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and able to coordinate further attacks, jake. >> yeah, i saw earlier at the site of the apartment. you could see through the window, the shot we're showing to our viewers right now, police forensic teams clad head to toe trying to make sense of the wreckage before them. tim, is there any further clarity on the question of how much of these horrific paris attacks from five days ago were actually planned and directed from isis leaders in syria? >> i think that's a huge question. what we got the sense of in investigating this and previous attacks is that isis likes to almost subcontract some of its work, especially in the field of foreign attacks. we know that french and belgium fighters very much hang out together in syria. they work together on the battle front. they plant together. so there is this possibility that a french network that also
going on. and i think they're pushing this intensity and not least because france has become a much more active partner in the coalition strikes against syria. i think isis is putting down a major marker and changing the landscape of this conflict with the west through these operations. it wants to make a big point, and it's succeeding. >> reporter: tim, what is the weight of the unknown here when you hear from officials that we don't know if this operation today, this team, this cell, whatever you want to call them, is the end of it, that there could be others? >> i think one thing that's become absolutely apparent from this series of events is that european intelligence agencies don't have much of a handle on who's coming back from syria, whether they have intent to carry out attacks on european soil. it's estimated that the several hundred european fighters with
isis about a quarter have come back. but we know at least two probably three of those involved last friday had gone to syria, come back undetected. even their families had no idea that they had come back. the belgian justice minister said, we hadn't a clue that one of these attackers was back on belgian soil. he made the point they don't have the resources to track these people. every single fighter that comes back from syria or iraq is estimated at 25 officers, analysts are acquired to track their moverments. this is the scale of the charge. and the europeans are really scrambling to catch up with the flow of both outward and backwards. on top of which you have the silos of intelligence, intelligence agencies very zealous of their sources, information. they're not sharing enough information. it's a huge challenge, chris. >> tim lister, stefan due vees, thank you very much. you would think the authorities would be celebratory today.
apartments. the prosecutor saying he is not in custody. but if he was killed, well, that we still don't know. state television in belgium says a woman who blew herself up as the french commandos moved in was his cousin. thousands of miles away, french war planes today launching new attacks on isis command centers in syria as an isis magazine claims it was indeed their terrorists who brought down that russian jet just a few weeks ago in late october, publishing a photograph of what they say was the bomb, the ied in this case, according to isis, a soda can and some kind of simple detonation device. that is, if you believe these claims from isis. let's bring in nic robertson, cc international correspondent. nic, carly ward actually climbed on a rooftop close to where you are where she could see the raided apartment. let me play a bit of that for us
victim rz of radicalization that are acting on youth in europe, all over europe, and with syria obviously in the background acting as an inspiration, magnet, intellectual center of gravity of it all. >> so, naviyd, let's take another step into this. how? how does that work? what's the psychology of it? you come up to a guy in prison who gets picked up on robbery doing time. he's a con man. he's on the make this guy, not necessarily looking to be a bloody murderer. what is that progression? >> well, terrorism first of all is a criminal enterprise, and sadly there will always be an abundance of people who are willing to take it on. it's just the case. there will always be these foot soldiers. the bigger question is how do we detect and stop it? you know, we can talk about ideology, radicalization. i think frankly the burr time and effort of the intelligence services is spent on how we detect it. you guys have done a phenomenal job talking about encryption.
publicly an regularly in isis propagan propaganda. they all the same if that is the case managed to get himself back into europe undetected. brooke? >> they have to find him. they're working on it. nick paton walsh live inside of syria. thanks to you. back to paris now to my colleague jake tapper. >> thanks, brooke. just moments ago the french prosecutor detailed just how dangerous and difficult the conditions were for police as they raided a third floor apartment in northern paris. officers firing 5,000 rounds, five of the individuals were wounded. the shootout alone lasted an hour. bystanders captured some of the siege on camera.ç [ gunfire ]
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