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john lennon was shot by an unknown at this time white male. the world has reacted with immense shock and grief to the first rock and roll assassination. it was like in one moment the 60s and the 70s got murdered. in his life he s given more love than most men and women on the face of this earth. we re here to prove that love is not dead, even though john is. you start the decade with the death of a beatle. you don t really know where you re going to go from that point. you know, culturally or musically. for a while it seemed there was nothing new on the horizon. announcing the latest achievement in home entertainment. the power of sight. the power of sound. stereo. mtv. music television. we all are so excited about this new concept in tv. we ll be doing for tv what fm did for radio.
don t stand so close to me why do you think we re so popular over there? well, there s a tradition that goes back over the past 20 years from the days of the beatles and the rolling stones where british bands seem to be better at it than americans. the police have sold 4 million albums in one year. rolling stone chose them as best new band of the year. taking note of the swirling, dreamy soaring quality of the sound. giant steps are what you take walking on the moon it was incredible to see them. and i couldn t believe what i was hearing out of three people. i was shocked. i once read that you were called the pink floyd of the 80s. what do you think of that? we re not at all. we re the cure of the 80s. the holy trinity of
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culture. it changed the entire dynamic of what you had to do as far as promotion was concerned. you had to be a performance artist as well as a musician. the intelligent ones recognized that it s a marriage between the visual artist and the musician at this point. monkey don t you know you re going to shock the monkey the man or the woman who finds the right combination will take it all. let s dance put on your red shoes and dance the blues when david and i decided that we were going to work together, it was pretty clear to me that david wanted to make a commercial album. now i m going to go make a pop record. but it was going to be his version of pop. my songs always tend to be impressionistic or even have a surreal quality to them. and on this album is the first time i ve really tried to adapt
to a didactic kind of approach to songwriting. if you should fall into my arms tremble like a flower artists in the 80s, david bowie for that matter, realized if you wanted to make it you needed to be on mtv. but there s one group that s not happy with mtv. many black artists who have been told their music doesn t fit the format. that s what s happening. we re being sat in the back of the bus television style. and if pittman gets away with this and there are other cable shows that do it they re going to try it. mtv doesn t exclude black acts. what mtv does exclude is music that is not rock and roll. mtv came out with no consideration on how to infuse black music into their mix. i m just floored by the fact there are so few black artists featured on it. why is that? we have to try and do what we think not only new york and los angeles will appreciate but also
some town in the midwest that will be scared to death by prince or a string of other black faces. interesting. okay. thank you very much. when are we going to see anybody of color on mtv, because you said music television. when are you going to start covering all genres of music? music shouldn t have color. i don t believe in that. i don t want it labeled black or white, i want it labeled music. [ cheers and applause ] [ billie jean ] 1983, motown has this big tv special, motown s 25th anniversary. at that time thriller is out and thriller is doing well. but michael jackson couldn t get billie jean on mtv. she was more like a beauty queen from a movie scene when the rest of the world was going crazy and he can t get
on mtv? michael jackson? come on. when he does that moonwalk, if you were sitting on the couch by the end of it you were on the floor in front of the tv. you couldn t believe what you were seeing. i would say the moonwalk was really one of the first viral moments that affected rock history. the next week thriller started selling a million copies a week. i like michael jackson because he s bad, he knows how to dance. he s so sexy and so gorgeous. he s exciting! michael jackson is the man of the 80s. mtv starts to get pressure from cbs records, which was michael jackson s label. rock and roll in itself was really the thing that broke a lot of rules. when you re very successful, you try to make your own rules occasionally. as the story goes, cbs essentially said we will pull every other artist we have on mtv if you don t play this. they had to be essentially blackmailed into doing it.
it doesn t matter who s wrong or right just beat it he was the artist that mtv really needed. they didn t know they needed him, but boy, when we started to see those michael jackson videos, it was just unbelievable. then there was the domino effect. suddenly you see prince videos from warner brothers do the same thing. tonight we re gonna party like it s 1999 prince wasn t just materializing out of nowhere. where was he before this video was done? prince was a huge star on black radio stations. i mean, people he had a underground cult following and he was a very sexy, hot performer. the sweat of your body covers me can you, my darling, can you picture this prince loved the idea that he was taking his punk funk music and turning it on to a white audience, and that wouldn t have happened if not for mtv.
this is what it sounds like when doves cry when i was younger, i always said that one day i was going to play all kinds of music and not be judged for the color of my skin but the quality of my work. only want to see you only want to see you in the purple rain prince had a great androgyny. he blurred the gender line. he sings, he writes, he plays. every time i see him it s just like, really? okay, i quit. when he plays guitar, it s just part of his body in a way that i ve never really seen before. and it s not contrived. it s just it s just happening. what was his music? was it r&b? his music was just straight down the middle mainstream grab you
by the throat and balls pop. we go down to the river and into the river we die at this point a lot of it is about being there, which is why we haven t done too much of the video thing. a lot of it allows too much distance. like what our band is about is about breaking down distance. at night i wake up bruce was all about credibility and intelligence and integrity. so how would he translate his music and his attitude toward the world to what seemed like this frivolous world of the music video? bruce is not going to be next to a winking model on a sailboat. you can t start a fire you can t start a fire without a spark this gun s for hire he ends up doing essentially a concert video starring a then unknown courteney cox.
it s like this weird recreation of something that organically happens in a bruce springsteen concert. born in the usa if there was an artist in the 80s who transcended the music video he s the guy. he s the guy that didn t need to do great music videos to still be a great artist. he s bruce springsteen. it was great music. born in the usa hi! leaving a career to follow a calling takes courage.
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it is unlikely they are going to abandon their nuclear program. you are behind a rock and a hard place if you re president trump. how do you deal with this? there are options, but it seems like the options they are pursuing now are having the alternative effect. what it seems like they have to do is just try to put more pressure on china as seems to be one of the only leverages they have now. and at that point, not to cut you off, but i want to welcome our viewers in the united states and everyone watching from around the world. you are joining us for breaking news out of north korea. speaking to ian in seoul. let s bring you up to speed with what we know now. there are reports of an earthquake in north korea not long after pyongyang claimed to have a nuclear weapon. the u.s. geological survey said it was a 6.3 magnitude explosion. it is unclear if this was actually a nuclear test. we want to be clear.
we do not know this as a fact. it has not been confirmed yet. what we can tell you is that south korean officials say they believe the tremor was manmade. north korean state media said they had a hydrogen bomb and ran these images you are looking at now on screen. they put these out, purporting to show kim jong-un inspecting the device. let s go now to will ripley who joins me now on the line from tokyo. will, you are just back from north korea. as you say, you are just waking up in tokyo now. you were in north korea the last couple of days. when you were there, was there any indication that there was a nuclear test on the horizon? well, all last week when we were reporting for north korea we reiterated that it was around this time last year they conducted their fifth nuclear test. that nuclear test happened
shortly before the end of the joint military drills between the u.s. and south korea which always infuriate the north korean government. this infur yated them for a long time. a week before the drills ended last week they conducted their fifth nuclear tests. the drills this year ended on thursday. while we saw that provocative launch over japan, north korea didn t give any warning of an impending nuclear test. what they have done is put out messaging over the past couple of days talking about their nuclear program and how it is increasingly advanced and urging the united states to shift the longstanding position of not acknowledging north korea as a nuclear weapons state. this is something north korea is demanding as a precondition for any kind of discussion with the united states and its allies. that the notion that north korea throw away its nuclear program,
be taken off the table. north korea says it won t happen no matter what sanctions or diplomatic pressure is on them. they believe they have made too much progress and they believe these weapons are the leverage that will guarantee down the road long-term a better future, a better life for the north korean people. the north koreans will come to the diplomatic table from a position of strength as opposed to what the united states would like to see which is a crippled north korean regime becoming financially desperate enough to have discussions and perhaps throw away the nuclear program. we got in there last week. there were a number of discussions. they said time and again that s not going to happen. what the latest test demonstrates is an increase in their abilities. the earthquake that was created by last year s explosion around this time was 5.3. this is a 6.3 magnitude explosion. it is a much larger nuclear device they tested. they also put out a picture of
north korea s supreme leader kim jong-un standing next to what looks like and what north korea claims is a miniaturized nuclear warhead being loaded on a ballistic missile. north korea said they have an increasing capability and they are calling on the u.s. to change their position on acknowledging north korea as a nuclear weapons state. then perhaps there could be talks on north korea s terms. i thought when i was in pyongyang a couple of days ago perhaps that meant that the situation would deescalate and this would go into a holding pattern for a while. clearly after the bomber and fighter jet fly over on the korean peninsula north korea has upped the ante in a big way. they are not concerned about sanctions or international condemnation. they are going all in on this strategy to show the world that they are becoming increasingly advanced with the nuclear arsenal. they put out a news bulletin in the past 12 hours saying these
warheads are 100% home made. which means they say they have all the materials they need to build these nuclear weapon s inside north korea now. they don t need to trade with other countries to build these weapons. they say you can try cutting us off but we can build as many as we want. if you continue this policy we ll continue building more and more weapons and become more of a threat to the international community including the mainland u.s. will, the point you made about having the capabilities to build the components for the nuclear ballistic devices internally was one that struck me as i read the reporting put out by k cna, the state media. looking at a north korea that s gone past the point of any return. essentially if what they are claiming is true, if they are
completely willing to ignore sanctions and the threat of more significant action, at this point you have to ask what s left on the table in terms of a means for bargaining with north korea. the united states has leverage in bargaining with north korea. north korea has long wanted normalized relations with the united states. they have wanted a more normalized relationship with much of the international community. what north korean officials have been telling me for years, this last trip was my 14th trip to north korea over the last three years. every single trip they used the same terminology. they say the united states has, in their eyes a hostile policy. they would like that to change. from the united states perspective this is difficult. what north korea has done by testing these nuclear devices and launching missiles is in flagrant violation of international law. so for a long time the united states government has said why would we reward a country that s
violating international law repeatedly and flagrantly and by acknowledging them as a nuclear weapons state or being willing to have discussions, give them concessions. there are people in the united states that feel any assistance, any aid given to north korea has only gone to further strengthen their development of the nuclear arsenal. there is another viewpoint they have come so far with these weapons that if the world continues its strategy that s proven to be a failure and in fact vladimir putin just a couple of days ago said he believes putting pressure on north korea s rhetoric, sanctions he believes will make the situation more dangerous. north korea has shown the world that despite round after round, round seven of u.n. security sanctions was passed. despite all of that. despite attempts to cut them off they have found ways to get
around the sanctions to continue bringing in money through any means necessary and possible. and they have continued to advance. more quickly than analysts believed they would. now you have yet another apparent nuclear test at the nuclear test site creating an explosion so powerful it could be felt across the border in china. you have north korea saying they are not worried about what china will do. they are not worried about the united states is going to do, japan or south korea. they are going to do what they see as necessary to protect their national sovereignty and more importantly for them to continue to have leverage over the rest of the world. they have essentially created a scenario where even though the united states is far more wealthy and far more powerful north korea has something that the united states is going to be hard-pressed to find a response to.
military analysts would say a military option against north korea would be far too dangerous. the humanitarian consequences would be catastrophic. what option does it leave the united states? the united states needs to talk with north korea. a lot of people in washington don t like to reward them for bad, illegal behavior. if they don t others say this is going to continue to escalate and become more dangerous. north korea is not stopping nuclear development. will ripley joining us on the line with great insight. we appreciate it. stand by for us. we ll come back to you for your expertise. we want to take a minute and bring in colonel rick francona from oregon, a cnn military analyst and retired lieutenant colonel. thank you for being with us. as will just said is it time for
the u.s. to speak to north korea and to come to the table without the expectation that this is a state that can be denuclearized? is it time to let go of the idea especially in light of everything we have heard in the last couple of hours? the possible nuclear test and the sense that they may have, indeed, been able to conquer hydrogen technology, hydrogen nuclear technology. if you listen to the statements made by secretary of defense mattis and secretary of state rex tillerson we are getting to that point. they have to keep up the standard u.s. position that we will not discuss things with north korea until they disavow themselves of a nuclear program. most people realize and will gave an excellent rundown. i don t think there is a chance the north koreans will give up this program. this is in their constitution. they believe it is in their strategic national interest. they believe it is the only thing that keeps them from being
over taken, attacked by the united states. whether that s true or not isn t important. it is their perception. it is the perception of their people. that s what they believe. that they have to have the strategic nuclear deterrent to keep themselves in power. as long as that s the case, i don t see anything that s going to make them want to discuss giving up their nuclear weapons. what s the option? the united states has to determine how to live with a nuclear armed north korea. we have lived with others in the past russia and the chinese. we have been able to develop a deterrent posture with them. mutually assured destruction. the north koreans know any attack on the united states would be met with overwhelming military force leading to the end of the country. kim jong-un doesn t want to use a weapon. he wants to own them because he believes that gives him leverage. that s what makes him a viable world power. colonel francona, has the
north korea leader backed the u.s. president into a corner? i say that in light of president trump s statements of fire and fury, if north korea continues to escalate threats and carry out provocative actions. well, what now? what now from president trump? president trump drew a line which north korea swiftly jumped over. what now for the president? if you look you go back in history. we have been dealing with this problem for years, for decades. it was always kick the can down the road. they don t have the technology. they are not ready yet. we still have time. well, we don t have time anymore. the koreans ramped up this program. they have acquired these capabilities much faster than most people thought they could. now we are faced with the end game. we have to do something. so it s not that they backed president trump into a corner. they backed the united states into a corner.
they have done this successfully for each presidential administration. now there is no more road to kick the can onto. we are where the rubber meets the road. something needs to happen. we have to determine what our policy will be rather than saying we have time. we don t have time. are you surprised by how quickly they are moving with their nuclear program, how quickly the tests are ha iin ha. how are they doing it? they put their entire national resources into it. this is their number one priority. every resource they have, all of the top scientists in the country are working on these programs. we have concurrent programs. you have the nuclear weapons and the ballistic missiles. they are both important. these technologies combine into
a capability they want. we are almost there. in fact, if what kim jong-un demonstrated today is real, they have achieved that combination of the two technologies. and so am i surprised? you know, the north koreans are good engineers. i have seen a lot of their equipment over the years. we have gotten our hands on some of it. it s well made, well engineered. am i surprised they have the capability to do it? not really. i am surprised at the speed which they are developing. the timeline is compressing so fast. as i say, they are developing capabilities faster than we are coming up with policies to deal with it. yeah, very true. colonel, please stay with us. we want to keep your valuable insight. we are going to hit pause for a second. adam mountain joins us from washington. thank you so much for joining us. let s get your reaction to what could well be north korea s
sixth nuclear test. it does look like it was a sixth nuclear test. the magnitude was higher than previous tests. earlier tonight north korea released photographs of what it said was a two-stage thermonuclear weapon, an advanced system. it said the warhead could fit in an icbm. in fact, that it was loaded into an icbm they say is capable of reaching the continental united states. we can t verify all of the details they released in the statement. this appears to have been a very large test. they have boosted the yield of their weapons. we need to take that capability seriously. take it seriously and respond how from the u.s. perspective? well, the interesting thing is a thermonuclear weapon doesn t necessarily mean deterrence is impossible.
you can devastate a city with a hiroshima-style bomb like the one we dropped. we already knew the north koreans had that. this would up the yield. it would be capable of greater devastation and damage. but the facts about deterrence, what the united states and allies need to do to prevent north korea from using a nuclear weapon are roughly the same. we expect that north korea doesn t want to utilize a weapon out of the blue to attack the u.s. homeland. we think they would want to use one if it felt the regime was facing i vags. the first priority is to re-establish a strong defensive posture on the peninsula to ensure the weapons are never used. what does that look like? i mean, there is already the construction of the t.h.a.d. anti-missile system in south
korea. what are you talking about? strengthening defense pacts between the u.s. and allies, japan and south korea? break it down for us. the trump administration has not mounted a firm and visible response that north korea has tested missiles at an accelerated pace throughout the spring or this icbm which was a critical time for the united states. one thing we should be looking at is what are the new military capabilities, defensive military capabilities that could help to prevent north korea from agresing. agresing against allied forces. one thing that concerned me tonight was the statement that kcna released with the photographs saying this nuclear warhead was capable of variable
yield. they could dial down the yield to a lower yield which suggests that north korea is not just thinking about having a capability to retaliate against american cities in the event of invasion, but in fact they are thinking about how to use the nuclear weapons for blackmail, potentially to use them in a wider range of circumstances and situations. the priority now should be to abandon this fool ser rand to draw out of the free trade agreement announced today. stand tough with allies and make sure we have the capabilities necessary to deny north korea from any kind of aggression. at low levels of escalation and at the nuclear level. adam, let me ask you this question which people are divided on. where do you stand on this point of the u.s. saying that talks with north korea will not
proceed unless north korea expresses the willingness or takes action to freeze its nuclear program and ultimately denuclearize. is that a fool s errand? i think denuclearization is an important long-term goal. is it realistic? i think we should think of it as a long-term goal, not as a short-term solution. the short-term priorities are in deterrence and defense, strengthening american alliances. if they focused too much on denuclearization they are starting to overlook the near-term imperatives. the other important thing that happened is talks could stand a reasonable chance of promoting stability on the peninsula. you have to abandon this insistence on going for broke with denuclearization in order to get there. in august the united states and north korea said they restrained
themselves from taking provocative action. north korea in slowing the missile tempo, the united states in refraining from flights. unfortunately neither of these restraint messages got across. there was miscommunication. neither side was willing to take the first step in solidifying that regime of restraint. if we are going to maintain deterrence and want any hope of slowing missile tests they ve got to have the direct talks that are focused on arms control and the peninsula. before i let you go, we have to talk china. this administration has placed a great amount of faith in china s ability to rein in north korea. not just this administration. past administrations have also made the point because it is true china is the north s biggest trading partner and have significant leverage that has not led to north korea changing its actions.
what is your expectation in terms of a response from beijing in light of this possible sixth nuclear test and after the sanctions passed by the u.n. that china signed on to enforce vigorously. china does sign on to a new u.n. sanction when there is a missile test, especially a nuclear test. we can expect they will reconvene the council and push for a tough new resolution. we should be skeptical of whether or not that economic pressure forces the north korean regime to behave in ways that we want. whether it has the effects we desire or whether it s just a way of looking tough for the international community and domestic audiences. what are the things we need to explore over the long run? if we can step back from denuclearization, stop manufacturing a crisis in the near term, whether china would help us deter north korea.
remember the primary interest is stability on the peninsula. if they start to understand that north korea is destabilizing to the region they may be willing to coordinate with us in deterring north korea from aggressing. general dunford s veft to beijing in the north of china this month or earlier in august was a good sign that this coordination could occur. that s something we need to explore. we can t get there if we are still going for broke on denuclearization. all right. adam joining us there. we appreciate it. thank you for the insight and analysis. it s absolutely been fascinating to get your thoughts on this evening. thank you. thank you. i want to bring in ian lee who joins me now from seoul, south korea. what s the latest from where you are. are we getting any more reaction to this possible sixth nuclear
test by north korea? what are you hearing? the national security council is meeting here in seoul. they will be discussing this earthquake. we heard the joint chiefs of staff are investigating whether it was, in fact, a nuclear test. all signs have been pointing to the fact that this does appear to be a nuclear test. they have increased the alert level for the military in south korea. they are also increasing the surveillance of the north to determine what exactly happened and see what s going on there. it s an interesting thing to point out that in 2016 when that nuclear test happened in north korea it was a 5.3 on the richter scale. now we are seeing this one today is a 6.3.
how the richter scale works every point up is ten times for powerful. that s not to say whatever caused this earthquake is ten times more powerful than the last one. it just says according to the richter scale this earthquake is ten times more powerful than the previous one in 2016. so that s something to give the experts insight into what exactly happened. but we are also monitoring north korean state television. they usually come out fairly quickly with some celebratory statement saying they have carried out a nuclear test. so we are watching closely to see when and if they do that. but right now things are tense at least for the government here because they are monitoring, trying to figure out, scrambling the national security council meeting now. we will be waiting to hear what they have to say once they are out of the meeting. ian, want you to put
something in context for me. if this was a nuclear test, again, we want to stress to the viewers who may just be joining us. there was this explosion according to the usgs it was 6.3 on the richter scale. it has not been confirmed that it was a nuclear test. but if, indeed, that s what took place in north korea the sixth one. i mean, to what degree does this change our assessment of the threat posed by north korea to those in the region and the u.s.? well, this just shows that from what the richter scale says from the magnitude of this earthquake that it appears to be a larger device if it was, in fact, a nuclear weapon. the interesting thing earlier today just in the last 24 hours north korea came out and said they have the capabilities of putting a hydrogen bomb on an
intercontinental ballistic missile. that s something experts thought north korea was months if not years away from achieving. but now according to state media who showed pictures of north korean leader kim jong-un at their nuclear facility inspecting this nuclear bomb and how it would be put on an icbm, that s very significant because previously we knew north korea could strike the region and could strike the united states with a missile. but they hadn t been able to put a nuclear device on the missiles. now they say they are capable of doing that. that comes as what appears to be a test of a nuclear weapon. that s a strong show of force from the north koreans. it comes as president trump had a phone conversation with the japanese prime minister abe talking about what they could do to put pressure on north korea. they talked about diplomatic isolation. they talked about economic
sanctions. as we have heard from will ripley s reporting in north korea, that doesn t seem to have an effect. in fact, it has a reverse effect where it galvanized them to achieve their goal of having an advanced nuclear program for what they say is a deterrent to what they perceive as western aggression which the united states and south korea says is laughable because they say the only thing they are doing is defensive measures. these drills we saw this last week, they say they are just defensive measures as a show of force. but they say all the drills that are conducted, all the military exercises conducted between the two countries, they are a defensive posture. that s not seen as that way in north korea. so you have a lack of understanding really with the united states just having the reverse effect. really now we re watching what china has to say about this latest development. really, they are the big player in the region that we haven t
heard from. china, that s where eyes are are going to be looking at, too, to see what their response is to this latest perceived nuclear test. stand by for us. i want to bring in rick francona who s joining us there from oregon. you heard in this moment as we wait for confirmation as to whether or not this was a nuclear test, all eyes will be on china. if the moment comes and it is indeed confirmed. what are your expectations of beijing? that s the issue right now. everyone has been rely on the chinese. hoping the chinese would be the solution to this problem. it doesn t appear they re going to be. we heard this in the past. we re going to rely on china to put more pressure on north korea. as we ve heard, it just does not appear that any pressure we put
on north korea, any pressure that china puts on north korea is going to have the desired effect. this is north korea s primary objective is to develop this deterrent capability and they re going to do it regardless of what it costs them, because they believe that once they do that, then they will have leverage against any kind of sanctions or pressure from the outside. so you know, they re going to be playing a long game. i don t think china will do much for us. they macon dem the test, but i don t think this is going to be a game changer. i want to be clear when it comes to the situation on china. is it your belief that it s more a case of china doesn t want to do more? at the end of the day, you know, it is well documented that north korea uses chinese banks, gets
oil from china. it s an economic relationship that s so interwoven, if china really did put the pressure on north korea, they could effect change. is that wrong headed thinking? no, no. i just don t think the chinese will do it. it s not in their interest. they re looking at north korea. they think we don t like what s gong on there. but if we take action, the level of that action will cause such angst and such problems in north korea that we may see a refugee crisis, internal strife. that s something the chinese don t want to dale with. they don t like north korea and what it s doing right now, but they like a stable north korea. this administration has been accused of not speaking with one voice or being on the same page when it comes to north korea.
the likes of rex tillerson have erred on statements of we re not seeking regime change. diplomacy is not off the table. do you think discordance has kind of given a message to north korea that they could proceed with this possible test and with continued testing of missiles? they hear one thing from the president and then they hear something different from the secretary of state and the secretary of defense. those three will tell you they re all on the same page, but when you re reading what they re saying and you re a north korean analyst with not all the understanding of the nuances of american politics, you may think that there s division there. and that might embolden you.
now is the time for continue with the program and to achieve that goal before they get their act together. is now the time for more hash rhetoric from president trump of the fire and fury strain that we heard a couple of weeks ago, if this was indeed a sixth test. is this the moment where that kind of response is necessary. are you for one saying if there s a sixth test that needs to be dialled back and behind the scenes backdoor interaction or, i won t say negotiation because there isn t one. but at least attempts to reign in north korean need to be stepped up. i favor the backdoor approach. i don t think this public tit-for-tat really gets us anywhere. it just ratchets up the rhetoric and it destabilizes what stability is in the region.
but it also destabilizes our allies around the world. i want to go back to adam for a second. he s still with us from d.c. i want to ask him, adam is a senior fellow with certain for american progress. let me give you a full introduction once again, adam. to that point, is now the time for more fierce rhetoric from this administration, do you want to see more of that? would that have any positive effect if indeed this was a sixth nuclear test? there s no evidence that american rhetoric affects north korea s propensity to test whatsoever. throughout the spring donald trump and his administration have tried to ramp up the rhetoric. you heard these fire and fury threats and a variety of others. hr mcmaster, for example, said that north korea cannot be
deterred. the implication is that he would want to strike before north korea really consolidated this icbm capability. those statements are not helpful. they have not kept north korea from testing and i see no rejoon for doing so in the future. all they do is manufacture a dries sis, to try to ramp up the pressure and north korea just feeling it. adam, talk to us about the propaganda value, if you will, of such a test. within north korea itself, the value to kim jong-un. as you heard from the reporting, north korean citizens are enthralled by these nuclear tests and missile tests. each one is treated like a national triumph of. so every test does strengthen the leaders hand with his
population. but also within the kabal of leaders, generals, military officers that surround him. they re important for him to maintain control. so following your line of thinking, kim jong-un needs these tests for his own internal survival and cohesion of this country. right. and that s one more reason we should be skeptical that any kind of rhetorical statement from the united states could cause him to give them up. why moving aircraft carriers into the region or b-1 bomber overflights could force north korea to fold and acquiesce to american pressure and volunteer to eliminate their nuclear arsenal. they re simply too important for the survival of the regime. they re too valuable internally.
and they re useful for sending a deterrence signal to the united states and its allies. these are not capabilities that north korea is going to want to give up easily. . the south korean government tends to be a little more rapid in responding so they convened a national security council meeting there and the military has said that they do think this one looks like a nuclear test. china will responds as it sees fit. it won t be rushed into thesortf things. we can expect them to go back to the u.n. security counckoucounc

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this is so far looking at the re-elect, they seem to have a rule about who has the legal fees paid for by campaign donors. you have to be named donald trump. did good thing for the trump family is they have two of those guys. two people. junior and senior. ivanka needs anything, uh-huh. kushner, do you get any money? exactly. poor mike pence, next week, is going to be raising money for the trump re-election fund. he s raised money for his own pac and donated that money to the trump re-election fund paying for junior s legal fees and mike pence pays for his own. the funniest part is he then has to sell the plasma to help jared and the other non donald trump family members pay their legal fees. running out of blood. yeah. you know that the president s going to volunteer him. tap mike. he s healthy. the paler he looks, the more he s pumping into the trump
family legal fees. thank you. have a great weekend. thank you. you too. all right. i m in for launs o donnell. to rally tonight in alabama, donald trump talked about how he can t seem to close the deal with republican senators on health care repeal and why trump voters won t be getting the wall they have been promised. john mccain has gone full maverick this afternoon. announcing moments ago he is a no on the graham/cassidy bill. saying the process is garbage. hopefully now stop stupid. knockout blow may not be far off. i obviously have very serious reservations about the bill. i do want to wait until i get the cbo analysis. basically her saying i m waiting until they say it s a terrible bill before i vote against it. i think it s dead as a cucumber. dead as what? door nail. they finally get a president who will sign the legislation and they don t have the guts to
vote for it. okay? i think it s officially called the screw you billy kimmel act of 2017 sigh that what they re calling it? better to put the decisions in the hands of the state. if florida makes the decisions, it is legal to bring an alligator to a strip club. okay? the republican quest to repeal and replace obamacare is on the brink of failure once again tonight, hours after senator john mccain announced his opiniposition to his best friend s bill. donald trump attacked john mccain over his opposition to the republican plan. they gave me a list of ten people that were absolute noes. these are ten republican senators. now, john mccain s john mccain s list john mccain was
straight night of scathing criticism of repeal effort of late night tv host jimmy kimmel. i see these comments from these angry people, they say, what qualifies you to talk about this stuff? you re a comedian. go back to being not funny. i feel like it s my duty to remind these people so concerned about my qualifications, the guy you voted for for president, his job qualification was this. meatloaf, you re fired. okay? he fired meatloaf on television. athen you put him in the white house. i ll say it again. it s more important than ever to call your senators and tell them not to gut american health care. excellent point. after mccain came out against the bill saying to continue to insist on regular order, kimmel tweeted this this afternoon. thank you, senator john mccain, for being a hero again and again and now again. an adviser on the affordable care act and ej deon and opinion
writer for the washington post and political analyst and co-author of one nation under trump. can t wait to see that. careen jean pierre. i ll go with you first since you re at the table. the irony of republicans saying jimmy kimmel should not speak about the bill because he is a tv personality and the tv penalty s in the white house. jimmy kimmel said why he is qualified. this is an adorable picture. and he tweeted, hey senator john mccain, thank you for fighting for kids like me. senator collins and senator lisa murkowski, that s from his son. isn t that more powerful? absolutely, joy. he is not a health care guy. he s a powerful spokesperson for what s going on right now with aca, repeal of aca. the thing to remember looking that the photo, his child has a
pre-existing condition. right. right? and in this bill by the time his kid would have turned 1 years old, he would have reached a lifetime cap. right, right. jimmy kimmel understands this. he while he will be fine because he s wealthy and can afford the surgeries, he understands there are people that cannot afford that and taking the mantle and fight for people. yeah. absolutely. nera, you know, one does wonder. jimmy does set up senator lisa murkowski and senator collins, you are up, they were so against the other bill based on the potential and one wonders about the hesitation this time around. let s listen to donald trump tonight trying to woo lisa murkowski. your premiums are surging. your deductibles are through the roof. we have one state, the state of alaska, it s up more than 200%.
and i m having a hard time getting a certain vote but she is a good person and i think she will come through. i mean, if you look, alaska is up over 200%. so that means obamacare s no good. so we shouldn t have a hard time getting her vote and i think she is going to come through. i hope so. before i give your answer, that was jimmy kimmel s wife who tweeted that. he retweeted it. to be accurate. the case that trump is trying to make to murkowski is obamacare is so horrible. but the deal they re supposedly offering to woo her is to let alaska keep obamacare. does that make any sense to you? no. it shows that obamacare, the affordable care act, is actually what real people want in alaska. the governor is happy with the affordable care act. senator murkowski has said she basically wants to keep the elements of it. you know, it s crazy about this
is that lisa murkowski i m sure knows health care better than donald trump, cassidy or graham. she s actually weighing this bill and if she does hold to the word she said before which is that she wants a good deal for alaska an she wants a good deal for the country, she will vote no. the crazy part of the president s rants tonight is that the person who is driving up costs in alaska is donald trump. it s his actions that are causing it. she wants a stable bill. she wants a bipartisan bill. the republicans scuttled a bipartisan bill to get that. in order to jam through this partisan effort. and so, lisa murkowski knows that. if she holds true to anything she said in june, july, then she will vote no and i hope we see she votes no in the days to come but about health care this whole bill is like the crazy ending of
medicaid. do you understand why she is his tatding to say no? i think she is hesitating to say no just to say i m a republican. i ll give my leadership a little time. i d be really surprised if susan collins votes for this bill. i think the signals she is sending is she ll vote no and as you say, two of the states that lose money under this formula are maine and alaska. which is why they re trying to cook up apparently this special deal for lisa murkowski and if you re going to let alaska keep obamacare because murkowski wants that, you could let every state keep obamacare just by scuttling the whole bill and that would be simpler. right! exactly. that s exactly it. and, you know, politico with a headline today saying trump pivotally the white house is harboring doubts with mixed signals. an official told politico, said this out loud, we really aren t sure what the impact will be of
passing the bill. if they don t know what the bill does and not about policy, right? it can t be about policy and meanwhile the new york times is reporting the same thing i was hearing from republicans and texting yesterday that it is donors, gop donors are furious according to the report of corey gardner, the head of the nrsc told gop senators we haven t kept the promise. the donors are mad. it is about policy. that s exactly right. the rhetoric of eight years of repealing obamacare and this bill is like the worst of all of the bills put into one and it s not repealing and replacing. it is, hey, you are on your own. right. but yet this is what s the problem here. you remember we had donald trump say the house bill was mean but they just don t care about the impact of tens of millions of people. they just don t. it is all about like you said their donors and keeping that awful rhetoric they ran with. and with you, ej, this is
donald trump tonight admitting that, saying that the reason to pass the bill because you said you would pass the bill. this is donald trump tonight. so they were getting the great votes like i think they voted what? 61 times. like 61 times! to repeal or replace. they finally get a president who will sign the legislation and they don t have the guts to vote for it. okay? they don t have the guts to vote for it. you know, ej, you have written about the republican party and evolution since really going back to the goldwater era. how do we get to a point of point of public policy is not policy at all? it is simply because did donors are demanding the tax cut, they want the money and you said you d do it? how did we get here? well, i think it s been and we talk about this in our book, it s been an evolution in the republican party that the right wing took over the party, the donors played a big role in that. they drove out all sorts of liberals. think back to john chaffey and
very serious about health care and introduced a fairly progressive bill. all those people are gone right now. but we re at an even worse stage here because it s as if nobody cares about the policy. they just want a win. it doesn t matter what the win looks like. doesn t matter what s in the bill. the republicans haven t been able to pass anything because they ve given the right wing of their party veto over every issue because they re unwilling to deal with the democrats. and so, that s why they re stuck with no legislation and we are stuck confronting this health care horror show if this bill ever passed. you know, neera, one person that cares about the policy is rand paul believing that the federal government to withdraw entirely from assisting with health care and being honest about the fact of no one getting help at all. people like mccain upset about process. murkowski and others are concerned about their states and
legitimate. you helped write this affordable care act. at the time, it is closer to the bob dole rebuttal to hillary care than it is are you as shocked as i am that the republican party is devolved to the point it s just about handing cash to donors and nothing about policy? i mean, when s insane about this proposal, this legislation, is it is the most radical rewriting of health care in decades. we might have one hearing on it on monday. and this bill is far to the right of what the house passed. it s far to the right of what the senate was considering just a month ago. month and a half ago. the idea here is will create chaos. medicaid directors across the country said it creates chaos throughout the system. don t take it from me. take it from insurers, hospitals, doctors. the idea that we re going to rip up people s health care and just send it to the states and the
states will just create health care plans they never created before, a level of disruption and no so few senators i d be surprised if 20 republican senators know what s in the bill as of now and supposed to vote on it next week. yeah. the idea this is what feeds cynicism in america. this is what makes people hate congress. yeah, yeah. people literally say out loud my donors are why i want to throw 30 million people s health care away and why people are angry. absolutely. you know who doesn t seem to understand, the jimmy kimmel? he mos more about this policy than the two people whose names are on the bill from what we tell right now. neera, thank you for joining us. coming up tonight, at his rally donald trump was asking questions about russians after the tweet tantrum about russia earlier today. up next, trump campaigns for incumbent senator strange by telling the voters, it might have been a mistake to endorse him at all.
next tuesday, trump, trump backed interim senator strange will face former alabama chief justice moore who s being backed by trump supporters like steve bannon, sarah palin. latest polling finds moore up by 8 points. according to donald trump, luther strange isn t part of the dreaded establishment like moore s supporters fear. in fact, trump says strange doesn t even know the senate majority leader. people are saying he s friendly. whether you like mitch mcconnell or not doesn t matter but friendly with mitch. he doesn t know him. he was there for a few months. and they ve put that mantle around his neck. i told mitch i d like to say this. i m telling you. he doesn t know mitch mcconnell at all. how would he see him in the senate? joining us now president of endeavor strategies and former spokesperson for breitbart. curt, so, luther strange doesn t
them over, pull them away from ray moore based on their loyalty to donald trump? no. i don t think it is because at this point if you read breitbart as an only source of information, you believe that donald trump is being tricked into supporting, you know, the candidate he s got behind, that he s been co-opted by the west wing globalists to tell him to get behind luther strange and almost unwillingly and i think that s part of the posture tonight. i never saw an endorsement where the person giving the endorsement advocates for the other guy. yeah. with friends like that, my god, you know, donald trump did the job for moore right there tonight and basically gave an endorsement that was really supporting of the other guy and even said he ll campaign with the opponent should he win. yeah. and it just showed how concerned donald trump is about the headline that is will happen which will be, trump loses in alabama. bannon beats trump. he is so preoccupied with how
he ll look and worried about looking weak and a quote/unquote loser trying to preempt that already saying he supports the guy. ej, remind me of the french election and supported lepen and she lost and he said i was always behind you to the guy that won. it is really won. don t seek an endorsement from donald trump. what s really interesting here is that this is the donald trump/steve bannon primary. the financial times put it. steve bannon would like to show trump that his people are forhim not because he s trump. he can t do anything. they won t follow him anywhere. they re for him because of far right nationalist christian views. and so, if moore wins, it will be seen certainly by breitbart and steve bannon, a victory for their strategy and if strange pulls this out actually then
trump will be able to say they re with me. i can pull anybody over the line. so this has some real implications for the total workings of donald trump head, but also, the internal workings of the trump operation. it will empower the bannon-ites. they really want to show something to trump. yeah. i mean, if you asked the question of nbc news of a poll to republicans, more of a trump supporter, 58% told our poll that they re a trump supporter more than a republican party supporter and interesting if he s not to pull luther strange across the line, whose party is it anyway? donald trump said something else that he said a lot tonight and listen to another thing and went after without saying his name colin capper anymore. take a look. wouldn t you love to see a nfl owner when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a [ bleep ] off the
field right now. he s fired. he s fired! when people like yourselves turn on television and see people taking the knee playing our great national anthem the only thing you could do better is if you see it, even if it s one player, leave the stadium. i guarantee things will stop. things will stop. just pick up and leave. jemele hill, the white house demanded she be fired by espn, not one nfl owner, not roger goodell, will say one word about what he said about kaep or other nfl players. not a one. why are you bringing up capper nick s name in alabama? never mind. i know the answer. your thoughts? good for her for still speaking up. yeah. amen to her. look. so much for the president for promoating the constitution in the first amendment. right? that s what he s supposed to be doing.
at the end of the day, not only is donald trump a petulent child, he is a racist, a racist in the 70s, 80s, and 90s and when he first stepped into the political arena. he was one when he kicked off his presidential campaign and now unfortunately he s using this bull horn to really push racism further and further and the president of the united states. he is the person who s sitting in the oval office signing, you know, executive orders behind the resolute desk. but at the same time, curt, he knows the audience. he is a guy who s selling $40 hats to a certain audience. tweeting out $29 for a gold card with donald trump s face on it. he knows who his audience is and that s what they want to hear. right? it s a same audience infuriated by his working with democrats to try to find a solution to daca. also the same audience he catered to pardoned someone who believed for law enforcement to racially profile people. you know, when this happens, we
have to look at the nfl, at the owners, the players to make a stand this weekend. you know, some of these owners gave $1 million to donald trump. dan snider here in washington, d.c. owning the washington redskins, jerry jones, bob kraft, new england, there s going to be a lot of eyeballs on the nfl this weekend to see how they react. will the league say, you know what? no. it s not right to terminate someone exercising a first amendment to speak. it is not right to try to take someone s employment away because they re exercising their belief and demonstrating they re discriminated against in as a class in this country and show that. how the players respond will also be interesting, people like russell wilson, leaders in this league, aaron rodgers, white, black or high schoospanic, you obligation to speak out against it. ej, doubling down on the marketing he does to the base he sells hats to, donald trump led a familiar chant at the rally
tonight. let s take a listen to that. you got to speak to jeff sessions about that. of course, ej, again, lock her up about hillary clinton. somebody who s not in public office. is not running against him anymore. but there s still a sail yen sy of that guttural chant against a woman that dared to run against him as president. no, that s right. the main reason he ended up passing clinton in those key states is because of he played on anti-clinton feelings. and he is always done his politics by attacking someone. the biggest target is hillary clinton. but there was also little marco. there was also lying ted. donald trump doesn t know how to do politics without an enemy.
when s inconvenient for him is you say is she is not running against him. she is not going to run against him again. he tried to take runs at former president obama. that didn t work well. but i think what donald trump, he is going to be at hillary clinton for the next three years because he doesn t know what to do without her. yeah. i mean, it is hard not to feel that, you know, when you combine that with go right back to those buttons, t-shirts, the vile things that people were wearing on the bodies and women about her. this residence of racial and misonly nisic imagery of the base says something not just about donald trump but a chunk of the american electorate that follows him and loves this stuff. passionate about it. it is a sweet spot if you will for him. it s been more than 300 days since the election. but he still uses hillary clinton as a foil and he will for a very, very long time. that s all that he knows. instead of focusing on north
korea and instead of focusing on the territories and the states impacted by hurricane, instead of being presidential, he goes back to that sweet spot and in front of the rally. and he doesn t know anything else. let s not forget, what did he find out about russia this week? mueller is and the top investigators are zeroing in on donald trump. yeah. this is him feeling backed into a corner and reacting. so there s a lot here i think that s playing into this behavior that we continue to see. to the point, that is time when puerto rico is suffering, mexico is suffering after natural disasters. here s donald trump with another classic from his campaign, something that we all know now is not going to happen and that, of course, is the wall that he claimed mexico was going to pay for. take a listen. by the way, the wall is happening, folks. you know, it has to be a see through wall. renovating the existing wall and we are going to have as much
wall as we need. you don t need it all the way. somebody said, well, what will you do? build the wall in the middle of the river? nobody can go in. are you going to build that wall on the mountain? you have a mountain which is a wall. but we are going to build the wall. it s quite a climb down, curt, but he still is saying it. why do donald trump s fans still believe that? you know, trump spent his entire campaign talking about how he s going to build a wall and that mexico was going to pay for it, not the american taxpayers, again, he walked away from that a little bit with the daca deal potentially with the democrats and the base went crazy and burning the hats and now back to try to throw them red meat. when s a see through wall? i don t know what he is talking about. yeah. glass. a window? i guess it s a window. build a wall? so he doesn t even know what he s talking about is the point. he is just verbal diarrhea.
i think, you know wow. gave away three quarters of the wall in that speech. he did. all of the places we are not building a wl and renovating an existing wall. it is a reno. it s a reno. hgtv. curt, karinne, ej, thank you. thank you. what donald trump said about russia and the election tonight. and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance, to ridiculous plot twists. (gasping) son? dad! we also know you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up. so we re partnering with cigna to remind you to go see a real doctor. go, know, and take control of your health. it could save your life. doctor poses! dad! cigna. together, all the way. dad! but on the inside, i feel chronic, widespread pain.like most people.
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they needed an excuse, so they said, russia. and then they said, wait a minute. wait a minute. russia and trump. no. russia did not help me. that i can tell you. okay? breaking news. nearly nine months after taking over the federal government, the trump administration finally confirmed to the associated press that today it told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their voting systems last year. the ap reports that for many states the calls friday from the department of homeland security were the first official confirmation of whether their states were on the list. the government did not say who was behind the hacking attempts but officials in three states said friday the attempts could be linked to russia. joining me now, natasha ber tlt and george butler. tasha, first your reaction to the idea that it took this long
for the trump administration to inform 21 states that the election systems might have been hacked. this is something that the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee mark warner has been on over months and encouraging the government to take a stronger stance on this, you know, this news that the russians did try to infiltrate these voter registration systems. it s an extremely big deal and even if they didn t necessarily change vote tallies and no evidence they did that, the fact they were able to infiltrate the systems and that they were scanning them in the first place should have been something that the government was, you know, informing these states of long before. the reporting that you were doing was specifically about probably the most vulnerable me believe at the moment and seems to change every week within the trump camp and that s paul manafort. talk a little bit about it. in your reporting, manafort allegedly in your view, reporting, disappeared with the money and not vice versa.
can you explain that? something interesting about an e-mail manafort sent to his protege last year regarding, you know, this private briefing for the millionaire is manafort spokesman came out saying manafort was just trying to get money owed from past clients in ukraine and interesting is that there s an allegation that manafort owes him money. deripaska said that manafort stole from him as part of an investment that went south and filed these claims in 2014 and they had a falling out and they haven t spoken since then. but the fact that now manafort reaching out and he was asking if deripaska wants the briefings, but does this have to do with debt cancelation. yeah. bob, if you re mueller and looking at paul manafort in debt to russian oligarchs and seems
to have contact with them, walk us through what you end up doing. are you more interested in prosecuting paul manafort or flipping paul manafort? you know, we think of these as pure prosecutions so you start on the bottom and you work your way to the top. but when we look at who the bottom is, it s high level guys like paul manafort who was the campaign chairman and michael flynn who was the national security adviser. and special counsel mueller is going in on those guys. he s treating them like drug kingpins or organized crime dudes with the no knock warrant, with the search of the wife at the crack of dawn. and so, again, if this is the bottom it sounds like somebody higher up is at the top. and so, that s president trump. and his even higher level officials. is it too much of a paul to think that investigators would
then start put together dots sort of separated as paul manafort s ties to russia and the fact that we now know that probably the russians, most likely the russians, breached 21 election systems? do they wind up getting put together inside mueller s investigation or more a matter for the national security investigation in your opinion? no. they re part of the investigation and this is why, joy, we have conclusive evidence that the russians tried to hijack our election. and president trump is not mad at the russians. he s mad at the media for reporting that news. and so, the question that special counsel mueller asked is president trump and the men work for him including paul manafort, do they seem like the type if the russians offer help at him beating hillary, do they seem like the type of people to turn it down? no. they re very open to all kinds of overchurs from the russians. why turn down help about the
campaign? we are also seeing, natasha, an attempt by the administration to undermine the mueller investigation and leaks of capitol hill and pointing to the trump and manafort side in service of two tactical goals, undermining the goals and credibility of mueller s work and shifting blame to president barack obama. this is essentially a credibility contest between manafort, the white house and mueller. and look. this is not the first thyme that we have seen the white house try to undermine mueller. if the vanity fair report is true. we don t know who leaked the details and not surprising if the president and the white house were leaking these details to try to shift the blame on to the obama administration for a wiretapping. that by the way would require a warrant. there s a very lengthy process that the obama administration, the justice department under the obama administration, would have had to go through to obtain this f isa warrant and note the if he
could time that an fisa warrant approved on paul manafort. you need probable cause i m assuming for that warrant. probable cause which means that there s a fair probability that evidence of a crime is in paul manafort s apartment for one search and the eavesdropping that he is going around having conversations about illegal matters. all right. the plot thickens. natasha, thank you so much for joining us. thank you. and coming up, the man who spent his congressional career decrying waste, fraud and abuse in government
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that is cut it from eight to four jets. now we need to cut it from four jets to zero jets. this is just another example of fiscal irresponsibility run amok in congress right now. then congressman tom price in 2009 speaking out against members of congress using private jets. joining us now, a former foreign policy adviser, and paul butler is also back with you. so max, let s look at a tweet from dan diamond. here is the 30-seat charter jet that tom price and kellyanne conway took for their $25,000 d.c. to philly roundtrip. i think a ticket could cost like $200. that s what they took. what happened to tom price? well, obviously will to that price was living the good life and flying a claert plane from d.c. to philadelphia.
he could have taken amtrak. this is incredible on so many levels. some some ways it is the oldest story in washington. the come to washington, drain the swamp and find that you lying living in the swamp. the water is nice. come on in. this is a classic example. and the san diego tribune wrote in june, it was titled the nation s top health official vows, attack wasteful spending. he said that he s committed to ringing out wasteful spending regardless of what happens by donald trump and the gop-led congress to reshame obamacare. perennials talk about wringing the waste out of medicaid and medicare. is it something about the intoxication of washington, being around wealthy donors and wealthy lobbyists that is so enticing, or is it straight up hypocrisy and they re lying when they say they want to get rid of
waste. those two things are not mutually exclusive. they get on washington and decide they like it there. even with the tea party, the most streel folks like tom price who have been waging the greatest war on what he per seize as waste, fraud and abuse. this is why people are very cynical about washington. people say donald trump is an outsider. anybody who has followed his career could say, no, he s the guy who has been deeply compromised by the political word for did he go aids. he s been cutting the disease, signing the checks. and the experienced people expected despite this long history, he would somehow clean out this swamp. you see it is not only tom price. it is mnuchin. they re all enjoying the benefits of government service
of the. at what point does this wander over from hypocritical to a violation that could get a person in trouble? so it s not a crime to do something like this. it is against the ruse of the employee handbook. it is against the regulations of the federal government. the standard is lucy goosy. you re not supposed to spend more than necessary. even by standard, what secretary price does, he exceeds. that so the office of inspector general is investigating. they have the power to sanction and to tell them to stop. but i m looking at this. not so much from former prosecutor but from a former government employee. if i do something like that, i would have gotten fired fast, quick is that in a hurry. it will be interesting to see if there s a double standard because this man happens to be the secretary. he still literally lost and wasted hundreds of thousands of government money. what i remember is, this trip he
faruq d.c. to philly on a private plane for $25,000. that s a three-hour train ride. an hour and a half train ride. a three-hour car ride. so give me a break. the other thing that happened, we were talking about donald trump s speech in alabama. he talked about north korea. we can t have madmen out there shooting rockets all over the place. by the way, rocketman should have been handled a long time ago. maybe something gets worked out and maybe it doesn t. personally i m not sure it will. i can tell you one thing, you are protected. you are protected. nobody will mess with our people. nobody is going to play games. nobody is going to put our people in that kind of danger.
i don t think i ll ever get used to the president of the united states using cutesy nicknames for dictators. it has never happened before. john f. kennedy didn t call him rocket man. it has no place between nuclear arms states. this is very dangerous. some of trump s policies are fairly sensible including the sanctions on north korea. that s something we ought to be doing. he is distracting attention. and donald trump is making they will look sympathetic or at least putting us on a par with north korea. that s not where the president of the united states ought to be. hear, hear. tonight s last word is next. hey grandpa. hey, kid. really good to see you. you too.
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protesting after the supreme court threw out a petition to delay tamar s vote with the country deeply divided there are fears of violence here in kenya with the latest also coming up a surprising twist in the case of a german human rights organizer on trial in turkey prosecutors are reportedly demanding he be released. and a german president can call their steinmeier says he wants better ties between berlin and moscow steinmeyer meets with president vladimir putin as part of his visit to russia will ask our correspondent in moscow what kind of reception he received. also the anti semitism scandal rocking italian soccer fans of rome s club a lot c.-o. left stickers in their stadium and frank wearing a rival teams jersey will examine their reactions.
city of it and you cough which happened recently but he also pointed out that dialogue is important and he pointed out these store called ties that russia and germany share and now it was similar with putin he also said there were difficulties but they didn t want to stand still on dialogue so both of them optimistic there for keeping ties and keeping the channels of communication open a lot of diplomacy they are taking place in moscow but the official reason for this visit to emily is steinmeyer participating in this handover of a cathedral to st peter and paul cathedral a back to the evangelical lutheran church of russia tell us more about that. yeah that s right the handover is actually part of festivities marking five hundred years since the protestant reformation and i went to the church to talk to the people there and see what this change of ownership means to them let s take a look. an air of celebration at
a normal sunday service the last one before this evangelical lutheran congregation in moscow officially gets its church back. lutherans are religious minority here in russia most in the community have german roots their ancestors came to russia centuries ago on the invitation of the czars who promised land and religious freedom but later the soviet government persecuted lutherans and seized church property including this cathedral the community led by archbishop paula has been using it again since the fall of the soviet union but so far it has remained russian government property. to be the. serenely used to shoo shoo news to tell you. that the more of the picture because that s the get the liberal. party that they need to work if that is it creates a situation. so. in the officially atheist soviet
union many churches were repurposed from nine hundred thirty seven this cathedral was used as a movie theater and a film studio by then all lutheran churches across the country had been closed and many of their pastors arrested and shot. here at video cemetery in moscow long known as the city s german cemetery the scars of that persecution are still tangible many gravestones here were neglected and destroyed after the second world war the lutheran community struggled with the additional stigma of its german origins often associated with the nazi enemy. which. most of the really new study released today is that each skipper nor. chester yeah they used to it nice nacelle nova it up as a strongly in the short circuit just outside cricketer. please put this into
context for us how important is the handover of this church. well the archbishop there was talking about the restoration of historical justice after all the evangelical lutheran were persecuted for a long time during the soviet union and after the second world war there their german past also came back to haunt them as it were and he also talked about this this church being handed over it means to them that they have their own their own home as it were that before it was as if they were inhabiting someone else s apartment this is a risk huge symbolic gesture and in fact it was the reason for steinmeyer visit and it s important to the congregation as we just saw but it s just the first step in restoring church property as the archbishop told me he hopes that it will set a precedent for other churches being handed back and other property being handed back and steinmeier also said that the church is
a nice gesture and also it shows the importance it s a gesture towards germany as well not just all right or very very important diplomatic just sure they re being made in moscow thank you so much emily a sure win for your reporting and we want to shift our focus now to some of the other stories making news around the world. in barcelona demonstrators have made new calls for independence for the region of catalonia this after catalan leader carlos turned down an invitation to address spain s senate this week will the senate is due to hold a vote on dismissing the government on friday. in austria coalition talks are underway between the center right people s party of incoming chancellor sebastian courts and the far right freedom party the a food led by high school came third in elections earlier this month curt s has promised zero tolerance on anti semitism and said future partners must be pro you re. a little in bangkok the five day funeral ceremony has started for king.
his son has been performing rights in the city s historic quarter while tens of thousands of mourners have filed into the surrounding areas to bid farewell to the monarch the king died last october at the age of eighty eight. all right we want to tell you now about some breaking news coming in from turkey the german the press agency d.p.a. is reporting that turkish prosecutors are calling for the release of german human rights activist peter starting there well our starters trial got underway today after he was arrested in istanbul back in july shatner is accused of having links to terrorism but berlin has made repeated calls for his release. and it appears during jones has been covering trial proceedings for us at the supreme court in istanbul all day dorian tell us so what you ve been hearing
well it has taken everyone by surprise the hearings are still going on even though it s late at night but during those hearings the prosecutor made an announcement that all the defendants with the exception of one turkish human rights defender should be released in two released in from pretrial detention now this is been a key demand of all human right defenders are. and seen as something that they ve been pushing very hard for but speaking to people international officials ahead of the trial there was this hope that some will be released but not the foreign nationals now the fact that the prosecutor does appear to be calling for the release all of those foreign nationals will be welcome but it s undoubtedly is a surprise and is seen as a result of probably heavy international lobbying but they have to say that the final decision will made with the judge who is expected to make that in the next couple of hours or so but they speak the hearings are still going on final decision will be with the judge but if the prosecutor has called for this is seen as
extremely significant i mean as you ve already outlined that this is a very surprising development were there any indications throughout the day that this was even a possibility. well not a toll him the the prosecutor was very tough in the cross examinations pushing very hard on this case even though it has drawn such condemnation paul the lack of evidence according to most observers so there was little hope that there would be a gesture made on speaking to observers have been following the case closely their expectation was of possibly some of the turkish human rights defenders could be released but little chance was given for the foreign nationals in particular peter storrie so this is seen as a major surprise but i do say caution the final decision will lay with the judge all right so the final decision is what the judge relations between her and berlin have plunged to the historic low how serious is the rift and especially if you
consider that in addition to start married there are ten other germans sitting in jail accused of having ties to mr gould and considering this development as breaking development do you think that this is one way of turkey to reestablish its diplomatic relations with for instance germany. well on the outlay i think if peter s story is released and crucially if he s allowed to leave the country which has happened with other foreign nationals that have been released from pretrial to say internet even though the trial is still continuing that will be seen as a very significant gesture i think the fact that there was there is is fear that the bilateral tensions were spiralling out of control and there is still the potential for that we ve rumors of berlin is going to push harder for more financial sanctions against iran that would undoubtedly have led to more retaliate in those if it is tit for tat would. these relations into the abyss now that this if peter storrie name is released him from from his prerogative and possibly
allowed to return back home i think that that would be seen as an opportunity for a reset a beginning of a new dialogue but there are as you said there are still ten other german nationals languishing in jail and they still remains a major stumbling block to improving relations but if story that is released that will be seen as a major step forward and least putting on hold this spiral into the abyss of tensions between the countries ok well let s talk a little bit about people in turkey itself how worried are turks about the direction of politics under mr. well i mean it is split more or less down the middle the president no one is still very popular is still the most popular politician in the country he deals secure around forty fifty percent of the support but equally the other side of the countries incredibly opposed to him and this polarized nation and and came to it with turkey s key
allies trading allies also relations the united states are very bad at the moment i think is causing alarm and feeding into this polarization but it has to be said i think that the eries growing evidence that even among president of one s own supporters there are factors that are starting to get appearing to be can turn a concern and possibly a softening in support among those for one and that is crucial because the president when it s facing reelection in presidential elections in the next two years and he needs every supporter you can get to secure what is it going to be a very close vote so possibly this gesture for peter storrie could be seen as a gesture to those concerned supporters within his own ranks dorian jones reporting on breaking news from turkey prosecutors calling for the release of german human rights activists peter start thank you. all right and now we ve got some business news now with the helena and lift tons that is flying high what can i say later profits at the gemini carrier have really were acquitted it recently enough towns
are reporting a thirty two percent rise in underlying fed quarter earnings that s before interest and tax now offer years of cost cutting the group is back on the offensive this also keeping its feet on the ground sticking to its on your forecast. business is going well for germany s largest airline look duns up in the summer the car being creased ticket prices and its cargo unit is booming. the sounds i was able to boost revenue thanks in part to its increased market share following the acquisition of brussels airlines last year the carrier is also flying more people. in two thousand and sixteen tons of flu some one hundred ten million passengers nearly two percent more than in twenty fifteen the growth didn t come from its flagship carrier but from its german subsidiary budget airline euro wins still for the first time with downs as passenger numbers were overtaken by dublin based no
cost carrier up the line air. the german airline now plans to retake the top position from ryan air in europe with its acquisition of a large chunk of rival air berlin and it s not stopping there with tons out also wants to apply a parts of italy s largest carrier tahlia but antitrust authorities could spoil the party they will be reviewing whether look tons is gaining a monopoly position on too many routes. well as you heard there is not the same success story for an end in the hopes of thousands of air berlin workers have been dashed many were hoping to keep their job spot also the carry being sold off by the government three german states and of tons have failed to agree on setting up a transfer company to keep them employed so that means that now only twelve hundred ground crew in berlin will be able to stay on authorities in the german capital say they will set aside up to ten million euros to help out local staff. and germany s
largest lender bank has agreed to pay out a combined total of two hundred twenty million dollars to forty five states across the united states surveys and edged manipulation of interbank lending rights now the state s investigation allegedly uncovered that dog. the bank along with some other big banks including barclays had inflated the libel rate now the libel rate is the rate used to work out how much banks should charge each other for boring money has already agreed to fines of two and a half billion dollars with federal authorities in the u.s. and authorities in the u.k. the bank says the payouts agree to today close the case. the e.u. has put a decision on the life of states on the back burner once again the member states can t agree on whether to renew the european license for the widely used herbicide over a million europeans have signed a petition against it worried that the chemical can cause cancer because studies
prove otherwise. it s the most commonly used herbicide in the world in europe farmer sprague life is saved on around half of all fields used to raise commercial crops but the weed killer is highly controversial due to concerns that could have an impact on human and environmental health today the e.u. once again postponed a decision on whether or not to ban it activists in brussels hit the streets on wednesday to push for a one year they say its institutions have colluded with the industry at the expense of the public they want the commission to come out with a non-renewal of full band any number of years whether it s one year five years ten years as long as it s revenue it s not a ban and european citizens have been clear they want to ban studies don t agree on whether glyphosate is a long term cancer risk or not the world health organization has said it could pose a danger the e.u. s food safety authority has proclaimed the chemical harmless but
has also been accused of basing that opinion on studies sponsored by manufacturers like monsanto greens in the european parliament say that s not acceptable. we need to look at independent studies not just ones carried out by the industry we have to finally end this thing with life i say there are standard farming methods that work fine without the heavy use of chemicals. by standard farming methods mountain hoisting means organic agriculture but many farmers say those methods are too expensive and think it s enough to only ban use of the herbicide directly before the harvest the battle will now continue as the e.u. committee responsible for making a decision was once again split at the conclusion of the meeting no vote was taken the commission took note of the position of different delegations often in the states a form in which you could now reflect and really knows the date of the next meeting shorty. the commission is in favor of extending use for another five to seven years
but it will have to reach an agreement soon life a state s controversial license in the e.u. expires by the end of december. meanwhile european or makers have called on brussels to investigate malta s anti money laundering system is in response to last week s murder of a multis journalist who reported widely on financial and political corruption and multis government is under scrutiny in particular for its handling of illegal business activities the adelie tiny island group lies in the mediterranean the tax system is also delivered to some and attracts many international corporations here officially at least they pay thirty five percent corporate tax but through a series of complex refunds most companies only pay around five percent felt as economy grew six point seven percent last year more than three times faster than the e.u. average agriculture accounted for around one percent of the island s gross domestic
product manufacturing around fourteen percent the largest sector by far was the service sector no surprise given this includes income from two risen in financial services a massive twelve percent of g.d.p. a multicultural online gambling these two branches of the economy are reportedly controlled by the mafia who conduct their operations out of nearby sicily experts say maltese are paid financial laws create an ideal climate for below board business something italy s anti mafia commission knows they re visiting malta this week. but it is necessary to close those legal loopholes that the mafia uses whether they use violence a when they use complicity or corruption mafia gangs always have a predatory attitude towards the areas they target. but in the.
crime tax avoidance and corruption malta s government has done little to change the situation and even the e.u. has turned a blind eye in the past something at least some officials here hope to change. all right inspired courageous or just downright crazy leyla has quite a tale of adventure and i bet when you were a young girl you dreamt of being able to fly well one guy actually has tried to do that in south africa where this man has sailed overhead for two hours camping chair held up by a bunch of bull and so he left off near the city of johannesburg the british adventurer spent days in flaming going around the head of the flight which he described as magical well after reaching a height of two and a half thousand meters he popped some of the balloons to float back down to earth. don t try this at home how come you re watching the news here is we re still ahead
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language your blood will flow for could. lead to. the soviet union disparate parts. of. the members of the russian federation would have to find their own way politically and economically would love something it was an incredibly difficult task let me. give you this democracy was a law of the sea for the lections where fraud sense of privatization was robbery. the soviet union territory where does russia stand today and moscow s empire were syrians starting november fifth. good to see you again you re watching it over your news coming to you live from berlin on the rock this is these are i mean stories right now. kenyan opposition
leader raila odinga calls on his supporters to boycott the worst days presidential election rerun the move comes after the supreme court dropped a petition to delay the polls due to a lack of judges the decision triggered protests by opposition supporters. or force coming in from turkey say prosecutors are demanding that german human rights activist peter start there be set free as trial on terrorism related charges got underway today the case has become a flashpoint in an already tense relations between germany and turkey. are going to head now to saudi arabia where that country s young crown prince has outlined ambitious plans to transform the conservative kingdom mohamad been some model promised what he called a quote moderate and opened saudi arabia speaking to investors at the yard the thirty two year old prince also pledged to end extremism and other. extremist ideas
. all right well lead dalia romney is a german saudi businesswoman she s also a former journalist who worked at arab news and she joins us now from dubai a very good evening dahlia the crown prince seems very determined to shake things up vows to return to a more moderate islam in the kingdom now as you know attempts in the past got a lot of pushback so how does he plan on doing this and why now. evening is doing it s looking in the timing is right. and so surely other ones. this of course also comes after the country made world headlines recently with its decision to lift the ban on women driving in the kingdom do you see this as being part of a concerted effort to transform a saudi society. we need it is the local work that needs
to be done. does not mean that women have their rights they still need their guardians mission. to work and for a. so taking that into consideration what you ve just been saying i mean how much should we attribute to where the crown prince is saying in terms of wanting to push through these reforms well you can take his words well yes sure he s very determined and in the last three months there has been in use. and social scene in saudi arabia. you mean the various years all right now crown prince oman of course also announced that he wants to reduce the kingdom s reliance on oil that would be a major feat for any resource depend on the economy did he outlined how he plans to do this. it is difficult to see how this can be done in the foreseeable future
trying to create jobs outside or by investing in truth in education and in large scale in many mineral extract since. this course is all on folding against a backdrop of continuing tensions with qatar do these play a role at all in these developments. up there has nothing to do with business it s hugely up would lead to. that the realization is that without transformation the future for saudi arabia is going to be challenging it is very challenging because you have romney were seventy percent of the jobs. sector direct in directly so we need to move there has to be a change done it s a tough one it s very it s very demanding and i think the confidence is really
doing that the best would be that it can be done today. is a german study businesswoman a former journalist who worked at arab news thank you for joining us from dubai. all right we have to do us now are documents related to the assassination of john f. kennedy over five decades ago or so to be released tomorrow by the u.s. national air archives well the trove is expected to include some three thousand classified documents which have never been released before and about thirty eight thousand that have been previously released with redactions well we re seeing pictures from that day on november twenty second one nine hundred sixty three when a lone gunman lee harvey oswald shot kennedy dead in dallas texas. that was a very very fateful day that that changed history in the u.s.
and of course the anticipation of what could be revealed in those files has arm chair detectives buzzing and let s get more now from the show from our social media disco good to see you. after all these years what are people hoping to find in these documents. well the assassination of john f. kennedy gave rise to decades of conspiracy theories one big question that people are asking up until today is whether lee harvey oswald acted alone or whether there were other gunmen so cia reports show that a few weeks before the assassination harvey oswald took a trip to mexico city and there he met with the diplomats and spies from cuba and the savia to union and us all conspiracy of fear is they say ok this is prove that there of the cia is trying to cover things up that theory has been dismissed by
experts and many of them actually say ok we re hoping that those documents tomorrow will put an end to this theory that there was more than one gunman and one person hoping to that s true as to come out is actually a former cia a story not cia agent but secret service agent actually j.f.k. s body guard yet clint hill he is the man who jumped into the car right after those shots fail and this is what he is saying on twitter i know what i saw heard and felt that in addition to all the evidence i ve seen points to one shooter lee harvey oswald three shots all of from the same position and now although we have accounts of people who are really there at the event there are still sixty one percent of americans who believe that there was more than one gunman so will this finally put
an end to all the speculation. probably in in there are books there are movies there are documentaries that are trying to counter the official narrative of what happened to j.f.k. and right now social media is actually giving a very big platform for a such conspiracy theories in fact we looked through facebook and we found a number of facebook groups where people are discussing these theories everybody trying to come up with their own sort of proof here for example is one group it is called the j.f.k. assassination research bureau and on the other hand we had people who are ok waiting for those documents to be released tomorrow and they re kind of having fun with this whole speculation they say ok let s talk about the unlikely things that will be in the j.f.k. if they say ok things that we won t find there for example are trumps a tax returns. and other thing is that every song that ever went
missing and i absolutely love this one here i m sure that you will remember that viral discussion about the color of this particular dress people online asking ok is it blue and black is it s gold and why it s will we find answers to that in the j.f.k. files that nobody knows but tomorrow we will have all the answers later right liz show thank you. i m back here in berlin political parties trying to form a governing coalition after last month s election appear to be making progress talks between shots on the american conservatives the free democrats and greens had been expected to last several weeks if not months while the parties say they ve already reached agreement on the outlines of finance policy including maintaining a balanced budget but there are some forney issues still ahead. so much concrete
agreement probably came as a surprise there s already an initial paper outlining common goals and everyone has been tweeting about it the main point no new debt. but for the green party that represents simply a notice of intention to avoid and we want a balanced budget but we also want to do something for people with low incomes for families we want to do something about the environmentally destructive subsidy it s about constructing rental housing. all parties involved want to invest and to relieve financial burdens especially on families with children and lower to middle income groups but is all that possible without new debt. the greens don t believe it can work and we know that it can and that is the whole point of the negotiations to determine how to make something sensible out of the games agree together and if you can that will require further discussion but the bavarian allies of merkel s
conservative c.d.u. party worry whether their expensive campaign promises can be implemented because as i hope this won t be a single capital solution that is the least amount of relief but then we should focus on making sure that relief is palpably effective reservations about and despite the common ground found so far the next round will focus on refugees and migration reaching agreement there is expected to pose fresh difficulties. tahlia police have identified sixteen people who placed anti semitic stickers iran s olympic stadium on sunday a fans of capital couple had sought to taunt supporters of their local rivals by making stickers of anne frank in a room or shirt obviously that shamed italian soccer and has stirred strong reactions across europe. troubling scenes at rome s a lympics stadium during a game against colliery last sunday some fans put stickers in the arena that showed
and frank the german born teenage diarists murdered in the holocaust wearing the jersey of their local rivals roma. reaction to the incident has been fierce on tuesday last year as president claudio the tito paid a visit to rome s main synagogue to lay a wreath in remembrance of holocaust victims said the club would take two hundred young fans to the auschwitz concentration camp every year as part of an education campaign. nor your we re here today to make clear once again our position of distancing ourselves from any form of siena phobia racism and anti semitism. more to do with the italian president and prime minister condemn the actions of a lot c.s. supporters the italian football federation said a minute of silence will be observed before all games across the country this week and a passage from frank s diary will be read out over
a stadium loudspeakers lot c.-o. have had a history of anti semitic behavior some twenty years ago lots of fans at a city darby held a banner reading auschwitz is your homeland the ovens are your homes. i want to get more on that story with terry daly he s a sports journalist based in rome and joins us right now what is been the reaction from italian media and fans. well italian media has been predictably outraised of what s happened it s not the first time in the last year fans of engage in this kind of activism is not the first time the fans in rome in general because these kind of attitudes in rome have a similarly nasty foreigner a group element in outliers. i would say that it was kind of strange to see that the main two main sports newspapers are going to sell us all and the girl didn t run with this story is a major front page story they ran it as
a sole story on the front page and then left it pastes world and thirteen in the newspapers while they still carried on with a regular news story so you know people have been outraged but at the same time it s almost like we ve kind of used his pavia now i mean that so and others of course in his lead carried on with this kind of nonsense for such a long time now that people must become so used to that all right let s talk a little bit about that then because that s actually quite worrying at would you say that this type of act anticipated behavior in general when it comes to light so is that typical of their fans it s typical of sort of fairly large subsection of their hardcore support yes i mean there s been a long strains the rage of far right now fascism within an old which is where the last or to congregate in the soul of the or for the best part for decades i mean the current group that runs there really runs their fan base in
every sense is the reader to believe their main guys are gods or beasts of the she said early and he s a noted fascist he s also. let s say on television you know you know sort of so we like the way that he s had problems of the law in part with other issues not related to focal and he s also been named alongside other far out terrorists who ve taken part in political violence in the seventy s and eighty s so there s a clear thread over that so however in recent years say this kind of obvious manifestation of near fascism is become less common it should also be remembered that the reason that s offense for the stick is out in the first place is because they ve been moved to go berserk which is the road and and they were moved there because they racially abused two sessile of clothes a few weeks ago and they had had their fill of the closed so you know lots of problems there that you outline. how has the club reacted to this scandal are they trying to tackle this problem. it s
a kind of hard problem to tackle in the sense that if you try to tackle it seriously you only against some quite nasty people i mean toilet seats as the president of the club who you saw earlier went to the synagogue and. he has been threatened seriously by these people number of occasions. toothaches he took when he took over the club around thirteen years ago. so it s very hard because they re living apart from sort of just outside the fact that they themselves don t agree with this star and that they don t believe that the wider let s say fan base is of this particular political opinion however i have not enough is being done at the end of the day because this problem persisted and it s problems on terry daly sports journalist based in rome italy thank you for having us. and we re going to take
a look at the financial fallout from hurricane maria now with helena thank you lated now it s been over a month since hurricane maria slammed into the caribbean many residents in puerto rico a still without electricity the u.s. territory was certainly hit hard recovery will take time not least because maria has also affected one of the island s biggest industries tourism. in the small city of jaco insult western puerto rico there s still a lot of cleanup work left to do hurricane maria struck some communities here with devastating force. u.s. military and emergency aid teams are only slowly beginning to gain an overview of the most pressing problems things look a lot more orderly in the capital san juan but residents here face another problem many rely completely on tourism to earn a living around five million visitors on average come to the island annually and they spend four billion dollars here but although high season is just around the corner the tourists aren t coming this year where the impact of the we are very
very uphill to see them but it turns. also out. for where the workers the ones that are open that is about one in three hotels on the island is still boarded up and a lot of restaurants can t open because they still have no regular power many beaches also remain closed after sewage systems overflowed into the sea during the hurricane still where to reconsider thrown in the towel some even see this as a fresh start. an opportunity to improve an opportunity to assess where we re at as a as an industry and really revamp our product address to the bottom line the brave words what puerto rico was struggling with serious budgetary problems even before maria hit and those missing tourists will make it that much harder to bounce back. right a vision or and there are saudi arabia s planning on building
a mega city in the desert oil pumped through the heart of this metropolis only alternative energy robots trains and driverless cars will dominate and the price tag off a train in u.s. dollars. i. blew berryhill was one of anton fats domino his biggest hit. at five foot five and weighing more than ninety kilos domino was not a natural part. but his wide smile and enabled and meaner one audience is over and then of course there was his music heavily influenced by his new orleans roots. my
contemporaries such as little richard domino was a black artist whose unique sound appeal to white fans in helped shape early rock n roll. fats domino stayed in the new orleans area after his home was heavily damaged by flooding from hurricane katrina in two thousand and five in his later years he rarely appeared in public aside from occasional performances in his hometown he remained loyal to new orleans until the end. and that is the want to know only rock n roll pioneer fats domino who has sadly died at the age of eighty nine the rhythm and blues pianist from new orleans who sold over one million records and helped change the face of popular music and our very own robin mel is here a true or rock n roll legend absolutely definitely one of the inventors if not the inventor of rock n roll i should mention. deadly and maybe chuck berry as well
but for me it was fast he always maintained that he played rhythm and blues but it was those triplets that you just had their little bit of and a strong the drum beat that actually was the beginning. rock n roll and he sold more records in the nine hundred fifty s. than anybody else in the world except elvis and then he actually his first single the fat man was the first song ever to sell a million records then in nineteen fifty five he recorded blueberry hill which wasn t his own song by the way it was an old song from the nine hundred thirty s. and he did these sort of trademark triplets on the drum was strong and the bass as well and that sold five million copies worldwide he s just such a towering figure here fortunately didn t perform that much in recent years but he is but his influence is undeniable oh yeah i mean not just to musicians i should explain he was the first one of the first black musicians to get white audience and
we re talking about a time in the one nine hundred fifty s. when the deep south was very segregated he comes from new orleans of course and he and other black artists really had a lot to do with you know to get rid of segregation via music when you talk about music the influence just where to start but i ll just give one example really the beatles they wrote lady madonna lennon mccartney it was said that they wrote it they wrote it in the start of someone and it was written for him but then they recorded it but john lennon said and i quote that couldn t have been a beatles with fats domino and if you just think of that couldn t have been so much rock n roll if he wanted to others maybe started it off as it changed it from rhythm and blues elvis cited him as an influence as well and he s really so influential to the sixty s when ronald exploded if you like but to this day in fact
just before i came on to philly around found on you tube a video of ladysmith putin singing blueberry hill we won t play it right now but you see he s even influence politics he said. you is universal and the fantastic thing is you have met the man the legend in person share with us how you re doing i did i interviewed him maybe thirty years ago now it was here in berlin and the funny thing was it was after a concert and i always got interviews before a concert i never got interviews after a concert because the people who play the concert whoever they were i want to relax have a drink and party well i had a an interview after the concert here in berlin and the man i mean such a humble wonderful gentle man in all ways really just a wonderful chap and i was quite a young reporter and he sat me down and chatted to me and he has a strong new orleans accent which i found difficult to understand really but
it was ok it was sort of ok and then he was talking about used to take ice to the rich people s houses in new orleans and i come and then i pressed the button i was a radio report from my tape machine and as i did to start the interview he went there and took his false teeth i think if the interviews that he did it was. i shouldn t really love i mean i didn t really understand much more of what he said and i took my treasured interviewed by city office and played it for my my colleagues who also didn t understand it so we really couldn t use much of it but it so sad to hear really that such a great man who has passed away reached the grand old age of eighty nine new orleans is in mourning the whole world of rock n roll is in mourning but a great legend we can definitely say that word tonight the legend of rock n roll it s a word that s often i mean used to in many contexts but in this context it s really
a pleasurable he s such a towering figure and we re going to leave our viewers with some fats domino thank you so much robin and thank you for spending this part of your day with us we ll be back at the top of the hour. freons. told me you. won t have any. plans you. say you. won t live in a. land. mine
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he s made comments about the assassination of journalists and he s joked, his administration says it was a joke about murdering somebody whether he he was younger. this is somebody who is not a traditional leader ally like you might see in other parts of the region. yet, the president and white house have talked about this friendly relationship between the two. i think you saw that here in manila. the two toasting. at one point duterte singing a love song in honor of the president, getting up on stage and delivering this duet with lyrics like you are the light of my life, the half of my heart. so clearly the two of them working on this relationship. the president seeming to hope the good chemistry leads to good policy. again, questions on why no mention of human rights abuses here. that is similar to what we saw from president trump in china, for example, and on past overseas trips. i m thinking of the one, for example, over to saudi earlier in the year. back in may. the white house administration officials will say to me privately listen, we think it s
and fat it is incendiary language that frankly the president avoided when he was in seoul. remember that speech at the national assembly earlier on on this trip? he won praise for the tone of that delivery, sort of that sober assessment of the threat from north koreaing that very direct message to both kim jong-un and the north korean people laying out the contrast what is and what could be if the world were to confront the threat of north korea and take more action against pyongyang. you had that in the beginning half of the trip. the latter half of the trip, you saw the tweets that took some of the spin off of that speech or took some of the teeth out of that speech perhaps in the eyes of some critics. thank you so much. hallie jackson in manila today. joining me now, new york times washington investigations editor mark mazzeti, michael carpenter, and former foreign policy advisor to vice president joe biden and nbc senior national
security analyst juan sderotty. we have a powerhouse panel here. first to you, mark. so much going on including i should point out this big exclusive story headlining the new york times today on a huge breach at the nsa. talk first about vladimir putin and the take away of the president s criticism calling the former intelligence chiefs political hacks. right. and this, it s something that doesn t go away. it s been going on for almost a year now, the sort of battle between the president and the intelligence world over the assessment that russia had hacked the election. it had gone away for a while. but it came back when the president said that he essentially believed president putin in that in saying that the russians didn t hack the election. directly at odds with the widespread assumption that the conclusion of the intelligence community and he attacked directly the former spy chiefs.
so it s not something that wins him any favors with the intelligence community and it s certainly something that is going to continue to linger because you know, the whole issue of russia and the election isn t going away. and taking a look, juan sderotty and michael carpenter, you both worked in intelligence for different administrations, different presidents. but this is, if we cos scroll up to exactly what the president said on air force one, we have audio. we re not permitted to use the audio. there s no cameras. but what he said was, i mean, give me a break. they are political hacks. you have brannan, you have clapper, have you comey. comey s proven now to be a liar and he s proven to be a leaker so you look at that and you have president putin very strongly vehemently says he had nothing to do with that, meaning is the election. now the president after a lot of pushback, juan, did try to fix
resurrected that takes us away from the substance of what should be the focus of the trip and the future threats from russia. and michael carpenter, this is what the president had to say when he was trying to sort of fix that record. he got to hanoi and he said that he basically was saying that putin believed it. not that he necessarily agreed as juan was just saying. he did at least endorse what pompeo said. then on the today show, joe biden was asked about this, about how to handle what the president said on foreign soil. let s play that. i m reluctant to criticize the president when he s abroad. i don t believe putin. i don t believe putin at all. they did meddle. he was responsible for it. do you think the president is being naive or worse with regard to putin? i don t believe putin. he s being very careful about
it. i would say, i would like to disabuse people of the notion that the president is either gullible or naive. this is a conscious strategy. is he bending over backwards to try and placate putin and engender some form of too ration. we saw with a statement released on syria by trump and putin, this is laying the groundwork for some sort of ill conceived common collaboration in the syrian theater which would be a disaster. you have to remember russia partnered with hezbollah and the iranian cuds force. this is a very conscious messaging strategy by the president to try to get the united states slowly to engage in some form of collaboration or closer relations with putin. he s doing it for reasons that only he knows. but this is not gullibility or naivete. just to play devils advocate to all of you, we had the reset button with hillary clinton. we had john kerry trying are lavrov to get negotiations going for the future of syria acknowledging that assad is going to play some role if not
at least in the short term and that russia has to sign off on any exit of assad. so mark, how long is this different? well, i mean, certainly people think you should try to have constructive relationships with the russians. the big significant difference in this case is that there was this is attack on the election. there was the hacking and this as i said widespread belief in the intelligence community that the russians tried to disrupt a presidential campaign and are probably going to do it again. that s the backdrop of this and why it s different i think because the intelligence community is assessing that the russians basically did this offensive cyberattack. and the president doesn t want to the acknowledge it or doesn t seem to want to acknowledge it. and than and, of course, as we know the other added issue is there s this is ongoing federal investigation by the special prosecutor into whether any of mr. trump s associates had any
knowledge or any coordination with the russians. and what s lost in all of this juan, what he should be talking to the russians about on top of everything else is north korea. he s in asia. russia has not closed the backdoor. they aren t cracking down. we ve got satellite pictures from vladivostok of russian ships in continuing supplies and the military buildup if not the cyber, as well to north korea. right. there has to be colder more sober confrontation of russian policy, not just with the north korea but even with iran which is a major focus for the administration. in the context of syria and the role that they re playing with iran and trying to retake territory. the human rights violations they ve engaged in there, then the cyber dimension which is very important not just again for what s happened in the past but what for russia setting up for in the future. part of this challenge is i
think the president wants to create these personal relationships, this chemistry. you saw this with president xi. that has led him not to want to confront, not publicly and openly has led to some mistakes. and mark mazzeti, if you can quickly explain what has happened to the nsa as far as this big hack is concerned. my colleagues had a pretty extraordinary story today about the nsa and the work of the shadow brokers which is this group that hacked the nsa, stole a lot of their offensive cyber tools. they report about the really the mole hunt inside the nsa to sort of determine who did it and just how much damage was done to this agency which is the largest and most secret of the intelligence agencies. and the sense that they were violated so much by this hack that was hen had real damage. other governments were hacked. other companies, foreign companies were hacked with the very tools that the nsa had
created. wow. mark mazzeti, all of that on the new york times website. thank you so much. mark, michael carpenter and juan, thanks to all of you. breaking news out of alabama. mitch mcconnell calling for roy moore to quit the alabama senate race amidst allegations of sexual misconduct with a minor. latest from the alabama right here on andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. accused of obstructing justice to theat the fbinuclear war,
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i think he should step aside. are you encouraging a write-in campaign with senator strange? that s an option we re looking at whether or not there is someone who could mount a write-in campaign successfully. would it be senator strange, do you think? we ll see. we re just about time. is the burden on moore to prove these false versus someone to prove these are true in this situation or do you believe these allegations to be true? i believe the women, yes. i believe the women, yes. that s the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell in kentucky now calling for alabama republican senate candidate roy moore to step aside saying he believes the women and that they are considering a write-in campaign. among the options which would be presumably luther strange, the sitting is appointed senator. joining me now nbc s vaughn hillyard has been covering all there from the beginning. me alcindor and jonathan
capehart, msnbc capehart. vaughn, you ve been following this. you were in gadsden his hometown where there was support for roy moore even those saying if he did it whether he did it nor ot, he s better than a democrat. what are you finding now that you ve gone onto birmingham? is there more diversity of opinion? yeah, on the ground, andrea among voters, the ones he has to target in suburbs here. al well educated millennials, women. some republicans is i ve talked to specifically have suggested that they could potentially go as far as voting for a democrat, voting for doug jones. but what s interesting is we heard about the potential of a write-in candidate. the fact is we re hearing is something opposite on the ground here among the alabama gop officials. there s seven republican congressman in the state. none rescinded endorsement of roy moore. the governor is not going to
change the date of the election. perry hooper was the trump chairman for the campaign last year, originally a strange backer, still backing roy moore now. rnc committee flan alabama said unless there also inrefutable evidence against roy moore, the party is not going to remove him from being the republican candidate and if there is somebody like a luther strange who tries to run and potentially costs the republicans a ticket they should pack up their bags and move north of the mason dixon line. and jonathan capehart, what we heard last night from the roy moore and this was an event closed to the press. there is some video and audio of it where he threatened to sue the washington post. let s play that. just three days ago, the washington post published another attack on my character and reputationing in an attempt, a desperate attempt to stop my political campaign. these attacks that i was involved with a minor child are
completely false and untrue and for which they will be sued. well, he s certainly a public figure and certainly the washington post reporting shows a lot of careful, careful work with four women on the record. now other women are coming forward, as well. temporaryiously saying they were aware of such reports about moore at the time. i know that you re on the editorial page which is very separate from the news gathering page but let s talk about the bigger issue of a lawsuit now threatened against the washington post for their reporting. look, i think my colleagues here on the news side at the washington post and our executive editor marty baron are not afraid of any lawsuit coming from roy moore. as you said, in your question, the key thing is, the four women in the story named in the story went on the record with what
happened to them and their interactions with roy moore. so if the former judge wants to take the washington post to court and deal with all of the legal processes that are involved in that, then i m sure our attorneys here wore welcome the chance. i think the public would welcome the chance to hear what he has to say when it comes time for when it comes time for discovery and deposition. anya meesh, there s new facebook posts today i wanted to share those with viewers, as well. one is fromary jo west. she s a friend of the moore accuser, a friend of the family and her quote is that leigh s mother told me and others the roy moore story in the mid-1990s because her daughtering are finally unburdened herself after years of silence. that burden lay dark and deep on a mother s shoulders and in her heart. i listened to the same details as those that are printed now.
while some of the story has faded with time, several facts are seared into apply brain. one the attacker was attorney roy moore and the victim was then teenager leigh corfman. there s another tweet from the teresa jones. she was a deputy d.a. in gadsden did, the town where moore was then the prosecutor and she said as a deputy d.a. in gadsden when roy moore was there, it was common knowledge about his propensity for teenage girls. i m appalled these women are being secured for the truth. raising the question as to whether or not this is a classic blame the victim. i think that both the washington post in their reporting on roy moore and i would say the new york times on our reporting on harvey weinstein, reporters take very carefully these accusations. as a result, that s why you have the reports and stories of the people around these women saying yes, this really happened contemporaneously. i would say that that also was the case when we were doing reporting on now president trump
and talking about the women accusing him of acting inappropriately. in each of these cases not only did these women go on the record republican risk their reputations and reporters pushed them to find people who could say what was happening. what s remarkable is not so much that mish mccobble is calling for royal moore to leave the race because mcconnell was not a fan of his before this, but the tact that the people in the state and the congressmen who are representing alabama that they have not pulled their endorsement. that shows to me as a political reporter i would bet on roy moore winning the senate seat because the if the people in alabama are still sticking behind him, those are the people that matter most. it doesn t matter what the republican establishment in d.c. thinks. if voters are lined him, he s going to be seated. there was some suggestion from pat toomey on meet the press with chuck todd of not seating him or taking other action. there s been a diversity of
reaction from republicans in the caucuses how to deal with this if he is elected. what was so startling to a lot of them and where the defense of him tanked was after his initial interview with sean hannity, certainly not a hostile interviewer on fox radio on friday. let me play that. would it be unusual for you as a 32-year-old guy to have dated a woman as young as 17? that would be a what, 15-year difference or a girl 18? do you remember dating girls that young at that time? not generally, no. if i did, you know, i m not going to dispute anything but i don t remember anything like that. but you don t specifically remember having any girlfriend that was in her late teens even at that time? no, i don t remember that. and i don t remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother. jonathan capehart? i mean, what do i do with that? without the permission of her
mother? that right there is a red flag. also a red flag in our story in the washington post is the fact that when he went on a couple of those dates, he didn t pick the young woman up at her home. he picked her up around the corner from her house. i think you know, roy moore is should be in serious political trouble. but to pick up on i think it was what yameche was saying or maybe vaughn. the fact that the senate majority mitch mcconnell has called on him to quit the race and says he believes the women, i think doesn t hurt roy moore at all because this race in alabama as we have seen has been set up as a battle within the republican party between the republican establishment and the steve bannon wing of the republican party. wow, we have to leave it there. thanks to jonathan, yamiche alcindor and, of course, our
friend vaughn hillyard down in alabama. great work down there, vaughn. thank you. coming up, two former intel chiefs criticizing president trump over his muddled messages on russian interference in the campaign. the top democrat on the house intelligence committee adam schiff joins me next. stay with us.
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. to impugn the character of somebody like jim clapper on veterans day who has dedicated so much of his life to this country i just find that outrageous and something that i think that the that mr. trump should be ashamed of but it doesn t seem as though anything he does he feels any shame whatsoever. former cia director john brennan on cnn after president trump called the former intelligence chief s political hacks this weekend for their agency s assessment that russia did meddle in the 2016 election. joining us now, congressman adam schiff, top democrat on the house intelligence committee. congressman, thank you very much. just following the course correction also of the way the president treated vladimir putin on this trip this weekend was pretty remarkable. your reaction? well, the whole thing is remarkable and remarkably bad.
here you have the president of the united states meeting with a foreign adversary basically saying i not only accept mr. putin at his word but it s insulting to mr. putin to raise these things. and these other people of the contrary view who happen to be the former heads of u.s. intelligence agencies they re a bunch of hacks. it really unthinkable and while this does some more damage to the intelligence community, it mostly damages the president himself. it impeaches his own credibility. people know director clapper, director brannan. and have enormous confidence and faith in them within the intelligence community and without. and we now have a situation where the president of the united states says well, i raised the russian meddling issue during the meeting and they re saying no, he didn t. the white house saying he raised with the philippine autocrat human rights abuses and they re saying no he didn t.
honestly, we don t know who to believe. who would imagine a situation, andrea, where people around the world our allies and foes alike don t know whether they can believe the word of the president of the united states. this is what he s brought on himself. and senator mccain s tweet about all of in this weekend was that there s nothing america first about taking the word of kgb colonel putin over u.s. intelligence community. there is no principled realism in many cooperating with russia to prop up murderous assad regime. to do so places national security at risk. then you had the president at a news conference in vietnam trying to sort of correct the record saying well, let s take a look at this. i m surprised that there s any conflict on this. what i said there is that i believe he believes that. that s very important for somebody to believe. i believe that he feels that he and russia did not meddle in the election. as to whether i believe it or not, i m with our agencies
especially as currently constituted with their leadership. i believe in our intel agencies. as currently constituted. so i mean he had also in disagreeing with the conclusion about the 2016 campaign he also dissed his own intelligence, his own dci, the director pompeo and the intelligence community dan coats and what all of them have been saying ever since. this is exactly right, andrea. he s saying beak the intelligence agencies are just political agencies. and i couldn t believe them because those career professionals like clapper and brannan who served the country for 30 or 50 years respectively, well, you just can t trust them because they re part of a political establishment. now i ve got my own political establishment and doing my own politte skafths intelligence communities. that s a horrible message that nobody within the ic believes or accepts. but it denigrates the agencies
nonetheless. this is just how he operates. there s this is constant motif, everything that came before me was awful and bad and wrong and we were dupes. and now everything is great. but he goes overseas, he doesn t put the country first as john mccain said and i made the same observation immediately when i learned of his comments. he s putting putin and putting his own, donald trump s own narrow personal self-interest before the country. and that is a terrible quality to have in the president of the united states. and after an insult from kim jong-un, calling him either old or a lew na tick or some such thing, a dotard he tweeted to squim jong ung why would he insult me old when i would never call him short and fat. oh, well, i try so hard to be his friend and maybe some day that will happen. trying to figure out how that advances relations in the region against north korea. well, it doesn t.
here s the thing. there are things that we can doing constructively and need to be doing working with our allies in concert bringing broader pressure to bear on chinaton crack down on north korea. and nothing the president is doing is helping with that. and the clock is ticking, time is not on our side here. the north koreans continue to make progress with their missile program with their nuclear program. we need to have everything going in the right direction working together within the administration and with our allies. and when we re engaged in petty insult exchanges with the north korean dictator in which case you can t tell who is saying it, is that the president of the united states saying it or the north korean despot saying it, that is not serving our national interests, and unfortunately, it s not as if the world is standing still while all this is going on. i think our place in the world, our leadership in the world is receding and our security is receding along with it. thank you very much,
congressman schiff, for being with us. when you were all in session, it s going to be a busy week in house intel. it is. on the senate side, senator rapid paul announcing he is returning to work today after sustaining six broken ribs and lung damage as a result of an alleged assault by his neighbor. senator paul tweeting this morning kelly and i want to thank everyone once again for your thoughts and prayers for my recovery. while i m still in a today deal of pain, i will be returning to work in the senate today ready to fight or liberty and help move forward with tax cuts in the coming days and weeks. coming up next, veep joe biden isn t rolling out ruling out a run at the top of the ticket in 2020. highlights from the former vice president s exclusive appearance on the today show next right here. stay with us. let s take a look at some numbers:
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there s a number of things that he s doing well. but even the things he s doing well is how he does them. i do think there are things he s doing well. i think he s but it s more the tone of this administration that bothers me. there s a lot of the country that s still functioning. for example, the choice of keeping the military personnel that we left behind in place in the middle east was very, very important. he hasn t changed that policy. and he s copied that policy. i think he s doing that very well. what changes do you think the democratic party needs to make in order to be successful in 2018 and 2020. i m referred to in washington in the last 20 years as middle class joe. it means i m not sophisticated. but i think there s real reason why a lot of middle class people are legitimately concerned. and i think there are answers and. last election what happened was because it was such a mosh pit
in terms of hillary s inability to be able to, not her, she tried but to get the message out about the middle class, about what she was going to do about education, what she was going to doing about child care what, she was going to do about these things. and the middle class is i think we have to respond and let them know there s significant hope. just and i formal poll quickly. does it sound like he s running? raise your hand. if you missed it, he just did the sign of the cross. and there was this moment, a moment of shared personal grief with a mother in the audience who talked to biden opening up about how he copes with losing a child after she shared her experience. as a mother who are has lost two kids to gun violence. god love. you what advice would you give to families and parents
that are dealing with the pain and hurt the loss of their children? mom, you re the very person i ve been talking about. there s so many people out there who have suffered more than jill and i have suffered. and get up every single day and just put one foot in front of the other and my guess is you ve done the same thing i ve done. you looked at what your sons would be doing and what they cared about and you re devoting your life to doing that. joe biden, the entire interview of course, is online. and take a look at it. it s very instructive. meanwhile, at least 414 people now declared dead when 6,000 injured after a 7.0 magnitude quake struck between the border of iran and iraq. rescuers scrambling to find survivors trapped under collapsed buildings but they were hindered in many areas by landslides. residents were told to stay outside their homes because there have been more than 100 aftershocks.
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we re living in an age when the trump white house is denying climate change, disbanding scientific panels at key regulatory agencies and appointing nonscientists to other points. at a time when innovation and creativity are not valued we can learn lessons by looking at the era about what it means to be a renaissance man and leonardo da vinci. joining me walter isaacson, his new book is number one on the new york times best seller list for a third week in a row just after publication. congratulations and thank you for joining us. it s great to be back with you. well, i think people would be fascinated to read what leonardo wrote. he was a 30-year-old writing to the ruler of milan applying for a job. and as you recount, he wrote ten
paragraphs touting his skills designing bridges, waterways, cannon, armored vehicles. he listed artist as an after thought. what does this tell you about the quality and range of his genius? leonardo genius. leonardo wanted to know anything you could possibly know and wanted to try everything you could possibly try. he wanted to be an engineer. he wanted to be an anatomyist, he he wanted to study waterflow and be a painter and sculptor. it was that ability to hop around to all sorts of disciplines instead of doing what we do to our kids sometimes these days and say, you have to specialize, you have to just keep focused on one field. i think by loving every single part of the infinite works of nature, he was able to make himself more creative. he saw patterns and he was able to appreciate how science and art connected and how the humanities and technology connected. and you ve learned so much about him from his notebooks, thousands and thousands of
pages. in his notebooks of how he created, you see his on the paper, he was looking at cadavers, sketching. and then not just his envision but sketching from having gone to the morgue, bisected, dissected cadavers before he even started painting and sculpting. even to learn how to do the smile. one of the most amazing things about leonardo is being able to go page by page through his awesome notebooks. they re scattered around the world from, you know, paris and venice and milan to seattle, where bill gates owns the scientific one of the scientific notebooks. if you look, he crammed so much on a page and you re just showing the man, the guy in the circle in the square. that shows the connection of art to science. that sort of symbolic of how do we fit into the earth? how do we fit into all of
creation? that s a self-portrait of leonardo, with that intense stare, that beautiful athletic body he had and the golden curly hair. there he is on those notebook pages, continually trying to discover things and then saying, how do we fit in? what is our role in this life? and that s why leonardo is more than just an artist. he s somebody that we can say, all right, let s try to be curious like leonardo, let s try to be observant like him and let s care about the facts being skeptical about things, challenging things, and sometimes, as he did often, revising our own beliefs and theories based on new evidence we discover. that was something we used to be very able to do in this nation. what about him as an outsider, born out of wedlock but his biological father permitting him, encouraging him, enabling him to study, to learn.
and the facts of his life had he not been born out of wedlock in florence, he would have been forced into the family business, which was a notary. right. as you said, he has the good luck to be born out of wedlock otherwise he would be a notary like his father, grand foreand gre grandfather. he s blurring the distinction between innovation and observation which is not exactly what you want your notary to be. secondly, he didn t go to university. he wasn t crammed with the dusty old scholastic studies of the middle ages. instead, he s born the same year that guttenberg opens a print shot. so, leonardo gets to be self-taught through experiments and through reading books. and so you see him thinking for himself. and this is what the renaissance is about. this is where innovation comes from, where you challenge the preconceived wisdom but you say, i m going to be guided by the facts.
. the other piece of this is that florence was so tolerant. he was gay and he was actually in competition with a younger painter, michelangelo, about to have this great new exhibit at the met in new york. the fact that these men were able to explore all of their lives and not be ostracized or discriminated against. leonardo, as you said, was a misfit. he was left-handed, he was illegitimate, he was gay, he was somewhat, you know, skeptical and radical at times, he was a vegetarian for part of his life. and the cool thing about florence in the late 1400s when leonardo gets there from the village of vinci, is that it becomes a cradle of creativity because it s perfectly comfortable with the people, steef jobs would say, here are to the misfits, the rebel, the
square peg in the round hole, to be different. if you can be that way, say, we have all sorts of people, people coming in from constantinople, we have fur traders, and bankers, and jewelry makers, working with chemists, working with artists to create great architecture like the dome on the cathedral. all of this comes from a live and let live attitude that says, if you re talented, if you re cool, if you re really trying sxhard hard and innovative, we don t care where you came from. we really embrace this sort of mix of people. that s what florence was like. that s why it becomes a cradle of the renaissance. that s why leonardo, even as this 12-year-old who arrives there from the village of vinci, gets to thrive in a place where he s beloved, even though he s a bit of a misfit. very quickly, walter, you ve
done jobs, you ve done einstein, you ve done ben franklin. is this your favorite genius? yeah. i ve tried to culminate his creativity, how do achieve it, steve jobs, ben franklin, but leonardo is that pinnacle of that mountain. he s someone we can relate to. he s not like einstein where you ll never do the math the way he did. leonardo had a little trouble with math but he still loved the beauty of everything from in science and in nature and in art. and he taught us, we can be a little more that way by just pausing, being very curious about things, being very observant and being open to mystery. well, it s an incredible achievement. leonardo leonardo, thank you very much. no, i m good. come on, moe. i have to go. (vo) we always trusted our subaru impreza would be there
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a fashionable place to take a stroll the idea is to see and be seen. modern high rises bumped up against elegant nineteenth century buildings and there s one duty after the next but it s not all luxury here there are also mainstream chain stores independent stores and snack bars. i want to pack as much as possible into my trip along the course first my plan for today shopping culture and sightseeing we also head to the zoo and will be taken some coping very highlights too so let s go. also on the show a trip down memory lane how the quantum became berlin s most famous shopping street . we had to mongolia on our weekly bure video.
and we enjoy a killing there a tour of porto with local food you have the opportunity you. buy starts the day with. shopping after all it s the major attraction on the cool and surrounding streets for stop the looks. department store. it s located on telling us it which is an extension of the cool jump germany s most famous department store opened in one thousand nine hundred seventy. shoppers will find everything they need and don t need to hear from porcelain decorative objects and shoes. to excess or ease. to school the. answer if it s food you re after there s an entire floor that s an absolute paradise for good mates. from
a burger to sushi you re bound to find just what you re looking for. and if you re not hungry yet you can take something home for later exotic popcorn for example some coffee beans or a witch of pungent cheese. the cool food is a paradise for shoppers and also for culture of here s a brief overview of what you can find in the area you seems galleries theatres and cinemas you name it. the cool first and is a great place for offensive photography there are two famous museums right knee of by. c.e.o.
berlin is an exhibition space devoted to contemporary photography it showcases works by famous artist and talented new commas. i m is the museum for photography which features works ranging from the nineteenth century to the present. an exhibition on contemporary chinese photography and the cultural revolution is running till january. down the road is the show buena one of the city s most innovative the it is the building used to house a cinema but live performances are what attracts the crowds today. the laws i do know one of the shelbourne a stars has also made an international name for himself as a film actor. talking
a more real church could feel the olympic stadium yesterday and for. the cold war era the first and was the center of west by land. but after the fall of the berlin wall it lost some of its drama the former east became fashionable while the cooldown seemed stuck in the past. but a lot has been done to banish the image in recent years many new buildings have gone up others have been renovated. at this it has been a huge transformation after the fall of the wall there were only cheap shops here but now it s much nicer to. invest more people are coming to the west to see what s going on. there s something new every day no talk of us noise posted like the
christopher street day parade for instance all big celebrations after football matches. once again the qudama is one of the busiest time best streets in the city . my next stop is the zoo located just off the cool. it s home to some twenty thousand animals and oasis right in the middle of berlin. to new panda bears are the current favorite attractions arrived in the summer the public loves him.
and then there are the tap ears i m going to have zookeeper you can feed them. but what do they like to eat you know the south american flag as far as the top is in the mountains and the top is eat plants. like this and if you know yes raisins carrots apples cooked carrots what other names. when i was the boy were not ones maya. and i had to. live very friendly they use their tongues to take the food but i also had all teeth so you have to be a bit careful. should i put my hand out flat. just take the food like this and pop it into them out like putting a letter in a post box. how would i make a good zookeeper. if i like you can stroke him behind.
i have some questions for catalina stiefel the pastor here. forty for this century it is a memorial get a reminder of the impact of war why is this building so symbolic to five enough that there are hardly any traces of the wall left in the city almost everything is being renovated or rebuilt it s rare to see the destruction of war like this bomb tower in such a prominent place. in up to. some you call the q fifty to the church as very central and it s very well know them how do you deal with the responsibility as a pastor you have problems with. them. we try to do justice to as many people as possible. thanks to a visitors paul we know we get one point three million visitors each year and more than ninety percent to tourists so we re different of course from typical local churches and we do community work like any other church but we also do work for the
city and then i m going to try to do justice to this special place by having four to five tours a day for example. a few of us from. and it s a much better than an attack took place here in december of two thousand and sixteen twelve people were killed while visiting the christmas market here what were those days like for you know the appt as i was now. and that you know those were exceptional circumstances there was a lot of solidarity during those days that was what was positive about it. there were people here who helped others we re here for others comforted people that was very touching but of course i still wonder why why did this happen it s a question you can ask but there s no single easy answer. ok if you know thank you if you re welcome as. almost
a year later flowers and candles still commemorate the victims on the nineteenth of december twenty seventh a memorial will be inaugurated a golden crack in the ground in front of the church will recall those who were killed despite this terrible event the chis of village in the morea church remains a place of recounts alleviation and buy chai plots remains the heart of berlin s fibrin city west district. as you know from time to time check in viewers invite us to their hometowns to show us the local highlights this time we visit on the appointee now to import oil and he takes us from one restaurant to another here is our meat a local flood. a lot and then the day when i do our morning for through i live in portugal and i love and also look for the food i m actually considering and i go from place to place getting in drinking
all i ever see in the in my life and today i m going to do that with you as well and when you think it through a few places in town for that you can discover pour through through food and we re starting here at buy that he would have breakfast like any pork will have and would do it ressa and a cup of coffee. one of the things that i love to do in portugal is walking because while walking you can take a look at these beautiful narrow streets with a lot of these beautiful buildings that can go as far back as the sixteenth century and while doing so you re actually burning some calories you re getting some appetite to get some more food and you get to discover it and then that that s wrong and you know the corner in town.
we just crossed the river from portal to wolf it s a close by port in which locals come through it s a bit off the beaten track of the. most well known through city places in forth but it s definitely a place for you to come through if you want to eat amazing grilled fish. or. although it s a hilly see it s pretty walkable as well and can also find secret beautiful views were downtown for. the.
question. what s easy is. i hope that you enjoyed this journey through the streets of forth and using food as our guide and let me say that there are still a lot of things for you to experience an in finding your own reasons for you to fall in love with for two why not being a visit to the nightlife district where you ll find that there s a bit of everything for everyone there and be sure to have fun. come. close. to home or. must stand the test and get the right yes.
just like in porto you don t need to look far to find a restaurant on the cool. coffee kunstler was already a landmark on the cool down before the war. coffee gloss has revived some of the spirit and splendor of the past and is popular with locals and visitors alike. but i m looking for something else today something a bit more down to earth i want to carry worst. and you re screwed i m one ninety five it s one of the most famous places to eat this hearty berlin specialty it s not the consul or bush but it s also a favorite with celebrities. even victory then roy where here x. german chancellor gads huda and tennis legend what was back up well and i think
they liked it here. so let s give it a try cherry worst might be rather rustic but here you can also order it paired with a very elegant drink the menu includes not only beer and soda but also champagne an interesting mix. this coming nation is something new it s an acquired taste but it s kind of tasty. also on the usual the curry worst is served on china plates everything on the is a bit class year even a good old berlin worst exquisite boulevards have their fair share of exquisite hotels and there are quite a few around the core first dumb from the classic to the modern here are three recommendations for you not really cheap but certainly worth a visit. to. the camp in scioto bristol is
most definitely a cool down classic. it opened in one nine hundred fifty two and was the first luxury hotel in what soon became the divided berlin. dozens of movie stars politicians and artists of stage here including michael douglas and col lagerfeld. grown dragon stayed here nine hundred ninety in the presidential suite of course though he was no longer president at the time. there are two hundred forty six rooms and fifty five suite. three restaurants. by just one. and of course a spa. venue a walled off
a story a is just as luxury as the building is one hundred twenty metres high and has been nicknamed the tall fence to. window. to view over the nearby zoo and surroundings is certainly everything you could ask for. this five star hotel has one hundred fifty two rooms and eighty suites this. i m sure small b. gives a glimpse of the luxury to come. in this design a hotel the day is an hour longer than most of the twenty five hours hotel also has a few other attractions up its sleeve. if you re more of a jungle person you should reserve of room on the left side overlooking the sea. if cityscapes a more you ll think then reserve a room on the right hand side. the
popular among is located on the tenth floor if you want one of their signature cocktails you will have to line up for the elevator but the wait will soon be forgotten once you re in the first in the unusual surroundings and checking out the fabulous views. the cool person is one of the finest addresses in berlin what i really loved was the cosmopolitan elegance i can t think of a better description right now but i reckon you ve got clipped us a famous german actress and singer and this song a first from one nine hundred sixty three was a tribute to the grand old boulevard. so they move in the post and.
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