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i thought it was noteworthy that the president made reference to people who felt like these actions he was taking were too strict. he said, be patient. he can't do nothing at this point. the senior administration officials indicated they recognize there's a problem right now. the number of illegal border crossings has gone down since december. they are above 4,000 encounters a day. and there's a concern that with the summer months, we'll see those numbers go higher. that's something historically that has happened. the administration is trying to get in front of that. to give the agencies that were at the border the authority, the ability, to try to get more control over the situation before the summer months can lead to a more out-of-control situation, chris. >> for a lot of democrats, there's a disconnect, jen. we heard from the president just now, phrases like move past republican obstruction.
say will do the right work in the moment that demands it. that's exactly what he's done here. and you're right. and so is everybody else. more needs to be done. and i'll keep fighting that fight with congress and i'll keep working with this administration doing everything in our power until people come to their senses in congress and pass comprehensive immigration reform. >> new mexico's governor michelle lujan grisham who was just in the east room of the white house. thank you so much. we appreciate you taking time to talk to us. >> thank you, chris. >> coming up how former president trump's guilty verdict has fueled a massive fund-raising frenzy. what's the message in it for team biden? you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. jansing reports" only on msnbc relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment
when this case does go to trial in the meantime? >> it can. judge mcafee, the trial judge below will handle motions. he's proven to be a good and thoughtful and somewhat efficient trial judge. the trial judge might tell him to hold off on that. it can go forward. i imagine prosecutors are still preparing for the case. they're not going to stop. but they do have to also prepare for this appellate argument in october, chris. >> the panel of judges doesn't collect new evidence. they are arriving at the conclusions when he decided to keep d.a. willis on the case. what will the arguments look and sound like? what are they looking for? >> you're right. appellate courts don't hear new evidence. they make legal determinations based on the record below them.
house. joining us, governor michelle grisham. >> thank you, chris. >> when you head back to new mexico, how is your work connected to the border different? what is your best hope? and what is the realistic expectation? >> my realistic expectation is that we motivate congress to do work here. it will take more than this order. but traffic is way up at ports of entry. risk is up at ports of entry. 180 miles of open border. few people are coming across. too many still. this means we curb that and resources where i need them most. new mexico needs this concentration, so we're getting the bad actors. we are protecting folks with asylum. and we get congress to do the rest of the work.
challenge to this order? >> you're right, chris. the white house knew this would be something that would be challenged. the department of justice is ready for it, to face any challenges that may come up in court. the aclu saying we intend to sue. a ban on asylum is illegal, just as it was when trump unsuccessfully tried it. senior administration official earlier today asked about the potential for lawsuits and did say that the department of justice routinely has to defend actions taken by this administration, in court. and that it was prepared to do so in this case, as well. of course, we know, chris, that president biden signed this executive action earlier today. we expect to hear from him in just a few minutes about how exactly he envisions this new rule being -- being executed at the southern border, at the border with mexico. we understand that this order effectively blocks migrants who would cross the border illegally, from seeking asylum.
justice delayed is justice denied. once again, donald trump's legal team has turned that sentiment on its head, winning another big delay. this time, in his election interference trial in georgia. his appeal to allow fani willis to continue prosecuting the case, has been scheduled for october 4th, to be heard by judges apointed by republican governors. it's certain that the trial will not start before the election. a major victory for donald trump. joining me now, fbi official, and contributor, chuck rosenberg. we should say this appeals court is one of the busiest of its kind in the country. is this now certain? you don't see a path towards having a trial before the election in november? >> i do not, chris. i think you're exactly right. it seems not just near certain by certain, that no trial will take place before the election. >> can work continue towards
not be intimidated. we will continue to do our jobs, free from political influence and we will not back down from defending democracy. >> the republicans line to be intense. the head of this committee has been clear about his desire to get the justice department to turn over audio of president biden's interview with special counsel robert hurr. they have the transcript. they're exhibiting executive privilege over that. it could have a chilling effect they say of future cooperation with prosecutors in investigations such as these. the committee will continue pressing for that audio. democrats for their part during this hearing, chris, allowed garland to explain himself and gave him opportunities to clarify, effectively helping him play defense, as some of them
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>> no. >> laura: extremely frustrated about inflation, home buying? >> the biggest number is joe biden's job approval rating. i just checked it in the real clear politics average of polls, it's 40.3%. and in the polling era, no president running for re-election, has come from 40% in june of the election year to win in november. it just doesn't happen. he has got so far to go. and you have to remember, the 40% is you have been talking about how low his ratings are for handling immigration or for handling the economy, the 40% includes things that he does well on, like healthcare or abortion. i mean, he is way, way under water. >> laura: all trump needs to do in debate is not take the bait. and don't respond in a way that the suburban mothers wouldn't like. just what's your record? >> about the suburban women that chris was talking about, it is still a really close election. >> laura: nationally. >> the national numbers are
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