structure structures in our political system, as envisioned by the founders, that sometimes they re going to disadvantage democrats, but the truth of the matter is, is that if we have a strong message, if we re speaking to what the american people care about, typically you know, the popular vote and the electoral college vote will align, and i guess part of my overall message here as i leave for the holidays is that if we looked for one explanation or one silver bullet, or one easy fix for our politics, then we re probably initiative and school nutrition program is a greater threat to democracy than our government going after the press if they re issuing a story we don t like. i mean that s an issue that i think we ve got to wrestle with. and we will. people asked me how do you feel after the election? i say well, look, this is a clarifying moment. it s a useful reminder that voting counts, politics counts, what the president-elect is going to be doing is going to be very different than what i was doing, and i think people will be able to compare and contrast and make judgments about what worked for the american people, listen to some of what he said there. in early september, when i saw president putin in china, i felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn t happen was to talk to him directly, and tell him to cut it out, and there were going to be some serious consequences if if he didn t. reporter: okay, now that warning and there will be consequences, obviously that didn t stop this process of selective leaks, of continued hacks that we know from intelligence officials still continue to this day. so obviously that warning of consequences was ineffective and the president didn t really address that aspect of it, but i think what he tried to do throughout this press conference was explain his behavior, his choices in great detail, and also defend them, and we saw a defense of how he handled the hacking initially. we saw a defense of the fbi and how they acted, defense of the timing of the release of that information, and also an extensive defense on how the u.s. has handled the situation, the absolutely wrenching situation ongoing in aleppo. listen to some of that. part of the goal here was to make sure that we did not do the work of the leakers for them by raising more and more questions about the integrity of the election right before the leck was taking place, at a time, by the way, when the president-elect himself was raising questions about the integrity of the election. reporter: so there you heard his defense of the timing, of naming russia, of the political forces involved. of course, you know, how that happened, how it all played out ultimately is the open debate that s raging right now. i mean, there has been criticism of how that happened coming not just from republicans, from democrats. so the president wanted to lay out why they felt in fact he spelled it out in those words. he said that he felt that he did what he should have done, how his administration handled it. he feels that his administration allowed the intelligence community to do their jobs, and he kind of left it at that. he also didn t want to wade too far into other, you know, really difficult issues right now like the electors, who might not vote, cast their votes for donald trump. the criticism of the fbi and coming from democrats that that may have contributed to the outcome of the election, so there are things that, you know, as expected, he didn t want to go into too much detail on but you saw him here wanting to fully take this opportunity at length to explain his decisions and once again maybe for the last time try to make the case to the american public of why he felt he was doing, you know, the best under the circumstances, and trying to protect them. jake? michelle kosinski at the white house thanks so much. the now to how the u.s. came to point fingers at russia. sources confirming an internal message sent from cia director john brennan that the fbi and u.s. intelligence, the national security director, as well, sorry the director of national intelligence as well as the director of the cia, all of them, including the fbi russia tried to undermine u.s. politics and this is important, this is significant, and that one of their motivations was to try to help donald trump win the election. joining me now cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. jim, there has not been unanimity on what the motivation of russia was. the news that the fbi now agrees with cia director brennan, that seems significant. well it is. i think one point to make is that there was less disagreement than some reporting and then some gop lawmakers have been saying, speaking to multiple officials both in the intelligence agencies and in law enforceme enforcement, this is what is new today. cia director john brennan feeling the need to write the entire cia staff an internal message that said the following, there is strong consensus on the scope, nature and zpent jake noted it was key of russian hacking. let me add this caveat. you never know intent for sure, that s looking into the minds of president vladimir putin and people working for him. their analysis is there were multiple intents, one undermine the political process, sow doubts here in america about the presidential election. in addition to that weaken hillary clinton through the releases of emails and internal communications and thereby help donald trump. my understanding from speaking to multiple intelligence officials is that early on, even russia may not have judged that donald trump was going to win this election, but as he continued to improve his chances, there say perception, judgment and assessment inside the cia that they believe russia went, in effect, all-in for donald trump. again, that s their assessment with the necessary caveats that they can t know for sure but another thing here. there have been reports out there, also been charges you might say from lawmakers that the fbi and the cia are disagreeing that the cia is alone in making this assessment, that the intention may very well have been to help donald trump. in fact i m told by people on both sides of the river that, is from law enforcement and intelligence agencies that that disaxwreegreement is overblown. they find that plausible and the cia believes it has more evidence that was the the case. i ve spoken to a lot of people inside the agencies. there is enormous frustration and anger among intelligence agents and analysts and the cia, and a number of things, attacks on them, questioning of the work that they do, charges that they are politicizing the intelligence here, going in for hillary clinton, say by making this assessment. enormous frustration there. they re trying to do their job and what you re hearing in this communication from the cia director to them, listen, we re on the same page. don t hear what you say about disagreement between us and the cia. we like what you re doing, we respect what you re doing, up necessary message. let s bring in our panel now to talk about the president s press conference, we have usa today columnist keirston powers, republican pollster kristen soltis anderson, senior political analyst david gergen, as well as david axelrod. and let me start with you, keirston. the president coming out making a strong defense of himself, of his administration, of the decisions he s made and very specifically criticizing not just the russians, but things that donald trump, the president-elect, has said and done regarding russia. he also was pretty critical of the media as well, he felt the media didn t do their job covering the issue appropriately, that the media went overboard in covering things that he referred to was in the wikileaks emails basically sort of routine information that was embarrassing but shouldn t be getting the front page coverage that it was getting and basically saying we put the information out there and you guys didn t do enough with it and i actually agree with him on the coverage of the more salacious or silly stuff that wasn t relevant. i don t necessarily agree on the other side. i think it s the job of the people in power to make issues for people for the press to follow them and highlight them for being important, that s how things often get covered, and that s how people often know what s important. kristen, president obama citing a poll that suggests that 37% of republicans in the united states have a favorable impression of vladimir putin. i believe that s a higher favorable rating among republicans than president obama has, and his point being was that donald trump the president-elect has been cozying up for want of a better word, praising putin. we have become a very tribal nation so when people are listening to these poll questions they re responding from sort of partisan instincts. you ve seen not only improvements in the flafrt toward vladimir putin but wikileaks, where three years ago those numbers flipped p republicans slightly more positive toward wikileaks and a lot of this was in part aided by much of the discussion before the election about the need for this election to be taken seriously and treated as legitimate and now republicans, having won the election are feeling a little bit like well you told us we needed to accept these results. now we re being told this election was illegitimate. i think that s some of the emotional response. maybe we like vladimir putin and we like wikileaks. it s not all republicans and you ll see in some of the confirmation hearings for the secretary of state, some republican senators who are opposed to what russia is doing. some of the conflicts between existing republican senators and the new president-elect potentially coming out. at one point president obama knew about these hacks and suggested of course he did. take a listen to that. the intelligence that i ve seen gives me great confidence in their assessment that the russians carried out this hack. not much happens in russia without vladimir putin. let me go to david axelrod now and david, did anything president obama say surprise you? it seemed to me that he was very aggressively linking donald trump and the russians and i don t know that that s going to help make the case to the country, which some of whom did vote for donald trump, the president-elect that this russian hack should be taken very seriously. first of all on the previous point about the poll, i think the point he was trying to make is not that a third of the republicans are soft on putin, but the point that kristen made, which is that we have become so polarized, that even on something like putin, partisan tribal instincts kick in and you see these great shifts and what he was making the case that we shouldn t do that. i actually thought, jake, that he was trying not to be, to done thematory of donald trump, but he was making a point that trump, throughout the campaign, has or throughout this issue has minimized and dismissed this, and there s a danger in that. his overarching point it seemed to me was this was an incursion on our national sovereignty. this is not a democratic issue or a republican issue. setting aside of what the intent or motivation was, it was an alarming intrusion on our political process by vladimir putin, and that should be a source of concern to everyone, and on this point, jim sciutto mentioned earlier how dismayed the intelligence community, i assume the fbi is about the characterization of their roles in this. i thought one important part of this press conference was the president s stout defense of those people who do that work. he was talking about the fbi and he said they work hard, they save lives. it s important for the president of the united states to stand up for our institutions, and i think the president was trying very hard to do that in this press conference. david gergen let s talk about that last point. obviously the fbi just in the last 4 hours has really been under fire by former secretary of state hillary clinton, who in a room full of donors faulted james comey for the letter and her, what she perceives to be his interference in the election, costing her the election, and then john podesta, hillary clinton s campaign chairman, today in the washington post laying out in an op-ed how he thinks the fbi is really performing in a subpar manner and its behavior during the election was indefensible in john podesta s view. as david axelrod pointed out president obama a strong defender of the fbi today. he was a very strong defender of the fbi, and i think, jake, his whole press conference underscored just how dramatic a change we are having in american government. ever since the end of world war ii, when one president has succeeded another, the two presidents, the old one and new one almost always agree on the nature of the threat we face as americans, but disagree sometimes on the means of dealing with it. in this case, president obama has a completely different view of the threat we face from russia than donald trump does. he lay squarely on the russia, at the russian s feet, blamed for what s happening in aleppo we wouldn t have this slaughter were it not for the russians bringing in armaments and saving assad and the question on the election and the hacking. the russians are squarely behind that and here we ve got donald trump coming in with a completely different sense of reality in effect going we want to cozy up to the russians. vladimir putin can be our friend. he s the strong man i admire. i admire him and 37% of the american people follow along with trump and say that, too. we re in new territory here on so many different fronts, and i think it makes the trump presidency not just fascinating but it also makes it, you know, very, very, makes people feel very uneasy in washington in places like the fein and the cia, where they want to do their jobs and they fear they have a president who comes in, who is coming in, who is hostile toward them, who has a very different sense of reality and they don t know where that goes. of course, at home you might be forgiven for wondering if russia did all of this as the u.s. intelligence agencies and president obama allege russian officials did. what is the united states going to do about it? president obama did briefly address that. take a listen. i told russia to stop it, and indicated there will be consequences when they do it. our goal continues to be to send a clear message to russia or others not to do this stuff because we can do this stuff to you. clarissa ward is live in moscow. president obama saying there will be consequences for russia s actions. has moscow reacted to that threat yet and do they worry at all, given the fact that they are so overjoyed, according to your reporting and others, with the election of donald trump? reporter: well there s been no official response yet, and i wouldn t hold your breath in terms of any major shift in the russian party line which has been this is ludicrous, this is nonsense, prove it or move on. it s indecent, was the word the kremlin spokesperson used today to describe these constant accusations but i think you also heard president obama during that press conference really illuminating the two main reasons that it is so difficult to respond to russia and to respond to president putin in particular. the first one being that naming and shaming don t work. naming russia doesn t work because russia just denies it, whether it s hacking, whether it s when the little green men first appeared in crimea, you might remember president putin initially denied there was anything going on there. shaming we ve seen clearly doesn t work as in aleppo particularly, in that example. so there s a sense that you have a tough situation on your hands as a u.s. president, when you re trying to respond to something like this, because you can t name, you can t shame and the second difficulty becomes that because russia is engaging in what is essentially hybrid warfare, you can t really respond in a conventional way and you certainly can t respond in a public way, and unlike president vladimir putin, who doesn t really have to answer to his voters, i think the u.s. president does feel some pressure from the american people to answer to them to explain what is being done to punish russia or to retaliate or ensure something like this never happens again, and what president obama was essentially saying there is you can t really do that in this type of situation. so he then says i can t illuminate for you, i can t tell you exactly how i m going to respond and i m sure that s bound to leave some people feeling was that a weak answer, is it a copout? why won t he name president putin directly and say exactly what s going to be done in terms of retaliation. it struck me it illustrates some of the ways in which it is so difficult to respond to the unique set of threats that russia and president putin present to the u.s. jake? clarissclarissa, let me ask h your senior international correspondent hat, somebody who has covered what s going on in syria, from the front lines, president obama said he feels responsible every time he sees images from syria, whether it s children being killed by sniper fire or anyone being slaughtered but that ultimately, he said i understand the impulse to try to do something, but then ultimately when it came to a decision and finding a decision on what to do about syria and the civil war, finding a solution that was sustainable and realistic and good for the united states, that he ended up where he ended up and he doesn t know that it s successful but he doesn t know that he would arrive at a different decision, having covered what s going on in syria, what was your response when you heard him say that? i think my response was it s clear that president obama, that this does weigh on him heavily. he has said this a number of times, that it keeps him up at night, that he does feel some sort of responsibility. i think maybe privately he might acknowledge that there was a window at some point where the u.s. probably could have done more, where the u.s. potentially could have saved more lives, but what we ve seen the president do over and over again is try to present syria as a situation where there were only two options open to the u.s. do a little bit of not that much, which is what the u.s. ultimately went for, or go full scale boots on the ground, hundreds of thousands of troops invasion. personally, from what i have seen on the ground, from what i have heard from allies who were supporting the rebels, i do believe there was a middle ground option, although i do not think anyone would argue that there have ever been any easy answers in syria, but certainly we ve seen president obama repeatedly try to present this as it was a choice between what we did or a full scale invasion and i still think i did the right thing by doing what we did. obviously he s interested in preserving his legacy but i think you heard there as he talked about the ways in which he s haunted by quha is happening in syria he is aware history may not be so kind t may be a stain on his legacy. david axelrod, there are no easy answers about syria, but do you accept that president obama largely tries to present this as the two choices, either not really do much of anything, which is what s going on right now, or full scale invasion, and he kind of leaves out the fact that there were other options, including more fully arming syrian moderate rebels, creating a no fly zone, trying more emphatically to get arab nation troops on the ground there. what is your insight? first of all just knowing him as i do, when he says he anguishes over this, i know that to be true. i don t think anything influences him more than children. he said this is the first time i cried in the oval office, and whenever a child is in distress or being wronged, he s also someone who tend to ask the question then what? the question that wasn t asked when the invasion of iraq took place, so you heard him articulate it here. i don t think he was particularly defensive today. he was laying out his reasoning and history will judge whether it was right or wrong. his reasoning this would have sucked us into a conflict that would have grown and would have enveloped us in the way the past conflict did and the country could not afford that, couldn t stand that. whether he would disagree i m sure there was a viable middle ground and that again will be debated by history but i don t think anyone should conclude that he was looking for a way not to solve this problem i think he desperately wanted to find a seclusion. you talk to people around the white house this is something that haunts them. david gergen, it does seem as though presidents and historians judge themselves harshly when it comes to inaction in situations such as this, i m thinking about president bill clinton and rwanda. the public doesn t really have much interest getting involved in foreign wars or better or worse, often for worse when it comes to innocent lives being slaughtered. that s a very good point, jake. it s certainly true that george w. bush will be remembered far more for going into iraq than president obama remembered for staying out of syria. the syrian situation became a lot more complicated when there was a dramatic turning point when the russians got in. that made it a lot harder to look at any middle ground, and this thing has gone south ever since that happened. the russians have been blocking actions of the u.n. you would think by this time the u.n. would have teams in there to save these poor civilians and when you have the russian blocking thing you can t get anywhere. i just think that s why donald trump represents 180-degree turn in how we think about the russians, how to respond to them and how to move ahead in the world. kristen, what tuning about president obama s response when it came to talking about aleppo? he said i cannot claim that my strategy has been successful. i appreciate that president obama is anguished as we are when we see the horrific footage and photos. anguish doesn t save the children of alep poe. there have been folks all along before russia got involved that have been saying we need to arm moderate rebels there, because now you have situations where you have cities that were first taken by isis, liberated by assad and liberated from isis, because the one good potential side was never fully supported by the u.s. so a feckless half measure led us to where we are and created a vacuum where russia was able to step in and take stronger measures. president-elect donald trump sounds less interested in getting involved in syria and iraq than president obama was. i also think to a certain extent we don t know what would have happened if we armed the rebels. now the people can say if we just would have armed the rebels all of these great things would have happened. it could have easily gone badly. we ve armed rebels in the past and it s gone badly. we didn t know who the rebels were so we could be giving arms to potentially isis actually. the president did a painstaking step by step going through all of the different things he had to think through making this decision and it weighs heavily on him and i think he was in a really tough decision in making this call, and in a way we ll never really know whether it would have made a difference or not. kristen, kirsten, david, david, thank you so much. our breaking news coverage. congressman sean duffy, republican of wisconsin, when we come back will weigh in on president obama s final news conference of the year. stay with us. don t stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i m not contagious. see me to know that. .i won t stop 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if you remember in the middle of october trmp trrp was saying this election was going to be rigged. i ve come on cnn the election s not going to be requirigged. fair and free. president obama said to donald trump stop whining, mag the case to the american people. never did he say russia was involved in this election and now after the election the president s come out and we see leaks from the intelligence department, media reports have come out as well about russian involvement. the problem that we have is, we haven t seen any reports yet. the intelligence community hasn t come to the hill and briefed deb nunez, nor senator ron johnson, chairman of homeland security in the senate so we have great reservation how this played out and i think a key point is, one, if russia was involved, russia s hacking, i want to know that. i think the american people deserve to know that but the truth is, i agree with barack obama. we had a free and fair election, all votes that were cast were counted and the dnc hack or the hack in to clinton clintonhilla email through john podesta, nobody cared about the attacks. this didn t drive the opinion. they looked at the economy, security and strong leadership. they didn t care that the dnc was involved helping hillary clinton over bernie sanders or some of the internal scandals and strive inside the hillary clinton campaign that came out through the podesta emails. those were nonfactors so the hack didn t impact the outcome but that they were trying, we should actually know about that and i support any investigation to find out what involvement they are trying to have. one other point, jake, russia should be pretty good at hacking and if we re going to have some influence, try to have some real influence on the election. they were miserable failures if they just did the dnc and podesta. you might be conflating the idea of hacking into voting machines to change vote counts. that s one of the things that i think was being debated before the election, whether there would be an attempt to do that and that obviously did not happen and i think that s what president obama talked about before the election in terms of go out and make your case, but then in terms of what effect did the election, i mean i guess we don t know. hillary clinton could have gone to wisconsin after the convention, your home state and the kremlin didn t tell her not to do that. there s any number of factors that could have played a role, we re talking about 80,000 votes in three states and hillary clinton would be president-elect right now, so the idea that maybe this played a role, we ll never know but maybe it did. surely you would want to know what russia did. sounds like that s what you re saying, that congress needs to get to the bottom of it. i totally agree with that but i do think sometimes i think the media can conflate the two as well and say russia hacked and then therefore had an influgs on the election. i can speak for my part of the state of wisconsin, and it had no bearing on the decision that the people made on who they were going to vote for. it was embarrassing stuff but not really things that drove the electorate one way or the other, in my opinion, from the voters that i saw, and again going back to president obama s statements at the beginning in the middle of october, you know, if there was hacks coming in from russia, he should have talked about that with donald trump and said you know what? there is an issue here. this election could be rigged not by the voting machines but because of russian influence and we should have had a whole vetting of that in october but if not why won t the intelligence community come to the hill and vet members of congress? why are we getting this information through leaks instead of in a secure setting on the hill? that s a head scratcher for a lot of us in congress. we look forward to them briefing you and open hearings as well. congressman duffy thanks so much, appreciate your time thanks, jake. hillary clinton s campaign manager says the fbi s handling of the russian hacking shows something is deeply broken at the agency. does the nation s top law enforcement official agree? i ll ask attorney general loretta lynch next. y red tag sa. this thing is a beast. steel or aluminum? steel. why? science. it s gonna hold up over aluminum, big time. you can get special holiday pricing and when you find your red tag, you get thousands more cash back. that s two deals in one. two deals sound better than one. that s a for-sure thing for me. during the red tag sales event, get two deals in one. find your tag for an average total value over ninety-six hundred dollars on chevy silverado all stars. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. what makesheart healthysalad the becalifornia walnuts.r? the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. signer attack on u.s. election systems, blames a long time grudge held by russian president vladimir putin. john podesta also took some time and blame for the sprawling hack that ensnared her candidacy. he faulted failures at the fbi and podesta called out fbi director james comey. now the fbi however is pushing back. evan perez joins me now. evan, you ve been reporting on fbi warnings of attempted hacks since the summer. how do you recall officials describing their response? jake, i think what s happening right now is members of the clinton campaign are trying to explain to their supporters how they lost this election and hillary clinton met with some of our donors and she described it this way. take a listen. we have to recognize that, as the latest reports made clear, vladimir putin himself directed the covert cyber attacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against mimi. against me. hillary clinton s campaign manager john podesta wrote an op-ed in the washington post in addition to the fact that the fbi director sent these letters just before the election that talked about the finding of new emails, he also said that the fbi did not work hard enough to investigate the dnc hacks, certainly not as hard as they did to pursue the email investigation. they left voice mails with an i.t. staffer. jake, we ve been reporting on this since the summer and our reporting scholes the fbi one official told me they called the dnc 11 times they reached out to the dnc, they reached out to the dnc s general counsel s office, they went so far as to invite the dnc to an exercise to a briefing where they could get an idea of how these things are done. the dnc declined. so the fbi did not do everything perfectly here but there was a little bit morrow bust response than podesta makes it out to be. some spinning coming from the dnc why this wasn t their fault. owe des ta suggested the fbi should have investigated the hacks by the russians with the same intensity and manpower that it used to investigate hillary clinton s private email server. is that a fair charge? are the cases too different to compare? they re very different. one case we re talking about the clinton and her staff being the targets of an investigation, of a criminal investigation, and then the other the dnc, they were victims of a crime. you could only go so far to encourage a victim to cooperate. if they decline there s not much more they can do. they didn t call the security company that she should have done and look at it from the point of view of the dnc, they don t necessarily want the fbi in their business. we can understand perhaps why this went this way. interesting, thank you so much. attorney general loretta lynch oversees the entire justice department and this includes of course the fbi. earlier today i sat down with her exclusively and i asked her to respond to what poe des spod said in his op-ed in his case against the fbi. he said he s surprised to read in the new york times when the fbi discovered the russian attack in september of 2015 it failed to even send a single agent to warn senior dnc officials. instead messages were left with the dnc i.t. help desk. is that an accurate description of the outreach to the fbi did to the dnc and if so, is that sufficient? so as we ve talked about earlier this year, the investigation into the hacks of the dnc and the d triple c is an ongoing investigation, an active investigation so i m not able to comment on the specifics of how people were contacted but i can say that the fbi has worked closely with those organizations, both to discuss what we ve learned about the hacks to gather information about them so that we can continue this investigation. whether or not you can get into specifics, is it true that there was this level of calling the dnc that doesn t sound particularly competent or doesn t sound like it had the urgency that one would think? is that basic description that podesta makes, is it accurate? i can tell you this investigation was taken seriously from the beginning. this is an incredibly serious issue. i can t comment on mr. podesta s sources or where he gets his information or why he has that view. what i can say is that he s not involved in the ongoing investigation so he wouldn t be privy to everything that would have been done or said to that. but as i said, he s entitled to his opinion, but what i m what he s not entitled to is facts. i wonder if his facts are accurate. he finds it downright infewer yaiting nearly the exact same time no one could bother to drive ten minutes from the agency. he is suggesting without question that hillary clintonese email server got more attention from the justice department and the fbi than this hack investigation by russia, which i think it s fair to say seems fairly serious. well that s an ongoing investigation so i would say it s been taken very seriously. did the clinton email investigation get more attention than the hacks? you can t characterize it and i don t think that it is going to be helpful to try and draw equivalencies to any investigation with others to say and therefore it means that one was more or less important. because as i said, one is resolved right now. one is finished and one is very active and very ongoing, so there you see a great deal of activity still continuing. i know you can t comment on the active investigation but let me just put it this way. john podesta is out there trashing the fbi. and he s saying that the investigation into the hacks of the dnc was substandard. that s clearly what he s saying. do you agree with that characterization? i don t. i don t. first of all, the investigation isn t even over, so i think it s impossible to characterize it in any one way or the other. again, i know where mr. podesta is on taking information. said the new york times, a big long new york times story which i m sure you read. i know also because of his involvement with the campaign he ll have a certain interest with this and a certain view of that, and so i again i allow him his opinion. everyone has a great deal of respect for him so i allow him that opinion but i disagree with that if that is the characterization he s trying to make. i think you ve got to look at every investigation separately. you ve got to look at every case separately, and you ve got to allow for the fact that the way in which someone may be contacted isn t indicative of the full relationship that they developed or the response that they may have gotten initially from that organization as well. and you can see my entire interview with outgoing attorney general loretta lynch this sunday. i speak exclusively with former republican presidential nominee senator john mccain. see both on state of the union at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, an american hero displaying bravery. you may have never heard his name but you will hear his story next. 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that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. let s be clear about what he is saying and what that means. he s denigrating, he s talking down our democracy and i for one am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position. donald trump s comments tonight have already been condemned by jeff flake of arizona, lindsey graham of south carolyn a. will they reverberate by voters? we ll see. i m joined by chris of host all in with msnbc, and former chairman of the national committee, michael steal, and msnbc everybody s a political analyst any way, i shouldn t base that, everything is. he s the host of the how hewitt show, and also msnbc political analyst. who i can start with? chris we ll just go across here. this you know, there is the i m alfred hitchcoc. he was given the third world of idea, the sort of banana republican idea heads i win, and you get prosecuted, and tales you lose and i m going to say the election is legitimate. he refused and said he ll keep us in suspense. it s not showmanship, it s dangerous his former campaign chair, paul manafort, this is the game they played in the ukraine and this is the game people who work around donald trump, played with it is election, claiming it wass was illegitimate. it s kind of frightening. michael, you re laughing. i m not laughing, chris. this is the party of abraham lincoln, the grand old party who won t accept the results of the election. it s not the party i led. this is not representative of any nominee we ve ever had in media then you re going to he turnout in great numbers. the two hot ticks as to what michael said, if i were some enterprising reporter, din dino rossi, both of whom lost, in contested elections i think norm coleman was cheated, and din orossi. how was he cheated? they manufactured ballots after the election by the dozens. and washington state they kep kept counting, and counting, and counting until they got the number. both of them conceded at the end of the legal recount. they wanted to make the point, if it was so close this a particular state, i will fight like al gore did. he could have done that. he did not do that. he used language outside the norm. i can say that applies more broadly. it was so striking him talking about the supreme court justices and pro life, right? most republican candidates don t just say i will point pro life justices because everyone understands that s a subtext. they say i will appoint justices who will up told the constitution, because he s basically reading austin decoff cards, he accepts the top line, i ll appoint pro life justices. i watched republican candidate after can. they don t come out and say that. in fact, hillary clinton did the same thing. that s right, but the republicans she said i had a litmus test. it is the republicans and judicial conservatives a litmus test is ipso facto,il legitimate. who said they there s no one left. he is so unembedded in any sort of fluency is he gives you the top line off the index card. everything was airplane mode until a certain point. all the sudden, trump s language on the life issue, on late term, certain the idea of aborting a baby a few days before birth, he didn t talk about spina bifida, he didn t talk about the concerns people have when they have tests in the fifth month. he didn t talk about the clinicalcasions th clinical argument that it s bad, first of all, about this particular procedure, it s not just late term, it s a procedure. he i think he rang the bell for the pro lifers today. that s why he did it. the delivery, that procedure describing the nineth month of pregnancy is called a cesarian. it is true, he i think donald trump demonstrated that he has absolutely 0 fluency with anything to do with what happens to a woman. let s everybody judge for themselves. in pregnancy and hillary did the opposite. was he talking about partial birth? let s take a look. if you go with what hillary is saying in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. now, you can say that that s okay and hillary can say that that s okay, but it s not okay with me. because based on what she s saying and where she s going and she s been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day, and that s not acceptable. that is not what happens in these cases and using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. you should meet with some of the women that i ve met with, women i ve known over the course of my life. this is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make, and i do not believe the government should be making it. okay. i think hillary clinton, apart from the values question, it was surreal, the differences between pro life and pro-choice, the real values differences and sometimes there s conflict and we have to deal with it. hillary clinton never lost focus on who she was going after, women in the suburbs. she talked about the need for gun regulation to protect toddlers. right. she s not talking about the work of marianne wright edelman. trump was working his base. he was working his base and not understanding the human bases of ideology, the idea they re going to rip a fetus at nine months before birth that is a cesarian section. he didn t understand the issue he s talking about. to chris point, he hasn t thought about it enough, to have a conversant point on it. he did that all night tonight, where hillary clinton gave her the oosition to understand empathynd talk about specific women and demonstrate the basic knowledge of what women in the fact and what they deal with. donald trump has no empathy for women, that s the basic reason he s so far behind. he lacks basic empathy for women. including sexual assault, obviously. i m curious what you guys thought of the heller discussion. chris wallace eye w i was gla started with the court. i m impressed donald trump knows heller. i thought that s a crazy thing to be surprised by. this is the single biggest second amendment case. i heard pennsylvania when he was talking about. that s the one thing he remembered. yeah, yeah. pennsylvania, indiana. what he was talking about on the late-term abortion, the gossnell horror factory, when he was talking about very explicitly to second amendment people, what she considers reasonable and what her court considers reasonable is not what the court considers reasonable accident and t, and the pivot to chicago made the point. it rang every bell for republican voters. the gossnell horror story, off the book, illegal illegal. completely illegal, horrific murder chamber. the guy in philly. if he would used gossnell, the way he used heller, it would have been very effective. and he did well reminding people the rigged media needs to confront the project veritas tapes. and what s that? that the dnc contractors insighti encited violence in chicago. if they are not talked about and debunked they will play into the media. do you think any credible media outlet is going to use james o keefe who dressed up as a pretend pimp who was somebody james o keefe he may as well as be from the national inquirer. we ve seen this before. the whole thing was garbage. i want to get the contention out. if they re right if this is legitimate, what does it establish? it establishes that democratic party nominated donald trump and effectively dis that s absurd. delegitimized him early. how would they get 14 million republicans to vote for donald trump? you have to own the people who voted for this guy. in your party, your voter chose him. joy, this goes to that s the end of it. what you heard throughout the campaign particularly members of the 168, the leadership of the rnc who were concerned about the open primary process. the cross over of a lot of voters who have never voted in the republican primary, showed up miraculously in certain states at certain times. you can look at it and dismiss it, but when you start putting together the story timeline, ju juxopposed to what s coming out let s talk about what s being stipulated. is the stipulation the democratic party engineered donald trump to be the nominee of the republican party? no, it s not. they worked actively to frame him as an extremist by provoking violence at his rallies and if you want to debunk that, you will debunk the rigged media. if you don t talk about it, you played into rigged media. are you going to try to blame democrats for people who behaved incredibly violently at trump rallies? the guy who sucker punched the black guy, you re saying democrats caused them to take those actions? i will tell them to watch the veritas videos. this is a special edition of hard ball live from las vegas for the final presidential debate. i sat in my apartment today in a very beautiful hotel known as trump made with chinese steal. sprint? i m hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we re talking within a 1% difference in reliability of each other. and, sprint saves you 50% on most current national carrier rates. save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. wouldn t you love more customers? i would definitely love some new customers. sprint will help you add customers and cut your costs. switch your business to sprint and save 50% on most current verizon, at&t and t-mobile rates. don t let a 1% difference cost you twice as much. whoooo! for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com. well, just put on a breathe right strip and . pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. so you can breathe . and sleep. shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers. breathe right. i m here with my colleges. hillary clinton had a short retort tonight with donald trump after responding about putin. i don t know putin. he said nice things about me. if we got along well, that would be good. if united states and russia got along well, and went after isis that would be good. he has no respect for her, he has no respect for our president, from everything i see, has no respect for this person. that s because he d rather have a pupper as presidet as pr the united states. you re the puppet. it s pretty clear the russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the united states of america that you encourag encourag encouraged espionage against our people, and you are willing to spout the putin line, sign up for his wish list, breakup nato, do whatever he wants to do and that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race. i don t know about motive. i hate motive in politics. it s just a stupid argument, but trump makes an argument we d be better off sharing responsibilities in the middle east with russia. and putin will play a role in the assad regime, we ll be better off than this endless war, we re in the middle of with the sunni and shia. i did understand trump tonight, i believe i understood him when he said if we take back mosul, that s the shia-led government of iraq. here we have the wonderful support of and the thing king abdulla has been afraid of all the time, and the sunis don t have isis, they re going to have some other organization. when are we going to stop believing we can take sides on the shia, who have been moraning itnist more antagonistic. is that how i heard it? it is how i heard it. hillary is just doing the usual. we re going to have no-fly zones. you can t have a flono fly zone you can t put planes in the air that s the problem. there s no full exploration of what the no-fly zone process would look like. where are these airplanes going to be based? where are they going to be based and how do they enforce it, particularly if they re russian planes involved in all of they. here s the other thing i was thinking about. how about any of the other aircraft fire? we have planes flying around over there. who are we shooting at. the enemy of my enemy is my enemy and my friend. i think it s amazing you were able to take that melage and assembly them into an order where you could understand any i thought it was meandering. they understand trump-ism. he sort of meandered around he was trying to remember whatever the last thing he was told by kellyanne conway. he demonstrated no conversant of the issue. i was thinking back to the 2008 campaign and candidate barack obama talking about how he wanted to have a different relationship with our enemies, that he was going to be the president to sit down with our enemies and negiate a deal, to because george bush, that bad bush, didn t know how to negotiate a good deal that got us into this war and i m sitting there thinking that this is now sort of a flash back to that point. here you have trump and a lot of republicans are talking about opening up a reproach if you will with russia, recognizing their growth and their expansion in the region. they re now a player, you ve got to play with them, and wanting to sit down and develop the relationship with them, and then you have this new establishment that s been created by obama and hillary, they re like how dare you, how dare you talk to russia. so it s just an interesting- i want to interesting. let me finish my point and i ll shut up. i m not saying that that is the right necessarily the right approach to take, but i just find that our policy in the middle east has changed to such a degree that it is 180 degrees from where it was when barack obama was talking about sitting down with the russians. let me say this and i want to start with this agreement, which is i do think the rhetoric on russia from hillary clinton is probably tactically smart, but i m worried about what it all amounts to after the election. i agree. i think we all don t want to head down the road towards another code war ld war or war nuclear power. aren t you afraid, chris, joy, that hillary s just nestling up to a war with assad s regime? for talks in the middle east, we are 100% agreement on that. my problem with trump is his greatest passion and his most passionate answer tonight again was in his defense of vladimir putin. i think you can want what you talked about, which is a realignment, a reset, where we take seriously the idea of where putin can be helpful to us in the middle east and not have the passion to defend him and the passion to defend his government and his efficacy let me just finish this point. the other thing is, there are 17 u.s. intelligences agencies that believe in political espionage, attempting to put their thumb on the scale for the election. it s not crazy that hillary clinton and the clinton campaign are not super psyche body that in this moment. why does he deny what s been established? why does trump lose credibility by saying this didn t come from russia? it was inexplicable. it was russia and the u.s. intelligence agencies say it was russia. it is fact checkable. the active measures by the ffb, otherwise known as wikileaks is a very dangerous cyber a pack on the united states. the argument to be made by republicans is cyber attacks against opm, cyber attacks against the department of defense, which occur every day, cyber attacks against sony pictures v n pictu pictures have not been responded to, from the meddle in tiddle ef he proposes and i think he s very wrong that we will right this mess by dealing with russia as a great power from the zarast area, as opposed from the soviet union, it is an argument to be made and i think democrats have to deal with the fact for eight years we have not defended the infrastructure or resem believing to allow us to respond to national security. i think we re having a good debate here. thank you, hugh, and joy. you guys have to leave. we re doing a little rotation. any way, you re bringing defense and offense. we re platooning. up next, much more republican reaction, the big news donald trump made here tonight, his refusal to say he would accept the election. he s going to keep us in suspense, again, alfred hitchco hitchcock. live from las vegas for the final presidential debate. every time donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is, is rigged against him. trump university gets sued for fraud and racketeering, he claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. there was even a time when he didn t get an emmy for his tv program three years in a row and he started tweeting that emmys were rigged against him. should have gotten. every time i travel, it s the moments that are most rewarding. because if you let yourself embrace them, you ll never forget them. the new marriott portfolio of hotels now has 30 brands in over 110 countries. so no matter where you go, you are here. join or link accounts at members.marriott.com. sureor put themhave ston a rack.e tires. but the specialists at ford like to show off their strengths: 13 name brands. all backed by our low price tire guarantee. yeah, we re strong when it comes to tires. right now during the big tire event, get a $140 rebate by mail on four select tires. 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(1940s aqua music) (burke) and we covered it, february third, twenty-sixteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we ve seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum i want to ask you here on the stage tonight, do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely sir, that i will absolutely accept the result of this election? i will look at it at the time. i m not looking at anything now. i ll look at it at the time. what i ve seen what i ve seen is so bad first of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt and the pylon is so amazing that new york times actually wrote an article about it but they don t even care. it s so dishonest and they ve poisoned the minds of the voters, but unfortunately for them, i think the voters are seeing through it. i think they re going to see through it. we ll find out on november 8th, but i think they re going to see through it. welcome back to hardball on the most stunning moment of tonight s debate, donald trump refused commitment to accept the results of the november election and here s what he said when moderator chris wallace pressed him further. sir, there is a tradition in this country, in fact one of the prides of this country, is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign, that the loser concedes to the winner not saying you re necessarily going to be the loser or the winner but the loser concedes to the winner and that country comes together in part for the good of the country, are you saying you re not prepared now to commit to that principle? what i m saying is i ll tell you at the time, i ll keep you in suspense. let me respond to that because that s horrifying trump s refusal in spat of wh spite of what his own running mate and daughter have said. here s mike pence. will you accept the results of the election? we will absolutely accept the results of the election. the american people will speak in an election that ll cucullm election legitimate, on the basis of 08, when they said in both of those times, president obama was an illegitimate candidate for president, so there s elections in arrow, he s threatening to delegitimize. it is a pattern, and leads to the suggestion that robert costa will not value the election results. pretty scary stuff. it wasn t just what he said that was shocking, it was the way he said it. there was a casual contempt in donald trump s voice for 225 years of american political tradition. donald trump is a force for chaos. he always has been. if he can t taking some and win something himself, he will destroy that thing and make it impossible for other people to have it. what he s what he s really doing tonight among other things, in addition to challenging the whole system, is saying that if i can t have the presidency, i m going to make it nate worth hillary s time to have it. that s what he s doing. and this will have global i am the global editor. this is top news around the world already. the legitimacy of the american election is something that is not only prized in america, it s prized around the world, because it s a symbol of stability and strength of the world s super power and the light of light of nations. and he s putting that under threat. let s talk about the washington post yesterday, he s a very hawkish guy. he laid out a whole speculative theory this is what vladimir putin wants. yep. he wants to have sort of a mood in this country in the various parts of the old soviet union and to break this thing up and blame the government for a corrupt election and say we were secur secured out of it he wants to get even because he thinks we did that in the part of the of the soviet union against him. he has this dream of restoring and to blame us. you have to realize what putin s government has been doing is stoking these right-wing movements what s that group? you kip the sort of the new version of kgb, so new kgb, fsb in russia has been using all of these sort of undermining tactics to try to stoke right-wing movements all across europe and it s had a really detabd destabilizing across the continent. they did it in ukraine. i think they re trying to find democratic equality equivalence across the globes. we have problems with our elections, and their elections are joy and i were discussing this actually before, and when i came on, chris, i stand corrected. i was right that this is about something bigger. i was wrong that it is something so small as a television network. they have much grander ambitions. who s they? steve bannon, the people behind donald trump. why do you see nijel farage, at all the spin rooms? i think they see potential for a movement that in some ways transsends our borders. how they keep it a lie by denying the results of the election? it s multipronged. this is a moment a critical moment of educated republicans who care about our democracy to put aside party and to start speaking out and i think we re starting to see the seeds of that tonight on twitter. i think we re starting to see the seeds of that with responsible republicans like marco rubio saying of course the election is not rigged and we need to stand together something that began as a reality show spec ctacle we all a mused by it has mo morphed. arizona senator jeff flake tweeted donald trump tweeted he might not accept the election results is beyond the pail. south carolina republican senator lindsey graham, like most americans vicon fiddence in our democracy and election system, during this debate mr. trump is doing the party a great disservice. if he loses it will not be because the system is rigged, but because he failed as a candidate. ben, you wanted to correct something about we talked about earlier with regard to the rnc s position. first of all a real politic observation is what donald trump s remarks will do. we ll ha will have the exact opposite of what he s intended. he s given the democrats a terrific get out the vote mechanism to make more democrats who are not enthusiastic about hillary clinton and will increase democratic turnout. but in terms of what we talked about earlier on the air, the rnc doing a voter fraud program, that is not true. i ve been told by the top council for both the campaign and the rnc, that rnc is abiding by the decent decrease and it is not the least bit involved in poll-watching programs. what do you think reince priebus will say, because i don t think he s spoken out yet, about trump nonaccepting? i talked to him. i caught him afterwards. he was trying to beat it out of the spin room, if you can imagine, and he was trying to convince us that this is nothing more than just a preemptive positioning that in case the difference happens to be by about one electoral vote or something minor this is a hair-race, you know, that donald trump wants to reserve that option and he said trust me, that s all this is. then i got kellyanne conway and it was a different what i want to see is is not just reince priebus not trying to get out of the room, and lindsey graham, the usual suspects on matters trump, i want to hear fromimi mitch mcconnell, especially mitch mcconnell who considers himself a states man and somebody who respects the integrity of the system. i want to hear from them tonight. mitch mcconnell, these other going to be looking at 2018, and if donald trump, looks as if he ll be defeated, his voters, this fashion he s whipped up on the republicans, they ll still be there in their districts and their states and the fear of them is where i think mcconnell is silent, the fear of them is why rubio and reince howard, look, the point is, is that it s important for mitch mcconnell and paul ryan to have the legitimacy of the votes accepted because they re candidates to the u.s. senate and the u.s. house in and tight races need the results. let s hear him saying. i m going to watch the and see when they do. i said that tonight i hope they do. if toomy wins a squeaker in our state, it s likely to say he one. that s right. sticking around with us for a little more, you re watching hardball live in las vegas for the final presidential debate. we thought fibers that help you stay regular then we switched to mirafiber. only mirafiber supports regularity with dailycomfort fiber. and is less likely to cause. unwanted gas. finally. switch to mirafiber. from the makers of miralax. [chains dragging] [eerie music playing] [crickets chirping] [owl hoots] announcer: if you don t fix them, sparks from dragging tow chains can cause a wildfire. and that could be scary. bye, smokey! only you can prevent wildfires. fight heartburn fast. with tums chewy delights. the mouthwatering soft chew that goes to work in seconds to conquer heartburn fast. tum tum tum tum. chewy delights. only from tums. i will stand up for families against powerful interests, against corporations, i will do everything that i can to make sure that you have good jobs with rising incomes, that your kids have good educations from preschool through college. i hope you will give me a chance to serve as your president. that was like a candidate s night in a regular debate, as if we had a regular debate tonight. welcome back to hardball live in las vegas for what was the final debate. tonight, donald trump again denied all the accounts of numerous women who have accused-im sexual misconduct and he said the clinton campaign was to blame for those women coming forward. here s trump and clinton s response. the stories are all totally false. i have to say that. and i didn t even apologize to my wife, who is sitting right here, because i didn t do anything. i didn t know any of these women. i didn t see these women. these women, the woman on the plane, the woman i think they want either fame or her campaign did it. donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger. he goes after their dignity, their self-worth, and i don t think there is a woman anywhere who doesn t know what that feels like. so we now know what donald thinks and what he says and how he acts towards women. that s who donald is. richard nixon in the old days i gave them the sword. hillary knows how to do this, she s a woman, and she just says we now know who this guy is, his soul has captured this election. we don t give hillary clinton enough credit for her expert way that she bates donald trump, calling him donald, reminding him about the things he said about women. why does it irritate donald trump? that rich people in manhattan looked down on him, when he was a rich kid for queens he wasn t up to their snuff. i ve heard the same story of people who lived him in palm beach and makes people call him mr. trump, and this idea that he can call you by your first name, but you c t dot to him. look at chris christie, who he debates by making him call him mr. trump. and needling him. you re making he like him. there s always a group of finding a way of rejecting anybody coming up. george wallace did the same thing. it s not about race. it s about groups social circles, catillions, the palm beach crowd. george wallace said the same thing. whenever somebody said you re not you up to snuff it bothers them. he dismissed them on the topic of women, the very top of republican strategists told me earlier today on the way in here, that thing that really damaged donald trump ultimately was not just the accusations credible accusations from all the women, but donald trump s answer, when donald trump said, essentially those women aren t good enough looking for me to want to hit on them, and this republican said that that response was what really, really damaged him damaged him and hillary baited him into it and hillary went after it tonight. they must have poll tested it because that response was as bad as the original accusation. it sounds like he s saying if you can t contest for miss universe, you re not really he was also in directly admitting it. i think one of the most notable moments for women s perspective was that that off the cuff remark that you re a nasty woman. because it s moments like that when all american women have flashbacks to their own moments of being dismissed or insulted simply for asserting yourself or stating a position that is not controversial or even personal and it invites that kind of misogynistic response. his history s doing just that. she did but they trade a lot of stuff like that in the debate. it wasn t anything nasty woman, that was nasty woman. and the keyword, excuse my ignorance, but the keyword is woman. he s not saying you re a nasty person by saying you re a nasty woman, he s tying it to jegende and it res resinated with wo these are first-time moments. chris, there are more of them in this election by a factor of several hundred than any we ve ever covered. there s are moments in history we wish never happened. thank you. we ll give you more next time. when we come back, what happens in vegas, doesn t stay in vegas. we re going to find out what a top vegas odds maker is saying about his presidential race, and this is hardball live from unlv with the final presidential debate. i hope you like eating frozen dinners. alone. let s try this again. smart move. because buzzed driving is drunk driving. geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. for one late night edition of hardball. we ve got a couple more minutes. since we re in sin city, if you will, why don t we look at the odds in this presidential election. jimmy vacaro joins me now to go over both hillary clinton and donald trump s chances. can you make any money betting on hillary now? no, you can t make it here obviously because you can t we can t take bets here. an ex-caliber. a few of the offshore places and the european places are offering insurance money to buy back half the bet if you bet on hillary because they think she s going to be the winner. right now she s a 6 to 1 favorite. when you wake up tomorrow, she ll be at the same odds everywhere. the needle didn t move anywhere. i want to give somebody some help here. you can get some money if you bet a different spread on hillary, 0 to 5, it s got to be above 0. if you go for the spread you can make some money here. you can go for the spread if you have a lot of money because if you put up a lot of money. 6 to 1, you d have to put up $6,000 to win $1,000. say it s hillary by 10%, are you going to make some money? no, chris, it s been fluctuating greatly since the beginning of summer when the republican convention in july was, he had such a good convenience, the odds went way down. now naturally since mr. trump has stepped into some potholes in the last 30 days that has shot up at 8 to 1 in some of the books in english. ov money was bet on hillary clinton. when people make a bet that s 4 to 1 or 5 to 1, 5 1/2 to 1, what are they thinking, god s going do this for me? why does somebody think they re going to win a 6 in 1? i m the only person who booked tyson on a 27 to 1 favorite. thousands of dollars came in on tyson and went up 42 to 1. we made a mint at the mirage that time, but remember he lost the fight. a 42 to 1 favorite lost the fight so we don t know who is going to win this election, trust me, no one knows donald needs a double off the wall to keep the game going. why don t they allow political betting? federal law, it s been that way forever and even the gaming commission, we can t even do local or state elections. it s going to be a long time after we re gone. i had one bet, that s crazy that may go either way. that does it for the live coverage tonight from las vegas. if you missed the debate, stick around, you can catch the whole final debate in its entirety right now. good night. you need without the unnecessary additives you don t. store manager: clean up, aisle 4. alka-seltzer plus liquid gels. the image on the surface book, transports you into the world which is our main goal as animators and you can actually touch the screen. you can t do that on a mac. even if you re trying your best. along with diet and exercise, once-daily toujeo® may help you control your blood sugar. get into a daily groove. let s groove tonight. share the spice of life. baby, from the makers of lantus®, slice it right. toujeo® provides blood sugar-lowering activity for 24 hours and beyond, we re gonna groove tonight. proven blood sugar control all day and all night, and significant a1c reduction. toujeo® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don t use toujeo® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar or if you re allergic to insulin. allergic reaction may occur and may be life threatening. don t reuse needles or share insulin pens, even if the needle has been changed. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be serious and life threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily. injection site reactions may occur. don t change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all your medical conditions. taking tzds with insulins, like toujeo®, may cause heart failure that can lead to death, even if you ve never had heart failure before. don t dilute or mix toujeo® with other insulins or solutions as it may not work as intended and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious. find your rhythm and keep on grooving. let s groove tonight. ask your doctor about toujeo®. share the spice of life.
house. this is picture for that meeting. and for the second straight day the dow bounced on wall street. truly an unprecedented thick and it runs completely counter to many of the prognostications out there before. yet another record today after donald trump s win. michelle kosinski is outfront at the white house. michelle, the moment today of this meeting so many people thought 24e8d never see barack obama and donald trump meet, never mind as president and president elect at the white house. maybe even not the two people at the meeting. and tonight outside the white house more protests but inside today it was all about reassurance and everybody on their best behavior. what was so fascinating about this, on the one hand you have this incredibly organized transition process with handshakes and good wishes on all sides. but then on the other, you have this intense bitterness from the campaign trail. and today the white house didn t really hold back in saying that i have great respect. the meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half. and it could have as far as i m concerned it could have gone on for a lot longer. we really we discussed a lot of different situations. some wonderful and some difficulties. i very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future, including counsel. when asked the white house press secretary said all those warnings from president obama on the campaign trail about trump, that he s dangerous, unqualified, still hold. does the president now have any reason to believe that donald trump is fit to be president of the united states? again, i m not gonna if two men did not relitigate their differences in the oval office. trump s next stop, capitol hill. meetings with leadership. the tone here equally welcoming, putting deep differences aside, for now. more affordable and better. reporter: an impending rolling back of as many of president obama s policies as possible. but the white house couldn t talk about that today, saying essentially what will be will be. america has chosen. my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president elect is successfulal. ending it all with a joking reminder with one leader to the next, not to take question interests the press. thank you guys. we re not going to be taking any questions. that s good rule. don t answer any questions when their [indiscernible] very good man. well the not only how these two feel about each other but also the fact that donald trump has vowed many times to roll back president obama s policies. is a key job as chief of staff. the other person is a reince priebus. he s also been very integral in trump s world. running the ground population that got donald trump elected. he s been also very personally involved. i m told their bond isn t necessarily as close but certainly much closer than people think. and i m also told by people around washington erin that he would be a consensus choice. knows washington and the republicans on the hill. helping get many of them elected. so that is a choice. and probably the first and most important choings because it is the most personal. dana, thank you very much. and outfront tonight. reince priebus. chairman of the republican national committee. thank you for being with us tonight. i know you are doing this on very little sleep if any. we re told you have spoken to trump about a position in his administration. how did that conversation go? no that is not the case. we don t i m not involved in that. nobody is talking about those things. and so our focus right now is just making sure we re wrapping up the committee work and then, you know, making sure that the transition goes smoothly and so that he can be well equipped come january. and he will be. donald trump does give you a lot of credit for his win. at that moment when the world was watching him give his victory speech. he talked about you. here is what he said. i ll tell you, reince is really a star. and he s the hardest working guy we understand and i know you are saying you haven t talked about it with him. but you are on the list. steve bannon is on the list for trump s chief of staff. if offered would you take that job? do you even want it? i don t i don t to even talk achbbout it. the truth is i m in my job right now, erin. i m chairman of the rnc. it is an important role we play at the national party. and it was a great victory. but those great victories only happen with a great candidate. i m proud of her mechanics and data and i think it is unprecedented. i think it is unbelievable what this committee did. but none of those unbelievable things work if you have a bad candidate. so it always starts with a great candidate. and the other thing it starts with is you have to have a candidate that is flowing with the river. in other words the momentum, the mood of the electorate has to flow with the candidate. all of those things lined up, which is why, you know, i think the media narrative was just so far off on what americans were thinking about the choices they had in front of them. president obama and president elect trump were supposed to meet today for ten minutes. as, you know, that was the schedule. were you surprised after all the and let s just be honest here, frankly horrible things they said about each other that that meeting lasted han hour and a half? no i m not surprised and i ll tell you why. i ve seen president trump in meetings one on one or meetings and things had to be patched up. and people have to get to know each other. he didn t get to where he is. and now he s president elect in the united states. in his business deals, i guarantee you there are all kind of problems he s dealt with. blowout arguments permits or buildings or whatever. he ll walk into a meeting. and people will say this is a gracious personable guy. he s a hard guy not to like, especially in meetings like that. so i m not surprised. do you know what they talked about? have you had a chance to talk to donald trump about it? i talked to him briefly today when he swung through the rnc. but we obviously i wasn t downloading on details with him. but i m sure it was very positive and the reports are indicative of that. you know, bernie sanders today talked about donald trump on cnn. i wanted to play for you part of what e said. the election is over. donald trump won. i intend to work with president trump. i will vigorously oppose him if he appeals to racism or sexism or some of the other discriminatory measures that he brought up during his campaign. reince you have seen the protests. they are out there again on the streets tonight protests against trump s presidency. does he need to. does he feel he should reach out to these people explicitly and assuage their fears? well erin yesterday morning keep in mind donald trump spoke to the american people, just yesterday morning. and when he was getting ready for that speech, it was nothing about bragging about the election, nothing about continuing the rhetoric, the political rhetoric that was that was indicative of a political campaign. it was all about coming together, leading all americans no matter battleground, race, ethnicity, gender, whatever the case is. and it was donald trump that led. and it was him that decided this is the direction to go. let s bring people together. let s cool the water. so this is how it is going to be from now. that is what he did. it wasn t a speech nartd wloer said read this speech. no he sat down and made sure it was the right speech at the right time. and just yesterday morning, his sitting down with 90 minutes with the president. is another indicator. people should look at. here is a person who just won the presidency. and he s sitting down having a 90 minute conversation should have been 10 with the president and she s working hard and showing the country he s working hard to move the country forward. but i would say the agenda americans were in favor of was an agenda that the republican party, meaning our candidate, including president elect trump, house and senate candidates put on the table. the other part of this is that we have an obligation then to pursue the promises that we made in t in the campaign that people voted for. they voted and said yes we with want those things to be done in washington. so those things will be done. we don t have a mandate to water down our promises. we have a mandate to perform the things that we promised. so a wall banni, banning mus immigration from that s not the promise that is not the position he laid out. and this has now been since june that he gave that speech. i believe to either the american leagues or vfw. in june he said his position is if the country is harbor b terrorists in the risk of the security of the united states that he would take member to suspend those immigration visas until a better vetting system is in place. that is consistent with many bills in the house and senate. and it is what donald trump s position is. so if the media wants to go back now. not you in particular erin, but if if media wants to go back now and stir the pot and now claim he want this is muslim ban that he s made it clear through a three disabilities through june that this was not his position. it would do us all a favor if the media would get together and quit stirring the pot he did say it originally. and i donald trump and then it is going to be certain countries. and then countries that harbor terrorists. those what are those countries? is that nothing to do with being muslim at all? he s got to iron out very completely what he meant because he made it very clearly about religion. he said repeatedly that there is no religious test. and for you all to be coming back and relitigating something that was that is now five months old is what the problem is in our country. the problem is we ve got to fill 24 hours a day, 7 days a week of cable stations that create these issues that don t exist, and then turn people against each other. if the media is so interested in america coming together, then they ought to do their job and quit stirring the pot where it should belong. do you think reince that he also carry answer obligation? you have muslims in this country who are worried. they are afraid. they are afraid of what will happen and they are afraid of what erin i ve talked to ceos in other countries who are worried about this. isn t this incumbent on donald trump to come out and be very clear and the leader e rrin, listen. i think you are very good but i m very surprised that this is the conversation we re having. yesterday morning, yesterday morning, he just gave a speech about americans coming together. and you are asking me now on thursday whether he needs to do another i mean, i m not sure what you are asking for. he s the president for all americans. he s made that very clear. we re making it clear. and to go back to, you know, old issues when they have been asked over and over again and have been answer by president elect trump, people need to understand that he understands. i promise you. i know where his head and heart is at. and he said it. so just trust his own words. he ll be a president for all american, republican, democrat, independent, any religion, any faith. he s your president and he s going do the he s going to do a fantastic job and he understands the gravity and the seriousness of the position. reince priebus. thank you very much. appreciate your time tonight. thank you erin. and new tonight donald and melania trump are back in new york tonight. melania trump spent the morning with the first lady, michelle obama and this is a picture of the first meeting, the two having tea, after one of the ugliest presidential campaigns in recent history. suzanne malveaux is out fror ou at the white house. reporter: one thing to talk about your kids. safe territory. a good ice breaker. that is exactly what michelle obama as well as melania trump did. you might recall, sasha and malia were quite young. and it is melania trump whose concerned. very protective of her 10-year-old son baron. so that is something they share. this is very different than what their husbands experienced today. no cameras not. press. we have one photo from the white house press office. all smiles. we are told that it started off with a tour of the residence. and went to the truman balcony. that as you know erin the place where the first lady and barack obama, the president, spending a lot of quality time there. so it is a special place for them. they took them there. and also melania was shown taken to the state floor in the white house to meet with the curator of the white house. that is bill almond. and he really is a human encyclopedia for all things inside of the building. and so she got a tour and she also got a lot of ideas about the white house looks like. the public space as well as the private space. and all of this as you know really meant to give them an opportunity, a chance to break the ice here in light of a very bitter campaign. this was with michelle obama saying quite publicly, quite forcefully making her case that she did not believe melania s husband was fit for the office and also followed the rnc convention where we saw melania introduce her husband but also seemingly take a portion from her speech very similar to michelle obama s in 2008. so there is a lot of fodder there for both of they want. but the white house says this is just the first of many meetings, erin. all right. thank you very much suzanne. a meeting would have been great to be a fly on the wall in both meetings. joining us now our panel. we ll see who ends up being the chief of staff. let s start with what you just saw. the michelle obama and melania trump meeting. symbolic moment but obviously very cordial. both of these meetings between donald trump and the president and melania trump and michelle obama. this is good for the american people to see. because it does represent i turning the page. going away from this nasty campaign where everyone said mean things about each other. now we re moving forward. it is the hallmark of the united states t peaceful transition of power. and it is heartening no see them talking to each other like civil humans. and let s because if anybody wouldn t be able to talk to each other likes civil human, it might be these two people given what they have said in the past. and yet they were so gracious to each other today. here are some of the things they had to say about each other. my priority is my son barron our son barron. i m a full time mother to our son barron. at the end of the day my most important title is still mom in chief. actually that wasn t the sound bite i was looking for. but phillip, you know they do have obviously having in common. michelle and melania trump. but let me play what i wanted to play which is president obama and president elect donald trump saying such nice things about each other today. i have been very encouraged by the, i think, interest in president elect trump s wanting to work with my team. mr. president, it was a great honor being with you. and i look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. very good man. thank you guys. heartening things to hear. heartening image and hopefully healing for americans who are so divided right now. amazing picture because donald trump sitting in front of a bust of martin luther king j.r. it is a peaceful transition of power. i do think it seemed like he was a little nervous and understandably so. the weight of this job is going to be tremendous. and i think in that 90 minute time period donald trump got an understanding of just how important this road is going to be. i want to ask on the issue that came up in reince priebus and my conversation about the in this case it was about how donald trump would treat muslims. but there are other groups in this country who are also concerned. does donald trump need to speak to these people? some of whom are protesting now. and say if his policies have changed, how and why? does he need to talk to them david? yes i think he does. i don t think he needs do it immediately. and you have to say both he and president obama have given an excellent tone for the transition. gives us many you have more assurance about how the transition itself will be conducted. there are going to be issues that come up in the next few days. if trump names steve bannon as his chief of staff you are going to hear a lot of flurry about that one. but beyond that, i think that over time he does need to reach out. he ll have a couple of speeches coming up i m sure public remarks where he can say some of those things. but ify if he were more proactive and call people in and talk to them. that is the kind of smart thing. you sometimes needs to do things that are a little daring in order to get attention and people say yeah okay i get it. should he do that jeffrey? call? have a meeting with whatever group it may be. muslim americans. muslim leaders in this country. zrump a good leader. he s a good executive. the donald trump you saw there is the donald trump that i know and so many of his friends and the people who work for him now. skpoi totally expect him to be doing this. that said i want to say something about the protests here. i have the gray hair for a reason. and it is because at my age i have seen i ve grown up. and in my lifetime i have seen. and i m sure some of these are the same people in the streets over vietnam. there were a million people in the streets protesting ronald reagan s nuclear policy. they are demanding nuclear free. carrying paper ma shay heads and saying it is not a movie ron. they do the this all the time. they are going to do this to donald trump. they did it to poor hubert humphrey in chicago. some of these people are not going to change because it is their profession. this is not vanity. that is reaction to real concerns. we may not remember exactly everything donald trump said during the course of the campaign but we ll remember how we felt. whether it is the muslim community, whether it is african americans being concerned about the reintroduction of stop and frisk. whether it is the immigrant community broadly. i think there is real anger and concern. look, the tone on tuesday night and told have been great. so the question then becomes is he going to be the person that is welcoming to all these communities and let people know that he is going to be the president for everyone? i was in the protests last nights. i was watching your twitter feed. it was young people. promptly young women who are concerned about donald trump not because they are concerned about donald trump s policies. they are concerned about donald trump as donald trump. and donald trump cannot sit down with a woman and make that go away. he needs to demonstrate other the next four years he s doing 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character: why are you texting my man at 2 a.m.? no. if you want someone to leave you alone, you pretend like you re sleeping. it s what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it s what you do. tv character: taking selfies in the kitchen does not make you a model. people saw an incredibly painful moment for her. how did she seem to you? honestly i think she seemed as well as anybody could be expected after, you know, such a crazy, crazy experience. i can t speak to how she was feeling on the inside. but she couldn t have seemed any nicer or kinder and gracious to me. you know, i think it was a very dark day for a lot of people yesterday. so this was a very hopeful encouraging moment for me. and that is really why i posted the picture at all. and bill clinton i know was there margo. he s not in the picture. he took the picture actually. all right. thank you so much. i appreciate you taking the time margo. and there are many who were very eager to see this picture. and thank you for sharing it. thank you. i hope it makes people feel hopeful and comforted. that is really why i posted it. thank you. thank you so much. we re learning more tonight about what the clinton campaign thinks went so wrong versus what they expected. obviously she was out in the woods with bill taking a walk today. and she posed for that pitcher. life goes on. it has to. and the fact they are hiking in the woods. but i think, you know, to that woman s point, seeing a lot of hillary clinton supporters in my facebook feed and on twitter, i think a lot of women especially just wanted to give her a hug. so hearing that, that this women did that, i think she spoke for a lot of folks out there who are upset. and there are. there are tens of millions of them when you look at the vote here. that is how this country s split. and better the donald trump loss. and the other way around as well. and the new york times is reporting that hillary clinton privately is admitting she stepped in when he did something that . she said deplorables. let me just play exactly what she said. to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of trump s supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. right? the racists, sexists, homophobic, zxenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. and unfortunately there are people like that. is that something a lot of people heard. pollsters didn t pick it up and that over the summer could have started to turn that rust belt away from her. i don t know if that is the issue. i do think she believes it was a m misbecause she said so right afterwards. i don t think that in and itself was the issue. i do believe that the way in which she characterized some of donald trump s comments, i think that those are things over the course of time we ve seen and i ve rashed about it. and others have remarked about it. but i think she was particularly contrite o about that and admitted it off the bat. i think the e-mails themselves and the stories about the e-mails that have been fed into the narrative was difficult to over come be. do you think that this actually influenced people. i think it did. and i want to in a partial sense defend hillary clinton here. i think she really believes that but she is not alone right and the things she added. i went back a looked at the speech she had at wesley when she graduated and it has similarities. when i was a wanna beliberal in college. and i began to pick up this the contempt which i believe american liberalism has come to exemplify. and that little statement from her is a snapshot. i totally convinced she really believes it. and more to the point t people that were in the room laughing all agree. ed think you take it a lit too far. they say that liberals have a contempt with the working class which so many of us and to be able to say that she herself has that kind of contempt i think is stretching that comment moral of the story is talk about the candidate. 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replace obamacare. a difficult task over such a polarizing issue. obama making an appeal to voters while campaigning for hillary clinton. 20 million americans have health insurance that didn t visit before. but make no mistake, all that progress goes down the drain if we don t win tomorrow. democrats in congress plan to fight tooth and nail to save the sweeping law. if we re going to repeal and replace we need to replace with something that doesn t take healthcare away or insurance away from 20 million people. but goppers say voters expect them to do away with healthcare. let s say every single republican thought obamacare was a mistake. without exception. that s still our view. and you can expect us with a new president who has the same view to address that issue. reporter: passing a replacement bill could take up to two years erin. the entire during of congress. that is if they get democratic support. and in the meantime as the obama administration leaves office they are redoubling 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price in serving our country. we can answer that question tomorrow resoundingly yes, absolutely! think about how generations of americans throughout our history have come together to meet the tests of their time, our parents, our grandparents, our great grandparents defended democracy. they built the great american middle class. they marched for civil rights and voting rights for workers rights and women s rights. for lgbt rights an the rights of people with disabilities. and tomorrow we face the test of our time. so remember, it s not just my name or donald trump s name on the ballot, it s the kind of in you believe we need to reform our criminal justice system so everyone is treated fairly, then you have to vote. and if you believe if you believe we should never write discrimination in to our laws [ cheers and applause ] well then, you know, you know, north carolina, you have to vote to get rid of hp-2. now, this is so energizing, we could keep going with a long i want to thank gaga because she s always stood for that fundamental principle of respecting everybody. [ cheers and applause ] i want you to know and spread the word, i do want to be president for all americans, not just some, not just the people who support me and vote for me. i want to be president for everyone because we all have a role to play in building that better future for our country and for each of you. so if you haven t voted yet, go to iwillvote.com. you will get all the info you need an you can still sign up to volunteer, right? go to hillary clinton.com or text join jo-o-i-n and we will welcome you to help make sure everyone gets out to vote tomorrow. because none of us want to wake up wednesday morning and wish we had done more, right? years from today when your kifds and grand kids ask what you did in 2016 when everything was on the line, you ll be able to say you voted for a stronger, fairer, better america. an america where we build bridges, not walls. and where we prove conclusively that yes love trumps hate. thank you. thank you so much, north carolina. god bless you. thank you all. [ cheers and applause ] there you have it, folks. if you can believe it this may be the last time that you hear from candidate trump and candidate clinton before one of them is president elect. welcome to our cnn special live coverage of this historic election. this is it, the big finale to the most brutal campaign in recent memory. i want to welcome our viewers here at home and around the world. i m poppy harlow in new york. it is just past 1:00 in the morning and for hillary clinton and donald trump it is a late-night fight for every single last vote. both candidates wrapping up duelling rallies. trump in michigan and north carolina. we have our reporters across the country and around the world for you as only cnn can do. as we count down the final hours until you go to the polls. start with phil mattingly in raleigh, north carolina. the final words, phil, love trump hate. here we are, the final words. it is interesting. that s a message that hillary clinton has had for a while. she shifted her message today, deliberately shifted her message today. take a listen to this. basically the point here is that hillary clinton for the last couple of weeks has been trying to tear down donald trump and his candidacy. that stopped today. today it is about the future and looking forward in to an optimistic candidacy and how to most importantly govern should she win tonight. it s a big moment for the clinton campaign to make that shift, to transition away from the constant trump attack. it s one her advisers tell me is a deliberate choice. that s how good they feel about where they are in the race but also the recognition about how damaging the race has been and the healing process it s going to take over the next couple of weeks. poppy? phil, tell us about the crowd. obviously it is big, as is donald trump s crowd tonight. i saw a lot of young people. she talked a lot about college and making it tuition free. who was she trying to target tonight, trying to get undecided voters in a state that is so critical for her and in a state where the early data on the early voting there doesn t look particularly strong for her. this is her second time in raleigh in five days and there s two good reasons for that. she is son the campus of nc state. the crowd is packed with college kids. we walked in and it was to capacity and there was a line 20 blocks around the campus. that s what the campaign wants to see. you nailed why. this is the purest of pure tossup states. you talk to clinton adviser and field staff. they have no idea how this will go. they feel okay about things. they felt they recovered in the early vote but this is a pure tossup that s why the message was dedicated to millennial voters today. these are the people clinton knows she needs to get out if the wants to win the state tomorrow. you heard the president pleading with the people of north carolina saying if you come out for clinton you will be what decides this election. that s right. you have seen surrogates all over the place make that point. in florida, nevada, a number of different states, in michigan most recently. it s been here where you nailed it talking about the early vote. those numbers were not where they wanted them to be. there s a number of reasons you could say that, particularly in the african-american vote and it s worth noting. there s been a recovery in the african-american vote over the last couple of days in early voting but a lot of ground to make up. mitt romney won the state in 2012. democrats need to flip this state and need millennial and hispanic and black voters to do just that. it did go for president obama in 2008. as you said anything can happen h. phil mattingly live in raleigh. thank you so much. we want you to listen to part of donald trump. he just wrapped up perhaps his last campaign speech tonight in michigan. let s listen. michigan now stands at the cross roads of history. when you step in to that voting booth today it s now today, there s one core question for you to consider do you want america to be ruled by the corrupt political class or do you want america to be ruled by you, the people? donald trump in michigan, a state that he thinks he can take out of democrats hands. we ll see if he can do that and crack in to the blue wall. we will see tomorrow when you go to the polls. in the meantime, the first in-prn election ballots cast in the town of dixville notch. who won? it is a tradition that dates back to 1960 when voters went for kennedy so, who won? well, poppy, the ballots were cast. the votes were tallied. clinton getting four votes. trump getting two. johnson getting one and one of the dixville notch residents wrote in mitt romney. so there you have it here in dixville notch, clinton is beating trump but you know, poppy, i have to point out, dixville notch is not the only town that participates in the midnight voting tradition. there is millsfield and there is a quirky law in new hampshire that says if a town has less than 100 people they can close the polls once the registered voters have voted. poppy, i ll point out that collectively in these three towns that participate in midnight voting here in new hampshire trump is beating hillary clinton. trump getting 32 votes and hillary clinton having 25. team clinton, rachel, paying attention to tiny dixville notch tonight, one of the advisers tweeting they like the outcome. yes, tweeting out they were happy about it. i m sorry. writing clinton campaign feeling very good about election day results thus far. they have a few more votes that need to be cast, though. that s right. he sent the tweet before those votes were tallied in harts location and millsfield. it is a coveted spot to wind, dixville notch s vote here. they are right in being proud of it but as i pointed out, trump is beating hillary right now in the polls that have been tallied on election day 2016 in new hampshire right now. new hampshire is again a really important state for both of them this time around. it could go either way. rachel, thank you very much. it s been leading up to this. it is officially election day in america. can you believe it? we will have every race and every result. stay with cnn until the last vote is cast. all-day live coverage today. election day in america right here on cnn. coming up, trump s campaign manager said he has six paths to victory. we will take you to the states that could prove critical. our nick valencia live tonight in florida. florida is perhaps the most critical of them all with 29 electoral votes in the balance. coming up after the break, we will break down the historic turnout in the state of florida. you are watching cnn s special election night coverage. as they swim out of the path and the seagulls they ll be smilin and the rocks on the sand. it s so peaceful up here. yeah. 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this is huge news, poppy, for the latino community. we have long expected the sleeping giant to make a difference. historic vote you are turnout not just in florida but across the country. here in florida specifically they could prove to be the most crucial the most critical swing state in the country. the break down here, you have older cubans who are more establishment republicans at odds with the younger cubans who could vote republican, adding to the complexities, you have thousands of newly arrived puerto ricans to the middle of the state. the i-4 corridor which is the most purple part of the state. you mentioned it has eclipsed the number tw in 2000. putting in to context in the last 16 years, you have 3 million newly arrived residents. that has to do with historic voter turnout. they know the significance of the state and have spent a lot of time here in florida rally. hillary clinton here with joe biden and attacking this character of donald trump. both expect to went this critical state. they both expect and want it and need those 29 electoral votes. nick, thank you so much. let s go to pennsylvania. they are getting a lot of love in the keystone state in the final day of the 2016 election. both hillary clinton and donald trump stumping there on election eve in full get out the vote mode. there s no early voting in pennsylvania. so locking in the 20 electoral votes there comes down to today. that s why they were both there today hillary clinton bringing with her president obama, first lady, former president clinton, her husband to the stage. and bon jovi and the boss. thunder road thunder road sara sidner is with us in philadelphia. where do i begin with those big name surrogates? who do you think made the most impact on the stage stumping for clinton? it s hard to say but every time michelle obama speaks she gets this loudest cheers although her husband did as well. what you are hearing her is introducing herself to the crowd, as if they needed it and then sounds like she is trying to hand the baton over to hillary clinton hoping that hillary clinton will walk in her husband s footsteps. so i m honored to be here on the stage on the eve of this historic moment. i m also emotional because in many ways speaking here tonight is perhaps the last and most important thing that i can do for my country as first lady. let me take a moment to thank you, to thank the people of this country for giving our family the extraordinary honor of serving as your first family. huge cheers from the crowd but of course the clinton campaign bringing out all of the guns, trying to make sure that people get to the polls, but trump not far behind them. he was in scranton and he s been going and burning this midnight oil to try to make sure his message gets out, even as we get in to the last few hours before the election. you are right five states for trump today alone and three for clinton. she is back on the plain to new york. trump heading back there, as well. tomorrow it is in the voters hands. sar sara sidner in philadelphia. thank you for being here. let me begin with you. good morning. five states, trump s final blitz. florida, north carolina, new hampshire, pennsylvania, many eume michigan, not ohio. he could be there right now. i think he ran out of daylight. he pushed it about as hard as he could. i am shocked by the schedule they both kept. i think i m in good shape and i m not sure i could have kept the schedule they have kept the last year. sally, hillary clinton did a radio interview and here s what she said whether or not she plans to speak to trump tonight. listen. i will certainly expect to speak with him. i hope that he will, if i am successful, play a constructive role in doing just what i said, coming together, bringing people who supported him to the table sally you want clinton to win. regardless of who wins tonight, to be a fly on the wall, to listen to that conversation, what do you hope it is like? i have to tell you, i spent the last couple of days around philadelphia with my family and my daughter. we did some door knocking to get her involved in democracy and teach her what is at stake. she is a way bigger hillary clinton supporter than i ever was and it was a tremendous, wonderful experience for the most part. i have to tell you the last day we were there, we were in a purple area of the philadelphia suburbs and, you know, not because we were just going about knocking on the doors we were told to knock but we had about five or six trump supporters approach us, approach our group with eight kids, six adults and, you know, yell at us. yell at us about how can we support pro-abortion candidate. she s a sinner. how can we support this crook. she s crooked. in front of our kids. i have to tell you having done this before in previous elections, i ve never seen that level of animosity, hostility, anger, vitriol. you hope the candidates won t be like that. i hope that if trump loses, by the way, if not i m popping xanax. if it comes to that, if he is conceding i hope he is doing it in a gracious way that says, look some of the anger, hostility, i contributed to, i m going to now heal. i m going to take an actual leadership responsibility for once in this election and i m going to put an end to that kind of anger. let s listen to the president. we heard from the first lady. let s listen to president obama in philadelphia. i m betting that men across this country will have no problem voting for the more qualified candidate who happens to be a woman. i m betting that african-americans will vote in big numbers because this journey we have been on was never about the color of the president but the content of his or her character. i m betting that america will reject politics and resentment, the politics of blame and choose the politics that says we are stronger together. taking from martin luther king jr. 56% approval right now for him. michelle obama very well liked. how much do you think, if she wins, if clinton wins the obamas in this final push have moved the needle? very important. obviously the final days as the polls have gotten narrower in many of the battleground states has turned to the issue of turnout. hillary clinton has had trouble with younger voters and african-american voters. whereas i think president obama brings a kind of fire power. 17 times he has campaigned for her. that is unheard of for a sitting president. closest was reagan and bush in 88 but even that was more tepid. usually incumbent presidents are saddled with either some scandal baggage or unpopular like president bush was in 2008. so they are away from the campaign trail. that s not been the case. almost as if he is running. aside from stumping until 1:00 in the morning, the candidates are making their message heard in the final hours. clinton and trump released these ads two minutes long but very different. here s a clip of both of them. look, we all know. we have come through some hard economic times and seen some big changes, but i believe in our people. i love this country. i m convinced our best days are still ahead of us if we reach for them together. the political establishment as brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs as they flee to mexico, china and other countries all around the world. the only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. so overall clinton had a more positive tone. donald trump saw a little at though end there but more positive and focused on progress. what do you make of the strategies in the final hour. clinton has had so many negative ads. most using trump s own words against him. by releasing this two-minute, much more positive ad tonight, a couple of hours ago, clinton trying to create a more positive energy and a reck sill toir energy, as well. donald trump said his last ad is positive. it s a bleak message about the political establishment, the global power structure. he s promising to take pow per back on behalf of the american people. he is taking his own speech and running it in these commercials. listening to your panel talk about the experience, the fear around this election, though, this is exposed some uncomfortable truths about america. donald trump and hillary clinton did not create this hyper polarization we live in. they can choose to make it worse or better later today. people want more time. they will get more time. i have to get a break in here. coming up for us, the entire world waiting for the outcome of america s election. many people, especially in mexico. that is wherelav l . we are here at the angel of independence square. this is where historically mexicans have come to gather and witness the most significant moments in the country s history and there s talk of many people flooding the streets tomorrow night if hillary clinton wins. we will have more on this coming up after the break. i got the discounts dothat you need l safe driver accident-free everybody put your flaps in the air for me go paperless, don t stress, girl i got the discounts that you need safe driver accident-free everybody put your flaps in the air for me i can t lip-synch in these conditions. savings oh, yeah whmy doctor.houldn t hamy dentist.veryday? 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you know, i haven t heard anything in the last 24 hours, but we the reality we have seen russian meddling in the election for months now. it takes no leap of faith they can continue and likely will continue to interfere. it may not be on election day, although they have potential to cause mischief on election day but i think we can expect whoever wins the election they will continue to hack and dump information if they think they can weaken the u.s. president. unless we establish a strong deterrent we are likely to see more of this from russia. we appear to have dodged a bullet. that s one of the things that concerned me up to this point is that russia was going to start to do what they have been doing in europe and that is not only hacking and dumping documents but massively forging information. that would have been difficult to prove a forgery in the last few days of the campaign. we may have dodged that bullet, but i think we are likely to see continued there is a rigged system, folks. totally rigged. absolutely rigged a crooked system. issue of voter fraud. do you believe that russia and putin have already scored a victory in this election before a seingle vote has been counted some early votes in but by making americans less confident in the system as a whole? i think they have in part achieved that objective by giving americans less confidence in the result by sowing dischord. so yes they have accomplished some of their objectives. i think it is important for me american people to realize part of the reason they have been able to do this is because they have had a willing party in donald trump. if we had a typical election where the republican standard bearer shared the views about concern of the nature of the russian government, and spoke out against russian hacking rather than inviting further hacking it would be more difficult for the russians if you didn t have someone saying the election is rigged and all of this thing. that has so played in to russian hands. it is has amplified the mischief the russians wanted to create. as you know the way that pump puts it in response to what you are arguing he said wouldn t it be a good thing if the united states got along with russia. if there was a stronger relationship between the white house and the kremlin. he said that would be more productive than what he points to as a failed russian reset on the part of hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. your response to that? my response is would it be nice, sure it would be nice but that is fantasy land. this is someone who invaded his neighbor, seized crimea. he does expect if he says something nice to putin he will leave ukraine, 0 or stop bombing civilians in aleppo, yi don t think that will happen. stop bombing nato aircraft, i don t think that will happen. so we have tried to establish a productive relationship with russia. they are not interested. part of what putin believes is in order to drive up his popularity domestically he needs a bad guy to be against and the united states is that bad guy. frankly, i think trump is naive to think that a few kind words on his part will change that. i don t think that any commander in chief of the united states should be prepared to, as trump suggested, recognize russia s illegal annexation of crimea. as you point out, russia and putin have plenty of problems domestically, especially when it comes to russia s economy and what it means for their citizens. before i let you go, the white house has vowed the u.s. will respond to russian hacks but haven t made clear of how or when. you said unless russia pays a high price they will continue to meddle in u.s. affairs. i wonder from your perspective and where you sit, on the intelligence review, what should that retaliation look like, sanctions, counter hack, what would be most effective? what would putin listen to? i think what would get the kremlin s attention is if we work with countries in europe that have been the subject of similar meddling by russia and we impose additional sanctions on russia. their economy is their weakest point. a discussion of sanctions sets putin off. so plainly they are sensitive to additional economic pain and i would couple that with a cyberresponse so putin understands and it doesn t have to be something made public but putin understands he is vulnerable, too. this is no free lunch for the kremlin and if they are going to meddle this way they could be exposed in ways that could be bad for putin. i think in a overt and covert way we should respond. thank you for being with me tonight. pleasure. thank you. it s election day. 1:40 in the morning on election day. you are excited. you can t sleep. we re not sleeping. why bother trying to sleep? stay right here. coming up in our live special election coverage next. i m going to be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. there s only one of us on this stage that has shipped jobs to mexico because that s donald. jobs, health care, your money, your vote, the economy, issue number one among voters saying economist ben stein staying up late with us. he joins us. at planters we know how to throw a remarkable holiday party. just serve classy snacks and be a gracious host, no matter who shows up. do you like nuts? 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no, the markets aren t in love withic hillary clinton but they hate uncertainty. and trump is more of an unknown and comes with unpredictable on big issues like trade. meanwhile, the s&p 500 could fall 3 to 500 if trump wins. and deutsche bank stocks could also fall if trump wins. joining us, ben stein, lonnie chan, a republican who is not supporting trump. ben, are these predictions too dire? i mean, the u.s. economy has been through a lot. dare i say the fundamentals of the economy are strong? can i say that, harkening back to john mccain? but are these predictions too dire? way too dire. if the economy is extremely strong. and by the way, citi group doesn t have a crystal ball of predicting the future of stocks, neither dois deutsche bank. mr. trump s claim he is going to be the greatest creator of jobs god has ever created is non-sense. there is nothing in his proposal he has set forth that would lead anybody to believe that. nobody believes that, but god bless him any way: but the main thing is the economy is rather strong. people have dropped out of the labor force, and neither of the candidates has a good idea on how to get people back into the ligament force. there are good numbers out there. but ben makes the exact important point that those numbers don t for the people most this need, those are people who have been out of work so long they have given up looked. they are not even counted. when you look at the reality of this situation how helpful is a report like this for clinton? only to the extent it s been covered in a way to suggest that the economy and labor markets in particular are doing well. i think obviously the bigger concern sufficient got people as you have note who had dropped out of the labor force. you have got people in part-time work but want full-time work. so the measure of how the labor market is doing jenlely is not as rosie. big issue going forward is two candidates, both who put out policies that could be problematic. on the trump end you have got policies that would restrict immigration and restrict trade. on the clinton side it s unclear whether she would address the debt and the debt load going forward causes problems as well. when you look at the tax plans, they say ben stein that hillary clinton s plan, when it comes to taxes would reduce the national debt by $5.4 trillion in 20 years. trumps would add $20 trillion over 20 years. look, your concern is do you like anything about trump s tax plan more than clinton s even if you are not a fan of the candidate? yes, i do. i like the idea of reducing the corporate tax. there shouldn t be corporate tax at you will. it should be taxed to the owner of the corporation not taxed a the corporate level. and i like repealing the estate tax because i d like my son and graun daughter to get as much as possible. but i don t think there is anything going on in trump s tax plan that s going to lead to a growth in jobs. i i m sure he want a big growth in jobs. there is nothing going on that s going to lead to that. and nothing in mrs. clinton s tax plan that is going to lead to a growth in jobs. we have a fall in freight movement. that s a worrisome sign. corporate profits have been falling steadily for the last several quarters. i would like to have somebody address what we are going to do if there is a recession. it is a important point. this has been a bull run for the markets. over seven years. if history is a indicator, then ben stein may be right that we are on the cusp of another recession? yeah, and i don t think either candidate really has come out to address that particular issue. i mean it keeps clear that hillary clinton would pursue fiscal stimulus similar to what he we saw in the first year of president obama s term. donald trump, it s unclear exactly what he would do because a lot of his policy has been fuzzy. but obviously, the economy, i think, is while it has done better over these last several quarters i think it s still in a fragile state going forward. this is something unquestionably the next president is going to have to deal with. ben stein, do you believe that this election, regardless who wins is the death knell for the big global trade greechlts, trump says he would rip up nafta, hillary clinton liked tpp until it wasn t the gold standard until she was pushed a lot by the left. she said it was when she read the final draft, is the the end of the global agreements now in
president-elect donald trump came to power front business rather than politics. bolter to reporters yesterday that he can quote be the president of the united states and run my business a hundred percent. we learned his children will directly run list international business a. hold willing state craft by holding talks with russian supporters. foreign heads of state. it feels like america entered a new system of government in the last two weeks. if you are looking for global comparisons look no further than silvio berlusconi. he said quote there are some obvious similarities. he made his first fortunate as real estate developer. his critics disagree with him and saw him as unfit to lead the first of all, as we see it all over the place, the conflict of interest, the fact that they are not only businessmen but they want to continue with their transactional way of doing business, even when they are in office, trump and berlusconi alike continue doing businesses even after elected. berless coney tried to approve 13 laws to help his business or to shield him from indictment. i mean, the smell of corruption is all over the place since the moment donald trump was elected. his daughters, his sons participated at meetings he had with dignitaries, heads of state, talk about the japanese meeting, indian partner meeting, even the phone call with argentina president when after the next day all of his businesses were approved. he wasn t even hiding it. i think in the meeting he the yesterday, he said something like obviously his name is becoming hot. he used that word. meaning we will do business all over the place. the problem with that, government around the world would smell corruption and think the only way it please the president of the united states is to allow by to grow in their country. you will have the biggest case of conflict of interest and border line corruption. one of the things about burr le le but / burr less coney, who ran his business as head of state, enduring in the head of state and all kind of behavior feuds with list wife, parties with workers and extremely crass and offensive comments. all sorts of behavior that people would thought would be disqualifying and yet he had an appeal that persisted past that. talk about that. it is exactly what happened with trum trump. he was deflecting. when he knew what was happen with parties and it was appealing to hate groups and islam phobic and these kind of groups and i would say, neofascists using trump as an after avatar to get back into power. we never knew what he would do on the about education. in his way we kept talking about his insults to megyn kelly and to this and that and basically fall into the trap of talking about trump all the time. he personalized politics, just like berlusconi. it was dominated like berlusconi. they kept talking about his scandals, insults, gaffs, here and there. and he kept giving them that. and basically he dominated italian politics for so long because he decimated opposition. opposition couldn t come up with any formula to appeal to the public opinion. he saw the public opinion a dream, to become rich like him and have beautiful women around him. he even bragged about he seduci some heads of state who wasn t good looking. he said he had to seduce and sacrifice himself. he used to say he was the jesus christ of politics. trump says he will create millions of jobs. this is what berlusconi did. he promised millions of jobs. by the time he left office, people were more poor and he didn t create any jobs. only person that got rich was himself. the problem with that in america, i think, sooner or later, when reality will hit, and it is usually hits, it is like gravitiy, people will wake up to a disaster as foreign policy, disasterous economic policy answers abo policies and above all the smell of corruption all over the lace. thank you for joining us. eye appreciate it. while hillary clinton s popular vote lead continues to grow, highlights a major dilemma for the democratic party. and thing 1 thing 2 starts next. they are the natural borns enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary, and messy and fragile. but under the proper care, they become something beautiful. i find that s a great cause, and i want to support it. 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i m surprised, chris, that they are taking that kind of interest. maybe i shouldn t be surprised. because democrats have been losing ground in this country since 2010. and 2014 we got handed both times. so i wish that people who are ill list sitti such concern abo the possible leadership of keith ellison would have had that same concern ads democrats have started to erode our cannot necks to t connection to the people especially governors in governor s mansions. the point i just made about the map is a crazy. the obama team put together this incredible thing, two consecutive elections of the majority of the country, not done since fdr. unbelievable monumental now three consecutive with the country. incredible achievement and at the same time, state level, state legislature, state houses and we saw in the electoral college in this case completely decembercated. and this is because the geographic sorting of the country is coupled with systems that both state level and obviously at national level that completely they are completely prejudice against people who live in urban areas. there are overprep zen tags repd it metastasized into a system in which a rural minority is going to essentially rule the urban majority that has now no say in their national government. but there is also the fact, nina, that that is that s true, there is a structural problem intersected with the combination of the senate and electoral college. but also the fact you ve got to build democratic power. the job for this next chairman is build democratic power at the local level state by state, legislative district by legislative district. you have seen it up close in ohio. when you look at michigan, wisconsin and ohio, those three states, those are three states that elected republican governors in the great tea party backlash whose governors hammered organized labor, hammered the interest of the left, did everything to disempower and look what that produced in this election. right, chris. and democrats have to take some responsibility for this. again, there is an african proverb that one should never build their shield on the democrats. well no party wants to lose but of all the times to lose, you lose right before the redrawing of lines? i was in the ohio city when we were redrawing lines and democrats again decimated because when it comes to the systemic ways of which the power of politics works, we have been losing elections. we have to reconnect to the people so we are elected to office so we are in the positions to make the difference. what s the difference, nina? i will come to you in a second, michelle. this is shaping up as an interesting proxy battle. and sanders loses the primary but wins the battle for the party. partly because i think people look around and say clintons aren t going to run the democratic party. obama is leaving. bernie sanders at least had this grass roots vision. what exactly is that message? what does that mean? at first it starts with making sure that we you remember the republicans did an autopsy in 2012 that they didn t really follow. but i m hoping that democratic party will do an autopsy in 2016 to figure out what went wrong, how it went wrong and how we can recapture, having robust conversations. having a come to jesus meeting and make sure we never lose sight of the grass roots and when people have an outcry, especially about the disproportionately hurts people of color, but don t forget about the poor white siftsesters and brothers too. when they say they are hurting, we have to say we got it. we have to listen more. we have to listen to the people. interesting you mention the autopsy. what do you want to say? i don t want to cut you off. although it is a proxy war, i think keith ellison is perfectly positioned to bridge. on the one hand you have bernie sanders saying they need to ditch the politics he didn t quite say that he didn t mean it that way. some people in this move that are kind of purely class placed politics will throw women and people of color under the bus to win back the white working class. and keith ellison on the one hand with the sanders movement behind him but he also is never going to work with donald trump. he is going to right. he as invest eted in the resistance in this country. he will never forget that donald trump is an existential threat to his future in this country. he is not going to be deal maker. he is someone again, he is going i think he would approach this job as leader of the resistance. it is interesting that he is this middle of diagrams now, which is part of why the time story was fascinating to me. oh, we are seeing all these parts come together behind congressm