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the supreme court. >> trump's lawyer, alina habba, said on fox news today, interesting, trump is deeply concerned that the supreme court justices, particularly the ones he appointed, may shy away from being pro trump because they're trying so hard to look neutral. i imagine that is not a legal argument, but there is some messaging that's intended to get to these supreme court justices to say, don't overdo it, don't bend over backwards to not look like you're on my side. i don't know how a lawyer with your experience evaluates a statement like that. >> i think they are working the reffs. but i don't think, you don't, certainly, this court has a very conservative worldview. i don't know that they're in a bag for trump. but i do think that it may be easier for them to find some off ramp to avoid deciding the question. and donald trump's brief provides them with a number of off-ramps, for example, finding that the office of presidency is not covered by the 14th amendment.
they, unfortunately, are -- sometimes shy away from being pro-trump. they feel even if the law is on our side, they may appear to be swayed, much like the democratic side would do, right? they're trying hard to look neutral that sometimes they make the wrong call. i'd encourage them to look at the law and the constitution. >> george conway, from former president trump's point of view, what is worrying about this? to andrew weissmann's point, his lead argument is more of a campaign argument, campaign slogan that he's used for anything that comes his way that he doesn't like. it's not actually countering the eligibility question, the issue of engaging in insurrection, which doesn't mean a crime has to be committed and a conviction has to happen, just whether or not he engaged in insurrection and whether or not he is
concern that a court that has -- he appointed three of the justices for the supreme court and gave the conservatives a super majority, he's concerned that they will look as if they're trying not to rule in his favor and might rule against him. >> martha: what do you say about that, alina? >> martha: that's a concern he's voiced to me and everybody publicly, not privately. his concern is a valid one. you know, republicans are conservative. they get nervous. they unfortunately are sometimes shy away from being pro trump because they feel that even if the law is on our side, they may appear to be swayed much like the democratic side would do, right? so they're trying to look neutral. sometimes they make the wrong call. i just encourage them to look at the law and the constitution. there's no politics that should be involved in this. it's simply american.
keep investigators busy and parents worried. you know, sometimes there are law enforcement consequences foo these things. this week we're going to see four straight days of sentencings for members of pro trump, armed right wing paramilitary groups whose members have been convicted of seditious conspiracy against the u.s. government. those sentencings start tomorrow in federal court in washington and continue all week. but even as we await those ue sentencings starting tomorrow, today the georgia bureau of investigation, which is the georgia state version of the fbi, they had to send a message to all state lawmakers in georgia asking lawmakers to please report all new threats they receive, all concerning interactions with members of the public. please report those to law enforcement because of a heightened threat environment for politicians in georgia because, of course, there is a i
unfurling scream of bomb threats to oklahoma elementary schools. after the far-right education commissioner in oklahoma decided that he would amplify extreme right attacks on an oklahoma elementary school librarian. which has resulted now in days and days and days of death threats and bomb threats targeting oklahoma elementary schools. headline in the tulsa world, more school of palm three keep administrators busy, and parents worried. and sometimes there are law enforcement consequences for these things. this week we're gonna see four straight days of sentencing's for members of pro trump, armed, right-wing, paramilitary groups. whose members have been convicted of seditious conspiracy against the u.s. government. those sentencings will start tomorrow, and federal court in washington, and continue all week. but even as we have all the sentencing starting tomorrow, today the georgia bureau of
attacks on an oklahoma elementary school librarian, which has resulted now in days and days and days of death threats and bomb threats targeting oklahoma elementary schools, headline in "the tulsa world" more school bomb threats keep investigators busy and parents worried. you know, sometimes there are law enforcement consequences for these things. this week we're going to see four straight days of sentencings for members of pro trump, armed right wing paramilitary groups whose members have been convicted of seditious conspiracy against the u.s. government. those sentencings start tomorrow in federal court in washington and continue all week. but even as we await those sentencings starting tomorrow, today the georgia bureau of investigation, which is the georgia state version of the fbi, they had to send a message to all state lawmakers in georgia asking lawmakers to please report all new threats they receive, all concerning interactions with members of the
>> evan perez outside u.s. district court in washington, d.c., thanks so much. rahel? >> boris, thank you. with me to discuss a former federal judge nancy gert ner and former manhattan district attorney jeremy saland. nancy, i want to start with you in the georgia case. you are a former federal judge. talk to me about the why. what advantage does mark meadows and his team see by wanting to move this to federal court? >> there are a couple of concrete advantages. one concrete advantage is the fact that the jury pool in federal pool draws from more than just atlanta, it would actually draw from the neighboring counties, which across the country typically means suburban voters and typically means -- would be conceivably a more pro-trump configuration than just the city of atlanta. so that's one advantage. the other advantage, it would be an opportunity to present
we need to send real leaders forward. >> 30 years from now, someone will see this and think that guy was president of the united states? >> what is it about the biden/harris administration that makes republicans persuadable? why do republicans need to be persuaded. why are republicans rs like, th is terrible? i would rather vote for him than biden and harris. >> that's what the leaders are saying. leaders that have not necessarily been pro trump, they keep saying, i'm going to vote for him. i'm going to vote for whoever gets the nomination. governor kemp said that. it's one of those things where it's something -- you can sit here and talk about integrity and leading with truth and all that stuff. but when the rubber hits the road, you gotta be able to act your values. >> why do you think governor kemp is saying that? do you think he loves donald trump or he fears what four more
obama and i am afraid we are dealing with the same type of amateur. >> gave me a hug just like you did obama. >> this is why margaret satcher said if you want something said ask a man if you want something done ask a woman. >> the reason that vivek ramaswamy was percolating he was fresh on the stage was seven career politicians a quick 38-year-old indian american entrepreneur with bright white teeth. he will stand out. just like trump did in 2016. he did not make friends on stage pretty was interesting and provocative. he will never be president but he found a pro trump outsider lane and generated heat. >> unlock american energy drill, burn coal and embrace it
prosecutors to give them enough information to try to act as neither a pro-trump witness nor an anti-trump witness. that was his strategy going in, to not be very negative about trump but also not to be defending trump. >> joining me now is temadaya williams. thank you for being here. mark meadows is a fascinating case. because he did -- it did feel like something was missing in the federal case when you're like, where is meadows in here? he was barely mentioned. then he gets indicted in georgia. so from what you have been able to see, there has been fear in trump world that he was, quote, a rat, that he was somehow cooperating. he did cooperate with the january 6th committee to a great extent and then pulled back and then, you know, there were charges recommended for obstruction, but that never happened. he was never, ever charged with defying the committee. do you read it as he cooperated with the feds and didn't in