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tweeted after the january 6th insurrection, make sure you never forget this day. and i promise you, we won't, donald. >> as we've been talking, about the january six committee today leveled several charges against former president donald trey trump. >> inciting giving comfort insurrectionists, comes just weeks after two oath keepers were convicted of seditious conspiracy a major crime. and former members of the group are facing trial for it as we speak. as welcome back former oath keepers spokesperson jason van tatenhove he testified before the committee earlier this summer. his book the perils of extremism how i left the oath keepers and why we should be concerned about a future civil war, is due out next year. jason, you know this could very well, how do you think their reaction to the criminal referrals? everything we learned today. >> i think we're gonna see a chilling effect to begin with. you know we've kind of cut the
doesn't get pushed under the rug. and actually, i just realized today that donald trump had tweeted after the january 6th insurrection, make sure you never forget this day. and i promise you, we won't, donald. >> as we've been talking, about the january six committee today leveled several charges against former president donald trey trump. >> inciting giving comfort insurrectionists, comes just weeks after two oath keepers were convicted of seditious conspiracy a major crime. and former members of the group are facing trial for it as we speak. as welcome back former oath keepers spokesperson jason van tatenhove he testified before the committee earlier this summer. his book the perils of extremism how i left the oath keepers and why we should be concerned about a future civil war, is due out next year. jason, you know this could very well, how do you think their
former oath keepers spokesman, jason and teton have. his book, the perils of extremism, high left the oath keepers, and why we should be concerned but a future civil war, is due out early next year. i turn to you first, you've been in that courtroom for weeks on end. how big a deal is this verdict? and explain to us, the seriousness of seditious conspiracy. >> it's a big deal, if the charge not of not often, brought seditious conspiracy. last time it was was in 2010 in 2012, they just judge dismissed those, charges the charges didn't even make it to the jury. so the prosecutors had to think long and hard, whether the evidence they had satisfied the burden of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt. i think they took a little bit of a risk, and the risk paid off. i think this is such an important verdict, because this will end up sort of stiffening the spine of doj prosecutors, because they have other
party. >> let me just say that there is no room in the republican party for antisemitism, or white supremacy. and anyone meeting with people advocating for that point of view, in my judgment, are highly unlikely to ever be elected president of the united states. >> with that, let's get smarter with the help of our lead off panel tonight, luke broadwater, pulitzer prize-winning congressional reporter for the new york times, former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner, who is closely watched oath keepers trial, and former oath keepers jason bed tighten house. his book, the perils of extremism, high left the oath keepers, and why we should be concerned but a future civil war, is due out early next year. glenn, i turn to you first, you have been in that courtroom for weeks on end. how big a deal is this verdict? and explain to us, the seriousness of seditious conspiracy.
be concerned about a future civil war is due out early next year. your former boss, his trial begins tomorrow. this guy was once a yellow law student, how do you go from there to here? >> i think it has to do with disenfranchisement. i think if we look at some of some of his coworkers, back when he was working for the arizona supreme court, they talk about how he really kind of became more angry with his rhetoric, and how he was talking just with fellow clerks. i think all of this has to do with people being disenfranchised with way the lives are at the moment. things may not be going so well, and they latch onto movements like this. >> the disenfranchised yell law alumni, assad side group, we're also hearing more about roger stone, his ties to the group. andrew, giuliani, possibly testing members of the group.
to help. he's not pardoning. he's unable to do that now. but you know, we've seen this with stewart rhodes, with some of his legal clients where he just goes to them, ghosts them and he lost his license because of that. and i think it is that type of thing that will reach those people more than anything. >> keep a close eye on who is paying the legal bills. thank you for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. and the new book "the perils of extremism" how i left the oath keepers and why we should be concerned about a future civil war, it might not be a fun read but an important one. coming up, georgia may well be the source of the next big developments in the 2020 election investigation. we have headlines coming from there when our special coverage continues. s coming from there when our special coverage
up and answering when people are calling and pulling them. do you think members of oath keepers, proud boys, or watching this and turning on trump? he certainly hasn't pardon anyone. >> i don't think. so i made, if anything, the thing that will turn them off or turn them against trump would be just seeing what happens with the prosecutions and actually having some account. and then he's not doing anything to help. he's not part nick he's unable to do that now but we have seen this with stewart rhodes and with some of this legal clients where he just goes to them and he lost his license because of that. i think it is that type of thing that's gonna reaches people more than anything. while keeping a close eye on who's paying the legal bills. jason, thank you so much for joining us tonight. i really really appreciated. and for you at home, his new book, the powers of extremism. how i left the oath keepers and why we should be concerned about a future civil war. it might not be a foundry, but it is an important one.