modest drawdowns. the president has said substantial drawdowns. modest? significant? >> the question depends on what time frame you're using. in july, it will seem like a modest number. >> reporter: modest in the military's mind would be a few thousands troops, no more than 5,000. with americans souring on the war and bin laden now dead, some are calling for a larger number. there are suggests the president could settle on something as high as 15,000 troops. >> if we accelerate withdrawal right now because we're war-weary, we're going to lose this war. >> reporter: the u.s. admitted ...