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follow me here. scientists were surprised. some of the technology they had and equipment they had there actually got damaged because of the power of this energy they finally produced. my question to you is, now they can do it. how do you scale it? do we have the infrastructure and support systems for it to actually make this feasible to use? >> the devil is in the details. there are so many tiny details they had to get and trips they had to do to make this happen. you're shooting all these lasers into this capsule. you expect the energy of the lasers to go into the capsule, right? what they found when they started doing experiments is sometimes the energy from one laser got diverted and went back up the other laser. so, you know, there's all these little things you have to do. what you're looking at here is primarily a way of making heat. so most energy reactors that we have that produce heat like coal burning, wood burning -- i don't know if we have any of those --
about the supreme court. we've been talking a lot about abortion. but the u.s. supreme court delivered a devastating blow to the fight against climate change this week. on thursday, right before the court closed session for the season, the high court ruled that the environmental protection agency does not have the authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions for existing power plants. the court also said, in a 6 to 3, ruling that the epa doesn't have the authority to shift the nation's energy production away from coal burning plants to other cleaner sources like solar and wind. now, in today's politics, it seems like denying climate change is for the republicans of this ruling's case in point. but the epa was created by a republican administration. back in 1970, the nixon white house created the epa to curb national pollution and look
get a live look of the united states capitol on this first day of july. after overturning roe versus wade last friday, the supreme court ended its term yesterday with a pair of split decisions for the biden administration. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams has more on the rulings affecting immigration and climate change. >> reporter: in one of the most important environmental rulings in decades, the court said the epa does not have broad authority to limit greenhouse gas emissions by shifting energy production away from coal burning plants and toward cleaner sources like wind and solar. 6-3 vote, the court said a major action would require explicit support from congress. justice roberts said it is not plausible congress gave the epa authority to adopt on its own a regulatory scheme. >> it's cut off the agency's ability to do the farthest reaching, most impactful thing, to cut carbon emissions from the
cases are decided. but the court also undercut the administration's climate change efforts, saying the epa overreached in its efforts to move the country from coal production to cleaner alternatives justice correspondent pete williams has details. >> reporter: in one of the most important environmental rulings in decades, the court says the epa does not have broad authority to limit greenhouse gas emissions by shifting energy production away from coal burning plants and toward cleaner sources like wind and solar. by a 6-3 vote, the court said such a major action would require explicit permission from congress writing for the majority, chief justice john roberts said, it is not plausible that congress gave epa the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme. >> it has really cut off the agency's ability to do the farthest reaching, most impactful thing to cut carbon emissions from the power sector that's the sector of the economy that produces about a quarter of our greenhouse gas emissions. >> reporter: for the dissenters, justice kagan says this makes
that plan. the penalties to be brought that don't meet the obligations. there's still a lot of carrot and that can help. >> we know that fossil fuel companies love carrots. i feel like the messages from the democrats is so inadequate. manchin for example got rid of the clean electricity performance program and there's a study showing it to prevent premature deaths. why have we not heard about the innocent american lives lost to climate inaction? >> many in the state of west virginia that he represents. >> well said. >> coal burning. reliance on fossil fuels. pollution that takes a large toll. so it's inconscionable but
got rid of the stick if you will. there is a carrot and a stick in that plan. they got rid of the stick. so the penalties that could be brought against utilities who don't measure up. who don't meet their obligations. there's still a lot of carrot. that can help. >> michael, we know that fossil fuel companies love carrots. carrots are always enough for fossil fuel companies. i feel like the messaging from the democrats on some of these climate change measures has been so inadequate, not urgent enough. manchin for example as i mentioned got rid of the clean electricity performance program and yet the "new york times" earlier this month cited a study showing it would have prevented 50,000 premature deaths from pollution by 2030, more than 300,000 by 2050. why have we not heard more about the innocent, american lives that are being lost to climate inaction? >> yeah. mehdi, many of those in the state of west virginia he represents of course coal burning is one of the major health consequences, negative health consequences our reliance
because of the pandemic. at this critical moment in global climate change diplomacy. >> i would guess we don't really have a difference of opinion on that legislation. by comments had more to do with counting to 50 and being able to count to 218 in the house and figuring out what to do not to be left empty handed. you had a senator from a coal burning state who had seen a lot of jobs getting away and the u.s. cutting emissions by a third. i wonder what the art of possible is. tell me what do you think, what is the compromise and middle ground, a state that seen thousands and thousands of coal jobs go away over the past decade. how does a representative from
wildly unrealistic. it assumes a fivefold increase on coal burning of total coal reserves. and start using the worst-case scenario and then the uninhabitable earth and that it is not as bad as it was looking. and then called on it to be less alarmist but the media complicit. and then to stoke that sense of an pending doom. and then acclimate of crisis. >> high temperatures could create more devastating wildfires. >> the pacific northwest