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now. he has to be careful about also emphasizing what his administration has done and is going to do. otherwise, it risks going too negative too early and is he clearly trying to push into the democracy angle where polls have indicated is he doing better than donald trump that's not so much other top tier issues like the economy and the inflation in democracy, that's why you see him hitting january 6th. that's why you see him hitting charlottesville and he is trying to paint trump as a threat and donald trump is, of course, responding that biden is a threat. >> gillian: so, juan, to that point, critics say that biden should not look backwards, he should not focus on the past. the reality is he is in this unique position where is he running against an opponent, trump, who already served as president. he has got a history. he has got a very long record for folks to consider. >> juan: louisville, this is interesting moment.
candidate. juan, you get to go first. >> juan: we have $100 on the candidate casino table. i put $100 on joe biden. i think that's a sure bet. republican side $80 on donald trump. $15 on nikki haley and i'm not ready to write off desantis. $5 on desantis. >> gillian: $5, $5 ain't nothing. loyola? >> did i something similar. 85 on crump. 5 on 12 on nikki haley and. >> i'm still not willing to count out desantis or haley gave them each $5. we will see what happens in iowa and new hampshire. >> we will. and iowa is just exactly 10 days away from today. a lot of the eyeballs going to be on what going on down there. we got three separate town halls with the candidates. coming up leading into the first iowa caucuses. coming up next a look at 15 years of bret baier right here at this anchor desk in a special version of "notable quotables."
power to do that, juan, real quick, please. >> they have the power to deport people and they are putting people. in fact, back and obama years, obama was called border and chief. but the question here is people have legitimate right to seek asylum under american law. and what you are seeing now in the senate, and again what public senators are taking a lead here is saying we need to rrereforms asylum laws. we need to change the rules. that is what we need. instead you get the ater and political outrage, and it is just, you know, what republicans in the house are going to do. >> martha: theater was 6 million people, that is quite a show. epic theater that we are seeing on the border. it is quite organic. the president said during the campaign, you should come here and so people have clearly lessened. and now you see the city's overflowing and it is being pushed into other states because now the cities are full. and turning people away as a crisis here with the president does have levers to deal with
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voters said yes. is biden in serious trouble, juan? >> juan: i don't think there's any way to put a positive spin on the numbers, it's not good news for the biden campaign. the caution here for people who would blow that up is that you don't see a corresponding bump with donald trump numbers with black voters, he's at the level he won in 2020 and a lot of those people that you are talking about, especially young people, i think that when you look at issues like abortion, climate change, if they are asked about trump, it's unlikely that they are going to go there. they are part of a larger american cohort that is saying you know, we wish these two guys were not running. we would like someone else. we are looking for independent in the general poll that we just are citing here, it's something like, you know, biden gets 37 but trump gets 39%.
shrinking support in traditional democratic territory. that is according to the first poll of 2024, finds biden trailing former president trump when it comes to minority and young voters. groups that backed biden in 2020. juan williams, jason chaffetz, gentlemen, happy new year to you. juan, i don't know -- i don't quite know juan how jolly it is, though, let's put the numbers up on the screen from the latest u.s.a. suffolk news poll. biden voter support among african americans for biden, 63%. back in 2020 it was 87%. hispanic voters would vote trump 39-34, biden had him 65 to 32, and would you back a third party candidate, 20%, one out of five black voters said yes, a little more than one out of five young
competition of 2024, and november is going to be here before you know it. juan, jason, great to talk to you. thanks for kicking us off with the first political panel of 2024. appreciate it. >> gillian: famous hollywood actor in a violent brawl on the streets of l.a. details for you next. and they don't even have to be identical! one pair can be practical and sturdy, while the other pair is super stylish and wildly good-looking. (♪) ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand.
team could file challenges as soon as today. john. >> john: rich edson from the latest in d.c. thank you very much. more on this coming up with bob cusack and taking up with juan and jason as well. >> gillian: big question is whether the re-election team for trump will convert the legal challenges into new political fodder going forward. >> john: when you take a look at the polls, biden seems to shoot himself full of holes and trump is getting a lot of sympathy for unelected officials trying to take him out instead of letting the people decide. dynamic going into the election year is incredible. >> gillian: it is interesting is the first adjective to jumps to mind, john. and border, chaos left behind. the month of december recorded the first time in history cbp encountered over 300,000 people. this comes as hundreds of migrants travelling to new york