fine with me. you can keep going. you know, i ran into ayanna pressley in massachusetts a few weeks ago and she told me unofficially off the record that they had polling inside their campaign that was more positive than the public polling which showed her significantly behind. and you know, candidates always tell you that. they always say our private polls look better. but she was very convincing about it. and that district in all the iterations that steve was describing from when it was jfk s district to tip o neill s district to capuano s district, those borders have changed a lot in the district and the way it weaves its way now around boston, through boston. but this is the new face of boston. it is an amazing and kind of wonderful thing to see for someone like me who grew up in a strictly segregated city where this was impossible. to see michael capuano tonight give that concession when i think only about 11% or 12% of the vote was in. at the time he started conceding we didn t even have a call of the election from the associated press or anybody else. but clearly when she told you that her polling was better than you might expect from the public information he must have been looking at some of that same stuff because they knew right out of the gate they were toast. and looks like she s going to written by a lot. looking at neighborhoods he was supposed to do much better in they saw him getting crushed. was a obvious way to read it at that point. but rachel, trying to squeeze this in in a newsday that includes everything that it has included, including your great interview with john kerry, this has been quite an hour you ve just been through, and now i m going to try to squeeze an awful lot of stuff into the next hour. thank you, lawrence. thank you, rachel. well, bob woodward has done it again. he has written another book that goes deep inside he another presidency. and as usual, portions of the book appeared in the washington post first. they appeared today, a week before the book will actually be published. bob woodward has spent his career at the washington post and has written books about the inside workings of every presidency beginning with the nixon white house. bob woodward quotes white house chief of staff john kelly, calling the president an idiot. he quotes defense secretary james mattis comparing donald trump s comprehension level to a fifth or sixth grader. he quotes james mattis telling the president he s trying to prevent world war 3. he quotes donald trump calling his attorney general jeff sessions mentally retarded. and he quotes the president s former criminal defense lawyer john dowd telling the president that if the president testifies under oath in the mueller investigation the president will end up in an orangeup psuit. the lawyer told the president you are not a good witness. and so tonight the trump white house has made the mistake of going to war with bob woodward, a war they cannot win, because they don t know how bob woodward does it. and that means they don t know what they re up against. the white house press secretary issued a written statement saying, this book is nothing more than fabricated stories. john kelly issued a written statement denying he called the president an idiot. defense secretary james mattis issued a written statement saying the contemptuous words about the president attributed to me in woodward s book were never uttered by me or in my presence. that appears to be a reference to the description of trump as a fifth-grader. but james mattis does not seem to dispute any of the other many quotes attributed to him in the book including his statement to the president about he the defense secretary trying to prevent world war 3. the trump white house has no idea what they re dealing with when it comes to a bob woodward book, and they obviously had no idea what they were dealing with when bob woodward was pulling all of that information out of the trump white house for his book. bob woodward described some of his method directly to the president when donald trump called him to talk about the book after the book was already being printed and it was too late for bob woodward to interview donald trump for a book. because bob woodward is the consummate professional, he immediately began recording the phone call with the president and he told the president he was recording the call. the president pretended he was disappointed he didn t get to do an interview with bob woodward for the book. bob woodward explained he asked more than half a dozen people in the white house for that interview. people who said they passed the request on to the president and people outside the white house, including senator lindsey graham. bob woodward released today a recording of that entire phone call with the president. here s some of it. senator graham said he had talked to you about talking to me. now, is that not true? senator graham actually mentioned it quickly on one meeting. that is true. that is true. no, but that is true. mentioned it quickly. not like, you know and i would certainly have thought that maybe you would have called the office. but that s okay. i ll speak to kellyanne. i am a little surprised that she wouldn t have told me, that she just walked in i m talking to bob woodward. he said he told you about speaking to me. but you never told me. why didn t you tell me? i would have been very happy to speak to him. all right. so what are you going to do? so i have another bad book coming out. it goes on. and you know, i what you can count on is that i ve been very careful. evelyn, are you on? yes. evelyn ductee who s my assistant hello, evelyn. she transcribed all the tapes because with permission i taped people for hundreds of hours. good. and i think there s nothing in this book that doesn t come from a firsthand source. is that correct, evelyn? but are you naming names or do you just say sources? the names we re do you name sources? i mean, are you naming the people or just say, you know, people have said? i say at 2:00 on this day the following happened and everyone who s there including yourself is quoted. and i m sorry i didn t get to ask you about i mean, you do know i m doing a great job for the country. oh, yeah. i m sure he knows that. he s got tapes. that s what the trump white house really did not understand until today, if they understand it even now. and bob woodward played one of those tapes publicly today. that phone call with the president. to try to show the white house what he has. and then he told the president in that phone call, i taped people for hundreds of hours. and so now tonight donald trump knows that bob woodward taped members of the trump team for hundreds of hours. no one works harder at trying to find out what has happened inside the room in washington than bob woodward. and no one has more sources than bob woodward. when bob woodward was working on a book about the clinton white house called the agenda, he came to me because so much of the clinton white house agenda had to pass through the senate finance committee where i was the chief of staff. and i will never forget, bob woodwa woodward s first question to me, with no smalltalk, no beating around the bush, he wanted to know about what happened in a meeting with president clinton and congressional leaders in the cabinet room at the white house. and so his very first question to me was everyone in the cabinet room meeting says that you were taking notes, can i have your notes? if those days there were plenty of reporters who were trying to get me to tell them what happened in the meetings in the white house, in the senate majority leader s office, in the speaker s office. but no one ever asked if he or she could have my notes. bob woodward always goes for the best possible sources and notes are always better than human memory. many years later, when i was no longer working in government, i visited bob woodward s home a few times, where much of the space is devoted to his office, where his assistants are constantly transcribing audio recordings. he gave me a tour of the workshop, a place where you can see decades and decades of archived audio recordings, recordings that are the building blocks of the investigative journalism that has so often become the defining version of a presidency, the woodward version. what bob woodward calls the best obtainable version of the truth. and so tonight bob woodward has tapes and the white house has press releases. the most damning quotes in the excerpts of bob woodward s book that were already released today from the president s former criminal defense lawyer john dowd. bob woodward describes a rehearsal session with the president where john dowd pretended to be robert mueller asking the president questions. the washington post reports that in that rehearsal session donald trump s answers were stumbles, contradictions, and lies until the prevent eventually lost his cool. this thing s a god damn hoax trump erupted at the start of a 30-minute rant that finished with him saying i don t really want to testify. the book then describes a meeting john dowd with had robert mueller and mueller s deputy james quarles in which dowd explained why he didn t want the president to testify. i m not going o sit there and let him look like an idiot and you public that transcript because everything leaks in washington and the guys overseas are going to say, i told you he was an idiot, i told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. what are we dealing with this idiot for? after that meeting with robert mueller john dowd gave the president the following advice. don t testify. it s either that or an orange jumpsuit. the president then said, i ll be a real good witness. you are not a good witness, dowd replied. mr. president, i m afraid i just can t help you. and the next morning john dowd quit and he left an opening on trump s defense team that has since been filled by rudy giuliani. leading off our discussion now, john heilemann, national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc. he s also co-host and executive producer of showtime s the circus. tim o brien s with us, executive editor of bloomberg opinion. he s the author of trump nation, a book about donald trump. and msnbc contributor. and david frum, a senior editor for the atlantic is the author of trumpocracy. john heilemann, you ve done this kind of work that bob woodward has done, you ve done it on the campaign trail, most famously and most widely read, game change and other books. your assessment of how this battle is going so far as we come to the end of day one of the trump white house versus bob woodward. well, about how you would have expected it to go, which is to say very well for bob woodward and very poorly for the white house. the white house has had has been lucky in some sense in its enemies, although everything that we ve read so far from the woodward book, at least the excerpts and the reporting on it is very consistent with what we saw in michael wolff s book. it is the reality that whatever you think of fire and fury michael wolff is a more easily attacked messenger than bob woodward. again, without even being mean to michael wolff although there are issues with michael wolff. bob woodward is the gold standard. right? and i think there is and bob woodward has been in this crossfire before. many times before. and look, he s got again, you said i m familiar with it. i am. there s a really very high premium. a if you re going to do a book on deep background where you re going to say i m going to quote verbatim from meetings, from notes, from people s recollections, the pressure it puts on the reporter is that you are never going to be able to do what donald trump is trying to play the game with bob woodward about. who told you that? woodaward has said with these people he will never say i got this directly from jim mattis, from john kelly. the likelihood is he spoke to all of them. but he will never come out the reality is in many of these situations he s going to have that same quote knowing how bob works, he s going to have it from the speaker, from the person who heard, it from the people that other people in the room, other people they told about it. and memorialized perhaps in e-mails and notes of the conversation. he s never going to say who the source is. but because of the fact that woodward s been doing this for so long and because so many of his books have withstood the kind of criticism that come in all administrations of deep background books, because his books have held up so well to scrutiny for so long he s in a position of extraordinary power and although there are white house officials coming out saying i didn t use this word, i didn t use that word, what they re not doing is quibbling with the gist of the reporting and in many cases some of the people who are quibbling with the specific words are proven liars in the past. again, bob woodward not a proven liar. quite the opposite. here s the president s latest lob in the battle tonight. he s tweeted, the woodward book has already been refuted and discredited by general secretary of defense james mattis and general chief of staff john kelly. their quotes were made up frauds, a con on the public. likewise other stories and quotes. woodward is a dem operative? notice timing? tim o brien, various white houses have accused at different times bob woodward of being of the opposite party whenever these books come out. it s interesting that trump even now cannot help himself but give free publicity that s going to boost sales to this very critical book just like he did to omarosa and just like he did to michael wolff because he personalizes all of these and in the midst of it he can t think strategically. and anybody who s covered trump knows that the full picture of what woodward is present sng only consistent with all the reporting that s been out there for the last 2 1/2 years since trump began running, it s consistent with who donald trump has been since he was about 7 years old. he ran the trump organization this way. it was a bunch of people biting each other in the back, not loyal to him ultimately, and he ran roughshod over all of them. he ran his political campaign when he ran for the presidency exactly the same way. you were in the midst of that, john. you know what that was about. and the picture that s created here is amply solidified and backed up by lots of other reporting. with the additional factor that now you have bob woodward and the woodward method, which is he triangulates with sources, he backs things up with documents. he has tapes. it s a different order of magnitude from any kind of reporter that trump has ever dealt with before. in the same way that the mueller investigation is of a different order of magnitude on the legal side. but let me just say on this for a second as you you were a different kind of reporter than trump had ever dealt with before when he dealt with you, and he ended up in court with you because he was stunned that you were the one who he could not con on the question of how rich he was. so and you won the lawsuit against him and i had tapes. and you had tapes. of the depositions and so forth. but talk about trump, when he s up against something he doesn t understand because you experienced that with your own book about trump and his business. well, the tricky thing here is he is constantly up against things he doesn t understand because he s impatient, he s ignorant, and he has no real sense that he s vulnerable to anything. he s been protected his whole life, first by wealth, then by celebrity, and now by the presidency. and he s never really suffered the consequences of his phenomenally bad decision-making. until he actually stares it in the face. it clicked with him a couple months ago that don jr. might suddenly be vulnerable in the mueller investigation. in our case i don t think he ever thought the new york times or my publisher would retain attorneys to back me up. he then never thought they would get him for two days, for two eight-hour depositions in which we put his own tax returns, his own bank records and business records in front of him. and he was found on dozens of occasions to have lied. and that went into the record. and he essentially created a rosetta stone for understanding the kind of pathology and the world that trump exists in. so one of the reasons he gets into these situations is because of who he is. one of the reasons he survives them is because of who he is. and in that tape, that conversation with him and woodward, he s very blase about the fact that he s trying to lie his way out of never knowing that bob woodward tried to interview him. there s no real fear in it. he s playing ping-pong. yeah. and david frum, that s one of the great things about the tape that bob woodward released today-s there s a tape of donald trump and everything about it is false. i mean, it s just quite obvious. and people should go online and listen to the whole thing. where he s telling a recurring lie throughout the whole thing, which is that no one told him about this interview request and then bob woodward presses him just on one, on lindsey graham. he goes oh, well, okay, lindsey graham told and it s kind of a look into the way trump operates with every lie he can get away with he will try. it is a really important tape to listen to because what you also hear is as he is nailed on the lie by woodward, very elegantly and politely, the president becomes at the beginning he s relatively suave by his standards. he becomes angrier and then ultimately incredibly self-pitying. meanwhile, he summons in kellyanne conway, who s caught in a lie too. and again nailed elegantly and politely. and she has a very different method. first she tries to brazen it out, then she throws other people under the bus. then she finally desperately changes the subject. the thing i find myself thinking about a lot as i review these first stories from the book, and of course we ll all want to read the finished product, i understand as i think about it the james mattises and the general kellys. they re staying to serve the country. and i understand why they have to they feel they need to protect their position. to me donald trump is what he is and bob woodward is of course the elegant and eminent figure that he is. i m puzzled by the gary cohns, the h.r. mcmasters, the rex tillersons, the people who obviously talked to woodward, who obviously have unburdened themselves of their sense of the extreme not only unfitness but danger to the country by this president. are you going to do anything more than talk to a reporter months after the fact? why didn t you resign together? why didn t you on the day you left gary cohn, you are telling me that the president cannot remember that if you take a piece of paper off his desk that it was there, two hours later he then forgets the paper was ever there and he intended a xafrktly bad policy but it was his policy and he can t remember it? why didn t you share that with a committee of congress at a time when it was relevant? why now and why anonymously? i understand it s hazardous. but you know, a lot of americans have had over the centuries take a lot of risks to defend the country. it s not so much to risk getting an angry negative tweet from this president compared to what other people have done in order to defend your country. and david, one other phenomenon we re seeing just in these excerpts, and you re right, we re going to have to see the whole book to analyze this. but it does seem like that the people who are swimming away from this titanic that is the trump white house or rowing away in their lifeboats, however you want to put it, are very eager to tell bob woodward extremely negative stuff about the president, which means it seems like they re very eager to try to claim a space in the sane world as fast as they can. reince priebus and as you say gary cohn and others who appear to be sources for this book. yeah. well, and i think many of them are obviously capable people and some of them probably morally fine people. i have a lot of respect for people like gary cohn and rex tillerson too. but own it. stand up. don t be anonymous. and don t wait. don t give it to bob woodward. we re glad to have it in any way it comes. but why not at the time? one of the questions presented by this book is should you serve this president? for people who are doing it for the right reasons and are in national security roles, i commend them and thank them for serving the president. but if you are going to leave or if you re forced out, make your resignation count. do it in a group. do it on the same day. and then immediately spell out in detail why you re doing it. david frum, tim o brien, john heilemann, thank you for starting us off tonight. when we come back, the most revealing moment in the kavanaugh confirmation hearing today came when brett kavanaugh refused to shake the hand of a man whose daughter was killed in the mass murder at her high school in parkland, florida. that man, fred guttenberg, will join us and tell us what he wanted to say to the nominee. also tonight, we have more revelations from bob woodward s book and the new york times is reporting that special prosecutor robert mueller has made the president a new offer. but it s an offer that the president s lawyers might want him to refuse. the fact is, there are over ninety-six hundred roads named park in the u.s. it s america s most popular street name. but allstate agents know that s where the similarity stops. if you re on park street in reno, nevada, the high winds of the washoe zephyr could damage your siding. and that s very different than living on park ave in sheboygan, wisconsin, where ice dams could cause water damage. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? tonight t the new york time is reporting that special prosecutor robert mueller will accept written answers from the president on questions related to whether his campaign colluded with russia to intd feerfere wi the 2016 election but not about obstruction of justice. it s still unclear whether mueller will continue to try to interview the president about obstruction of justice or subpoena the president to answer questions about that. according to bob woodward s new book fear the biggest problem for donald trump and his lawyers has always been donald trump. donald trump gets the last line of the book, and it is in the description by the president s former defense lawyer, john dowd. trump had one overriding problem that dowd knew but couldn t bring himself to say to the president. you re a f-ing liar. joining our discussion now, harry littman, former u.s. attorney and deputy attorney general under president clinton and maya wiley who served as counsel to new york city mayor bill de blasio. she s an msnbc legal analyst. and maya, in the woodward book we re seeing that john dowd is calling the president a liar and the new york times reporting that robert mueller has partially given up on the idea of ever getting an interview with donald trump and is interested in possibly getting written answers at least on the collusion questions. yeah, i think it s pretty clear that donald trump can t tell the truth on a regular basis. we know that. that s clearly something he has demonstrated in public. so it s not so surprising that someone like a john dowd, who i think has denied, it may have said something like that. i think at the end of the day the issue here is donald trump can be forced to testify. i think the supreme court would uphold that unless brett kavanaugh is a supreme court justice potentially sitting on that bench. but the question for mueller is how to wrap this up. he probably wants to do that because of the election, and this is an opportunity to do that. harry littman, the written questions is a very unusual step in a criminal investigation. i m not familiar with a case where that s happened before. but it is exactly what happens in civil litigation. i think a lot of people out there are thinking, well, it will be a lot easier for the president to answer written questions under oath. not necessarily, as people discover in civil lawsuits, when they re given written questions called interrogatories and they have to answer those under oath. it can be as difficult and challenging even trying to do the written version. it can be difficult and challenging. for a guy like trump it s not as difficult and challenging. it can be sculpted by the lawyers and carefully put together. but you know, the number one rule with mueller is he knows 50 times what we know and we re not aware of. so i think if he s saying this and making this kind of concession it s not because as the times sort of quotes or suggests that team trump feels that he s been worn down but rather that he feels, as maya says, he may not need the evidence. i think he s playing with a strong hand, not a weak hand. and maya, the idea of separating out the russia collusion investigation from the obstruction of justice investigation, you can see how that can make a certain sense for the prosecutor. they are two different things. there can be intersections with them. but the president s behavior, when he s firing james comey and when he s explaining that to lester holt, that all kind of stands alone within the walls of the white house. i think that s right. you have a clear public record when it comes to trump on obstruction of justice. it makes a lot of sense that mueller would say that s not the one i have to ask you a lot about. what he really wants to know is not what donald trump knows but what donald trump is going to say in response to specific documents and questions. that s really the primary any prosecutor wants to be prepared. right? they want to know everything that they he knows. he knows what he needs to know. what he doesn t know is what s donald trump going to say if i ask him this? harry, what do you think the trump lawyers advice will be? do you think they ll advise the president not to even answer the written questions? look, i think this is one more sort of we only have their characterization of the letter. we don t really know the full flavor of it. it would be to his advantage to answer written questions. not on obstruction, of course, where mueller s going to want o know what was his state of mind. if that s really the offer, i think they take it. my sense is we re going to learn a little more about this in the next 24, 48 hours. maya wily and harry litman, thank you for joining us tonight. and coming up, a big upset win in massachusetts. tonight a come-from-behind victory by ayanna pressley. massachusetts will now have its first 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sure what to believe about it. but she was pretty persuasive. she described everything that was happening in the district very persuasively. so i am not terribly surprised tonight. yeah. i think mike capuano certainly surprised. and the reason, a lot of this has to do it s the state of the democratic party right now. what democrats are looking for in this district and nationally. but it s also this. this district, it s a big portion of the city of boston. the other big piece of this is the city of summerville, massachusetts. michael capuano was the mayor of summerville before he went to congress. he got elected to congress 20 years ago. the reason he won that democratic primary in 1998, he won the city of summerville that year by 45 points over his nearest competitor. how much has summerville right outside boston, used to be half young professionals, half working class, that was always sort of the mix, it s been changing through the years. tonight summerville is 50-50, between ayanna pressley and mike capuano. why did he concede so early? he saw those numbers out of summerville and said it s not going to get any better for me in boston, another parts of this district. you see pressley running away with it. just in terms of the history, whatwhat this means, we talked about this last hour, but the lineage of this seat, kennedy, tip o neill, another kennedy, capuano, and now the first african-american female who will ever represent massachusetts in congress. and steve, even on her the night she won here in new york, alexandria ocasio-cortez actually mentioned ayanna pressley as one of the other candidates around the country who she was rooting for, she was supporting. they are very much very similar kinds of candidates taking over similar kinds of districts that had changed demographically while a long-time serving member of the house enjoyed a rather easy incumbency. yeah. two women of color who had defeated long-serving white males in districts that have become majority non-white. but i also have to say quickly when you look at this, when you look at how pressley s doing there in summerville i ve got to say this is a lot of this is not just people of color voting for ayanna pressley. i think there are a lot of white voters in this district too who looked at her and said you know, what maybe it s time, let s go with her. absolutely. and i know a lot of those white voters. she s a very popular politician in boston. steve kornacki, thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it. coming up next, what could have been i think the most important moment today in brett kavanau kavanaugh s confirmation hearing. it was the moment he refused to shake the hand of a man whose daughter was killed in the mass murder at her high school in parkland, florida. that man, fred guttenberg, will join us. hungry eyes one look at you and i can t disguise i ve got hungry eyes i feel the magic between you and i i ve got hungry eyes now i ve got you in my 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are two separate questions there. one question is what did trump mean by it? and the answer is i m sure trump had no idea what he meant by it and it was the typical trump gibberish coming out of his mouth. sought defense secretary did what we have all been hoping and praying people in these positions have been doing. woodward apparently describes it in someplace here in the book because it s been quoted in washington post and other places as an administrative coup d etat. that puts a negative spin on it. others would say guardrails for humanity. guardrails of the safety of the planet. is that some of these people like jim mattis are in this job precisely to do this very thing, which is to stop the president from doing things that are rash, ill-considered, obviously dangerous, right? you see it throughout in this reporting, that that seems to be the case. they all the stuff that s most unnerving in this book beyond the thing we were discussing earlier in the show, the complicity and cowardice of the people around trump, the enabling behavior, beyond that the most disturbing stuff in the book is on foreign policy because all of these people look at him and say you re a dim witt, you re a child and you re dangerous and we have to save you from yourself. and then there are the personal grudges, tim, that the president doesn t want facts to get in the way of his personal grudges. bob woodward s book reports the scene where the president is describing john mccain s experience as a p.o.w. in vietnam and says the opposite, the exact opposite of what everybody knows. he says that john mccain was released early by the north vietnamese because mccain s father was such a high-ranking u.s. navy admiral. and then the book quotes james mattis as immediately correcting trump and saying, no, mr. president, i think you ve got it reversed. and the defense secretary then explained that mccain, who died on august 25th, had in fact turned down early release and was brutally tortured during his fine years at the hanoi hilton. to which trump says, oh, okay. so tim, it seems that trump had been getting away with that lie around any other circle in the white house until jim mattis is sitting there and has to correct him because truly that isn t the first time trump tried that. and remember, this is the donald trump who successfully got five draft deferments sew didn t have to serve in the vietnam war. donald trump, who refused to fly the flag at half mast over the white house after mccain passed away. he s the guy who holds on to these grudges for a very long time. you know, david frum touched on this earlier and john touched on it, is why does anyone serve in this white house? and i think the short answer for the most part is because they re craven. people are either getting their resumes stamped or they re trying to get ahead in the world. mattis is the one person you can point to i think, though, very clearly as seeing himself as a buffer between trump and the abyss. and you see it in this north korea anecdote because the most dangerous thing about donald trump is as he s learning on the job and he s learning how to be president on the job what he s going to naturally gravitate towards are the areas in which he can act unilaterally. everything that requires him to reach out to capitol hill or rely on a team, things like overturning obamacare or passing any kind of sophisticateroad legislation, he s going to fumble. the things where he can just write an order or issue a command is inevitably going to attract him. and that s where it gets very scary on issues like assassinating assad or bombing north korea. and why having people of conscience and courage and a spine like mattis in that white house does really matter. but he s an exception to the rule in that white house. just go back, quickly go back to the mccain thing. because it s not just that he holds on to grudges. it s that he holds on to crazy conspiracy theories. and you know that where he got this was on twitter or from the weekly world news or wherever else he gets his information. he s been believing for a long time precisely the opposite of the truth. and i m sure after mattis corrected him in that meeting trump went on to repeat that story that oh, okay was not oh, oh, my god, i ve been wrong this whole time? oh, god. how do i fix this misapprehensi misapprehension? what it was was oh, whatever. and then he went back to believing what i m sure he still to this day believes which is that mccain was a traitor, that he got out early that he s not a war hero. that he was a manchurian candidate. all the crazy stuff that lives in the right-wing fever swamps of social media where trump gets most of his information about things are still i m sure firmly implanted in that frontal lobe of his, whatever that and tim, nowhere does donald trump have stronger support than in alabama, but alabamans don t seem to realize what donald trump thinks of them. the woodward back has donald trump referring to jeff sessions this way. this guy is mentally retarded. he s this dumb southerner. he couldn t even be a one-person country lawyer down in alabama. and so clearly and we had the report last week of donald trump making fun of jeff sessions and his accent, and his southern accent. and so clearly if trump supporters in alabama understood donald trump s real attitude toward them, there might abe different support level down there. i think that s the wild card about the wood ward baward book real world impact is it going to have. you saw in the kavanaugh hearings that the gop is not going to let go of donald trump until they have some goods in the bag. tim o brieen and john heilemann, thank you for joining us tonight. when we come back, what i thought was the most stunning and revealing moment in today s confirmation hearing. it was something brett kavanaugh refused to do. heartburn and gas? now fight both fast new tums chewy bites with gas relief all in one 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confirmation process closely, you probably learned nothing that you didn t already know about brett kavanaugh in today s hearing except this. the two men facing each other there are both proud and loving fathers. one of them has two children. the other used to have two children. now he has one. his 14-year-old daughter jamie was one of the 17 people killed in the mass murder at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. fred guttenberg explained what you re seeing in that photograph this way. just walked up to judge kavanaugh as morning session ended, put out my hand to introduce myself as jamie guttenberg s dad. he pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. i guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence. here is the video of that moment, and you will see fred guttenberg is the first person to speak to brett kavanaugh when he gets out of the witness chair. four . the photograph of brett kavanaugh turning his back on fred guttenberg went viral almost immediately and by the time brett kavanaugh made his opening remarks, the white house was already issuing statements defending brett kavanaugh turning his back on fred guttenberg. so i had high hopes for brett kavanaugh. high hopes that he would find fred guttenberg in the audience and just shake hands with him, say something sympathetic to a grieving father in his opening remarks, perhaps, but he didn t. he could easily have just added a sentence or two. that s the most it would take to his opening remarks. he didn t say a word about fred guttenberg or fred s daughter jamie, but he did talk about some other girls, girls with very bright futures. for the past seven years, i ve coached my daughters basketball teams. i love coaching. all the girls i ve coached are awesome. and special congratulations to the girls on this year s sixth grade cyo championship team, anna, quinn, kelsi, shawnee, chloe, alex, ava, sofia and margaret. i love helping the girls grow into confident players. i know that confidence on the basketball court translates into confidence in other aspects of life. i love everything about that. i love that he loves coaching his daughters team and i love that he gave a shout out to them and the other sixth graders on the team. i love everything he said there and i believe he means every single word of that. i know that confidence on the basketball court translates into confidence in other aspects of life. not if you don t get to have a life. not if a mass murderer walks into your school when you re 14 years old and takes your life away, and that s what happened to jamie guttenberg, and now her dad goes everywhere he can and reaches his hand out to everyone he can to try to bring sanity to america s gun laws. he did it to me at a big crowded event in washington. fred guttenberg approached me the same way he approached brett kavanaugh today with that outstretched hand and said, i am fred guttenberg, i m the father of jamie guttenberg who was murdered at parkland, and those words, those words froze me in place, listening to every word that he had to say. marveling that he could compose himself and smile through that unimaginable burden of grief. and today fred guttenberg tried that same approach with the nominee for the supreme court of the united states and the nominee turned his back on him and then when given a chance to apologize, to clarify, it didn t seem to even cross his mind. so even though brett kavanaugh took no questions today from the senators, we learned more about him in his response to fred guttenberg than we will probably learn about brett kavanaugh in the rest of the hearings. and joining us now, fred guttenberg. lawrence, you just gave me my first legitimate laugh of the day. i remember exactly what you re talking about at the march for our lives on march 24th. i remember walking up to you and those exact words that you described are exactly what i said today to judge kavanaugh. when i got to the part about my daughter jamie was one of the kids murdered in parkland was when you see him turn around and move the other way. and, fred, just as a as a human experience, i just have to tell you that when when i heard those words from you, it was like it was just like a cementing in place. it was like the world i forgot the world around me. there was nothing else to do except take in what you had to say. i would assume that most of the time with most people in washington who you approach, who you try to talk to about this, when you identify yourself that way, that they they must respond to you, don t they, most of them? you know what, lawrence? they do. and i don t make an effort just to go up to people who i think believe in gun safety. as you said in your open, guy up to everyone. i want to talk to everyone about this because if you agree with me then we work together. if you don t agree with me, i hope to change your mind or at least find a place where we can agree because it s in everyone s public safety if that happens. justice kavanaugh judge kavanaugh does not agree with my positions. as a dad i watched him introduce his kids. he has a beautiful family. he seems like an amazing dad, and i m sure he s a wonderful man. i ve never really met him other than the effort to shake his hand, but i know by his public statements, i know by his rulings that i have reason for concern. i ll give you an example. we passed gun safety in florida. it s passing in other states around the country. everywhere we pass safety, the nra files a lawsuit. the nra is right now spending a lot of money to get him selected and what will eventually happen is one of these lawsuits, maybe it will be florida, will end up in front of him and he will have to judge it. i am concerned that something like raising the age to 21, which we ve done in florida, red flag laws, which we ve done in florida, eliminating bump stocks, which we ve done in florida. before we get to all the more serious stuff, he would rule unconstitutional. i hope to speak to him as a father and look him in the eye and tell him, those few things would have saved my daughter. not the bump stocks, but raising the age to 21 and red flag laws. and, fred, was it was it clear to you that he could hear what you were saying to him? oh, listen, i have no doubt i know my voice. i m certain he heard my words and i m certain when he heard me say my daughter jamie was murdered in parkland, that s when he turned. fred, i ve been in that hearing room many, many, many times and i can absolutely back you up that anything said from that distance in that situation is easily audible in a situation like that and i ve seen many people engage in conversations in those circumstances many, many times. so i m sorry that it turned out the way it did for you today and i really appreciate you joining us here tonight, fred. really, thank you very much. fred guttenberg. thank you for having me, lawrence. thank you. fred guttenberg gets tonight s last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. tonight, the explosive allegations from bob woodward s new book, describing the white house in the midst of a nervous breakdown, an unhinged president off the rails and lacking in basic knowledge about the world. mr. trump tonight is on the counterattack and so is the white house. on foreign policy, tales of a president ordering an assassination and questioning war strategy toward north korea. we ll run it all by the former cia director john brennan with us
neighborhood of pittsburgh. shawn henry was just looking at the social media. mr. bowers has an anti-semitic past. reportedly arrive with anti-semitic comments. it is also said he shouted anti-semitic comments whether upon capture or surrender or inside the synagogue remains unclear at this point. let s listen to what the president said a short while ago about the situation. here it is. a terrible, terrible thing what s going on with hate in our country, frankly, and all over the world. and something has to be done. something has to be done. about it looks like the results are coming in. and they are far more devastating than anybody originally thought. if they had protection inside, the results would have been far better. this is a dispute that will always exist i suspect. but if they had some kind of a protection inside the temple, maybe it could have been a very much different situation. there is the president again at jont base andrews about to board air force one. he is on his way to a campaign style rally, the first of two today. joining me now on the phone, jonathan dienst who has brought us a lot of information today. i understand you have more to share with us. jonathan, what do you have? basically, we can provide you with the update and summary of what law enforcement knows at this hour. they are learning a lot about the suspect given his activity on the social media, including apparent anti-semitic statements towards the hebrew sheltering and immigrant aid society which is a new york city-based organization on fifth avenue which helps bring in refugees at times from the middle east to various communities. and he apparently had posted some hateful and concerning messages a couple of hours before this shooting incident. so that is something that has law enforcement here in the new york area now running around to follow up on those possible leads. in pittsburgh, obviously the concern is for the officers and the worshippers who were in that synagogue given the multiple fatalities, given the weapon that was used, the ar-15, and this clear appears to be a hate crime detectived toward congregants at that synagogue. as you were speaking i was getting a printout of the things that were listed on the social media some of which i would rather not say. but it certainly backs up that there was a tipping point a couple of hours ago, maybe three hours ago it is hard to tell by the printout here before obviously the incident took place. and basically, he alerted on social media, i will say the last three words there, i m going in. that is chilling. there is that, and there is also, based on what tom winter and pete williams were reporting about some of the comments that he allegedly made to officers going in and out of the synagogue while he was shooting, making some anti-semitic rants, apparently, that, you know, clearly this is an apparent hate-filled attack targeting jewish members, jewish community. as a result. that is where the investigation is leading at this time. here in new york, the n.y.p.d. is responding to all synagogues as a precaution until they get a better sense of who this guy is and is it just a lone actor. that is routine nowadays in major cities across this country. i am sure you will see the same thing in boston, chicago, los angeles until they have a solid feeling about this guy. now they are going to have to go into his social media, his home, his computers, and to see where did he get these guns, and when did he decide to come up with this plot, this plan to target that synagogue. absolutely. our colleague shawn henry formerly affiliated with the fbi said they are already on that and has gotten updates on that as well. jonathan, i am not familiar with the website of hias, do you know anything about this website that was cited by the shooter? i am just learning myself about it. i can tell you what i have been briefed by some law enforcement folks, and we will be in touch with them, meaning the organization and the anti-defamation league that is also getting regular updates. what i can tell you is they have offices here on fifth avenue in manhattan here on 37th street. that s their headquarters. and they explained to me they are like a charitable group. think of catholic charities, if if you will, and they do various social service, public interest efforts, including helping the elderly, including apparently helping or getting involved with assisting refugees. at least that appears to be why this lone individual was angry at this synagogue today. we have reached out to the group. we are waiting to hear back. obviously it s the going to take some time to hear back from them. but that is what s going on. i can tell you the n.y.p.d. and the fbi here in new york are now on it and heading to those locations to conduct interviews and also make sure that they are secure. he so you are going see not only an investigative presence at their offices, but a physical one as well with heavily armed officers standing by as this investigation moves forward certainly over the next hours. yes. n.y.p.d. having as you well know already launched police officers in marked cars to jewish synagogues around the city of new york in a precautionary manner. jonathan dienst much appreciated. when you get more information we will bring you back on. thank you for that we also heard from the president a short time ago, nbc white house correspondent kelly o donnell joins us. he had a free wheeling interview before boarding air force one. this was the president s first opportunity to comment on the events unfolding in pittsburgh. he expressed sort of the horror everyone shares how this has escalated as the number of believed deaths has gone up and he reacted and those initial ways. he also talked about the fact he will have a more fully prepared statement when addresses the future farmers of, he ma it is not a campaign event. it is a white house events that will be in indianapolis. he will have a campaign rally later this evening in illinois. but the president will also be before a large audience and will have an opportunity when some of the facts are pulled together for him to be able to speak more broadly. he also said that he had spoken to the governor of pennsylvania as well as the mayor of pittsburgh. and the president was willing to take some questions. and this was an unplanned sort of impolice man thieu moment. and among the questions asked of him related to his position on revisiting gun law after the number of these mass shootings and violence with weapons in our country. here is part of that exchange with reporters outside air force one. mr. president, do you think you need to revisit gun laws? talk up, please. gun laws. gun laws, mr. president. well, again, this has little to do with it if you take a look. if they had protection inside, the results would have been far better. this is a dispute that will always exist, i suspect. but if they had some kind of a protection inside the temple, maybe it could have been a very much different situation. but they didn t. and he was able to do thing that, unfortunately, he shouldn t have been able to do. i hear the police were outstanding. i heard the police did an incredible job. and as you know, numerous police were badly injured. but, again, law enforcement did a fantastic job. but we are going to have a very complete statement for you with the results that are coming in of what took place, how it took place. again, law enforcement was outstanding. so that is one of the core issues of debate. usually it happens in the days after this incident. this is still unfolding. families still haven t been notified. there is a lot here that is just developing. so it might be recall for this conversation but the president was asked this question. and often what we hear, for those who belief there should be strong access to weapons, that that provides protection we see this whether it is in schools or in places of worship or in hospitals or public buildings, this argument about whether it is better to have people as the nra would say, good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns. that is certainly a hot political topic and one for considerable debate perhaps at a time other than this particular moment. but it is the world and the culture that we live in. president also asked about this because he has said that he could be the type of president who could interact differently with the powerful gun lobby the national rifle association. yet we have not seen that play out. the president saying he owes them effectively nothing politically and that he could be the one who cole change some of how things are handled with respect to weapons. we saw some of that coming out after the parkland shooting. yet there have not been substantial changes or any changes. there is a school safety commission continuing to do its work and there is a pledge from this administration to stop bump stocks that tool that was used in the las vegas mass shooting. but that s part of why the president was asked this question and part of why it is so much of our debate. alec. kelly o. thank you for keeping an eye on every from the white house for us. let s go to ned price, national security analyst. welcome to you. i want to reminds our viewers we are waiting for a news conference or a briefing if you have, by the public safety official there on the scene. we are waiting to get the facts and figures and know specifically how many people were injured, how many people may have been killed and any details they want to share with us about the isn t who is now in custody. as you take a breath of the situation, ned, what comes to mind as you hear the situation from today, and you hear the talk of good guys with guns being put in places to keep out the bad guys with guns, those including churches, synagogues, schools? what are your thoughts, ned? alex, thanks. a really sad day. i think both the event today and the events over the past week i think have reminded us that extremism and i think we should even call it terrorism in this case the reports that this individual as he was undertaking this rampage said something to the effects you will of a jews must die, i think it underscores for us the necessity of understanding of reminding ourselves and especially reminding this administration, holding this administration accountable for their mistaken belief that terrorism comes in only one form. i think what we have seen over the past week in this country, in both of these series of attacks, is at least appears to be from what we know now, and yes we don t have all the answers yet, but at least appears to be domestic extremism, domestic terrorism coming to the fore. we have now a president in the white house and administration supporting him who heretofore at least have portrayed terrorism as something that comes at us from overseas that the other is responsible for. i think in both of these case as we learn move i think we have to remain attuned to the fact that these could well be domestic terrorists among us who are using weapons available to them. in the case of mail bombs, in the case of an ar-15 to take on their own citizens it look like. you know, ned, do you think there is a connection to be made, however defined, between the tenor of things that we have all been witnessing this week and what we see today? and i will tell you we are also keeping an eye it looks right now that we have officials coming to a podium. but do you think that that connection can be made, that this is just in the atmosphere and it is inescapable at this time in our society. we know more about the mail bols. what is undeniable is the fact that the recipients of those mail bombs were all called out by the president. ned, as i have said they have gotten to the podium. stand by with your thoughts. let s listen to the public safety officials on scene. these were our neighbors. these are fellow pennsylvaniians. and this is an incredibly sad day. i want to thank the first responders for doing what they have done to make us safe and to respond so quickly, so picture e i so effectively to this tragedy. city of pittsburgh public safety director. as the mayor mentioned, we have had a tragedy here today. the work of the first responders probably prevented it from becoming much more of a tragedy than what it is. the scene is very bad inside. there are multiple fatalities. there are at least six injuries, to include four police officers. the police officers injuries at this time are non-life threatening. the other individuals are critical and serious in nature. they were taken to three of the level one, level two trauma centers here in the city of pittsburgh. that being al gapy general, upmc, and upmcpresby, and upmc mercy. at this time i would like to say we have established a phone number with the assistance of the fbi for any questions from victims families. that number is 412-432-4400. once again, it s 412-432-4400. a victims assistance and reunification center has been set up at chatham college at kmatham campus at bury haul at 106 bury street. we will have grief counsellors there as well as the red cross of the allow half hour for the final plans on establishment at that center. there are individuals working to have it up and running as soon as possible. a further press conference will be held at the county emergency operations center at 4:00 p.m. this afternoon of which the elected officials and first responders will give you, as well as the fbi, will give you an update. at this time, this is being considered a federal violation and the primary investigative agency will be the federal bureau of investigation. i would like to personally thank the many first responders that have responded to this incident today, to include the pittsburgh bureau of fire, pittsburgh bureau of police, the ems, allegheny county police, and fbi, atf, and numerous others that i don t even i can t even count foum hirs respond remembers here that are providing assistance. this will be a lengthy crime scene. we are asking people that don t need to be in this area, please stay away from it so that both the investigators and first responders can do their job. i will emphasize at this time there appears to be no active threat to the community. this individual that we believe, the subject that is responsible for this, has been taken into custody. that s all i have. can you go over what happened? i don t that s going to be part of the investigation. can you do the numbers one more time for us? the injuries. on the injuries, we believe six injuries, four of which are police officers. so it is a total of six injuries. how many fatalities? i will not discuss that yet until we are sure of that number. are children among the deceased. i don t want to get into that at this point. it is reported he screamed all jews must die. is that true or false? there is a lot of information. i would be cautious about what you hear and don t hear at this time. we have numerous investigators here. i would ask if anyone has information regarding the investigation they also call that 412-432-4400, and that will put you in contact with the fbi. wendell can you tell us what the situation was in there? how many people were inside? and was a service going on. i don t have that. i don t want to give you my understanding was there was a service occurring. can people in squirrel hill leave their houses? that s correct. however, we are setting up a very hard perimeter around the crime scene. and we ask, you know, individuals to stay away from that. so there will be a very secure presence around the crime scene just to protect the integrity of the investigation. the person taken into custody, were weapons recovered off of this person. i don t want to get into that. do you believe he acted alone, 100%? onto get into that. right now what we have is one subject in custody from the scene. whether or not, as all these investigations we have to look into every imaginable fact to find out if there is anyone else that s been involved. what s the next step for you, sir. is there any evidence of a bomb? i m sorry? was there any evidence of a bomb. there is not. explosive ordinance officials went flew the scene and there is no evidence of any ieds or any further step. what s the next step for you, sir. for a moment there you sounded emotional and a hand was placed on your shoulder. tell me how you feel right now. it is a horrific crime scene. one of the worst that i have seen. and i have been on some plane crashes. it is very bad. all right what s his identity, the shooter? i don t want to get into that. like i said there is a very active investigation going on right now. haven t you identified him. who are we going to hear from at 4:00. i m sorry? who will we hear from at 4:00. myself, the sac, special agent in charge of the fbi the u.s. attorney as well as elected officials. a lot of moving parts. what is the next step here? the next step is secure the crime scene. the fbi has both assets from both western pennsylvania and from d.c. enroute here. they will be running the investigation and the crime scene with the support of both the allegheny county police and the city of pittsburgh police. did the shooter actually attend the synagogue at any time? i have no idea. i would like to mention the state police, you know, they have been instrumental in helping us out as well. is it six people or at least six? as far as the injuries right now we are at six injuries. can you identify the gunman. it is an active situation. offensely we know who the gunman is but i am not going to bring that up right now. why are the feds conducting the investigation? as i mentioned, this falls under a hate crime, being it is a jewish synagogue. so it will be basically a federal investigation with the assistance of the locals, counties and state police. is the shooter among those injured? the shooter was taken to the hospital. i will leave it at that. thank you, folk. thank you very much. a pretty tough day for officials there on the scene in the squirrel hill area of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. wendell hisrich there very rightly was emotional. it is a tough thing to see but it speaks to the fact that there was a terrible crime scene inside the synagogue there, the tree of life synagogue. and he was very hesitant to give any details on the number of fatalities, which speaks to a chaotic nature in a scene like this. what he did say was there were six injuries, of custom four were police officers. they communitily had non-life threatening injuries. the others, he did not specify numbers but you could derive two others were critically wounded. they have been taken to three various medical facilities in the area. there was also the statement made in a the fbi will be taking the lead in this investigation. to that end i want to bring in a former new york state homeland security adviser. michael balboni. when the fbi is brought in with a situation like this. does it necessarily mean that this is being classified as a hate crime? we know what is alleged to have been said by the shooter who is now in custody condemning people of the jewish faith. is that what then raisee rises to the level of a hate crime, then that falls into the fbi jurisdiction? that or it could be domestic terrorism, you know, in a the fbi has the lead in any time of domestic terrorism case, international terrorism, hate crimes, or federal crime. those are all the possibilities. seasons we don t know what the motivation is specifically of the shooter, they are coming in, and the obvious one obviously it is a synagogue. thek they are going the focus on that. there is a social media aspect. you have been looking while sitting with me in the studio at his social media. robert bowers, a 46 yearly male. that s the name that has been out there. his social media has been wide. that s what the law enforcement folks do is take that down. perusing it you see the individual had hatred against jewish community. he also had hatred against the president. he had he was saying that he was going to take matters into his own hands. there is a lot of information there. you know, what they do now is they look at the social media foot print. and they are going the find out every person that he communicated with, what were the things he was saying. whether he got any help, where he got the weapons from, all those parts of the investigation. i would say it is chilling as you look at the social media and mopping the thing that were put out just this morning shortly before the attack. the last three words issued by robert bowers was i m going in so that is a chilling thing to listen to and you look at what has happened and you see that he allegedly went in, as promised. to that end michael, stand by. joining me on the phone is shawnee pellod. shawnee has a friend who was reportedly shot this morning. shawnee, where where are you calling from? the me what you know about your friend. i am at my parents house, actually. immediately when i found out i jumped in the car and i came over here because i knew they would not answer the phone on the sabbath. and my parents live at the next enter section from where tree of life synagogue is. i am standing probably i don t know, less than 300 yards from the synagogue. i can t report much on my friend, to be honest with you out of respect for her. it is shawnee. shawnee. this is a female friend of yours. do you know if she is being treated right now in the hospital. my understanding is that she s okay. i would assume she s gone to the hospital but i don t know that. okay. so you are obviously very familiar with the area. your friend, is she a frequent congrgant there. it is a typical routine on a shabat morning. i understand there was a bris taking place. might she have been attending that? you know, either is possible. not only is the synagogue house to the tree of life congregation, but there have been other congregations that have rented space where maybe they are just starting as a could go grags or they lost their space and congregation or they lost their space. i know over the years there have been more than one congregation on a typical shabat. and yes i heard that there was a bris. yeah, there was a bris going on. i am the father of two boys. yeah. i have grown up in squirrel hill my entire life. my wife as well. and when i think about the fact that there was a fact, and as a father, i had exactly the same ceremony for my two children. and they are two young jewish boys growing up in this community. this is devastating. it is hard to process and hard to think about what we do to move on from here to make sure our children are safe. how we explain this to them. shawnee it is confusing. i sympathize very much. i am a mother. we know in a the bris sar money is a baby naming ceremony, which means there was at least one infant there if that ceremony was indeed taking place. all i can say is in addition to my thanks for talking with us, best of luck, god bless on this sabbath for you, to you and your family and loved ones, and to your friend. we hope that she is okay and that she will recover. shawnee pellod thank you very much. for all of you, we will take a short break here on msnbc and stay on the very latest. i have a number of experts who will be joining me on the other side of a break. if you are just joining us and you want the know what s been happening we are getting word of at least ten people having been shot eight to ten killed. we did get officials saying there were six injuries, four of whom were police officers, with non-life threatening injuries. but a tribute to the chaos of a situation like this, we do know that the numbers are not yet firm. we are going to get those for you as soon as we can and we will bring you the latest after a break. stay with us here on msnbc. razo. alright, up and down, never side to side, shaquem. you got it? 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speaks to the chaotic situation of this. we are told among those injured, four police officers with non-life threatening injuries. the other two, presumably, though that number was not specified r in critical condition. as for the suspect, mr. bowers, he is known to have made anti-semitic comments on social media in the past, and as recently as this morning with three chilling words being the last words on his social media saying i m going in . we did hear from the president both on twitter twice, but he also approached the cameras at andrew s joint base, and answered some questions about the shooting. he was heading on board air force one. this happened about an hour ago. and among the things the president said, was calling for stronger consequences in cases like this one. anybody that does a thing like this to innocent people that are in temple or in church. we had the so many incidents with churches. they should be they should really suffer the ultimate price. they should pay the ultimate price. i felt that way for a long time. some people disagree with me. i can t imagine why. but this has to stop. the president referring to the death penalty there. let s also listen to what a witness on the scene had to say about what happened this morning. i tried getting up there and because i only live a block away from the synagogue and the street was blocked off. loads of police cars. shady avenue. rifles drawn. and i just could not believe what i was witnessing. again, that witness trying to get to the location, living just one block away from the scene at the tree of life synagogue. joining me now, nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. what s the latest. one of the things that was resolved by the public safety director in a news conference a short time ago was there were no comes to found inside. there had been reports that suspicious packages had been found and there could be explosive bombs inside. explosives experts checked those out and found no evidence of that. apparently the scene is pretty well cleared now. authorities also told us bowers, the gunman, was wounded, shot once, we believe, by police in this exchange of gunfire before he surrendered and is now in the hospital. so whether or not they have been able to question him, i don t know, because we don t know the severity of his injuries. we don t know if he s under going surgery for that wound. undoubtedly they will try to talk to him. in the meantime we had started to look at his social media postings. and some law enforcement people were also directing us toward them. his social media is rife with anti-semitic comments and also bragging about the weapons that he had. it should be pointed out the climate that we are in, especially with what we have been through in the past week that his hate is directed in many different directions. he also talks about his dislike for president trump, saying that he is a globalist, not a nationalist. a reference to the president calling himself recently a nationalist. and also saying that there can be no make america great again as long as and then he makes a very offensive jewish slur. so his hate was pointed in many directions on the social media that law enforcement has basically confirmed to us is his. and he also on social media talks about the weapons that he has. so if it is in fact the timing of this is driven by who knows what to the extent that he was thinking remarkally at all, he seems to be focused on an effort by a jewish organization that brings in refugees calling them an calling refugees an infestation and saying that that had something to do with the timing. again, who knows whether that s a remarkal thought at all. nbc just correspondent pete williams. touching on the weapons. we know he brought three with him. an ar-style weapon, a long gun as has been referred to by jim cavanaugh and two handguns. bill bratton from new york city police department joins us. considering what the new york city police department will do in the wake of this, it is my understanding you have deployed uniformed police officers to synagogues around the city. that what n.y.p.d. does when you have a swaying like in in neighboring pittsburgh? one of the benefits of the n.y.p.d. is that it is a huge department and during my time, the three years there, we created two units, critical response command, 500 or 600 officers designed to deal with corporate terrorism issues. and a 600 unit response group. all of them with long article and heavy equipment. they are are the police you see responding to these incidence with the helmets and the long guns. in addition, pretimpgts are aware of special locations such as synagogues, mosques, schools. when something like this happens the department immediately, without even thinking about it they have policies and procedures in place will start dispatching. on a normal saturday there is very frequently coverage at many of these jewish synagogues in any event in new york city. similarly on fridays oftentimes at the major mosques in new york there will routinely be coverage. new york again is probably best in class at this both in the prevention of as well as in the ability to quickly respond. commissioner we have reports of four police officers who were injured, non-life threatening thankfully injuries, but can you speak to the kinds of situation that they just delve into this morning we understand they were very quickly on the scene. they were highly praised by the governor there of new york pardon me, of pennsylvania. when you have four police officers shot though, sir, what kind of a precarious situation are they getting themselves into? we will get more details i hope in the 4:00 press conference. there was very little detail that came out in the one that you just broadcast. uh-huh. hopefully we get more specificity as to what spans pird. boo in america today all police departments what transpired. in america today all police departments train police officers they have to go in and they have to go in preferably in a team of four that they train for n. new york city we consciously designed a system that within five to seven minutes anywhere in the city we can have officers equipped with the long guns and the ballistic gear. every police car now in new york city is equipped with the helmets and the heavy-duty armor in their trunks. even precinct officers responding have extra protection. whether it is two officers, four officers or a single officer, they are trained to go into where is sacks going on. sounds like that s what occurred this morning. probably the four injuries injured is reflective of that. this gentleman was obviously heavily had a couple of pistols and an ar-15 type of weapon. those can cause catastrophic damage. the ar-15 is a highly accurate weapon even in the happened of someone who is not highly skilled in how to use it. fg we are hearing is the responding officers got there very quickly and did what they are trained to do, go towards the danger. thank you for calling in with your expertise. thank you, i know you will watching for the 4:00 update. and we will speak to you again then, sir. joining me now, steve irwin, he attended the tree of life synagogue, he lives two blocks away. he is the former chairman of the pittsburgh anti-defamation league. steve. yes. what did you see here? tell me your story on this terrible and tragic saturday? my daughter was sleeping at a friend s house a couple of blocks from tree of life and our house, came home and said this morning, opened up the door and woke us up saying there was an active shooter at the she s 14 years old. she says there was an active shooter at the tree of life and that four people were shot. literally i jumped up and turned on the tv. and my phone started to was going on fire with people all over squirrel hill and beyond. in fact, as far as germany sending me notes asking me to check to see if i was okay. obviously, my daughter at that age is regularly attending bar and bat mitzvahs at the many synagogues congregations, there is probably five within a few blocks of our home. fortunately, this morning she was not there. we just i have been checking in with my kids and getting everyone home so we can all be here until we can get a clear signal that we can go out. you are not the first person i have spoken with today who has attended services there at the tree of life synagogue. it has been extremely emotional for my previous guests because you think about the happy times, the celebratory teams, the peaceful times, the educating times that you spend in community in a place like that. what are your thoughts on that? two of my three children were bar and bat mitzvahed there. in the last several years it has become more and more difficult for congregations to afford professional cantors chls i served as a cantor at the tree of life. i know the synagogue very well. i know augusty the custodian and i am pleased to hear on television that he was able to got out. it is surreal sitting here watching on television, you know, all of my neighbors, and you know, our local elected officials, everyone on television with people running down wilkins avenue in combat gear to the synagogue. it is truly incredible. i was for a few years i was chair of the answer defamation league. i was chair during the time when the bomb hammers and taylor shootings occurred. we know there is a lot of hate in this world. a lot it is centered in pennsylvania. the ku klux klan had its offices not far in punxsutawney. we know there is a lot on the internet now for this kind of thinking and to plant seeds for this kind of thinking. the adl works with the fbi. and we have a great relationship. and the jewish community here, the federation and others, are we plan and try to educate people and prepare them for situations like this. but i can tell you, there is nothing that can prepare you for a morning like we have had this morning when you know you are just trying to we were sitting here waiting to find out who has been killed. we still don t know who is at the hospital, who has been shot. i am going to give you a little bit of an update, and before i let you go i have one who question for you. i will say we are getting an update from upmc press at thistarian treating four patients from the shooting. three victims are currently in surgery. one other is in stable condition awaiting surgery. another patient was treated and released. that is very good news. upmc mercy is treating a patient who is currently in surgery as well. that is what we have in terms of the updates. i wish i could provide you with names. would don t have access to that information. steve of course before i let you go, you may have heard the president, who gave food for thought in his brief remarks that he made answering questions from reporters before boarding air force one. and he talked about good guys with guns being able to fend off bad guys with guns in the context of potentially having armed guards in churches, in synagogues. we know he spoke that going on in schools though he didn t specifically address schools this morning. what are your thoughts on that? is that something that the tree of life synagogue has contemplated? i m sure that we have contemplated having, you know, certainly we need metal detectors. we have them in schools. it is really i know that we have to focus on this problem. and there is two problems here. there s the gun issue and then there is also the hate issue and fostering hate and fostering those kind of intolerance and those kinds of issues. it is really right now we are really in the moment. it is hard to figure out what that is. i know that i don t know how to explain to my kids when they go to the jcc or another synagogue or go to their friends bar or bat mitzvah next week, what do we do? how do we respond to that? how do you live in world there is always going to be crazy people. it goes beyond that. you can just always blame it on the fact that there is a crazy person. to arm synagogue with machine guns and usies changes the religious experience on a sha bat morning. i am not sure what the answers are but i know it s conferring that our communities has to have in squirrel hill and pittsburgh. and north versailles in al gapy county, we all need to figure out how to address this dangerous and horrible issue. steve irwin i want to thank you for your time with us. i know as a father you want to get back to your loved ones and try to make sense of the chaos and the clamity of this day. all of you, if you are joining us right now, we will bring you up to date on the breaking news we have been following the last several hours. reports of eight to ten dead in a shooting at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. a suspect is in custody. 46-year-old man, robert bowers of versailles, pens pen. he was injured. he ise is in custody, taken to a hospital and getting treatment there. he was holding an ar 15 rifle, we are told he had multiple handguns two at least. here s where the numbers are fuzzy. we are told a total of 12 people have been shot. including four police officers. we had the director of public safety though for the safety pennsylvania saying there were six that were injured. that included the four police officers. all with non-life threatening injuries. two were in critical condition. as for the suspect, mr. bowers has an anti-semitic past if you look at his social media which has been taken down. own of our analysts has been looking at his twitter feed. it is reportedly rife with anti-semitic comments. and we did hear from the president a bit earlier, answering questions about the shooting as he was boarding air force one. let s listen to what the president had to say. it is a terrible, terrible thing what s going on with hate in our country, frankly, and all over the world. and something has to be done. something has to be done. but it looks like the results are coming in and they are far more devastating than anybody originally thought. if he had protection inside, the results would have been far better. this is a dispute that will always exist, i suspect. but if they had some kind of a protection inside the temple, maybe it could have been a very much different situation. the president there now on board air force one going to meeting, followed by a campaign rally later on this evening. michael bam bony, i introduced you recaller, former new york state homeland security adviser. you were looking at the social media. you have also been getting information from colleagues of yours that are active in law enforcement. tell me what you are learning. that he had come prepared to reek havoc in the synagogue, that he actually brought extra ammunition. whether that s extra rounds of loose or whether there was something, another clip that he had for the ar 15. picking the sabbath morning to go, he was assured that there would be people in temple. and there were. and also, the fact that he was yelling thing as he was firing the weapon. i do want to ask you to clarify that. because we have reports of him yelling something despicable about people of the jewish faith. right. when he was apprehended, he algdly surrendered to police officers after being injured. but you a but your sources are saying that was also being shouted inside the synagogue. as he was firing he was yelling the epithets and the racial slurs as well. are you getting any sort of an update on the condition of inside the synagogue? i know you were with me as we were watching wendell, the public safety direct error who was nearly brought as we were watching the public safety direct director. and as commissioner bratton mentioned, the ar-15 is a very effective weapon when it comes to causing this type of devastation. and to be in close quarters and to have those kind of rounds, just imagine i don t have any specific information what the scene looks like. i will tell you know that this question good what shouses of worship can do, soft targets, there are places that do have armed guards. so this will be an issue that will bubble up as well as gun control. absolutely. michael, thank you for being here. i want to speak now with ned price. i know that you originally were going to be speaking with us broke all of the bo about all of the bomb paage pac and nwe have this now. is there is a way to relate the two? with the atmosphere of tremendous discord across this country, can one lead to another? can there be copycat incidents? well, there certainly can be. and i think that that is something that law enforcement at both the state and federal level will be tuned into. but i think what we have compared what we endured the past week, obviously there are different know vamotivations, be is one understand lying commonalty, at least one that appears to be and that is hate. hate on the part of the individual now in custody for sending those mail bombs to more than ten individuals, apparently a political hate. in this case what we have seen today, it seems this person was motivated by hatred for jews. but this hatred that under girds both of these attacks is not dissimilar. and i think that we have to as a country do to terms with how we are here and how we have gotten here. but also come up with solutions. you know, president trump today seemed very passive. and i think that his phase yol gi was it is a smahame. i haven t heard this before, to propose things that really would do little if nothing at all to make us safer. so i think that we need to focus on the underlying cause here. and our department of homeland security, our department of justice, law enforcement at the state and community level, they have experiments with programs to deradicalize, to counter violent extremism of all forms. and i think that that is something that in administration has not been willing to support to the same degree, but it is something that we have to commit ourselves to if we re going to be able to prevent future incidents like these going forward. and ned, the president made that statement, said that he would make a more complete statement maybe perhaps the sensitivity that he may feel, the fact that his son-in-law jared kushner who is both a jewish practicing with his faith and also jewish by culture, his daughter ivanka has converted to the jewish faith. they are raising their children in the jewish faith, they spend a typically jewish saturday for those who respect that with no television, and they have very limited activities on the chabot. and we have also heard from melania trump and she has put out a tweet that says my heart breaks over the news out of pittsburgh. the violence needs to stop. my god bless, guide and unite the united states of tamerica. but final thoughts on what you think the president needs to do. i think theat he is a president who has in many ways exacerbated tensions within our country and i believe frankly the hate within our country. i think that the president and then we have him go out and say this is something that has to stop now. and in some ways only i can fix it as he said on the campaign trail. this nt can can t be something sticks to for 15 seconds and then reverts to when speaking off the cuff. this is something that the president needs to be serious about in all moments because the american people are watching. and we don t of course want the american people to see the president as an example and to have him further emboldened, further in-flanl tflame the ten already existing. ned, thank you so much. that is a wrap of this hour of breaking news. david gura will pick up the coverage of this deadly shooting at the top of the hour. stay with us. take your razor, yup. alright, up and down, never side to side, shaquem. you got it? come on, get back. quem, you a second behind your brother, stay focused. can t nobody beat you, can t nobody beat you. hard work 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(vo) ask your health care provider about tresiba®. welcome back. we re continuing our coverage of breaking news out of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. here is what we know at this hour. a shooter is in custody after opening fire at the free ofynag. he is robert bowers. and 12 people were shot, six injured including four police officers, at least eight are dead as a result of that shooting. president trump expected to speak later this hour in indianapolis. we ll take it live. i want to start with pete williams. get us up to speed here. we heard from local law enforcement a few moments ago. and it happened about 10:30 this morning according to witnesses and law enforcement people when robert bowers carrying at least two firearm, we believe a handgun and semi automatic rifle, an ar-15 type rifle entered the synagogue and began opening fire. at some point he came back out, there was a confrontation with police, gunfire was exchanged. he came back out a second time and was arrested. he is now in the hospital with what one gunshot wound. according to a witness, there was some concern that he may have 4re6left behind explosive devices, but the police say that there weren t any. in terms of who robert bowers is, born in 1972, 46 years old, from the pittsburgh area, he has a notorious social media presence. and his social media is arrive oig with rife with anti-semitic comments. and it is sponsoring refug
that does it for us tonight. we ll see you again tomorrow night. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o donnell.ow good evening and welcome to our special labor day edition of the last word. we are now 64 days away from election day and the latest nbc news wall street journal poll shows 50% of voters want democrats to take control of congress. 42% want republicans to keep control. we are now 64 days away from and eight of those 25 now it is time for the last word with lawrence o donnell. that does it for us tonight. it is either that or an orange jumpsuit. the book comes two weeks to the day michael cohen testified under oath that the president personally directed him to break the law in an effort to win the white house.wi yet in the white house press no, but that is true. mentioned it quickly., not like, you know and i would certainly have thought that maybe you would have called the office. but that s okay. i ll speak to kellyanne. i am a little surprised that she wouldn t have told me, that she just walked in i m talking to bob woodward. he said he told you about speaking to me. but you never told me. why didn t you tell me? i would have been very happy to speak to him. all right. so what are you going to do? so i have another bad book coming out. it goes on. and you know, i what you can count on is that i ve been very careful. evelyn, are you on? yes. evelyn duffy, who s my assistant hello, evelyn. she transcribed all the tapes because with permission i taped people for hundreds of hours. good. and i think there s nothing in this book that doesn t come e from a firsthand source. is that correct, evelyn? but are you naming names or o do you just say sources? the names we re do you name sources? i mean, are you naming the people or just say, you know, people have said? i say at 2:00 on this day the following happened and everyone who s there including yourself is quoted. and i m sorry i didn t get to ge ask you about i mean, you do know i m doing a great job for the country. oh, yeah. i m sure he knows that. he s got tapes. that s what the trump white house really did not understand until today, if they understand it even now. and bob woodward played one of those tapes publicly today. that phone call with the president.ly to try to show the white house what he has. and then he told the president in that phone call, i taped people for hundreds of hours. and so now tonight donald trump knows that bob woodward taped members of the trump team for hundreds of hours. no one works harder at trying to find out what has happened inside the room in washington than bob woodward. and no one has more sources than bob woodward. when bob woodward was working on a book about the clinton white house called the agenda, he came to me because so much of the clinton white house agenda had to pass through the senate finance committee where i was the chief of staff. and i will never forget, bob woodward s first question to me, with no smalltalk, no beating around the bush, he wanted to know about what happened in a meeting with president clinton and congressional leaders in the cabinet room at the white house. and so his very first question to me was everyone in the cabinet room meeting says that you were taking notes, can i have your notes? if those days there were plenty of reporters who were trying tot get me to tell them what happened in the meetings in thee white house, in the senate et majority leader s office, in the speaker s office. but no one ever asked if he or she could have my notes. bob woodward always goes for the best possible sources and notes are always better than human memory. many years later, when i was no longer working in government, i visited bob woodward s home a few times, where much of the vi space is devoted to his office, where his assistants are constantly transcribing audio recordings.e he gave me a tour of the workshop, a place where you can see decades and decades of archived audio recordings, recordings that are the building blocks of the investigative journalism that has so often e become the defining version of a presidency, the woodward version. what bob woodward calls the best obtainable version of the truth. and so tonight bob woodward has tapes and the white house has press releases. the most damning quotes in the excerpts of bob woodward s book that were already released todaa from the president s former criminal defense lawyer john dowd.de bob woodward describes a rehearsal session with the president where john dowd pretended to be robert mueller asking the president questions. the washington post reports that in that rehearsal session donald trump s answers were stumbles, contradictions, and lies until the prevent eventually lost his cool. this thing s a god damn hoax trump erupted at the start of a 30-minute rant that finished with him saying i don t really want to testify. the book then describes a meeting john dowd with had he robert mueller and mueller s deputy james quarles in which dowd explained why he didn t n want the president to testify. i m not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot and you public that transcript because everything leaks in washington and the guys overseas are going to say, i told you he was an idiot, i told you he was a goddamn dumbbell.go what are we dealing with this idiot for? after that meeting with robert mueller john dowd gave the president the following advice. don t testify. it s either that or an orange jumpsuit. the president then said, i ll be a real good witness. you are not a good witness, dowd replied. mr. president, i m afraid i just can t help you. and the next morning john dowd quit and he left an opening on trump s defense team that has since been filled by rudy giuliani.inum leading off our discussion now, john heilemann, national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc. he s also co-host and executiveb producer of showtime s the circus. an tim o brien s with us, executive editor of bloomberg opinion. he s the author of trump nation, a book about donald trump. and msnbc contributor. and david frum, a senior editor for the atlantic is the author of trumpocracy. john heilemann, you ve done this kind of work that bob woodward has done, you ve done it on then campaign trail, most famously and most widely read, game change and other books. your assessment of how this battle is going so far as we come to the end of day one of the trump white house versus bob woodward. well, about how you would p have expected it to go, which is to say very well for bob woodward and very poorly for the white house.or the white house has had has been lucky in some sense in its enemies, although everything that we ve read so far from the woodward book, at least the excerpts and the reporting on it is very consistent with what we saw in michael wolff s book. it is the reality that whatever you think of fire and fury michael wolff is a more easily attacked messenger than bob e kn woodward. again, without even being mean to michael wolff although there are issues with michael wolff. bob woodward is the gold standard. right? and i think there is and bob woodward has been in this crossfire before. many times before. and look, he s got again, you said i m familiar with it. i am. there s a really very high premium. if you re going to do a book on deep background where you re going to say i m going to quotem verbatim from meetings, from notes, from people s recollections, the pressure it puts on the reporter is that you are never going to be able to do what donald trump is trying to play the game with bob woodward about. who told you that? woodward has said with these people he will never say i got this directly from jim mattis, from john kelly. the likelihood is he spoke to all of them. but he will never come out the reality is in many of these situations he s going to have that same quote knowing how bob works, he s going to have it from the speaker, from the person who heard, it from the people that other people in the room, other people they told about it. and memorialized perhaps in e-mails and notes of the conversation. he s never going to say who the source is. but because of the fact that woodward s been doing this for so long and because so many of his books have withstood the at kind of criticism that come in all administrations of deep background books, because his books have held up so well to scrutiny for so long he s in a position of extraordinary power and although there are white house officials coming out saying i didn t use this word, i didn t use that word, what they re not doing is quibbling with the gist of the reporting and in many cases some of the e people who are quibbling with the specific words are proven liars in the past. again, bob woodward not a proven liar.if quite the opposite. here s the president s latest lob in the battle tonight. he s tweeted, the woodward book has already been refuted and t discredited by general secretary of defense james mattis and general chief of staff john kelly. their quotes were made up frauds, a con on the public. likewise other stories and quotes. woodward is a dem operative? notice timing? e? tim o brien, various white houses have accused at different times bob woodward of being of the opposite party whenever these books come out. it s interesting that trump even now cannot help himself but give free publicity that s going to boost sales to this very pu critical book just like he did to omarosa and just like he did to michael wolff because he personalizes all of these and i the midst of it he can t think strategically. and anybody who s covered trump knows that the full picture of what woodward is presenting is only consistent with all the l reporting that s been out there for the last 2 1/2 years since trump began running, it s 1 consistent with who donald trump has been since he was about 7 years old. he ran the trump organization this way. it was a bunch of people biting each other in the back, not loyal to him ultimately, and he ran roughshod over all of them.l he ran his political campaign when he ran for the presidency exactly the same way. you were in the midst of that, john. you know what that was about. and the picture that s created n here is amply solidified and backed up by lots of other reporting.di with the additional factor that now you have bob woodward and the woodward method, which is he triangulates with sources, he backs things up with documents. he has tapes.so it s a different order of magnitude from any kind of reporter that trump has ever dealt with before. in the same way that the mueller investigation is of a different order of magnitude on the legal side.er but let me just say on this for a second as you were a different kind of reporter than trump had ever dealt with before when he dealt with you, and he ended up in court with you because he was stunned that you were the one who he could not con on the question of how rich he was. so and you won the lawsuit against him ai and i had tapes. and you had tapes. of the depositions and so forth. but talk about trump, when he s up against something he doesn t understand because you experienced that with your own n book about trump and his business. well, the tricky thing here is he is constantly up against things he doesn t understand because he s impatient, he s ignorant, and he has no real sense that he s vulnerable to anything. he s been protected his whole life, first by wealth, then by celebrity, and now by the presidency. and he s never really suffered the consequences of his phenomenally bad decision-making. until he actually stares it in the face. it clicked with him a couple wc months ago that don jr. might ee un suddenly be vulnerable in the mueller investigation. in our case i don t think he ever thought the new york times or my publisher would he retain attorneys to back me up. he then never thought they would get him for two days, for two eight-hour depositions in which we put his own tax returns, his own bank records and business t records in front of him. and he was found on dozens of occasions to have lied. and that went into the record. and he essentially created a rosetta stone for understanding the kind of pathology and the world that trump exists in. so one of the reasons he gets into these situations is because of who he is. one of the reasons he survives them is because of who he is. and in that tape, that conversation with him and inof woodward, he s very blase about the fact that he s trying to lie his way out of never knowing l that bob woodward tried to interview him. there s no real fear in it. he s playing ping-pong. yeah. and david frum, that s one of the great things about the tape that bob woodward released today-s there s a tape of donald trump and everything about it is false. i mean, it s just quite obvious. and people should go online and listen to the whole thing. where he s telling a recurring lie throughout the whole thing, which is that no one told him about this interview request and then bob woodward presses him just on one, on lindsey graham. he goes oh, well, okay, lindsey graham told and it s kind of a look into the way trump operates with every lie he can k get away with he will try. it is a really important tape to listen to because what you also hear is as he is nailed on the lie by woodward, very elegantly and politely, the president becomes at the beginning he s relatively suave by his standards.an he becomes angrier and then ultimately incredibly self-pitying. meanwhile, he summons in kellyanne conway, who s caught in a lie too. and again nailed elegantly and politely. and she has a very different method. first she tries to brazen it out, then she throws other people under the bus. then she finally desperately changes the subject. the thing i find myself thinking about a lot as i review these first stories from the book, and of course we ll all want to read the finished product, i understand as i think about it the james mattises and the general kellys. they re staying to serve the country.ys and i understand why they have to they feel they need to protect their position. to me donald trump is what he is and bob woodward is of course the elegant and eminent figure that he is. i m puzzled by the gary cohns, the h.r. mcmasters, the rex tillersons, the people who obviously talked to woodward, who obviously have unburdened themselves of their sense of thb extreme not only unfitness but danger to the country by this president. are you going to do anything more than talk to a reporter months after the fact? why didn t you resign together? why didn t you on the day you left gary cohn, you are telling me that the president cannot remember that if you take a piece of paper off his desk that it was there, two hours later he then forgets the paper was ever there and he intended a catastrophically bad policy butd it was his policy and he can t remember it? why didn t you share that with a committee of congress at a time when it was relevant? s why now and why anonymously? i understand it s hazardous. but you know, a lot of americans have had over the centuries takn a lot of risks to defend the country. it s not so much to risk getting an angry negative tweet from this president compared to what other people have done in order to defend your country. and david, one other phenomenon we re seeing just in these excerpts, and you re right, we re going to have to see the whole book to analyze this.es but it does seem like that the people who are swimming away at from this titanic that is the trump white house or rowing away in their lifeboats, however you want to put it, are very eager to tell bob woodward extremely negative stuff about the president, which means it seems like they re very eager to try to claim a space in the sane world as fast as they can. reince priebus and as you say gary cohn and others who appear to be sources for this book. yeah. well, and i think many of them are obviously capable people and some of them probably morally fine people. i have a lot of respect for people like gary cohn and rex tillerson too. but own it. stand up. don t be anonymous. and don t wait. don t give it to bob woodward. we re glad to have it in any way it comes.ny but why not at the time? one of the questions presented by this book is should you serve this president? for people who are doing it for the right reasons and are in national security roles, i commend them and thank them for serving the president. t but if you are going to leave or if you re forced out, make your resignation count. do it in a group. do it on the same day. and then immediately spell out in detail why you re doing it. david frum, tim o brien, john heilemann, thank you for starting us off tonight. when we come back, the most revealing moment in the kavanaugh confirmation hearing today came when brett kavanaugh refused to shake the hand of a man 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( ) tonight the new york times is reporting that special prosecutor robert mueller will accept written answers from the president on questions related to whether his campaign colluded with russia to interfere with the 2016 election but not about obstruction of justice. it s still unclear whether mueller will continue to try to interview the president about obstruction of justice or subpoena the president to answer questions about that. according to bob woodward s new book fear the biggest problem for donald trump and his lawyers has always been donald trump. donald trump gets the last line of the book, and it is in the description by the president s former defense lawyer, john dowd. trump had one overriding problem that dowd knew but couldn t bring himself to say to the president. you re a f-ing liar. joining our discussion now, harry litman, former u.s. attorney and deputy attorney general under president clinton and maya wiley who served as counsel to new york city mayor bill de blasio. she s an msnbc legal analyst. and maya, in the woodward book we re seeing that john dowd is calling the president a liar and the new york times reporting that robert mueller has partially given up on the idea of ever getting an interview with donald trump and is interested in possibly getting written answers at least on the collusion questions. yeah, i think it s pretty clear that donald trump can t tell the truth on a regular basis. we know that. that s clearly something he has demonstrated in public. so it s not so surprising that someone like a john dowd, who i think has denied, it may have said something like that. i think at the end of the day the issue here is donald trump can be forced to testify. i think the supreme court would uphold that unless brett kavanaugh is a supreme court justice potentially sitting on that bench. but the question for mueller is how to wrap this up. he probably wants to do that because of the election, and this is an opportunity to do that. harry litman, the written questions is a very unusual step in a criminal investigation. i m not familiar with a case where that s happened before. but it is exactly what happens in civil litigation. i think a lot of people out there are thinking, well, it will be a lot easier for the president to answer written questions under oath. not necessarily, as people discover in civil lawsuits, when they re given written questions called interrogatories and they have to answer those under oath. it can be as difficult and challenging even trying to do the written version. it can be difficult and challenging. for a guy like trump it s not as difficult and challenging. it can be sculpted by the lawyers and carefully put together. but you know, the number one rule with mueller is he knows 50 times what we know and we re not aware of. so i think if he s saying this and making this kind of concession it s not because as the times sort of quotes or suggests that team trump feels that he s been worn down but rather that he feels, as maya says, he may not need the evidence. i think he s playing with a strong hand, not a weak hand. and maya, the idea of separating out the russia collusion investigation from the obstruction of justice investigation, you can see how that can make a certain sense for the prosecutor. they are two different things. there can be intersections with them. but the president s behavior, when he s firing james comey and when he s explaining that to lester holt, that all kind of stands alone within the walls of the white house. i think that s right. you have a clear public record when it comes to trump on obstruction of justice. it makes a lot of sense that mueller would say that s not the one i have to ask you a lot about. what he really wants to know is not what donald trump knows but what donald trump is going to say in response to specific documents and questions. that s really the primary any prosecutor wants to be prepared. right? they want to know everything that they he knows. he knows what he needs to know. what he doesn t know is what s donald trump going to say if i ask him this? harry, what do you think the trump lawyers advice will be? do you think they ll advise the president not to even answer the written questions? look, i think this is one more sort of we only have their characterization of the letter. we don t really know the full flavor of it. it would be to his advantage to answer written questions. not on obstruction, of course, where mueller s going to want to know what was his state of mind. if that s really the offer, i think they take it. my sense is we re going to learn a little more about this in the next 24, 48 hours. maya wiley and harry litman, thank you for joining us tonight. and coming up, a big upset win in massachusetts. tonight a come-from-behind victory by ayanna pressley. massachusetts will now have its first african-american member of the house of representatives. and we have more from bob woodward s book. some of the extraordinary material about how the president s staff and cabinet are working around the president, hiding information from him, and how the defense secretary says he is trying to prevent world war 3. 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he saw those numbers out of summerville and said it s not going to get any better for me in boston, another parts of this district. you see pressley running away with it. just in terms of the history, what this means, we talked about this last hour, but the lineage of this seat, kennedy, tip o neill, another kennedy, capuano, and now the first african-american female who will ever represent massachusetts in congress. and steve, even on her the night she won here in new york, alexandria ocasio-cortez actually mentioned ayanna pressley as one of the other candidates around the country who she was rooting for, she was supporting. they are very much very similar kinds of candidates taking over similar kinds of districts that had changed demographically while a long-time serving member of the house enjoyed a rather easy incumbency. yeah. two women of color who had defeated long-serving white males in districts that have become majority non-white. but i also have to say quickly when you look at this, when you look at how pressley s doing there in summerville i ve got to say this is a lot of this is not just people of color voting for ayanna pressley. i think there are a lot of white voters in this district too who looked at her and said you know, what maybe it s time, let s go with her. absolutely. and i know a lot of those white voters. she s a very popular politician in boston. steve kornacki, thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it. coming up next, what could have been i think the most important moment today in brett kavanaugh s confirmation hearing. it was the moment he refused to shake the hand of a man whose daughter was killed in the mass murder at her high school in parkland, florida. that man, fred guttenberg, will join us. s. after walking six miles at an amusement park, bill s back needed a vacation from his vacation. so he stepped on the dr. scholl s kiosk. it recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain so you can move more. dr. scholl s. born to move. 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assassinate syrian dictator bashar al assad in a phone call to secretary mattis. let s go in. mattis told the president that he would get right on it. but after hanging up the phone he told a senior aide, we re not going to do any of that. we re going to be much more measured. back with us, tim o brien and john heilemann. and john, that picture of the secretary of defense getting basically a assassinate, kill any way you want to assad and maybe that means go to war, kill all of them, what does that mean? does that mean an invasion? who knows what it means because the secretary basically ignored it according to woodward. i think there are two separate questions there. one question is what did trump mean by it? and the answer is i m sure trump had no idea what he meant by it and it was the typical trump gibberish coming out of his mouth. sought defense secretary did what we have all been hoping and praying people in these positions have been doing. woodward apparently describes it in someplace here in the book because it s been quoted in washington post and other places as an administrative coup d etat. that puts a negative spin on it. others would say guardrails for humanity. guardrails of the safety of the planet. is that some of these people like jim mattis are in this job precisely to do this very thing, which is to stop the president from doing things that are rash, ill-considered, obviously dangerous, right? you see it throughout in this reporting, that that seems to be the case. they all the stuff that s most unnerving in this book beyond the thing we were discussing earlier in the show, the complicity and cowardice of the people around trump, the enabling behavior, beyond that the most disturbing stuff in the book is on foreign policy because all of these people look at him and say you re a dim witt, you re a child and you re dangerous and we have to save you from yourself. and then there are the personal grudges, tim, that the president doesn t want facts to get in the way of his personal grudges. bob woodward s book reports the scene where the president is describing john mccain s experience as a p.o.w. in vietnam and says the opposite, the exact opposite of what everybody knows. he says that john mccain was released early by the north vietnamese because mccain s father was such a high-ranking u.s. navy admiral. and then the book quotes james mattis as immediately correcting trump and saying, no, mr. president, i think you ve got it reversed. and the defense secretary then explained that mccain, who died on august 25th, had in fact turned down early release and was brutally tortured during his fine years at the hanoi hilton. to which trump says, oh, okay. so tim, it seems that trump had been getting away with that lie around any other circle in the white house until jim mattis is sitting there and has to correct him because truly that isn t the first time trump tried that. and remember, this is the donald trump who successfully got five draft deferments sew didn t have to serve in the vietnam war. donald trump, who refused to fly the flag at half mast over the white house after mccain passed away. he s the guy who holds on to these grudges for a very long time. you know, david frum touched on this earlier and john touched on it, is why does anyone serve in this white house? and i think the short answer for the most part is because they re craven. people are either getting their resumes stamped or they re trying to get ahead in the world. mattis is the one person you can point to i think, though, very clearly as seeing himself as a buffer between trump and the abyss. and you see it in this north korea anecdote because the most dangerous thing about donald trump is as he s learning on the job and he s learning how to be president on the job what he s going to naturally gravitate towards are the areas in which he can act unilaterally. everything that requires him to reach out to capitol hill or rely on a team, things like overturning obamacare or passing any kind of sophisticated legislation, he s going to fumble. the things where he can just write an order or issue a command is inevitably going to attract him. and that s where it gets very scary on issues like assassinating assad or bombing north korea. and why having people of conscience and courage and a spine like mattis in that white house does really matter. but he s an exception to the rule in that white house. just go back, quickly go back to the mccain thing. because it s not just that he holds on to grudges. it s that he holds on to crazy conspiracy theories. and you know that where he got this was on twitter or from the weekly world news or wherever else he gets his information. he s been believing for a long time precisely the opposite of the truth. and i m sure after mattis corrected him in that meeting trump went on to repeat that story that oh, okay was not oh, oh, my god, i ve been wrong this whole time? oh, god. how do i fix this misapprehension? what it was was oh, whatever. and then he went back to believing what i m sure he still to this day believes which is that mccain was a traitor, that he got out early that he s not a war hero. that he was a manchurian candidate. all the crazy stuff that lives in the right-wing fever swamps of social media where trump gets most of his information about things are still i m sure firmly implanted in that frontal lobe of his, whatever that and tim, nowhere does donald trump have stronger support than in alabama, but alabamans don t seem to realize what donald trump thinks of them. the woodward back has donald trump referring to jeff sessions this way. this guy is mentally retarded. he s this dumb southerner. he couldn t even be a one-person country lawyer down in alabama. and so clearly and we had the report last week of donald trump making fun of jeff sessions and his accent, and his southern accent. and so clearly if trump supporters in alabama understood donald trump s real attitude toward them, there might abe different support level down there. i think that s the wild card about the woodward book is what real world impact is it going to have. you saw in the kavanaugh hearings that the gop is not going to let go of donald trump until they have some goods in the bag. tim o brien and john heilemann, thank you for joining us tonight. when we come back, what i thought was the most stunning and revealing moment in today s confirmation hearing. it was something brett kavanaugh refused to do. that s becausee in your body silently for years, even decades, without symptoms and it s not tested for in routine blood work. if left untreated, hep c can cause liver damage, even liver cancer. but there s important information for us: the cdc recommends all baby boomers get tested for hep c. all it takes is a simple one-time blood test. and if you have hep c, it can be cured. ask your healthcare provider for the simple blood test. for us it s time to get tested. it s the only way to know for sure. this wi-fi is fast. i know! i know! i know! i know! when did brian move back in? brian s back? he doesn t get my room. he s only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40 s. there will always be an asterisk after your name. appointed by a president named as an unindicted coconspirator after the vast majority of documents relating to the most instructive period of his life were concealed. is so a supreme court confirmation hearing unlike any other began today in the senate judiciary committee. federal appeals court judge brett kavanaugh is the first person to be nominated for the united states supreme court by an unindicted coconspirator in a current federal criminal case. if you ve been following the kavanaugh confirmation process closely, you probably learned nothing that you didn t already know about brett kavanaugh in today s hearing except this. the two men facing each other there are both proud and loving fathers. one of them has two children. the other used to have two children. now he has one. his 14-year-old daughter jamie was one of the 17 people killed in the mass murder at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. fred guttenberg explained what you re seeing in that photograph this way. just walked up to judge kavanaugh as morning session ended, put out my hand to introduce myself as jamie guttenberg s dad. he pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. i guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence. here is the video of that moment, and you will see fred guttenberg is the first person to speak to brett kavanaugh when he gets out of the witness chair. four . the photograph of brett kavanaugh turning his back on fred guttenberg went viral almost immediately and by the time brett kavanaugh made his opening remarks, the white house was already issuing statements defending brett kavanaugh turning his back on fred guttenberg. so i had high hopes for brett kavanaugh. high hopes that he would find fred guttenberg in the audience and just shake hands with him, say something sympathetic to a grieving father in his opening remarks, perhaps, but he didn t. he could easily have just added a sentence or two. that s the most it would take to his opening remarks. he didn t say a word about fred guttenberg or fred s daughter jamie, but he did talk about some other girls, girls with very bright futures. for the past seven years, i ve coached my daughters basketball teams. i love coaching. all the girls i ve coached are awesome. and special congratulations to the girls on this year s sixth grade cyo championship team, anna, quinn, kelsi, shawnee, chloe, alex, ava, sofia and margaret. i love helping the girls grow into confident players. i know that confidence on the basketball court translates into confidence in other aspects of life. i love everything about that. i love that he loves coaching his daughters team and i love that he gave a shout out to them and the other sixth graders on the team. i love everything he said there and i believe he means every single word of that. i know that confidence on the basketball court translates into confidence in other aspects of life. not if you don t get to have a life. not if a mass murderer walks into your school when you re 14 years old and takes your life away, and that s what happened to jamie guttenberg, and now her dad goes everywhere he can and reaches his hand out to everyone he can to try to bring sanity to america s gun laws. he did it to me at a big crowded event in washington. fred guttenberg approached me the same way he approached brett kavanaugh today with that outstretched hand and said, i am fred guttenberg, i m the father of jamie guttenberg who was murdered at parkland, and those words, those words froze me in place, listening to every word that he had to say. marveling that he could compose himself and smile through that unimaginable burden of grief. and today fred guttenberg tried that same approach with the nominee for the supreme court of the united states and the nominee turned his back on him and then when given a chance to apologize, to clarify, it didn t seem to even cross his mind. so even though brett kavanaugh took no questions today from the senators, we learned more about him in his response to fred guttenberg than we will probably learn about brett kavanaugh in the rest of the hearings. and joining us now, fred guttenberg. lawrence, you just gave me my first legitimate laugh of the day. i remember exactly what you re talking about at the march for our lives on march 24th. i remember walking up to you and those exact words that you described are exactly what i said today to judge kavanaugh. when i got to the part about my daughter jamie was one of the kids murdered in parkland was when you see him turn around and move the other way. and, fred, just as a as a human experience, i just have to tell you that when when i heard those words from you, it was like it was just like a cementing in place. it was like the world i forgot the world around me. there was nothing else to do except take in what you had to say. i would assume that most of the time with most people in washington who you approach, who you try to talk to about this, when you identify yourself that way, that they they must respond to you, don t they, most of them? you know what, lawrence? they do. and i don t make an effort just to go up to people who i think believe in gun safety. as you said in your open, guy up to everyone. i want to talk to everyone about this because if you agree with me then we work together. if you don t agree with me, i hope to change your mind or at least find a place where we can agree because it s in everyone s public safety if that happens. justice kavanaugh judge kavanaugh does not agree with my positions. as a dad i watched him introduce his kids. he has a beautiful family. he seems like an amazing dad, and i m sure he s a wonderful man. i ve never really met him other than the effort to shake his hand, but i know by his public statements, i know by his rulings that i have reason for concern. i ll give you an example. we passed gun safety in florida. it s passing in other states around the country. everywhere we pass safety, the nra files a lawsuit. the nra is right now spending a lot of money to get him selected and what will eventually happen is one of these lawsuits, maybe it will be florida, will end up in front of him and he will have to judge it. i am concerned that something like raising the age to 21, which we ve done in florida, red flag laws, which we ve done in florida, eliminating bump stocks, which we ve done in florida. before we get to all the more serious stuff, he would rule unconstitutional. i hope to speak to him as a father and look him in the eye and tell him, those few things would have saved my daughter. not the bump stocks, but raising the age to 21 and red flag laws. and, fred, was it was it clear to you that he could hear what you were saying to him? oh, listen, i have no doubt i know my voice. i m certain he heard my words and i m certain when he heard me say my daughter jamie was murdered in parkland, that s when he turned. fred, i ve been in that hearing room many, many, many times and i can absolutely back you up that anything said from that distance in that situation is easily audible in a situation like that and i ve seen many people engage in conversations in those circumstances many, many times. so i m sorry that it turned out the way it did for you today and i really appreciate you joining us here tonight, fred. really, thank you very much. fred guttenberg. thank you for having me, lawrence. thank you. fred guttenberg gets tonight s last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. tonight, the explosive allegations from bob woodward s new book, describing the white
and world heritage to viking settlements in northern germany. we kick off today show in the british capital many tourists come to london wanting to see all the main attractions like buckingham palace tile bridge and the houses of parliament but there s a whole other side to london that s usually just known to the locals today we want to help you get to know a mo personal side of the city so here is a real london are showing us what he thinks are the best bits of the capital. london vibrant metropolis. region s canal arches its way north of central london but it s surprising a tranquil canal runs almost parallel to the river thames. london author bill nash is interested in the more secluded parts of his hometown. in the past ten years. and in particular since the london olympics a lot of the canals around london of being revitalized cleaned up. life is being reintroduced and that s a lot of people living on house boats nash describes the lesser known aspects of the city in his book secret london. now day trip as cruise along regent s canal from little venice to camden. but there are plans to use the canal for transporting freight house in the past. along the banks people can shop for books on a house but all visit the house the venue strange and. one of the rooms is devoted to the patterns of the seats of telstra in the london underground. so the gallery is based in king s cross london which has undergone this amazing transformation over the past few years and it s now a really exciting area full of schools galleries and really interesting. to the south it s soho once the horns of many artists and filmmakers. today so who is mainly heading into theatres and flubs. even so notion it was a few hidden spots. secret t.v. remains about the past. it s time for that typical british treat. skull served with jam. i m not. really moist to drink tea from china you know from rather than from sort of paper or plastic roll or whatever but this is not like a proper a proper cup of tea and rolf going to get a mug to. come than half a gin and provides an alternative to shopping in the major department stores. small shops off items like plenty of clothes and silver. much of the business is done through mail order. of americans. who s try anything but all rely cheat. camden s magic circle museum it s not far from the busy euston station another location. just keeps the secrets of all the magicians in the u.k. . this performing arts has a british tradition on display people. talking. holes. even the royal family interesting. trolls wrote the magic circle to ask if he could become a member. they wrote back to him said yes he may bring it to pass the test person exam so we know she s from try she came down and performed the couple s trick which you know the cups on the ball the balls and the cups and passed and is now an ordinary member of the magic circle now she lives in brixton district in south london. and looking after you was the british capital s first market street to be linked with electricity many people in brixton descended from african and caribbean immigrants. you know. there s a lot of work being done here and it s sort of like we generate lively even if it s the day i don t feel discomfort at work and home late. live me a violin it s not the richest but it s. what it is the most. friendly is a metropolitan. it s a victorian convent cannot come while. lunch is a special fund of the functions and it dates back to eighteen nineteen. and this program is one of the few in london where they still have snugs and there s three of them and back. they could come in here with anyone you liked and just close the door behind you thanks the place to round off an evening in one of europe s. capitals. now in many languages the name casanova is part of common everyday speech often synonymous with womanizer the man responsible for it giacomo casanova was in the talon philosophy and writer from venice his autobiography is considered one of the most authentic sources of the customs and norms of european social life during the eighteenth century a museum in venice gives visitors a closer look at the story behind the name. a trip back in time to a more lavish era many say the city of lovers on the adriatic is the most beautiful in the world but not everyone knows that venice is also the birthplace of one of the most famous lovers of all time jack of all casanova. he was born in this alley in seven hundred twenty five. a small marble plaque commemorates one of the city s most colorful sons. and this employees think a lot of tourists take selfies in front of the plaque get progress they say that s why i think venice should have more crossing over than this because people are curious about him and want to know more on the borders it doesn t want that i guess that the subeditor the north. pole not so papa found in a come out at geo district this is where the businessman found a space for the cousin over museum which he financed himself. six rooms allow visitors to explore who casanova really was more than just an eighteenth century playboy. goes on all the more normal casanova was much more a great writer a philosopher and musician alchemy list and even a spy his thoughts when i read a spear a. multimedia technologies introduced the famous figure beginning with his youth in venice and continuing up to his death in seven hundred ninety eight cousin nova was a free spirit and an adventure his restlessness pushed him to travel throughout europe where he met important people of his day like french philosopher and russian empress catherine the great. casanova s twelve volume memoir provides plenty of interesting insights into eighteenth century life but the venetian is mostly famous for his a rhotic escapades. they ve inspired countless films and helped turn casanova into a legend. a smartphone app who guides visitors outside the museum in the footsteps of the famous lover. casanova s mother was an actress this small porch is where he grew up in his grandmother s house later he said to have lived with his father by the grand canal in the pots of money piano. next the out brings visitors to the piazza san marco to the famous cafe florian this is where venetian high society met during casanova s lifetime. we have ended up in space so the rocket that overcame her often especially during the carnival was the sudden he sat in one of our reigns and flirted with women like her but he was one of venice s great characters and a highly refined man. on a fertility drug. but casanova also had enemies in seven hundred fifty five he was arrested by the inquisition and thrown into a dungeon. here in the doge s palace in a small cell with a lead roof the master of seduction was imprisoned for a year before managing to escape. he would later write a book about his flight over the rooftops it became a european bestseller and brought him plenty of adulation. so long. now he has stayed here across this canal. the story of his flight definitely helped cassanova make himself more interesting to many european aristocrats at the time. of course you shouldn t take everything in casanova s memoirs at face value but the hunt for clues is exciting and good. scans of the world s greatest lover a chance to discover a different side of venice. we re going on another hunt for historical clues now near the german danish border you can get an accurate picture of how the vikings lived over one thousand years ago at the head of blue settlement and the donna vocal fortress back in the eight to eleven century these sites were at the center of the trade networks between northern and western europe today seven viking houses and the landing bridge invite visits is to experience what life was like back then. viking s life was not for the fainthearted the men hunted for food with bows and arrows. hand-made clothes and cloth kept them warm during the cold winters. by kings built wooden ships with the simplest of to. the viking settlement of haint who once numbered among the foremost trading centers in northern europe. died sure visitors how the vikings went about their daily lives over a thousand years ago tough. it was a life in and with nature but had an incredibly sharp power of observation they were very well acquainted with the materials around them and knew how to use them to their advantage to build housing ships and wagons and make rope. they made a great many things that we could hardly even imagine today the ruined their fortune current. page of who lives in. northern germany. seven facts two roof wooden houses have been faithfully reconstructed. the settlement was built at the end of the shoreline an inlet on the baltic sea. it was a strategic location for trading precious metals weapons and pelt today it s a treasure trove of jests. behind me the eyes here of a viking age settlement in the ninth tenth and eleventh centuries well the first glance it doesn t look like much because it s just a green meadow but it s usually in archaeology the real treasures lie underground and here behind us there isn t a square centimeter that doesn t contain archaeological finds. and we always say hey that was archaeologically contaminated. in the nearby viking museum visitors can inspect many of the original artifacts. it s one of chalets because china s most popular museum is over one hundred thousand people come and usually in search of the real vikings. the museum shows the vikings highly developed from the sun still the smiths are not for example all the pill jewelry things that often surprise visit is. a fortune for the profession pretty unlike the classic image of the vikings as warriors what i find after such an intense examination here is that above all they were internationally trading europeans even somewhat cosmopolitan. many of the have to. be in the hands craft with very highly developed and that indicates they were not just warring is definitely a culture i d say are. the done of a canny hate abou is another significant archeological site from the viking age. it consists of earthworks walls and trenches which in some thirty kilometers. the fortifications date back some one thousand years they can best be explored by bicycle. and the down a vehicle was built to protect the just land and inside against invading. the donovan was the longest lasting border of the middle ages and the best preserved in its various phases as we see here the best waldemar zwolle for example was a very innovative construction for the time. they had already gone to build with bricks in the twelfth century with. the site gives us a unique insight into how the vikings lived. the archaean. finds indicate this was once home to a global trading palace. here in haiti but we found mercury holes that came from western afghanistan. we also found us of bronze and were sprouted from the white sea area last seen it. comes in so as a trading hate it was something like the major ports of hamburg in rotterdam out today. and they encountered some place where all kinds of ways and trading routes came together and dispersed again. we had. paid to build proofs that the vikings were not just. strangers and people who lived in harmony with nature. for our next report my colleague meghan leap paid a visit to spain s and maybe even the world s oldest restaurant it doesn t go back all the way to viking times but is almost three hundred years old the sobrino they were teen in madrid opened in seven hundred twenty five now tastes changed a lot since then so how could a restaurant survive for so many years meghan went in search of the secret recipe. madrid s famous class of my or square is almost four hundred years old for witness to bull fights and trials during the spanish inquisition now though it serves as a popular gathering place many of the corridors and cobblestone streets also date back centuries there hidden gems lurking around every corner but only one holds a very special title. so here we are at the oldest restaurant in the world do you know team that means the nephew of protein and spanish one of the teams were the original owners of this establishment words at first wasn t in it was a french couple who started it so let s go inside and see what we discover. the gonzalez family took over the restaurant in the one nine hundred thirty s. now in its third generation antonio gonzales is the managing director family tradition here is keep the decor of the restaurant reflects both the present owners personal touch as well as the original style. in one thousand nine hundred eighty six the guinness book of world records designated oldest restaurant in the world for very specific reasons is that you must be given the same name. working at the same. work since the beginning we are completely. the restaurant opens daily at one pm but before that the staff are busy making all the preparations for the lunch crowds protein is famous for its traditional spanish dishes. and the rare whatever. so tell me about the specialty of this house. specialty of the house chuckling. which in your very traditional dish when we prepare it in this oven. this is a very special welcome because it dates back to the seventeen twenty five it s an original we all are growing and that s all. some of the most of the sort of. one floor below the kitchen antonio tells me that this dining room is even older than the restaurant dating back to fifteen eighty it leads down to a cave which boasts a long history the one you hear is for display only since the room produces too much more sure. maybe some of the arguing time center for the first breach and some to drink old buildings and the. structure of the back up stairs in time for lunch traditional roast second pig is of course on the menu served by long time meter deep have your sanchez after forty years approaching he s also become a permanent fixture here he tells me one suckling pig can serve up to five people. one particular guest used to eat here quite regularly and that is the american writer ernest hemingway in fact he liked this restaurant so much that he wrote about it in this book the sun also rises and also one of the other books death in the afternoon and tony what do you know about hemingway s time here he was very familiar to us he phoned up home here and both being human he tried to buy one was . not good with results then my grandfather told him and i still keep on writing code that by myself. so in this spirit i guess it s time to raise our glasses and say salute and to the next few hundred years of business and. summer. now we re venturing up to the mall blanks the white mountain some call it the highest peak in europe although that s subject to some debate she s a higher peaks in russia and georgia what s certain is that it proudly stands at four thousand eight hundred ten meters in the alpine region between france and italy we traveled that to learn more about the mountains history. long long the highest mountain. it stood here since the beginning of time located in charmingly france it is a premier winter destination for tourists all over the world. spending that has lived in charmine for thirty years as official guy she understands very well what draws tourists to this region. the whole valley shines with these mountains the mountains together with blanc are amazing that s the attraction here . but once upon a time people thought the mountains were full of ghosts and dragons and so on and. everyone was afraid of what was up there. it was said sherman he was located in the bad mountains then in the middle of the eighteenth century to englishman came from geneva he had heard all this talk about chamonix and decided to see the erie valley for themselves. so this is the high and. the first actual mount pioneers were crystal hunters who extracted courts from the mountains of shawnee it was then shipped off to geneva even made its way to the halls of versailles harmony s crystal museum visitors can get an idea of the minerals extracted from long and its neighboring peaks. that imagine sherman he was a very small simple village people had a simple life and were poorhouse before that and then they found out without having to climb too high up the mountain that with these rockers tools they could possibly sell them in geneva and make some money and then have a better life. and. that pioneering spirit has certainly paid off for sure many tourists now flock to the village to travel with the cable car to reach a height of thirty eight hundred meters above sea level. even with the most modern technology and safety measures in play. the ride is not for the faint of heart. but once at the top the mystique of month long becomes very clear during visitors can dangle over the mountains in a glass box and on a sunny day you can see for miles into the distance. skiing at this altitude without parched and puts the body to the test. a moment it is very beautiful because of the high altitude it is quite difficult to breathe up here. but this altitude allows visitors to see all the major peaks including the matter horn and the distance. tourism in charm and he has come a long way over the last two hundred fifty years it is now one of the most exclusive winter destinations in europe initially though tourists first started coming here not for a moment last but for a seven and a half a kilometer long glacier known as the man to the last reachable by train. its europe s third biggest glacier located on the northern side of. long can also be enjoyed in the sweet form here the cafe you go home visitors can delight in and the rate of french pastries but the best selling ones represent the famous mountain. has owned this cafe for thirty years or chocolates are award winning. however that is so here we have in the last cake i m going to take one and we can discover it together by the who have also made it. what were. the cake it consists of layers of chocolate mousse rum flavoring and lots of chantilly cream and if that s not enough there s another version that is just as decadent. back outside the atmosphere in germany is relaxed as another day comes to an end over a month long. well i hope you enjoyed the highlights of the week the find all this week s shows reports much more on our website dot com slash lifestyle i ll see you november of often are. more. functioning and invisible enemy land mines in bosnia. mine clearance risk their lives for moving mines left over from the yugoslav homes. their work is on choice. and extremely dangerous and. the mind clear is the most new. thirty minutes on t.w. . where the real trial it resides. i come from there lots of people in fact more than a billion if you could was not just democracy give me that s one reason i m passionate about people and aspirations and they can sense. the finishing the book is fried chicken violence after the fourth of the fun in born and i remember thinking at the 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exclusive. and why it s clear biden is on president trump s radar.oot > the gbal headline e revealed developing tonight.auoritieieve most wanted man has delivered a new message. the mother who demanded school surveillance and got it. and this is what it showed. the teacher kicking her daughter. and tonight, we celebrate a trail-blazing director who died today at just 51. jon singleton was surrounded by loved ones. and what his family revealed about his condition. good evening. and it s great to start another week with all of you at home. and we begin tonight with that alleged terror plot being planned right here in the u.s. federal prosecutors late today revealing a u.s. military veteran was allegedly planning mass casualty attacks on a variety of targets, using a modified ak-47 and, in some cases, an ied, an improvised explosive device. among the alleged targets, the popular santa monica pier and the port of long beach. they arrested him in california after he scoped out an alleged part by the deadly attack on muslims in new zealand. abc s will carr leading us off. reporter: tonight, this army veteran, who fought against terror in afghanistan, is accused of trying to wage jihad in the united states. this is a case in which law enforcement was able to identify a man consumed with hate and bent on mass murder. and stop him before he could carry out his attack. reporter: authorities say mark steven domingo wanted to detonate an ied at a packed white nationalist rally in long beach over the weekend. he was taken into custody after he took receipt of what he thought were pressure cooker bombs. reporter: those turned out to be inert devices passed along by federal law enforcement as they tracked domingo s every move. he allegedly purchased several hundred three-inch long nails to be used in ieds as shrapnel, specifically because the nails were long enough to penetrate the human body and puncture internal organs. reporter: federal authorities say domingo was radicalized rapidly. following the attack at two mosques in new zealand last month, he wrote, quote, there must be retribution. reporter: authorities say domingo also wanted to target jews, churches, police officers and the popular santa monica pier. even pull off a drive-by with an ak-47-style rifle. sometimes we get asked what keeps you up at night this is a case that keeps us up at night. reporter: but before he could pull off any attack, the joint terror task force arrested domingo friday. with that in mind, are you considering him to be a lone wolf at this point? yeah, we believe we caught him very, very early when he started to talk the attack. will carr at that press conference late today. he joins us now. and will, they say the suspect expressed support for isis? reporter: that s right, david. they believe that he was acting alone, but wanted to target places that were packed with people, including the santa monica pier behind me. they also say he talked about past attacks, including the boston bombing, and said there should be another mass shooting like las vegas. david? will carr, thank you. we are also learning more at this hour about the deadly synagogue attack near san diego. the fbi actually received a tip five minutes before the attack. tonight, the parents of the suspect breaking their silence now. the 19-year-old gunman opening fire during passover services. his parents saying their son is, quote, now part of the history of evil. he was a straight-a student who played the piano. so, what happened? abc s chief national correspondent matt gutman on the scene tonight. reporter: tonight, just five minutes before that deadly chaos erupted at the synagogue, the fbi got anonymous tips about the gunman s threatening social media post. but there wasn t enough time. getting another caller who stated there s a shooting at the synagogue then disconnected. reporter: 19-year-old nursing student john earnest allegedly opening fire during sabbath services. 60-year-old lori gilbert-kaye his first victim. rabbi yisroel goldstein shot in both hands. i think she took the bullet for the whole congregation. reporter: oscar stewart heard those shots and, even though he was unarmed, sprinted towards the sound. i didn t think about what i was doing. instinctively, i just ran towards him. i yelled, i m going to kill you. reporter: stewart, an iraq war veteran, apparently startling the gunman, chasing him out of the synagogue. i got to his car, he gets in his car, he raises his weapon and i took, with all my force, i hit the side of the car with all my might. he drops the weapon again and he gets the ignition, he turns the ignition on the car. reporter: earnest speeding away, but caught one mile later. tonight, earnest charged with one count of murder for the shooting at the synagogue and a hate crime for torching a mosque last month. and now, those questions. how a 19-year-old classically trained pianist, a straight-a student, became aradicalized, allegedly posting a hate-fueled public message saying he wanted to kill jews. his distraught parents releasing a statement, saying, how our was attracted to such darkness is a terrifying mystery to us. this evening, lines of mourners standing in the rain to bid a final good to lori gilbert-kaye. that woman is so benif lent, such a kind, jen ris fill land poe pis. she s one of those people, you call at 2:00 in the morning, she ll be there. and matt gutman joins us outside the synagogue tonight. we re now hearing about the rush to save that woman that was shot and killed. several people were performing cpr on her, including her husband, who then realized it was his wife? reporter: yeah, her husband, david, is a physician, and he instinctively jumped into action, helping the woman lying prone on the synagogue lobby floor and only after doing those chest compressions and realized it was hopeless, he went to feel her pulse, recognized his wife s face and fainted. but today, he says he hopes will be a celebration of her life. david? matt gutman, thank you. there is a breaking headline out of hawaii at this hour. alarming images coming in now after a deadly helicopter crash right into a neighborhood. it was a tour helicopter that went down in a neighborhood outside honolulu. there were no survivors onboard. and here s abc s clayton sandell. reporter: the helicopter crashing in a ball of flames. landed on house, my neighbor s house. reporter: on a residential street on the island of oahu around 9:00 a.m. rescue one, rescue two. downed helicopter. this is referred to be the kawainui marsh here kaha street. reporter: all three onboard were killed. debris coming down near a school and slamming into this car the driver was okay. neighbors did heroic job trying to put out fire and get patients away from burning aircraft. reporter: the chopper, identified as a robinson r-44, is registered to a tour company called novictor helicopters. the company tonight said it had no comment. according to the ntsb, r-44 helicopters have been involved in 48 fatal crashes since 2006. tonight, a hawaii state lawmaker is calling on all tourhelicopte. paramedie already in the area on another call and were just 30 feet away when that chopper came down. tonight, both the faa and the ntsb are investigating. david? clayton sandell, thank you. we re going to turn now to the race for 2020, and former vice president joe biden holding the first rally of his presidential campaign. it was in pittsburgh just a short time ago, telling a cheering crowd, if he s going to beat donald trump, quote, it s going to happen there, in pennsylvania. biden and his wife, jill, sitting down for an exclusive interview with robin roberts. tonight, robin asks about the case biden be try to make to trump voters, and proof biden is on president trump s radar. what the president did today. abc s mary bruce is in toda vurgh.gh to see joe biden back on his home turf. if i m going tumo bp in 2020 going to happen here. it s going to happen here in western pennsylvania. reporter: this is biden country. but it s trump country, too, and in an exclusive interview, biden told our robin roberts, he s the democrat who can woo back those working class trump voters. what would you say to the trump voter, the trump supporter, who looks at the economy and sees very strong numbers here in pennsylvania, where the unemployment is at a record low of 3.9%? well, what i d say is, did you get any bewe it in from the tax cut? have your wages really gone up to what you think you deserve? do your employers treat you with any more respect and dignity than they did before? what s the story? ask these folks. they re not getting their fair share. reporter: biden s long political record could be an asset and a liability. trailed by questions about his role in the anita hill hearings, he s now trying to make amends, calling hill a few weeks ago. but she said his words weren t enough. she said, i cannot be satisfied by simply saying i m sorry for what happened to you. i will be satisfied when i know there is real change and real accountability and real purpose. well, see, i think that s what she told me. i was grateful she took the call. as the committee chairman, i take responsibility that she did not get treated well. i take responsibility for that. you take responsibility? i take responsibility for that, because i was the chairman. reporter: biden now laser-focused on donald trump, calls this race a battle for the soul of america. our political system iseang . rr:eel us in a crowded field, the former vice president stands out. why he knows how to work both sides of the aisle. he knows how to be a we rather than an us versus them. mary bruce live from pittsburgh. and mary, president trump seems to clearly be paying attention to joe biden, firing off four tweets about biden and union support for biden today alone. reporter: yeah, david. joe biden seems to be getting under the president s skin. pennsylvania is a state that trump won by less than one percentage point, and joe biden knows this is a must-win. but first, he has no win the nomination, and david, there is still a long fight ahead. you ll be there every step of the way. mary bruce tonight, thank you. and much more of robin roberts exclusive interview with joe bidened a h ed and his. jill biden. and what will his answer be to make america great again? that s tomorrow morning on gma. now, to the two sixth graders tonight accused of a plot to shoot classmates and teachers at their school. tonight, those students are now charged with conspiracy to commit murder. here sth abcr pl rorr: resource officer who saved the day at this elementary school, following up on rumors he heard friday that two sixth graders had a hit list and were planning to gun down students here, about an hour west of knoxville. one was taken custody here in school and the other at home. reporter: police say they never found a hit list, but did find a hand drawn map of the school and a plan to hide guns in school lockers until the end of the school year. that s when investigators say the two students planned to march through the building from a back door, shooting teachers and students and then shooting and killing themselves. the families were very cooperative and no weapons for found at any house. reporter: parents at the school say they re thankful, but also furious that they re just hearing about this now. the way they handled it, by not letting the parents know, that was wrong on every level. reporter: both students are being charged as juveniles, with conspiracy to commit first degree murder. as kids, they re not being identified, but they are in custody tonight. david? steve osunsami with us on a monday night. steve, thank you. next, that global headline from isis tonight. a chilling new threat from what appears to be the world s most wanted man. isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi. they ve now lost that territory, but this message to the west seems intent on proving they are still fighting and are still focused. here s abc s chief global affairs correspondent martha raddatz now. reporter: if it is proven this is baghdadi, the terrorist fugitive appears grayer now. the isis territory he once claimed, gone. but he seems as defiant and threatening as ever, warning that the fight against the west is not over. it was five years ago, when baghdadi was last seen in a mosul mosque, calling on muslims worldwide to join his bloody cause. in this latest 18-minute video released by isis today, from which these images are taken, the man identified as baghdadi praises the sri lankan attackers, suicide bombers who left at least 250 people dead last week, claiming it was payback for baghouz, the last isis territory to fall to american-backed forces in syria the month before. it was then president trump declared isis defeated. all right, so, let s get live to martha raddatz in our washington bureau tonight. and martha, as you mentioned there, their territory might now be gone in syria and iraq, but isis is clearly trying to prove that it is still a threat. reporter: yes, david. isis is still very much a threat. they may not have claim to territory now, but baghdadi s message of attacking the west and its allies is still resonating with new recruits and the thousands of fighters who remain in iraq and syria. others boldly carrying out attacks far from where isis first took root. david? all right, martha raddatz, thank you. a new round of severe weather developing tonight. heavy rain stretching all the way to the northeast this week. it follows a late season blast of winter, blizzard conditions and 30 inches of snow in montana. and look at this. chicago with two and a half inches. the biggest snow total on record this late in the season there. and a funnel cloud in texas. chief meteorologist ginger zee tracking a huge portion of the country under severe weather watches tonight. ginger, good evening. reporter: hey, good evening. this one not quite as snowy, but still something to watch. flash flood potential anywhere from iowa city, david, to st. louis and kansas city to tulsa, oklahoma. s rell kifly complex system, but it s going to have enough lift that large hail is a big issue tomorrow. so, cover those cars, get them in the garage, from dallas all the way up into parts of missouri. check that out, five-plus inches, the target area, just north of i-40, david. ginger, thank you. we turn next tonight to the college football star shot just hours after being drafted by the nfl. police in topeka tonight are hunting for the person who shot new york giants draft pick cory ballentine. the shooting occurred at an off-campus party. police have not made any arrests. they are working on leads. there is still much more ahead on world news tonight this monday. celebrating a trail-blazing director who has died at just a 1. there is also news tonight coming in tonight on larry king. also, the mother who demanded school surveillance and got it, and this is what it showed. the teacher kicking her daughter in the library. we have new images tonight of that deadly crane collapse, and what witnesses saw right before this came crashing down. it was deadly, as you know. and the ballew ga whale found in the ocean wearing a mysterious harness. a lot of attention on this today, and why some believe, and we re not kidding here, that the whale may be a russian spy. why it was outfitted with that equipment. a lot more news ahead. makes you feel like you can do it all. but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by asking your healthcare provider about vraylar. vraylar treats acute mania of bipolar 1 disorder. vraylar significantly reduces overall manic symptoms,. .and was proven in adults with mixed episodes who have both mania and depression. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia, due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol; weight gain; high blood sugar and decreased white blood cells, both of which can be serious or fatal;. dizziness upon standing; falls; seizures; impaired judgment; heat sensitivity; and trouble swallowing may occur. ask if vraylar can help you get on track. bill s back needed a afvacation from his vacation. an amusement park. so he stepped on the dr. scholl s kiosk. it recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain. so you can move more. dr. scholl s. born to move. 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