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dress after this heated hearing the head of the irs division that staged the $4 million conference trying to make a quick get away but griff jenkins trying t trying to grir more answers. >> at any point when you were appearing in the videos did you or any one else think that was not an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars, sir? don't you feel like you should at least owe an apology to the american people? >> do you you have any plans to step down over this? >> mr. fink, with you agree $4 million for a conference is the inappropriate use of american taxpayer dollars? mr. fink, will you be resigning any time soon? so, that we can stop running here, will you teak one moment to apologize to our audience of taxpayers for your actions?
conference, fink, a 32-year irs veteran stayed in an upgraded suite hotel like this. he doesn't know how many dollars were spent at this conference. >> you are totally ignorant of the expenses? >> i was not involved in the planning. >> who was? >> reporter: lawmakers repeatedly blasted irs hypocrisy requiring taxpayers to save receipts but not saving its own documents. that $4 million conference may have cost more. >> could it be $6 million? think carefully, you're under oath? could it be $6 million? >> there's no way i would know that. >> two irs employees were placed on administrative leave this week for accepting free food at the 2010 conference, but part of the problem was most of the lavish spending was allowed under irs rules then. since they have been changed. dana bash, cnn, capitol hill. could it be bachmann in 2006? she's not ruing it out.
not have made it out alive and they did in the midst of tragedy there seems at least there is one miracle. an irs official said no rules were broken and no fraud occurred. in hindsight though, the agency probably should not have used taxpayer dollars to make a star trek parody video for a conference which was replayed today on capitol hill. >> i'm afraid without skilled leaders, anarchy is spreading across the planet like a virus. >> the man you just saw playing mr. spock is irs official ferris fink. there was this question for mr. fink. >> what were you thinking? it's embarrassing. and i apologize. >> he said he regrets the videos were ever made. got ready for this. i hope you're sitting down. an inspector general report we went through and found.
to secure taxpayers' hard-earned money than i can remember in history. >> you cannot take the money of american workers and waste it. >> the irs effectively was guilty of tax evasion. >> mr. george, according to your report the irs conference in anaheim in 2010 cost more than $000,000 is that correct? >> yes, it is, sir. >> you could have saved a million dollars by holding this conference in orlando? >> mr. fink, are you familiar with this guy? >> this is the gsa official in the hot tub. have you ever seen that picture? >> i have seen that picture, yes, jury mr. george, in your report you have squirting fish as part of $64,000. is any one -- has any one seen a squirting fish. did you see one at the
back together. rick, thank you very much. bill: the storm is flying right now. 30 miles an hour. martha: you think he is concerned about his job now that i've been standing in front. weather screen doing a fantastic job? bill: your performance should make him nervous. martha: i think he is feeling pretty safe right now. bill: on the heels of a major court ruling in her fight for life a dying young girl takes a turn for the worst. an update on her condition and what her battle means for other children desperate for a new organ. >> anarchy is spreading across the planet like a virus. martha: oh, man, i bet he regrets that moment. he said as much yesterday in the hearing. the irs manager who played mr. spock, not dr. spock, in a taxpayer-funded video, lands a starring role on capitol hill. the tax agency offering apologies how they mishandled millions of dollars. can it really change their old ways and their old habits? >> i will start with mr. fink. what were you thinking? >> the fact of the matter is,
conference? >> no, sir,, i did not. >> mr. fink, we have what we understand is the swag from the event. it also included i'm kind of confused by saying this, a plastic squirting fish. why would people get a plastic squirting fish? >> congressman, as i mentioned, i honestly have no idea what the plastic squirting fish was. >> when did you think that something was wrong here? did you ever think something was wrong here? you are in charge. this is what is so infuriating. you are in charge. >> while your fellow he americans are losing their jobs and their health insurance and their homes you do not spend $4 million at a conference for which there is no accountability. >> i'm in the wrong business. i never got a plastic squirting fish ever. joining me with reaction, former speaker of the house newt gingrich. did you ever get a plastic
there seems at least there is one miracle. an irs official said no ruldz were broken and no fraud occurred. in hindsight though, the agency probably should not have used taxpayer dollars to make a star trek parody video for a conference which was replayed today on capitol hill. >> i'm afraid without skilled leaders, anarchy is spreading across the planet like a virus. >> the man you just saw playing mr. spock is irs official ferris fink. there was this question for mr. fink. >> what were you thinking? it's embarrassing. and i apologize. >> he said he regrets the videos were ever made. got ready for this. i hope you're sitting down. an inspector general report we went through and found. this the irs spent $50,187 on videos for this conference. of which 2,400 was used to construct a mock set of the star ship enterprise. it took 62 staff hours to produce the final video.
said. >> you can not take the money of american workers and waste it. >> the irs effectively was guilty of tax evasion. >> mr. george, according to your report the irs conference in anaheim in 2010 cost more than $4 million, is that correct? >> yes it is, sir. >> you could have saved a million dollars by holding this conference in orlando? >> mr. fink, are you familiar with this guy? this is the gsa official in the hot tub? have you ever seen that picture? >> i have seen that picture, yes, sir. >> mr. george, in your report, you have squirting fish as part of $64,000. has anyone, anyone seen a squirting fish? did you see one at the conference? >> no, sir, i did not. >> mr. fink, we have what we understand is the swag bag from the event. what was in these swag bags,
shifted the focus on extravagant spending at the tax collection agency. it featured a deputy irs commissioner that played mr. spock played at a lavish conference in anaheim, california. >> it's spreading across the planet like a virus. >> mr. fink, what were you thinking? >> the fact of the matter is, it's embarrassing i apologize. >> reporter: he said he watched the video a number of times ahead of time. >> i have looked at it over again, i swear i do not see the redeeming value. >> and who authorized spending $4 million on one conference? >> i didn't come aware of massive expense until much later. i did not know the expense at the time of the conference. >> reporter: but he
conference which was replayed today on capitol hill. >> i'm afraid without skilled leaders, anarchy is spreading across the planet like a virus. >> the man you just saw playing mr. spock is irs official ferris fink. there was this question for mr. fink. >> what were you thinking? it's embarrassing. and i apologize. >> he said he regrets the videos were ever made. got ready for this. i hope you're sitting down. an inspector general report we went through and found. this the irs spent $50,187 on videos for this conference. of which 2,400 was used to construct a mock set of the star ship enterprise. it took 62 staff hours to produce the final video. and $4.1 million were spent on the conference. at least they think because