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Katy Tur Reports

race if he doesn't win in iowa f he doesn't come in second in iowa? >> i think it depends on how bad the third place. obviously he says not. i don't think you can take what a candidate says on election day about their future plans with much more than a grain of salt. i don't know how he doesn't do anything that play a spoiler or isn't wasting time and money. since he staked the whole thing on iowa for months now. you become dubious when at the last minute you say, i can't finish third if it's a strong third. so i don't think he should stay. who knows what he will actually do. >> for once he has been saying he will win iowa. he's calling himself now the underdog, that he's going to do well in iowa. the change in the rhetoric tells you something. mark leibovich, ali vitali, shaq brewster, thank you very much. what new hampshire voters say they will do to keep donald

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process. you have democrats here saying, i'm still willing to write him in, or meddling in the republican primary process, as a way to be involved. >> reporter: democrats are really angry about them getting skipped in this primary season, and it's starting in south carolina. don't discount that anger that democrats are feeling toward president biden right now. mark, i want to talk about nikki haley's strategy here. one of the lines we keep hearing her say is that chaos follows donald trump. and to some, that can sound like her not directly attacking him, not really going after him. but i was talking to our embed here in new hampshire who has been living here now six months, and she said that is a liberia that she hears over and over again from new hampshire voters about why they're considering nikki haley. both from voters who are looking for somebody new because they don't like donald trump any longer, and from voters who do like donald trump but have to concede that, yes, chaos does follow him. >> yeah, i mean, look, i think that it's clearly something she

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on that list. and voters in this notoriously independent state tell me they are just waiting for her to prove that she can do it. so can she? if you add chris christie's support to hers here in new hampshire, the math is close. we have the narrow paths you could follow out of the granite state with the atlantic's mark leibovich, but before she goes anywhere, she's got to make it through tonight's caucus where it is 0 degrees and getting colder. joining us now from des moines, iowa, is nbc news correspondent ali vitali, staff writer at the atlantic and msnbc political contributor, mark leibovich, and here on set with me is nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster. ali, i'm so happy to see you inside on this very very cold day. tell me what nikki haley is doing in the last moments before this caucus tonight? >> she's making the rounds still, katy.

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Alex Wagner Tonight

her to loathing her. trump will transform his attitude toward her from benign disdain to angry contempt. she will be exposed by republican voters for how little support she actually has. in short, when he new hampshire ends her career in the trump republican party. cheney now, the staff writer at the atlantic and author of for your servitude, don trump's washington the price of submission. mark, you have been writing amazing analysis at the haley campaign, which we are gonna get to momentarily but i do wonder what you think about this moment for nikki haley and whether it is the best of time or might actually be the worst of times? >> well, i usually agree very much with jonathan v. last. he's brilliant. i don't agree with this take at all. if she wants to be president xi needs new hampshire. she needs to do well they are preferably wind so that she can have a chance in south

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Alex Wagner Tonight

she's around much longer, she will just completely either disassemble or make no sense whatsoever. and the answer about the civil war which didn't include savory is sort of a perfect example of. this she gets this very basic question immediately just doesn't know what to do because slavery is considered a radical position to take against in today's republican party. it became a real ban story for her. >> well, unbelievably, mark leibovich, there are three days until iowa and ten days to new hampshire. here we go, my friend. buckle up. thank you for your time. >> it will be fine. i'm not in iowa, but i will be in new hampshire. i will see you next week. >> coming up, the u.s. launches new strikes against houthi targets in yemen for a second straight evening. we will have a live report from the pentagon. first, joe biden gets out of the white house to tout a very important message in pennsylvania. that's next. pennsylvania that's next. that's next. >>

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author of for your servitude, don trump's washington the price of submission. mark, you have been writing amazing analysis at the haley campaign, which we are gonna get to momentarily but i do wonder what you think about this moment for nikki haley and whether it is the best of time or might actually be the worst of times? >> well, i usually agree very much with jonathan v. last. he's brilliant. i don't agree with this take at all. if she wants to be president xi needs new hampshire. she needs to do well they are preferably wind so that she can have a chance in south carolina. if she does win new hampshire, it will get real ugly real fast. he's under present right about. that when you combine the inherent racism and sexism impulse that trump world is going to go to immediately with the sort of south carolina rough-and-tumble politicking tradition which she knows quite well, but i'm not sure, i mean

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is sort of a perfect example of. this she gets this very basic question immediately just doesn't know what to do because slavery is considered a radical position to take against in today's republican party. it became a real bad story for her. >> well, unbelievably, mark leibovich, there are three days until iowa and ten days to new hampshire. here we go, my friend. buckle up. thank you for your time. >> it will be fine. i'm not in iowa, but i will be in new hampshire. i will see you next week. >> coming up, the u.s. launches new strikes against houthi targets in yemen for a second straight evening. we will have a live report from the pentagon. first, joe biden gets out of the white house to tout a very important message in pennsylvania. that's next. when you have chronic kidney disease... ...there are places you'd like to be. like here. and here.

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Did a Young Democratic Activist in 1968 Pave the Way for Donald Trump?

Geoffrey Cowan led a reform effort that did away with ‘smoke-filled rooms.’ But he worries that he opened the door to extremists like Trump.

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Alex Witt Reports

state officials to overturn the election results. these statements contradicting trump's moves in the months after the election when he insisted the election was a long way from over, and filed lawsuits contesting the results as a candidate, and not at the outgoing president. joining me now is atlantic staff writer and msnbc political contributor, mark leibovich. i was going to have you on, mark. so, this appears to be some kind of new maneuver by trump, because he's now saying, i wasn't a candide ymore after the 2020 election, and in challenging the results, i was doing my job as president to ensure elections are fair. so, what do you make about this? about-face? >> well, it is a pivot, i guess. it's a subtle pivot, but it means nothing, certainly, in the legal context, i don't think. i can't imagine a judge being swayed by that. it's also kind of, you know, defies credulity when you have someone who's basically been

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its then nikki haley. you know, i think kari lake's problem is she's never been elected. at least, statewide, anywhere, including in arizona, obviously. so, she would have a long way to go. i also think she has worked extremely hard to sort of check the sycophancy box that would be the number one require for someone to be his running mate. >> let's go to that atlantic article now, with analysis of nikki haley's campaign. there is new iowa polling, and it shows for the first time, with a pretty clear lead over desantis, but despite he least pledged to tell hard truth, you're right, mark, when it comes to speaking the hardest truth of all, about trump, haley's words fall feebly short. here's some of what she said at this week's debate, where trump was, of course, notably absent. >> i think he was the right president at the right time. i agree with a lot of his policies, but his way is not my way. i don't have vengeance. i don't have vendettas. i don't take things personally. for me, it's very much about no

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