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loyalty, new hampshire voters are fiercely independent. exactly the kind of demographic nikki haley has so far excelled with. so, what sort of finished as she need in iowa to push her through new hampshire, and then beyond? and if he does well enough, what does ron desantis do? as of now, the florida governor said he's headed south, after iowa, away from new hampshire. joining us now from manchester is nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster. manchester new hampshire. shaq, what are you hearing from folks there? >> hi there katie. well you know, i'm hearing something that is sometimes a little bit hard for new hampshire voters, and elected officials to admit. and it is, what happens in iowa will determine, will influence how voters here in new hampshire view these candidates, especially those candidates who are not named donald trump. would you continue to hear is that an over performance by nikki haley or ron desantis in iowa could help establish,
have a good ground game in the other states, it is all about organization. and the campaign is very confident that they have that. never back down, saying that they knocked on nearly 1 million doors here on iowa, 3 million total across new hampshire and south carolina as well. and so, that's something they hope to hinge on going forward. the campaign also really riding on the endorsements from iowa governor kim reynolds, as well as the religious conservative leader, here bob vander plaats. and that is something that they are hoping will be reflected in other states as well. but i think like you mentioned, they are really honing in on the fact that nikki haley is their true competitor, in terms of needing to be in second place. and that is why we have learned that the campaign is actually sending ron desantis to south carolina immediately after the iowa caucus, before he goes to new hampshire to finish out that primary, katie. >> it is symbolic. president biden, who was a campaign candidate at the time, went from iowa to south carolina. we all know how that turned out.
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million doors here on iowa, -- across new hampshire and south carolina as well. and so, that's something we hope to hinge on going forward. the campaign also really riding on the endorsements from iowa governor kim reynolds, as well as the religious conservative leader, here bob vander plaats. and that is something that they are hoping will be reflected in other states as well. but i think like you mentioned, they are really honing in on the fact that nikki haley is their true competitor, in terms of needing to be in second place. and that is why we have learned that the campaign is actually sending ron desantis to south carolina immediately after the iowa caucus, before he goes to new hampshire to finish out that primary, katie. >> it is symbolic. president biden, who is a campaign candidate at the time, wet from iowa to south carolina. we all know how that turned out. it turned out well for. more of ali and vaughn -- joining us now -- chief politics reporter -- . is also an msnbc political contributor. so brynn, you are an iowan, you live and breathe iowa. you know cold weather, you've
last week, in sioux center rural community in the northwestern part of the state. it was about 20 degrees ahead of an afternoon rally outside, and there were several hundred folks that were waiting for hours for him. so this is a place that has proven, over the course of the last years, they are willing to show up for him. the biggest test will be this upcoming monday night, katie. >> all right, so, let's talk about nikki haley. what does she need from iowa to give her a boost going in to new hampshire, where she feels decently strong? >> look, the best-case scenario for nikki haley is a strong second place finish. because she recognizes that in order to make it an actual one-on-one race with donald trump, she has to first get ron desantis out of the way. so my understanding of that haley campaign ethos is, here in iowa, -- in fact, they are responding to it just in the past few minutes, saying in part that this poll shows the haley momentum continues to grow. they add though, they take nothing for granted. an they note the fact that cold weather does make it difficult.
through. but, i would argue that this hasn't been tried. there has been this mythology that you can separate trump from trump's voters, by just doing the character hits. and that's really all desantis have done, is the character hits. but for many, and katie, you know this better than most, you covered the beginning of this movement. for many, the character flaws were a feature, not a bug. so, you've got to make a stronger case. i was listening to a terrific, the folks at the bulwark today, a focus group of republicans in iowa, and i was listening to one of their podcasts where they were analyzing it. and, some of the criticism that these trump supporters were giving to desantis was really, well, he didn't really fight back. well, only in the last couple of weeks have i seen ron desantis actually start to make
it's all in the hands of the voters. >> everybody, make sure you get out and vote. >> to actually get the candidate that the people wanted. >> who will iowa push forward? and who will ios end packing? tonight, the much awaited final poll from the storied and celebrated des moines register. will there be a surprise upset? steve kornacki is at the big board. or a weather wildcard. -- our reporters are in the, cold and getting colder iowa. this is how to win, 2024. >> good to be with you, i'm katie -- . could we be at the beginning of the end of the gop race for president? or, will a power greater than politics intervene? the des moines register just released its final poll before monday's caucus. and while donald trump holds a historic lead, there is some slippage in his support, something he probably wanted to address in person today, but
proven, over the course of the last years, they are willing to show up from. the biggest test will be this upcoming wendy knight, katie. >> all right, so, let's talk about nikki haley. what does she need from iowa to give her a boost going in to new hampshire, where she feels decently strong? >> look, the best-case scenario for nikki haley is a strong second place finish. because she recognizes that order to make it an actual one-on-one race with donald trump, she has to first get ron desantis out of the way. so my understanding of that nikki haley ethos is, here in iowa, -- in fact, they are responding to it just in the past few minutes, saying in part that this poll shows the haley momentum continues to grow. they add though, they take nothing for granted. and they note the fact that cold weather does make it difficult. but in my conversatioh the campaign, they trust their turnout operation, they trust the loyalty of their voters here, and they trust that is going to allow them to finish strong in a. second place position. they know that this is donald trump's state to loose, and that is why we are watching
voters. they are afraid of, i think more importantly, alienating conservative media, and of course conservative media is afraid to talk about an alternative to trump, for alienating trump supporters. it seems a bit circular, right. as you start talking it through. but, i would argue that this hasn't been tried. there has been this mythology that you can separate trump from trump's voters, by just doing the character -- and that's really all desantis have done, is the character -- . but for many, and katie, you know this better than most, you covered the beginning of this movement. for many, the character flaws were a feature, not a bug. so, you've got to make a stronger case. i was listening to a terrific, the folks at the bulwark today focus group of republicans in iowa, and i was listening to one of their podcasts where they were analyzing it. and, some of the criticism that