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>> okay. >> but nothing's done until it's done. >> you got the laundry list in. great. okay. so let's talk about something i think was a big priority for the president, which is community college. a big priority. what did he say about that in the oval office today, and did he say that it won't make it to the final cut? >> well, i think it's going to be really tough, and this is something that even though it wasn't one of our top five, we pushed very hard for it. we also believe that this is important. you know, i've got the bill, the free college bill, which is both four-year and two-year, and the president said today that he supports that, and he wants to try and get that done. but in this bill, because of all the limitations on cost, that is, you know, something that is probably going to be very difficult to get across the finish line. we haven't completely given up, but i think that's a tough one. >> i had all these questions written down, but you answered them in your first answer about what was a priority and what did you want and timing and all of that. but let me ask you this.
the oval office today and did he say that it won't make it to the final cut? >> well, i think it is going to be really tough. this is something that even though it wasn't one of our top five we pushed very hard for it. we also believe that this is important. you know, i've got the bill, the free college bill, which is both four-year and two-year, and the president said today that he supports that and he wants to try to get that done. but in this bill because of all of the limitations on cost, that is, you know, something that is probably going to be very difficult to get across the finish line. we haven't completely given up, but i think that's a tough one. >> i had all of these questions written down but you answered them in your first answer about what was a priority and what did you want and timing and all of that. let me ask you this. even with the reduced cost, right, you are not getting as much money as you wanted, how are you planning to fund all of this? because we know senator sinema is against raising corporate taxes so how do you get it paid for? >> yeah, we didn't spend quite
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sent e-mail a couple weeks ago and said it could add more than -- not sure what that is, could add 4 trillion to the debt. they are saying this is paid for, it is not because cfrb says could add to debt and real cost 5 to 5.5 trillion dollars. what do you think? >> mark: john, why are you spreading misinformation, it is free, zero, didn't you hear the president the other day? why are you telling people lies? >> john: somebody said the logic of that, if you pay for a meal, you can say it was free because it was paid for. >> mark: yeah, i paid my son's college bill, i paid for it, earned the money, college is free, paid for. this is absurd. also, the tax increases they want to do are $2 trillion, if you take them at their word that is 3.5 trillion,
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to make these guys accountable. have you ever seen a more opaque bill than the college bill? it's three lines. tuition, room and board, other fees, $62,000. if you got a bill like that at a restaurant, if you went to a restaurant and had $150 and it just said food, $150, you'd send the bill back to the waiter and say tell me what i'm charged. instead college costs, we write it. they should have to detail what they're spending their money no and they should unbundle it. the reason these costs go up, there's no market test on college tuition. if i said to my daughter, sara, who i just dropped off at notre dame, if i said at $62,000 i don't think notre dame is a value anymore so we are going to send you some where else. after the crying and slamming her door shut, we're sending her back to notre dame if we could possibly afford it. families are having huge debt and the kids are overwhelmed by it and parents are overwhelmed
why you've seen inflation in higher education just eclipse anything, even health carries minor the amount of inflation compared to higher ed. clearly it is economics 101. that if you give people the money to pay almost any price, the people who are charging it will charge more. gregg: what's astonishing, tuition actually has very little to do with real actual costs and the reason i know this is, i read your study at the cato institute. i want to put it up on the screen here. here is college tuition, undergraduate, residential, includes room and board. the average cost to educate is roughly $8,000 per year but you found that the average college bill is roughly $37,000 for private schools, 16,000 for public. neil, colleges can raise tuition with impunity, because they know they're going to get paid no matter what, right? >> yeah, ultimately that's what