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that kelly was supposed to be the adult in the room managing a clearly mercurial president trump. it was clear from the beginning that president trump didn't like the idea of being managed and it didn't quite fit his style. and whether or not this sort of more military attitude he was serving a commander in chief, that there was a chain of command, and that when the president made a decision, it was his job to implement it, whether he agreed with it or not, that may not have served either kelly or the president very well. >> all right, molly o'toole, terrific reporting. mick mulvaney signaled perhaps he'll take a different approach. much more in 2019 for sure. molly o'toole, thank you very much. coming up, it sounds like something straight out of a spy thriller. why was an ex-russian spy reportedly pressuring paul manafort to pay back billions during the 2016 campaign? but first, this programming note, on new year's day, cnn will premiere a new film about the life and work of comedian
now at this holiday season for the troops which is you're out there. you're doing your job. keep doing your job. when we have something different to tell you, we will. they know that the troops, the rank and file are very uncertain right now, feeling some anxiety about what has been happening and there's very much an effort to calm that down. >> jim mattis, always the historian. of course, he'd remind us. i forgot that the crossing of the delaware was on christmas day. >> your sources are telling you that mattis based on his experience had strongly-held views on u.s. national security priorities. that clashed with the president, is that right? >> well, that is right. i mean, mattis has his world view. he is always someone as a student of history who plays the long game. mr. trump, perhaps much more mercurial, making more instant decisions as your own reporting is showing and that is something that simply came to a parting of the ways in jim mattis' view and
you will be rewarded. and it's not just flynn. you look at george papadopoulos, as well. he has been richly rewarded with very little penalty. and so that's a very good point. the president, as we know, is mercurial. you can't really depend on him to pardon someone like mueller. there is a structure in place. >> papadopoulos cooperated, pleaded guilty, two weeks in jail. there is much more we're following, including the very emotional tributes to the late president, george h.w. bush, and a very moving state funeral. but there were also some tensions that were there for president trump and his predecessors. it was a no-brainer. i switched to geico and saved hundreds. that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. the geico app makes it easy to manage my policy. i can pay my bill, add a new driver, or even file a claim. woo, hey now! that's a win-win.
having bad policy ideas or being unable to learn things quickly is worrying, that you would want somebody more capable in the job. but there are suggestions that it's worse than that. at one point you say the president is emotionally overwrought, mercurial and unpredictable. i worry in particular about the emotionally overwrought part of it. do you mean by that he is out of control? >> no. i mean by when confronted with evidence. for instance, there is a scene in the book where he starts talking about the world trade organization, which is an organization that actually gives us great leverage if is unfair trade practice in the world. and he said this is the worst organization in the world and the advisers who are experts in there saying no. and trump says, well, we lose our cases there. and they bring out the document, no, we win 85.7% of the cases, not just 85%, but 85.7.
the president what we've done, that's why we've had 70 years of peace. and the president's angry about the cost and angry about this old order that he inherited. you know, he is a disrupter and so forth. but you can't go into the house and break all the furniture and turn it over if you're going to have to live there. >> i feel like as a citizen, i am less worried about a president who is wrong than i am worried about a president who is sort of wrong in the head. and i don't mean to say that in a snarky way. the president having -- being ignorant about certain things or having bad policy ideas or being unable to learn things quickly is worrying, that you would want somebody more capable in the job. but there are suggestions that it's worse than that. at one point you say the president is emotionally overwrought, mercurial and unpredictable.
says many of them. many officials and appointees believe the same way and they protecting the country from trump like he is a child. >> greg: there's two points to make. one that's specific and one that's general. in this editorial, we want the administration to succeed they say because he's already made america a safer and more prosperous -- what more do you want than that? because you don't like his personality? we have already made america safer and more prosperous. what do you want? you just prove the deep state, you moron. i have been a boss. i understand the way people talk about bosses. bosses are mercurial, demanding, often infantile. >> jesse: we have one of the greatest bosses. >> greg: i would extend this to woodward's book as well. let's say you head cabbage for lunch, jesse. i said you're going to regret that. woodward writes "the gutfeld
pollster said to us very quietly that july actually was a horrendous month for republicans, and then august wasn't a great month for house republicans because trump kept disrupting the messaging. first week of september, not a good time to be a house republican because trump keeps interrupting the messaging. >> a mercurial president means a mercurial eight weeks ahead of us or six weeks ahead. >> good luck planning a campaign. >> a virginia congressman put on the ballot, removed from the ballot. >> handed the democrats a house seat. >> might be enough. >> i don't even know where to begin, how to wrap this day up. but it did begin with the kavanaugh hearings, and woodward came out with a book. >> and michael capuano. >> and delaware senate, carper
this subject -- and remember, paul ryan, speaker of the house, he said when asked about president trump's comments at one point in the campaign they're the textbook definition of racism. >> you said -- >> mercurial. >> mexican american. david? >> so look. obviously pushed back. i don't believe that the president's racist and he says racially insensitive comments and remarks. i don't believe he's racist and to nina's point, this is a biggest conversation to have in america. right? these handful of completely whack job individuals are able to weasel their way on to the ballots under the republican mantra or label is horrific. >> do you think it's a coincidence all of them doing it now? >> i think that there's perhaps, you know, more of a feel that they can -- emboldened. not necessarily by the president but the rise of folks, ronald reagan once said i don't necessarily agree with them. they may agree with me. same situation here.
staff in what's the most mercurial and chaotic administration in recent history. so i think a lot of people consider that this is sort of his last command, that he still is very loyal to the commander in chief and so when he asked general kelly to come from dhs, where he was chief, to the white house he said i'm going to do this. >> and he also has evinced a lot of views on immigration. he made sort of an exception for tps and seemed to think people who've been here for tps for 20 years should stay. but his views on immigration are very hard line and he didn't back down from any of that including his criticisms of things like daca, right? >> yeah, joy, it was really interesting. he was sort of nuanced. and that's what i really appreciated, having 25 minutes with him to sort of -- to work through some of these. for instance, he said on the one hand, you know, we -- not all immigrants who come across the border illegally are criminals and are bad people and are ms-13, and so he was -- that's definitely sort of more moderate than what you hear from this extreme rhetoric from the
amorphosed into the chief of staff in what's the most mercurial and chaotic administration in recent history. so i think a lot of people consider that this is sort of his last command, that he still is very loyal to the commander in chief and so when he asked general kelly to come from dhs, where he was chief, to the white house he said i'm going to do this. >> and he also has evinced a lot of views on immigration. he made sort of an exception for tps and seemed to think people who've been here for tps for 20 years should stay. but his views on immigration are very hard line and he didn't back down tr any of that including his criticisms of things like daca, right? ? yeah, joy, it was really interesting. he was sort of nuanced. and that's what i really appreciated, having 25 minutes with him to sort of -- to work through some of these. for instance, he said on the one hand, you know, we -- not all immigrants who come across the border illegally are criminals and are bad people and are