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specific. >> it certainly is. we're learning more about what the suspect had with him at the time of the attack. the affidavit, the criminal affidavit says law enforcement searched depape's backpack at the residence and they found, among other things, a roll of tape, white rain, one hammer, one pair of gloves and cloth gloves, as well as a journal. what does that tell you? >> boy, it tells me a little bit and there's a lot i don't know. the first thing it tells me is thank god he didn't plan more carefully. imagine a scenario where the speaker's husband did not have access to his phone, for example, the stuff in the backpack, the tape and the ties. if those had been used initially and the speaker's husband didn't have access to his phone, how long would he have been sitting there and what damage would the attacker have done? the questions that i don't have answered, we just talked about what was in the backpack. what do we know about communications with other people, what do we know about the kinds of material this individual was looking at and
that they are, sort of vestige of the old white boy network, therefore they're expendable. it is a very interesting take on it. maybe we'll play later on in the show because it is fascinating. a lot of angles to this. pete: i take your point well and it was in some ways we'll see what the investigation reveals. almost a technicalities of his bosses and others what he to them that took him down. not any of the rest of what goes on at cnn. do they actually ever learn that lesson at all? your head shaking says the answer. rachel: what would have taken him down, if i would have been that producer and chris cuomo grabbed me from behind, my husband would have taken chris cuomo down. that husband didn't. the wife wrote a email. that is crazy. pete: strongly worded all caps. to a family behind bars. jennifer, james and ethan crumbley all locked up in the
that gamble? >> husband didn't even know i was rationing. i just -- it's sick, but the thought of having more debt was scarier than the thought of maybe dying in my sleep. >> in her case, she was rationing her insulin. that's the state of the union tonight. and so is this, an official at the union for air traffic controllers, who are on the job actually saying air safety is now being compromised. >> it is already less safe than it was a month ago when we shut down. we have critical components to safety that are not there. we have processes not there. training not taking place, distraction in the workplace. we have controllers actually reporting to us that they're making mistakes when they are giving clearances, clearing planes in places where they shouldn't be clearing them in conflict with other airplanes because they're so stressed out about how they are going to take care of their family. their livelihood is threatened at this point. this cannot go on for months and
obvious what he's doing. >> your question is would the attorney general force someone to take a look into this? and when barr was testifying, what he says was, you know, there is no problem with the president asking us to look into something. but there is a question to dana's point about whether we would perceive. >> so much for the white house ever saying we want everybody to cooperate. >> oh my god, that was so 2017. that wasn't even 2018. >> that was like two months. >> that was like three lawyers ago. >> it was three lawyers ago. so do you think he would be subpoenaed? connelly was saying he'd like him to be. >> i think he will be. >> what about testifying behind closed doors. would that be worse or would that be better? >> the committee was already planning on examining him behind closed doors. but oversight, connelly's committee was supposed to testify, is supposed to have him testify in public. i suppose that is one way you could address the problem. i mean, don't kid yourself.
place, but as far as i know, they were not huge, heated discussions. if they were, my husband didn't say anything. but as far as i know, up until when this happened, there hadn't been any signs that showed he had become radicalized. >> he did know syed. he did have discussions with him. i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? >>. my husband knew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely
they were not huge, heated discussions. if they were, my husband didn't say anything. but as far as i know, up until when this happened, there hadn't been any signs that sayed had become radicalized or anything like that. >> he did know syed. he did have discussions with him. i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? i. >> right. my husband knew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely disagreed on israel. >> do you believe that maybe
the internet, the concept of fine print has taken on a whole new meaning. now people are clicking "i agree" on pages and pams of legal obligations that they simply did not read. our culture is going to have to make a decision on how to deal with this. those agreements, in theory you've read them and they're enforceable. but the husband didn't even write this review and he's being dinged. he's not even someone who wrote the review and they're holding him to that contract term. which is in all likelihood unenforceable. >> in every case the defense is how do you know who was on the keys. plenty of people are in a household with one computer. how can you prove who is on the keys. here is the other thing that bugs me. if i don't like the way you did your legal analysis today, can i just fine you and turn it into a credit rating? it seems pretty one-sided.
>> bob: when my kids were in school they came home with everything and i got it. >> eric: aren't we healthier society when we contract flu, fight it off and build up antibodies. >> dana: but if you get the flu you're less productive. >> eric: i didn't say require you to take a flu shot. they can't inject you with it. >> dana: every mom i asked today said they were against requiring students and the kids from having to get the flu shot. >> kimberly: i didn't give it to ronan. he's six. and patty ann's husband didn't tell him to get it.
>> bob: when my kids were in school they came home with everything and i got it. >> eric: aren't we healthier society when we contract flu, fight it off and build up antibodies. >> dana: but if you get the flu you're less productive. >> eric: i didn't say require you to take a flu shot. they can't inject you with it. >> dana: every mom i asked today said they were against requiring students and the kids from having to get the flu shot. >> kimberly: i didn't give it to ronan. he's six. and patty ann's husband didn't tell him to get it.
what i'm looking at here. ensign invited this couple into the house to have a relationship with one of them. >> yes. >> seemingly -- >> seems like any other way of -- >> that's a pretty damn good theory. they have been together for a long time. and he kept -- he was confronted again and again -- >> and the husband didn't know that the other guy had eyes on his wife? >> willfully paying not attention. >> bitter -- >> this is not the middle ages here. i don't know the case. i'm too rough on this. i don't get it. it bothers me because i hate to think of people being so supines, he can make a buck. why can't you make a living without -- >> no one but he's got a meal ticket in senator ensign all the way through. >> okay. thank you. senator ensign told miss hampton on more than one occasion that he wanted to marry her. well, senator ensign told miss