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genuine. where a system that was, as i said, to not to investigate them. let me ask you about what all of this does to the legal order. in the wake of this report there was an investigator reporter saying they sanctioned threats against him if he reported on the attempts of intimidation. the united states basically some calling for sanctions against the icc, ignoring rules from the icj, if this was any other nation wouldn't there be more international outrage over these actions or is israel held to a different standard? >> reporter: i put would it in this way. no state is above the law. israel is not above the law.
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way to help his allies have been caught up in his legal troubles. the new york times reports trump team is creating a legal defense fund to cover some of the legal bills involving his up lawyers and associates. this is on top of trump's pac that has reportedly spent at least $20 million on legal bills for trump and others this year. let's welcome pulitzer prize investigator reporter and tax expert david cay johnston, he's also distinguished visiting spectator at syracuse's college of law, and wrote three books on trump himself, and former missouri senator claire mccaskill. we would not let her leave, so she is sticking around. senator, you're also a former prosecutor. here is what i need you to help me understand, these trump allies, i'm guessing, these individuals are people that the prosecution would like to flip on trump. is it not a massive conflict of interest that he's basically, like, yo, yo, yo, buddies, i'm gonna pay your legal bills. we're talking about potentially
president's son. my question is why was hunter paid a little smausmau small fortune to sit o burisma? what benefits did they expect to get? then vice president biden -- remember we saw the tape of this and i played it a lot during the trump/ukraine impeachment, i ididiocy of the left. was it s hours? oh, you are not getting the money. why would the vice president of the united states want a ukrainian prosecutor fired? now, according to investigator reporter, john solomon was investigating hunter and burisma for corruption. joe bragged in that tape, son of a b, to quote joe biden, he got them fired and ukraine got your
stephanie grisham told the committee that even if the secret service had approved, it trump would not have march the capital. saying quote, i just know him. he is afraid of people. but even one week later as we are still piecing together all the new information, there are a lot of unanswered legal questions. what does all mean for the doj, who else is implicated, and will donald trump finally be held to account? joining me now is david jolly, a former republican and a former republican congressman. charles coleman junior, civil rights attorney, msnbc legal analyst, and host of charles cohen podcast and -- political investigator reporter for the guardian. i want to start with you, you have been following this so closely, you've been able to give us all the insights following the january six committee. when you saw this treasure trove of information that was dropped today, did anything stand out to you? >> i think what stood out to me the most was the failing memories of these really
investigator reporter and bob woodward of the former president. some of it was played on cnn earlier today but what you'll hear tonight has never aired. from 2016 through 2020 woodward taped his conversations with the former president. he will be releasing all 20 of these conversations on the 25th of this month as an audio book titled the trump tapes which runs for more than eight hours. cnn has obtained a copy and what you'll hear tonight is striking. it speaks to who he was as president, who he is as a person and how completely intertwined the personal and presidential were for him and probably still are. something that's not just apparent in what he says but even more so in how he says it. something the printed word just can't fully convey. the conversations also speak directly to some of what the former president is now being investigated for. namely how he views classified material and a president's responsibility for safe guarding some of the countries deepest secrets and that's why these conversations which have never been heard
commission on state emergency community communications. is that the uvalde police was managing the 9-1-1 calls, and certainly everybody had access to them. so there is this tremendous cover-up. and the unwillingness to tell the truth. i think that it's in part, partial because of this tremendous waste of money that is happening along the border. the officers that are supposed to be down there, didn't actually go and breach that door. >> texas state senator, roland gutierrez, thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. >> thank you. >> and joining us now, tony pulaski, investigator reporter for the austin american-statesman. and guillermo, for the san antonio express news. he animal, it's your reporting that we were reading tonight, the city of uvalde. now very worried about civil lawsuits wrongful deaths 21 of those wrongful deaths, have every right to be filed as soon as possible. this could bankrupt all governing operations in that
that's what that mayor is doing. in uvalde. no one has been fired, and no one, no one, has had the decency to resign, after failing, failing, to protect the lives of children and teachers in an elementary school. joining us now, tony plohetski, investigator reporter from the austin american-statesman, and rialto, contrary, has staff -- san antonio express news and tony you broke the news about apparently i redondo being sworn in today. as a city council, what can you tell us about that? >> while i was arredondo increasingly curious about how this was all going to happen and frankly was suspicious that perhaps he would be sworn in in a private non public ceremony. and the reason i thought that is because the mayor has been
that is what the republican mayor of uvalde. can you imagine a real mayor anywhere in america, any democratic mayor in america, the mayor of new york, the mayor of boston, the mayor of houston, the mayor of dallas, any mayor? anywhere? in a real city being silent for a week? about the facts and the truth of what happens in a mass murder in the school, an elementary school in his city? that's what that mayor is doing. in uvalde. no one has been fired, and no one, no one, has had the decency to resign, after failing, failing, to protect the lives of children and teachers in an elementary school. joining us now, tony plohetski, investigator reporter from the austin american-statesman, and rialto, contrary, has staff --
dollar loan on trump tower comes to do it september! tiktok. he also owes 500 and $90 million and loans that will come do it within the next four years. more than half of which donald trump has personally guaranteed. meaning he is on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars if those loans are not paid. that could be a significant problem for the former president. now that his longtime accounting firm has essentially warned the world against lending world to trump, saying the ten years of financial statements they have prepared for him cannot be relied upon. so, what does this all mean for the immediate future of donald j trump and his business? joining us now is david, a investigator reporter within the new york times have done extensive reporting on trump's finances and business dealings. thank you for joining us tonight. >> no problem. so, trump's big loans start