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thank you, mike. thousands of protestors flooding the streets in new york city. the protestors held signs and chanted as they walked along sixth avenue all to express the rage over the recent grand jury decisions not to indict the police in the deaths of michael brown and eric garner. day long. what was the protest like? julie, we are talking about tens of thousands of protestors and covering dozens of city blocks in manhattan. look at the march from the aerial shot. it started at 2:00 p.m. and went back north and then south. it is the head quarters for the police department. and the protestors shouting hands up don t shoot and black lives matter and racist cops have to go. today is called the national day of resistance specifically in new york. and they are demanding the creation of a office. and firing of nypd police commissioner. and families of victims of unarmed black men killed including ron davis, 17-year-old shot and killed by a white man for playing loud music in a florida gas station. we don t want to lose our family members in vain. we come out and help them protest and make change to america. the nypd said there are no arrest or incidents and organizers planned protest in 50 cities today. this was not only eric guarder and michael brown. organizers say they want more than just reform? 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reporter s privilege and confidential sources and i don t believe you can have a democracy without aggressive reporting and freedom of the press. and justice department officers said jeffrey sterling leaked it to risen in iran in the clinton administration and risen used that information in the 2006 book. sterling s lawyer said if the result of attorney general not issuing a subpoenas and compelling him to reveal the sources that his department of justice fought for all the way to the supreme court, then three year was mr. sterling s life is wasted. and so should journalist like james risen held more accountable or forced to reveal sources. would it put us in harm. tweet me and we ll read the answers in the show. america s best is pausing to remember a milestone in world war ii. it was 70 years ago of the battle of the bulge. and that is from both sides of the atlantic gathered in belgium to honor thousands of heroes. and the ceremony took place in the town nearby where many shops and 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troops. the taliban warning more violence lies ahead. and millions march here in new york city. a pieceful demonstration today. protestors expressing qh2léoutr over the grand jury decision not to indict the officers. family members of eric guarder calling for change. it started in freedom placea and walked down pennsylvania avenue and held a rally in the steps of the capitol. rich edson was in the thick of it. reporter: thousands, passionate and peaceful and gathered in protest in washington s pennsylvania avenue. the latest after the grand jordeclined to indict police officers in the deaths of black men. they say that congress should take the power to investigate and charge police officer involving deaths from the local officials and grand it to the federal government. washington is going to be silent, they are not part of the solution. we need the laws to bring the change. marchers stopped a few hundred yards away from the capitol where they addressed crowds of thousands more than 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later. are you worried about the russians hacking us? no, i m not worried at all. russian espionage on the streets of new york city. i take the post of the people in street justice. and even find a little love. you re getting married? why question it. when you fall in love, what you do? you run. justice starts now i will speak with press secretary spicer. first, my opening statement. politics get get in the way a lot. sometimes, even in the way of dying kids. i wanted to start tonight with all the enthusiasm of the first children s foundation. permit a few differences. eric trump was not penniless or in debt when he started the eric trump foundation. he did not start that foundation to make money, and he certainly did not become rich because of it. here is what his own wife told me in florida. he started the eric trump foundation to help kids with cancer. in fact, he such a humble guy, i didn t i didn t even know about it. he started at the year before we met and it was almost like he didn t want to toot his own horn to say look what i did. on the show, i remember him saying that 100% of the proceeds go to the kids. it s very important to eric. this is something he has always worked so hard for. he works his hardest at the eric trump foundation, and i have seen him negotiate pennies off accomplishments like the intensive care unit at st. jude s opened in february 2015 before his dad was ever a candidate for anything. all the monies raised, almost 100%, given to the charity for the foundation. millions, almost 20 million operated with one employee. eric shouldering operating costs himself. so this past christmas eve, those children not dreaming of toys or sugarplum fairies, but the ones praying there next chemo or lead transfusion wouldn t hurt so much. some even praying that death wouldn t visit their rooms that night, hoping maybe, just maybe, an angel would come with a gift. not a gift of toys, but the gift of life all because of a young man named eric. they lost that night. yes, it was the unluckiest of them all who suffered that night because a young man who did nothing but good for all the right reasons could not continue to do good, because evil was assumed to be the norm as scrooge and the ghost of the clintons past visited the eric trump foundation and the children who benefited. that is my (tell me what you think of my facebook page or twitter. hashtag judge janine. joining me me now by phone, president-elect trump son, and executive director of the trump organization and founder of the eric trump foundation, eric trump aired this is his first television interview since expense ratio for charities in the world. we are so fortunate. it s one of the great benefits or perks of having a great organization with great assets that you can use practically for free. we raised so much money for st. jude s. the second someone is elected into public office, you re you re no longer given the benefit of the doubt. no matter how good your track record was or how much great you ve done, you re no longer given the elephant of the doubt and sadly, at the the end of the day, the only people who lose as you said so wellin your opening, the only people who lose are some of the sickest kids in the world and those are the kids at saint jude. jeanine: the new york times originally question how much you gave and said there wasn t any evidence to support it and just yesterday, apparently they seem to indicate that clearly you had given well over $16 million. was there any satisfaction from that. i thought it was very nice that they came around and actually admitted how much they donated to the hospital and they said very nice things which was very vindicating. i think there are some people who have said nasty things over the years and that s the political world that we as a family now live in. it s the reality. there will be people who go out and make statements to sensationalize whatever they can and sell newspapers and we will deal with that for the next four or eight years. jeanine: but you know, eric, that must frustrate you because you re not in office, you re not, you re not in the government. we haven t seen you pretty much of since the election because you and your brother that we saw so often are now back in the business. your father is getting ready to run the business of the country, and he has been, actually, since he was elected. does this frustrate you? yes it s frustrating and it s a narrative they will try to keep up for the next four or eight years and it will be a narrative of harassment. sadly again, it s too long. it s millions and millions of dollars going to the best pediatric research hospital anywhere in the world and that s sad. that is the game that gets played with politics. even if you said there is something to do with the administration, it will be the quagmire that we as a family live in for a long period of time. did you expect it would be this difficult, eric? it s been amazing. when i see my father save jobs all over the place, when you see what happened with ford. jeanine: but for you personally eric. i think we all knew when he jeanine: america is were ready to welcome a new president in less than two weeks, but not everybody s onboard. in fact, some, some people on the left are doing their best to subvert democracy and the american way by encouraging people to not even give the incoming president a chance to lead. the chance that he earned, fair and square, back in november. here is left-wing movie director michael moore right after the election talking about what he and his followers are going to be doing in the days up to and beyond the inauguration while donald trump is working tirelessly to fix the country. we are going to resist, we were going to oppose pratt this will be a massive resistance. there is already, women are calling for 1 million women march. jeanine: okay so it s indicative of a movement on the left to delegitimize the new president. joining me now to talk about that and more is white house press secretary sean slicer. jeanine: it was really an emotional piece. his foundation that he is forced to separate himself from from because nothing that he has done, he s not even in the government, but because of the behavior, i believe the clintons and all of the attacks on that foundation that i believe were legitimate, but now we have people saying, let s stop president trump before he even gets there. the man hasn t stopped working. how are you going to convince these people that donald trump was elected fair and square and let s give the man a chance. there s a couple things, judge. first, it is sad that eric trump worked so hard for st. jude s because the only people who lose are those children are the children of st. jude. it is sad because the losers are the people they worked so hard to help. getting to your question, look, on november 8, donald trump 130 straight trump 130 states. nine of 13 battleground states, over 2600 counties and flipped counties that barack obama carried in 2012. i m not sure how much more resounding of a win win you can get. the movement that he led spoke loud and clearly on election day more portly, to your point, since he took that stage at 2:50 am and talked about uniting all americans, he has worked tirelessly, not only to put together probably the most amazing cabinet ever seen, but to get results whether it s carrier or sprint and talking about thousands of jobs that he is personally working to bring back to this country, or saving the american taxpayers millions and billions of dollars through his work to lower the cost of on of air force one. a guy who is still 13 days from office still has a track record as president elect that most would like to have as president. jeanine: but sean, the positive that the president-elect can talk about are clear. i think that most people are blown away by the fact that the man is even working 247, but more importantly, it s not just democrat or progressive or left, it s almost anarchist or communist, revolutionary communists taking out ads thing we ve got to stop this man. is there concern for the inauguration? they re talking about protest, do whatever they can to stop donald trump. look, i think more more of these individuals are finding themselves in the minority. there will be a historic record of people because the movement that donald trump has led is a movement of change, a movement that finally taps into the frustration that so many american workers are finally saying thank you for in understanding what i ve been saying for so long and been so forgotten. i think that inauguration is going to be a historic one in that it won t just be an amazing day, but it will be the beginning of an amazing eight years for donald trump. at some point the facts will become overwhelming because the number of successes he has both domestically and internationally. at some point, you have to say wow, he has saved the job of a friend or family member. he has lifted up the wages, my healthcare has gone down and i can see the doctor i talked about. i have more educational choices. the inner cities are better. the roads and bridges and infrastructure are getting repaired the way they should of. jeanine: democrats, right now, are being so obstructionist that they re saying we ve got all of these ethical hurdles, before we even get to the confirmation hearing spread i ve never heard of these ethical procedures or hurdles that they have to overcome first. have you? no, you didn t didn t hear about him in 2008 when she chuck schumer voted 42 times to look the other way on democrats that will weren t seeking appointment in the obama administration. you didn t see them when the republicans voted seven of those nominees their confirmation votes on day one and five more the next time and 13 by voice well. republicans acted professionally and responsibly in 2008 and recognize that the president has an opportunity to have the people that are qualified to be in the cabinet. donald trump, as president elect has selected the most qualified cabinet in modern history, if not ever. i think they re getting split by schumer because he s trying to play a political game, but most democrats recognize that the movement wasn t just about republicans but it was about democrats and independents and many of their own constituents. you take a state like missouri where president electra carried it by 19 points but i don t think claire mccaskill is going to want to vote against that kind of overwhelming message when it comes to confirmation pics. not only are they qualified but she has to recognize that she has the answer to her constituents if she doesn t understand the change they voted for in missouri and other states around the country. jeanine: donald trump has an opportunity to continue to change the landscape of those elections going forward. sean, thanks so much for being with us. thank you. jeanine: i m joined by someone calling for protest against president-elect trump. this is a debate you are not going to want to miss. then the congressman is here to talk about the incoming administration as well as his home state of california and their curious move involving attorney general eric holder. are you worried about the russians hacking us? 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are you going to stop the trump hands regime. he was elected fair and square. the electoral college has been certified. were getting ready to roll. what are you going to do to stop them. look, no election, fair or foul should legitimize a fascist regime, and that is what the trump pants regime is. donald trump campaigned as a fascist, he has assembled a team to carry out that fascist agenda, we ve seen this before. the demon nation. he spent the christmas holidays, a time that supposed to be peace on earth and will toward men talked tweeting about a new nuclear arms race. this is what he campaigned on, this is . jeanine: what about, you want to talk about delegitimizing. i have to be honest, donald trump is something i believe in. let me just say this. aren t you delegitimizing the election in the constitution because you don t like the guy. i don t like the guy, but what i don t like like is the agenda he campaigned on. jeanine: but he won. host: but that s what millions and millions of people don t like and they are right not to like it. we have seen this before. hitler came to power through legitimate means. jeanine: you re not comparing donald trump to hitler are you. right, he s different than hitler. he doesn t have that little black mustache, he has the orange squirrel on his head, but he has the agenda of a hitler. jeanine: carl we have to talk about the fascist quality of this regime. jeanine: why don t they have anxiety and fear before donald trump and he hasn t done anything. where is the ink anxiety and fear. it s based upon what he campaigned on. muslim registry. people who burn the flag should have citizenship taken away. this is illegitimate, and it also will be a form of rule that suppresses the civil liberty to fight against these. people have a right to be fearful and that is why we took out this ad and why we are calling on people. refuse fascism.org is calling on people to take to the streets, to display and manifest their refusal to accept jeanine: let s assume they do. what if people come into the streets and do what. come to the streets in washington d.c. where i will be and everywhere else and do everything to show their refusal to accept this regime. nonviolent civil disobedience. protesting in other ways. candlelight vigils. however people want to do it but business as usual in this society has got to be stopped to prevent the trump pence regime. jeanine: are you an anarchist or a communist. it s real clear. i told you i was a communist and i will come and talk too about communism. bring me on another show. jeanine: okay, alright. i wish we had more time. i will bring you on again. tonight i want to talk about stomping this fascist regime. jeanine: i m worried about how far you re willing to go. refuse fascism.org. jeanine: thank you. darrell darrell issa still ahead my friend is getting engaged today. that s so sweet. why would anyone get married but i want to serve justice on russian hacking. at judge justice like 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isis has held mosul from within two years. i am jackie yvonne yes and now back justice with judge jeanine. jeanine: as busy as we close in on just 12 days until the inauguration of our 45th president. joining me now is my political panel are old friends chairman republican strategist david allen and making his debut tonight democratic strategist and former consultant to the department of homeland security. thanks for joining us a gentleman. i want to start with the russian hacking issue and i will start with you david on the issue of whether or not their russian hacking issue is one that has given president-elect donald trump s decision to say you know there was some russian influence over the hacking. did he make a turnaround on this and was it enough? judge, america and did need vladimir putin to know that hillary clinton was corrupt and lying and believed she was above the law. it didn t ultimately impact the election just as in 1960 nikita khrushchev believed he influenced the election when he held you too pilots against his power and wouldn t release him. he believed that hurt nixon. he didn t hurt nixon s chances of getting elected and putin didn t hurt quentin s chances of getting elected. it s a lot about nothing. jeanine: hasn t everybody been spying on everybody for decades? isn t this what looks to read about all of a sudden we are so shocked? judge, you are right. we been spying on them and they been spying on us and this is done all the time but to actually weapon eyes the information, to put it out there to change the election results, to actually create fake news to hack into the system. jeanine: i have to stop you. there is nothing in those e-mails that was never contested c it s not just the e-mails that they put out. actually have russian tv which is television it networks that claimed the united states created neck a chamber to put fakeness information as well as e-mails. election staff. they talked about that the elections are rigged. they kept on putting information out there. that is a documented fact from both the fbi, the nsa and the cia who put out a detailed report. judge, let me jump in here second. jeanine: there s no discussion of any election machines or any numbers being impacted. c absolutely. a bigger impact here for want to talk about how a hack impacted the election although the opm records that got taken by some foreign government is now hundreds of thousands of government employees now have all of their records out there. we had a series of breaches of government servers that release personal data on people. the if it came to a point where americans to just started questioning was their personal safety secured and did this administration do enough and ultimately they decided no. they decided their economic security in their personal security were being taken care by this administration and that s why they said it s time to go in a different direction. look a bit at some point we are going to have to start putting our country head of our party. someone hacking into e-mails and releasing information, someone coming into our country to undermine our elections? we have crossed the line. had hillary clinton not have a server. president-elect donald trump, i will even say he s got a chance but the fact that the russians came in packs into our system and try to undermine elections, he s got to admit to that and you have to admit that and we have got to go on and start making them pay a price for that. jeanine: mustafa, didn t hillary clinton choose putin accuse putin of doing something like that and i hear he was giving even with her. david from are you familiar with that? vaguely. jeanine: go ahead. judge, look putin basically had a vendetta against her because she tried to expose him. she went to the u.n. and made a speech exposing the fact that he was rigging the election so she did her job as secretary of state showing the fact that putin was doing all sorts of underhanded things in terms of breaking their elections. he took it personal offense to it. he then came into the united states to undermine our elections not only to spy on us but to basically create a news channel in our country to use social media. c what voting machines at rates that impacted the results? what voting machine got rates that truly jeanine: thank you for being with us. street justice still ahead and congressman darryl issa, next. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve. that newly listed ranch and wait will be gone.ed for a mortgage, or, you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. skip the bank. get approved in minutes. lift the burden of getting a home loan with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. (whisper) rocket joining me to talk about that a more republican congressmen darryl issa senior member of the house foreign affairs committee. do they even know what they are hiring him to fight with trump about? no, they really don t judge. i can t believe i said that. long long story and i will tell you later but judge cometh one of those amazing things. they are hiring him for the same reason when i became chairman of the oversight committee they increase their staff at the white house in a way of lawyers even before i had asked for the first piece of information. for whatever reason the left-leaning, far left legislature in california wants to fight this administration on anything and everything so they can keep doing what they are doing. jeanine: is in california broke? they are certainly upside down. they have the highest income tax the nation, 13.3%, 8.5 plus% sales tax and they have a budget deficit and businesses are leaving california. one of the greatest states to work and live in except for the government we have. jeanine: you question whether eric holder should even be practicing law, congressman. well it s the only constitutional officer ever held in contempt by congress. he lied to congress and in fact withheld information. we haven t missed him since he left because in fact he was somebody that had no respect for the law they were sworn to defend. jeanine: this retainer into law firm firm that he is in washington d.c. do we have any idea how big it is? well i suspect it s in the seven figures. jeanine: seven s. in millions? in the millions. air colder doesn t come cheap. he is quite a name and he s a rainmaker there but again this is somebody who lying to congress should have lost his bar license. jeanine: interesting that he didn t. let s move onto donald trump and what he s done even before the white house. the latest this week s ford and we heard about carrier a few weeks ago and now ford. you have got mark fields mark fields was talking about the ford plant in what they are doing. i had dinner with mark fields in las vegas at the consumer electronics electronic show just last night. he s excited about a better business climate one in which ford can make investments in the united states and have them pay off and that s a result of this election. you are going to see other companies do that as you say even before president trump is sworn in the part of that is the same reason the stock market has gone up more than 1000 points. they are things you do in anticipation of a good market in their things you do it in anticipation of a government that s not going to be friendly. right now the stock market and ford motor company are gearing up for a better economy one in which we have lower taxes, lower government spending and a pro-business environment that creates jobs in america. jeanine: there would be no subsidies or anything offered? this was a good business decision made by one of the great industrial companies of the world. jeanine: people in michigan even if they didn t vote for him i guess they would benefit, those union s? the rank-and-file workers at or motor company a great many of them voted for donald trump even though the union was saying not to. tonight i think they are very happy that they did. jeanine: congressman i think we are going to see a lot more americans happy with donald trump. anyway congressman darryl issa even though you didn t get my name right, thanks for being with us tonight. thank you, judge. jeanine: the first justice of 2017 straight ahead. stay with us. want powerful relief. only new alka-seltzer plus free of artificial dyes and preservatives liquid gels delivers the powerful cold symptom relief you need without the unnecessary additives you don t. loudspeaker: clean up, aisle 4. alka-seltzer plus liquid gels. wheyou wantve somto protect it.e, at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate plan including wills or a living trust that grows along with you and your family. legalzoom. legal help is here. still trying to find how ara good site.going? 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no, i m not. are you on your break? do you want me to leave? are the russians hacking us? i don t know. do you care? not really. why is congress having hearings on the? they want to distract the public i guess. what are you focused on? money. do you remember the hunt for red october? do remember sean connery do you think we do that kind of thing? no. no, of course not so why is congress having a hearing about hacking? democrats are not happy about trump and they have to do whatever they can. are you worried about the russians hacking us? i m not worried at all. all of a sudden russia is a big enemy of the united states of america. what s the problem? the reason is the democrats lost and they are trying to come up with a reason. that s so sweet. why would anyone get married? are you married? 16 lovely years. i had 16 lovely years too. you were getting married? why? why? are you getting married? do you know someone is getting engaged to your? today? they are putting a sign up. they just told me. i m not lying. you are getting married. why? 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could afford to ease up a little bit, right? and they might have done that if the fund-raiser were just for them but they re not just running clinton for president and kaine for vice president. they don t want to just win the white house. they want democrats to win governorships and control of congress or to get as close as they can. they obviously want democrats to get control of the senate. for the clinton/kaine campaign, it is pedal to the metal from now till the end. 41 fund-raisers from now until november 3rd. he had five today alone. he squeezed me in between them. that s on the democratic side. on the republican side, it s nothing like that at all. mateo gold at the washington post reports tonight that the comparable fund-raiser effort on the republican side is already over. in fact, it ended last wednesday. the washington post reports tonight that donald trump did his last big dollar joint fund-raiser for his campaign in the republican national committee last wednesday and he s not going to do any more. there are no further events planned. quote, we have kind of wound down. from here on out, quote, there is virtually nothing planned. it s hard for me to overstate how strange that is two weeks ahead of the election. the republican nominee is on track to lose the presidential election largely because of the magnitude of his expected loss, republicans are also on track to lose control of the united states senate. election forecasts right now for the senate project a 2-1 chance that democrats will take control of that body. but the reaction of the republican nominee, the reaction of the whole republican presidential campaign is basically to sign off two weeks out. here s tim kaine doing five fund-raisers today. republican presidential nominee donald trump stopped doing fund-raisers for the political party on wednesday. hess saying to the party i m losing this part of the race, you look like you re losing your part, too. you re on your own. lots oluck. this is a remarkable tactical decision. is this a decision or did they just peter out? the trump campaign at this point is like a stage actor who shows is up for the curtain call. just shows up for the applause and wants to be told he did a good job, but he didn t actually participate in the performance let alone do all the preparation work that goes into doing a good job at that performance. what s that campaign now? their candidate is going to places where he gets applause, he definitely still does rallies and stuff. he appears to enjoy that. but what are the rallies for at this point? remarkable piece of reporting from the top political reporter at the arizona republic tonight who is describing what s going on in the key state of arizona. he says the clinton/kaine campaign has 32 fully operational political offices in arizona, 161 staffers working full time to win arizona for clinton and the democrats. what s that competing with on the republican side? donald trump doing rallies. but what are those rallies for other than giving donald trump the experience of people voting for him according to david nowicki, the trump campaign has been passing around sign up tallies. but they don t bother to collect the sheets. they leave them there, nobody picks them up, let alone do anything with them. next door in nevada which is to be a swing state although it s turning increasingly blue. 10,000 bumper stickers, and i don t even get a call back. that s a swing county in a swing state. republican party chairman there saying two weeks out from the election he had the phone number memorized. we bleeped it there so you don t all call it. but he s got the phone number memorized. he calls the trump campaign every day begging for yard signs and bumper stickers and didn t even get a callback. what are they doing that s more important than trying to compete in swing counties in swing states with county chairman that need specific help? what s the trump campaign coulding if they re not doing that? what is the trump campaign, is it just a traveling road show for donald trump to appear at events in front of crows that like him because that makes him feel good. whatever the trump campaign is now and whatever they re planning on doing for the last two weeks, it is unusual. the washington post again reported tonight that trump campaign has effectively cut off the republican party and stopped even trying to help other down-ballot republicans save themselves. and politico.com was the first to report tonight that the republican party in response is hitting the panic button. the panic button is apparently labeled dark money and they punched it big time tonight. according to politico.com this evening mitch mcconnell s senate super pac in conjunction with karl rove remember him mitch mcconnell and karl rove have somehow instantly conjured out of the dark money wilderness a whopping pile of $25 million million which they just announced tonight they ll start shoveling into six contested senate races. they re announcing that tonight. the fastest they can start spending that money is tomorrow. that means they ve got $25 million to spend on senate races over 13 days. if they also spend on election day itself. that is a phenomenal last-minute money dump. and who knows where that money came from? incredibly while they ve decided to do that through the mitch mcconnell super pac, the nominee decided he ll coast to the finish. no more republican party fund-raisers, helping nobody, where can i go to find somebody to tell me that they love me. he does remain on the top of the ticket. he continues to be the republican party s problem and he continues to be the presidential nominee of a major political party. as such he continues to be subject to scrutiny, subject to the kind of full body mri, the kind of full body background check that the national media does on everybody who runs for president. and we have something new to report tonight. the ongoing reporting on donald trump s background tonight has turned up something new and something dramatic and something very, very, very inflammatory that we have got here exclusively next. available. one crucial part of the investigation in that case was an equally qualified white new yorkers would show up at the trump company and they would inquire about those same apartments, magically, the suit alleged the apartment would be back on the market and available for the white applicant even though the black applicant had just been told that that apartment was gone. that doj lawsuit against the trump company was ultimately settled when the trump company signed on the a consent decree where they would desegregate their properties, start renting to black people. that s one of the allegations against the trump corporation for racial discrimination, over the course of this presidential campaign it has become a hot point of contention. hillary clinton raised it in first presidential debate. trump said that the consent agreement reflected no admission of wrongdoing, then after he used that as a rebuttal, newspapers and news outlets have looked into those allegations to the way that suit was settled to the other suits that were brought against trump real estate properties. today alone the las vegas sun published an account from a woman who now lives in nevada who says she was one of the white people who was sent in as a tester at trump properties after a black applicant would allegedly be told that an apartment was not available, she d show up as a white applicant with basically the same qualifications and she d be offered the apartment. that story today in the las vegas sun. the woman recounting her own experience in being involved in the lawsuits. mother jones had another story tonight on additional discrimination lawsuits brought against the trump organization not in the 1970s, but in the 1980s. i can now tell you that nbc news has been working on a report on the way the trump company allegedly discriminated against black people in rental housing. in the course of the investigation they ve turned up what we have exclusively tonight, a troubling eyewitness account from a man who worked as a rental agent at a trump property. he says it was basically his job to do the discriminating. he says he was instructed directly to slow walk or outright reject potential tenants if they were black because they were black. but listen to this. listen to what he told nbc news when he was asked exactly how that instruction came to him and who was in the room while it happened. just take me back into that room. so you were sitting in the room and he was there. describe the scene to me. a black lady completed an application for an apartment in the building, a one-bedroom apartment, as i recall. and it was a very professionally application, it was checked and verified, there were no liens, no judgments against her. and she was calling me on a daily basis wanting to know the status of her application. one day mr. trump and his son donald came into the office, and i asked fred trump what i should do with this application because she s calling me constantly. and his response to me was you know i don t rent to the n-word. put the application in the deck and forget about it. so fred trump used the n-word antold you we don t rent to people like that. that is correct, yes. what was your response? i was employed by them. i did what he said. so this is the raw tape of an nbc producer in that diner right, noisy diner, interviewing this rental agent who worked at a trump property and in the course of explaining basically how he says racial discrimination worked at the trump organization back in the day when they were deciding who to rent to, he just mentions that young donald trump was standing there alongside his father when he says, the father instructed this rental agent not to rent to anybody who was black and he says, when donald trump s father explained that his policy was not to rent to anybody who was black, what he actually used was the n-word to explain that policy while donald trump stood right next to him. obviously, given that donald trump is now running for president, that s a very inflammatory allegation. the producer goes back to the rental agent to clarify that this is exactly what he s talking about. do we mean you to say that donald trump, the man running for president, was there when that happened, when that language was used? he said put it in the drawer, forget about it. you know i do not rent to the n-word people. and that s what i did. and donald trump was right there? donald trump was right alongside his father when i was instructed to do that, yes. so this is obviously a very explosive allegation about donald trump and his time working with his father at the trump organization in the 1960s when he would have been a very young man, also in the 1970s. just to be 100%, 1,000% totally clear, the producer goes back to the rental agent, asked him again, are you sure that donald trump witnessed his father explain this was discriminatory policy, would not rent to black people but used the n-word to explain that. are you sure. when his father told you not to rent apartments to people of color, what was donald s response? and he shook his head, that s the way it s supposed to be. agreeing with his father. again, this is exclusive content. this has never been broadcast before. this is material obtained by nbc news just over the course of reporting this story within the last few weeks. what this rental agent says is a very specific, explosive allegation against donald trump personally, in terms of what he witnessed and went along with and signaled his ascent to as a young man working in his father s organization. now, the trump campaign has responded to that specific allegations tonight. they gave us this response on the record. quote, that is total nonsense. that s their formal response from the campaign to these allegations. but i want to show you also so you understand where that reporting came from, here is how nbc news is contextualizing this allegation. here s how they re folding it into their overall story about discrimination by the trump organization at the very start of donald trump s real estate career. it was 1963 in new york city and maxine brown was looking for a place to live in queens. she applied for an apartment owned by donald trump s father. they asked what kind of job i had and they were surprised to hear i was a nurse. but she wasn t welcome. i was turned because because of my color. stanley leibovitz was the agent that took maxine s application. fred trump came into my office with his son donald at his side. i asked him what should i do with the application of miss brown. he told me take the application and put it in the desk drawer as he does not rent to people of color utilizing the n-word and donald trump shook his head agreeing with his father. by 1967 state investigators found that out of some 3700 apartments in trump village only seven were occupied by african-american families. by 1973 donald trump was the president of trump management. and she was a teacher looking for a place to live. she went to a difficult trump building also in betweens. i was black. i don t think it looked good in their estimation to have black people living in their facility. she says there is no doubt in her mind that donald trump continued the practices of his father. dependent of justice alleged an employee was told to write applications from african-americans with the letter c for coloreds. he said there were no apartments, that was not true. she wouldn t have spoken up had donald trump not brushed off the company s bad behavior. it s important that history not be erased. donald started his career back in 1973 being sued by the justice department for racial discrimination. annette was part of that lawsuit. we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country, there s a federal lawsuit, were sued. we settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt. it was very easy to do. court records show it actually wasn t so easy to do. three years after the settlement, the department of justice went back to court saying trump was not complying with the settlement agreement. four years after that, the trump organization was again taken to court and the class action lawsuit alleging a pattern of discrimination. some 20 years after maxine brown was turned away. the trump organization and several other landlords settled the class action in 1984. sheila norris was one of the white testers sent in to a trump building the day after a black applicant was told no apartments were available. when i got there, oh, the superintendent greeted me with open arms. oh, yes, come, i ll show you the apartment. morse was offered a two-bedroom apartment. annette has kept her documentation from that complaint all those years ago although she says she hasn t looked at it in years. it feels like the time has come to tell the story. when donald trump says that, you know, they did not admit guilt, that may be true, but the fact that there was guilt had to come out. reporting by nbc news investigative reporter cynthia mcfadden. the trump campaign has made a formal response to nbc news on this story. hope hicks says, quote, there s absolutely no merit to the allegations. the suit was brought as a part of a nationwide inquiry against a number of companies and the matter was ultimately settled without any finding of and without any admission of wrongdoing whatsoever. it is not true this lawsuit was brought against a ton of companies nationwide. the first one in particular was specific to the trump organization, but they re sticking with that response anyway. now, in response to the very specific allegation by stanley leibovitz, that rental agent who worked with the trump organization at the time and who says explosively that donald trump stood alongside his father and nodded approvingly when his father used the n-word to describe who they do not rent to, the campaign tells us that that is, quote, nonsense. they re not offering a substantive rebuttal against the allegation. they re just giving us that response. nonsense. we re 14 days out. vice presidential candidate tim kaine is here tonight for the interview. my interview with tim kaine is next. mr. mysteriouso. the cryptic spy versus spy version of tim kaine. what did this mean? i don t think there s any doubt about is she going to be up on the substance. she is up on the substance. but the demean matters as well. have you spoken to her about the debate. we have chatted about it. i say chat generally because i m trying not to reveal all the means by which we communicate. but we ve done it a couple of times. she s are excited about it. i m trying not to reveal all the means by which we communicate? what does that mean? tonight he explains. and it turns out it s exactly as spy versus spy mr. mysteriouso as you might thing it is. joining us for the interview, i m very pleased to say, is the democratic nominee for vice president, virginia senator tim kaine. senator kaine, thank you so much for being here. we ve never met in person. i ve been on with you on remote, but glad to be on set. the last time you were with me on remote you were saying there was absolutely no chance that you would be chosen for vice president. i had been through it eight years before and never thought it would be me. i had the same intuition this time but not intuition is correct. i m thrilled to be on the ticket with hillary. you have been a missionary in honduras, a city rights attorney, a governor, a senator, have you ever had a female boss? that s a great question. when i was a practicing lawyer, i had cases where the main lawyer was a woman. but that s it. i served as two mayors on city council, they were both men. when i was lieutenant governor, my governor was a man. when i was dnc chair i essentially reported to the president. this would be the first time i had a female boss. i hadn t thought of it that way. i wonder if it gives you any if it gives you any means of reflecting on not just the historic nature of potential first woman president but some people s shpilkes about that, whether or not people are able to voice it as a criticism that it s an unusual thing. it is. but i love it. i m a civil rights lawyer. i love breaking barriers down and doing new things. our nation does it best when we re doing that. when hillary asked me to serve as her running mate, i just thought of all the strong women who helped me be the i ve won eight elections. i ve had women campaign managers and campaign secretaries and donors and volunteers and voters and i ve been able to be the one with my name on the bumper sticker and yard sign. when she asked me, i get to now play a supportive role. that s what the vice president s main job is to a woman who will make history, to the president who will preside over the celebration of the centennial of women getting the right to vote. the next president will preside over that. as much as you normalize by a woman president, a woman can be anything, my job will maybe that strong men should support strong women in whatever capacity. in terms of your relationship with hillary clinton, obviously you knew her before she asked you to be on the ticket. yeah. you made this cryptic comment where you said i won t comment on the exact means by which we communicate. i was thinking we re training some carrier pigeons so they can t be hacked. do you have to think about that, the ways that you communicate? we do. and we re spreading the zone, i m here, you re this, we cover more ground, but we do communicate a lot and by different means. we knew each other, but we don t know each other as really good friends. i didn t have that kind of relationship with her. in the last two weeks before i was named to the ticket, they thought maybe we should get to know each other. but it s been great. we re both midwesterners, we grew up in republican small business families. a church was a part of who we were. i get the milieu from which she came and it s similar to mine. you mentioned bill clinton and you mentioned strong men supporting strong women. have you given any thought, have you part of any planning in terms of what it s going to be like to have a former president in the white house barack obama is staying in d.c. when he s no longer president. bill clinton will presumably be in d.c. as the president s spouse if you and hillary clinton win. and then there s hillary clinton who will be the president. what sort of thinking or planning is going into dealing we re both superstitious. but we talk about this a little bit. we had a really good conversation about it saturday. but we re not assuming we re winning. there s a transition team thinking about some of these. actually if you look at it, hillary will make history, president clinton will make history as the first man, first spouse, but also as a president as first spouse. i ll make the least history of the four. but to be a vice president to a woman president and with bill clinton in the white house and my wife is my wife second lady if there s no first lady? so there s no complete playbook for this? but that s cool, too. there s traditions that you honor. but it s also something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. you have to make your own traditions. the ability to create the model a little bit is exciting. in terms of the division of labor and career interests in your own family, i know you described yourself as a feminist. absolutely. you talk about these things in feminist terms but your wife was secretary of education in virginia when you were named to the ticket she gave up that job. yeah. she s supporting you full-time. presumably if you re elected she ll move into whatever we ll call that job. how hard was that for you to navigate? do you have any regret about that? i do. if you had ann here, she d answer it differently. so i think my wife has given up a lot to support me. she was a juvenile court judge and really loving her job when i got elected governor. she could have continued in that role. she wasn t required to step down. but she decided there are things i can t do on the bench that i think i can do as first lady. she helped reform the virginia foster care system. i view that as a sacrifice her giving up that job. she said it was an opportunity for me to take my judicial experience and now do a big legal reform. i think she feels the same way. as secretary of education, she has been a real passionate advocate for the profession of teaching. and that has been a central focus of hers. the head of the department of education has to be responsive to teachers and a million other constituencies, but that s an umpire s job. but she can advocate for school boards, teachers, ptas, i can carry on the good work that jill biden and michelle obama has done around military families. so i felt sad for her when she said, i think i need to step down, but she said, i just want to make sure that hillary clinton s president, i don t want to be worried about if i have enough vacation days to go on the trail for her, i want to go campaign for her. senator tim kaine talking to me about what it s like to work for and with hillary clinton and what it means for him as a feminist and a politician to be in that role. strong men can support strong women. also clarifying that he and hillary clinton do communicate by secret means in order to keep their conversations safe from prying eyes and hostile hackers. i don t think he meant it in terms of carrier pigeons, but that is what he said. also saying when he was with secretary clinton this past saturday one of the things the two of them had a good conversation is what s going to happen with bill in the white house? what is going to happen with bill in the white house? more ahead with vice president contender tim kaine. stay with us. it s not theoretical. saying stop spending in the red states. do you feel it? i do. sterine® kills 9 of badreh germs for a 100% fresh mouth. meanyou feel bold ough to. .assist a magician. .or danc listerin. brg out the bold™ utah this year. it would be an astonishing statement to win it, right? but is it a good idea to spend resources to make that statement. if things are going well that you re also going to win utah, it s not going to be close. should they just spend what and where they need to to get to 270, then dump everything else they ve got into trying to win other races, in the senate, the congress, the states? it s not a theoretical question anymore as it turns out and not an easy one for the campaign to answer. and that is next with democratic vice presidential candidate tim kaine. the downfield presidential race. clinton may be in a good place but i don t think the party is in a good place yet. i asked senator tim kaine about that tonight. watch. let me ask you about some of the political decisions, the hard political decisions that you and the democrats are making right now. yeah. it s been as a spectator sport it has been fascinating to watch you go to utah. you ve got this op-ed in the deseret news right now. we ve got polls in texas, there s a small ad buy that you just did in texas. as a spectator it is fascinating to see you guys playing on that side of the ideological number line in our country. at the same time, though, it feels like there s a real opportunity cost right now in terms of money, these last two weeks, it would be hilarious if you won utah. wouldn t it be better to spend that money trying to elect a few more members of the the house from indiana or anywhere else in the country where you can build up your majority in congress? yeah, this is the four-dimensional chess that we re playing. it s all based on analytics. do you go for some extra electoral votes or take that money and try to build a bigger margin for a senator. my feeling, having been dnc chair, too, in a presidential year, almost the best thing, almost always to increase your success in congressional races is just to do really well in the presidential election. sometimes true, like 96, that wasn t necessarily true. republicans held on very well in congress even though when bill clinton beat bob dole badly. beat him badly. they re counterexamples. but usually the up tick in a presidential year, so it s worth doing as well as you can on the up ticket. north carolina is an interesting state where the up ticket is not only helping the down ticket but the down ticket is helping the up ticket because there s such a move among progressives in north carolina that the governor has painted the state against its traditions. we have to win that state and win the governor s race. in each state, we re assessing what can we do, can we win, and the tide goes to if we can win and get colleagues elected too congressman butterfield from north carolina. great friend, great congressman. a shrewd tactician. he s being outspoken about this, we know you have to balance things but you re making the wrong call. you re not doing enough for down ticket democrats at the expense of trying to run up the score needlessly in the electoral college. start spending them on the regional tickets. was in north carolina last thursday did a good rally together. and he made that point to me. we re looking at where opportunities are. my example would be the state of georgia. georgia is a state with a significant minority population. polls are close. if we can get over in georgia, this would create something positive long-term that would be great for the black caucus, great for democratic future because that s one of the ten largest states and there s only two in the ten largest that go the other way, texas and georgia. if we can get that back, that would be great. we re not forsaking north carolina. i ve been there so often and president obama and michelle obama and hillary and president clinton were all there a lot. when he makes the case, you have to listen because he s very good at this. so all of this, we re factoring in, so i haven t, i wrote an oped for the desert news, but i haven t been to utah yet. did a campaign event in air and a couple in texas, but i m real yeah in a few others. you guys feel like you re effectively straddling it. you make choices on the fly. we want a congress that we can work with to get some things done. tim kaine tonight on the hard choices democrats are making now. they re basically trying to max out the presidential win in as many states as possible while also doing the max for democratic congressional races senate races and all the others. the cacophony around the way they make those decisions is going to get louder and louder over the next 13 days. just watch. more ahead, stay with us. two are elected in november. does there have to be some sort of overture, some sort of welcoming place in the administration for republicans? i would hope so. i would hope so, or in policy. look. more than just a token cabinet officer? i would hope so, and look, i think there s going to have to be a grand gesture on the behalf of the gop to say gop does not equal trump. gop does not equal trump. and if we govern, of course, we have to govern for everybody. so there has to be an effort to reach out the. and hillary are kind of talking about that, again, not presumptuously. we have to win first, but what does that look like? one thing that will help us a little bit, give us a little bit of a head start as i think we re going to get a lot of republican votes. john warner, who is the iconic political figure in virginia gave a full-throated endorsement of hillary. he didn t even mention donald trump s name until the last sentence. he talked about what a great senator hillary clinton was, because he was on the committee with her. and i think we re going to have a lot of people on the coalition that got her elected. but that begins a little bit of the outreach. you have the burden to govern, you have the burden to govern for everybody. no donald trump on the cabinet, though. i think that s highly unlikely. thank you for the time. i know you re busy of the. i m happy we could do this. vice presidential candidate tim kaine. mike pence will be sitting down with brian williams. we ve got more from senator kaine on the issue of the supreme court and isis. we ve got laugh-out-loud news for you from ohio. in spite all the good news for democrats in the polls right now, there are some not-so-good signs. like ohio, there was initial enthusiasm. but now it s down. democrats traditionally need to run up the score. compared to last year, early voting in cleveland s cuyahoga county is down by more than half. hillary clinton cannot afford that kind of turn that kind of turnout in that state if she is going to winnow owe. but the democrats have a plan. they have announce add free get out to vote concert by jay z in cleveland next week. free concert. you can pick up your tickets on friday between the hours of 8:00 and 6:00, at this location, directly across the street from the cuyahoga county office of elections. i don t know how ohio is going to pan out in the end, but that
trump is already scrambling the map this year. in utah where the mormon electorate is especially unfavorable to trump his lead is down to 5.5. prompting the campaign to dispatch mike pence to salt lake city less than two weeks before the election to do damage control. he s there tomorrow. mitt romney himself a mormon won utah by 48% in 2012. given trump s polling deficit his lack of ads it came as a surprise that according to the washington post trump has stopped holding high-dollar fund-raisers and relying on online donations which tend to be much smaller. that s after campaign financial reports show more money spent than raised in the month of september. reports add to growing speculation that donald trump is not in very deep psychological sense running to be president of the united states so much as he s running to build up a fan base for donald trump. with the advent of trump tower and then i could advertise a project that i m doing. like doral or something. and spend half a million dollars on it or a million dollars. or i can do the show and spend nothing and be on for a lot longer. on the very day those tapes went public, that s exactly where trump was, doral. his resort and golf club outside miami. the event was ostensibly a campaign photo op with a group of employees, many who are hispanic and support the republican nominee. it sounded like this. 800 acres in the middle of miami. if you look at the ballroom, that was brand-new that didn t exist. it s one of the great places on earth. we had a construction crew here of 1600 people. we rebuilt the whole place in 14 months. we did it under budget although i did increase the scope of the work because we decided to use the finest marbles. while trump was hanging out at his golf course with the finest marbles, hillary clinton was holding an event at broward alternative, which it is a business proposition, a poor business proposition and he s handling it terribly because he s incompetent at doing the one thing he says he s good at. that s a possibility. i think he s far too smart for that and at 70 years old as a billionaire mogul. we ll have to see the tax returns. that s not on his agenda right now. i don t think anyone can doubt this. even if you have the most malicious and nefarious view of donald trump you can t doubt that he s poured his body and soul into this campaign. everyone who runs for president does that. no, no. it s incredibly special. if you were to compare his schedule to hillary clinton s you would see a frenetic campaigner on one side, a man who could be my father all the time, yeah. i could never keep up his schedule versus hillary clinton who campaigns every few days. but you realize this is like one of trump s sons said this is a huge step down for him to run for president. he s not doing it donald trump isn t doing anyone any favors for running to be the most powerful person on the planet, right? i disagree by saying a step down the presidency is never a step down. good, i m glad we agree on that. i think he misspoke there, chris. having said that, i truly believe this, i did, and i came to the trump train late. i m a convert to the trump train. i haven t been drinking trump kool-aid since the very beginning but i ve become a true believer. i really believe this. this man, do you think that at this stage of his life, of his fortune, his career, he needs any of this? no, he doesn t. he is doing this because he sees that our country is gravely ill. we are economically and nationally sick i understand that that s the theory of the case for trump supporters and it s what donald trump says and it s possible that that is actually the case. the other theory of the case and it s not just one that people opposed to him politically believe, but people that share the republican party s beliefs but don t like donald trump is he s fundamentally a narcissist who has become addicted to the attention, is sort of compulsively driven by attention and this has given him an outlet for that attention and crucially doesn t actually care about the party that he is nominally representing in two weeks. that s an important point. chris, to your point, and i will concede this to you, there are some people whom i respect who hold those views. i would counter that by saying that generally they are part of a washington establishment that exists for its own self-aggrandizement yes, i get that. we are the outsiders and the establishment can t stand what we represent. and by the way, i m glad they can t because we re not coming there around the edges. i can say i get that argument. there s some truth to that. you re talking about this wired part of the establishment. but the random mormon voters that wanted nothing to do with the guy are now part of the establishment have come to the same conclusion. thank you. congratulations the campaign just bought a bunch of copies of that book. that s money in your pocket. well, no, it isn t. i ve given away so far $85,000. is that true? $85,000 in royalties so far this year and i ll continue to give it away to anti- pro-immigration causes. trying to make sense of he s going to this hotel. he s at doral today. we ve got the tape saying he s going to his hotel tomorrow. there s a sense in which it could be the case that the incentives of running for president and getting maximum attention for yourself sometimes align and at some point they stop aligning and you just keep going with the incentives for maximum attention for yourself. that s the only incentive he has. so what you said poor steve cortez, what a horrible, horrible job to have to defend this man. and you can see how impossible it is at this point. let me just note on steve s behalf and steve believes in what he s saying and i don t doubt for a moment all the people you see on donald trump have not been drafted into it. everyone has entered into it of their own i don t mean he s doing it against his will. it s a crappy job. no, so i think the point you were making about his need for attention, listen, he has kept upping the ante in terms of getting attention. the new york times peace about michael d antonio s interviews really brought that up again, this desperate feeling that if i m not getting attention, that i barely exist. he s like he s rowing the boat across a river and the promised land is on the other side but there s a hole in the boat and he s bailing, bailing, bailing, and he s bailing so much that he can t actually row the boat. so the promised land is never going to be reached. it s funny you said that because the way this gets understood in the campaign context oh, they re not doing the blocking and tackling, the organizational operational things they need to do in this election, why is he going to his hotel. that s called lack of discipline. if you were just lazy, you would offload that to someone else and let them do the work for you. his incentives are not aligned with the republican party. they are part of the time but not all the time. i also wonder if at this point, given his noted inability to deal with shame, humiliation and loss and what seem like epically deep psychic wounds that he carries around, he just wants to go and be in a place that he feels like he created and right. go back to home. go back to somewhere, something that he maybe can feel good about. yeah, he did end today s doral event by just muttering rosebud over and over again. no, i think the fascinating several different pieces of the trump psyche revealed by what happened today and one of them is this decision not to hold more fund-raisers. what s that about? that s very simple. he s already in revenge mode. desperate. he wants to get the republican party. and if it means blowing up the republican party, the democracy, whatever it takes, donald trump is going to try to get back some semblance of self-worth. and to me, the biggest lesson i ve learned up till now with two weeks to go before the election and the thing i have to take myself back to kind of parse is just how powerful a personality can be when it is as not worried about norms or shame as a normal person. like that s been the big lesson. like, wow, you can really go pretty far and you can get away with a lot. at the risk of violating goodwin s law, this is the big lie, that s why it s so powerful. that most people will not accept the fact that you are who was it that said that eventually donald trump will go on television and insist he never ran for president? his ability to be so shameless, i think that it s impossible for most people to parse. they assume that there must be something to his grandiose self-presentation because who could be a con man on that big of a scale? well yeah, go ahead. my question to you is the other thing you have to remember about this guy is he s not been a politician. running for electoral office is deeply humbling, not in the way like i m deeply humbled. you go and shake hands and beg people for your vote and you lose races. he s not gone through that. so huh reacts this last two weeks is a totally open question. i think it s pretty clear how he ll react. he ll keep doing those things that make him feel like it s somebody else s fault that this has happened and he ll keep doing those things that serve his self-interests. the clash of civilizations that really this represents is between self-interest and a greater interest. it s between me and we. thank god it looks like we is going to win because if it doesn t win, the planet isn t going to survive. and if trump i really believe that. i believe that we re at a turning point here. and there are concentric circles of we, the we of the planet, the we of a whole bunch of stuff. thank you both. the early returns from early voting. president obama s battleground states director on what early votes tell us about where this race stands two weeks out and why the odds democrats take back the senate are getting better after a quick minute break. on the roaoaagn [ front assi sounds [ musi on the roaoaagn [ girl lghs ] ike a band of gypsies weo down the highway [ beetle horn honk standardeature you gete foless than you expeed hurry and lease for just $199 pa month. would you lp me make art? each one of or journe keeps us youn hey, i have an id! we ll never get old. artygoe amazing! amazing! announcer: give your cardboard box another fe. woman: how do we protect them from $4 billion in new cuts to california schools? man: vote yes on proposition 55. woman: prop 55 doesn t raise taxes on anyone. man: not on working californians, not small businesses. no one. woman: instead, prop 55 simply maintains the current tax rate on the wealthiest californians. man: so those who can most afford it continue paying their fair share. woman: .to prevent new education cuts. man: .and keep improving california s schools. woman: vote yes on prop 55 to help our children thrive. as donald trump s fortunes continue to slide, he s increasingly dragging the fortunes of senior republicans with him. the cook report saying that senate democrats are poised to pick up five to seven seats which would give them the majority. races in the toss-up column never split down the milled. one party tends to win the lion s share of that. there s not enough time for republicans to recover toss-up seats in the states where hillary clinton is leading. early voting is under way and trump won t be any help especially since his campaign doesn t have a ground game to speak of. between the dnc and state party operations campaign finance reports show democrats employ 5,138 staffers across 15 battleground states. trump s campaign, the republican national committee employ just 1400 staffers in 16 states. how well does that work for those who turn out for election day. early voting data offers some potential insight. according to the washington post, the end of saturday, staffers s s celebrated 39,148 people had vetted compared to 33,187 in 2012. no wonder katy perry held a rally for clinton in clark county on saturday literally gave a ride to some attendees to some of the early voting spots afterwards. in a one-two punch, president obama was in the same county the next day. if there s a single person on earth who knows this data inside and out, it s mitch stewart. currently a partner at 270 strategists. i want to start with this before we get to the early voting data. it s important for folks to understand when you were sitting at your perch in the 2012 campaign and folks were running the operation in clinton s campaign, you re not looking at the real clear politics or 548, you have internal data. what is that made of and what does it say and tell you that we on the inside don t know? you have a voter file that has all kinds of different data information on these specific individuals. their vote history, likely candidate preference. all kinds of things that you can look at. what you get then from the county auditor or from the secretary of state are individual level returns. so you know exactly who voted early, and many times you know how they voted early, either in person or by mail. then you can imagine that back to your existing database or voter file. and you know enough about those people you sort of profiled the them whether it s through their age, their education level, their ethnicity to be pretty confident who they re actually voting for based on the models you have. no, exactly right. you look at two separate data points. the first is what we call a preference candidate model. every voter will have a score from 100-1. out of 100 mitch stewarts, barack obama would get 1 vote. ten people would vote for barack obama. 90 for mitt romney. you look at that and then you also look at your turnout score. how likely are you to vote if somebody were not to remind you? you have a score of 100-1 on every single voter in that state. what you want to do with early vote, in most states, you want your supporters who have a middling turnout score, folks you aren t superconfident they will vote on election day unless you remind them. you want them to vote early. if somebody lass a high turnout score, irrespective if you remind them or not. you have the two scores. how likely am i to support the candidate that mitch stewart is supporting which would be barack obama you want people you are sure will vote for your candidate but in the middle of the propensity to turn out bau you can work on them in this sort of sustained fashion for this period and make sure they get in their own time and choosing. that s exactly right. not only do you measure your success from a field operation, you also measure your opponent s success and who are they getting to turn out early? are these getting out election day voters and just doing it early or are they reaching into the people who would be less likely to participate so they re growing their pie? so you look at both. you can do something like in 2012, say in a state like nevada, your campaign basically knew who won nevada before election day. you will have 80% of nevadans vote early. we had about a 12-point lead with 80% of the electorate in. the republicans would be literally like a 70-30 win on election day to make up for that early vote deficit. iowa is another example. just 40% voted early and we had about a ten-point lead. on election day republicans had almost an insurmountable gap to fill. you felt very, very comfortable with a couple of those states or you knew that this could be really, really close like florida. so it does provide you some assurance of what s going to happen on election day. but more importantly from a campaign perspective, it allows you to allocate resources more efficiently. so we stopped spending a ton of money in nevada once we realized that 80% of the electorate voted. we wind down the budget there and focus on a state like virginia where 90% of the state will vote on election day because there s very little vote happening there. we ll check in on elizabeth warren who is speaking moments ago. take a listen. she gets up every day no, i hope you heard donald trump in the debate when he said that he was smart not to pay any taxes. that s right. he is smart and all of you who pay taxes are dumb. everyone who pays taxes. to keep our roads and bridges working is dumb. everyone who pays taxes to support our world class military is dumb. everyone who pays taxes to support medical research and scientific research is dumb. dumb because donald trump doesn t plan to pay. he just plans to use all those things you paid for. what kind of man does that? a selfish little sleazeball. a man who will never be president of the united states. you bet. now, donald trump s been out there. he hasn t been hiding who he is. he s been out there from the very beginning. he s been out there and where has your senator, richard burr, been all this time? i wanted to look this up, make sure i got this right before i came here. richard burr said make no mistake, i am fully supportive of donald trump. no dancing around that one. so donald trump called latinos rapists and murderers and burr fully sports trump. trump called african-americans thugs and donald trump and burr fully supports donald trump. trump attacked a gold star family and burr fully supports donald trump. trump praised vladimir putin and compared himself to dictators. and burr fully supports donald trump. trump calls women fat pigs and bimbos and brags about sexually assaulting women. and richard burr is like a puppy on a leash sticking right there with donald trump. you know, if richard burr is just going to be donald trump s lapdog, then let him go off and do that, but the people of north carolina need a strong, independent voice to fight for the families of north carolina. and that is deborah ross. that was elizabeth warren speaking in north carolina just a few moments ago in support of deborah ross who is the democratic senate candidate challenging richard burr in a tightly contested race, yolking him to trump. as you just saw. spent many years as a nuclear missile launch officer. if the president gave the order, we had to launch the missile th. i prayed tt callwould ver come. self control m be all at keeps these misses frofiring. i wbr id= wbr16813 /> ulbomb the s[ be ]ut of ebe all i want to unpredictable. i lovear. the thoughonald trump with nuclear weapons scares me to death. it should scare everyone. i hillary clinton and i approve this msa. donald trump has spent his entire presidential wbr id= wbr17118 /> xap both obsessed with media coverage and harshly critical of the press. his rhetoric has grown ever harsher in recent weeks as his poll numbers collapsed. these people are among the most dishonest people in the world, the media. /b> they are the worst. they re trying to fix the election for crooked hillary. the media is entitled, condescending and even contemptuous of people who don t share certain elitist views. reporters are ritualistic booed when they re escorted into the trump rallies where they stand in pens and heckled while they cover them. this video shows the view from the press area. reporters describe did vitriol they face at trump rallies as increasingly hostile with people flipping middle fingers at them. a trump rally in cleveland buzzfeed reporter rosie gray reported that two men outside the press pen were quoted picking up after one of the men said the word lugenpresser. lugenpresser. you said it right. that s right. the word that man there was so excited to learn, lugenpresser means lying press in german. and it s the term the nazis used to demonize and the media and stir anti-jew hatred. while trump has traveled further into the fact-free swamp and a cocoon where he doesn t like anything that he says is false. it must be cured if the party is to be saved. we ll break down her diagnosis next. 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if they re going to lay it at the feet of donald trump and say, you know, if we d only had a candidate with maybe the same package or policies but a little more empathic gloss, a little less boorish, less bigoted, hadn t been caught on tape saying he harassed women. that s wrong. the problem is not donald trump, the problem is that a large share of their base believes completely bonkers bigoted things. they ve been fed this again and again over year business the right wing what do you mean by bonkers bigoted things. birtherism, data trutherism. is that like large significant parts of fox viewers and conservatives and republicans that think that all the economic data is being juiced. the polls are skewed. even the fox news polls are skewed these days according to the republican base. beyond that, you know, that the weather numbers that we get are wrong. you know, that matt drudge had recently said that nobody should evacuate their homes when a hurricane was coming. right, a liberal media conspiracy. it was a conspiracy. the numbers were made up, the projections were made up to gin up fear about global warming. the idea is that there s this sort of context tu wal environment in which trump has flourished and the environment is more important than trump because the environment is the environment that s so self-contained and untethered from connections to external reality that you can have a candidate like this yes, basically the alt-right for years has created an alternate reality that has ultimately led to trump. you mean the right. the alt-right. i think i would say that there s a self-identified white nationalists of the alt-right. it s larger than that. i don t mean to paint all conservative leaning journalists with the same brush, those that are pedalling crazy conspiracy theories saying that obamaas not born in the united states, there sort of thing. that s part of the issue because there s tons of conservative journalists and writers and folks at fox. there are places that people have integrity. they re opinionated with an ideological ax to grind but who doesn t have one. phil klein has been reporting on obamacare, conservative, doesn t like obamacare, is embedded in the facts of what obamacare is, there s subject matter, knowledge, there s expertise, all these things. that s a very small group of these folks with a very small and my concern is that republican leadership has been playing along for years with these conspiracy theorizers. they re controlled by them. they re terrified of them. look what happened to eric cantor in his primary race to david bratt when basically right wing radio decided to take him on. so i think there are two issues going on here, why they haven t been willing to take on the crazies essentially. one is that they desperately need the imprimatur of these places because they re influential, handy is influential, drudge, whoever else, if they tick them off, they ll potentially lose those voters. to some extent the conspiracy theories have served their interests, in the short term. the popular mandate of the first black president, maybe that was useful to their cause in the near term, but in the long run it stoked a lot of racial resentment. the same thing with clinton voter fraud. it has been extremely useful. but in the pretext by which they passed actual pieces of legislation that made it harder for actual populations that actually vote for democrats in large numbers to vote. yes, and in the long run it set the stage for a presidential candidate to explain to his many voters that the election will be sto stolen from them. today a large share of republicans in particular believe that that election will be stolen. i think that it s absolutely the case and you re seeing it in its sort of death throes now. karl rove in 2012 saying it s not over. but then they just went back to the script. the big question for the right is do they go back to the script or is there some kind of reckoning and catherine rampell, thanks for joining me. proud of y, son. ! a manufacturer. well that s why i dug this out for you. it s your grdpappy s hammer and would have wanted y to have it. it meant aot to him. yes, ge makespowerful . bui lle writing the code yes, ge makespowerful . that will allow those machines to shai be changi the y the worlworks. 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obamacare, i must be honest with you, because it s so bad for the people and they can t afford it. i m at trump international doral in miami and we don t even use obamacare. we don t want it. joining me now political reporter for the new york times and msnbc contributor. the perfect moment to me for two reasons, one it displays donald trump s general level of sort of policy expertise. and number two, most americans still now in 2016 don t know what obamacare is, couldn t tell you what it is, or who it affects. it s become this kind of culture war issue or symbolic thing. can you put a creche in the public square? you know, and if you called it trumpcare, it would probably poll better or call it like powellcare, it s the social with president obama that drove down the approvals. obviously for some people the premiums are going up, it will be a hardship, but much more than the exchanges. the gaurns on coverage and parents plans. you re saying the bill itself, the law itself. you can stay on till you re 26 there s a whole lot of laws about pushing the cost down and innovation in medicare and medicaid delivery and health systems and integrated care and there s no lifetime maximums, yada, yada, but a tiny percentage of voters are in there. but if we re dealing with a candidate who had any grasp of public policy or the idea of how to talk to voters 13 days before an election, we might see someone who could frame could make that argument. very clearly. this is a horrible day for sort of obamacare and ergo hillary clinton. trump can t help but make everything either, a, about himself or he doesn t much knew, know about obama, the language of this man is deplorable. he didn t seize the opportunity to break it down to the public. everyone is there asking him questions about it. he could have walked them through it briefly. to me it remains so we were talking about there s 3% of the people who are roughly insured should get their insurance through the exchanges. 80% of them are subsidized, more or less, we re talking about 1% of people that get the full heft of this subsidy increase. there are 7 million people who are not on the exchanges but are buying plans, individual plans or small plans so they ll also see the premium hikes. this is the a small percentage of voters. this law as controversial as the day it passed is actually a thing out there in the world which i have to say continues to astound me. because i don t think that was the expectation. i think president obama was not great about selling it in the early years. that s one problem. they tried to rectify that. i do think that the reason the focus is on the exchanges is that the exchanges are the broken part. and the interests that want to kill obamacare would not want to focus on the parts that are very, very popular, such as you can t be denied coverage for a prior condition and if the conditions were such that you could focus on the popular part, it would probably be a different conversation. kind of weird that none of the democrats or the gop has managed to really steer that conversation in the presidential election. but here s what i want to ask you as a political scientist, i sort of feel in the long run that the sort of lines of politics and policy should converge, right? if there s something that there s a lot of scare tactics and it will destroy america and turn us into this socialist monster and the thing happens and it s not that but maybe has some broken parts but opinion would converge on it but instead a health reporter called it like roe v. wade, there s no convergence on the sense it s just as polarizing. people have their fixed views about these things despite the fact that it s an operating thing that you can empirically assess. that goes back to nick s point when obama did something that fdr couldn t do, something lbj couldn t do and william jefferson clinton couldn t do and he passed obamacare and put his name on it. he took the negative. they put his name on it. exactly. but he never framed this. we saw it with the stimulus package and the affordable care act. there s still so much confusion and misinformation from the very beginning we re still sort of seeing how this has played out eight years after the fact. there s fascinating science that shows people s perceptions of what it is and what it constitutes and who it helps are crazy skewed. people perceive the stimulus bill and obamacare to be aimed at black people that it s not true which accounts for the hatred and resistance to it. who benefits from it. he s done very few racially targeted policies. you know, he is under the for better or worse, but you know all what is it, all tides lift all boats? yes, so there s going to be certain segments of the population that are disaffected good or bad but this is not a racially targeted policy by any stretch of the imagination. but that doesn t mean the perception of it perception becomes reality. democrats thought this would be a real boon to them. bill clinton said pass it, people will love it. that will be a political boon. that s not been the case. it s not the kryptonite that republicans believe. republicans keep thinking obamacare is so terrible. you want to reject this. look at the demographics. not getting republicans rich. there are certain republicans who are destitute and they realize a small segment realize that this is actually what s been keeping them afloat. that s true. so many people are one injury away from yeah. but also like with people on the exchanges, the people
benefiting the most are not high frequency voters. that s huge. their benefit is needed, i think. thanks for joining us tonight. that s all in for this evening. make sure to stick around because it s veep night on msnbc. rachel maddow has an exclusive interview with tim kaine and mike pence will join brian williams. that is true. almost a little weird, but thank you for the preview. it is, in fact, vice president day here on msnbc. vice president or would be vice president day. chris matthews this afternoon had an interview with our current vice president of the united states, joe biden. joe biden is now into a third day of explaining what he meant when he said he wishes he was in high school and he could take donald trump out behind the gym because he wants to get in a fight with him, basically. donald trump today responded that he, too, would kind of like to go get in a fight with joe in terms of clinton/kaine, they ve already outraised trump 2-1, the new york times projection as to who is likely to win puts hillary clinton at a 93% chance of winning the presidential election. you might think just in terms of the fund-raising pace, they could afford to ease up a little bit, right? and they might have done that if the fund-raiser were just for them but they re not just running clinton for president and kaine for vice president. they don t want to just win the white house. they want democrats to win governorships and control of congress or to get as close as they can. they obviously want democrats to get control of the senate. for the clinton/kaine campaign, it is pedal to the metal from now till the end. 41 fund-raisers from now until november 3rd. he had five today alone. he squeezed me in between them. that s on the democratic side. on the republican side, it s nothing like that at all. mateo gold at the washington post reports tonight that the comparable fund-raiser effort on the republican side is already over. in fact, it ended last wednesday. the washington post reports tonight that donald trump did his last big dollar joint fund-raiser for his campaign in the republican national committee last wednesday and he s not going to do any more. there are no further events planned. quote, we have kind of wound down. from here on out, quote, there is virtually nothing planned. it s hard for me to overstate how strange that is two weeks ahead of the election. the repubcan nominee is on track to lose the presidential election largely because of the magnitude of his expected loss, republicans are also on track to been passing around sign up tallies. but they don t bother to collect the sheets. they leave them there, nobody picks them up, let alone do anything with them. next door in nevada which is to be a swing state although it s turning increasingly blue. watch this. this is a remarkable exchange between the great chris jansing from nbc and the republican party chairman in the second largest county in nevada. right? clark county includes las vegas, that s the most populated county in the state of nevada. washoe county has reno. this guy is the county chairman from that part of nevada. again, nevada s supposed to be a swing state? his county is supposed to be a swing county. swing counties and swing states are supposed to be, you know, desperately fought over at this point. but watch this from the republican chairman of that county. this is just incredible. the tension i m talking about interviews with the campaign, yard signs, bumper stickers hats. yard signs and bumper stickers. correct. you called the trump campaign. 606-[ bleep ]. and you say can you have yard signs? you say i am the chairman of a swing county in a swing state. you guys need to talk to me. i need 2,000 yard signs, i need 10,000 bumper stickers, and i don t even get a call back. that s a swing county in a swing state. republican party chairman there saying two weeks out from the election he had the phone number memorized. we bleeped it there so you don t all call it. but he s got the phone number memorized. he calls the trump campaign every day begging for yard signs and bumper stickers and didn t even get a callback. what are they doing that s more important than trying to compete in swing counties in swing states with county chairman that need specific help? what s the trump campaign coulding if they re not doing that? what is the trump campaign, is it just a traveling road show for donald trump to appear at events in front of crows that like him because that makes him feel good. whatever the trump campaign is now and whatever they re planning on doing for the last two weeks, it is unusual. the washington post again reported tonight that trump campaign has effectively cut off the republican party and stopped even trying to help other down-ballot republicans save themselves. and politico.com was the first to report tonight that the republican party in response is hitting the panic button. the panic button is apparently labeled dark money and they punched it big time tonight. according to politico.com this evening mitch mcconnell s senate super pac in conjunction with karl rove remember him mitch mcconnell and karl rove have somehow instantly conjured out of the dark money wilderness a whopping pile of $25 million million which they just announced tonight they ll start shoveling into six contested senate races. they re announcing that tonight. the fastest they can start spending that money is tomorrow. that means they ve got $25 million to spend on senate races over 13 days. if they also spend on election day itself. that is a phenomenal last-minute money dump. and who knows where that money came from? incredibly while they ve decided to do that through the mitch mcconnell super pac, the nominee decided he ll coast to the finish. no more republican party fund-raisers, helping nobody, where can i go to find somebody to tell me that they love me. he does remain on the top of the ticket. he continues to be the republican party s problem and he continues to be the presidential nominee of a major political party. as such he continues to be subject to scrutiny, subject to the kind of full body mri, the kind of full body background check that the national media does on everybody who runs for president. and we have something new to report tonight. the ongoing reporting on donald trump s background tonight has turned up something new and something dramatic and something very, very, very inflammatory that we have got here exclusively next. go paperless, n t stress, girl sdriver acct-free everybody put your aps in t aor me go papees don t stress, i got the discounts at you need safe driver accident-free erybody p your flaps in the air for me i can t lisynch in these conditions. savings oh, yeah teachers, nurses and firefightes support prop 51. prop 51 will upgrade libraries, science labs, and classroom technology and relieve school overcrowding creating more opportunity . . . and better learning for students help students succeed vote yes on 51. federal justice against their real estate firm. that lawsuit by the department of justice claims that the trump management company systematically refused to rent to black people. african-american new yorkers would apply for an advertised vacancy in a trump building and then they would just never hear anything back from their application or be told that the vacancy was listed in error and actually that unit wasn t really available. one crucial part of the investigation in that case was an equally qualified white new yorkers would show up at the trump company and they would inquire about those same apartments, magically, the suit alleged the apartment would be back on the market and available for the white applicant even though the black applicant had just been told that that apartment was gone. that doj lawsuit against the trump company was ultimately settled when the trump company signed on the a consent decree where they would desegregate their properties, start renting to black people. that s one of the allegations against the trump corporation for racial discrimination, over the course of this presidential campaign it has become a hot point of contention. hillary clinton raised it in first presidential debate. trump said that the consent agreement reflected no admission of wrongdoing, then after he used that as a rebuttal, newspapers and news outlets have looked into those allegations to the way that suit was settled to the other suits that were brought against trump real estate properties. today alone the las vegas sun published an account from a woman who now lives in nevada who says she was one of the white people who was sent in as a tester at trump properties after a black applicant would allegedly be told that an apartment was not available, she d show up as a white applicant with basically the same qualifications and she d be offered the apartment. that story today in the las vegas sun. the woman recounting her own experience in being involved in the lawsuits. mother jones had another story tonight on additional discrimination lawsuits brought against the trump organization not in the 1970s, but in the 1980s. i can now tell you that nbc news has been working on a report on the way the trump company allegedly discriminated against black people in rental housing. in the course of the investigation they ve turned up what we have exclusively tonight, a troubling eyewitness account from a man who worked as a rental agent at a trump property. he says it was basically his job to do the discriminating. he says he was instructed directly to slow walk or outright reject potential tenants if they were black because they were black. but listen to this. listen to what he told nbc news when he was asked exactly how that instruction came to him and who was in the room while it happened. just take me back into that room. so you were sitting in the room and he was there. describe the scene to me. a black lady completed an application for an apartment in the building, a one-bedroom apartment, as i recall. and it was a very professionally application, it was checked and verified, there were no liens, no judgments against her. and she was calling me on a daily basis wanting to know the status of her application. one day mr. trump and his son donald came into the office, and i asked fred trump what i should do with this application because she s calling me constantly. and his response to me was you know i don t rent to the n-word. put the application in the deck and forget about it. so fred trump used the n-word and told you we don t rent to people like that. that is correct, yes. what was your response? i was employed by them. i did what he said. so this is the raw tape of an nbc producer in that diner right, noisy diner, interviewing this rental agent who worked at a trump property and in the course of explaining basically how he says racial discrimination worked at the trump organization back in the day when they were deciding who to rent to, he just mentions that young donald trump was standing there alongside his father when he says, the father instructed this rental agent not to rent to anybody who was black and he says, when donald trump s father explained that his policy was not to rent to anybody who was black, what he actually used was the n-word to explain that policy while donald trump stood right next to him. obviously, given that donald trump is now running for president, that s a very inflammatory allegation. the producer goes back to the rental agent to clarify that this is exactly what he s talking about. do we mean you to say that donald trump, the man running for president, was there when that happened, when that language was used? he said put it in the drawer, forget about it. you know i do not rent to the n-word people. and that s what i did. and donald trump was right there? donald trump was right alongside his father when i wans instructed to do that, yes. so this is obviously a very explosive allegation about donald trump and his time working with his father at the trump organization in the 1960s when he would have been a very young man, also in the 1970s. just to be 100%, 1,000% totally clear, the producer goes back to the rental agent, asked him again, are you sure that donald trump witnessed his father explain this was discriminatory policy, would not rent to black people but used the n-word to explain that. are you sure. when his father told you not to rent apartments to people of color, what was donald s response? and he shook his head, that s the way it s supposed to be. agreeing with his father. again, this is exclusive content. this has never been broadcast before. this is material obtained by nbc news just over the course of reporting this story within the last few weeks. what this rental agent says is a very specific, explosive allegation against donald trump personally, in terms of what he witnessed and went along with and signaled his ascent to as a young man working in his father s organization. now, the trump campaign has responded to that specific allegations tonight. they gave us this response on the record. quote, that is total nonsense. that s their formal response from the campaign to these allegations. but i want to show you also so you understand where that reporting came from, here is how nbc news is contextualizing this allegation. here s how they re folding it into their overall story about discrimination by the trump organization at the very start of donald trump s real estate career. it was 1963 in new york city and maxine broup wwn was lookinr a place to live in queens. she applied for an apartment owned by donald trump s father. they asked what kind of job i had and they were surprised to hear i was a nurse. but she wasn t welcome. i was turned because because of my color. stanley leibovitz was the agent that took maxine s application. fred trump came into my office with his son donald at his side. i asked him what should i do with the application of miss brown. he told me take the application and put it in the desk drawer as he does not rent to people of color utilizing the n-word and donald trump shook his head agreeing with his father. by 1967 state investigators found that out of some 3700 apartments in trump village only seven were occupied by african-american families. by 1973 donald trump was the president of trump management. and she was a teacher looking for a place to live. she went to a difficult trump building also in betweens. i was black. i don t think it looked good in their estimation to have black people living in their facility. she says there is no doubt in her mind that donald trump continued the practices of his father. dependent of justice alleged an employee was told to write applications from african-americans with the letter c for coloreds. he said there were no apartments, that was not true. she wouldn t have spoken up had donald trump not brushed off the company s bad behavior. it s important that history not be erased. donald started his career back in 1973 being sued by the justice department for racial discrimination. annette was part of that lawsuit. we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country, there s a federal lawsuit, were sued. we settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt. it was very easy to do. court records show it actually wasn t so easy to do. three years after the settlement, the department of justice went back to court saying trump was not complying with the settlement agreement. four years after that, the trump organization was again taken to court and the class action lawsuit alleging a pattern of discrimination. some 20 years after maxine brown was turned away. the trump organization and several other landlords settled the class action in 1984. sheila norris was one of the white testers sent in to a trump building the day after a black applicant was told no apartments were available. when i got there, oh, the superintendent greeted me with open arms. oh, yes, come, i ll show you the apartment. morse was offered a two-bedroom apartment. annette has kept her documentation from that complaint all those years ago although she says she hasn t looked at it in years. it feels like the time has come to tell the story. when donald trump says that, you know, they did not admit guilt, that may be true, but the fact that there was guilt had to come out. reporting by nbc news investigative reporter cynthia mcfadden. the trump campaign has made a formal response to nbc news on this story. hope hicks says, quote, there s absolutely no merit to the allegations. the suit was brought as a part of a nationwide inquiry against a number of companies and the matter was ultimately settled without any finding of and without any admission of wrongdoing whatsoever. it is not true this lawsuit was brought against a ton of companies nationwide. the first one in particular was specific to the trump organization, but they re sticking with that response anyway. now, in response to the very specific allegation by stanley leibovitz, that rental agent who worked with the trump organization at the time and who says explosively that donald trump stood alongside his father and nodded approvingly when his father used the n-word to describe who they do not rent to, the campaign tells us that that is, quote, nonsense. they re not offering a substantive rebuttal against the allegation. they re just giving us that response. nonsense. we re 14 days out. vice presidential candidate tim kaine is here tonight for the interview. when i sat down with tim kaine today i think i asked him a question he s never been asked before. you have been a missionary in honduras. you have been a civil rights attorney. you have been a city counselor, a mayor, lieutenant governor, a senator, have you ever had a female boss? that s a great question. my interview with tim kaine is next. 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[boing] [laughte man: you may kiss the bride. applause] woman: ahh. ndistincnvion] aouncer: full life measurein seats starts with ght early on. car crashes are a leading killer of childen 1 to 13. learn how tprevent deaths and injuries bysing the rig car seat for ur child s age and size. last week democratic vice presidential candidate tim kaine was chatting with reporters. they were talking about the upcoming debate, which was last wednesday. and he was saying how well he thought hillary clinton was going to do in that debate, kind of normal stuff, what you would expect. then he unexpectedly turned into mr. mysteriouso. the cryptic spy versus spy version of tim kaine. what did this mean? i don t think there s any doubt about is she going to be up on the substance. she is up on the substance. but the demean matters as well. have you spoken to her about the debate. we have chatted about it. i say chat generally because i m trying not to reveal all the means by which we communicate. but we ve done it a couple of times. she s are excited about it. i m trying not to reveal all the means by which we communicate? what does that mean? tonight he explains. and it turns out it s exactly as spy versus spy mr. mysteriouso as you might thing it is. joining us for the interview, i m very pleased to say, is the democratic nominee for vice president, virginia senator tim kaine. senator kaine, thank you so much for being here. we ve never met in person. i ve been on with you on remote, but glad to be on set. the last time you were with me on remote you were saying there was absolutely no chance that you would be chosen for vice president. i had been through it eight years before and never thought it would be me. i had the same intuition this time but not intuition is correct. i m thrilled to be on the ticket with hillary. you have been a missionary in honduras, a city rights attorney, a governor, a senator, have you ever had a female boss? that s a great question. when i was a practicing lawyer, i had cases where the main lawyer was a woman. but that s it. i served as two mayors on city council, they were both men. when i was lieutenant governor, my governor was a man. when i was dnc chair i essentially reported to the president. this would be the first time i had a female boss. i hadn t thought of it that way. i wonder if it gives you any if it gives you any means of reflecting on not just the historic nature of potential first woman president but some people s shpilkus about that, whether or not people are able to voice it as a criticism that it s an unusual thing. it is. but i love it. i m a civil rights lawyer. i love breaking barriers down and doing new things. our nation does it best when we re doing that. when hillary asked me to serve as her running mate, i just thought of all the strong women who helped me be the i ve won eight elections. i ve had women campaign managers and campaign secretaries and donors and volunteers and voters and i ve been able to be the one with my name on the bumper sticker and yard sign. when she asked me, i get to now play a supportive role. that s what the vice president s main job is to a woman who will make history, to the president who will preside over the celebration of the centennial of women getting the right to vote. the next president will preside over that. as much as you normalize by a woman president, a woman can be anything, my job will maybe that strong men should support strong women in whatever capacity. in terms of your relationship with hillary clinton, obviously you knew her before she asked you to be on the ticket. yeah. you made this cryptic comment where you said i won t comment on the exact means by which we communicate. i was thinking we re training some carrier pigeons so they can t be hacked. do you have to think about that, the ways that you communicate? we do. and we re spreading the zone, i m here, you re this, we cover more ground, but we do communicate a lot and by different means. we knew each other, but we don t know each other as really good friends. i didn t have that kind of relationship with her. in the last two weeks before i was named to the ticket, they thought maybe we should get to know each other. but it s been great. we re both midwesterners, we grew up in republican small business families. a church was a part of who we were. i get the milieu from which she came and it s similar to mine. you mentioned bill clinton and you mentioned strong men supporting strong women. have you given any thought, have you part of any planning in terms of what it s going to be like to have a former president in the white house barack obama is staying in d.c. when he s no longer president. bill clinton will presumably be in d.c. as the president s spouse if you and hillary clinton win. and then there s hillary clinton who will be the president. what sort of thinking or planning is going into dealing we re both superstitious. but we talk about this a little bit. we had a really good conversation about it saturday. but we re not ray suming we re winning. there s a transition team thinking about some of these. actually if you look at it, hillary will make history, president clinton will make history as the first man, first spouse, but also as a president as first spouse. i ll make the least history of the four. but to be a vice president to a woman president and with bill clinton in the white house and my wife is my wife second lady if there s no first lady? so there s no complete playbook for this? but that s cool, too. there s traditions that you honor. but it s also something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. you have to make your own traditions. the ability to create the model a little bit is exciting. in terms of the division of labor and career interests in your own family, i know you described yourself as a feminist. absolutely. you talk about these things in feminist terms but your wife was secretary of education in virginia when you were named to the ticket she gave up that job. yeah. she s supporting you full-time. presumably if you re elected she ll move into whatever we ll call that job. how hard was that for you to navigate? do you have any regret about that? i do. if you had ann here, she d answer it differently. so i think my wife has given up a lot to support me. she was a juvenile court judge and really loving her job when i got elected governor. she could have continued in that role. she wasn t required to step down. but she decided there are things i can t do on the bench that i think i can do as first lady. she helped reform the virginia foster care system. i view that as a sacrifice her giving up that job. she said it was an opportunity for me to take my judicial experience and now do a big leel reform. i think she feels the same way. as secretary of education, she has been a real passionate advocate for the profession of teaching. and that has been a central focus of hers. the head of the department of education has to be responsive to teachers and a million other constituenci constituencies, but that s an umpire s job. but she can advocate for school boards, teachers, ptas, i can carry on the good work that jill biden and michelle obama has done around military families. so i felt sad for her when she said, i think i need to step down, but she said, i just want to make sure that hillary clinton s president, i don t want to be worried about if i have enough vacation days to go on the trail for her, i want to go campaign for her. senator tim kaine talking to me about what it s like to work for and with hillary clinton and what it means for him as a feminist and a politician to be in that role. strong men can support strong women. also clarifying that he and hillary clinton do communicate by secret means in order to keep their conversations safe from prying eyes and hostile hackers. i don t think he meant it in terms of carrier pigeons, but that is what he said. also saying when he was with secretary clinton this past saturday one of the things the two of them had a good conversation is what s going to happen with bill in the white house? what is going to happen with bill in the white house? more ahead with vice president contender tim kaine. stay with us. it s not theoretical. saying stop spending in the red states. do you feel it? i do. hey look, it s those g bu whoa, cute! shawn: ut-up. jess: are you good to d? shaw i m fine [pice siren] [music] ss: how ny did you have? shn: i should be fine jess: you should be? officer: sir, go ahead and step out of the vehicle f me. shawn: ye sir. bud: see ya, budd today, swn s got a heing, we e sow it goes. good luc they re the sa thi it costs a. soot wor i today the washington post officially declared that it considers the state of utah to now be a toss-up in the presidential election this year. which is hilarious. democrats have lost the state of utah by over 40-point margins in three of the last four elections. the best republican showing there in sorry, the best democratic showing there in 20 years was still democrats losing by over 20 points in utah. i mean, if utah is now a toss-up, if a democrat might win utah this year, then the one thing i can tell you is that the democrat will not need to win utah this year. it would be an astonishing statement to win it, right? but is it a good idea to spend resources to make that statement. if things are going well that you re also going to win going . should they just spend what and where they need to to get to 270, then dump everything else they ve got into trying to win other races, in the senate, the congress, the states? it s not a theoretical question anymore as it turns out and not an easy one for the campaign to answer. and that is next with democratic vice presidential candidate tim kaine. using 60,000 points my cha ink card i bought all theramewo. wire. and plants need to give mshop.. a face.. can door your bune. see n i mne unluc. the chance of being involved in a robry is 1 i757. thchances of being strucby lightning. 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[ding] won pplea fasasn your sebet for uneected rlence. announcer: thchanc of being a victim in an aicrash, 1 in 29 million. could t some pnuts? s and plane crashes. anif you are textingwhile d, now, i may b, but ion t have tbe partf that statistic, d neithedo y y. drive resibl a little discord in blueville. earlier this week the new york times reported that some members of the congressional black caucus want the clinton/kaine campaign to stop trying to win the presidential race in deep red states because even though those states might be winnable in terms of trump versus clinton, down-ballot races are not as important as the downfield presidential race. clinton may be in a good place but i don t think the party is in a good place yet. i asked senator tim kaine about that tonight. watch. let me ask you about some of the political decisions, the hard political decisions that you and the democrats are making right now. yeah. it s been as a spectator sport it has been fascinating to watch you go to utah. you ve got this op-ed in the deser et news right now. we ve got polls in texas, there s a small ad buy that you just did in texas. as a spectator it is fascinating to see you guys playing on that side of the ideological number line in our country. at the same time, though, it feels like there s a real opportunity cost right now in terms of money, these last two weeks, it would be hilarious if you won utah. wouldn t it be better to spend that money trying to elect a few more members of the the house from indiana or anywhere else in the country where you can build up your majority in congress? yeah, this is the four-dimensional chess that we re playing. it s all based on analytics. do you go for some extra electoral votes or take that money and try to build a bigger margin for a senator. my feeling, having been dnc chair, too, in a presidential year, almost the best thing, almost always to increase your success in congressional races is just to do really well in the presidential election. sometimes true, like 96, that wasn t necessarily true. republicans held on very well in congress even though when bill clinton beat bob dole badly. beat him badly. they re counterexamples. but usually the up tick in a presidential year, so it s worth doing as well as you can on the up ticket. north carolina is an interesting state where the up ticket is not only helping the down ticket but the down ticket is helping the up ticket because there s such a move among progressives in north carolina that the governor has painted the state against its traditions. we have to win that state and win the governor s race. in each state, we re assessing what can we do, can we win, and the tide goes to if we can win and get colleagues elected too congressman butterfield from north carolina. great friend, great congressman. a shrewd tactician. he s being outspoken about this, we know you have to balance things but you re making the wrong call. you re not doing enough for dow ticket. does that critique coming right now, it s not theoretical. he s saying stop spending in the red states, start spending down ticket. do you hear him? we do. we had a really good rally at north carolina central. he made that point to me, and i assured him, look, you know, we re looking where opportunities are. an example is a state of georgia. georgia s a state, significant minority population. polls are close. if we could get over in georgia, this would create something really positive long term that would be great for the entire party, great for the black caucus, great for democratic future, because it s one of the ten largest states. we could get that back in. it would be great. and we are not foresaking north carolina. i have been there so often, and president obama and michelle obama and hillary and preside clinton were all there a lot. but when he makes the case you got to listen, because he is very, very good at this. so all of this, we re factoring in, so i haven t, i wrote an oped for the desert news, but i haven t been to utah yet. did a campaign event in air and a couple in texas, but i m real yeah in a few others. you guys feel like you re effectively strat lly straddlin. you make choices on the fly. we want a congress that we can work with to get some things done. tim kaine tonight on the hard choices democrats are making now. they re basically trying to max out the presidential win in as many states as possible while also doing the max for democratic congressional races and nat ra senate races and all the others. the cacophony around the way they make those decisions is going to get louder and louder over the next 13 days. just watch. more ahead, stay with us. made history when it sold for record price of just under $30 million. and now, another mercedes-benz makes histy lling at just over $30,000. and to think this onactual has a surround-snd stereo. the 2016 cla alease the cla250 for $29a has month at your localeo. mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-ben the best or nothing. teachers, firefighters and nurss support prop 51. prop 51 repairs older schools and removes dangerous lead paint and pipes ensuring classrooms are safe for all students. for safe schools vote yes on 51. my name is jamir dixon and i m a locafor pg&e.rk fieldman most people in the community recognize the blue trucks as pg&e. my truck is something new. it s an 811 truck. when you call 811, i come out to your house and i mark out our gas lines and our electric lines to make sure that you don t hit them when you re digging. 811 is a free service. i m passionate about it because every time i go on the street i think about my own kids. they re the reason that i want to protect our community and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then i ll drive it every day of the week. together, we re building a better california. teachers, nurses and firefightes support prop 51. prop 51 will upgrade libraries, science labs, and classroom technology and relieve school overcrowding creating more opportunity . . . and better learning for students help students succeed vote yes on 51. every election feels like the most divisive election ever, now, it s a slippery slope to the bottom. we re telling the truth. it is. this is the most divisive one. there are a lot of kbod people in this country who are dyed in the wool, true-blue republicans. yeah. whether or not they re going to vote for donald trump. i don t know what s going to happen to the republican party after this experience with trump as their nominee, but does there need to be a grand gesture from you and president clinton if you two are elected in november. does there have to be some sort of overture, some sort of welcoming place in the administration for republicans? i would hope so. i would hope so, or in policy. look. more than just a token cabinet officer? i would hope so, and look, i think there s going to have to be a grand gesture on the behalf of the gop to say gop does not equal trump. gop does not equal trump. and if we govern, of course, we have to govern for everybody. so there has to be an effort to reach out the. and hillary are kind of talking about that, again, not presumptuously. we have to win first, but what does that look like? one thing that will help us a little bit, give us a little bit of a head start as i think we re going to get a lot of republican votes. john warner, who is the iconic political figure in virginia gave a full-throated endorsement of hillary. he didn t even mention donald trump s name until the last sentence. he talked about what a great senator hillary clinton was, because he was on the committee with her. and i think we re going to have a lot of people on the coalition that got her elected. but that begins a little bit of the outreach. vut burden to govern, you have the burden to govern for everybody. no donald trump on the cabinet, though. i think that s highly unlikely. thank you for the time. i know you re busy of the. i m happy we could do this. vice presidential candidate tim kaine. mike peps wince will be sitting with brian williams. we ve got more from senator k n kaine on the issue of the supreme court and isis. we ve got laugh-out-loud news for you from ohio. anu exain to y c super food ? 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