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heavy voting, more than 32,000, 57% say no, 25%, a little bit more, according to that fox poll than where he's running ride now in the results, against joe biden, say, yes, so we'll keep watching it. social media reaction, what else is coming in during the course of the program? i know a ton. plenty more interviews in conservative media but an anti-vaxxer is a no go for the democratic party. i'm not here to make the case for him. i'm simply suggesting that yes, you can dismiss him with that one line. and by the way, as someone fully vaccinated i have a problem with his stance on that issue. but there's much more to his candidacy as peggy noonen pointed out today in her column and as mark hallperin talked about in his newsletter today. others are seeing what i'm seeing that he might have a moment, he might have a moment and whether he gets on that debate stage will be very interesting. one more quickly, if i have time and i think that i do. what do we have? i want someone better than biden, trump, desantis, and rfk
are hate groups out on the march, the president makes a point always of sending the same message. which is see here, it is not a big deal, it doesn't really bother me. this is like the message in all of this, which is are you going to call barack obama and hillary clinton to express your concern or condolences or that you're going to, you will fight to the last dog dies to find out who sent the pipe bomb, i will pass. that's what he said on friday. we will pass on that. he is constantly trying to give the message to people in those hate groups that he is not troubled by their hateful behavior, by their violent behavior. he does not rise to it, not because he doesn't have peggy noonen, he doesn't have disgrace, certainly he doesn't have any grace, and he does not try to tamp these things done, and in fact, he sends the opposite message. last week, we had a debate between gillum and desantis and gillum he was right on the
truth and fact. which, i think, is good for nobody. and i think -- i think people who supported this during the year will rue that decision. >> peggy noonen takes these two points and tries to at least explain why we're in this moment carol and amy. he could have broadened his position with a air of stability and moderation. and with policies that were soft populism. he has failed to do so. primarily due to self-indulgences. tendency to heat things up. his tendency always to make the situation a little worse, not a little better. his tweets, his immaturity, his self-pity alienate and offend. >> that is -- >> well put. sort of puts this -- like why does that list of accomplishments. >> not come with a better job approval rating for this president? what why does a good economy not come with a better job approval rating and he did have a chance at the very beginning of this administration to put together a brand new coalition. not just of the people that voted for him, but of course the people that didn't vote for him.
it's not trump. the problem is, other republicans in leadership haven't been supporting trump's policies. that's been the main problem. he couldn't get the votes for getting rid of obamacare. and he hasn't gotten a lot of republican support for tax reform. this program will help people like trump, because when you cut corporate taxes and you cut the top marginal rates. everybody benefits. david: all right. well, that's a good point, e-mack, that make makes is that it's not just donald trump, i mean, there's the whole infrastructure that has to vote on it, congress, et cetera. peggy noonen wrote to this point in the wall street journal this weekend. paul ryan, compare this to 1986 when ronald reagan won tax reform. that's another world. a broadly popular president, both parties were strong each working however reluctantly with the other. >> in the reagan era, you had democrats on board with the reagan tax cuts.
welcome back. we are so happy to welcome peggy noonen. she's known as the columbusi -- columnist journal. she worked for years in tv nuew and lived to tell the tale. she will try whenever possible to preview her saturday column on friday nights, peggy permitting. this week's column is entitled under anesthesia, everything was beautiful. kind of hunteresque thompsonesque. welcome to you. thank you for being here. >> thank you very much, brian. for all you just said and for asking about the column in "the wall street journal." it makes me happy. >> while we want people to read the column, what's the tease you give people, especially coming off that kind of foggy hazy title? >> yes.
leaking starts when people are dissatisfied that they're not getting heard. so what do they do? they go and try to influence that from the outside. you have to have a team mentality. the general certainly understands that and i think that's kind of team playing discipline he's instilling. leland: team playing if it starts in the west wing, conceivably makes it easier to get things done. reasonable people can agree that it's not been successful in terms of what they want to get done on capitol hill. peggy noonen writing this in the wall street journal about general kelly. generals are not known for a lack of self-confidence. if he goes up against mitch mcconnell it won't be a big dog versus eager puppy, in that i'm guessing she is referring to reince priebus. and he has how much, if you w t
it would give credibility to their thought that trump represents the perfect anti-establishment guy. that's why the establishment is trying to kill him. >> no one would regard peggy noonen as a member of the liberal media. the column you won't for the wall street journal this week helps him. when he's perceived of being under attack, they rally to him. >> yeah, that's true. i think his supporters feel he has a lot of enemies. once they see somebody pushing back against something he said or did, they -- they are very good at calling you -- they see themselves, i think, in a way as a very special and closed group. anybody who doesn't see it their way is a rhino, do you know what i mean? >> absolutely. >> i'm sure you've been called them. >> my god, yes.
my book, peggy noonan, thank you for being here. so who are donald trump supporters? polls keep painting white, older, working class, high school educated, but they are not the only ones. joining me now, an i.t. specialist in the finance industry and micah surah, a data scientist and political policy researchers. i joke to packs, wait a minute, we ordered two angry white guys and you two show up. does the media get it wrong when we judge who the supporters are? >> largely, i think so. it's not necessarily that it's a body of white angry people, it's also just trump has a message that somewhat affects me and somewhat i can believe with and agree in. >> what is that message, what is it about donald trump that's affecting you? >> it's the kind of shining city on the hill, the american exceptionalism idea, america, it's time to kind of go back to a yesteryear when things were somewhat more economically
this, republican voters will choose delegates in the next year and more of them than ever will have a say in this process. >> tuesday night's going to be a huge night, and i will see you in vegas. >> look forward to it, thank you for having me, and safe travels out to vegas. >> so, trump, the gop can't win with him, but can't win without his supporters. and trump supporters like trump himself, they don't care about the republican party. that's what columnist peggy noonen reported this week in "the wall street journal," she knows what she's talking about, having once written speeches for president reagan. she's just published "time of our lives," updated with new insights and she joins me now. you know, because i've told you before, i love this book, i love your work, and even when i disagree with you, i have to respect the manner in which you've presented it. >> fair enough and i thank you very much for that. very big compliment from you. >> thank you. let's talk about the donald. so these establishment types who say this guy can't win, but we
had a hurricane. so, of course we plan for scenar scenarios. what happens if there's a transportation issue, we will prepare for every scenario. it would be malpractice for us not to do that. especially after the last two weather related conventions. anyone who tells you we're not preparing for variety of scenarios should have their head checks. we're not doing it in a closed door way. the bottom line is this, republican voters will choose delegates in the next year and more of them than ever will have a say in the process. >> tuesday night will be a huge night. i will see you in vegas. >> look forward to it t thank you for having me. and safe travels out to vegas. so, trump, the gop can't win with him. but can't win without his supporters. and trump supporters like trump himself they don't care about the republican party. that's what columnist peggy noonen reported this week in the