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there are serious consequences to domestic groups that decide to interfere with the workings of democracy. that's -- that's the big signal. i think the extension of that question is what happens to groups like the oath keepers and the proud boys. do they survive this? do they go away? do they gain strength from people who want to be part of this resistance? the proud boys has an interesting history is that it was started as a joke by gavin mcguinness as kind of a satire of male chauvinism and patriotism and then got away with him when they started actually having fights with antifa groups. a number of proud boys were arrested when i was in the nypd intelligence bureau for attacking antifa protesters outside a republican club. they were convicted and faced jail time. that was when gavin mcguinness

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

hospitals and at libraries -- >> yes, but andy, then tucker carlson goes into his 10,000 square foot home on one of the country clubs he's a member, of where none of these proud boys could get in on a wing and a prayer. nobody is working woken up to that? yet you >> are absolutely right. gavin mcguinness, the founder of the proud boys, is dishing sitting in his ritzy home in upstate new york, dishing out orders -- these guys have not figured it out. and the gop on the whole has never rebuffed any of this violence. >> goodness gracious. andy campbell, thank you for joining. i really appreciate it. and again, it ain't half the country. coming up -- he is a news anchor and a dear friend of this show. and now he is on a mission to pay it forward. with an important mission for all of us -- you better stick around for when the 11th hour continues. the 11th hour continues acos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. well, good luck with that. earn big with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback?

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are these groups losing steam? or gaining power? >> they are gaining power. >> how? >> because, again, the gop has never rebuffed is violence, even after january 6th. tucker carlson points his finger at drag queens story hours, and within 24 hours, across the country, proud boys join, neo-nazis join, militiamen, at drag queens story hours at children's hospitals and at libraries -- >> yes, but andy, then tucker carlson goes into his 10,000 square foot home on one of the country clubs he's a member, of where none of these proud boys could get in on a wing and a prayer. nobody is working woken up to that? yet you >> are absolutely right. gavin mcguinness, the founder of the proud boys, is dishing sitting in his ritzy home in upstate new york, dishing out orders -- these guys have not figured it out. and the gop on the whole has never rebuffed any of this violence. >> goodness gracious. andy campbell, thank you for joining. i really appreciate it. and again, it ain't half the country.

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Velshi

gavin mcguinness. that is just one of the emmy many anti-semitic things he said that month. donald trump, who has his own long rap sheet of antisemitic rhetoric had a sit-down dinner with the rapper formerly known as kanye west and the prominent white supremacist -- kyrie irving posted a link to a movie that promotes antisemitic insurgencies and denies that the holocaust ever happen. over the past few months, the anti jewish rhetoric from these highly influential people has materialized into actual anti jewish action. no one seems to be able to make a correlation of causation argument here. because ye and his views have been reference from into jewish hate crime defenders. a few days after want to yeas anti -- a huge banner was law, -- quote, kanye was right about the jews. promoting an anti jewish group calling the growing an anti-defense the. just this week, an elderly man

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why did penn state invite the founder of the proud boys? what did they think was going to happen on campus? >> well, it was a student group that invited them. but penn state till students who were concerned about the proud boys coming to campus that this was a speech issue. but, students told, me no, this isn't a speech issue, this is a school safety issue. gavin mcguinness has rules of violence for his gang. he says the top level of the proud boys can only be achieved if you commit a significant active violence for the cause. and, so they knew, coming in, that the proud boys were going to be there. and they knew from students telling the administration that govern mcguinness had been on a parade of violence with his proud boys for the next six years. and, so they knew something was going to happen. and, clearly you saw from the video that it did multiple students and members of the media were amazed by proud boys and their allies. so, the violence did come.

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Velshi

mcguinness, who is one of the founders of the proud boys. also, somebody who might readers might know from vice. in his vision of america, everyone has a gun and stands prepared to shoot looters during the riots in ferguson, quote, this is not in gavin's words, or in any effing riots this year. welfare, which he likened to giving black people money to dump their boyfriends, is abolished. the borders are closed because, according to mcginiss, if you think immigrants are sweethearts just coming here to clean your house, you are an effing more on, and quote. and americans would, venerate their house flags -- women for declining fertility rates. this is meander neanderthal stuff. it is racist, and neanderthal stuff. the point you make in your book is, before being on the fringes, was that the moment it became mainstream? when donald trump talked about it on the main stage? >> i think it's the moment when the american public saw this stuff but this rhetoric has been around forever.

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>> at some point, do these groups that inside the proud boys not cite -- say to themselves, this might be too far, or we are going to unleash something that will cause real problems? i, mean the gop and fox news and others can say, nothing to do the with these people, they have nothing to do with us. these are extremist group of wackos. >> absolutely not. the gop has not rebuffed them. trump certainly has not rebuffed them. they haven't rebuffed any extremists. the violence they've committed, as a defense. you know, against the leftist threat that fox news is about. you're going to see, through extremist candidates on american ballots, what the american public is accepting in terms of political violence, and extremism going forward. >> i want to read a quote from the book about the birth of the proud boys. you were referring to gavin

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170812:15:07:00

a list of who's down there marching in terms of the so-called alt right, the white nationalist groups. white rights activist jason kessler who lives in charlottesville is apparently the organizer of this protest. that is the person who is organizing this rally. kessler is a newly sworn in member according to "news week" of the proud boys alt right fraternity created by vice news co-founder turned right wing provok for, gavin mcguinness and expected to attend. i'll let you listen for a second so we can hear what they're chanting. >> it's hard to hear. let's go to the next person. matthew heineback. a new generation of white nationalists. a student in maryland and founded and started a chapter at the youth for western

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was his decision so much as everybody else, all these democrats. and the clintons. >> yes. >> you know, how early do you have to jump into this race? it's too late? it's over a year! >> i know. i could still get into the race, jedediah. what do they have on him? is it just actually stuff he's said that we already know about? >> it's just clips we've all played on television. they'll just be played, the wheelchair one. there's tons. >> the wheelchair. >> that being said, he's such a loveable guy. >> really? >> no, look, i've got a soft spot for the biden. i do. >> he would find it. >> he would, yes. he's the kind of guy you want to have a beer with. you feel a lot of empathy for what he's been through. >> i don't think he drinks. >> i had a beer with gavin mcguinness. >> i think gavin should run, are you kidding me? >> i don't even want to be near gavin mcginnis.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20150913:06:54:00

coming up tomorrow on the next "red eye" cooper lawrence, gavin mcginnis and lou daabs. lou dabbs. set lasers to stunned. during saturday's half time show the kansas state marching band formed the image of the star ship ept prize fighting -- enterprise fighting the kansas jayhawk. except it looked to many people like something else. the band and the school president apologized for the formation. but the band's director said there was absolutely no intent to display anything other than the enterprise and the captain fighting.

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