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leader. "the new york times" just reported in the last 15 minutes or so that the whistle-blower detailed a series of actions. it reports michael atkinson, the inspector general reported as much as a briefing. he refused to say if it involved the president. atkinson said the complaint was credible and urgent. generally speaking whistle-blower complaints deemed as much must be turned over to congress. the office of the director of national intelligence reports that it does not have to turn this complaint over because it relates to somebody outside the intelligence community. specifically reportedly the president. let's go to jeffery cramer now. managing director of the berkeley research group and a former assistant attorney and prosecutor. good to see you. >> hi, shep. >> shepard: whistle blows sees things, hears things. decides that it's urgent.
items. it uses artificial intelligence to detect guns and knives. the attorney general says the technology is less invasive than facial recognition and driver license scanning because it doesn't identify people as just objects. critics say it could be an invasion of privacy and officials have not released enough information about it yet. let's bring in jeffery cramer a former federal prosecutor and assistant u.s. attorney. jeffery, you looked at both sides. you think this is an invasion of privacy? it's like you go through the airport, they run a scan on you, this is a little different with artificial intelligence. what is your take? >> you can make the comparison between what we do in going through an airport, this is slightly different but not a lot different than what law enforcement has already done in
let's go to jeffery cramer, former federal prosecutor, assistant attorney, now managing director at the berkeley research group. good afternoon. >> afternoon. >> shepard: this thing that would be of great interest here, he wasn't going to testify about anything of note anyway. he was just going to give anecdotes. he wasn't going to talk about the southern district stuff. he wasn't going to talk about a lot of things. >> you're right. substantively-wise, it wasn't going to amount to much other than get more theater. so the essence of what he was going to testify about wasn't going to educate the american public about what the president may or may not have done. the interesting part here is the president's comments that precipitated mr. cohen to feel threatened and not even to go in for that limited purpose. >> shepard: this notice that he feels threatened. so people understand, his lawyer, lanny davis, who many of you remember from president clinton, his lawyer, lanny davis, sent out a notice saying
congressional committee and if so, what is that? >> there's two ways to look at it. one, objectively, would a reasonable person feel threatened? the second part, the subject. was there -- did he feel threatened? the second part is yes. i was a prosecutor in new york and chicago over a dozen years. i've heard my fair share of people getting threatened in wiretaps not to testify. i have never seen it sent out to 50 million people before. >> shepard: this was a threat in your estimation? >> i think any reasonable person would have to view it as such. what else is it? if it's not a threat, what else is it when you say look out for the father-in-law? the president has known mr. cohen for ten years. maybe there is some substance there. that doesn't matter. why else would you say that but to stifle mr. cohen from testifying? >> shepard: if the goal was to keep mr. cohen from testifying or urge him not to strongly and now mr. cohen is not going to
guilty. i think what we'll see in the coming weeks are others that are going to be indicted for the same lies as cohen and we'll know or at least we should have some indication whether general flynn's cooperation will lead to other charges. >> shepard: jeffery cramer, thank you. >> thanks. >> shepard: coming up, today's final farewell in washington to president george h.w. bush. memories from those that knew him best. >> he recognized serving others enriched the giver soul. to us, his was the brightest of a thousand points of light.
hearing is now two weeks away. >> that's right. this filing is for an audience of one. judge sullivan who has pressed the special counsel on why flynn's sentencing was delayed four times after the guilty plea over a years ago. sullivan mandated the following month in february that all evidence be provided to the defense. sullivan has really taken a pretty hard line since. it's not clear how sullivan will respond to the redacted versions. it's in conflict with this idea of an open and transparent judicial process. >> shepard: thanks. jeffery cramer, former federal prosecutor, assistant u.s. attorney, currently the managing director at berkeley research group. good to see you. >> good afternoon. >> shepard: what did we learn here? >> we learned some things and still in the dark about others what we learned is that as a result of mr. flynn's
nervous night tonight. >> shepard: are you referring to donald trump jr. or others? >> donald trump jr. is one. that's a logical inference given what we know to date and mr. cohen's allocution. those questions would have been asked of donald jr. they may have been asked before on the written questions submitted to the president. they may have been asked and probably were of others in the trump organization. anybody that said january is when it stopped and no trip planned to russia, they're looking at an indictment square in the face right now. >> shepard: one more thing. the president said that michael cohen is weak and that he's lying. what would your experience be about a defendant in this position lying on this matter? >> you know, i saw that. it's hard to wrap your head around. that doesn't mean anything. in my experience as a prosecutor in near and here in chicago nor
sader, a developer with strong ties to putin that told the senate intelligence committee that he was like the enter merary, the go-to guy for the moscow real estate project. the very least, sader is a rush born real estate developer turned united states citizen and a guy that plays close to the edge. also an alleged fbi informant that has boasted about his ties to the russian president. in this 2015 e-mail to cohen, sader writes "buddy, our boy can become president of the u.s.a. and we can engineer it. i'll get all of putin's team to buy in on this. i will manage this process. there's no one on this trump that wants donald elected more than i do." the moscow real estate fell through and the president and cohen didn't go to moscow. the e-mails seem interesting to say the least, shep. >> shepard: catherine herridge reporting live from washington. let's go to jeffery cramer, former federal prosecutor, assistant u.s. attorney, now the