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State of the Union-20131222-17:25:00

data that might be the thing that breaks the camel's back and we don't find out about the attack. there's an understandable temptation in the intelligence side if you can collect it to collect it. one of the themes of our report is that just because you can do it that doesn't mean you should. and so we tried to figure out some ways to really keep the key things going and to make sure that happens, but this particular database we did not find essential. >> so in broad terms, there are 48 recommendations here and you looked at more than just this program. you looked at some other tactics of the nsa, some other programs. what would you say surprised you the most that you found sort of across the spectrum? >> i don't know if it's a surprise but it was a pleasant surprise to see how following the law the nsa is. from the outside people have worried that it's a rogue agency, that it's not following the law. and now they have people working very hard to make sure that happens.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20131203:17:32:00

i.r.s. is acting as a rogue agency here. i think what they're doing is deliberately by design and concert with the administration's intention. it's going to be costing -- it's going to be a huge undermining of the very notion of the rule of law. >> the government and its motion to dismiss this case argued the plaintiff's reading of the act is wrong. congress made clear an exchange stands in the shoes of an exchange the state chooses not to establish and the treasury department has reasonably interpreted the act to provide for eligibility for the premium tax credits for individuals in every state, regardless of which entity operates the exchange. by the way, government's motion to get this case dismissed was denied. today both sides are set to make their case around 2:00 eastern time. jon: let us know what happens. thanks. jenna: it is such an interesting case. we'll talk more about this with our legal panel. we have a criminal defense attorney and a former federal prosecutor.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20131103:20:12:00

about this suggests that he's either not being truthful, or not doing his job, at all. >> yeah, the implication of that, and this idea that the nsa is somehow a rogue agency, like in a hollywood film where they just got all these people going out on their own and listening to whoever they feel like just because, well, it feels good, and we can do it so we will do it. that's not really plausible. >> the nsa came out this week on wednesday hearings with the head of national intelligence, and head of nsa and saying first of all, everything we do, we get guidance from the white house. and yes, you can always say this was -- this information came from this, it's something as important as we got it from the chancellor of germany angela merkel that would be fairly clear to the president when he's being briefed. >> so there's some discussion now that what should happen is we have, the united states has, an agreement with five countries, britain, canada, australia, new zealand and the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20131102:18:12:00

so the idea that he didn't know either not being truthful or not doing his job at all. >> yes, the implication of that -- this idea that the nsa is somehow a rogue agency like in a hollywood film where they've got all these people going out on their own and listening to whatever they feel like just because, well, it feels good, and we can do is so we will do it. that's not really plausible. >> the nsa came out this week on wednesday at hearing with the head of national intelligence and keith alexander, head of nsa, saying, first, everything we do, we get guidance from the white house. we don't always say this information came from this tap. if it's something important as we got it from the chancellor of germany angela merkel, that will be fairly clear to the president when he's being briefed. >> there's some discussion that what should happen -- the united states has an agreement with five countries, britain, canada,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131030:17:42:00

be defending the nsa. people talk about scandals, talk about the nsa as a rogue agency. that's nonsense. they're patriots doing their job. >> senator feinstein and senator collins have both said they were not briefed. shouldn't the intelligence committees be briefed about the personal phones of friendly foreign leaders being eavesdropped upon? >> well, as chairman rodgers said yesterday, we get briefings. anyone who wants to take the time can figure out. now, i cannot personally say anything about angela merkel. i have always relied on the presumption from documents can i've seen that world leaders are being surveilled, are being watched. how else when they give these psychological profiles, when they give a president a briefing before hand, before he's going to meet with a foreign leader, you know, where do they think this information comes from? for president obama to say that he knew nothing about it, if that's true, then he's very disengaged and certainly people around him and very close to him must have been told about it.

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Piers Morgan Live-20131030-04:19:00

there are much more restive muslim populations on the european continent than here. we over do it all. there is no doubt about that. cut us slack for the protection we've given you-all this time. >> that could be an endorsement of what the nsa has been doing and what you said about edward snowden. so where do you come down more on the side of? are you -- >> it's hard to say because we don't really know what the nsa is doing. i'm for more transparency but you can't have complete transparency because they are a spy agency. you're keeping secrets. of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows about it --

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Piers Morgan Live-20131030-07:20:00

is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows about it -- >> he claimed he didn't know the nsa had been bugging angela merkle for years. >> they are in an agency or oliver norths, we don't need that. >> what about edward snowden in terms of the amount he disclosed. people have a view of manning on wiki lakes. >> movies are too long. yes, i mean the -- i can't remember the guy's name. i think it's bradford who said, you know, when you keep making the haystack bigger, it's harder to find the needle. look how many people are on the terrorist watch list, over a million. how many people have security

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Piers Morgan Live-20131030-01:20:00

of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows about it -- >> he claimed he didn't know the nsa had been bugging angela merkle for years. >> they are in an agency or oliver norths, we don't need that. >> what about edward snowden in terms of the amount he disclosed. people have a view of manning on wic wiki lakes. >> movies are too long. yes, i mean the -- i can't remember the guy's name. i think it's bradford who said, you know, when you keep making the haystack bigger, it's harder to find the needle.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131030:17:31:00

who think we can't do this. this is the first budget conference in a divided congress since 1986. so we have our work cut out for us. i was really pleased with the meeting this morning. you know this. you've seen meetings like this. when you hear a lot of nonnegotiables put on the table at the start, it's almost always not going to work out. that did not happen this morning. that's positive. >> that certainly is a good thing. i want to also ask you about the nsa and the concerns about the nsa becoming a rogue agency. reports today from "the washington post" denied by keith alexander just now, apparently, that the nsa, that our spies are actually unknowingly going into google and yahoo! centers and retrieving data. where does it end? >> well, i have grave concerns about this, andrea. there was a report that i saw that the taps of the phone may have even tapped the pope's phone. we've got to get to the bottom of this. i'll tell you, i have a suspicion about one of the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131029:17:17:00

credible if president obama, as he claims, did not know president obama was spying on one of his most trusted european allies. >> unfortunately it is credible. nsa has become this rogue agency that does go off on its own and do whatever it wants. you would think the president or white house would be aware of that. at the same time an incredibly opaque world that is unto itself that operates actability. i don't know what's carrier, the president did know, approved it and is lying about it or didn't know and nsa took it upon itself to do that. >> california congressman adam schiff will be among those raising questions at the hearings. he's stopped off on the way. thank you very much. >> you bet. >> what's the most important thing you want to hear from the head of the nsa and national intelligence. >> couple of things. the hearing was originally supposed to be focused on

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