poo poo platter of options, to put it in layman s terms. >> intent to conceal. there is nothing here that really is a conflict between the state and federal laws, that is what judge hellerstein said, and trump s team decided after that to not appeal that decision. if you look at the decisional law it really would be inconsistent. >> it is heavy lift. >> what is the scuttlebutt on the appeals court? the second highest. 21 justices, i know it is hard to generalize given the number of justices there. but do you think that they would be inclined to hear, to give trump the benefit of the doubt? >> the intermediate appellate court is a matter of right. he has the right to appeal there. whether the court of appeals, the highest one. >> i know, the second highest court. the first division. >> the appellate division is the middle one.
ever could. >> the only voice that matters is the voice of the jury and the jury has spoken. >> joining our discussion now, adam klasfeld, a fellow at justice security. lisa rubin, msnbc legal correspondent. both were in the courtroom when the trump verdict was announced. also with us, andrew weissmann, former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. lisa, i want to take you back to that moment and to the breaking, the final breaking of that suspense and hearing that first guilty doesn t mean you will hear 33 more guilty s. you have to patiently wait as the verdicts unfold on multiple counts. take us back to the moments when you heard the first guilty. >> i can t even begin to describe the shock i was feeling and you are right to
justice. that s everything that we should be fighting against. equal justice under the law is what we re four. and not some been accepted from justice because they either decided to run for president or they re rich i just wanted to ask you before i let you go, we re now nearing the 80th anniversary of d-day. of course, that led to the defeat of the nazis. it s coming up next week now, 80 years later, the leading republican candidate for president is declaring the usa a quote, fascist state. there has been hitler propaganda that he s put out there how do you think history judges this moment and what does it say that 80 years later? this is what s going on look, i think 100 years ago was about was the 1930s. >> this is a real similar time to the 1930s. you have open nazis operating there was some massive division but this just goes to show me that donald trump is not a true leader. he
those who are not firmly in a biden or trump camp? >> yeah. it s a great question, and i think without a doubt, obviously, it really does electrify his base. and it solidifies the republican party. there s no longer any division about ron desantis or nikki haley or anything like. that but i also think that it does appeal to a lot of those independents and people who are looking at this and they see that, clearly, this is the not what our justice system is supposed to be about a, and they may not particularly -- they certainly don t like donald trump, but they also a don t particularly like politicians in general. and so the idea that you have a party that is cheerily trying to use the -- clearly trying the use the justice system in order to weaponize it for political purposes, that is the most appalling thing there is. think about this, this whole trial was designed to humiliate donald trump, to keep him off the campaign trail, bankrupt him and, hopefully, put him in jail.
i think you are setting off to the east of the country today, so take this with you. we have plenty more in the back. distribute them everywhere, because this is a better choice. a clear choice. more chaos, more division, because they are not going to change. they have already failed. they will fail again, and it will be costing every single person in this country. or turn the page, renew, and go forward with labour. lets vote labour for change and renewal, vote labour, thank you very much! got that card? studio: labour outlining and unveiling that battle bus, the labour battle bus that is being launched today. it is going to make a 5000 mile battle bus tour, starting today, and among those pledges the party leader was talking
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all the freedom caucus, but there s no question at all we have the sort of you know the breakdown in the assumption, that we are a team and when you were there, we are much more the team with division going on and conference and unity on the floor but again, there is that issue that you nice as for security, but is also the issue the biggest some people do not get enough, it divides us. in the next election with president trump coming back to office, border security being a priority come i think it were to be able to focus also on the fact that there are other borders that enemies are attacking which by the way includes debates about taiwan. they didn t get the big headlines was quite bipartisan and we know china is a threat and that is absolutely something where the right thing to do more. >> chairman you re from california, all dragon is all
all the freedom caucus, but there s no question at all we have the sort of you know the breakdown in the assumption, that we are a team and when you were there, we are much more the team with division going on and conference and unity on the floor but again, there is that issue that you nice as for security, but is also the issue the biggest some people do not get enough, it divides us. in the next election with president trump coming back to office, border security being a priority come i think it were to be able to focus also on the fact that there are other borders that enemies are attacking which by the way includes debates about taiwan. they didn t get the big headlines was quite bipartisan and we know china is a threat and that is absolutely something where the right thing to do more. >> chairman you re from california, all dragon is all
coventry for one bag then another calive has wickedly deflected shot, sailing into the top corner and commentary you play in the division below the premier league, kept going earning a penalty deepen injury time. and haji right converted it to force extra-time manchester united have really struggled to season. this was about to go down as one of the all-time i m sure it s right at the deck was penalties looming. viktor top stuck at a boot to win it for coventry, except he hadn t as the jubilation died down, the video review he would an offside by to hit that about a shoelace so that meant a shootout and coventry is ferocious resistance. finally wilted they missed to of their cakes leaving rasmus hojlund to convert the winner, denied his players hardly celebrated though. they knew that they were pretty lucky once again thank you very much. great control and and we out to be played really well for the first 60 minutes we can go off