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Nicky Campbell

you. when you see something like that in front of you and it is - you. when you see something like that in front of you and it is so - that in front of you and it is so visible — that in front of you and it is so visible it— that in front of you and it is so visible it gets you really bad, and if it doesn't you shouldn't be in business — if it doesn't you shouldn't be in business because if you haven't got a hard. _ business because if you haven't got a hard. then— business because if you haven't got a hard, then what is the point? what do you _ a hard, then what is the point? what do you make — a hard, then what is the point? what do you make of that, leah, from deb? -- hevent— do you make of that, leah, from deb? -- haven't got— do you make of that, leah, from deb? —— haven't got a heart. i�*ve do you make of that, leah, from deb? -- haven't got a heart.— -- haven't got a heart. i've been in supermarkets _ -- haven't got a heart. i've been in supermarkets before _ -- haven't got a heart. i've been in supermarkets before but _ -- haven't got a heart. i've been in supermarkets before but i - -- haven't got a heart. i've been in supermarkets before but i have - -- haven't got a heart. i've been in i supermarkets before but i have seen a parent crying because the child wants something they have to let them down gently and so mummy can't get that today. i've given somebody, i've given what i haven't had something myself and then gone without because you can't see children struggle because it is heartbreaking. we have had to borrow money for food but i'm heartbreaking. we have had to borrow money forfood but i'm happy heartbreaking. we have had to borrow money for food but i'm happy to heartbreaking. we have had to borrow money forfood but i'm happy to put money forfood but i'm happy to put money on my credit card to pay for food this month because i don't have any money of my own. my wage is all gone on my gas and electric. but i can't see my child go without. i have to put something on the table for her. , , ,,

Something , Haven-t , It , Point , We-haven-t , Front , Business , Deb-in-rushton , Leah-in-sheffield , It-doesn-t-you-shouldn , Doesn-t-you-shouldn , Hard

Nicky Campbell

office for national statistics. over half of adults say that they are buying cheaper food, half of adults say that they are buying cheaperfood, 53%. around one in four buying more tinned or a longer shelf life food, 26%, and around one in five people eating food its use by date. so what are you doing? and also, while i'm on it, and you will be on it in a minute, are the supermarkets playing fair? 08085 909693, text on 85058. get to us at bbc 5 live on social media is welcome on your radio, on the telly. what aboutjeremy hunt, the telly. what aboutjeremy hunt, the chancellor. he's been speaking today at here is what he said. well, this is a small headline fall but it disguises a large rise in food inflation which is causing pressure to families around the country as they see their cost of their weekly food shop go up. and it shows that there is no such thing as an automatic fall

I5n-t-food , People , Adults , Shelf-life-food , Half , Tinned , Office-for-national-statistics , Cheaperfood , 53 , Five , 26 , Four

Nicky Campbell

the last days of the soviet union, with people queueing just for some beans on toast. is with people queueing “ust for some beans on toasth beans on toast. is that a bit hyperbolic _ beans on toast. is that a bit hyperbolic or _ beans on toast. is that a bit hyperbolic or not? - beans on toast. is that a bit hyperbolic or not? if - beans on toast. is that a bit hyperbolic or not? if we - beans on toast. is that a bit hyperbolic or not? if we are beans on toast. is that a bit - hyperbolic or not? if we are hearing stories of reverends _ hyperbolic or not? if we are hearing stories of reverends running - hyperbolic or not? if we are hearing stories of reverends running food i stories of reverends running food banks. i was in a food bank a couple of months ago in a church of people who are doubling the amount they are having to spend on getting food for the food bank because of the prices they are seeing. when we are seeing inflation on budget items of 25% in a year, with all of the information we are seeing about energy prices, the people who are being hit hardest by this are those who have already cut back as much as possible. so to take an example of ate pork sausages from tesco or asda, pretty much the same price, they were 80p last year, these are pretty much one of the cheapest meals you can make, the

People , Beans , Ust , Toast , Hyperbolic , Toasth-beans-on-toast , Beans-on-toast , Conversations , Soviet-union , Food-bank , Running-food , Hearing-stories

Nicky Campbell

that is in the market is all poisoned _ that is in the market is all poisoned or— that is in the market is all poisoned or gmo's - that is in the market is alli poisoned or gmo's anyway that is in the market is all- poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a that is in the market is all— poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a bag of onion— poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a bag of onion costs — poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a bag of onion costs £28, _ poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a bag of onion costs £28, why— poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a bag of onion costs £28, why don't - poisoned or gmo's anyway so if a bag of onion costs £28, why don't they i of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a _ of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag — of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag of— of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag of seeds. _ of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag of seeds. i— of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag of seeds. i bought i of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag of seeds. i bought a i of onion costs £28, why don't they buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag of 42 _ buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag of 42 onions — buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag of 42 onions for _ buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag of 42 onions for a _ buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag of 42 onions for a pound. - buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag of 42 onions for a pound. why- buy a bag of seeds. i bought a bag i of 42 onions for a pound. why aren't they planting — of 42 onions for a pound. why aren't they planting at _ of 42 onions for a pound. why aren't they planting at home? _ of 42 onions for a pound. why aren't they planting at home? why- of 42 onions for a pound. why aren't they planting at home? why aren't . they planting at home? why aren't they planting at home? why aren't they teaching _ they planting at home? why aren't they teaching the _ they planting at home? why aren't they teaching the kids _ they planting at home? why aren't they teaching the kids how - they planting at home? why aren't they teaching the kids how to i they planting at home? why aren't they teaching the kids how to be i they teaching the kids how to be self—sufficient? _ they teaching the kids how to be self—sufficient? do _ they teaching the kids how to be self—sufficient? do you - they teaching the kids how to be self—sufficient? do you see i they teaching the kids how to bej self—sufficient? do you see what they teaching the kids how to be. self—sufficient? do you see what i mean? _ self—sufficient? do you see what i mean? it — self-sufficient? do you see what i mean? . . . . self-sufficient? do you see what i mean? . . , . ., . mean? it is representative of a strand of opinion _ mean? it is representative of a strand of opinion that - mean? it is representative of a strand of opinion that i i mean? it is representative of a strand of opinion that i see i mean? it is representative of a strand of opinion that i see all| mean? it is representative of a i strand of opinion that i see all the time, that there is no home economics, we don't teach kids how to cook, we need to be self—sufficient and all that stuff. it is a prevalent view. how would that start? how would we do it? how would that help people in the here and now? well, all the fruit and vegetables, there _ well, all the fruit and vegetables, there is— well, all the fruit and vegetables, there is herbs— well, all the fruit and vegetables, there is herbs you _ well, all the fruit and vegetables, there is herbs you can— well, all the fruit and vegetables, there is herbs you can grow- well, all the fruit and vegetables, there is herbs you can grow on i well, all the fruit and vegetables, i there is herbs you can grow on your windowsiil, — there is herbs you can grow on your windowsill, potatoes— there is herbs you can grow on your windowsill, potatoes you _ there is herbs you can grow on your windowsill, potatoes you can i there is herbs you can grow on your windowsill, potatoes you can put. there is herbs you can grow on your windowsill, potatoes you can put in| windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket _ windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket there _ windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket. there is— windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket. there is loads _ windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket. there is loads of- windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket. there is loads of ways i windowsill, potatoes you can put in a bucket. there is loads of ways of| a bucket. there is loads of ways of helping _ a bucket. there is loads of ways of helping yourself _ a bucket. there is loads of ways of helping yourself. you _ a bucket. there is loads of ways of helping yourself. you don't- a bucket. there is loads of ways of helping yourself. you don't need i helping yourself. you don't need tesco _ helping yourself. you don't need tesco you — helping yourself. you don't need tesco. you don't _ helping yourself. you don't need tesco. you don't need _ helping yourself. you don't need tesco. you don't need te5co- helping yourself. you don't need tesco. you don't need tesco or. helping yourself. you don't need i tesco. you don't need tesco or asda. you can— tesco. you don't need tesco or asda. you can do— tesco. you don't need tesco or asda. you can do these _ tesco. you don't need tesco or asda. you can do these things _ tesco. you don't need tesco or asda.

I5n-t-food , Haven-t , All-of-you , Kids , Onions , Bag , Why-don-t , Onion , Home , Market , Seeds , Planting

Nicky Campbell

diabetic, — getting his special food. i'm also diabetic, i've lost ten 5tone getting his special food. i'm also diabetic, i've lost ten stone in weight — diabetic, i've lost ten stone in weiuht. ~ ., diabetic, i've lost ten stone in weight-- the _ diabetic, i've lost ten stone in weight.- the shake - diabetic, i've lost ten stone in weight.- the shake diet | diabetic, i've lost ten stone in weight. wow. the 5hake diet and weight. wow. the shake diet and stuff but a _ weight. wow. the shake diet and stuff but a packet _ weight. wow. the shake diet and stuff but a packet of _ weight. r the 5hake diet and stuff but a packet of 5heik5, £30 a month, _ 5tuff but a packet of 5heik5, £30 a month, i_ stuff but a packet of 5heik5, £30 a month, i can't afford it any more. can't _ month, i can't afford it any more. can't afford — month, i can't afford it any more. can't afford it. the politicians don't — can't afford it. the politicians don't have a clue. they have their nice meais— don't have a clue. they have their nice meals in westminster —— 5hake5. it is nice meals in westminster —— 5hake5. it is a _ nice meals in westminster —— 5hake5. it is a struggle to get food. we are sitting _ it is a struggle to get food. we are sitting on— it is a struggle to get food. we are sitting on a — it is a struggle to get food. we are sitting on a ticking time here because _ sitting on a ticking time here because the food we can afford to put on _ because the food we can afford to put on the — because the food we can afford to put on the table is all proce55ed put on the table is all processed food _ put on the table is all processed food and — put on the table is all processed food and that is going to damage future _ food and that is going to damage future generations, i5n't food and that is going to damage future generations, isn't it? never mind _ future generations, isn't it? never mind talking about budget force5 future generations, isn't it? never mind talking about budget forces and things— mind talking about budget forces and things but— mind talking about budget forces and things but all the damage we are doing _ things but all the damage we are doing for— things but all the damage we are doing for the future and we will get the blame, diabetes and things, it is going _ the blame, diabetes and things, it is going to — the blame, diabetes and things, it is going to be a time bomb. let me aet a is going to be a time bomb. let me get a couple _ is going to be a time bomb. let me get a couple of _ is going to be a time bomb. let me get a couple of text _ is going to be a time bomb. let me get a couple of text points - is going to be a time bomb. let me get a couple of text points of - is going to be a time bomb. let me get a couple of text points of view. | get a couple of text points of view. i'd be interested in what you think of one of them and i will come to it in a minute. we have to reflect what everyone says fairly and squarely.

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Nicky Campbell

taken after 20 years, you said? both of them had — taken after 20 years, you said? both of them had 20 _ taken after 20 years, you said? both of them had 20 pubs _ taken after 20 years, you said? ifizf7ii'1 of them had 20 pubs for two taken after 20 years, you said? brit? of them had 20 pubs for two years, one step sister christine had a pub, the other one had a pub. both in cornwall. and i had to shut it up. and it was all to do with the covid in the price of beer and the price of food going up. just couldn't keep it going so they had to shut it all up. heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking, - up. heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking, how- up. heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking, how arei up. heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking, how are they now? both of them are claiming benefits now, which they never claimed in our lives, nicky. and they are getting £158 perfortnight, nicky. right? and they have got to pay bills out of that, and i canjust about and they have got to pay bills out of that, and i can just about afford to put food on the table. two stepsisters do not eat, nicky, they would ratherfeed stepsisters do not eat, nicky, they would rather feed their kids. they are £1 mothers, nicky. it is not right. you know? it is heartbreaking. it right. you know? it is heartbreaking.- right. you know? it is

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Nicky Campbell

in sales. but anyway, this is what he said. "all supermarkets challenging cost increases from suppliers where they couldn't tesco was confronting companies it believed it was increasing prices beyond what was necessary. we do try very hard to challenge price hikes, i think, and we have a team who can look at the composition of food costs of food and cost of commodities and work out whether or not these cost increases are legitimate." people will make up their own minds. that's what he said. and as i mentioned, we have simon in macclesfield and nina in launceston. welcome, both of you. simon, good morning. what is your contribution? i simon, good morning. what is your contribution?— contribution? i spent most of my career working — contribution? i spent most of my career working in _ contribution? i spent most of my career working in the _ contribution? i spent most of my career working in the food - career working in the food manufacturing industry as a sort of negotiator. — manufacturing industry as a sort of negotiator, negotiating trading terms — negotiator, negotiating trading term5 between food manufacturers and supermarkets. and quite honestly, 5upermarket5. and quite honestly, whatjohn— 5upermarket5. and quite honestly, what john allan 5aid

Prices , Supermarkets , Profits , Companies , Cost-increases , Rise , Half , Suppliers , They-couldn-t-tesco , Sales , I5n-t-food , People

Nicky Campbell

hour before the doors open because they are desperate. and it's not just food that people are needing, it is the fuel vouchers. people can't afford to put their washer on as much as they used to. there is no such thing as dishwashers any more. if people did have a dishwasher they are using them. people are using fairy liquid instead of shampoo. it'sjust fairy liquid instead of shampoo. it's just cutting corners completely. we have some very generous people around the area that help us out to give food. one of them is a church in sandsend who have vowed to give us laundry tablets free of charge. so they are now collecting laundry tablets in the area and bringing them all to us. they have given us thousands of laundry tablets because they found out people were washing their clothes with fairy liquid. so fairy

People , Food , Doors , Queue , Fuel-vouchers , Washer , Thing , More , Fairy-liquid , Dishwashers , Dishwasher , I5n-t-food

Nicky Campbell

back basically to support people as a small business, and, you know, we are seeing inflation, we are seeing the raw materials of foodstuffs, an increase in price, yet at the same time we are seeing companies like tesco seeing profits of £2.5 billion. it would be amazing, a 6% fall, by the way. it would be amazing if deb had had a 6% fall from the profits previous year from a fish barb. but she is giving back to the community that has supported herfor to the community that has supported her for years and years, to the community that has supported herfor years and years, and supermarkets, they need to step up and do the same thing because we appreciate that the raw costs have gone up but we need to appreciate that there are profits being made, there are things supermarkets could do to make things easier to get the products they are selling in some places into the communities that need them most, and just to make it easierfor need them most, and just to make it easier for people to put some healthy food on the table so we are not having conversations like it is

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Nicky Campbell

liquid is very... and there are other brands, but any cheap washing—up liquid is very versatile for the people who can't afford the other items. for the people who can't afford the other items-— other items. wow. it will be interesting _ other items. wow. it will be interesting to _ other items. wow. it will be interesting to hear- other items. wow. it will be interesting to hear harry, i other items. wow. it will be - interesting to hear harry, consumer expert from which?, an assignment in macclesfield. good morning, simon, how are you doing? goad macclesfield. good morning, simon, how are you doing?— how are you doing? good morning, thank you- — how are you doing? good morning, thank you- and _ how are you doing? good morning, thank you. and nina _ how are you doing? good morning, thank you. and nina in _ how are you doing? good morning, thank you. and nina in launceston| thank you. and nina in launceston cominu thank you. and nina in launceston coming on — thank you. and nina in launceston coming on shortly, _ thank you. and nina in launceston coming on shortly, people - thank you. and nina in launceston coming on shortly, people are - thank you. and nina in launceston . coming on shortly, people are coming on wanting to talk about this, unsurprisingly. harry, what is going on? what is happening? when is it going to get any better and why has it got so bad? and are the supermarkets, you will know, other supermarkets, you will know, other supermarkets playing fair on all of this? ~ , .. �* supermarkets playing fair on all of this? ~ , �* , ., this? well, i “ust can't listen to --eole this? well, i “ust can't listen to people like — this? well, ijust can't listen to people like deb _ this? well, ijust can't listen to people like deb who _ this? well, ijust can't listen to people like deb who are - this? well, ijust can't listen to people like deb who are not. this? well, ijust can't listen tol people like deb who are notjust struggling in their own lives to make ends meet and put food on the table, talking about that enough, but taking the clothes from her own

People , Items , Fairy-liquid , Clothes , Washing-up-liquid , Brands , Morning , I-simon , Consumer-expert , Which- , Launceston , Goad-macclesfield