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before _ thought that you had someone orjust before the _ thought that you had someone orjust before the news who said she didn't think that _ before the news who said she didn't think that people were that well—informed about the health risks, _ well—informed about the health risks, well, of course everyone is, you would — risks, well, of course everyone is, you would have to live under a rock not to _ you would have to live under a rock not to be — you would have to live under a rock not to be. so, presumably i am going to pay— not to be. so, presumably i am going to pay for— not to be. so, presumably i am going to pay for these inserts which is going _ to pay for these inserts which is going to — to pay for these inserts which is going to put the price up again so there _ going to put the price up again so there will— going to put the price up again so there will be vat on that and some exercise. _ there will be vat on that and some exercise, and quite simply, i totally— exercise, and quite simply, i totally object to it, if i choose to smoke _ totally object to it, if i choose to smoke and — totally object to it, if i choose to smoke and i don't belong in the lower— smoke and i don't belong in the lower socio—economic group, then that is— lower socio—economic group, then that is my— lower socio—economic group, then that is my decision, i don't need people _ that is my decision, i don't need people like _ that is my decision, i don't need people like deborah telling me it is bad for— people like deborah telling me it is bad for me. yes, i already know that, _ bad for me. yes, i already know that, deborah, thank euphoria to rating _ that, deborah, thank euphoria to rating it — that, deborah, thank euphoria to rating it. and ijust find it... we're — rating it. and ijust find it... we're so _ rating it. and ijust find it... we're so concerned with beating around _ we're so concerned with beating around the edges of relatively minor problems— around the edges of relatively minor problems that we're ignoring all the bil problems that we're ignoring all the big problems. and if it costs 6.1
billion— big problems. and if it costs 6.1 billion to — big problems. and if it costs 6.1 billion to service the fat people around — billion to service the fat people around and it only costs three and a bit billion— around and it only costs three and a bit billion to — around and it only costs three and a bit billion to service the smokers, then— bit billion to service the smokers, then l'm — bit billion to service the smokers, then i'm sorry, the emphasis should be on _ then i'm sorry, the emphasis should be on obesity, not on smoking. because — be on obesity, not on smoking. because obese people, they get more cancer, _ because obese people, they get more cancer, more circulatory problems, they are _ cancer, more circulatory problems, they are more difficult to operate on. $0. _ they are more difficult to operate on. so, where is my problem? let me enjoym _ on. so, where is my problem? let me enjoym i_ on. so, where is my problem? let me enjoym l have— on. so, where is my problem? let me enjoy... i have probably got on average — enjoy... i have probably got on average another ten years of my life, average another ten years of my life. let — average another ten years of my life, let me enjoy it, please! deborah. _ life, let me enjoy it, please! deborah, comeback, deborah arnott? if you want to carry on smoking that is entirely up to you but actually it is not a minor problem, 13% of the population 5moke, up to two thirds of them will die and many of them really horrible disea5e5, lung cancer is not nice, neither is what is called chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, when your lungs lo5e pulmonary disease, when your lungs lose their elasticity, and this is not about, if you want to carry on
heroin addiction a lifestyle choice. l heroin addiction a lifestyle choice. are you comparing it to heroin? it is as difficult to quit. it does not do the same damage in all sorts of different ways but the damage to your health is massive, up to two thirds of long—term smokers die from smoking related diseases, the other thing announced today was the major condition strategy to tackle cancer, cardiovascular disease, respiratory disease, dementia, mental ill—health and skeletal disorders, namely back problems. all those things are caused by smoking, all those things and many other things besides. and and many other things besides. and exacerbated. and _ and many other things besides. and exacerbated. and i— and many other things besides. and exacerbated. and i am _ and many other things besides. and exacerbated. and i am an _ and many other things besides. and exacerbated. and i am an ex - and many other things besides. and i exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how — exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard _ exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard it _ exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard it can _ exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard it can be _ exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard it can be to - exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard it can be to quit, - exacerbated. and i am an ex smoker, i know how hard it can be to quit, i i i know how hard it can be to quit, i was a social smoker, i said i wasn't a smoker but every friday night i would go down the pub and buy a packet of cigarettes from a vending machine at an exorbitant price and smoke them all, that is not being a non—smoker. smoke them all, that is not being a non-smoker-_ non-smoker. they are exorbitant, aren't they? _ non-smoker. they are exorbitant, aren't they? simon _ non-smoker. they are exorbitant, aren't they? simon clark, - non-smoker. they are exorbitant, aren't they? simon clark, you - non-smoker. they are exorbitant, aren't they? simon clark, you are | aren't they? simon clark, you are saying the tobacco industry has been less than honest on this, deborah,
is 18, in the uk it is a0 so there's things that need to be done in the uk but also things that need to be done worldwide to tackle smoking. very interesting, deborah, thank you so much. nhs england is set to change its cancer waiting time targets — which have often been missed in recent years. it's thought nine performance standards will be reduced to three, with the aim of making diagnosis and treatment timelines easier. richard davidson is the chief executive of cancer charity sarcoma uk — hejoins me now. thank you forjoining us. your response to these proposed changes. i think more must be done to reduce waiting times and most of the targets as you say have been routinely missed over the last few years so i think anything that
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in their number was deborah, whose husband barry was infected with hepatitis c as a result of his haemophilia treatment. he later developed liver cancer. breaks my heart. i met them a year ago while i attended the inquiry. barry died a couple of months later. today, deborah told me of her sadness and frustration. the government are still making us wait, they're still... they're continuing this anguish and it's cruel. it is really, really cruel. i shouldn't be sitting here now saying all of this. they should recognise notjust what i've gone through, and i can't imagine what it must be like for people like barry or the others who are infected. their concern is that the inquiry chair has called for compensation scheme to be set up a head of the final report later this year, but that hasn't happened. the prime minister said the government
the moment, it's about £88 million. so the money is getting less. now, people talk about this is the forgotten war because of that distraction, because the world is looking away. but as we saw in that report, it is anything but forgotten by the ordinary people of yemen. james landale, thank you. the prime minister has vowed to compensate victims "as swiftly as possible" for what he described as the "appalling scandal" that left thousands of people infected with hiv and hepatitis c. the prime minister was heckled as he gave evidence at the latest hearing of the public inquiry into the use of infected blood in the 19705 and 805. our health editor hugh pym reports. some infected in the treatment scandal and others who lost loved ones demonstrated before the hearing. in their number was deborah, whose husband barry was infected with hepatitis c as a result of his haemophilia treatment. he later developed liver cancer. breaks my heart.
i met them a year ago while they attended the inquiry. barry died a couple of months later. today, deborah told me of her sadness and frustration. the government are still making us wait. they're still continuing this anguish. and it's cruel. it's really, really cruel. i shouldn't be sitting here now saying all of this. they should recognise notjust what i've gone through, and i can't imagine what it must be like for people like barry or the others who were infected. their concern is that the inquiry chair has called for a compensation scheme to be set up ahead of the final report later this year. but that hasn't happened. the prime minister said the government was committed to acting swiftly. i believe what has happened has been an appalling scandal. _ but he was pressed by the inquiry council on why after three years, there was no concrete compensation framework. is that good enough?
have that opportunity to sit with those that are making those decisions about what these narratives will be saying, and be in enforcement places. and there is so many others as well to, sarah, in mississippi, that will be even traveling to this august on the 68th anniversary of emits murder. to make sure that people understand what those places mean on that journey that heats up. >> you mentioned something, deborah, that is a very salient thing for the time we are in. now there is a lot of discussion about what is happening with florida school board. with what is what is happening -- what some people look at as whitewashing the horrific nature of slavery. what do you worry about now, and in the context of the fact that now your cousin emmett till will be recognized for what happened going, and even to this day the sort of march