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been killed in a blast in beirut. you actually interviewed him back in 2021. can you give us a sense on who he was and what he told you? saleh al—arouri is the deputy head of the political bureau in hamas but he is not just a political leader, he has very good connections with the military wing. he is a founding member of the military wing of hamas in the west bank. hamas controls gaza of course but he was a very effective member of hamas in the west bank that is under the control of the palestinian authority. i met him back in cairo in 2021 when he was attending a series of meetings held between the palestinian factions. i remember one of the most important lines he told me at the time is that hamas and the palestinian people are entitled to various forms of resistance. itold him, "even armed resistance?" he said, yes, even if the west does not approve of that or does not like that, it doesn't matter because if we look back at all resistance movements across the globe, they have held arms

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at some point. i remember he was also very firm and very cautious with his words and very calm. that line really says a lot about the way he thinks. certainly somebody who had influence, notjust politically but also militarily. absolutely. he is known for being very well—connected with hezbollah and it is in the hezbollah stronghold in beirut this man was killed. he was seen as a good connection or a person who can forge good links between hamas and gaza and hezbollah in beirut. he was very influential. when it comes to the military wing in hamas. he is kind of an exceptional figure because he enjoys influence and control on both the military and political fronts.

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in the west bank. hamas controls gaza of course but he was a very effective member of hamas in the west bank that is under the control of the palestinian authority. i met him back in cairo in 2021 when he was attending a series of meetings held between the palestinian factions. i remember one of the most important lines he told me at the time is that hamas and the palestinian people are entitled to various forms of resistance. itold him, "even armed resistance?" he said, yes, even if the west does not approve he said, yes, even if the west does not approve of that or does not like that, it doesn�*t matter because if we look back at all resistance movements across the globe, they have held arms at some point. i remember he was also very firm and very cautious with his words and very calm. that line really says a lot about the way he thinks. certainly somebody who had influence, notjust politically but also militarily.

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were afraid of. that israel, in order to compensate for its failure in gaza, is trying to expand the war. reaction has been swift, raising concerns of a wider regional conflict. the iran—backed militant group hezbollah says the attack in beirut will not go unanswered. iran says al—arouri's death will ignite resistance against israel. the palestinian prime minister has also condemned the killing, warning of �risks and consequences� that could follow. meanwhile, the united nations has described the strike as extremely worrying. so who was the deputy hamas leader, saleh al—arouri? i spoke with our arabic bilingual correspondent for egypt and the middle east sally nabil — who interviewed al—arouri a few years ago. thank you so much for being here. hamas saying its deputy head saleh al—arouri has been killed in a blast in beirut. i must make saying it's deputy had saleh al—arouri has

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CNN This Morning

launchers, explosives and the like. they're saying their main focus of this operation that as of an hour ago was still on going is the infrastructure of these militant cells saying they want to remove jenin as a safe haven for militants. they carried out at least ten different air strikes and we know the size of brigade, that means several hundred soldiers were taking place in this operation and for the first time since the early 2000s we saw tanks on the outskirts of jenin. now at least eight palestinians we know who have been confirmed killed. at least two dozen others have been injured. one israeli soldier was injured as well. and we should note as of the last hour, this is still on going. clashes are still currently on going and they carried out another air strike outside of that mosque. so what we need to keep an eye on right now is how long this operation will go on and whether other parts of the west bank and potentially even gaza will get involved. we know that hamas, the militant group that controls gaza called on all of their cells now to

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weapons. i think this competition between hamas and pij, palestinian you islamic jihad is going to continue. clearly, hamas controls gaza. the paradox is why couldn't hormuz bring more influence to stop is quickly. hamas' mission is to continue the armed struggle against israel. that's air validation, their ideology. and to undermine the palestinian authority -- it's a tricky balance for them to achieve. the sad part about all off this, aside from the tragic loss of life, one israeli was killed, children and palestinian children were killed and civilians, is that this was a kind of wash, repeat cycle. and wash, rinse, repeat cycle. for the communities, the israelis who live near the border, palestinians, civilians in gaza, it really is a tragedy and it's going to recur.

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of them palestinians, were killed in the violence last week. and just minutes after the ceasefire was announced, rockets continue to be fired from gaza with sirens blaring in israel warning of incoming missiles. for now palestinians in gazathet there is still no resolve between israel and palestinian militant groups operating out of gaza. cnn is live in jerusalem with more this morning. elliot, what's the latest? >> reporter: it got off to a shaky start but the ceasefire is holding. it was supposed to come in effect at 10:00 p.m. local time. for at least an hour after that militant groups, continued to fire rockets to israel and israel carried out airstrikes after that deadline. now for the last 14 hours or so peace and quiet has prevailed. as you say, border crossings are gradually reopening allowing,

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>> and we made -- the world may need egypt to come in and negotiate the ceasefires again as they did in this case. flesh out, if you would, egypt's role here not only in the direct work between islamic jihad and israel to get this truce, hoping that it will hold, but also the indirect investment in gaza that likely played some role in hamas' decision not to jeopardize that if they were to join in with islamic jihad in this fight. >> very good points. you have key crossing points between egypt and gaza, which is critically important to the economy in gaza. remember also, victor, that power line islamic jihad was created as an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood. the reality is the military leadership in egypt has a stake in undermining that organization. so they have a stake in stability in gaza and, frankly,

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wanted to accomplish when the first -- within the first 48 hours of the operation. and longer it went on, the fewer targets there were to hit and the greater the danger of civilian casualties. as it is, you had 35 palestinians killed, 147 woundinged, including six children. so there is clearly a limited value in these sorts of operations. if they are prolonged. the key, victor, is hamas. and hamas, whose repository of high trajectory weapons so much stronger, more precise with greater range than the palestinian islamic jihad stayed out of this because they didn't want to disrupt the benefits that accruing to the population. 17,000 palestinian workers from gaza are now in israel working every day. hamas did not want destruction of civilian infrastructure,

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>> let's bring in aaron david miller a long time middle east negotiator and a senior fellow -- for international peace. let's start with the question that elliot put forward. will this hold? what's your expectation? >> ceasefires, victor, thanks for having me, are made to be broken. i suspect both the israelis and palestinian israelis jihad have achieved what they sought. this is the third round in ten months and i think the israelis have mounted no less than 15 significant military operations since they disengaged from gaza. so this is just a respite. it may last for months. it could go a year. but it's not going to hold over time. >> you tweeted that israel was too optimistic about a quick ceasefire. this was before the ceasefire was announced. why? >> you know, i think the israelis accomplished what they

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