Case, each supreme court justice has been left to him or her south to decide what s okay what s not okay. and how to deal with potential violation josh, it is great to have you. thank you so much, josh caplan with propublica thanks for having me on also tonight, hunter biden, wiping away tears in court as his daughter, naomi, took the stand naomi appearing very uncomfortable, trembling, also tearing up as she testified, telling the jury about visiting her dad in rehab and a late-night text that he sent her around the time that he bought his gun saying, quote, i can t take this. i miss you so much and i just want to hang out. naomi also testifying, quote, things got bad for hunter biden following the death of her uncle, beau biden, and that she did not see her father used drugs at any point in 2018? i want to go straight to evan perez. he is outside the courtroom delaware right now and evan, a hunter
i don t know if it explains the clearing of the courtroom and how dramatic it was to be in the room when the judge was so fired up. i thought he was going to throw him behind bars. so bob costello gets on the stand, and right away he is combative, he was aggressive, he is rolling his eyes. he s muttering audibly. could you hear it? i am in the courtroom lighting up the chat like, guys, this is going off the rails fast, okay? we had a sense it was going south. but i didn t know it was going to go as south as it did. when you re there, you re also communicating to your colleagues. we sort of have a bizarre pony express situation now where we re allowed to use some electronics. we can t use our phones, because there s a concern somebody s going to mess up and tape it, but we can use our laptops. we can send messages, but we can t use our phones. so in the chat we re all sending color about the courtroom about
Said that he wanted the grand jurors to hear from and i thought well okay, that s a really stupid move because it s never going to stop the grand jury from indicting and you just revealed something to the prosecution and you know, as a defense lawyer, one of the things you have, sometimes almost the only thing you have, is surprise, so here it was flopped out to the prosecution a year ago, so obviously the record here does give some flavor to bob costello. a little bit. i don t know if it explains the clearing of the courtroom and how dramatic it was to be in the room when the judge was so fired up i thought he was going to throw him behind bars, so bob castillo gets on the standard right away he is combative, aggressive, rolling his eyes, muttering audibly. i am in the courtroom lighting up the chat line. guys, this is going off the rails fast. we had a sense it was going south, but i didn t know it was going to go south as it did.
when you re there, you re also communicating to her colleagues. yes, we sort of have a bizarre pony express situation now where we are allowed to use some electronics, so we can use our phones in the physical courtroom because there is a concern that somebody s going to take that even though we ve been admonished not to, but we can use our laptops, so we can send messages via email or dm but we can use our phones so we are all sending color from the courtroom about tone, how things are going, what we are observing. i often focus on the jury. right away, the jury is looking at each other like some stuff is about to go down here. they have been a sleepy morning. everybody was feeling monday and all of its glory then bob costello gets on the stand in the afternoon and we are off to the races so because he was so contemptuous of the judge and the process and did not like being interrupted this is a former federal prosecutor who really felt like he should be respected and he thought the
Then 40 years ago, they were kinder and gentler to coin a phrase, and how the generation might have been tougher. what do you think about that sentiment? well we call them the greatest generation and they were surely great, no question, when they re country called they came. i m not convinced that if the country called, these young men and women, but mostly young men, they would not go either. i believe they would go. my favorite novelist says don t be fooled by those guys in the south wearing those alligator golf pants, they are just ready to go to war. that good old boy thing can be easily translated. i don t know but i have confidence. we had a son who was a marine. we met his colleagues, had him up on the 4th of july, pretty tough bunch of customers they were and i think they are out there. but remember, the war that we fight next, trace, you know, won t be so much helmeted
Have gotten. it is also said he wants to see an early resolution to the crisis that has been playing out forfour years. whether that is possible without china going off the bmb without china going off the lamb land that they are blocked into, we do expect some kind of detente with china as well. you are the former detente with china as well. you are the former ambassador to the united states, the uk and israel, and that is why want to pick up. india has been pretty silent when it comes to the war in gaza. i am wondering if at some point you india is going to have to say something given that they ve said that they are going to be the voice the global south, but if you look at other members of the global south like south africa, india by comparison has been required. i by comparison has been required- by comparison has been reuuired. ., ~ by comparison has been reuuired. ., ,, ., required. i don t think we have been quiet required. i don t think we have been quiet but required. i don t think we have been quiet but i required. i don t think we have been quiet but i think- required. i don t think we have been quiet but i think we - required. i don t think we have been quiet but i think we have | been quiet but i think we have not really taken the kind of position that south africa took front and centre against israel. the reasons are very clear. we have a well developed relationship with israel now. i
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