meet the woman who started it all. lucas is the first baby with down syndrome to represent gerber. this picture courtesy of cook s we agree. saying that s really . i m heading to the white house where see you later this afternoon. appreciate you joining us for this packed hour. tuing it over to ali velshi and s ruhle. who doesn t love a gerber baby? love that baby lucas. sweet pea. morning, everyone. i m ali velshi. i m stephanie ruhle. it s wednesday, june 6th. mexico firing the latest shot in the escalating trade war between the united states and the allies. how is this goingo play when the president sits down with the leaders of those countries on friday? how many people are in on forming this tariff policy and who is in charge? that s a great question. in fact, what you see right now is a big split inside the guns. we begin with the latest escalating trade war between the united states and the top trading partners including some of the closest allies and this one comes from mexico. the mexican president signed an order immediately imposing 15 to 25% tariffs on u.s. steel. also a 25% tariff on u.s. cheese and bourbon. plus a 20% tariff on american agricultural productncluding po potatoes, apples and cranberries. u.s. pork farmers alone could use $100 million a year. that s according to an estimate by the iowa farm bureau. this is after the trump administration eliminated tariff exemptions for our partners, mexico, canada, and the european unn. it also imposed a 25 % tariff on steel imports and 10% tariff on aluminum imports effective june 1st. with all this, the world bank has issued a warning that the escalating trade tensions between the united states and the major trading allies could have, quote, severe consequences for the trade and growth that would be equivalent to the 2008 financial crisis. nbc s von joins us from des moines, iowa where the u.s. pork industry is holding the annual expo right now. stephanie and alley, reminder. 10% of iowa pork alone goes to mexico. so we are he in des moines and the president is at the summit. this is the world s pork expo not only from around the country but 40 countries from around the world. there are individuals here. i want to bring in christy. she s a family farmer. you have 460 employees you re about two hours north of here and have a full operation. about 10,000 people here over the course of the weekend coming through. and you not only grill up the food but you also produce it and go through it. what do we see here? today we have whole pig and brats. pork loin and our baby bac ribs. family is involved? family is involved in the business. i am a fourth generation partf pork agriculture. my daughters are business. myfather, my sister, brother-in-law, and my husband. so we are not just a pork production family. we also employ a lot of other people s families. reporter: almost 500. that s correct. reporter: and stephanie and allie, there s a lot of people who are associated with the business as well. pork is foundational to the iowa economy. when you see the trade negotiations underway, the tariff that s put, what s your concern? well, the one thing is that if it s for the long term, that could be devastating for the industry, but wenow a lot of things because pork is a very flexible agriculture, some of these things are short-term. we feel like we re pawns in the chess game of the trade wars, but r the short time the american producers can have cheaper bacon and ribs for the summer. so in the 80s when ery wanted leaner pork, and all the pork fattier and bacony, we had to change the genetics. we had to make that fit the consumer s desires. so right now a lot of people are going for all naturalpork, antibiotic free, organic pork. we ve seen that on the american side as well where our con have become a more refined palate. how e ist f y adjust? it s not easy, but pork producers work hard, so they ll find a way to make it happen. a lot of people have been doing this for so many years. this is just one more bump in the world in the world market. that s great. that s about as an american response as you get. they re facing uncertainty. they re worried about it and coming up with innovation. that s remarkable. john, i shou tr you before, but when i saw von and the smokers behind him, i was dazed in a bacon bo nonza. sorry about that. made me hungry too. the eu announced it s going to be imposing retaliatory tariffs on u.s. steel and aluminum. canada also imposing tariffs starting july 1st can tariffs. that includes a 25 % tariff on steel and 10% tariffs on aluminum. you have yogurt, jam, whiskey. walk us through how this is going to play out. the fact we re hearing this could take us back tth 2008 nanciacrisis level. how bad can this get? well, i d be surprised if it got to that level, because it usually when president trump meets formidable resistance, he backs off. so it is possible that given all the alarms that are being sounded by republican members of congress from agricultural states, for the business round table yesterday, national association of business economists yesterday downgraded in their survey, their forecast for growth in 2018 from the previous survey, this trade overhang is bad for the economy. republicans need a good economy to succeed in midterm election one possibility is president trump in the face of all this makes a lot of noise, rattles a lot of kangs and steps back. but if he doesn t do that, we re rheaded for trouble with allies at a time when we re not even addressing in the trade discussions that we re talking about right now, are the indications that we have. we re not even addressing the big threat from china over theft of intellectual property. we re fighting our allies at a time when we need them to confront china. there are people with legitimate concerns about the trade deals and how they ve affected theirndustrieand jobs. and even president trump has campaigned saying he s going to do something and he s going out to do something about it. it is not business as usual he goes to the g summit in canada on friday where he s meeting with leaders of canada and the eu nations. at what point does this sort of bring a summit like this to a halt because everyone is angry at the u.s. or do they have business to continue to do while acknowledging the complaint on behalf of many american workers thew trade arrangements? there s some business they can do. there s a lot of routine business that goes on between finance and trade ministries of these various countries. but the united states, make no mistake, is becoming isolated. it is being condemned by its allies for the actions that king. and one of the things we ve learned about the world over the last couple of decades is that you need allies to get something done. the world is too globally connected. you can t america can t be the world s policeman, but it can t vindicate it s own interests by itself. so that s a difficult situation. the present is now talking about trying to break up nafta into separate categories with mexico and canada. that is going to be a nonstarter. ultimately, i think he s going to be faced with a decision of either pulling out of the existing nafta or getting nothing done at all. it is worth noting, though, that in those various industrialized countries that comprise the g7 or g-20, there are constitntil ns. almost everybody in the world thinks they got an unfair trade deal from someone else. i m sure there are canadians and we know there are britons because that s why they voted for brexit who feel we don t have trade deals with everybody else. that s why you have big multilateral trade deals. everybody has skin in the game. er has got to make compromises. so can a mexico were part of the transpacific partnership which renegotiated nafta. the president backed out, again, isolatinited stes on the world stage. thank you, john, and thank you to von in iowa. president trump reportedly obsessed with his ability to grant pardons, and we can see another one come any time now whether he s obsessed or not. that could be a woman who is happy he s obsessed. one of them would be that great grandmoer whom reality star kim kardashian is fighting for. we ll speak to her daughter coming up. george woke up in pain. i missed that. both of my parents haved away. i was not able to be by either of their sides and their f days. that s an ache i had that never goes away. alice s daughter joins us w. we have confirmed from inside the white house that the pahas been prepared on yourmom. the president has not signed it, but it s ready for his signature. has the white house reached out to you, and how do you feel about all of this? no, the white house hasn t reached o me. s surreal. i m just finding out now on live tv that the paperwork has been prepared. i mean, this is something that my family and i, we pray for for years. it s just it s just surreal. it s amazing. wow. did you think this would happen? last week it was obviously major for you and your family when kim kardashian west went to see the president. the next day the president didn t make an announcement. did you start to lose hope? no-ev let myself lose hope, because that s worse than anything. i don t think i could take not having anyhope. tentive, it s a reserved hope. we ve been through so many ups and dnsouout the years with different appeals and things. so it was we re hopeful, but it s a reserved hope. you know? until she walks out that door of th prison. she said what she said and that she was part of a drug conspiracy. she admits to what she did. you started a petition that you write since being incarcerated she s been a model prisoner who mentors women. tell us abo w she is. she s become an ordained minister. that s a long sentence for a nonviolent drug offense. for americans saying why are we committing people with nonviolent offenses, why are we doing this? she has tried the best she cano make a negative situation into a positive situation, as much as it can be. she really dedicated herself into helping owomen, and if she s plans on working with women who are incarcerated to help prevent recidivism. i think she d do a lot more good outside of that prison than she is even inside a prison, even though she s doing a lot of good in there. she s just taking the bull by the horns and is really trying to be a positive person as she can be. i mean, she made mistakes, but she s human, and she s worthy of being pardoned. she s worthy of a second chance. how did kim kardashian west get involved in your campaign, and after she met with the president, did s with you what he told her about your mom s case? yes. she got involved with the case. she saw the mike video and decided to reach out to my mom through her attorney. but the family, we didn t know who it was at first. shawn just told us i a female celebrity, a wealthy female celebrity who wanto advocate for he i had no idea. no idea it was kim be oprah. kardashian. when we found out, it was definitely a pleasant surprise. she has really been an advocate for my mom in a major way. she s really done a lot, and where she could have saw the video and said that s a shame and gone on with her life i wasn t privy of the meeting. wasn t there. all i heard was it was a po meeting, but i don t know exactly what was discussed. the exact language. we ll keep an eye on the story closely. we hope for the best for you and your family and mother. thank you so much. i m thanks. good luck to you. she has twins at home that haven t met her mom that will be amazing if they can. yes. also today rod blagojevich asked the president to commute the remainder of his 14 -year sentence. he was convicted on 2011 on multiple felony corruption charges. there s something else you prably didn t know about the privacy of your facebook acunt. i know nothing about that. all i know is i know nothing and everybody has amy informaon. enharing er infor wleast four chinese companies, including one flagged by u.s. intelligence as a security company. wasn t zuckerberg testifying before congress on this? did this come out? this is strange. first a new potential conflict for scoot pruitt. he s now accused of using a government aide to help score his wife a chick-fil-a franchise. pruitt never spoke to the ceo of than told the washington post mrs. pruitt didn t complete the frchise application. this is a weird story. this is the definition of swamp. no kidding. we ll be right back. welcome to holiday inn! thank you! wait, i have something for you! every stay is a special stay at holiday inn. save up to 15% when you book early at hollidayinn.com save up to 15% when you book early whent onbones, e you on theight path? we have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture, so with our doctors we chose prolia® to help make our bones stronger. only prolia® helps strengthen bones by stopping cells that damage them with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva®. serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip or tongue swelling, rash, itching orivavhappened. tell your doctor about dental problems, as severe jaw bone problems may happen or new or unusual pain in your hip, groin, or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have occurred. speak to your doctor before stopping prolia®, as spine and other bone fractures have occurred. prolia® can cause serious side effects, like low blood calcium; serious infections, which could need hospitalization; skin problems; and severe bone, joint, or muscle pain. if your bones aren t getting stronger isn t it time for a new prolia.ection?y wait? 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it matters in two if your d is going to the phone, it means your data could connect with other apps on the phone. th problem i why spreading the data through millions ofes around the world, through these partnerships and not through their own app, it puts your data at risk and creates vulnerability. this is not the app on your phone that says facebook. this is a streamf data from facebook central that goes to device makers and devices around the world. ook users ohese serve people devices. but it also putss data beyond the control of facebook. all right. facebook is banned in china. so this sort of begs the question why are chinese companies being given access to facebook data? and what do the want it for? we lo the main purpose of these partnerships on t surface, ali, is tha people using thes phone and the re eager to get access to their facebook information. if nicko see his facebook account on the phone, and the phone can t support it for whatever reason, the phone can my information from my account, but also the information of all my friends and some of their frie so you quickly get up to huge amounts of information flowing onto these phones. and the question for the company is if the phones for these are getting thedata, are s actors in china getting the information? okay. walk me through this. atme if any, could facebook face for doing this? again, they have very little regulation. aside from potential lawsuits in the u.s., there s a possibility of severe problems in europe where the rules are tighter. even here in the u.s., as y nodd into a consent decree that said you can t share the information of the ers friends without asking the friends first. you got to stop doing that. and facebook has said , look, when you agree to share information with your friend on to share it with that friend on andevice they use. and that s where experts we spoke to said t not what the ftc was expecting and it defies what consumers were expecting. the ftc would fine them as well. i have to go back over the testimony from mark zuckerberg at congress as to whether he was asked any of these specific questions and didn t give the proper answer, because once again, i sort of thought that once mark zuckerberg testified at facebook, we d be done with the new revelatio bad things that facebook has th your data, but it doesn t end. it s kind of fascinating. it s like ok has found people to give our data to who i didn t know were looking for it. and they haven t owned up to it. it s shocking they didn t describe it in the testimony. zuckerberg said you control all your information and you control it and have privacy. and never mentioned these partnerships. but part of the reason is that facebook s whole idea here is that these partnerships are actually part of facebook. so they re slight of hand in my opinion is to say tha it s not important, and these aren t outside companies if facebook information is going to a phone sker is part of facebook. and so from facebook s perspective, there wasn t any breach. what is facebook saying? give us the goods on when you go back and forth with facebook pr on this, and this clearly at best is slight of hand tactics. what are they really saying to you? what facebook is saying is our entire frame for this is wrong. what they re saying is look, there s no problem here. it s no big deal. so these companies, apple, samsung, blackberry, if they re carrying this data to users who want to use facebook, it s a part of facebook. it s all facebook. there s no third party involved and no breach of the ftc consent decree, but if you look under the hood, stephanie, if you look at how it actually works, facebook s own system, its platform, treats these phones like apps, and apps are third parties. it s actually a problem between how they describe it publicly and how it works. nick, good to talk to you as always. what a story. the chinese telecom giant zte is being rescued by the united stat why? well, what happened to the concerns about zte and our national security? we ll discuss that on the other side. why? 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they seem to have a deal in principle. whether anything has been signed is the question. in terms of the penalty that thay, that includes additial purases wou make of u.s. goods, and we want the united states wants contracts signed. not just promises. that s the context around th isn t j a deal with the commerce departmtnd zte. this has larger implications about trade between china and the united es. this is really important. at its face, you could say this is absurd. the united states government, the commerce department were going after zte. if the united states wants china to play ball on trade, do they need to do something to appease the zte situation? it looks le they do. they announced a lot of changes as they try to bring the economy into a more integrated trading system. this is caught up between t united states and china. and next week is the singapore summit. they need the chinese help with north korea. that s playing in to try to reach a deal to get the chinese to help with the issues. this is what regular folk think is swampy, the deals made. we ve made it clear zte did things that are regarded as bad and gone. chinese asked the united states to do this. what the chinese offer in return? what is america getting for doing this? it s the american worker, supposededly, we re doing this for. that s the real question. the chinese be ordering more american made goods because they need more. their economy is expanding. the question is what do they do in addition to that to get the deal done? we have reported that they re going to buy another $25 billion worth of oil and coal and some agricultural products. that s not very much. it s nowhere near the 200 billion donald trump says he wants. the question is is it enough and will they follow through? they announced earlier $70 billion in additional purchases and there were no contracts signed? so china agreed to i m saying, if we say zte is back in business. we re imposing smaller fines. change your board, we re putting that in motion. what china as promised thus far, you re saying they haven t signed contracts and haven t done? they are buying things, but the direct connection isn t there, and there s no signed deal that says in exchange for this, we will do this. they are just separately saying by theway, we re to buyeoil. donald trump is on saysed is so obsessed with the trade deficit. china is promising to reduce it a little. last year they came to the united states and agreed to buy more liquid natural gas. they need it, and now the trump administration is including that in the chinese is buying more because of the pressure, but that deal was already agreed to. michael, thank you for joining us. all right. a historic moment on the job hunt. for the first time ever, there are more job in the united states than people out of work. how that can actually hurt the economy and take money out of your wallet. i just want to know how people can get higher wages. can you actually love wearing powerful sunscreen? 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what does it pay? we don t just need people to survive. we need them to thrive. mla we re moving into this part of the conversation. me too. after the mass shooling at parkland high school, the government set up a commission on school safety. education secretary betsy devos says it is not examining the role guns play in school violence. huh? that is like trying to prevent a heart attack while your cholesterol level is at 300. and, in fact, it s like trying to prevent a heart attack and never checking your cholesterol. we ll talk about that when we come back. that s what s happening here. the federal commission on school safety will not study the impact on guns on school safety. the commission was formed after the parkland shooting where 17 people were killed. here is what betsy devos told a senate committee. the role of firearms it relates to firearms in our school. that s not part of the charge per se. you re studying gun violence but not considering the role of guns. we re studying school safety and how to ensure our students are safe as well. wow. in case there s any question about whether guns play a role in school violence, let s take a quick look at number. this year there s been 17 school shootings. that s the highestumber during any year in recent history. more students have bee killed at school this year than those killed while deployed in the united states military according to the washington post. just look at last month. in four separate school shootings in may, ten students were killed. 16 others injured. if you look back, nearly 20 years since columbine in 1999, 141 students and educators were killed in their classroo another 287 have been injured. beyond the dead and wounded, what about the kids forced to witness their classmates being murdered o cower behind a locked door or behind a desk to avoid gunfire. more than 215,000 students have experienced gun violence at their school since columbine. these fro yearlong investigation by the washington post. the federal government does not track school shootings. why not? let s bring in the president of american fed ration of teachers. the second largest teacher s unn in country. do your teachers have a role in this examination. we can t figure out why if the federal government is looking into school safety, there s more people getting killed byuns in scol g by anything else in school. why is this not the top of the list, yet alone not on the list? nothing any longer surprises me about what betsy devos does. it s just it s more than ridiculous. it says to people in america that the federal government doesn t work because it is the height of hypocrisy to pretend you re doing something but then actually not do it. stephanie just said the statistics that i would have said but let s put it this way. other countries have figured this out and betsy devos is not only not letting guns be an issue in commission that was set up after the murder of children in schools by guns but she s also not going t the hearing today where you have people like abby clemons who survived the 2012 sandy hook shooting testifying. i would say to betsy is this, maybe she read the new york times today, at least she ll get some indication of what happened, the terror that happened in parkland. if you re so intent ongoing out of town and out of the cnt today to study what switzerland is doing in terms of career tech ed, why don t you study what australia and great britain are doing in terms of gun safety in schools. it s just hypocrite cal and frankly the problem is given this administration, the only thing we can do is actually not have this administration. they don t want to solve it. i understand that s your position but this is our current administration. we ve got work with who the president is. i know you wrote a letter to president trump back in february. he never him to meet with you to discuss school safety. what happened? never answered. there are issues, mental health issues wrap around services ng that we deal the issues. the red flag laws where if law enforcement or families or what governor cuomo extendt to teachers feel like a child is a clear and present danger and could be, this goes to it. there are other things question do. the problem is this. it s this is increasing right now. kids in santa believe it s a matter of when, not whether. we ll have to work with governors. we ll have to work with legislatures. we will keep trying to get them to listen but if they don t show up at their ownhearings, the only thing one can do is kind of to shame them and to make what they are doing or not doing transparent. it was definitely shocking a hear a student say we expected it. this was just matter of when. good to talk to you as always. you re welcome. thank you for watching this hour of velshi & ruhle.ruhle. i ll see you tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. i ll see you tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. time for our friend andrea mitchell. right now, missing melania. the president attacks the media. the media reports questioning the first lady s 26th day public
president, had been marginalized, and would likely leave after his year anniversary at the white house. that anniversary came and went yesterday and was accompanied by a tweet showing a beaming kelly and president trump with the caption congratulations to general john kelly. today we celebrate his first full year as white house chief of staff. today, white house officials told fox news that the president asked kelly to stay on through 2020, the end of his first term, and that kelly accepted very many of the previous rumors about kelly had come from within the white house and his changes elsewhere in the administration. with general kelly at his side, president trump is going to war with the powerful koch brothers, who are waging a campaign against the present strategy of using tariffs to leverage new trade deals. because of new tariffs, our farmers livelihoods are at risk. carmakers, factory workers and macs you don t like manufacturers. farmers want trade, not aid. tell the administration and congress, open market and end tariffs. president trump took a blow torch to them, tweeting they have become a total joke in real republican circles, that he has beaten them at every turn and that they are two nice guys with bad ideas. and it s not just tariffs. the network recently announced its willing to bet democrats over republicans if the democrats policies more closely align with the coke agenda. a spokesman saying we support policies that help all people improve their lives. we look forward to working with anyone to do so. on monday the network announced it would not support republican kevin kramer, who is locked in a tight race with north dakota democrat senator heidi heitkamp. it was very disappointing to see yesterday that they are not going to support kevin kramer. heidi heitkamp voted against the tax cut. she has not been a supporter of the policies the president has put forward. as the feud rages, support for the president from an unexpected corner. jpmorgan ceo jamie dimon, a former close ally of barack obama praising the president s economic policies. he has done things which accelerated growth. we needed competitive taxes and the way the american public should drink it though might think about for 20 years we have been increasingly uncompetitive. tonight at a campaign rally in tampa, president trump will put his economic policies on the line. he s making an appearance on behalf of congressman ron desantis, who is vying to become the next governor of florida. bret: see that live right here on fox. roberts, thanks. the trump administration is studying the idea of what would amount by reducing the taxes levied on capital gains. administration officials have said no decision has been made yet on whether to proceed. they say treasury secretary steven mnuchin prefers deferring to congress, but he does have his department studying the economic impact of such a change and the legality of proceeding without congressional approval. democrats are denouncing this idea. house minority leader nancy pelosi says the plan exposes the true priorities of the g.o.p. tax scam. facebook says it has uncovered new efforts to metal in u.s. politics on its platforms, and it says those efforts may be linked to russia. facebook officials have artie briefed members of congress. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel has details tonight from capitol hill. 14 weeks from election day facebook announced it has taken down accounts engaged in a sophisticated political influence campaign. earlier this morning we removed 32 pages and accounts from facebook and instagram because they were involved in coordinated inauthentic behavior. at this stage the social media giant isn t prepared to blame russia at least in public in part because the account holders try harder to hide their identities than russian-based A weeknight look at the news, featuring interviews, analysis and panel discussions hosted by Bret Baier. chairman of the senate judiciary committee. he responded saying this. i will not put the american taxpayers on the hook for senate democrats fishing expedition. bret: so what s the latest on all this? grassley stand up because those democrats are asking for basically every document that passed through brett kavanaugh when he was the staff secretary for president george w. bush. that s a massive gatekeeper role and that would be a huge amount of documentation. chuck schumer, the senate democratic leader has appealed to former president bush. he s appealed to the national archivist and now grassley feels like he s trying to embarrass him so what s significant here is to comoderate republican senators, susan collins and lisa murkowski have sided with chairman grassley in this battle. that is significant because of those moderates had gone with schumer, that could really drag out this whole confirmation process. bret: going forward october . like emmanuel live on the hill, thanks. the dow gained 108 today. the s&p 500 finished ahead 42, the nasdaq was up 18. the first day, the first trial the first day of the first trial has just ended for one of canada trumps top advisors. his former campaign chair. a jury was seated today in the case of paul manafort, the first case brought to trial by special counsel robert mueller. the jurors will not hear anything about a low alleged rn collusion or special counsel headlines. peter doocy is outside the federal courthouse in virginia tonight to tell us what this case is about. good evening, peter. good evening, brad the court session just ended for today but a little bit earlier this afternoon while prosecutors working for robert mueller tried to nail paul manafort for financial crimes by outlining his lavish lifestyle, the judge interrupted and told the mueller team it s not against the law to have a lot of money, so the burden of proof on the special counsel is proving to be heavy. lawyers for the man who was with the trump campaign for just five months are fighting to keep them out of federal prison for 305 euros. paul manafort is charged with falsifying income taxes, and committing bank fraud, type $260 million the special counsel alleges he was paid as a consultant to ukrainian politicians and then hid from the irs. the chances of paul manafort trying to reach some kind of deal has passed us. interrupted by lunch and a list of witnesses that to testify against manafort, including rick gates and former bernie sanders strategist tad devine has been presented. the providing judge, ts ellis is the same one who challenged the special counsel s focus on financial chargers for manafort back in may saying that we don t really care about mr. manafort, you really care about what information needs to convince the jury to have the same kind of sympathy as the president because his fate is controlled by six men and six women from virginia. i don t think you go into this thinking even if i get convicted i still may get a pardon. i think that s a big risk. late this afternoon, the mueller team called their first witness. it was the former bernie sanders strategist and colleague of paul manafort, tad devine, who was actually pretty complementary of manafort, but his testimony served to establish manafort s deep business ties in ukraine. somebody whose name was never mentioned by that witness or the mueller team or the defense team, donald trump. bret: peter doocy outside the courthouse. thanks. now to news overseas. iranian officials say if president trump wants to talk, the u.s. must rejoin the iran nuclear deal he left last spring. that terse response comes after the president said he would negotiate with anybody. correspondent rich edson has more reactions on it. president trump says he would meet with iranian president who saw him run honey. iran says the president should forget it. foreign minister tweeted the two countries have already spoken. negotiating a nuclear agreement and threats, sanctions and p.r. stunts won t work. try respect for iranians and for international commitments. president trump says his administration is implementing an aggressive stance towards iran. still the president says he s prepared to talk. no preconditions. they want to meet, i will meet. anytime they want. his secretary of state mike pompeo then appeared to outline conditions. the iranians demonstrate a commitment to make fundamental changes in how they treat their own people, can agree that it s worthwhile to enter a nuclear agreement that actually prevents proliferation, than the president said he s prepared to sit down and have a conversation with them. the state department says the president has offered to meet without conditions stands. the president and the secretary have both said that. the trump administration will begin imposing additional sanctions in iran. restrictions the united states once lifted as part of the iran nuclear agreement. china, russia, britain, france and germany are trying to salvage the agreement without the u.s. the threat of additional u.s. sanctions has already forced european businesses to scrap investments in iran. iran s foreign minister is pressuring the europeans to ignore potential u.s. sanctions penalties and invest in iran anyway. europeans should decide whether their businessmen, banks and government or to pursue european interests or american interests, or in particular trump s interest. while the u.s. maintains economic pressure, the administration continues its assault on iran s leadership. they seem more concerned with riches than religion. last week secretary pompeii called the leaders hypocritical official told fox. the south korean government is closely watching north korean movement and closely working with the united states. this comes after last week s news that the north continues to produce material for nuclear bombs. after last month commitment to work towards denuclearization by north korean north korean leader kim jong un at the summit with the president trump. experts say he didn t promise to halt nuclear activity now. they re basically staying true to what kim has been saying, which is that he s going to start mass producing material but also missiles. the still the talking continues. today the dmz generals from north and south korea met again to work on regional issues that might lead to bigger things. i believe processing inter-korean issues is a meaningful initial step to ease military tensions. the north has made concessions, the blowing up of a nuclear test site, the dismantling of a missile test facility and the remains of what is believed to be 55 u.s. service members missing since the korean war. said to be repatriated back to hawaii tomorrow. we told chairman kim if we can denuclearize your country there is a brighter future for the north korean people. chairman kim might want more. i think from north korea s perspective they have done a lot and i suspect that they are building some momentum for asking the u.s. for concessions. those concessions to north korea could mean an easing of sanctions or the signing of a peace treaty, both of which the u.s. is not yet ready to do. no one said this is going to be easy. bret: greg palkot, thank you. turkey s state run media says a court has rejected an american pastor s appeal for his release from house arrest and refused to lift his travel ban. the court ruled there was no change in the strong criminal suspicion against pastor andrew brunson. he faces up to 35 years in prison in turkey if convicted of terror and espionage. president donald trump is threatening sanctions against turkey over this case. turkey insists it will not give in. up next we have some breaking news we are following. we will bring you right after the break, the latest on the massive and deadly wildfires burning through much of california. first, here s what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 17 in des moines, where officials say they still do not know what happened to a 20-year-old iowa college student who vanished nearly two weeks ago. molly tibbetts disappeared near brooklyn iowa, one of the chief investigators says they are chasing every possible lead. fox 29 in san antonio, texas, with the safe return of a shark stolen from the city s aquarium. police say they have confessions from two men involved in snatching the 2-3-foot long gray horn chart domestic shark. police tracked only get getaway pickup truck last night. and this is a live look at philadelphia former affiliate fox 29. the big story there to make the first member of a penn state university fraternity to plead guilty in connection with the hazing death of a pledge last year is sentenced to three months house arrest. ryan burke pleaded guilty to four counts of hazing and five alcohol violations. tim piazza died after a night of heavy drinking and a series of falls that left him with a fractured skull and severe abdominal injuries. other defendants face trial in february. that s tonight s live look outside the beltway from special report. we will be right back. let your perfect drive come together at the lincoln summer invitation sales event. get 0% apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus $1,000 bonus cash. and it s also a story mail aabout people and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you to speak with dozens of actually customers of the aarp auto insurance program from the hartford. - my cars do make me proud, so when the accident did happen, time stopped. but i was able to use my choice of body shop. they couldn t have really done anything any better. - [announcer] join the millions of customers 50 and over who trust the hartford. - [woman] call the hartford at to get a non-obligation quote or go to we are getting some good news from the governor of durango state in northern mexico and that is confirmation from him that they believe at this point there are no deaths as a result of this plane crash. this was mexico flight 20 4:30 4:30 took off from durango in the north of mexico headed for mexico city. took off at just after 3:00 p.m. local time there. that s 4:00 p.m. eastern and apparently according to the transport department fell upon takeoff. we have seen photos on twitter of the plane lying on its belly, but relatively intact. although there was smoke billowing from it and emergency services on the ground dealing with what appeared to be a relatively large fire in the pictures we have seen. also we have seen photographs of some of the full crew that were on board with 97 passengers walking away from the wreckage, another sign that this accident was perhaps not as bad as eck first feared. so the breaking news as we understand it from the governor of the northern state of durango, no deaths, but an accident involving aeromexico 20 4:30 one en route from durango to mexico city, 97 passengers on board, four crew. there are some injuries but as we understand it at the moment, no deaths in this crash in northern mexico tonight. bret: jonathan hunt live in l.a. we will keep monitoring that. thank you. meantime, a massive blaze in northern california has now destroyed almost 900 homes and torched more than 170 square miles. it is believed to be one of the most destructive fires in california state history. correspondent jeff paul is live again tonight in redding, california, . there is no end in sight. it s just been devastating, really. it s so hard. fires burning in california continue scorching acre by acre, leveling homes by the hundred bearing i lost it all. every bit of it. i m sorry. there are now at least 15 major wild bikers burning across the golden state. a car fire burning in redding which claimed the lives of at least six people, now considered the seventh most devastating fire in state history, destroying close to 1,000 homes. i used to fight fires back in the 70s in 80s and i ve never seen anything like this. the most active the complex fires. a pair of fires burning north of san francisco which doubled in size overnight and is now threatening thousands of homes. and just to give you an idea of how indiscriminately these fires are burning, two houses behind me here in redding, they look fine, the car is okay, the grass barely grain but then you walk a few feet just across the street and you have the opposite seen. a car burned down to its metal, the home destroyed, the grass in the front yard blackened by all the smoke and fire and firefighters say that s what makes these fires so hard to fight. they don t know where they are going to go next. this is once in 100 years, it just seems like each year it gets a little worse and worse. firefighters at the front lines are feeling at working around the clock, their aggressive efforts are paying off. if containment levels are increasing, giving families hope for tomorrow. everything is still here. i m optimistic about that. the stories of strength that we are hearing about in these communities are incredible. one local hospital telling us that more than 40 employees have lost their homes, but they are still showing up to work to help others despite losing everything. bret: live in redding, jeff, thanks. up next, should the government allow you to access directions about how to 3d print your own gun? some breaking news on this story tonight. keep it here. ight need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. save $200 on this dell laptop ito take care of anyct messy situations.. and put irritation in its place. and if i can get comfortable keeping this tookus safe and protected. you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. bret: this is another fox news alert. a federal judge moments ago issuing a temporary restraining order staffing the release of downloadable lubricants for 3d printed guns. earlier today president trump tweeted that he is consulting with the nra on this controvers controversy. correspondent anita vogel tells us to make several states are actually suing the trump administration to block this release. for god sakes, when it comes to something as basic as public safety, our state department saying this is a giveaway for terrorists. fear and outrage from the washington state attorney general as he filed suit against the state department on behalf of nearly a dozen states over the government s decision to allow a texas company to publish files detailing how to build a gun with something as simple as a 3d printer. critics say these ghost guns will be made of plastic with no serial numbers and will be practically invisible. these firearms will be undetectable. they will pass through metal detectors without a blip, a buzz, or a bell that is going off. these ghost guns aren t the new wave of american gun violence. because the state department is charged with regulating the sale of firearms outside of the u.s., it was the agency which blocked texas company defense disrupted after it briefly published the gun blueprints in 2013. the company then sued the state department, the owner cody wilson claiming his free-speech rights were being violated. the government does not have the power to tell people they can post information on the internet. that s a violation of free speech. also, state law is trumped by federal law. just last month the state department settled that student saying certain firearms and related items are already widely available for sale. the license to both sleeves online. if this is an unconstitutional action. this didn t happen by accident. the trump administration, pushed by the gun activists, did this. defense distributed file that of august 1st the age of downloadable guns would formally begin but as you noted at the top, within the last half hour, a district judge in seattle has granted a temporary restraining order, meaning the company defense distributed cannot publish those pictures of 3d guns online for the time being. we will be following this story and see where it goes from here. back to you. bret: we will, thank you. president trump asked his chief of staff to stay on through 2020. we will get reaction to that and all the day s news from the panel when we come back. call one today. are you in good hands? i ve been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. i bet i m the first blade maker you ve ever met. there s a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it s about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and sold around the world. order now at gilletteondemand.com. gillette. the best a man can get. and i 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like these from the new york times, how long can john kelly hang on? cbs news, it may be on the way out. nbc news, basically he s leaving and the wall street journal, as well as some reporting that we had here on fox that he may be leaving. john kelly is staying on according to the white house. the president asking him, one year anniversary yesterday, tweeting out congratulations, but asking him to stay on 22020 as sources say he has said yes. let s start there with the panel. jonah goldberg, senior editor at national review. national public radio. mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist and because he s a good egg we have greg. nice! bret: cohost of the five, whose new book is out today. retribution. it was a good rhyme, brett. bret: what happened to dana? i think the whole segment should be about what happened to dana. oh, my god. bret: john kelly, jonah, staying on. it s like heads are exploding in washington. what happened? the rumor mill was very, very strong. the reporting seem to be pretty clear about this and i don t know. it seems to me that at the very minimum we can say that this kills the story for a little while but the president has said he has full faith and confidence in various other members of his cabinet will haven t endured much longer than that. i would still be surprised if john kelly is actually there through 2020, but it seems like they wanted it to be the end of the story and john kelly, my understanding is that john kelly does not function like a normal chief of staff. normally a chief of staff funnels the information and personnel who get to see the president. he s more like a senior advisor who does manage down, but doesn t manage up the way traditional chief of staff s do. so it s interesting, i don t have a great theory about why this got a 180. first of all, if he does make it all the way to 2020, and we really have no idea if you will, that will be a very long time. that will be the longest. i think john kelly managed to bring some order and discipline to the white house, but the president doesn t want to be managed in the way a normal chief of staff a typical chief of staff would do. he likes free will and conversations. he likes to talk to whenever he wants to whoever he wants to. it s o kelly s efforts to kind of control the information flow to him, that s where he didn t succeed. bret: mollie, the president also likes to break up white house narratives or washington narratives. like just say that s not true. we could not have had more anonymously sourced stories saying this man was on his way out within hours or minutes or days. certainly he wouldn t last past the end of the summer. we had so much reporting saying that. so at the very least of this story, which also is sort of anonymously sourced but the white house is not knocking it down. they always knocked on those other stories, they always call them fake news. they are not doing that in this case. i think that s significant but maybe the real lesson edge we should care less about palace intrigue and more about the actual policies that are coming out of this white house and the fact that there are people who support these policies that make it more effective. mollie is absolutely right. the loser here is the person who keeps saying sources say, or in that sentence that begins with we hear. every time i read we hear or sources say i know it s wrong and the great trick here what trump is doing is that the assumption is not just that john kelly is going to be there through 2020 but so is trump. basically making you think past he s not going to be impeached. he s going to be around. so it s pretty cool. kelly is part of that good cop crazy cop framework like lethal weapon where mel gibson is riggs and kelly is what s his name, murtaugh, the danny glover character. it makes america feel good to see those guys in that office, to see pompeo, mattis, bolton and kelly, because they kind of counter this impulsive rogue mel gibson-like president. bret: so do we get a special report monologue? is that the second iteration of the book? i want to talk about the shutdown back and forth. take a listen to this. it s completely concerning to us, its consternation. frustration at this point as to why congress will do its job. i m hoping we are going to be able to resolve this issue. we know it s important to him. most republicans including myself agree that we ought to fund the wall. the leader and i have had almost daily conversations about the appropriations bill and we are making very good progress. the fly in the ointment here of course is the president. whenever he gets involved he seems to mess that up. bret: now there seems to be this kind of walk back that he has told staff he is not talking about a shutdown before the midterms but then tweets out i don t care about the political ramifications. this is a threat he has made before about how he is willing to shutdown the government in order to get what he wants, funding for the wall and other immigration measures but this one was pretty diluted pretty quickly. he said he didn t have a redline in terms of how much money he wanted for the wall. it wasn t clear whether he was talking about pre-election or afterwards and congress is actually passing appropriations bills for the first time so he would have to veto a lot of them if you really wanted to shut down the government. so congress doesn t want to shut it down. i think he s trying to send a message to his base, i care so much about these immigration issues that i m willing to do something drastic like shutdown the government but everybody i ve talked to doesn t think it s going to happen. bret: doesn t move the needle electorally? i think this is an issue where you are seeing huge division specifically in the republican party, the donor base that wants to continue the immigration policy as it has been but the voter grace that has gotten rather sick and tired of continuing with things and not dealing with some of the systematic problems in our immigration policy so it s hard to see how it plays out because you have a divided repair, the donors versus the voters. bret: speaking of the elections, the koch brothers, now in the sights of president trump. take a listen. because of new tariffs, our farmers livelihoods are at risk. carmakers, factory workers and manufacturers too. farmers want trade, not aid, tell the administration and congress open markets and end tariffs. they are ideologues. they are not just supporting republicans. they are also supporting democrats. we are not going to equivocate on who we are going to support. we are supporting republicans, majorities that are going to help this president passes agenda. bret: the president tweeting the globalist koch brothers have become a total joke. i never sought their support because i don t need their money or bad ideas. they love my tax and regulation cuts, judicial picks and more. i made them richer, their network is highly overrated. i have beaten them at every turn. they want to protect their companies outside the u.s. from being taxed. i m for america first in the american worker. a puppet for no one, to nice guys with bad ideas, make america great again. strong letter to follow. was going to say that. the simple fact is first of all the coke network, 96% of the candidates that they backed in 2016 won their races. 7 out of 8 senators. a lot of this has to do with the data that the afp, one of the offshoots of the koch network collects that they are not sharing. at this idea that we heard even more stridently from steve bannon recently that the kochs need to shut up and get with the program, they have been in favor of drug legalization, criminal justice reform, they were against the iraq war. bret: they are libertarian. and they have $40 billion apiece. i don t want to sound like dana perino but there s a certain amount of squirrel you money that allows them to live up to their principles. of course she s the head of the republican party but that s not the koch networks job. they were very slow to embrace donald trump but when he started doing things that they approve dub like the tax cuts and deregulation, they like that. but they have certain principles. trade is one of them and they have so far decided not to support kevin kramer. allowed women of supporting grammar. i like the koch brothers because they dried the left crazy. the left portrays them as the evil power demons. i think this is just a fight among parents. what s the best meal to have tonight and the kids should just let it go. i don t think it s that big of a deal. his tweets are just getting longer, that s the real problem. they enlarge the suites and he still is going past the limit. that was like a short novel. dana could teach him a thing. bret: we are not going to talk about dana in the next panel. next up, it appears north korea is still working on his weapons program and iran says no dice on talks. gas, bloating, constipation, and diarrhea can start in the colon, and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. only phillips colon health has this unique combination of probiotics. it helps replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. movement and is closely working with the united states. however, i hope you understand that we are not able to speak about the intelligence. bret: from our pentagon team, it s business as usual. it officials the latest technology with the latest assessment north korea told fox news specific goals specifically noting that the regime is building intercontinental ballistic missiles. no evidence that north korea has halted work on missile development despite dismantling parts in a recent week. jonah, what does this tell us? i find this utterly not surprising. my position has always been it has nothing to do with the term, it has to do with the north koreans, the north koreans have organized their entitled political system for 30 years around the need to have nuclear weapons. asking them to give up their nuclear weapons voluntarily is like asking the hells angels to give up their motorcycles and switch to scooters. it is part of their identity as a nation and is not even clear to me that kim jong un could survive a coup if he actually gave away the nukes. so this does not shock me. bret: days ago the president waited a rocket has not been launched in nine months. likewise, no nuclear text till my test. the fake news this thing without ever asking me, always anonymous sources that i m angry because it s not going fast enough. wrong, very happy. but he can t be happy about missiles going forward, right? i agree with jonah. they should not be surprising. kim publicly stated they were going to continue building ballistic missiles. there was nothing in those talks that would indicate he would stop doing it and they do not have sufficient incentive right now to stop with their materials with their building with the ballistic missiles. this is part of a larger program, which is deterrence, which we need to continue doing. we need to keep the lines of communication going, and that has gone well. some of the bodies of the dead soldiers returned and that is a very good start. we also need to think about containment as we continue to pursue the denuclearization strategy. it can take a long time but it s not surprising. bret: the vice president is going over to hawaii to meet the remains there. go ahead. that is not the message that donald trump has been sending. he came back from that meeting in singapore and said there s no more nuclear threat from north korea. lately he s saying i m very patient, it s okay if it takes a long time, but he was very invested in saying the meeting was a success, i have solved the problem, as he put it, everyone can sleep easier and he will have to backpedal from that. people are sleeping easier. it s a much better situation right now than it was a year ago. then exchanging threats to destroy each other, sure. he always said let s see what happens and i think you are seeing what happens. i don t think north korea should hold what they are doing. they are waiting for a grand gesture. it s like a romance. you ve got to put a ring on it. and until there s actually a commitment, and agreement, a former declaration of peace, i don t see why they wouldn t stop doing it, we wouldn t stop doing it. i think it s now who does it first. i think that s where we are not. i m very positive about this. i do feel better about the world and i think that things have happened. bret: and you have said you were an. i m worried about everything but i worry less about north korea and i just think that for this to happen, they don t trust us, we don t trust them so they are waiting for the grand gesture. bret: speaking of grand gestures, the president yesterday talking about iran. preconditions, no. they want to me, i will meet. anytime they want. anytime they want, it s good for the country, good for them, good for us and good for the world. demonstrated commitment to make fundamental changes in how they treat their own people, reduce their malign behavior, agree that it is worthwhile to enter a nuclear agreement that actually prevents proliferation and the president said he s prepared to sit down and have a conversation with them. bret: sounded different there, jonah. foreign statement, foreign ministry statement said no, we re not going to do. this is what unites these two stories and also pompeo s testimony last week. pompeo very strenuously tried to say, imply, suggest, that the president says off the cuff isn t the policy. what we are actually doing on the ground is the policy. so here we have two sound bites from the secretary of state essentially flying back what the president says off the cuff on television and it s a weird way to run a railroad. the president s statements are not u.s. government policy. we are that over and over again. john bolton keeps saying that is not the policy of the united states government but the president is the united states government, so what does that mean? that other countries should discount what he says and wait for pompeo to explain it? the last three presidents who won my collections were people who wanted to meet with the country s adversaries. this is something the electorate wants, even if the foreign policy consensus in d.c. he acts like it s crazy. for a lot of americans there was no difference between what they heard donald trump say and mike pompeo. they want to have a different approach to foreign policy, one based more on national interest than interventionism. bret: lessor here, greg. i look at the personnel and i m not worried. i look at pompeo. i look at bolton. these are grim people. bolton is a walking no. it s a different administration in my opinion that i think they go in there and they are more levelheaded. to paraphrase jonah, it s like comparing this level of foreign policy with the previous is like a humvee to a schwinn. these guys mean business. bret: good luck on the book, thanks for stopping by. always good to see you. bret: hopefully dana will be okay. got her a swear jar. bret: when we get back on attributes to fighting a fire in california. booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. and it s also a story mail aabout people and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you
tonight, breaking news the war of words escalating as joe biden goes after president trump and what he allegedly said about fallen u.s. troops. the president emphatically denying the damaging report, claiming he made insulting comments about fallen american troops, allegedly calling them, quote, suckers and losers. his rival joe biden seizing on the report, citing his own son s service and saying, if true, trump is not fit to be commander in chief. also developing tonight, the antifa activist takedown. portland on edge after u.s. marshals shot and killed an antifa demonstrator wanted for murder. authorities say he was armed and trying to flee. just an hour after saying in an interview the shooting was justified, that he was protecting a friend. the dangerous turn. emotions boil over in times square, a car driving through a crowd of black lives matter investigators. as the daniel prude investigation continues. protesters and police clashing there. seven officers suspended. tonight, the police union says they followed protocol. the virus warning this labor day weekend. health officials saying what happens this labor day will set the course for the fall. the images already coming in large crowds gathering at the shore. the abc news exclusive. the nra insider speaks out. the former chief of staff of the ceo alleging members dues went to fund lapierre s lavish lifestyle, including trips on private jets. pierre thomas standing by. and mother s miracle, the houston mom to be diagnosed with covid 26 weeks into her pregnancy. tonight she shares her story of survival. a powerful message to other moms facing the same fight. good evening. it s great to have you with us as we head into the labor day weekend. i m tom llamas, in for david. we begin tonight with the firestorm erupting over a damning report accusing president trump of making insulting comments about fallen american troops. the atlantic quoting anonymous sources saying the president referred to them as suckers and losers. president trump fiercely denying the allegations over the last 24 hours. a furious joe biden, whose late son beau served in iraq, tearing into the president today, saying if the comments are true, he isn t fit to be commander in chief. white house pushing back hard, lining up former and current members of the administration to deny the report and defend the president. abc s chief white house correspondent jonathan karl leads us off tonight. reporter: joe biden came out today with his angriest denunciation of donald trump yet, pointing to an article in the atlantic alleging that the president referred to american war dead as suckers and losers. if the article is true, and it appears to be, based on other things he said, it is absolutely damnable. it is a disgrace. it is so unamerican. it is so unpatriotic. reporter: the article, based entirely on anonymous sources, portrays the president as someone with contempt for military service. it describes a november, 2018, trip to france. the president was supposed to visit a world war i cemetery where american troops are buried, but the white house canceled the visit, saying bad weather made it impossible for the president s helicopter to fly. the atlantic article alleges trump said, why should i go to that cemetery? it s filled with losers. the president heard about the story while on air force one last night. as soon as he landed, he summoned reporters to the dark tarmac and angrily denied it all. i would be willing to swear on anything that i never said that about our fallen heroes. reporter: multiple people who were with the president on the france trip, including trump critic john bolton, said today on the record that they never heard the president call dead american troops suckers or losers. joe biden said he finds the story believable because of the president s past comments, including what he said in 2015 about john mccain. he s not a war hero. he s a war hero. 5 1/2 years in a p.o.w. camp. he s a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren t captured, okay? i hate to tell you. reporter: biden said the allegations in the article show trump is not fit to be commander in chief. how would you feel if you had a kid in afghanistan right now? how would you feel if you lost a son, daughter, husband, wife? reporter: the president firmly denied the story again today, saying those who serve in the military are heroes. it s a fake story written by a magazine that was probably not going to be around much longer. but it was a totally fake story. jon karl joins us now from the white house. president trump speaking with reporters just moments ago, and you asked him if he regrets insulting john mccain s military service. reporter: tom, he told me he respected mccain, but made it perfectly clear he has absolutely no regret for what he said about him, saying that he is not a war hero, that he preferred people who aren t captured. as the president told me just minutes ago, quote, i say what i say. tom? jonathan karl leading us off tonight. thank you for that. next, the deadly confrontation with a suspected killer in portland, oregon. u.s. marshals shooting and killing an allegedly armed man. just hours earlier, he appeared in a televised interview admitting to killing a pro-trump supporter, calling it self-defense. the city today marking 100 days of protest, bracing for more turbulent days ahead. abc s matt gutman in portland tonight. reporter: tonight, officials this portland calling the latest violence a tipping point. this is an all hands on-deck moment. i think we would all agree that we need to work collectively to stop the violence in portland. reporter: overnight, u.s. marshals shot and killed a man wand wanted in last week s shooting death of a pro-trump protester. the marshals swooping in to arrest him in washington state. it sounded like fourth of july going on. there was just anywhere from 20 to 30 gunshots. reporter: officials say he brandished a gun and tried to flee in his car. there were shots that were fired into the vehicle, and the subject fled from the vehicle, at which time there was additional shots that were fired. reporter: he was pronounced dead at the scene. black lives matter! reporter: we learned of the prests. they pushed the crowd back, made what appears to be a couple of arrests. his killing came hours after vice news released this interview with him in which he called the killing of pro-trump activist jay danielson self-defense. totally justified. had i not acted, i am confident my friend and i would have been killed. reporter: danielson was part of a pro-trump caravan of trucks winding through portland crashing with antifa and blm protesters. matt, you have been reporting about the tension there. you have seen it firsthand. there s concern among law enforcement about what may happen tonight? reporter: tonight and tomorrow. we just spoke with the head of the police union here who said tensions are at a boiling point. when i asked him what the chances were of this weekend passing peacefully given that left and right-wing activists were flocking to the city, he said slim to none. tom? matt, you and your team stay safe there. now to the growing anger and arrest over the death of a black man in custody in rochester, new york. protesters there clashing with police. and here in new york city, a car mademotoght,er, ight, emotions boiling over on the streets of new york city. police sources say a counterprotester s car drove through a crowd of black lives matter demonstrators who had gathered in times square to protest the death of daniel prude. there were no injuries and no arrests. black lives matter! reporter: ongoing protests in rochester. police firing pepper balls and pepper spray to disperse the crowds. at least eight people arrested overnight and two officers injured. these people was out here peacefully protesting on my brother s behalf, and i appreciate their time. i appreciate their compassion. they don t give a damn about that. reporter: the outrage sparked by disturbing body camera footage released this week. put your hands behind your back. reporter: prude seen naked and in the midst of em the officers placing a hood over his head, pinning his neck to the ground. the medical examiner later ruling his death a homicide. the mayor suspending seven officers, saying she d been misled by the police chief. chief singletary never informed me of the actions of his officers to forcibly restrain mr. prude. reporter: chief singletary has ordered internal investigations, and tonight the police union president saying each of the officers followed protocol the night of the incident and are all cooperating with the investigation. the state attorney general s investigation is ongoing. and tom, it appears in anticipation of more protests tonight, rochester police have grabbed riot helmets and barricaded several blocks of city streets. tom? trevor, thank you. we move on now to the labor day warning about the coronavirus. the nation s top health experts say what happens over the next few days could determine the entire fall season. the u.s. now reporting more than 187,000 american lives lost. the cdc projecting an additional 30,000 covid deaths before the end of this month. crowds lining the jersey sho today, many doing theibest to maintain social distancing. others not. northeast university in boston expelling 11 students for violating covid-19 policies. abc s marcus moore is in miami beach. reporter: tonight, the kickoff to labor day weekend. three days, experts warn, are critical in determining how this country battles the virus this fall. new jersey today taking a big step, reopening indoor dining and movie theaters at limited capacity. but the governor with a blunt warning. we will not tolerate any violations, and we will not be afraid to come down hard and make an example of those who think the rules don t apply to them. reporter: so much at stake. ayg close to h le itap every holiday. reporter: doctors urging americans to avoid the behaviors that triggered a spike in coronavirus cases after memorial day and fourth of july. the surgeon general on gma. during these holidays people come together for barbecues, for picnics, they travel, and that sets us up for spread of a highly contagious disease like covid-19. reporter: there was worry about the spread at indoor get-togethers or the spread at bars like this one at the university of south carolina. just one of at least ten schools with more than 1,000 students already infected. dr. anthony fauci warning that several midwestern states are now at risk of a surge. we don t want to see a surge under any circumstances, but particularly as we go on the other side of labor day. reporter: the president suggesting there could be a vaccine by election day. we remain on track to deliver a vaccine before the end of the year and maybe even before november 1st. we think we can probably have it sometime during the month of october. reporter: but his own vaccine chief, dr. monsef slaoui, cautioning a vaccine by election day is possible but very unlikely. we may have enough vaccine by the end of the year to immunize probably, i would say, between 20 and 25 million people. and then we will ramp up the manufacturing to immunize the u.s. population by the middle of 2021. reporter: tonight, early research on russia s vaccine published in the lancet found it triggered an antibody response and had no serious adverse effects. that vaccine launched before the final phase three trial was completed. but while americans wait for a safe vaccine, jose guerrero has reason to celebrate this holiday weekend. after six months in the hospital battling the coronavirus, he finally went home. an encouraging moment in the midst of all of this. the beaches this weekend are open, and miami beach police already cracking down. in the last few weeks they have written 800 tickets for people not wearing a mask. they hope the large crowds here this weekend don t lead to a spike in cases. 800 tickets. marcus, thank you. now to the abc news exclusive. the former nra insider ripping the lid off one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the u.s. joshua powell with scathing allegations in a book out tuesday, accusing chief executive wayne lapierre of misleading nra members on how their money was spent, including trips on private jets. here s pierre thomas. reporter: a former top lieutenant is officially declaring war on perhaps the most powerful and best known lobbyists in washington, nra ceo wayne lapierre. gun owners across america should be horrified by what i saw inside the nra. reporter: in his new book, inside the nra, joshua powell describes an organization rife with corruption. it is this, you know, incredible mess of malfeasance and self-dealing. reporter: he accuses lapierre and other executives of misleading dues-paying members of the nra and using their money to finance lapierre s lavish lifestyle. including $542,000 for trips on private jets. it is an abomination. it s to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars in wastage. reporter: it s possible crimes were committed, is what you are saying. fraud is a crime, that s correct. reporter: but powell is under investigation himself for the same alleged malfeasance he says he s trying to expose. he s named in the new york attorney general s lawsuit seeking to disband the nra that alleges evidence of illegal conduct and inappropriate spending for which the nra says he was ultimately fired. he denies the allegations. the allegations make you seem like part of the problem. i understand that. and i don t believe that s the case. reporter: powell says he now supports some of the gun control measures he says his old boss worked tirelessly to block. he claims the nra said no to any proposed solutions to the nation s gun violence problem it felt would restrict second amendment rights. the nra does have blood on its hands. reporter: the nra calls it pure fiction and said that before he was fired he endorsed everything the nra was doing. tonight, the new york a.g. s office tells abc news that powell s attorney has reach out, offering to cooperate with their investigation. tom? pierre thomas with that exclusive interview tonight. you can hear much more next week on good morning america. we do turn now. we are seeing the first images of jacob blake since being shot in the back by police in kenosha, wisconsin. blake in his hospital bed appearing on video for a court hearing, pleading not guilty to domestic abuse charges unrelated to the shooting. his father says he s out of intensive care and doing better, but still can t move from the waist down. and news about the economy and american jobs. the labor department saying the u.s. added 1.4 million jobs in august. unemployment dropping to 8.4%. there s still much more ahead tonight on world news tonight this friday. the blistering heat wave. triple-digit temperatures 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it was very hard. because last year i had a miscarriage in november. i was four months pregnant and i had a miscarriage, so the first thing that came to my mind was my baby. reporter: esbedy hospitalized for nearly two weeks in intensive care at memorial herman. what was the toughest moment for you? the first three days in the icu. like, i could move my arms, but i couldn t move my legs and my body was just giving up on me. i was so weak. reporter: luckily she received a plasma treatment that may have helped her beat the virus, but her recovery would be long. when i got home, i was still weak. it s like you re teaching yourself how to walk again. everything frightened me. reporter: esbedy, already a mom of two, kept fighting, beating covid and thanking her doctor. he s probably watching this. what would you tell him? that you saved my life. and my baby s life. reporter: and just last week, she s ready, going into labor and delivering a baby girl. say hi, ari. reporter: weighing in at 6 pounds, 9 ounces. telling us her little daughter is a warrior. she has a purpose. there s a reason why she survived all of this, and she s going to be someone in life. reporter: and sending a message to other pregnant moms who might be battling covid-19. keep fighting. don t give up. do not let the disease take over you. this is my little angel, my little warrior, my soldier, my reason for fighting when i was so sick. a great message. we are so happy for her and baby ari. and a big thanks to the doctors and nurses who helped her every step of the way. thanks so much for watching tonight. i m tom llamas. have a safe labor day weekend. good night. we re starting labor day weekend and a trip to the beach sounds so good right now, doesn t it? but if you want to get your toes in a sand a few miles in either direction could make all the difference. i m wayne freedman where this labor day weekend the county has made an unusual request for visitors. stay away. that s coming up. i m meteorologist sandhya patel. i ll have the warnings and those temperatures coming up. building a better bay area for a safe and secure future. this is abc7 news. it s labor day weekend. you might think it s time for fun in the sun, right? this year it might be just the opposite. good evening and thank you for joining us. i m ama daetz. i m larry beil. a year ago we would have tab yit barbecue. it s 2020, that s not happening. we ll soon add dangerously high temperatures along with poor air quality. the coronavirus pandemic means social distance, not social
tonight, several developing stories as we come on the air. 18 days now until the election. tonight president trump and joe biden in a race to the finish. president trump knowing he needs seniors, with another appeal to them in florida. what he promised today. and with hospitalizations for coronavirus increasing in 39 states now, the president saying we are rounding the turn on the virus. joe biden, meanwhile, in michigan saying the reality is much different, the situation is getting worse, as scientists warned heading into fall. and the dueling town halls overnight and the reaction. the fight against coronavirus tonight. the u.s. hitting that new milestone today, more than 8 million confirmed cases now in this country. and tonight after coming down with the virus, former new jersey governor chris christie saying it was a big mistake not wearing a mask at the white house for that rose garden event and for debate prep. what he now says every leader should be urging, describing his symptoms and the week he spent in the icu. new evidence released in that alleged plot to kidnap the michigan governor. tonight, the videos and images with suspects appearing to show off their weapons, doing surveillance on the governor s home, and text messages about the plot. tonight, what defense attorneys for the suspects are now saying. the terror attack near paris. the middle school teacher murdered right outside his school, his throat slashed. police then shooting the attacker. and what we ve learned tonight. the wildfires in california. the trump administration reversing course tonight after at first rejecting a request for help from california. several cities in the east hit with heavy rain and dangerous driving. when this heads out. and tonight, noaa with the new winter outlook for the country. rob marciano is standing by. and, they waited 215 days. you only have to wait 25 minutes for our persons of the week. good evening. and it s great to have you with us here as we near the end of another week together. just 18 days until the election. overnight, those dueling town halls. the reaction to both was immediate. tonight, president trump back on the campaign trail in florida, saying we are rounding the turn on the virus. joe biden in michigan pointing to the numbers. hospitalizations rising in 39 states. arguing we re not turning the corner, that it s getting worse with the colder weather here and americans heading back indoors. president trump knowing he needs seniors, appealing to them in florida again today, making a new promise to them. joe biden saying the scientists are warning it could get worse, we could see another wave as we head into fall and winter. and tonight, the numbers across more than three dozen states. it all comes after the dueling town halls. overnight, both candidates taking questions from voters. president trump making news with what he would not say, and joe biden making headlines on the supreme court, among other issues, and making an impression by staying well after the town hall, still answering questions. abc s chief white house correspondent jonathan karl leading us off tonight. reporter: donald trump is in florida today, pleading for support from seniors, a group he won easily four years ago but is struggling with this year, in part because of his handling of covid-19. today he made them this promise. seniors will be the first in line for the vaccine. the light at the end of the tunnel is near. we are rounding the turn. reporter: campaigning in michigan today, joe biden shot back, saying the president is lying about a pandemic that by any measure is taking a turn for the worse. turned the corner? my lord. it s not disappearing. in fact, it s on the rise again. it s getting worse, as predicted. reporter: during last night s dueling town halls, the president insisted he s long known the dangers of covid-19, but he didn t want people to panic. i don t want to go out and say, everybody is going to die. reporter: today biden said the one who panicked was trump. the reason he lied again to the american people? well, he said he didn t want to panic the american people. americans don t panic. donald trump panicked. reporter: in the first debate, president trump declined to denounce white supremacists. in the last night s town hall, he praised the fringe conspiracists of qanon, who law enforcement warns pose a potential terror threat. and the moderator, savannah guthrie, challenged him to explain why he recently retweeted a wild conspiracy that joe biden faked the death of osama bin laden. you retweeted it. that was a retweet. that was an opinion of somebody. and that was a retweet. i ll put it out there. people can decide for themselves. i don t get that. you re the president. you re not, like, someone s crazy uncle who can just retweet whatever. reporter: one of the navy s.e.a.l.s who took part in the mission, a trump supporter, condemned the retweet. the thing is, he can go over to the cia any time where there is a file cabinet with a picture of bin laden s head, and my hands are in the picture. reporter: today the president sent clear signals he wasn t happy with last night s forum. another evening in paradise, i call it. reporter: but for a president who obsesses about ratings, what really had to hurt was this significantly more people watched the biden town hall than watched his. on abc, biden again dodged the question about whether he supports expanding the number of justices on the supreme court. no matter what answer i gave you, if i say it, that s the headline tomorrow. it won t be about what s going on now. the improper way they re proceeding. but don t voters have a right to know where you stand? they do have a right to know where i stand. they ll have a right to know where i stand before they vote. so you ll come out with a clear position before election day? yes. depending on how they handle this. reporter: in a sign of the trump campaign s troubles, republicans are starting to criticize him. in a call with his constituents, nebraska senator ben sasse said he is worried that trump will lose and bring down the republican senate, too. the united states now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership. the way he treats women and spends like a drunken sailor, the way he mocks evangelicals behind closed doors. his family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity. he s flirted with white supremacists. reporter: and this week two of the most popular republican governors in the country, charlie baker of massachusetts and larry hogan of maryland, announced they would not be voting for trump. let s get right to jon karl live tonight from washington. we re learning that former president obama will hit the campaign trail for the first time with a stop in philadelphia next wednesday for joe biden. and jon, i know you re following other news coming in tonight about president trump s personal lawyer, rudy giuliani. reports the white house was warned that giuliani had become the target of a russian intelligence operation? reporter: david, abc news confirmed a report first in the washington post that u.s. intelligence warned the white house that russian operatives were trying to influence giuliani in a bid to get him to pass misinformation to the president. this was during a time when giuliani was traveling to ukraine, trying to dig up dirt on the bidens. jon karl leading us off again tonight. jon, thank you. and now to the new urgency about the coronavirus in this country as cases hit a grim new milestone today. more than 8 million confirmed cases here in the u.s. the death toll more than 218,000. pfizer announcing they could submit a vaccine for emergency approval at the end of november. and what former governor chris christie is now saying after spending seven days in the icu with covid about not wearing a mask at the white house for that rose garden event and for debate prep, saying it was all a big mistake. here s alex perez. reporter: tonight, another grim milestone. more than 8 million americans infected with the virus. cases now climbing in nearly every corner of this country. seeing the heat map, how it lights up with test positivity, that is in more than 30-plus states, is going in the wrong direction. reporter: 39 states with rising hospitalizations, 13 hitting records just this week. and now the number of deaths also climbing as more hospitals get overwhelmed. all of our front line providers, who are doing an amazing job taking care of our patients, as many know, there has been a huge surge of cases in utah. our hospitals are getting full. reporter: the first covid patients arriving at the field hospital set up outside milwaukee. after spending seven days in the icu, former new jersey governor chris christie telling gma the virus hit him like a freight train. all of a sudden i got fever and chills and body aches, and i was just racked with pain and exhaustion. and it all happened very quickly. within 24 hours, i went from feeling absolutely fine to being in the intensive care unit. reporter: christie tested positive after not wearing a mask during the president s debate preps and that superspreader event at the white house. he now says he s learned a lesson. i let my guard down. and it was wrong. it was just a big mistake. leaders all across politics, sports, the media, should be saying to people, put your masks on and be safe until we get a vaccine that can help to protect us completely. reporter: in the race for a vaccine, pfizer today saying if all goes well, they could have a vaccine ready to send for emergency authorization soon after the third week of november. a vaccine can t come soon enough. in florida, unimaginable loss for the family of jerry jones, the 51-year-old veteran and ems first responder who died of the virus just a day after his 41-year-old sister also lost her life to covid. i had to call jerry s mom, and tell her that her child didn t make it after the day before, she d gotten the phone call about her daughter not making it. two blows. two devastating blows. those were their only children. just awful. a mother losing her daughter and son just a day apart. and alex joins us now from outside an emergency room in chicago tonight. alex, i know that illinois is just one of the states tonight seeing record cases and increases in hospitalizations? reporter: yeah, david, some very alarming numbers. illinois breaking its own record of new cases, a record that was set just yesterday. across the country, some 63,000 new cases have been reported. we have not seen numbers like this since july. david? alex perez on this for us again tonight. alex, thank you. and with all of this playing out in the u.s., new restrictions across europe tonight. and the world health organization warning without action, deaths next year could soar to four or five times higher than what we saw last spring. tonight france imposing curfews, fining people if they re out after 9:00 p.m. and in london tonight, with new limits on the size of gatherings there, this body cam video showing officers breaking up a wedding with more than 100 guests. back here at home, we have new reporting on the terror plot to arrest gretchen whitmer. a judge finding significant evidence to move ahead to a grand jury for some of the suspects charged with federal crimes. 14 suspects face charges in all. one more added this week. seven of them, alleged members of a extremist militia group. prosecutors releasing new evidence tonight. this video showing a suspect with a cache of weapons. other items showing the suspects surveilling the governor s home. here s pierre thomas tonight. reporter: tonight, in just-released images from federal authorities, suspects accused of allegedly planning the kidnapping of michigan s governor seen taking surveillance footage of her vacation home. in this video, one of the suspects is showing off his cache of weapons. all this as the fbi and prosecutors have argued in court this week that the suspects should not be released pending trial because they re too dangerous. abc affiliate wxyz obtaining this police dash cam video, showing suspect brandon caserta pulled over on september 19th during a routine traffic stop. shortly afterwards, the fbi says, caserta allegedly sent texts to the group, one saying the end times are approaching for these piece of expletive cops. in this video posted on social media, caserta endorsing violence against the government. i m an anarchist. i m about to drop a bomb. defensive force is legitimate. reporter: but defense attorneys today claiming it was all, quote, big talk. we re talking about guys who want to run around in the woods with guns and say bad things about the government. reporter: david, michigan is banning the open carry of guns at election day polling places. michigan s secretary of state says she wants citizens to cast their votes, quote, without the fear of threats or intimidation. this plot clearly has many in the state on edge. david? pierre thomas from washington. pierre, thank you. and we turn now to the horrific terror attack outside paris. a teacher decapitated on the street right in front of his school. police say he had received threats. and here s maggie rulli tonight. reporter: tonight, a barbaric terror attack in broad daylight in the suburbs of paris. police say an 18-year-old man beheaded a middle school history teacher with a knife on the street in front of his school. officers shooting and killing the attacker after a brief chase. police say the teacher had received threats after mentioning the controversial cartoons depicting the prophet mohammed published by the charlie hebdo newspaper during a lesson about freedom of expression, images many muslims find disrespectful. late today, french president emmanuel macron visiting the gruesome scene, calling the killer a coward. back in 2015, islamist terrorists attacked charlie hebdo s offices in paris, killing 12 people. recently, the satirical paper had republished images that led to that original attack. today s murder is the second terror-related attack in france in less than a month, and since the start of the ongoing trial for the newsroom massacre. just weeks ago, two people were stabbed in front of charlie hebdo s former offices. they call today s attack horrific and revolting. saying this teacher was killed in the line of duty, that now intolerance has crossed a new threshold. david? maggie, thank you. tonight the white house reversing course after first rejecting california s request for disaster relief amid the worst fire season on record. the white house saying president trump denied the claim for victims of several devastating fires, including this one, the creek fire, saying the state had not provided, quote, relevant data. then late today after an outcry and a call from governor newsom, the president releasing the aid. tonight meanwhile, red flag warnings continue amid record heat. and in the east, the storm moving through. let s get the latest from rob marciano tracking it all for us. hey, rob. reporter: hi, david. we are getting rain ahead of the cold front. rain that california could desperately use. let s start there. they had red flag warnings and record high temperatures again. temperatures will cool but remain dry and gusty, and still above normal through the end of next week with no rain in sight. the rain across this front from philly to new york, hartford to boston, heavy at times. could see some snow mixing in new england. cold air behind it. temperatures tomorrow morning could feel like in the 30s as far south as tennessee. david? 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reporter: 80-year-old joseph loreth is about to reunite with his wife eve after seven months apart. they have been married 60 years. somebody s waiting. reporter: they both live at the rosecastle at delaney creek assisted living facility in brandon, florida. they were separated in march when joseph had to undergo surgery and then rehabilitation. and because of the pandemic, they were not allowed to be in the same room until joseph fully recovered. 215 days. miss eve, i brought you somebody. look at me, sis. who s here? who s here, mama? oh, my god. who s here? oh, look at him, dear mama. look at him. i sure missed you. reporter: eve standing to hug her husband. oh, i missed you. i missed you so much. i love you. i missed you so much. reporter: a kiss on joseph s forehead. i missed you so much. oh, i missed you. oh, you re all right. i love you so much. after 60 years, i got to do something right. reporter: and right here, tonight hi, david. reporter: joseph and eve together, holding hands. it s very nice. very nice. reporter: they told us they met in high school at a skating rink. she started chasing me around and she never quit. hi, david. reporter: and clary abreu, the coordinator at rosecastle who brought them back together, proud to care for them, telling us about the moment. she was so excited, she paced probably all night, and she sat out in the dining room waiting for him. i missed you so much. he was just so emotional. it was so beautiful to see how much he loved his wife. it is beautiful to see, joseph and eve back together. good night. but i can t say i expected this. because it was easy. to fight these fires, we need funding - plain and simple. for this crisis, and for the next one. prop 15 closes tax loopholes so rich corporations pay their fair share of taxes. so firefighters like me, have what we need to do the job, and to do it right. the big corporations want to keep their tax loopholes. it s what they do. well, i do what i do. if you ld like to help, join me and vote yes on prop 15.
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reportedly in the mix to be trump s running mate which would make sense given his behavior wrote on social media quote, it s time to fight fire with fire. in response to a new york times piece about recent calls for refry abuse, former white house chief strategist steve bannon echoed stephen miller telling the paper quote, there are dozens of ambitious backbencher state attorneys general and ne district attorneys who need to seize the day and own this moment in history. then there is trump himself. in s an interview earlier this week he suggested hillary clinton be jailed in response to his guilty verdict. and here s what he said at his florida home yesterday in a fox news interview last night with sean hannity where you see hannity trying to get him to the right answer but no. take a listen. you can t gag a nominee. can you imagine you re running for office and you gag. you re not allowed to talk. when that happens we are no longer a democracy. and we re not going to let that happen. and i know a lot of republicans who want retribution. they want to do that we re going to see what happens. people are claiming you want retribution. people are claiming you want u what has happened to you done to democrats. would you ondo that ever? look, what s happened to me has never happened in this country before. and it has to stop because wait a minute, i want to hear that again. it has to stop. we re not going to have a country. if you re elected awhat doe that mean? define that. what i ve gone through nobody s ever gone through. i m a very legitimate person. i built a great business. focus on those that want people to believe that you want retribution. that you will use the system of justice to go after your political enemies. number one, they re wrong. it onhas to stop. otherwise we re not going to have a country. look, when this election is over, based on what they ve done, i would have every right to go after them. it s easy because it s joe biden and you see all the criminality. will you pledge to restore equal justice? equal application of our laws? end this practice of weaponnization? is that a promise? you have to do it. but it s awful. look, i know you want i m asking. i don t want to look naive. what they ve done to the republican party, they want to arrest on no crime. i will do everything in my power not to let, but this tremendous criminality here. what they re doing to me if it s going to continue we re really not going to have much of a country left. okay, willie. help me out here. first of all, no criminality. this was not biden s justice department in the criminal trial in new york city. it was a yjury of donald trump peers, 12 people and alternates. just to fact check him right there. but also hannity, mr. softball, setting him up saying come on, come on, you wouldn t actually have retribution. you don t mean that. of course he s like yes, i do. just like what the documents. when hannity was like come on, you didn t actually take the documents. donald trump is kenot messing around. he promises retribution and as he even told hannity when hannity gave him a chance to semi cover it he will serve it up. so, with that, i mean i m not sure what more people need to know given a lot of things donald trump has promise have had come to pass. i m not smiling about the substance of what the president said, i m smiling with what you put your finger on which is this entire genre of interview where sean hannity embeds the answer into his question and tries to lead donald. i wish my oral exams in high school and college were like that where the teacher would just nod along and give you the answer. that s the way they do it. he said donald trump in the remarks we played before that clip he said a malot of people are saying they re going to want retribution. so he likes to separate himself but obviously he means himself and obviously sending cues to others about what should happen. again, he was charged, he was tried, he was convicted by a jury of his peers in new york. the fact that he took classified documents back to his beach club is not some imagined conspiracy against him. he did. hing we ll see what happens in that trial as it moves forward. he wants retribution against people, the justice department, the fbi who are actually bringing him to justice on things that he did or is alleged to have done. let s bring to the conversation yeah. one thing before we get to our guests. it s so interesting to me that n he says this has never happened before and that s why something needs to be done. in every case, well, i will say in the most clear cases because obviously we have to wait for the law to play out. but in the case of the documents you see the pictures. he says he took them. he says they re his. he admits to the crime. in the case of the hush money. criminal trial where 34 felony counts against donald trump came up guilty, there was evidence presented in court that backed it up. so yes, yes, mr. president, former president trump, this hasn t happened before. there hasn t been a former president who had sex with a porn star while his wife was pregnant and then years later before a campaign was to get into full swing paid off through hush money through a fixture breaking campaign finance laws and having fraudulent business records. i mean that is not happened before. he s right, otit hasn t happene before. but it s unfortunately what happened to him because of his own actions. right. and change the suspect from subject to some imagined conspiracy that suggests the government is out to get him. let s bring in ceo of the massina group jim massina. and ran obama s 2012 reelection campaign 20successfully, of course. jim, great to see you. you often are the guy who comes in and sort of tries to calm the nerves a bit of democrats b when they get panicky. not in some polly anish way, but looking at data, looking at normals. let s talk about the fundraising that scared a lot of democrats after donald trump was convicted last week on 34 felony counts. raised a boatload of money. put that into some perspective though as compared to how the biden campaign is doing. yeah, if you look at the overall numbers biden continues to have a very healthy fundraising lead. has way more money in eathe ban i know this sounds geeky, but the truth is joe biden s money is all small donors whereas donald trump s money is from m big donors who are giving to his super pacs. that ad buying later in the campaign is more expensive. they can t get the lowest unit rate. most importantly, the one thing you can t make more of in a presidential election is time. we re 152 days out and the biden campaign has over 150 field offices staffed with paid staffers in the battleground states. donald trump has zero. so every day these people are talking to voters both their own base and these swing voters and you just can t replicate that with money. we always knew that trump was going to catch up weafter he go the nomination. he clearly had an outstanding day after his criminal conviction. it s a little cynical they raised a bunch of money after he was found guilty of 34 felony counts. it y is what it is. overall the biden campaign is doing what they need to do which is build a massive army in these battleground states. the biden campaign looking forward to that first debate as a moment to change fra joke tour of the race. we re seeing polls shift a little bit towards the president. let s owget you to weight in yesterday. this wall street journal story about the president s age. we can set aside the marriage of the journalism. there were flaws in the story we covered at length yesterday. polls suggest some americans think the president is too old for office. we know donald trump just a couple years younger. if you were still in the white house, what would your communication strategy be to simply manage the issue. fair or not it s out there. how would you suggest the white house and campaign handle it? by doing exactly what they re doing. getting him out there as much e as they can. about getting an early debate. you re exactly right. it is an issue. people have questions about it. we all remember at the state of the union he did a master performance and looked on top of his game and the polls rose then. this debate moment is really, really big for them. i can t believe donald trump is letting them have it. people expect joe biden to not be as good as donald trump. trump has set all the expectations to the top activity moon. he s this great or tore. he s this great guy. joe s sleepy joe, et cetera. joe biden goes in there and has a good debate and it s going to significantly make people think about their perceptions of this race. i think it ll be a very big moment and i think biden was very smart to ask for a debate as early as he could get it. we ll be right back with much more morning joe. ore morn. sup? -who are you? i m your inner child. get in. listen. 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they were going to fight for democracy. all these years later, 80 years later, democracy is again in peril. that s a fact. that s a fact. listening to donald trump, that s a fact we have to live with. that s a fact that americans are going to have to make up their minds about. what kind after country do we want going forward? we may hear some of that theme from president biden tomorrow at normandy when he delivers the address. he ll be there all week as you reported yesterday. he ll be at bella woods later in the week the world war i site. talking about the young men who frankly saved the world in those days, weeks and months but also about bringing it to today and the threats of democracy here. it s hard not to be almost emotional thinking about this scene with eisenhower. we ll hear from the president several times this week. his remarks tomorrow will be relatively brief. it s the next day, the friday where he goes where ronald reagan delivered his famous speech. talking about yes, the sacrifices of 80 years ago that helped save the world. but connecting it to today. the battle we re seeing in ukraine. also just the need to affirm and rebuild democracies across the globe. i m told the odds are against him invoking donald trump by name. trump will shadow this. he will draw an implicit contrast to the future that trump will bring versus the one that he would. one with allies. one with defending democracy. we know donald trump will take a different approach to the ukraine war working to be returned to office. he almost pulled autoof nato on the eve of going to helsinki. we ll hear that in grand terms from president biden in what aides tell me will be one of the most important speeches he delivers this year. one that will not on the surface be a campaign speech. yeah. we just talk about the choices. mike talking about the choices. we hear what he said about hillary clinton. we re talking about nato. donald trump trying to undermine nato. said he wanted to undermine nato. said a couple months ago he encouraged vladimir putin to invade nato countries if they didn t have sort of defense structure that he wants them to have. of course he talked about putting hillary clinton in jail. throwing political opponents in jail. his people have talked about throwing us in jail. throwing people that run this show in jail. they ve talked about throwing media companies in jail that are insufficiently loyal. he talks about executing chairmans of the joint chiefs of staff who are insufficiently politically loyal to him. he talks about terminating the constitution. he talks about using seal team six to execute political opponents and says that he would be immune from that. he had his lawyers argue that in court. go through all of it and it is extraordinary. it s extraordinary that this man is talking like an autocrat. talking like putin and that right now this race is too close to call. i think it s really worth pointing out that the difference between trump in 2020 and trump in 2024 and trump in 2016 is this time around his team and campaign are much more focused on how they would do exactly the kinds of things you ve spoken about. they ve drawn up the policy papers. they ve dug in to the workings of the american government to see how they could effectively take control of the fcc. of the doj. use the irs against political opponents of theirs. they ve been very honest about the idea of using this second administration for retribution against those people who have counted donald trump. it s sometimes easy with donald trump because we hear so many things that are out of the norm they go well, it s just another thing donald trump says. behind donald trump in 2024 is a whole infrastructure of people putting in place the plans to follow up with the kinds of things that donald trump is saying out on the campaign trail. they didn t manage to do much of it in 2016 because they weren t prepared. this time around they re making sure they are prepared. so the group republican voters against trump is launching a new billboard ad campaign looking to persuade moderate republicans and republican leaning voters in four swing states. the billboards feature former trump voters who now say they won t vote for him in the wake of his conviction last week in his new york city criminal trial. let s bring in the executive director of republican voters against trump sarah longwell. she s also a publisher and host of the focus group podcast. thank you so much for joining us. to tell us more about this campaign and what you re hearing from republican voters. question after the conviction, the political question is will voters care? and from our perspective you have to help make them care. the republicans are out there right now and they are building their own narrative. building their own echo chamber. they are all singing from the same song sheet that this was rigged, that we have a two tier justice system. we have to go on offense right now and make sure voters understand how unique, how historically unique in a desperately dark way it is to have a convicted felon running for president. so our program republican voters against trump, it hick hinges on a key theory which is you need credible messengers to speak to these vote percent. we have hundreds of people who voted for trump in the past, many voted for him twice who are explaining and there s testimonials all over our website explaining why they won t vote for trump again. but after the conviction we wanted to make sure that it stuck with people. we have watched donald trump extraordinary things have happened. like his own vice president not endorsing him. and yet it kind of just rolls off voters minds. trump s been around for a long time. we have two functional incumbents and that create as dynamic where voters aren t as tuned in in ways they might have. you have to go on offense. you have to have strong affirmative messaging to make sure things stick in the mind of voters. you can t count on the idea that voters hear conviction and walk away. you have to help them understand why this is so extraordinary. why what he defense wrong and why he s too dangerous to be in the white house. to that point about the difficulty in making things stick to trump. we live in a world where it seems like everyone s attention span is a few fleeting moments. so it s not just there s a conviction. conviction happened at the end of may. here we are the first few days of june. we re still five months to the election. how do you get it to resinate to stay in the forefront of voters minds not just now but as they head into the ballot box? this is one of the ways democrats have to figure out how they re going to do their messaging strategy. i think that oftentimes they get really fractured around messaging and have a difficult time going on offense as opposed to playing defense. so part of this is to make sure that acknowledging donald trump s conviction is a regular feature in the way that democrats are talking about him. and not just joe biden. joe biden as a messenger has a particular role i think to explain to the country what he s going to do over the next four years. but democrats need an army of surrogates who are out there making an affirmative case. going on offense. going on attack against donald trump. making sure the countriens understands. and that he s a been convicted of sexual assault and that he s been convicted for, you know, the things he did with the trump org and reminding people of january 6th. it is really, this is going to be a choice about who is the the lesser of two evils and you have to have voters understand trump is the greater of evils. liable of sexual abuse, defamation and massive fraud. and then convicted felon who is openly hell bent on revenge. that s what voters have to consider. sarah longwell. thank you for being on this morning. coming up, new reporting on how closely europe is watching the upcoming u.s. election. we ll be right back. l be right. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i ll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. 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these interviews was existential. if donald trump comes back, we made it through the first trump term. and it took a toll on the transatlantic relationship. but they made it through. they said if he comes back given what he s been saying about nato, given what he s been saying about russia, the war in ukraine, they re really afraid that it will be the end of nato and the beginning of a new stage of russian aggression that europe frankly isn t prepared for without america s support. so mckay, let s dive into that more. there s been from president macron of france this effort to make europe less dependent on the u.s. in terms of our military and financial strength. what other steps are he and his fellow european leaders taking to try to if you will trump proof what they re doing right now ahead of his possible return? yeah, there have been a number of efforts recently proposed. one of them as you mentioned is, you know, developing defense autonomy in europe in a way that would potentially channel funds away from nato which really does rely on america and toward the european defense alliance. there s been talk of taking the responsibility for arming ukraine, literal logistical responsibility out of america s hands and putting that in nato s hands because they don t know if a future trump administration would abandon the war or not. really the biggest change has been that a lot of european allies are spending a lot more now on their own defense. and this is one thing that, you know, trump takes credit for and i have to say a lot of the european officials i spoke to grudgingly gave him some credit for. they said trump by kind of being so vociferous about this issue that european allies aren t spending enough on defense has sort of bullied a lot of these countries into spending more, but it s come at a cost. and that cost is that these european countries while they are now spending more on collective defense, contributing more to nato, also don t trust america as a long term ally the way they have for the last 75 years. when america becomes an unpredictable power or a transactional power, that changes the entire global order in ways that i don t think we can predict right now. sure does. and we heard back in i think it was 2018, 2019 angela merkel saying we can no longer depend on the united states basically with trump because he s so erratic. we ll have to defend ourselves. it s something macron said as well. if donald trump s making them spend more money on defense because they re spending more money on defense because they know they can t count on the united states in their minds if donald trump is president of the united states. mckay writes this also, that almost every official i spoke with believed that trump is going to win. i hear that an awful lot from europe and i hear from across the world. i think claire, we should probably tell our friends not to bet too many euros or pounds on that fact because what you see on tv may not be what ends up happening at the voting booths for swing voters in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. yeah, those three states particularly where really biden has never been more than a point or two behind and in polls has been ahead. those three states are incredibly important. mckay, i wanted to ask you about what s going on in europe domestically in terms of their politics. we have seen in the united states populism and anti- immigration that has really roiled our politics here. what is happening in that front in europe? it looks from a distance that they re having some of the same issues internally within the conservative parties there. the antiimmigration, the populism. is that something that europe is also worried about? oh, no question. the fear of trump s return in europe is of a piece with the fear of a broader rise of right wing populism and nationalism. we ve seen it in the uk. italy. in germany the afd party. the far right party. there was one recent poll that found 25% of germans now identify with that party. and that s a pretty extreme party. so there s no question that throughout western democracies and really in europe especially we have seen a lot of the same forces that contributed to trump s rise. in some ways the europeans understand trump through that prism. they re saying, you know, we get it, we have our own issues here. if some of our allies have elected leaders like donald trump. it s different when it happens in america. america is not only the lynch pin of the nato alliance. it is in a lot of ways seen as kind of the big brother. european countries rely on america for security, they rely on it for leadership. they rely on america to set an example to the world for what a well functioning western democracy should look like. a lot of the anxiety about this election in europe stems from the fact that they re seeing this chaos in american democracy and wondering if the city on a hill can still be looked to as an example. and that causes a lot 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with us again this morning. you ran for congress in the state of maryland. fell a little short l but did have some money leftover from that campaign. tell us more about what you plan to do with it. thanks for having me on. always good to be on with you all. we did fall short, but the reason why i ran was to do everything i can to continue to fight for democracy. to fight to preserve our constitution. and to fight to stop maga extremists. at the very top of the ticket, donald trump. we did raise millions of dollars in a very short period of time and what that told me is that a lot of people across the country that message of our democracy, the threat of losing it. the threat of this being our potential last free and fair election resinates with a lot of people. it s at the top of peoples minds. what we ll do is continue to use that momentum to continue to go across the country. up and down the ballot. and elect democrats and stop maga republicans. also fight to continue to get big 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realized but as i first started into it i was nauseous. i was nauseated. i thought i can t do this part. then it tripped over into i m excited to do this part. that s what i was going to ask you at some point as an actor as repulsive as the man is there s something about getting into the character and playing it that s rich for you professionally, i think. yes, yes. really you re going to enter into you ve got to put on armor about your morality and everything else and you become, you know, a jedi knight of denial which we have a few of those these days. we do. seems to be going around. i remember talking to a friend connie who said yeah, that murdaugh guy it s like old satan looked at him and went whoa, dude. like you re bad. how did you prepare for the role? not just someone who satan would say that about but someone who is so timely. who is alive. who their developments in the case as we speak. how much did you study him? how do you decide on your performance? there s a lot to look at. you can go lateral, long time. researching and looking. i had to get moving pretty quick because production thing was so fast. i think there s certain amount of things you can make yourself similar to and then because there s other things you re just doing your own interpretation. so you re trying to, you know, channel those aspects as they would occur to you rather than just mimicking him. it was also really heard because he lost a lot of weight and there were those issues and i had to go with my weight and we don t have a lot of time to shoot this movie. you capture him well. let s take a look at another clip where alex confronts his son paul about the boating accident that killed his friend. besides a dead girl and our financial ruin. stop. i am not finished. talk to me. talk to me. she was my friend. huh? i didn t mean for it to happen. i didn t mean to hurt anyone. the hurt you cause that night hasn t even yet been felt. i m ashamed. and embarrassed of you. get out of my 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i think he s listening to me. they were going to go into rafah fullbore, invade all of rafah can go into the city, take it out, move with full force. they haven t done that. what they have done is they have agreed to a significant agreement that if, in fact, i must accept it, look, it is being backed by egypt, being backed by the saudis, being backed by almost of the home arab world. we will see. this is a very difficult time. richard hoss, he s right about who s backing it, everyone except the two parties involved in the war to have this cease-fire come about and perhaps an end to the war. hamas says it will not agree to the terms. israel says it will not agree to anything that does not include eradicating hamas as israel puts it. where does that leave us ? it was exactly a week ago today president biden went out and announced this three phase plan and the wait was represented a week ago that it was sent to the israel s plan and the idea was to get hamas to sign on. israel backed away from it, if they ever signed onto it to begin with. hamas, as you saw, has now said it won t accept a temporary cease-fire, which is phase one of the plan. it seems to have been stillborn. what we are looking at is the other part of the news this morning. you are going to have continued israeli military operations, inevitably, no matter how careful israel is, because of co-location of hamas with civilians, you will see this kind of stories you have for people, innocent people are going to be killed, along with hamas militants. my guess is we will see this for some time. this will go on, the israeli national security advisor said military operations will continue through the end of the year. i don t see any reason to doubt that. i think the real question is whether we see an escalation of fighting as things dial down somewhat in gaza in the north between israel and hezbollah. that has been the most recent news out of israel. the idea that we are on a precipice of peace somehow, actually, the opposite is more the reality. i hate to be so depressing this morning but i think we are looking at open ended but low level war in gaza with the danger of escalation in the north in southern lebanon. coming up, ed luce of the financial times, will tell us his new piece, titled biden respects the law, trump does not and what that could mean for the election. have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? 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everything else pales in comparison. i think that is why wall street journal, article does when it was so frustrating because of the difference between these two candidates. the moral equivalence. we talked about you can look at that article versus donald trump for getting up world war ii existed, forgetting barack obama is not still president and then also you could just do, again, the false moral equivocation between january the sixth, the riot, trump s role in that and joe biden forgiving student loan debt. we get all these false comparisons. i ve got to say one of the most maddening has been donald trump stealing nuclear secrets versus hunter biden and whatever republicans decide at the time is a great risk to america s national security because of what hunter biden did. the key point here is america s system is working, it is intact. both donald trump last week and hunter biden in wilmington for the next couple of weeks are receiving trial by jury, due process, they will have the right of appeal. i ve no idea whether hunter biden will be convicted or acquitted but i do know that he has two cases against him. the second of which, the tax case starts on september the fifth at the beginning of the general election in california. biden could at any point to stop this from happening. he s not, he s not interfering. there is no rigging coming from this president. where it is coming from is the supreme court. we will get them later this month, presumably later this month. they might prevaricate even longer. later this month, finally coming down with their ruling on what should have been an open and shut case about whether the resident has immunity for whatever he does in office, thereby ensuring trump will not be held accountable for january 6th in court before november the fifth. that is the real story going on here. the trial is in wilmington. i have no great insight to what is going to happen there but the trial in wilmington is the rule of law taking its normal course, as was the case in new york last week. what is happening in the supreme court is judicial interference in the political process. so, ed, you have the gift of being able to look at america and american politics from the distance created by your birth. you are not from here. you weren t born here. so, when you look at it and you write about it, as you did today, and you mentioned the supreme court slowing things down, making it almost impossible for a trial in the january 6th or the papers kept at mar-a-lago, a trial for most things are happening prior to election and hunter biden on trial today in wilmington, what is your sense of what would happen to the system, and the rule of law if hunter biden is acquitted and what is your sense of what other countries, other nations think and view this when they look at what is happening in america? that is a great question. it is a remarkable moment that we are having. the first conviction of a former president and the first trial of a child of a sitting president happening in the space of a few days of each other. i have no doubt if hunter biden is convicted, there is not going to be an uproar on the democratic side, there isn t going to be accusations of bigoted justice, even though the judge is trump appointed, there s no reason to believe that judge is a hatchet job kind of charge. if, however, hunter biden is acquitted, all conspiratorial hell will break loose. you mentioned the other trump trial that isn t going to happen, the one in florida, the federal trial that judge aileen canon is in charge of. she is finding extraordinary time delaying tactics, once that nobody had ever thought of. the latest is whether the special prosecutor, smith, was unconstitutionally appointed and she s going to hear arguments about that. she is finding any and every excuse, including invented ones not to hear this case. it is an extraordinary example of justice delayed being justice denied. and, i think that is what foreigners are 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women. women, of the tract, as they are doing, especially younger men, they are more prone to nationalist content, they are more prone to misogynistic content. you know, richard, it is so fascinating. maybe five years ago, when people like scott galloway three years ago were talking about this and a lot of people through their hands up, my god, how dare you talk about boys when men have been dominant through, you know, for thousands and thousands of years. you heard those complaints. on a very personal level but so much anecdotal evidence that i suspect a lot of people here in this are young women talking to mika and me going where are the men to date, where are the men that understand the basics? and, there s this horrible choice. on one side, you do have again, all anecdotal but you have, well, i m not going to wander into that minefield what i was about to say. let s just say younger women are understanding the costs of the mail crisis right now. they are living the cost. they are living the cost of it. what is interesting, these stories you say anecdotal but it is in the evidence, it is in the data. there is a big gender gap in college today than there was in the 70s. the biggest rise in suicide rates, tragically, has been among young men. we are losing 40,000 men a year to suicide. what i discovered is, among parents if you have a boy in the k-12 education system, you kind of get this immediately. if you have a doctor in the dating market, you kind of get this immediately too. and, realizing you just can t separate these things out and it is not a betrayal of the ideals of gender equality to start dealing with issues of boys and young men. it is the application of the ideals of gender equality. it is not a zero-sum game. i think that penny is dropping. the people are realizing we cannot neglect the problems of boys and men if we want a world that is better for all of us. i was particularly interested with what ms. gates has done. i salute her for it in terms of investing also in young boys and men and i think you or richard mentioned young boys and men of color. many of us in any study has shown disproportionately are raised by single mothers. i was one of them. to help those young boys and men that are buttressed by programs like yours, and to develop them, also helps the single mothers who are trying to balance life. talk about the challenge of that and how this could be helpful. reverend, you and i said that, we were raised by superheroes. my mother was an immigrant who lived and died a secretary, raced me on her own. what the research shows is the single point of failure, if you were to reverse engineer and why men are struggling is when they lose a male role model. the second most single-parent household, which is latin for a woman heading a household alone, just behind sweden. as richard s work has pointed out, the vast majority of people in primary school education are women. a boy is twice as likely to be suspended for the same behavior in school and five times as likely if he is black boy. would you have is an entire cohort of men being raised without male influence. what is equally interesting is girls have similar outcomes in single-parent households, same college attendance, same rates of self-harm. what richards research has shown is that while boys are physically stronger, they are mentally and emotionally weaker and we need to knowledge that. we need a group of thriving gunmen. how many times have we heard people say i know it time of young single women who are great and i can t find men for them. you can t find men for them, just not any man they want. we need to level up young people in general, specifically young men. coming up, historian doris kearns goodwin on how looking at america through a historical lens can help make sense of the issues facing our country today. try today. 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presidential historian, doris kearns goodwin. so good to have you with us. what a time. let s start with president biden making some of his most candid comments yet about former president trump s criminal conviction at a fundraiser in connecticut last night. the president called trump a convicted felon who stopped after the 2020 election. the president addressed the attacks trump and his allies have lobbed at the justice system. biden s of the former president, wants you to believe it is already. nothing could be further from the truth. it is reckless and dangerous for anyone to say it is rigged just because they don t like the outcome. biden added, the justice system is a core of american democracy and we should never allow anyone to tear it down. biden continued, here is what is becoming clearer and clearer every day. the threat trump poses in his second term would be greater than his first. this isn t the same trump that got elected in 2016. biden said, he is worse. doris, this is joe biden using the term convicted felon, a private fundraiser in connecticut, as john has been telling us, this is something we may hear more of from the biden campaign. they now officially are running against a man convicted of 34 felonies. how do you think that figures into the race ? every event affects the next event and i was going to think this project will affect how the conventions will happen. president trump has put out is we are a backward country, we are a country that is corrupt, we are a country that looks like a third world country and all of our systems are corrupt. i just don t think the american people are going to feel that way. one of the things i look at when i look at history is the backward look and the negative look as not working campaigns. i think biden understands that. when dragon was running against carter, carter talked about the malaise of the people, that it was a crisis of confidence in the people and we can comes along and says it s not the people, it s leadership that has failed and i am here to provide the leadership. the same thing happened when hoover talked about there s not much he could do about the depression because the government would weaken the people and he was going to hope we were getting through it somehow around the corner prosperity would come and fdr says it s not the people that is the problem, it is your leadership and i m going to do action. biden is on a good stand, in a certain sense, to talk about the rule of law, to talk about the country being a country that is not corrupt and to make that a contrast. i think this is going to be something, we don t know how. the debate could change everything, the conventions could change everything, events could change everything but right now, this will affect the tone of the campaign. this darkness, this dim view of the country presented by donald trump, this american carnage as he called it in his inauguration address way back. i guess it resonates with his base, it 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natural thing to say about our system. we have the moment you describe just from 1964. let s take a look. i would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. let me remind you also that moderation and the pursuit of justice is no virtue. doris, 1964 is really instructive. i will also say, obviously, fdr, a sense of optimism, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. the band play in happy days are here again. ronald reagan, it s morning in america. i truly believe america s greatest days lie ahead. it is always the optimism that rules the day. still ahead, legendary e street band guitarist steve van zandt on his remarkable life and career in music and show business. business. keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. thanks brandon. with usps ground advantage®. it s hard to run a business on your own. make it easier on yourself. with shopify, you can have your inventory, payments, and customers in sync across all the places you sell. start your journey 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wedding band from the godfather. i heard it was really great. i don t remember a thing but that s what i heard. that was a look at the new documentary titled steve van zandt, disciple. the film follows the life of the musician and actor from his humble beginnings in new jersey to the apex of his one-of-a- kind career, performing along bruce pristine and james gandolfini in the sopranos. tuning is now, stevie van zandt, also the films director. i can t wait to see this. tell us why now, why did you decide this was the moment? he chased me for how long ? a long time, 2006 and years and years of trying to get, let me do this film. i m not comfortable being the center of attention. that is just a fact. i didn t even want to be in it at first. he s not in the early cut. you have to be in the movie. it would be hard to do without him in it. there s a lot of footage out there. anyway, they worked on it for two years before i agreed to be in it. i think, look, and and, we talked about what is the purpose of this thing and it is about the work. getting the work exposed as much as we can because, you know, that is one of the things i ve always had trouble balancing that art and commerce thing. can you explain how hard is it to explain the coordination of a band? you are in a big and, in a group of guys on stage in the synchronization of the shows always amaze me, you know what someone is going to do before they do it and you do your thing. well, we really have a long time. let s face it. that helps. a bit of esp goes on after a while. in the beginning, we had to be really good before we even got in the business. we had to be good life. that really, we had very high standards, growing up in the 60s. we had to compare ourselves to the beatles and the rolling stones and the who, very high standards. a lot of history, i think, bill got into it in the film. tell us exactly that. what are some of the things we will see, people who know stevie van zandt from the states or the screen, what are they going to see, what are they going to learn from this film ? telling them the whole breath and scope of the work and career and love of rock n roll is interesting. i think people may know him from television, from his acting, or they may know him for his music but they don t know he had the first branded satellite radio station, the first streaming television show. was a producer and writer and director. they may not know that the way, the things he does for education and they may not know his record label. there s so much to stevie van zandt beyond that music and we also get to expose the story of his amazing music, his friendship with bruce, his beautiful love story with his wife. he sees all thing. and then south africa. people may not know that silvio dante helped free nelson mandela and end apartheid. it is a pretty good resume. did you ever think from watertown, massachusetts to where you are today, the envelope you had to shoot through in terms of fate and lack is incredibly small. how often do you think about that ? about every hour. no doubt, we are the luckiest generation ever and i am the luckiest guy in the luckiest generation. i m so grateful, first of all that somebody would have an interest in making a movie about me. that is incredible already. i am honored that bill and the guys really spent their time doing that. destiny plays a role. if my mother hadn t remarried, my father adopted me and brought me from boston to new jersey, you know, i would have never gotten into the new jersey scene. if david chase hadn t happened to be clicking around, he wouldn t see me in dr. rascals and i want to get that guy on my new tv show the sopranos. there s a lot of detail in my book and i think bill, bill was, the conversations we had, i haven t seen the film myself at ceramic just to see what happens. you haven t seen it ? that is all the time we have this weekend. we will see you tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. eastern for more morning joe. until 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