A recap of the day s news. he did, and they weren t taken o ut of campaign finance, that s a big thing. that s much bigger thing. did they come out of the campaign? is they didn t come out of the campai campaign. they came from me. it isn t even a campaign violation. what the president appears to be claiming there is completely untrue, which would mean it was false and a lie. you can t duck campaign finance laws simply by paying out of your own pocket. that s a crime. a crime that michael cohen pleaded guilty to yesterday. a crime cohen says he committed at the direction of donald trump. here s what he said in if court yesterday. and i quote, on or about the summer of 2016,court yesterday. and i quote, on or about the summer of 2016, in coordination with and at the direction of a candidate for federal office, i and the ceo of a media company at the request of the candidate worked together to keep an individual with information that would have harmful to the candidate and to the campaign from publicly disclosing this information. so michael cohen is referring there to paying for the rights to karen mcdougal s story. and there s more. this is a quote. on or about october of 2016, in coordination with and at the direction of the same candidate, i arranged to make a payment to a second individual with information that would be harmful to the candidate and to the campaign to keep the individual from disclosing the information. that s a reference to the hush money payment to stormy daniels. and if that is not clear enough, there s this. the judge asking, mr. cohen, when you took all of these acts that you described, did you know that what you were doing was wrong and illegal? cohen answering, yes, your honor. and as to the president s claim he only knew about the payments later on, his own words prove that that s a lie. listen to trump and michael cohen discussing payment to silence karen mcdougal. correct. so i m all over that. and i spoke to allan about it. when it comes time to the financing which will be listen, what financing? we ll have to pay pay with cash. no, no, no, no, i got but i didn t know beforehand even though i discussed with with my attorney and fixer beforehand. confronted with the fact that trump is heard on tape discussing the payment before it was made, sarah sanders simply refused to answer the question from cnn s kaitlan collins. in his interview today the president said he found out about those payments michael cohen made later on, but he s on tape discussing how to make one of the payments with michael cohen. so before the payment was made. so how do you explain that? once again, identi ve commenn this pretty ex-tense tentensiv. the president did nothing wrong, there are no charges against him, there s to collusion. for anything beyond that, i would refer you to the president s outside counsel. didn t he just say he didn t know about it them there s a tape of him during, before it happened, discussing it? okay. again, michael cohen is alleging that trump committed a crime. and directing cohen to pay to silence women to claim that they had affairs with trump, paying them in order to influence the election. that is collusion. then you might think that republican lawmakers would feel compelled to speak out in the face of all of this. actually, it probably won t surprise you at all to hear that the response from the president s own party is pretty much this. crickets. deafening silence. nothing. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell completely silent. majority whip john cornyn? i don t know the facts. don t know the facts. house speaker paul ryan punting to his spokesperson who said, we need more information than is currently available at this point. and then there s this from the longest serving living senator, orrin hatch. naturally, it makes you very concerned, but, you know, the president shouldn t be held responsible for the actions of people that he s trusted. again, the point here is that michael cohen in his allocution said that donald trump directed him to make the illegal payments. we can and should hold the president responsible for that. it may not be much of a surprise, though, that republicans don t want to do that, but the president has got to be wondering tonight what will happen if a blue wave crashes over capitol hill come november? let s discuss. i want to bring in now cnn white house correspondent kaitlan collins who asked that question. she s with us. also jonathan, the new york magazine and susan hennessey, cnn national security and legal analyst. good evening to all of you. kaitlan, you were there today. you asked the question to sarah sanders. what s the mood inside the white house tonight? don, you saw it there best, the white house is having a lot of trouble mounting a defense in response to the claims made by michael cohen. essentially saying what they said in the past, that the president did nothing wrong, these charges aren t against him and then saying there is no collusion even though that s unrelated to what michael cohen said when he was in a new york courtroom yesterday. so we re seeing a lot of struggle here on behalf of the white house, but a lot of that comes because of things the own president has said in the past to his press secretaries including sarah sanders, like when he told her he had no knowledge of those payments about stormy daniels. something that she said definitively from the podium here in march citing a conversation that she had with the president and then, of course, we found out later on from rudy giuliani that the president did, in fact, know about it. but, don, what we know is the mood inside this west wing, it goes two ways. a, we know the president is in a bad mood. he doesn t like that this happened. he wasn t expecting michael cohen to make that statement in court yesterday. when his lead attorney, rudy giuliani, is currently out of the country. that s something that s irking the president. as far as those who work in the west wing, they don t know how to react to this because, of course, they don t know what the president says is correct or if he s right when he says he didn t direct michael cohen to make those payments. but also, they ve weathered storms like this before. back with rob porter in the security clearances. with the trump tower meeting. with the stormy daniels payment revelations. they don t know if this is a story that s going to be the one that breaks the camel s back, so they re kind of sitting back waiting to see what it is that s going to happen here. let s bring jonathan chate in. jonathan, after denying knowledge of this hush money, these hush money payments in april, president trump now says he did know about them. i can t keep it straight. whether he knew or didn t know, but he didn t know about them then added later on. did he do himself any favors today? no, because his admission was actually a confession. he trieded to say, well, it only would have mattered if the much came out of the campaign but he actually got it totally backwards. the problem, the violation, was that he took the money from the trump organization and donated it to the campaign. that s the illegally and he just misdescribed the law, so i think he thinks he was doing himself a favor, but he was actually hurting himself. yeah. susan, so, by saying on fox, by the way, that he knew about the payments, is he creating even more legal problems for himself? i think potentially he is. look, at this point, you know, the question of whether or not the president didn t know, i think it s sort of it strains belief, right, not only was michael cohen willing to say this under oath, you know, he has tapes that essentially corroborate his account. it s also significant that prosecutors allowed him to say this in court during his allocution. prosecutors would not and could not have allowed michael cohen to make the statement which they would have coordinated in advance unless they had reason too believe it was true. so the notion here that we re not sure whether or not the president was aware or not, you know, i think it s relatively apparent at this point. you know, to the point that jonathan made, i do think the president may have gotten himself into additional legal trouble in that interview today. he appears to be confused about the law. he s emphasizing that campaign funds were not used for these payments. however, if campaign funds were used, he actually might have been okay. so long as they were reported. the actual violation here is that a private individual and a corporation made illegal campaign funds, so once again, i don t know if he s relying on bad legal counsel or simply doesn t understand what they ve explained to him, but i don t think he s doing himself any favors at aull. i m seeing head nods in agreement from jonathan and kaitlan. this is a new report by the new york times saen the report says trump and his lawyer, rudy giuliani, have discussed the potential political repercussions of pardoning paul manafort. giuliani tells the times that trump thinks manafort has been horribly treated. what are your thoughts on this one? we know president trump is enamored with the pardon power. this is one of the powers in which trump does get to act like a king, he s sort of above the law. this is his exclusive power. i think he is concerned about paul manafort cooperating from this point forward. that verdict was just sort of the beginning for manafort. he s facing an entirely different trial that s coming up here in washington, d.c., in september. you know, and i think what we re seeing through these statements is trump sort of testing the waters. seeing if he can talk about manafort in sympathetic terms, what kind of pushback he s going to get from congressional republicans essentially to see whether or not he s going to get away with it. what we ve seen in response has been pretty much nothing. some sort of tsk, tsking and shrugs from republicans but not drawing a line around trump pardoning individuals directly implicated in this investigation. i have to tell you, vieveryo trying to figure it out. the times is reporting, no, they re not going to do it. they talked about it but he s not considering it. he told ainsley airhart of fox, well, there s a possibility. there is a disconnect there, kaitlan, with the reporting on this. reporter: there is. that s what rudy giuliani says. his one account of this. then it s clear here s what the president is saying during an interview on the white house grounds today. and of course, that also comes after sarah sanders in the briefing room today said there had been no discussion that she was aware of if a potential pardon for paul manafort here. of course, the president, himself, all you have to do is look at his twitter feed, he s signaling that he could potentially pardon him. sem sem essentially saying he wasn t treated fairly by the justice system even though paul manafort got a jury, yeah, a trial by a jury of his peers, and even his own attorneys said they felt that was a fair trial that he received over the last few weeks but the president is doubting the justice system today and signaling to paul manafort saying that at least he didn t break calling him a brave man. obviously a stark contrast to what he thinks michael cohen has done. but it does, don, go to show you what the president is saying to his own staff including sarah sanders, that no, he s never considered pardoning paul manafort. what he s saying to his legal team, his lead attorney, rudy giuliani, and what he is saying to a cable news host about potentially pardoning his former campaign chairman. oh, boy. all right. can i add a point to this? yeah, quickly because i want to get to michael cohen. there s new information. go ahead, john. the big point is it s wildly improper for the president to be floating a parting of someone who could be testifying against his own criminal involvement. right. right. right. go on. yes. thank you. thank you. never considered a proper use of presidential power. all right. let s talk about this because within la when last we heard of the president speaking of michael cohen it was a flippant tweet this morning saying, you know, if you want to hire i m p paraphrasing here, a competent attorney, don t hire michael cohen. surprising that you would hear the president of the united states or see the president of the united states tweet something like that. but tonight, he is speaking about his relationship with michael cohen. listen. are you considering pardoning paul manafort? i have great respect for what he s done in terms of what he s gone through. you know, he worked for ronald reagan for years. he worked for bob dole. he worked, i guess his firm worked for mccain. he worked for many, many people. many, many years. and i would say what he did, some of the charges they threw against him, every consultant, every lobbyist in washington probably does. if you look at hillary clinton s person, you take a look at the people that work for hillary clinton, look at the crimes that clinton did. with the e-mails and she deletes 33,000 e-mails after she gets a issubpoena from congress and th justice department does nothing about it? and all of the other crimes that they ve done. okay. so that was about paul manafort. we have the michael cohen. that deserves so much fact checking in that i don t have three hours to do when it comes to the 33,000 e-mails and the crimes that have already been discussed. there were hearings held on all of this stuff. hillary clinton is the president in his head. and probably in the head of the folks who work for fox news. paul manafort was much worse than other lobbyists and the main point is he was working for russia. he was working to advance russian interests in other countries. he did it in ukraine, he does it other soviet republics and seems like he did the same thing in the united states. so why this obsession with hillary clinton and her e-mails, kaitlan? i mean, i guess it s a strategy on his part and on the part of his supporters because every time there s something wrong that s not explainable, that hurts the president, um, hillary, uh, e-mails, uh, obama. like, it s reflexive. reporter: truly, and it s not just a defense tactic for the president. he truly believes that hillary clinton has not been prosecuted in the way that she should. you see there at the end of that clip, he s saying this justice department. he s referring to his own justice department with the attorney general jeff sessions who the president hand picked, same with rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, chris wray,director, all these people are the people the president picked to run the justice system here in washington. his justice system that he s in charge of. that goes back to all of his anger. he can only focus on that. the jeff sessions recusal which is one of the things that irritated the president the most the entire time he s been in office since last march when jeff sessions first recused himself. that s something he zeroed in on. as the skrcrutiny heightened around the president, his aides, former aides including paul manafort, former allies including michael cohen, the more that that is in the news and the headlines, the more he thinks about hillary clinton and when she did and wants that the to be equally looked at and scrutinized as he is. of course, he s the one who is the pvt, not hillary clinton. he s the one occupying the white house right here behind me. but the president doesn t seem to grasp that. he seems to think hillary clinton should be treated the exact same way that he is and she s guilty of the same things that anyone he s associated with has been as well. so you see that because the president doesn t like the scrutiny on him that he s getting from the justice from $899, during sleep number s biggest sale of the year . it senses your movement, and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. it even helps with this. so you wake up ready to put your pedal to the metal. and now, all beds are on sale. save 50% on the new sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. plus, 24-month financing and free home delivery. ends saturday. sleep number. proven, quality sleep. fixer. well, i don t know if he was a fixer. i don t know where that term came from, but he s been a lawyer for me. didn t do big deals. did small deals. not somebody that was with me that much. you know, they make it sound like i didn t live without him. i understood michael cohen very well. he what turned out, h e wasnt a very good lawyer, frankly. he was somebody who was probably with me for about ten years and i would see him sometimes. why would he have a not very good lawyer working for him for ten years? it s a very good question, don, especially a guy who says he only gets the best and the brightest around him. and of course, the reason he had him around was to handle assignments like the assignment of trying to get stormy daniels and karen mcdougal to step down. to stay silent. i mean, that s the kind of assignle that michael cohen took up for the president. so he knows very well why he had michael cohen around and the kinds of things that he assigned to him. yeah. so, will you answer me this, david, you worked in the obama administration, you ve seen what it s like inside the white house on a day-to-day basis in times of crisis. what do you think it s like inside the white house now? let me just qualify this by saying i don t think there s ever been a white house quite like this white house. maybe the nixon white house at the end, but, you know, this is this is like nothing this is suey genaris. when things happened, we never had ethical scandals like this but certainly have events that happened, crises around the world or things like that. and you feel like it s, water is flowing in from everywhere. you feel like you re under siege. and i can only imagine what they feel like in the white house now that they ve had plenty of practice over the last couple of years. but it seems like this has reached a different kind of inflection point. and, you know, i think it s interesting to watch sarah sanders try and parry these questions because there s no way to justify this set of facts and it s almost as if she s given up trying. she just dismisses the questions and moves on partly because i think she s been burned so many times by asserting things that turned out not to be true. you mentioned the unique nature of this administration, but, and the as i said in my open, david, the silence is deafening coming from republicans, from lawmakers in washington on the republican side. is this president going to pay any immediate political price for being implicated in a crime? well, i think that the immediate political price that he may pay will come in november at the polls. you know, i think his base is his base. i think when he said, i can stand on 5th avenue and shoot someone and my people will still stick with me, i think that that was about right. and he has a political base that is an implimplacable base. people who don t have a cult-like fascination with donald trump but might be open for voting for republicans. think he placed a heavy load on the wagon of every republican who s running in any of these swing districts. i have to believe there s an enormous amount of concern about it and you will see, i think, in some of those districts some republicans speaking out but the b bul bulk of those republicans in congress run in districts that are dominated by one party, the republican party, and feel the president s power within that base so they re reluctant to speak out. it s always what s been perplexing to me is that he stands by and people stand by, at least supporters, can shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue as if that s some sort of badge of honor. can you imagine being a supporter of someone and them saying that? that would be insulting to me. do you think i m that stupid? yeah, you know, i agree with that, although i think he s proven himself he s proven right about about that. i just want to harken, i m old enough to remember the water wae days, don. some viewers will remember how that ended. it ended because senior republicans walked down to the white house and told the president it was over. get out. after he was named as an unindicted co-conspirator. and he did. that was before the days of fox news and social media and breitbart and, you know, hannity, and this kind of the sort of silos that we live in today, but, you know, you do you would like to see people stand up at some point and take a position on this because, you know, this is this is a major five-alarm constitutional crisis at this point. i go the to play this from fox news. just to finish my point, just that he s basically saying to you if you re a supporter, stand on 5th avenue, he can tell you anything and you ll buy it, he can do anything and you ll buy it. that is an insult. that s not respect when someone says i can do whatever, break the law, kill somebody, and you re still going to like me? i don t most rational people, no. don, there s something go ahead. i m sorry. that s okay. because i want to play this for you before we run out of time. if you have time, we can respond. this is a bit of the president s interview with fox that s going to air in full tomorrow morning. he suggests president obama also committed a campaign finance violation. here it is. and you look at president obama, he had a massive campaign vi violation, but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently. okay. so, what do you think? there were the obama campaign had technical violations in 2008 for which they paid a $360,000 fine. they did not ask a they did not pay essentially pay up hush money to keep women from speaking out in a way that might damage the campaign. there s no corollary here. this is the difference between a parking ticket and a fundamental crime. and to compare the two, i mean, but this moral relativism is what he does. everybody does what manafort did, no, everybody doesn t do what manafort does. he was involved in bank fraud, tax evasion, millions of dollars he made working for a russian aparachic in ukraine and hid the money. he says everybody does what he did with michael cohen in this case. that is not true. it is not true that everybody meets with russians to get dirt on their opponent. that is not true. okay? and so when he says that, he s offensive to the facts and to the truth and to what all of us who ve been involved if politics all of these years and in government know to be the truth. yeah. so that is his out card and his supporters do apparently accept that or some of them do. that is the line that s being pounded over there on fox tonight. but there is truth and there are facts and he s on the wrong side of them. but, you know, the thing you said, a clerical error and the obama administration, not the administration, the the campaign. the amount was so high is because the number the amount of money they had received millions of contributions. guess what happened in november of 2016, the fec hit the trump campaign with 1,100 errors totaling roughly $1.3 million. similar. don, here s an important point. i know we have to go out, but the guy who was on the fec at the time who he can talk with about this when the obama fines were levied is don mcgahn, now his white house counsel. these matters weren t referred to law enforcement because day were technical violations that are common in campaigns. yeah. we have more later in the show. thank you, david. i appreciate it. thanks for bringing the fact the and the truth. we ll see you next time. we ll be right back. david gergen who an adviser to four presidents and mark mn kickkic mckinnon, former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain. hello to all of you. mark, good to see you. haven t seen you in a while. david, i see you all the time and wie love having you. once again, the most vocal, senator orrin hatch saying these are serious charges and they can t be ignored. yeah, good for him. i ve known orrin hatch for decades and have high regard for him and the fact he s starting to speak up i think is good, but the overall general republican response of this has been extraordinarily weak. it s been very conscious. some would say cowardly. and i think unless they wake up and smell the coffee, they re going to face massive losses in the political elections to come. it s worth remembering as republicans what hatch ehappene watergate. president nixon left office that august of 1974 after some republicans had stood up like howard baker, told him he had to leave. for a long time the republican party was cautious then before some people started waking up and what happened in the midterm elections after nixon left just a few month s late e the democrats picked up 49 seats in the house and won 5 senate seats. day went on to win the general election with jimmy carter in 1980. so they paid a fearsome price i m sorry, in 1976, and they paid a faearsome price as a pary and this is going to hurt the party especially among millennials and women and minor it i ities unless they address it soon. several top republicans did try their best to avoid the questions today. let s listen. all we know about it is that he s bled guilty and everything else that you asking me is speculation. i don t think i should be speculating. i don t know nothing about it to, again, the process is just beginning and i think we ought to let it naturally, it makes you very concerned, but, you know, the president shouldn t be held responsible for the actions of people that he trusted. mr. cohen s credibility s going to be challenged is my best guess. so, mark, is republican silence on these serious allegations at their peril, you think? certainly so and it s not going to hold as this evidence mounts and there s going to be a lot more between now and election day in terms of what we know has happened. we re beginning to see some cracks in the republican wall. among even some of the congressional folks like tom cole from oklahoma who used to run the congressional committee as a pollster, very smart guy. he s speaking up and advising other candidates that they need to speak up. what s happening now is the democrats are getting a clear and compelling message about a culture of corruption. not impeachment. a culture of corruption. the president s campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, his national security adviser, his personal lawyer, now have all either are either convicted or admitted felons. to that s a powerful weapon for the democrats. if i could just read you a very interesting statement by trump right before the election last time, he said, a vote for hillary is a vote to surrender our government to public corruption, cronyism, that threatens the very foundations of our constitutional system. what makes us exceptional is we are a nation of laws. public corruption is a grave and profound threat to our democr y democracy. spreads outward like a cancer and affects the operation of government, itself. if the corruption is not removed, the people are not able to have faith in their government. that was donald trump. so it s coming back on him. what you said. that s, again yeah. so that s a problem. yeah. that is that is a problem. do you think, david, that any republican members of congress, i mean, seriously, do you think that they will be frank with this president and tell him how bad his position really is? i think the numbers start to crumble for him, especially with his base. let s say the overall approval rating and you see the gap widening for the midterms, preferences for the midterms. i think at that point, yes, there will be conversations of a more serious nature. i think they ll be quite hidden. i think what the republicans really have to do, don, is take it upon themselves in congress to take some action. first and foremost, they ought to pass, you know, a bill which protects the special counsel. i mean, this is ludicrous to leave him hanging out there zbli. right. they ought to pass a resolution urging the president to be cautious about pardons instead of dangling pardons in the fox interview in regard to manafort. they ought to urge the president to go testify, himself. do this if a clean way and the republican party can survive it, but if they don t get their heads up and it s right for the country. i mean, they owe it to the country to be tougher on this. the david, yes, but mark, will that ever happen? and, listen, i agree. something should be done. do you think that will ever happen, mark? well, no. i don t think it s going to happen. in fact, you know, elizabeth warren is the one that s filing that kind of legislation which is a smart move on her part, but david s right, there s a reason that david worked for four presidents. that s good advice. it is. get out in front of what s happening. right. the ship is about to hit the iceberg. throw some missiles at the ice and reform packages about protecting the special counsel like he suggested. some of the stuff elizabeth warren has talked about, frankly, tax reform, candidates for president should have to disclose their taxes. that sort of thing should be i think the sort of thing republicans who are normally reformers in those sort of financial things should be out front, not leading from behind. before you said, iceberg, i thought you said something else. if you had said, hit the fan, i d be like, whoa, wait, what kind of fan are we show are we ? thank you, gentlemen, i appreciate it. the iceberg is hitting the fan. bass pro shops and cabela s president trump backed into a corner tonight in the wake of the plea deal from the former attorney michael cohen. or at least the guilty plea. and the conviction of his former campaign chairman paul manafort. let s discuss now, cnn contributor, frank bruni is here of the new york times. also cnn contributor michael he thing, lanny davis said there is no deal. he pled guilty and the only agreement is he wants to tell the truth and wants to correct the record. so that s what he cesaid. there is no deal. sarah sanders today saying, well, someone who makes a plea deal, there s no plea deal. no. not bargaining with anyone. i spoke with a lawyer today who s represented a lot of organized crime figures and there s a good analogy here. i think that prosecutors are looking at the trump organization as an organized crime operation. and there s a lot of speculation that the meeting at trump tower with the russian attorney was likely bugged. someone could have entered that meeting wearing a wire. wow. so why would anyone need cohen s cooperation on this? this is there s no deal left to be made because they have all the proof they need. i just want to get the reaction to something, frank, that they said, okay? what i said. lanny davis said as of today there s no plea deal. michael agreed to plead guilty to the charges. there have been no discussions thus far about lenient sentences or anything else. the only deal is, michael cohen s decision to take responsibility, accept punishment and tell the truth to everyone who wants to hear. what sarah sanders said was false false. then he said, i challenge her to come on your show with you, don, and i would say to her we re not at the white house podium, we re on don lemon s show where we have to tell the truth, so what do you know or what are you guessing? there is a difference. what do you say to that? i want to say that was on the record. lanny told me i could use that. first of all, sarah sanders at this point is saying so many ridiculous things that i wonder why we even talk about her. i know that sounds terribly disrespectful. i talked to you about this. i wonder why people are even going to briefings anymore because what she s saying from the podium is soer releva er ri diversi diversionary. lanny davis. that chapter of this isn t over. i get the impression listening to danny davis as he goes around town and gets the impression reading the tea leaves that there may be mueller has something he wants to talk about. conversations taking place that we don t know about that aren t formalizeded in the matter of a trade deal. speaking of conversations we don t know about, also omarosa who apparently record add lot of them. we ll discuss that when we come back. a bulb of light?!? 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i do. when you look back at what happened with watergate, there were almost two speier passed between the first news of the break-in and nixon s departure. i expect trump to depart. i don t think he ll serve four years. i imagine that he will tell us that we don t deserve him. he will say it is all very unfair, stamp his feet and depart and the country may be all the better for it. thank you. guess who is up next. someone who knows ball watergate. dan rather. we ll be right back. if you have psoriasis, . little things can be a big deal. that s why there s otezla. otezla is not a cream. it s a pill that treats moderate to severe plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don t use if you re allergic to otezla . it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with. .an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts,. .or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you re pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. he
city chip after marinating lobster and cod in line juice spiced with chili pepper the dishes rounded off with oyster plant and icelandic strawberries cooking for me brings for example coming together it means family time it means a swell course. after training as a chef at a restaurant in reykjavik victoria ellie is daughter then worked in the u.s. and brazil. in twenty fifteen she opened her own restaurant in berlin called doctor and friend for two years then she switched to the kitchen in the studio over brother sun also in berlin. my favorite about how my sister victoria coach is it s of course very dicey because he doesn t overcook it so when you have a piece of cotton you. how cocky almost take it off it s nice when it s not overcooked and then i mean it s not wrong they said this just like into london s tate modern in two thousand and three. in two thousand and eleven he created your rainbow panorama a glass walkway in or who s denmark in three years later he transformed denmark s louisiana museum of modern art into a riverbed or a fairly old son and his sister share lots of fun memories of their childhood in reykjavik their pop up restaurant is housed in the marshall house a former fish meal factory. live both long dreamed of operating a restaurant in this building which is now a cultural center. we try on my father. he was a cook on a fishing boat. a friend of ours labor has a restaurant in this room are ready. so it s just an idea we discussed we could do something here. for around three months. guests will be able to enjoy the siblings artistic and colin aren t creations in the u.s. so we kitchen one on one. if this goes well we might try it again next year so maybe in london i m going to get fifty but it would also be fun to do it in other places like in a at is have about four in berlin the city is like the sibling second home so they can imagine opening a restaurant there maybe even one that will stick around for a while. from pop up restaurants to ancient roman ruins we move on now to a brief look at how their culture news making headlines starting with moonlight excursions in the eternal city more on that coming up at the top of today s express . those famous bonds of kara color can now be visited off to jump from now until october special guided night to us of the referee eighteen hundred year old archaeological complex of being off it. one of friends biggest and most well preserved mithraic temples i would like even if i was like the knives in it and my muse of course ever i was like what are you going to do later going to come get it so. everybody was like come on sarah be serious now it s like you know. oh the dream came true in twenty fourteen when she was discovered by producer. kind of like she sounded so often compared to i mean winehouse and show. people always wanted to compare things to describe it then that s fine but i hope you know after five fifty six years like somebody colliver you say well you sound like over. to get a transaction sounds confidence but it wasn t always that when i started her career the singer he johndroe for that became a trademark. i was shy i was scared i was didn t know what to expect i maybe i also covered myself a bit like they would like why should curity how i don t know and then when i started now with this album i was like. now i know it s not going well now and so now it s time to take it off and i have to show like i m also much more confident and. yeah i feel much better than i did before and with a new self confidence confidence has also struck a new tone. but that will be a little thing out but. what encouraging won t live a more positive than what is seen in this album a little bit as a little bit of light it s not. just a little bit. it s still edgy that s kovacs. that. has a good beat all right time now to take a trip to the small greek island of hydra which is developed into a how to spot for artists and collectors in recent years no this is in part thanks to the wealthy and influential art collector doco from june to september his foundation organizes exhibitions an art of events on the island attracting buyers from all over europe while hydras residents have managed to maintain a quaint feeling on the island for years limiting the number of vehicles allowed as well as plastic furniture in some cases it s truly an island away says which has managed to keep mass tourism at bay. greek islands have retained their character and natural beauty as well as hydra. master ism isn t an issue here. still in summer hydra becomes a meeting place for the international scene gathering evidence and collectors flock to the island which turns into an exhibition space most of the action happens after dusk to avoid the heat of the day. due to outrun and i get my drift exudes a mysticism all its own and the artistic community has been hanging out here for years. the greek names have given unusual and eccentric performances here promises of god. the more eccentric the better. british visual artist david shrigley spent fifty hours filming goats pleasing to create his film loft a house now shown in a film a slaughterhouse on the line. with another artist who left his mark on the island was then it covered in. retrospect is some is in this house and wrote some of his best known poems and songs here like that on the wall and. the atmosphere of hydras also inspiring for german rising martin most about his stop his desk in france fit for a terrace on hydra to complete his latest work from. a. feeble phone book as if there is something really special about the silent. it s a unique example of an old urban organism that s been maintained and is in itself a work of art. is constructive. to the guilty is the floating work of. this brightly painted super yachts was designed by american artist jeff koons one of the most sought after contemporary conceptual artists. the vessel was commissioned by dock is to honor a multi-millionaire from cypress with crew. recreates the uncivil it s not just collection of kuhn s works and doing the summing his yacht also functions as a gallery on. every chair every picture every lamp could be a museum piece. my unfinished we had to be. brought to culture and because there s a book on this. show me what would you have to put people to catch. on to a couple sustainable tourism topknots contemporary arts. this mixture combined with the islands it did exciting tools writers and artists to hydra. maybe your home or apartment is in need of a creative interior design tip if so then we have just the solution you might want to try your hand and they do it yourself wire mesh lamp our resident d.i.y. hon and lead carefully walks us through the process so get out your pen and paper if you like to have a go at it on your own but don t worry if she goes too fast you can always see the video again on our youtube channel. creates its own kind of and today i ll show you how to make it. to give your hometown 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that s left is to color you can spray and the color of a few choice i chose method like for this step i strongly advise you to work in a well ventilated place or even better i would toss the baby a really complex and. let the paint dry for a day. then you can reassemble the poets and one of them a stylish new blend with the y. emission i m shade. recommends to use mesh with thin wire just like this one it s small flexible and easy to work with. interior design at its best check out our you tube channel detail interior design stunning ideas spectacular buildings and d.i.y. tutorials on homesick aeration will take you inside the most beautiful european homes show you the latest in furniture fabrics and accessories subscribe and don t miss out. on you tube. we take to the skies for our next report is where photographer martin els and shoot some of the most amazing land and water scapes now discovered his passion for photography only six years ago and since then he has brought out several books of his photographs the latest one came out last april in documents the baltic coast where we hear from the photographer now and why he prefers a bird s eye view. martin is an is an ardent aerial photography. he takes to the skies to capture stunning imagery of northern germany. for example of how the exit is centered. nineteen started out as a hobby photographer. now he s turned his passion into his profession. it s fabulous to be up here flying with the landscape below so tiny it s like a kind of quilt. of the colors we see from up here the baltic sea are truly impressive. but when you re down on the beach you can t experience all the different hues of the sea like emerald green or a deep shade of blue from here we have a fascinating view of it all we see the entire landscape as one stuff of the. mountain as the loves taking photos of germany s coasts today he ll be flying from the vast via heineken hafen to the baltic island off the mountain. pass taking shop it is from six hundred metres up in the air while flying at a speed of one hundred fifty kilometers is quite a challenge. and martin anderson is an absolute perfectionist. of. clowns but not too many and just on the horizon a light little dabs of white. well and you want to see to have a nice shade of blue that fades into green the landscape shouldn t be a barren one. virgine to green you want to get that around june and the position of the sun matters as well water photographs taken in the late afternoon or early morning can produce very harmonic images. sometimes you can also snap a perfect picture at noon. time there s one mall key to success pilots dennis had in mind has been working with martinez in for six years now. with all that feeds of info thing because the part of the major difference to regular flights is that martin is basically in charge he sits on the right side identifying the spots he wants to photograph no those are not in my side of view. so he gives me exact instructions on how to fly the plane how hard and how long to bank when to straighten out when to circle martin designs all that in mid-flight. over the years how do you has already spent three hundred hours together up in the air the mountain is taken more than eight hundred thousand pities he says he doesn t have a favorite kind of my teeth but he s got it during. i want to make a portrait series of new york because you could say the island is practically a part of germany has so many germans go there so i d like to do that and maybe i ll manage it one day. until then martin as in book keeps soaring through the skies over northern germany. i or that it s time for us the so are out of here but just a reminder before we go don t forget to check out our website to see any of the reports again or follow us on facebook or instagram as always for me and the rest of the crew here aromatics thanks for tuning in once again tomorrow. next time on your own. fresh blossoms for the museum to celebrate the twenty 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a hearing in which you can see them. also coming up tonight a battle motivated by pure fear america s commander in chief goes to war with america s chronicler in chief. and. the things that some of the things trump did and does jeopardize the real national security. are we begin the day in sweden and the election that didn t go right far right as planned swedish voters elected a new national parliament yesterday it was an election that europe watched with a mixture of anticipation and dread the anti immigration sweden democrats were poised for an upset victory a rebuke of the country s generous policies towards migrants but that did not happen instead the governing social democrats remain the biggest party the sweden democrats the party with neo nazi roots not just up four percent but still failed to meet its goal of becoming the country s second biggest political force however it s not business as usual forming a new government will be much harder because mainstream parties all lost some support to the far right and with that sweden has become the next step in europe s dangerous dance with populous. this man jimmy orcus on has given his party rooted in white supremacy a respectable face and sweet talk to disgruntled voters away from sweden s political center. do you know what friends of sweden they said on t.v. that it s hard to declare a winner of this election i know who s won the sweden democrats. you know a small country that s accepted nearly half a million asylum seekers since twenty twelve orcus runs messages resonated with those skeptical of immigration and the political establishment incumbent prime ministers define loaf and center left coalition only barely defeated the opposition center right alliance a sign le friend says it s time to toss out the bloc system that s defined swedish politics for decades if using you see the no side has a clear majority it s only natural that we will have to work across the political divide to make it possible to govern sweden so regardless of the final election results this will be the death of bloc politics. i but his invitation to the center right to engage in cross party talks has so far fallen on deaf ears the head of the opposition is calling on to resign that leaves two sides in a virtual dead heat after the vote without a majority neither bloc says it will work with a strong third place finisher that has neo nazi roots forming a new government could take weeks or months of talks in a country where a populist wave is eroding a long held tradition of tolerance. and for more on this i m joined here at the big table by to be is sold he is a researcher on right wing populism in northern europe at the institute for international and security affairs here in berlin is it s good to have you on the show so let s talk about you know the far right stars if you will of this election this week and democrats they made gains i think they gave what about four percent and that s not the breakthrough that they had been predicting or hoping for so isn t the election result actually a failure for them well they re different to the predations now of course i mean some say it s still it s still a victory it s still craig almost five percent up they they are almost no not above but since two thousand and ten when it first came into parliament and they doubled the vote now which is impressive images which is impressive in a way but register say exactly i mean they were hoping for more and many others not supported by the vastly fearing or expecting even more so some polls talked about twenty percent some even up to twenty five percent but that didn t happen was immigration migration the arrival of migrants was it the divisive issue that had been predicted i mean every no i didn t you know were guilty of that as well we had been reporting on it was it the one issue that divided people at the ballot box it was one for the was if issues integration as you say but also security is in some extent and this region democrats to link these issues very much together and it was actually them who really put my creation and integration barry high on the on the agenda the other parties are more reluctant on that but they country until two thousand and fifteen exactly and yet when we look at you know crime that is associated with the arrival of migrants those types of metrics you haven t seen a worsening of the situation so why don t we see the mainstream parties you know hammering that issue and saying the migrants i have have they re not a threat to us that indeed this strange thing and i mean it has really been an old problem and the current crime as we see it doesn t have to do much to save those migrants who arrived in device and fifth into the country and that has a lot to do with the people that live in the country since a long time but has not really been integrated very vocal and that is a failure of the of the previous government to some extent you know they kind of have the collected the chelan shari a bridge which is involved ben but people are rife from different cultures arrive in the country and what happens now moving forward when we ve got the democrats there not as strong as they wanted to be but they re going to be more vocal they promise to do that so what happens then to politics in sweden moving vote well i m interested in democrats that will try to continue about. before really trying to push the politics i mean they said actually five if you don t want to govern the country but you want to change transfer you want to change to the manner of politics so what they redid now try is to to implement or let up the punters implements they are they have their policies and that s and that s a real shame and though it depends a lot how the other parties reacts to that s what about their call to take sweden out of the european union i mean that sort of they d like to do yeah that s a very interesting thing i mean they have said that before and they repeated in the complain again but there is not much ground for that i mean old they are the problem is rejecting that idea i mean they all say very clearly sweden profits from the us we needs the european union and the public things to say about fifty seven percent of some of the streets save the ones you need to stay in you ve been union and only around seventeen percent want to want to leave and what about the the government to the new government of sweden that has yet to be formed i mean it s going to be hard to come to grips these are these are going to be strange bedfellows right now absolutely and i mean it s a really difficult situation or it s a bit of a deadlock i mean all the whole of the parties they basically proclaimed they are the winners but that s basic because they haven t lost that much as they were expecting to the social democrats and the and the moderates so deserve the democrats are still the strongest party but they are full of the camp that they have a majority but the but but but the conservative camp doesn t have died or so it s really difficult to predict what is up that s going to happen now that it will have to talk to each other there is a bit of thinking of all sorts block overarching coalitions but there s no really a tradition for that and not in order to for example what we have in germany a grand coalition as a green coalition and i something like well we re going to be in new territory for sure absolutely to be as it s old a researcher on right wing populism in northern europe the institute for international and security affairs here in berlin because we appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your insights thank you. the united nations human rights chief is calling on china to allow in monitors after allegations of large scale arbitrary detention of muslim minorities now michel but shalit calls the allegations quote deeply disturbing they appear in a report that was published today by human rights watch it says more than a million muslims have been detained in a so-called reeducation camps in china s northwestern shin jiang region and details honasan ethnic because it was born in china where large numbers of cars us have disappeared into camps along with members of our muslim ethnic minorities the official just a few cation combatting religious extremism it s all brainwashing for them to accept you are chinese you have. national unity it s size to make you feel you are part of the nation you don t need to keep your own ethnic identity it s just really like ethnic cleansing practice because a or her attorneys have warned summer one of the long arm of chinese authorities but he wants his voice to be heard. will they need to have the courage to tell the truth if we don t share our stories of what s going on and who will. and that s why i m speaking out in court it doesn t look like. someone honasan are marching the city around three hundred kilometers from the chinese border a few former detainees have made it. we do not know exactly how many people are being detained at these camps international organizations estimate that the number exceeds one million down no verdict and no sentences release is entirely at the whim of the camp administration. many causes have links to china and many have relatives in the camps just saying the wrong word can lead to detention. for many inmates the only hooper release comes from amnesty s efforts on their behalf. this man was arrested on a business trip how. could that happen if you only destroy i don t even know if he s still alive in. the sun to my son is twelve because he asked me where his father is every day even his teacher has started asking questions. news from across the border has become scars for muslims in china any contact with their relatives is simply too dangerous. in the united states much of the country is consumed with fear i m referring of course to the latest tell all book about the trump presidency entitled fear it goes on sale tomorrow the author is the two time pulitzer winner and journalist of watergate fame bob woodward woodward has written some four hundred pages of what has to be some of the most scathing and brutally honest account ever compiled on a sitting u.s. president president trump has already slammed fear as well as mr woodward earlier today the u.s. president was apparently a nerd by an interview on the today show with woodward trump tweeted bob woodward is a liar who is like a democratic operative prior to the midterm elections he was caught cold even by n.b.c. . woodward is defending his book saying that all anonymous sources quoted are from interviews conducted not on the record but instead on deep background which is a standard and perfectly legal practice in journalism woodward has also been very open about his reaction to the accounts shared with him by top level trump insiders i want you to take a listen as he describes the danger of trump s lack of knowledge concerning matters of u.s. national security well i ve never seen instance when the president is so detached from the reality of what s going on in one n.s.c. meeting a year after trump was in office the secretary of defense has to tell him because the president s complaining about all this money we re spending and u.s. forces abroad james mattis says to him we re doing this to prevent world war three now the idea that his secretary of defense has to tell the president that all of these actions are designed to prevent the ultimate catastrophe and then man it s goes on and says you know if we don t keep these programs which are very sensitive. the only deterrent option we have will be the new killer option you know the nuclear option oh my next guess is a us presidential historian and author he has written numerous books including january nineteenth seventy three watergate roe versus wade vietnam and the month that changed america forever he and john dean richard nixon s former white house counsel travel across the u.s. speaking about the watergate scandal they have also led a seminar for lawyers focusing on comparisons between richard nixon and donald trump. well i m happy to welcome tonight to the day mr james who joins us tonight from cleveland ohio mr rove or not welcome to the day i want to ask you you know you ve been hearing what bob woodward s been saying just like we have i mean considering what mr woodward has written regarding trump s lack of knowledge about policies in the wall would you recommend that mr trump even attend the simmon are that you re giving which compares him to richard nixon. i think you would do well i know with. john b. he s a very honest guy you re here really is very much particular and interesting that you know john you know i started doing our program in two thousand and eleven will trump was on the scene in nixon s impulsive nature and some of the things that got him into this very troubled. right now so yeah he would do well to come listen joycean are in some of the papers. you write that there is a cancer growing on the trump presidency i mean what is the cancer. well you know the thing is that right now we re hearing is breathtaking from people inside not only with words well but the new york times and i don t know steve s it is that the president really doesn t pay attention very much he does have a long attention to c.n.n. this is very impulsive heavy in these are things that are beginning to pile up in the cancer that s going with his presidency is you ve got some of these high level people now cooperating with robert muller who s the best gating collusion with the russians and also obstruction of justice and that s kind of very problematic for the president because some of those people are even is all yours just as john trunk was nixon s john bemis nixon. yeah i mean that s it is an interesting point you made could be were i don t want to go with too much detail here with this but do you think that the president s former personal attorney michael cohen and his lawyer lanny davis do you think they will prove key to finding the truth about the trump presidency and you know i think it will be very important in terms of crimes like. you know people before an election keep them quiet to affect an election. one is already pled guilty to that and set the truck was involved in order that yet that s all proven criminal activity whether or not colin knows about the russian collusion is a different story and as you know any davis has said one thing and have walked it back a little bit so that s less. going to be very important to the overall structure of what was going on within trucks you know. i want you to take a listen to what woodward said when asked about the president s accusation that woodward s quotes from top officials are simply fabrications take a listen they are not telling the truth. but look what s going on here and. my old boss at the washington post ben bradlee the great editor used to say the truth emerges sometimes it takes time these people these are political statements to protect their jobs totally understandable but this is this carefully done as you can do an excavation of the reality of what goes on in capable and miserable i mean you know ask you is it understandable that these top officials talk to woodward and then deny what they said i mean if they truly believe that the president is so incompetent and dangerous why in the world do you think they stick around. i don t need a stick around because there s no check i m trying right now both houses of our congress republicans and they re not doing anything about what they re hearing about me and so there are people who say probably are very concerned if they come out and say what they re going to say if you discard it nobody will be left in their place. the country so i think that s one of the main reasons you know awkward knows what it s talking about when it comes to it and i believe he back in watergate days had a source that he known as deep throat turns out that i was the number two guy at the cia i marked out and he clearly did i for thirty years that he was deep throat until he finally admitted that in fact he was so so it s not it s not surprising that they were denied and you know let me get your expertise here since you do comparisons between the richard nixon and watergate and and donald trump and his presidency the the anonymous author of the letter that was published last week in the new york times do you see a parallel there with the deep throat character from the watergate scandal. yes very much so and i think that this whole idea of being an anonymous source you know is actually an american tradition that goes all the way back to the federalist papers that i was eager hamilton and those are anonymous people say well it s an american tradition to speak this way and in certain instances but there s very much a parallel to a lot here in very much a parallel between these two men who weighed in acted both authoritarians both their impulsive nixon it behind the scenes on the tapes which i ve listened to extensively does it out in the open in twitter in press conference when you re holding the seminar then for lawyers in the u.s. when you re talking about the of the comparisons here you know what do you tell them are let s say you know the two strongest similarities between nixon and drop. yeah i think that the strongest similarity is the impulsiveness nixon present bill invaded cambodia actor in vietnam war over over a one day decision that he made he didn t consult anybody very impulsive it true the country upside down with kent state shootings student said university here in the united states so that impulsive activity is one of the things that we show through the case but we also show nixon saying repeatedly the press is the enemy crosses the end it s acting the press you know also having an enemy s less those are very much in the works area and here that operates in and before we run out of time do you see the trial presidency headed towards some type of ending similar to what richard nixon experience and you know we have the midterms coming up and if the democrats if they do succeed in taking the house do you think that impeachment is inevitable. and i. will be calling the way it works is the house sends up isn t the check. the senate has the senate is still republican and you re not going to happen each the thing that i see coming out of it is if the special prosecutor has evidence now i don t dance present trump on collusion but his own family members especially donald jr abbe create an up worse and i know concern trumps are if you could very well resign to protect his own children all right we will be watching to see if that indeed takes place james robonaut historian and author check out his latest book by the way ballots and bullets that s a good read as well mr romanov we appreciate you joining us tonight on the day thank you. 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didn t go right far right as planned swedish voters elected a new national parliament yesterday it was an election that europe watched with a mixture of anticipation and dread the anti immigration sweden democrats were poised for an upset victory a rebuke of the country s generous policies towards migrants but that did not happen instead the governing social democrats remain the biggest party the sweden democrats the party with neo nazi roots notched up four percent but still failed to meet its goal of becoming the country s second biggest political force however it s not business as usual forming a new government will be much harder because mainstream parties all lost some support to the far right and with that sweden has become the next step in europe s dangerous dance with populous. this divide to make it possible to govern sweden so regardless of the final election results this will be the death of bloc politics. i but his invitation to the center right to engage in cross party talks has so far fallen on deaf ears the head of the opposition is calling on to resign that leaves two sides in a virtual dead heat after the vote without a majority neither bloc says it will work with a strong third place finisher that has neo nazi roots forming a new government could take weeks or months of talks in a country where a populist wave is a roading a long held tradition of tolerance. and for more on this i m joined here at the big table by to be is sold he is a researcher on right wing populism in northern europe at the institute for international and security affairs here in berlin toby s it s good to have you on the show so let s talk about you know the far right stars if you will of this all these people anymore a welfare state otherwise might collapse and the other party s fault that the only way of getting motors back again from them is to also kind of use similar for x. and what about just using the facts i mean if you look at sweden s population in demographics it took in more in the last three years it s taken in more migrants per capita than any e.u. country until two thousand and fifteen exactly and yet when we look at you know crime that is associated with the arrival of migrants those types of metrics you haven t seen a worsening of the situation so why don t we see the mainstream parties you know hammering that issue and saying the migrants i have have they re not a threat to us that indeed this strange thing and i mean has really been an old problem and the current crime as we see it doesn t have to do much to save those that s and that s a real shame and now it depends a lot how the other parties react to that s what about their call to take sweden out of the european union i mean that sort of they d like to do yeah that s a very interesting thing i mean they have said that before and they repeat it in the container again but there is not much ground for that i mean all the of the prompter is rejecting that idea i mean they all say very clearly sweden profits from the u.s. we need the european union and the public things to say about fifty seven percent of the streets they have the voluntary need to stay and you ve been union and only around seventeen percent want to want to leave and what about the the government to the new government of sweden that has yet to be formed you mean it s going to be hard to come to grips these are these are going to be strange bedfellows right now absolutely and i mean it s a really difficult situation or it s a bit of a deadlock i mean all the whole of the parties they basically are it s all still the strongest party but they are full of the cam the diode to have a majority but but but but the conservative camp doesn t have died or so it s really difficult to predict what is up that s going to happen now that it will have to talk to each other there is a bit of thinking of. overarching coalitions but there s no really a tradition for that then not in order to for example what we have in germany a grand coalition and the right is a great coalition and i something i ve done well we re going to be in new territory for sure absolutely to be as it s old a researcher on right wing populism in northern europe the institute for international and security affairs here in berlin to me as we appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your insights thank you. the united nations human rights chief is calling on china to allow in monitors after allegations of large scale arbitrary detention of muslim minorities now michel calls the allegations quote deeply disturbing they appear in a report that was published today by human rights watch it says more than a million muslims have been detained in a so-called reeducation camps in china s northwestern shinji young region and details of the internment system are emerging slowly because the chinese government tightly controls access to the region but correspondent mathias berlingo traveled to neighboring kazakhstan to speak with witnesses. han is a former inmate of a chinese reeducation camp he got out of the internment facility in march and is now in kazakhstan it is an important day for him he s meeting a team from amnesty international to speak out about his experiences. we had to sing for hours. songs like without the communist party there would be no new china. most of them were songs praising mao tse tung. and were forced to repeat slogans about the greatness of president xi jinping. and what a great place china is to live in. but some are honasan ethnic because it was born in china where large numbers of cars us have disappeared into camps along with a members of the muslim ethnic minorities the official just a few cation combatting religious extremism it s all brainwashing for them to accept that you are chinese so you have that it s a national unity it s size to make you feel your heart of the nation you don t need to keep your own ethnic it is just really like ethnic cleansing practice because a horse or a g. s have worn some or han of the long arm of chinese authorities but he wants his voice to be heard. will they need to have the courage to tell the truth if we don t share our stories of what s going on then who will that s why i m speaking out for the songs by. someone hundreds in march in the city around three hundred meters from the chinese border if you from a detainee s have made it. we do not know exactly how many people are being detained at these camps international organizations estimate that the number you. cs one million down or verdict or no sentences release is entirely at the whim of the camp administration. many causes of nukes to china and many have relatives in the camps just saying the wrong word can lead to detention. for many inmates the only hooper release comes from amnesty s efforts on their behalf. this man was arrested on a business trip. to have enough people destroyed i don t even know if he is still alive and in. my son is twelve. he asked me where his father is every day even his teacher has started asking questions. that. news from across the border has become scars for muslims in china any contact with their relatives is simply too dangerous. in the united states much of the country is consumed with fear i m referring of course to the latest tell all book about the trump presidency entitled fear it goes on sale tomorrow the author is the two time pulitzer winner and journalist of watergate fame bob woodward and woodward has written some four hundred pages of what has to be some of the most scathing and brutally honest account ever compiled on a sitting u.s. president president trump has already slammed fear as well as mr woodward earlier today the u.s. president was apparently a injured by an interview on the today show with woodward trump tweeted bob woodward is a liar who is like a democratic operative prior to the midterm elections he was caught cold even by n.b.c. . woodward is defending his book saying that all anonymous sources quoted are from interviews conducted not on the record but instead on deep background which is a standard and perfectly legal practice in journalism woodward has also been very open about his reaction to the accounts shared with him by top level trump insiders i want you to take a listen as he describes the danger of trump s lack of knowledge concerning matters of u.s. national security well i ve never seen instance when the president is so detached from the reality of what s going on in one in a scene meeting a year after trump was in office the secretary of defense has to tell him because the president s complaining about all this money we re spending u.s. forces abroad james madison says to him we re doing this to prevent world war three now the idea that the secretary of defense has to tell the president that all of these actions are designed to prevent the ultimate catastrophe and then made us goes on and says you know if we don t keep these programs which are very sensitive. the only deterrent option we have will be the new killer option you know the nuclear option or my next guess is a us presidential historian and author he has written numerous books including january one thousand seventy three watergate roe versus wade vietnam and the month that changed america forever he and john dean richard nixon s former white house counsel travel across the u.s. speaking about the watergate scandal they have also led a seminar for lawyers focusing on comparisons between richard nixon and donald trump. well i m happy to welcome tonight to the day mr james webb adult who joins us tonight from cleveland ohio mr robey not welcome to the day i want to ask you you know you ve been hearing what bob woodward s been saying just like we have i mean considering what mr woodward has written regarding trump s lack of knowledge about policies in the wall would you recommend that mr trump me even attend the simmon are that you re giving which compares him to richard nixon. i think you would do him well i know bob woodward. john b. he s a very honest guy you re here really is very much particular and interesting that you know john you know i started doing our program in two thousand and eleven donald trump was on the scene in resoled about nixon s impulsive nature and some of the things that got him into this very troubled. right now so yeah he would do well to come listen joycean are in some of the papers. you write that there is a cancer growing on the trump presidency i mean what is the cancer. well you know the thing is that right now we re hearing just breathtaking from people inside not only where it s well but the new york times and i don t misuse it is that the president really doesn t pay attention very much he does have a long attention to c.n.n. this is very impulsive heavy in these are things that are beginning to pile up in the cancer that s going with his presidency is you ve got some of these high level people now cooperating with robert muller who s the best gating collusion with the russians and also obstruction of justice and that s kind of. problematic for the president because some of those people are even is all yours just as john trump was nixon s john bemis nixon. yeah i mean that s it is an interesting point you made could be were i don t want to go into too much detail here with this but do you think that the president s former personal attorney michael cohen and his lawyer lanny davis do you think they will prove key to finding the truth about the trunk presidency and you know i think it will be very important in terms of crimes like. you know before an election on quiet to affect an election michael cohen has already pled guilty to that and set the truck was involved in order that yet that s all proven criminal activity whether or not one knows about the russian pollution is a different story and as you know when he davis has said one thing and have walked it back a little bit so that. they re going to be very important to the overall structure of what was going on within trucks you know. i want you to take a listen to what woodward said when asked about the president s accusation that woodward s quotes from top officials are simply fabrications take a listen they are not telling the truth. but look what s going on here and. my old boss at the washington post ben bradlee the great deaded you used to say the truth emerges sometimes it takes time these people these are political statements to protect their jobs totally understandable but this is this carefully done as you can do an excavation of the reality of what goes on in capable and miserable i mean you know ask you is it understandable that these top officials talk to woodward and then deny what they said i mean if they truly believe that the president is so incompetent and dangerous why in the world do you think they stick around. i don t need a stick around because there s no check i m trying right now both houses of our congress republicans and they re not doing anything about what they re hearing about me and so dare i say probably are very concerned that if they come out and say what they re going to say if you discard it nobody will be left in their place to protect the country so i think that s one of many reasons you know awkward knows what he s talking about when it comes to that i believe he back in watergate days had a source that. turns out that i was the number two guy at the cia mark and he clearly did i put thirty years that he was the until he finally admitted that in fact he was so so it s not it s not surprising that they were denied and you know let me get your expertise here since you do comparisons between the richard nixon and watergate and and donald trump and his presidency the the anonymous author of the letter that was published last week in the new york times do you see a parallel there with the deep throat character from the watergate scandal. yeah very much so and i think that this whole idea of being an anonymous source yes is actually an american tradition that goes all the way back to the federalist papers we ve seen or hamilton and those are anonymous implicit they use an american tradition to speak this way and in certain instances but there s very much apparently a lot here in very much parallel between these two men who great actor both were of champions both their impulsive nixon it behind the scenes under tapes which i ve listened to extensively does it out in the open in twitter in crest counters when you re holding the seminar then for lawyers in the u.s. when you re talking about the of the comparisons here you know what do you tell them are let s say you know the two strongest similarities between nixon and drop. yeah i think that the strongest similarity is the impulsiveness nixon perusia people in. cambodia actor in vietnam war over over a one day decision that he maybe didn t consult very impulsive it true the country upside down with kent state shootings student said university here in the united states so that impulsive activity is one of the things that we show through the piece but we also show nixon saying repeatedly the press is the enemy the crisis the end it s actually the press you know also having an enemy s less those are very much in the works area and here that operates in and before we run out of time do you see the trial presidency headed towards some type of ending similar to what richard nixon experience and you know we have the midterms coming up and if the democrats if they do succeed in taking the house do you think that impeachment is inevitable. and i. will be calling the way it works is the house sends up. the senate has the senate is still republican and you re not going to happen each the thing that i see coming out of it is if the special prosecutor has evidence now i don t dance president trump on collusion but his own family members especially donald jr and me create an up worse and i 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you re killing an innocent child. a woman s right to choose is critically important. i think we all need a voice to speak up and to take a stand. and no man should ever have any say in terms of our own bodies. and what we choose to do. i think it s very important we vote for those who are going to support president trump and his agenda. make america great again. a big variety there. post a video to instagram telling us what s pushing you to the polls. use the hashtag #whyivotecnn. all right, top of the hour. glad you re with us. i m poppy harlow in new york. i m jim sciutto. florida governor rick scott is expected to update us on preparations for hurricane michael which scott is calling monstrous and in his words, the most destructive storm to threaten the florida panhandle in decades. this morning, michael grew to a category 2. it s expected to reach category 3, which means 120 miles per hour by the time the center hits the panhandle. look a this graphic. this is going to show you, all of these counties under evacuation orders or advisories with just a few hours left for people and their pets to get out or stay put until it is over. we are tracking michael from every angle this morning. let s begin with chad myers with more. as jim mentioned at the top, more warm water to go over. that s the concern about the acceleration into a category 3. that s how it got where we are right now. that water near cozumel is even two degrees warmer than what it s in, and that s why it just snapped into action. now, the good news is the gulf of mexico isn t very big. so we don t have four more days to watch this thing turn into a cat-5. by the time we re talking about landfall, somewhere between 24 and maybe 30 hours from right now, it s going to gather more strength, but not as much as it could. it still could be a cat-4, no question about that. this 120 is plus or minus 10%. keep that in mind. so the direction is also 10% plus or minus east or west from panama city. here s the storm in its full view, in visible satellite mode. 100-mile-per-hour storm, but the aircraft flying through it did just find a 105-mile-per-hour gust. we ll see what they do with the storm at 11:00. so 120 miles per hour, afternoon tomorrow, making landfall somewhere very close to panama city. it could be apalachicola, it could be to the left, maybe not fort walton beach or destine but that area. the right side is always the worst. the left side, the winds are going to blow offshore. we do have winds getting to tropical storm force by tonight. 8:00 tonight, right there. that s the last time you re going to be able to get over some of these bridges. don t wait until morning when the winds are blowing 60 because they may not let you over. lots of power lines down. widespread power outages with trees down, power lines down and a long time to actually get to put the power lines back up. 8 to 12-foot storm surge. what does that mean? 12 feet of water in your home. we re talking about places like st. marks where the land is pretty low. all of a sudden, that water is coming up, coming up, slowly, slowly, slowly, and you need to be out of there. wind will hurt you, but water will kill you. if you re anywhere near the water, less than 12 feet above sea level, you need to go. a great representation of storm surge. it s hard for people to imagine. they think 12 feet is moving horizontally, but it s moving up. that s two of me. that s a lot of water. chad wbr id= wbr2320 /> myers thanks very much. dianne gallagher is on the beach at panama city beach, florida. what are you seeing? i can see the waves getting /b> rough behind you. but what are the preparations there like? jim, really we re starting to see the wind kick up. we had constant breeze that s kicked up in speed and in force over the past hour or so. preparation wise, the best news is that we re not seeing people out walking on the beach for the most part. we re seeing people pack up, leave hotels, right here along this strip. panama city beach, those who are out here were watching sandbagging happening in condos. you can see the pier out here, farther out that you look, you can see a couple still walking around the shoreline. most people, though, are getting last minute evacuation things in order, including a wedding. we actually had just within the past hour a couple, benny and cindy quinn, who were supposed to get married tomorrow afternoon, right when hurricane michael is wbr-id= wbr2920 /> supposed to roll in here. at panama city beach. they moved it up so they can get inland. they re going toward alabama now to begin their honeymoon. they said they didn t have a choice, and that s the best thing people can do. move your plans up and get out. chad just said the wind will hurt you, water will kill you. that s what the people here in panama city beach are trying to make sure that everyone understands. now, we re dealing with fuel issues already. a lot of the gas stations are either low on or have run out of fuel overnight. they were expecting some shipments to come in to help with these evacuation procedures here, but look, the highway is getting off the island, you re going to expect long lines. give yourself some time. the best way to do this is to get out now. good advice. hope everyone heeds it. thank you. on the phone with us now is the mayor of panama city. thank you for being with us, mayor. what s your biggest concern right now? biggest concern now is that people are complacent because in the past we had a lot of storms that were didn t really turn out to be much of a storm, so they say, see, all these scare tactics. they said this, they said that, and look, nothing happened. so you know, we re fortunate. if nothing happens this time, wouldn t it be wonderful? but we have to prepare for the worst. and all indications are it has not gotten any better since last night, so it s going to get worse. and the storm surge is going to get to a point, the wind is going to get to a point that if people decide, well, i m staying, and something happens to them, first responders will not be able to get to them. so i m not trying to fearmonger, i m trying to let people know to be realistic. that if you that now is the time. the gas stations that were out of gas last night, they have gas today. i went by several of them. so now is the time. we ask people to leave at first light this morning. and we asked visitors yesterday so that it wouldn t clog up the roads for our constituents to go ahead and go. so we want to keep people safe. number one priority of government and the only way we can keep you safe is mayor, all right. thanks very much. we re going to stay on that story. we have breaking news now just in to cnn. this is cnn breaking news. we re learning new details now. this just coming out as we speak. but reports that nikki haley, of course, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., has resigned. and that the president has accepted her resignation. this being reported by axios first, and we re waiting for response from the white house now. again, nikki haley, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations has resigned. we re getting our reporters on this. look, this is someone who was highly critical of the president during the campaign. but then when she took this post, she has been an ardent defender of the president, so much so that just last month, after that anonymous opinion piece was written about the president in the new york times, she wrote a separate opinion piece in the washington post lambasting them and said, look, when i disagree with the president, i take it directly to the president. she wrote then, i don t agree with the president on everything. when there is a disagreement, there s a right way and a wrong way to address it. we don t know what it is that led to her resignation. was it a disagreement? was it something personal? was it serving for two years and that being enough time? we don t know, but again, a huge development. and to be clear, this is axios that is reporting this, and that the president has accepted this. as we wait for comment from the white house, one of the areas of disagreement between the u.n. ambassador, nikki haley, and the president, in public comments has been on toughness in the face of russia. russian interference in the election, russian activities around the world, in ukraine and elsewhere. nikki haley has not been shy by any means about voicing those concerns in public from the seat, the u.s. seat at the u.n. security council and elsewhere in terms that the president, that this president has not used, rarely if ever used to describe russia and the russian president. again, we don t know what the background about this, whether it was a disagreement or some other reason, but those public disagreements have been very clear cut. look, she has stood behind the administration and the president on action when it comes to russia. she will point to the sanctions that were passed unanimously in congress and then signed by the president. but in terms of rhetoric, when she s sitting there at the u.n. with her counterparts, she ll go further than the president will go on russia. looking at the president s foreign policy national security team, you know, to the extent at any point you had something of a team of rivals here, folks in there with power and with the occasional taking the occasional option of disagreeing with the president in public, several of those have now left. h.r. mcmaster, national security adviser, replaced by john bolton, more in line with the president on a number of things. so from the view of the outside of the united states, you ll often hear from foreign diplomats among u.s. allies that people like nikki haley have made them feel more comfortable about their relationship with the u.s. on key national security issues. as you see folks like that leave, you know the reaction from others abroad will be a nervous one. let s bring in our colleague, mark preston, with more on this. mark, one other thing i was thinking of, nikki haley has taken a lot of questions and heat from some about the president s comments on women. for example. and she being a very senior female in the administration, has stood by him. i have been at off the record events and background events hearing nikki haley supporting the president even in some of the most sort of dramatic times and moments of turmoil for the president. what is your read on this and are you hearing anything about why and why now? well, a couple things. one is, to your point, it has shown how astute of a politician nikki haley has been. certainly in these past couple years of the trump administration. she s been able to walk that fine line and be able to address some of these very tough issues but yet not necessarily address them and be hypercritical of the president. jim was talking to, when you talk about foreign issues as well, she s been very tough on russia, but at the same time, it hasn t appeared as if she was breaking with her boss necessarily, maybe just reaffirming what the administration would like our allies to hear and not necessarily what president trump said. but at the same time, she s also very young. she was not a trump person initially. she supported marco rubio, the florida senator, for the republican presidential nomination. mark preston, if i could interrupt you there for a moment because this was first reported by axios. this has been confirmed by a white house official to jim acosta. cnn has the same reporting. nikki haley s departure, resignation, president trump accepting that resignation. sorry, i interrupted you. go ahead. i wanted to point out, she certainly was one of these folks who came into the cabinet who was not a loyalist in the campaign. when he became the nominee, by and large, the whole party got behind president trump. but she s not somebody who was necessarily by his side from the beginning. look, she s done her couple years. perhaps she just wants to get out of the fire. you couldn t blame her for it. you would have thought if that s the point, there may have been some indication or something leading up to this. any sort of comments from the president or her. two quick things. she s in the west wing. we know that. our colleague is reporting that. she s in the west wing. she walked by reporters who asked can you confirm you resigned? she did not respond to that. elise labott is on the phone with us. can you hear us? i can. and elise, you have interviewed nikki haley. you know this top to bottom. what can you tell us? well, look. poppy, it comes as a surprise, i think, that she would do it now. we re so close to the midterms. and if anything, nikki haley is a republican party loyalist. she s a true conservative, and you know, her aides said that she was constantly assessing what her role was in the administration. she seemed to have the ear of the president in some ways. the president let her do some of the things that she thought were very important, like i went and traveled with her to africa to visit refugees in south sudan, ethiopia, the democratic republic of congo. she also did the same in syria and turkey. she was very interested in u.n. reform and the president kind of let her take the ball with that. but at the same time, she disagreed with the president on other issues. elise, i m going to apologize for interrupting you here. we have reaction from the white house to this. please stand by. abby phillip is at the white house. abby, what are you hearing from the white house? hey, jim and poppy. at the white house here, we are expecting to see president trump and nikki haley in the oval office shortly. white house press secretary sarah sanders says they will appear together at 10:30 this morning in the oval office. my colleague, jeremy diamond, just saw nikki haley. you just mentioned that on air. just saw her in the west wing. she s in the building. she declined to answer any questions about her fate, but i think it s notable that if this is in fact the moment in which the president acknowledges her resignation, announces it to the world, it s a sign that they are trying to show a sign of unity or at least an amicable departure from the administration, but i have to say, jim and poppy, this is an interesting time for nikki haley to make this decision. president trump is coming off an extraordinarily good week. he just had a supreme court justice confirmed, just did his victory lap at the white house last night. great economic news, but to be losing basically a cabinet level official at this stage in his administration, 28 days before the midterm elections, is something that i think will raise a lot of eyebrows here in washington. but we will hear and see from them, themselves, in just a few minutes, in about 15 minutes. reporters will by allowed in the room, according to sarah sanders. more than raise a lot of eyebrows. it will cause concerns. there are a number of foreign, and apologize to our viewers, as we look, we re getting messages on our phones, on our computers from folks reacting to this, but the view from abroad but also from other national security circles here in the u.s. will be one of concern because they have seen ambassador haley as something of a voice of reason and also someone who is willing to stand up on key national security issues, particularly russia, but not just russia. human rights issues, et cetera, in a way they have not consistently heard from the president himself. as we bring mark preston back into the conversation, when it comes to human rights abuses around the world, where nikki haley has gone further than the president, case in point, relevant this week, saudi arabia. she s called out publicly saudi arabia on human rights. the president did not choose to do that when it comes to the question of what happens to jamal khashoggi, the journalist. also an area where she has previously broken with the president, you mentioned russia importantly, in terms of going farther in rhetoric, is obsexual assault. back in december 2017 when the president s accusers were coming forward, she said all of the accusers, including the president s accusers, quote, should be heard. look at what the president has said in the past few days about dr. blasey ford. we don t know why she s resigning. i m just pointing out areas where she has publicly disagreed with the president. mark. well, so a couple things. one is look what you just went through, just think of the level of exhaustion you would have if you were a high level cabinet secretary, specifically one that often has to go to world leaders and try to walk back the comments, the statements, the remarks of the commander in chief of the united states. not just her. we see this with jim mattis, sure, same with mike pompeo. just an incredible exhaustion level. we don t necessarily know why she s leaving. we would see certainly cabinet officials leaving around this time. we saw marc short, who was not a cabinet official, but the legislative affairs director, not a commentator here at cnn, he left recently as well. you ll see some turnover in the administration. she has broken with him. we should note, though, in a couple high profile things she has stood by him. there was that anonymous op-ed in the new york times where she came out and she was very forceful in her defense of him and said listen, if i have a problem with him, i m not going to the new york times. i m going to walk in his door. that was one. and the second thing, of course, when you re talking about her, and you re talking about donald trump, is the u.n. speech. when he was mocked, right? he was laughed at during the u.n. speech, she came to his defense and tried to explain it away as, oh, they were laughing because they really enjoy his honesty. so nikki haley has done a very good job of politicking, not only within the administration with the president but externally. no question. michelle kaczynski joining us now, our state department correspondent. michelle, is there any sense of why at this time? this is catching a lot of people by surprise. do we know about motivation here? right. okay, so there s lots of speculation, obviously, and people that you talk to around washington who know nikki haley, yes, some of them this morning are surprised. but there are others who say that this was a possibility. they knew this could be a possibility down the road, so to them, it is less surprising. what we don t know, though, is exactly what led up to this being right now, today, this morning. i was just told by a senior state department official that she told her staff this morning. see that was the first that they were at least officially aware that now was the time that she was resigning. remember, there was plenty of speculation she was the author of that op-ed criticizing speculation. of course. we don t know. there s plenty of speculation out there. but as for hard answers, we expect to get those from the white house later on this morning. in just minutes, we ll hear from them in the oval office, in ten minutes, but as we wait for that, just walk us through how critical nikki haley has been for this administration in this post. well, you could say that all foreign policy really comes from the white house. and that everything is dictated by the white house. but she has, as other guests have pointed out, she has been a constant booster for white house decisions. she s been outspoken in defending this administration. she s at times gotten a little farther out on certain issues than the white house has. she s delivered these speeches that have been hard on other countries, and remember when she started in this position, she was calling out countries like iran and russia very forcefully. so she made a name for herself being forceful on these problems that the u.s. has been dealing with. and being tough on other governments. in a way that the president has not. just adding this, i have been texting with congressman on the hill, both democratic and republican, and the one uniform response i have heard from them is surprise. they did not see this. they did not see this coming. elise i m sorry, go ahead, michelle. i wanted to ask elise a question. there was that time, too, that she got farther out than the administration on russia sanctions, which did not seem ultimately to be her fault. she may have been given information and then released it before the white house was ready. but she then responded to criticism of her when the white house said that she was confused about this information. it made headlines around the world when she responded that she doesn t get confused. so while she was a forceful defender of the administration s policies, she also wasn t going to take it when she felt she was taking the blame for something that was not her fault. the president has just tweeted. let me read it for you. big announcement, with my friend, ambassador nikki haley in the oval office at 10:30. again, ten minutes, we ll hear from both of them. elise labott, big announcement. let s not speculate as to what they re discussing here. is it another role, perhaps? but sorry, elise is not there. mark preston, if you re still there, how does this change the president s national security team to lose a voice like this? well, i mean, externally, it s a big, big blow. in many ways, because we re alluding to this earlier, you have the likes of your defense secretary and your secretary of state now and your u.n. ambassador who is constantly having to go overseas and to talk our allies off the ledge after comments that have been made by president trump. and we have seen this time and time again. so you know, not only is she having to worry about this whole new approach to government that donald trump has taken to washington in a way that we have never seen before, but she s also having to fix these problems, these self-inflicted wounds that the administration does to itself and the president does to himself. okay. mark, stick with us. nic robertson is joining us as well. our international diplomatic editor. because she s such a face for the united states on the world stage, are you hearing reaction from around the world? no, but i think it will be perhaps a little while before we do because governments and diplomatic channels will want to take a measured response and see who nikki haley s replacement is going to be. but if you look at the example of britain, nikki haley s relationship with theresa may, the british prime minister, earlier this year, nikki haley was a welcome ally and a welcome voice for theresa may at the white house because she wanted to see a stronger push on russia. she wanted to see sanctions from the united states on russia for what russian operatives were doing, poisoning citizens living in britain. so you know, the skripal poisoning, for example. nikki haley played a key role there, and that was important to the uk. somebody that could be relied upon to have a similar view to british officials. she was outspoken, if we look back in august on the deteriorating humanitarian situation in yemen, which became even more pressing during september with some bombings there of the saudi-led coalition, killing yemeni civilians. that s despite the close relationship between president trump, the white house, and the saudi leadership at the moment. so nikki haley s voice has been one we can see from an international perspective, a little discordant with the views from the white house. so how will, for example, theresa may s office respond? i think at the moment is really is going to be a wait and see what happens next. but the reality is, that s an ally gone, and you need to rebuild allies. one thing that is clear, i m sure you have had the same experience. when i have spoken to diplomats, politicians in countries, particular in the east of europe on the front lines in the conflict with russia, they will frequently cite from nikki haley in support of them, with great strength and conviction, et cetera, as a confidence builder for them. often at times when they have not heard similar statements and reassurances from president trump. richard roth is with us, who has covered the united nations for decades, literally. richard, so your read and what you re hearing in the halls there? i haven t hurt the speculation that preceded me, but it didn t take long after nikki haley was in office that a major security council diplomat who sat with her at the table said she s a politician, and you don t often hear that from u.n. diplomats. my sense would be as people start to get the news is they think that she s got her eye on bigger dreams than the u.n. ambassadorship. she had just completed a very busy one month as the president of the security council, where she demanded all of the meetings of the council be held in the open, in other words, before cameras. that s not the way it s normally done. it did produce a lot of shouting and yelling and tensions with russia, and some say the u.n. should be more open, but a lot of diplomats felt things are best discussed behind closed doors. yes, haley was the rock star, to use that overused term, of the u.n. and it will be interesting to see who might replace her, but nikki haley was on a rocket from south carolina up to the u.n. she didn t attend every meeting. she didn t have to, but she attended the major topics. she didn t really do the party circu circuit. it was the u.s. or forget it. nikki haley walked in the first day and said we ll be taking names. which didn t go down that easily. richard, sorry to interrupt you. i have a reaction from a diplomat at the u.n. to this, and i ll read it as it comes in here. this comes as a surprise. ambassador haley has been a strong and effective advocate for the u.s. she and the secretary-general have had a strong working relationship which has avoided what could have been a breakdown of the u.s./u.n. relationship. that comes from a senior diplomat at the u.n. that characterizes there what has been a real concern of folks at the u.n., other diplomats of u.s. allies where they have had real differences. and real concerns about weakening of american support for those alliances, nato, et cetera. i m so glad you have all these sources and you re getting that. and that also comes at a time when the president has been very critical of the institution of the united nations, et cetera. of funding that she was such a source of strength in that relationship. we should note that the president, via twitter, has said there will be an announcement at 10:30, three minutes from now. we ll bing that to you live. he said he s going to be appearing alongside his now resigned u.n. ambassador, nikki haley. abby phillip, the president has tweeted this announcement. and that s it. have we seen the ambassador arrive at the white house yet? we have seen her here. she did arrive at some point this morning. we saw her physically in the west wing, not too long ago. and i think we ll expect to see them shortly because reporters are about to go into that room. it will be a little bit of a delay before we find out exactly what was said in there, but it is it seems to be happening about on time for this white house. and i would note, also, jim, it was interesting to see president trump conspicuously using the word friend. again, this is an effort by the white house to make sure that the optics around this are fairly positive, but of course, we re going it be working our sources and trying to find out more details about what led up to this moermanment. a lot of people were surprised and did not see this coming at this particular moment. but we will find out more about what they have to say in the next couple minutes. mark preston, knowing the nikki haley that the world has grown to know in this post, she may very likely not dance around in whatever comments she gives in the oval office. she said before i don t want to be a wall flower or a talking head. i want to be able to speak my mind. are you expecting relatively direct answers in just a few minutes here? i think we re going to hear glowing praise from nikki haley of president trump and the administration, and everything that they have accomplished over the past couple years. i mean, look, the fact that it s being done very quickly, we ll find out eventually why she has decided to go. she s decided to resign. perhaps this wasn t as quickly as we thought. perhaps it is, who knows, but i do think the way this is being staged right now by the president, the fact they re doing it together, says something about how they re going to part. and let s say one thing about nikki haley. she may no longer be the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, but again, she s very young and she s an unbelievable politician and has beat back the establishment republican party many, many times, which really made her steeled and prepared her to go into this position with the trump administration where she really was put in some very difficult situations. but she by and large stood her ground but did it in a way that respectful enough to the president that we never heard much criticism from the president about nikki haley as we have heard him about some of his top cabinet folks. a reminder, about now, the president has tweeted some time in the next few moments, he will appear at the white house with nikki haley. the news just breaking, if you have just joined us, that nikki haley has resigned as u.s. ambassador to the united nations, and that president trump has accepted that resignation. the president saying he s going to appear alongside his now former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. very shortly. we ll bring that to you live. susan glasser, cnn foreign affairs analyst, has covered the u.n. and the issues that it s involved with very closely. tell us how substantive, how substantial, significant this is. i think it is extremely significant for this trump foreign policy team. you know, from the beginning, you have had nikki haley being a voice of really much more the republican establishment, you know, clearly at times at odds with the president. but also pushing him toward more hawkish positions on certain issues that he has ultimately adopted. for example, she was a leading voice inside the administration, pushing to withdraw from the iran nuclear deal at a time when h.r. mcmaster, the national security adviser, and jim mattis were against it. and so i think it s very significant that she ll no longer be there. we re waiting, obviously, to hear the framing for it. obviously, the political context strikes me immediately. you do have someone who is a very ambitious politician who has taken a political approach to her tenure at the u.n. she was a newcomer to foreign policy, by all accounts, very adept at it, but very much an outsider in some ways both to the trump administration and also to the world of the foreign policy establishment. yeah. interesting to note that the president arguably has been less critical of the united nations than he has been of nato, eu, other alliances. in fact, sometimes he s tweeted about the potential of the u.n. as a body. certainly no love lost there, talk of cutting u.s. contributions financially, et cetera, but he s been more critical of other u.s. alliances. we know, susan, also that in just april of this we re when reporters asked nikki haley about her relationship with the president, she summed it up with a few words and said it s perfect. notable that the president called her my friend in his announcement of this meeting that should happen at any moment. the cameras will be there and you ll see it live in a minute. what do you think is the most significant thing she has done during her tenure at the united nations, susan? i think she has made it very clear at the u.n. that the united states is willing to be much more aggressive than it has in the past in being an advocate for and partner of israel. she has withdrawn and pushed to withdraw from u.n. bodies that were critical of israel. the human rights council, for example. and i think she has really politically used that platform in many ways to advance her own standing inside the very active republican jewish donor community. she s gotten very much plaudits, i think, for taking a much more aggressive position at the united nations than some of her predecessors when it comes to not standing up for criticism. i think many people, however, will look back on this period and wonder whether, you know, ambassador haley and president trump have really made a rhetorical significant shift in saying we re no longer going to vote with or to give aid to those who vote against us at the united nations. and really appearing to take a much more transactional and conditional approach to u.s. leadership in the world. she certainly was involved with that. she has been a lone voice, it s very important, on things like human rights and freedom when it comes to a trump administration and a president who has not been very interested or engaged in those issues. and so i wonder what the administration will look like with her outside of it, when it comes to those issues of human rights. yeah. michelle, we understand you re getting more reaction from foreign diplomats. right. just surprise. more people shocked that the timing was now. saying they didn t see this coming. people who had spoken to her not long ago. i feel like we have heard that time and time again this morning. that people who spoke to her only recently at the u.n. general assembly, and were surprised by this timing, even though they felt like the fact that she is a politician and many felt that she had political ambitions beyond this, which she has denied, you know, they felt like at some point this would come not necessarily right now today, however, she just got past the u.n. general assembly. they saw her as a very forceful voice for the way the u.s. stands on a number of issues. remember how fiercely she has called out russia, going well beyond the white house on that. she s called out syrian president bashar al assad, but at times foreign diplomats would say the way she would word things, the threats she would make to u.s. allies, saying we re taking names. the u.s. will remember this. if you vote against the way the u.s. and israel are going. and remember, she threw a party once for those who supported the u.s. stance on that. a party that was only for our friends. an invitation went out saying that. she made moves like that that were forceful and you could see the white house and in particular president trump loving, but her counterparts at the u.n. often felt like those were rookie moves or rookie mistakes in their view. and this morning, they re expressing a lot of surprise by the timing of this. so to mark preston, if you re still with us, as we wait, we re going to get tape from the oval office. they re meeting, filming it. you ll see it as soon as we get it, we promise. who would fill her shoes? let s talk about senior women within the president s senior team. ivanka trump, possibly? dina powell. who was until recently the deputy security manager. irk withed in the bush white house. what do you think? whoever the successor is to nikki haley is going to have to navigate many different paths in that white house. when that person comes in, they re going to have to be able to work very well with mike pompeo. at the same time, they have to work well with jared kushner and ivanka trump. you brought up which dina powell does, which dina powell works very closely with jared kushner and ivanka trump. correct. starts to check the boxes. this is when we start to do the box checking. but there s been some talk that ivanka trump, as you said, would like that position herself. and who s to say that her father wouldn t put her in that position? who knows? i can say this though. i can say that the president is loving every mbt of this because this is really playing into this whole reality tv atmosphere of this presidency. we re going to leak a little something out. get us all worked up, and we re all worked up because we re really interested. this is a very important position, and then we ll let it play out a little bit. give us little kernels, little crumbs, and then he s going to release it. it does play right into the presidency. he loves a show, he loves an announcement. dina powell is a name that s been mentioned, and we have a couple of our reporters here who are noting that as a possibility. again, it s early. another name, ivanka trump. mark preston, is that a genuine possibility? and it was already unprecedented for a president to have a daughter as a senior adviser in the white house. as a u.n. ambassador, possible? sure. anything is possible in a trump presidency. i don t think the rails are on the lanes anymore at the bowling alley. they re just not. so if donald trump, you know, really wants to put her in that role, i m sure he can do it. in many ways you have to wonder why she would want that role. does she want separation? assuming that s the case, does she want to get back to new york? there s been talk about how her and her husband would like to get back to new york. that could get them back to new york. i would argue this. i think she s in such a powerful position being right next to the president that i don t know why anybody would want that position if she was really looking for power. let me jump to this, as someone who interviewed ivanka trump before and knows her interests and area of work, one of them right now is on advocacy around the globe. and particularly when it comes to women s issues, and it s something she doesn t make a lot of headlines for, but it is an area where a lot of her werk has gone. i do think she may have some interest in a role like this that would truly put her on the world stage and put her focus on some more of the global issues where she may be able to have some success. what do you think? you know what it would do, again, speculative, we re kind of guessing here, but it would allow her to carve her own path. it would allow her to get out a little further from her father s shadow. right now, she s right next to him. but she goes to new york. having said that, she s still going to have to promote and push and advocate her father s policies which will always put her in debt to her father and always link her to her father, no matter how she tries to separate herself. folks, if you re just joining us, nikki haley has resigned as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. the president has accepted that resignation, and right now, the president has said this. he s tweeted this. they are meeting at the white house. and the president has said there will be an announcement, once we have that announcement, it will be on tape. we ll turn it around and broadcast it for you. abby phillip, if you re still there, we re hearing some reporting that haley may have raised this possibility last week at the white house. do we know about the timing and how much advance notice there may have been involved here? yeah, that s something that we re still working out the details of, but it seems very clear at the moment that a lot of senior people within the white house, and even around nikki haley, were caught by surprise by this, but we are hearing from some sources that it was raised among a very small group within the white house as early as last week. even though this is something that is being talked about kind of all the time around this trump administration. last week, we re hearing from a source, that she may have raised this issue with a small group of advisers, leaving some others who are pretty senior here in the dark. so it was clearly closely held, and note the timing on that. this would have been in the middle of a major, major battle for this white house. they were in the middle of the kavanaugh confirmation. obviously, not trying to layer on multiple issues if they can avoid it at any point. now that that is clear, we re finally getting word of her resignation. so as we get more, we ll get it to you. but clearly, this was something that was very, very closely held up until even this morning when a lot of senior people here seemed to have no idea it was coming. we re getting some notes from inside the oval office. trump and haley together. we don t have the tape, but what they re saying, they talked about the hurricane, but the president saying nikki haley has been very special to me. she s done an incredible job, a fantastic person. she gets it. been at the u.n. since the beginning. the president goes on, again, these are notes from inside the oval office provided from cnn reporter inside. she told me six months ago, the president says, that maybe at the end of the year, she would want to take a break. so at least from those initial comments from the president and her at least portrayed there in those comments as a friendly departure, that the president is saying he had some advanced knowledge of. our michelle kaczynski is with us as well, who covers the state department. michelle, i think you do have, we re hearing, new reporting on this. what can you tell us? we have found out earlier from a senior state department official that she just notified her top staff about this resignation this morning. so that was the first that at least many of them, according to this source, knew about it. now we re being told by another diplomatic source connected to the u.n. that what she told them was that she has done her two years and now it s time to move on. any further detail than that, i assume, we ll get soon from the white house. but we re also hearing from a senior foreign diplomat, more surprise that she was well liked at the u.n., according to this source. and that they didn t see this coming. yeah. richard roth, if you re still there over at the u.n., as poppy was saying, you have a few years in that building, you know it well. he was, and i heard this from a u.n. diplomat she, rather, was seen as a bulwark against the outliers, you might say, in the trump administration. someone that folks, diplomats in the u.n. trusted to help keep that relationship going. ambassadors did praise her. they liked the fact she got the trains rolling and would demand further action and say, hey, why is this peace keeping mission still there? where is the money going? i think they liked that part. the politics maybe coming more from washington, they were totally against the u.s., and the united states was historically sometimes the only country voting a certain way in the security council or the general assembly on the middle east and other issues. there was always a sense haley would leave. what michelle is quoting is someone saying she did her two years. it s been about a year and seven months. and you just can t help but look ahead down the political calendar. unless there is some other problem we don t know about. nikki haley was the u.s. ambassador here and was more well known than any other diplomat. no one knows who the secretary-general is if you go out on the streets. it was the haley show. she was tough, she was strong. they said behind the scenes she was more of a moderating force between the trump administration and the u.n., as we have been discussing this morning. and not just from the u.n. two names that come up, when you meet with foreign diplomats, officials from u.s. allies. they will say general mattis. right. and nikki haley give us comfort about our relationship with the u.s., that some of the more controversial things that come from this president or the white house about nato, et cetera, balanced by the positions, the statements, the assurances they received from a haley or mattis. mattis, our reporting has been that the relationship with trump is not particularly warm these days and now nikki haley leaving. mark preston, back to you. whoever replaces nikki haley will need to be confirmed. it s going to have to be someone who has strong relationships on the hill, across parties. our dana bash points out in her reporting, ivanka trump has worked to build those relationships, especially with female democratic senators. how important for nikki haley s replacement, whomever it may be, to have, as jim points out, to be someone who gives reassurance, not pause, to our allies overseas? well, i think that s extremely important. we would hope that all of the senators when they re taking this into consideration, whoever they choose to take into consideration what the person s background is, what their knowledge is, what their relationships are around the world. i will tell you this, though. i have spoken to folks who have told me how important it is, and this is very well understood within the administration, how important it is to send somebody that is close to the president to key countries when you re dealing with the ambassadors, and also using this position right here as somebody that when world leaders hear nikki haley speak, they know she s speaking for donald trump. whoever follows in her footsteps has got to be able to do the same thing. otherwise, that person is going to be extremely ineffective. so let s assume that it is someone like dina powell, who has a long resume, very well respected. jim, you know, you have dealt with her a lot as well. over the years. she is somebody that is very well respected. if it s somebody like ivanka trump, it will give pause. no question, it will give pause to world leaders about her experience, and it will give them a little sense of probably relief knowing that whoever they would talk to, if that s her, then they would at least have the president s ear. but it does come down to the u.s. senate and the whole confirmation battle. there could be the small issue of nepicism as well, just imagine that. we re getting more details. as we have been speaking, the president and nikki haley have been together in the white house. we ll see this tape momentarily, but we have notes from reporters inside. this news, president trump says haley will be leaving at the end of this year. not leaving tomorrow but staying in the position through the end of the year. we also learned that haley s resignation caught john bolton and mike pompeo by surprise. that s significant given how closely she works with them. it caught both of them by surprise. trust me, i m hearing that from democrats and republicans on the hill as well. one final note from the notes inside, from reporters inside the oval office meeting, the president and ambassador making every effort to make nice with this departure. showering each other with praise. the president saying that she telegraphed this to him some several months ago. the idea being that the president attempting to make clear he was not taken by surprise by this, this was always in the plan, and that they re leaving each other on good terms. that s the sense we re getting from inside the oval office as they speak to reporters. we ll have that tape momentarily. nic robertson, big picture on the world stage. if you think about the totality of the relationship that the united states has now under the leadership of president trump with our allies and what has been strained and what has been strengthened, how do you think nikki haley has been most integral in those relationships? on the issues that allies have wanted to see president trump be tough on, in particular, russia, because that s one that he seems to be sensitive on and not one that he s wanted to push as allies in britain and france and germany, the baltic states, have all wanted him to be, nikki haley has been a source of comfort. she has understood intrinsically the concerns of the baltic states. they re so close to russia, so close to its transgressions in ukraine and crimea. that when terresheresa may was appealing to the united states for diplomatic support, when the russian military agents poisoned or tried to poison sergei skripal and his daughter back in march earlier this year, nikki haley was seen as a source of comfort to relay that message and strengthen the united states resolve. if you re one of the united states enemies, and iran would certainly be front and center on that, nikki haley has been an absolute powerful advocate, even before we really got into the run-up to president trump removing, pulling the united states out of that international joint nuclear deal, the jcpoa. i remember standing at the international atomic energy agency in vienna, responsible for overseeing details in that agreement. nikki haley came not long after she was appointed to the united nations as ambassador and she told the top diplomat there, the secretary-general that he needed to get tougher on the iranian inspections. they needed to push harder and be tougher. and i have to say, at that time, standing there talking to officials there, it really raised eyebrows. if you are one of the united states enemies, and nikki haley steps out of this position, then perhaps you breathe a tiny bit easier for a while until you see what comes next. other news other news, nic, coming in as we speak. these are notes from inside the oval office where the president is appearing alongside nikki haley, some speculation there has been about her running in 2020. she s putting that speculation to rest saying she s going to be campaigning for president trump in 2020. we have david gergen on the phone now. he s served four u.s. presidents, republican and democrat. describe how significant a loss this is for this administration. is it destabilizing in your view? no, i don t think it s destabilizing but it s a significant loss. nikki haley was one of the people that donald trump has trusted most. they seem to be very simpatico. she s also popular in the cabinet generally. very importantly, she sends out a signal of a woman who is standing by the president s side. a popular woman, a woman who has had guts when she was governor of south carolina. in that sense, it s a political blow. it also you know, there s a great deal of speculation, has been for some time, about what her political future might be after the u.n. that did not seem the last stop in the road, much of the speculation centered on whether donald trump could make her his vice presidential candidate in 2020, whether she might play a significant role, whether she might step up to be secretary of state at some point. often, the u.n. can be a stepping stone to the secretary of state position. ask madeleine albright. that s an interesting point, the fact we just learned from our reporting that secretary of state mike pompeo and national security adviser john bolton were caught unaware, were surprised by the announcement. you would think they would be in the loop, no? absolutely. especially since the argument is that she was tired and everybody sort of knew that she would want to resign after two years. i don t think anybody knew, at least anybody that we know about knew. so there s still a great deal of mystery about this resignation. presumably, the story will come out over the next couple days. but right now, i think the truth is that none of us on the outside really knows why she did it. abby phillip, if you re still there, the president being effusive about his u.n. ambassador here. the ambassador being effusive about the president here, describing a warm relationship. how much they admire each other. is that accurate, abby phillip, or have they had disagreements? i think a lots of people would characterize president trump s relationship with nikki haley as her being for a long time in this administration kind of a golden child. they did have a very close relationship, especially at times when president trump had a tougher relationship with some other members of his foreign policy team. rex tillerson earlier on in the administration. nikki haley was seen as someone who spoke for president trump, even through those times when she would seem to distance herself a little bit from him. i think that they had a mutual respect for each other after a bruising campaign in which she opposed him for a lot of that campaign. they had come to be much closer to each other. i think people close to the president describe nikki haley as being someone who was very much a student of president trump. she understood how to talk to him, how to execute what he wanted out of his foreign policy, and was seen as someone who did do that for a long time in this administration. there were not many people who were seen as having the gruviavs and the respect of president trump to speak for him on the world stage. now there are more people around president trump like mike pompeo who have that aura around them, but she was one of few for a while in the administration. i would also add president trump, according to the notes coming out of their meeting today, noted that nikki haley has actually elevated the position of u.s. ambassador to the united nations. and he says a lot of people now want this job because she s made it basically a job that people want. so i think he views her very highly, and he thinks she s done something different with that job. a lot of people were not sure how you could have a u.n. ambassador given this administration s sometimes adversarial posture toward institutions like that. and nikki haley was seen as someone who was able to thread that line. i think that s what you re hearing from president trump today. very adept at that. michelle kaczynski, let me jump back to you for more of your reporting on this. sure. she told her staff this morning that she had done her two years, and it was time to go. so without getting a lot more information than that, she took her own staff by surprise. in at least many cases that we know of. and we re hearing from senior diplomatic sources that both john bolton and mike pompeo were, quote, blindsided by this news. we know the president from the notes coming out of what he s saying now, she told him about six months ago that she had done her job and she was looking for a break or to move on. well, apparently, not too many other people knew about this because what we keep talking about today is the surprise of diplomats at the u.n., of people around her, even other cabinet members. so why this was so closely held, even to people like the secretary of state and the national security adviser, that s what we re waiting to find out. but that s the word that is circulating now among those close to nikki haley and her position. other news coming out of the oval office, this is where as we speak the president and nikki haley have been meeting, talking, showering each other with praise and talking about the departure. but the president said he will name her successor within the next two or three weeks. okay. you would assume taking a number of questions because this has been going on for a while, since 10:30 in the morning. they re turning the tape so you ll hear it soon. but again, nikki haley, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, resigning. a surprise to all of us. a surprise to mike pompeo, the secretary of state, and john bolton. the national security adviser. to all of your sources as well. to folks inside the u.n. where nikki haley, like in a lot of places, was seen as a moderating force for a president who often gave them concerns about u.s. alliances and positions abroad. david is with us, a global affairs analyst. how do you see this and the timing and the fact it was such a surprise? i think it hurts the president in terms of the lack of women on the foreign policy team. and i agree with what jim said. she was sort of a moderating voice. there s senate personality in the foreign policy team is mike pompeo, who as secretary of state is a hard liner on iran, and he s really the dominant force. he was sort of overshadowing nikki haley. also overshadowed john bolton, and the president loves him because pompeo is so tough on iran. so that voice, that viewpoint, is going to grow stronger. okay. no question. we have richard roth at the u.n. of course, ambassador haley s home base for a couple years now. speak about moderating influences. also confidence building influence that nikki haley gave to u.s. allies. look, she presented a very good look politically or otherwise for the united states at the u.n. and when she guided president trump around the u.n. two weeks ago at the special general assembly, it was like presenting him with look at where you are. they scheduled extra meetings almost as if to say to president trump, the u.n. is not so bad. there s a meeting we re going to do on drugs you care about and the opioid epidemic and a meeting on iran, but we re not going to call it about iran. we re going to broaden it out. also in the streets of new york and elsewhere, nikki haley was one of the few people in this trump administration who trump supporters loved and many people who don t like donald trump also loved. a lot of that has to do with israel, i think, and jewish americans who support israel love the tough stance she took in trying to battle an anti-israel lineup among the 193 u.n. member countries. i think she may have just decided it was better to get out now. she can t go any higher in her standing and perhaps the bolton/pompeo combination a little more restrictive than rex tillerson was when he was secretary of state. nikki haley had free reign, and she was in effect the spokesman to the world for the united states for the first few months. and richard roth, listen, there s a narrative that the white house is pushing out that this has been in the works for months, that the president knew about it, they re leaving on the happiest of terms. our colleague saying there are questions about that, even within the administration. because there are several folks within the administration, including in the state department and elsewhere, who are surprised by this, that word if it had been or warning if it had been given to the president some months ago, they did not hear it. and listen, this is four weeks before the midterms, after a bruising kavanaugh fight. lots of questions still to be answered. we ll hear directly from nikki haley and the president in less than two minutes.