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around is it too late for desantis? >> it's not too late. six months to iowa, that's enough time -- candidates in the past have had staff shakeups. never a good thing when your donors are trying to get your campaign manager fired, peter. >> yeah, you are exactly right on. that kimberly, rhonda scent is faces significant challenges here. so much so that there are now some, including the murdochs, who are starting to circle a name on the map that is not too far from washington d.c., glenn youngkin. as someone they maybe think would be a trump light, someone who could win but has some good policies that they like. >> yeah, glenn youngkin has been lurking on the sidelines for a while now. exactly for the reasons you say, he could potentially have a broader appeal among republicans than someone like ron desantis, who seems to be running to the right of donald trump. but again, it is a long ways off. desantis had the position to
can republicans decide that mr. trump might have too much baggage with the potential for three indictments? is this a sign of a motion -- erosion? >> so far there's been science with weariness from trump. he could finish and have a double digit lean all the places that matter. now, the other is his opponents are rolling up their criticism just the slightest bit. we sat down with -- that usa today. he said on one hand he would not defend trump's behavior, on the other hand he said if elected president, he would pardon trump. that underscores a dilemma that the candidates face. >> susan, you make a good point. kimberly, i want you to weigh in on this because the challenge for these candidates is that they don't want to tell those trump supporters that it shouldn't be that. so they don't upset the borders. they want to be in the and hard place voter.
boston globe column this, kimberly -- susan page. philip, let me start with. you we understand that mr. trump was calling his allies on the hill yesterday. kevin mccarthy, as he has done in the past, in essence, calling for their loyalty. plotting them to be public in defending him? >> yeah, that is right, peter. this is a familiar playbook for trump as he is matches saying -- to secure the outspoken advocacy from his allies on congress. and also the republican party. we also see him try to raise money and try to use this moment where we are waiting for federal charges from the justice department to boost his standing in the presidential race. >> susan, a new poll out of new hampshire shows donald trump's lead may be shrinking amongst primary republican voters there. this is a 37%. rhonda scent is, according to this, poll is at 23%. i get that it's just a poll but
come out as a presumptive second runner. and that is always something that is difficult. when you have someone like trump, who is essentially taking the place of an incumbent on that side. >> this is a smart panel, kimberly, philip rucker's, all my friends. i'm proud to say thank you for being with us here. and next, back focus, why a meeting in the oval office before the january 6th riots might be a major focus of the special counsel's office. you are watching intermission reports, only on msnbc. reports, only on msnbc. if you know... you know it's pantene.
national television. this is really serious. the fact that our competitors in this space on cable news barely showed a minute of what happened let alone going wall-to-wall i think is pretty disgraceful. if it were hunter-trump they would have been wall-to-wall. >> ziegler in his opening statements we should point out said that he came forward and said i am a democrat and i am a gay man. he put it out there for everybody's consideration. kimberly, did the witnesses do a good job today of tying hunter biden's crimes, to which he -- some of them he has pleaded guilty now, directly to his father, to president biden? >> they don't really have evidence of that not so much. here's the complaint they weren't allowed to follow it. they have suspicions. they say they were many leads that would have potentially have led to the president but that time and again both the prosecutors and at times the fbi
story. >> ainsley: precious children are getting trafficked. when you see that movie and hear this personal story and we've interviewed mr. ballard and jim plays him. he said, this is real, this is happening, it breaks your heart. there are organizations, where you can donate and churches will help men like ballard who go rescue precious children so they don't have to get r-a-p-e-d everyday by some man that picks them out of a crowd. >> steve: trending with you and catina said "sound of freedom" will wake up people to travesty of trafficking children. please keep this story a top priority, maybe congress will, too. >> brian: a woman voice should read this. >> ainsley: kimberly, we are all responsible to watch our
in. >> martha: might agree with you there. >> yeah, but you know what? i have thought, we had someone running the fbi that is actually an fbi agent. that has the experience. enough of the lawyer types and good at dodging the questions in the washington and playing the political game. we need someone that understands the work and fbi trust has their backs. >> martha: kimberly, great piece, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> martha: meet the candidates is out now and spoke with ramaswamy about his strategy and moving up in the polls and in third place, that is available now at foxnewspodcast.com. thanks for being with us on this friday, july 14. the story goes on and download that and see you back here on monday. stay tuned because your world
bidens? >> absolutely not. >> martha: that's the short version, here's what house speaker kevin mccarthy told me about the response yesterday, watch. >> he's not credible with the answer and i think that his testimony shows that the fbi is broken under his leadership. i am not talking about the rank and file agents doing their job every day. >> martha: columnist wrote... kimberly is also fox news contributor and book biden malaise. kimberly, great to have you with us. and you started this piece with the same point that kevin mccarthy and christopher wray, came out and we have so many people that do good work. no one disagrees and what we expect from the fbi but point out that's not really the issue. >> no, that's right and if you
i want to put the graph up how close montpelier came from catastrophe. the wrightsville dam, almost rose to a level it was just a foot below dumping into the spillway, which would have taken a lot of water through the town. how much concern, kimberly, was there there in the capital for this dam overflowing and potentially catastrophically coming apart? >> thanks so much for having me and us and we just want to say before we say what we are seeing, we want to say a shout out to thank governor, all the public officials who are really taking this seriously and the white water rescue teams who had to help evacuate people out of montpelier downtown. and there was a huge concern about this dam breaking yesterday because we had already had all of this flooding and luckily the dam situation seems