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listen, there's a lot of intensity inside the courtroom, and now it seems like there's plenty of intensity outside the courtroom. >> reporter: there is.e there is. i just want to kind of give you an update, i know that we're following what's happening inside theth courtroom. i do want to give you an update out here, seeing chris, because i do think it's important. as you mentioned, as i talked about earlier, we have no idea if what just took place in front of me has any connection to what happened inside that courtroom over the last couple of days anv the ongoing hush money trial with the former president of the united states. but i wanthe to reiterate to fos what i just saw, which is an individual setting himself on fire just about 50 feet away from me. as we learned thatt a full jur had been impanelled in the hush money case involving a former president of the united states. he is currently moving, as security professionals and now new york fire department and nypd have allyo showed up in foe to put the fire out. the fire has now subsequently

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been extinguished. he is moving hisxt limbs, his as and his legs, but i'm not sure how ibu can describe to you jus how large, chris, this fire was. it was startling to see out of the corner of my eye as i was speaking to you on camera reading through the jury that had been impanelled and the individuals as i was describing to you their vocation out of the corner of my eye, seeing this fire completely light up the center square. therehe is an area just to my right, which is an area that they have cordoned off for protesters. that is an area that had been filled with protesters, for instance, back in april when the former president was originally arraigned. on monday, when this trial got up and going, this area was also full of protesters as well on both sides, by the way, both after anti-trump and pro-trump protesters. since monday, there have been fewer and fewer people, and quite honestly, in the last day or so, there have been maybe

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again, we don't know exactly what the motivation is here, and we're not going to speculate on that, but we do want to get back to the very big news inside. and let me get your impressions now that there is a panel. we have the 12 jurors. we have the six alternates, lisa. what stood out to you from the time you spent in the courthouse today? >> i would say, chris, this is a day i would characterize is about pressure and feelings and anxiety. if that's been building all week, we really saw that come to a head today. we saw least four jurors essentially say today that they could notto serve because their anxiety or their nervousness. one of them was someone who said that her father had a relationship with someone who previously, aso high profile person who had a relationship with former president trump and whenor questioned by the defens that person just felt the pressure was too much forst the.

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the crowd around this area. this individual was standing in the middle of this square on his own. as i mentioned, there may have been two other individuals that were walking about within that area about 20 to 25 feet away from him. so the moment it happened, audibly i heard screams from the right of me as i was on air with you talking about the jury, in which folks were saying he has set himself on fire, a man is on fire. at that point, chris, i saw the security personnel that we've been seeing out here all week long racing towards the entry area of this square, and to be clear, again, this area is cordoned off for protesters, right?ed so if you are here to protest, you can be in that area. to get i to where we are, you he to have an official press pass as well, so security is incredibly tight in all of these different sections that they had set up because of the former president being in the courtroom behind t me. so there was really no issue when it came to security. it was more controlling the

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no real problems around the courthouse, right? >> reporter: no, and i'll tell you, so if we think back to the arraignment in april of 2023 when former president donald trump was first arraigned, this area was filled with protesters. if you remember marjorie taylor greene came to this area as well. she was kind of swarmed by press along with protesters showing her supportth for the former president of the united states. that was probably the biggest crowd that p i had seen in this area since this whole thing began. day one there were a significant or a more so significant amount of protesters in this area. i would say maybe 50 protesters are so. since then, we have seen a depletion of protesters in the area in which this individual eventually set himself on fire just about five or so minutes ago. maybe on tuesday there were possibly 10 to 15 individuals. in the last few days since we've been here, chris, today maybe one, two, or three stragglers with flags in support and/or

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bench. he's, you know, talking to the lawyers, but he doesn't have the sort ofes easy access to a cler that he might have. and we don't know if he has his phone up d there. he's very focused. in fact, laser focused on the business of the court while he'r on the bench. we don't know what time he found out.im we had no inkling that he knew. >> while he doesn't have a law clerk adjacent to him, and apparently anywhere else in the courtroom, there is a courtroom deputy whose voice we occasionally hear as she calls out the names of prospective jurors or administers the other. she does have administrative help in the courtroom as well as a number of new york court security officers. in fact, chris, earlier today, one of the prospective jurors said that he had three friends who are court officers and the judge said where. he was clearly referring to the new york city court system, and he said,rk one of them, you kno is in the room right now, proving what a small world manhattan can be. but again, that levity that we felt earlier in the day,

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sandoval hearing scheduled this afternoon. what impact will it have on the potential to start to get the meat of the trial underway on monday. we are expecting to hear from juan merchan at 3:15, whether he'll keep that, we don't know. that's the schedule right now, right? >> reporter: it is the schedule, chris, and i was speaking to folks, whether or not we thought the judge could delay the sandoval hearing. the hearing is expected to take an hour or so. if they're able to wrap that up, they would then be excused for the weekend and they would start proceedings monday morning, possibly opening arguments. i would say that the instinct that we have right now considering how the judge has run things so far this week, even with what has taken place today outside the courtroom and how horribly tragic it is, our instincts are telling us the judge will likely go forward with the sandoval hearing, even with all of this happening

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with an individual. his name is dave. who witnessed this thing closer than me. i'm about 50 feet from the man who set himself on fire. this individual was inside collect pond park. he had come here from the upper west side, which is about 5 miles north of where we are in lower manhattan, just to kind of see what was going on when it came to the trump trial. and he wanted to check out what was happening with the media, and instead, he encountered this individual, and he said this man threw some papers up. and i had described earlier, chris, when i was on the air with you, there was papers surrounding this individual. he threw papers up in the air, multicolored papers and then he had doused himself in gasoline, and he lit a lighter and then subsequently set himself on fire. you mentioned, chris, as you were coming to me that for many individuals who witnessed this, me being one of them, you couldn't quite understand what was happening in front of you, and i would echo that same

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sentiment. when i saw it happening, as i was talking about the impanelled jury for donald trump, i thought to myself in my head, i think there's a fire in the middle of the park. and then i thought, no, that is an individual. that is a human being was on fire. we haven't learned much about this individual and/or the status of him. we know he was taken away by emt. i mentioned he had thrown some papers up in the air. we had gotten a glimpse of some of those papers. it seems to have some vast conspiracy theories written on these papers. that is all we know. whether or not that leads to the motive as to why this individual would have done something so horrific like this to himself, i think, is to be known. and to be learned hopefully more from this press conference that's happening in just a couple of minutes or. so none the less, this man dave that i speak to, really, chris, understandably shaken by what he witnessed just a few feet away

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democratic political world for r bringing about the russia allegations was his allegation. whether or not we get to that sandoval hearing as the sirens are blaring behind me is unclear to anybody right now. that would have been the plan. and let me further that for you, chris, if the sandoval hearing had taken place, presumably on monday morning at 9:30 sharp, the jurors would have been seated and we would have proceeded to opening statements from both sidesto with the expectation ofhe completing the both before 2:00et p.m. when on monday, we will adjourn without a lunch break to accommodate the lawyers here who observed the passover holiday. that's what would have happened. that still may happen. but again, all bets are off in the wake of this tragic event today. >> catherine christian, as you mentioned earlier, you spent 30 years in that y area. you were with the manhattan district attorney's office,

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