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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:00:00:30

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:00:39:00

>> there's something i always leave out. >> yeah. that's why i keep telling you -- we all know, okay? >> yeah. >> we all know what it is that you're leaving out, put it that way. i'm not here to like you or dislike you. i need you to be honest with the other guys in the group because they have been honest with you. are you going to do that? i respect you, no matter what you do, put it that way. >> coming up, the counselors finally hear what mefford has been hiding all these years. >> it was difficult for him to speak. >> and later, mefford puts it all on the line and reveals his secret to the group. >> quite the revelation. i was glad he felt comfortable enough with us and told us the truth. od pressure. that's why there's coricidin® hbp. it relieves cold symptoms

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:00:47:00

this week and decided that, you know what? this might be the time, especially on this one, because it's a big leap for me. i'm going to make a revelation today that -- that -- something that i've not shared with anybody other than diane and marcia and mike. >> it's been nearly 30 years since mefford committed his crime, but the burden of hiding the truth about what really happened that night is about to be lifted. >> we're left with eddie, jack and shawn, and you said you want to go first, shawn? >> i didn't write it down. >> just as he's about to come clean and share what he has been hiding, mefford surprises everyone.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:07:36:00

>> mefford's hesitation in talking about the man he terrorized and the visible cross-outs on his homework have again sparked the counsellor's curiosity. >> so out of -- on the crimes that you've committed, because it sounds like you have a whole slew of them, what about this one make you pick it, the one that you wanted to focus on in this group? >> because this is the very first one to where i actually brought -- encountered somebody and robbed him, physically overpowered him, tied him up and robbed him. >> well, it seems like for some reason this one really sticks with you. >> it did. >> and i'm just trying to figure out what was about this one that

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:07:24:00

bit, and everybody knows that this is our pole. this is the christian pole. this is our circle and our area. ♪ standing in the knee of grace ♪ >> praise the lord. >> mefford leans on his faith to get him through today's therapy session. this will be the first time he tells the group about his crime. >> they have to make a crime impact statement, and basically what that means is tell us what you did. you're going to start right off getting used to holding yourself accountable, acknowledging what you did, letting everybody else know what you did. who brought their homework? shawn? >> i -- i took the events that led up to the crime, right, and past the crime.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:07:54:00

acknowledge because of ramifications. crimes against children, crimes against women. i think that this takes a lot of time and a lot of acceptance of one's self, and if you've been keeping a secret for 20 years it's just hard to say it. >> the last person that i told this to, i ended up with two missing front teeth and a broke nose because he thought that he could treat me any way he wanted to. >> mefford served six years for the robbery and assault of his victim. he did his time and was released in 1986. six years later he committed another felony and was sentenced under the california three strikes law to 54 years to life. >> when i got arrested on this case, i realized just what a lonely life i led. i never let people close to me. i never formed relationships.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:07:14:00

done is hard in a place where the nature of your crime can get you killed. everyone in here is hiding something, but it's mefford's job to get inmates to confront one of the deadliest secrets of all. >> i'm going to teach a class of pre-release this morning on hiv hepatitis and sexually transmitted diseases. >> mefford is one of only a handful of convicts in solano trained to teach other inmates about infectious diseases. >> and this is about you guys learning how to be safe out there. get tested, get treated, get smart on it. on hiv >> the inmates in today's class have signed up to learn more about hepatitis "c" and hiv before their release dates. >> i always come in here for pre-release, hepatitis. >> it's mefford's job to give them the tools they need to remain uninfected by the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:07:52:00

shawn mefford is just about to tell the group what really happened the night he robbed and attacked a man. then asks our cameras to shut down while he finally reveals the full truth. >> yeah. i'd like the cameras off on this one. >> okay. >> yeah. but now in a private interview he's agreed to talk about the crime. >> it's haunted my soul for a lot of years. when i started this group, the particulars of the crime was my own business. for me there's a lot of issues as far as how i was brought up. my own thinking, and did i

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151129:07:22:00

mefford is no exception. >> it happened right out in the yard. whatever race you are, you're expected to be in the middle of it. so you can't do what you want to do. >> in prison, you never know who you can trust. so it's not safe to let your guard down. this attack is exactly the kind of brutal justice mefford avoids by not talking about his crime. >> like i told marcia and diane when i started this, if there's something really uncomfortable that i don't want to address, i'm not going to. >> mefford has to decide how much he wants to reveal and whether or not it's worth the risk in a place like solano.

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