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The Situation Room-20150330-21:04:00

captain told lubitz soon after take off he hadn't gone to the bathroom in barcelona. he said go any time. the plane reached cruising altitude and the captain asked lubitz to prepare for landing and he repeats you can go now and the captain is heard getting up saying you can take over. the cockpit door is locked lubitz is alone and reprograms the auto pilot to take the jet straight towards the alps. air traffic control tries to contact the plane after detecting the aircraft's descent. no answer. an alarm goes off warning. 10:35 noises as though somebody was trying to knock the door down. warning terrain pull up.

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:21:00

if he didn't show anything dramatic he let it go. that doesn't mean there wasn't anything. what's important to to know this guy was a murder. he's a cold blooded mass murder. we cannot talk about this being a depressed illness. people depressed are not bringing 149 people in the side of a mountain. >> if he had been your patient, lisa and come to you and said he's depressed and suicidal and he hates his accompany, he wants to bring down a plane. under the rules are you allowed to go to authorities and reveal what he has told you? >> here's what it is. it's called the privilege of privacy ends where the public begins. >> you could have gone to them. >> yes. >> you have deferent rules, right. >> we don't nope. we haven't heard specifically what the german rules are about

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:05:00

this time the captain yells open the damn door. at 10:38 the sound of lubitz breathing. more passengers scream. the report says those are the last sounds on the recording as the jet goes down and is obliterated. >> tonight here in germany, wolf investigators are horrified that the transcript of the cockpit recording was late because the families had to learn their loved ones on the plane 149 innocent people were helpless and aware something was seriously wrong for a full eight mens from the time the captain started banging on the door. just horrifying details, wolf. >> there may be a lot of leaks coming to the news media about what happened. the prosecutors official sources, they're giving out a lot of public information. certainly more than we would get here in the united states from the national transportation

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:07:00

78 of the 150 people have been identified. some bodies may never be found we're told. cnn's carl is joining us from the crash site with more. what else can you tell us carl? >> the good news is tonight, wolf, the mayor says it could be ready as soon as tomorrow. that will smooth things up because it will enable alter rain vehicles and recovery teams to get into the crash site and bring out human remains and frackments frack fragments of the plane. the weather very windy and flying has been treacherous. the other thing as you point out, there may be less consolation for some families because already the forensic teams say the speed of the crash was perhaps some of the bodies

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:19:00

well. >> the passengers the 149 people on the plane, the crew members, how do you know you're safe on the plane if a mental health screening isn't part of a certification of a pilot's license? >> it is part of getting the job. the self-reporting mechanisms that are in place have worked extremely well until now. you've got to understand in this case wolf or its really important what is exception naillynail rare here. he lied cheated, didn't reveal what he should have revealed. the su sigh dal tendencies were before he joined the airline. he did everything possible to avoid the truth coming out. we don't even know probably half the story of what he told the doctors he went to see. you cannot put in place a

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:20:00

penalty of bureaucracy that's going to always pick up the person. you can't. >> you agree this guy should have never been allowed in the cockpit of a plane like that. >> he probably shouldn't been behind the wheel of a car. never mind flying a plane. this is not about depression or mental illness. this is about somebody who was so ill and in such a state that really the system failed to pick him up to be sure. it's questionable. you cannot turn the entire airline community and put on top of them a sort of restriction because of this particular individual case. it won't work. >> but lisa, how did he manage to deceive so many people? his colleagues friends, bosses? he came across as relatively normal and wasn't. >> well he may have come across as relatively normal to them because they weren't looking for anything.

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:29:00

note or confession. prosecuteors saying it's a mystery as to the motive. he didn't have any personal problems with his girl friend or family members at the stage in the investigation, still a lot of unanswered questions and a mystery, wolf. >> pamela stand by. i want to bring back richard quest and former f.b.i. agent. join richard, take us through this time line we now had the plane start to descend around 1029 tim 10:29 a.m. local time. screams last heard at 10:40 a.m. if a pilot is going to bring a plane down is that how he or she would do it? >> well, the idea you would just put the nose down manually and just crash it that way, the air bus 320 has various protections in it that might prevent the

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:31:00

purpose. as far as the controls of the plane and what dials were touched at what point, they need the data recorder to reveal that. right now they're going on what they heard over the sound of the recording and that's really about all they have plus what the police are finding in his apartment and medical records. otherwise, i don't know. >> should authorities and airlines, for that matter, do more formal psychological testing for these pilots? >> i think they should wolf. they do when they're initially hired but it appears as though that might have escaped them in this case. but now what i'm concerned with is the continuing surveillance and continuing monitoring of these psychological conditions that just rely on self-reporting. i do believe there more analysis done in that area. >> who should do psychological testing for recertification for

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The Situation Room-20150330-21:32:00

pilot's license? >> well, i think the recertification need to fall the burden of that should be on the medical examiners themselves. however, we need to designate psychological medical examiners qualified to do that. we don't do that on a broad basis. that's where the focus needs to go. >> he passed his pilot recertification pilot medical examination. he had been to a medical clinic as recently though as this month he was being monitored but how is that not a red flag as far as the airline is concerned? >> because we don't know if the airline knew or what clinic he went to. that university clinic he went to if he hadn't told them he was a pilot, they had no way of knowing he shouldn't be flying a plane. they said he wasn't fit for work but never told us what work he wasn't fit for.

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The Situation Room-20150330-22:06:00

indicating the plane is losing altitude too quickly. >> the fact that he had all these bells and whistles going off to tell him that he was in trouble was almost to the point where it was too late. >> reporter: then loud banging on the door. the captain is heard shouting for god sake open the door. passengers are screaming. at 10:35, the plane is at about 23,000 feet and still rapidly deskendde descend descending. then bangs. 90 seconds later, another alarm is triggered in the cockpit that sounds like this. >> pull up. >> reporter: the captain pleads open the damn door. 13,000 feet the co-pilot is heard breathing steadily. they believe they heard the plane's right wing scrape a mountain. passengers are heard screaming once again before impact. cnn has not been able to

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