it all. thank you for sharing this with us. thank you for your time, as well. and thanks for having me. all right. again, we all remember heather heyer, the foundation set up in her name, the heather heyer foundation. i ll be right back overwhelming air fresheners can send you running. so try febreze one. with no aerosols and no heavy perfumes. so you can spray and stay. febreze one. get details on this state program. call or visit monitor their blood glucose every day. which means they have to stop. and stick their fingers. repeatedly. today, life-changing technology from abbott makes it possible to track glucose levels. without drawing a drop of blood, again and again. the most personal technology, is technology with the power to change your life. life. to the fullest. and accessoriesphones for your mobile phone. like this device to increase volume on your cell phone. - ( phone ringing ) - get details on this state program call or visit all right. so this morning a florida family wants answers. and they want answers from frontier airlines, after they say their two young children ended up spending a night in a hotel room with an employee from the airline. according to the reports, the children, 7 and 9 years old, were flying unaccompanied as minors from iowa to orlando when their plane was diverted to atlanta because of bad weather. let s go to our aviation and regulations correspondent, rene marsh, who joins me now. there are a lot of questions, right? was it protecting the kids to have them stay with an adult in a hotel room, or are they arguing there was something that happened to these kids in that hotel room? reporter: right. that is the big question. i mean, the parent, at least the father, is raising this concern that this airline employee spent the night with the children in the hotel. but it s unclear. is he insinuating that something happened during that time? and exactly what is upsetting him? i did speak with people within the industry who say that it appears the airline went above and beyond, making sure these minors were accompanied at all times. i ll tell you that the flight was from des moines, iowa, and supposed to go to orlando. it was diverted to atlanta, due to bad weather. now, the father of the children told our affiliates that he did not hear from the airline throughout the whole process. and the only way that he received any notification was from another unaccompanied minor who had a cell phone and let his son use the phone. the father also said that he was troubled that the airline employee drove in their personal vehicle and spent the night with the children in that hotel. now, the airline is pushing back. they re saying that they followed their policy to provide a hotel in this sort of situation for the unaccompanied minors and provide a chaperone at all times. they also say their records show that the children were in contact with their mother before being transported to the hotel,