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well, to discuss all things us—eu relations and much more, i spoke tojeremy shapiro, director of research at the european council on foreign relations, and former senior adviser on european affairs at the us state department. if we look, firstly, at what we saw the us president joe biden doing this week — a lot of muscle flexing, a lot of showing of strength of the various alliances — what is your assessment of where the us—eu relationship is now? in a certain way it is in very good shape. there is nothing as good for a relationship as finding an enemy and they have found an enemy in russia and vladimir putin and that has definitively bought them together. and these summits are, in some sense, a lot showier and a lot easier with a lot grander language than they used to be. but there is a difficulty
stuff on junk fees, that is why the ftc is one of the most aggressive we have seen. they are doing good, antitrust work. president trump believed that giving handouts to billionaires was the way to help working families, and president biden knows that that is not it. resources to working families is what is going to help us. >> one of things that i think is going to help us zoom in on the jobs, let's show the trump versus biden jobs, which is really remarkable. jobs created per year since 2017, trump versus biden, 2.1 million in the first year, loses 9.27 in 2020, of course, the pandemic. joe biden comes back, gains a huge number of jobs, 7.25. and after that, a very, very strong growth. you see that huge, huge difference between the two. but even if you just say okay, fine, take out the pandemic, take out 2020, take out 2020 one. that was the pandemic in the recovery.
was somehow russian disinformation. if we had just seen — disinformation. if we had just seen honesty which is what we saw in — seen honesty which is what we saw in the _ seen honesty which is what we saw in the courtroom when the fbi who — saw in the courtroom when the fbi who had possession of the laptop— fbi who had possession of the laptop presented it as evidence, then i think hunter biden— evidence, then i think hunter biden would probably be in a much — biden would probably be in a much different position right now— much different position right now rather than being a defendant in a federal court room — defendant in a federal court room. ~ ., , defendant in a federal court room. . ., room. what is your view on the interla room. what is your view on the interplay between _ room. what is your view on the interplay between politics - room. what is your view on the interplay between politics and l interplay between politics and the justice system that we have seen recently?— seen recently? president biden has made it _ seen recently? president biden has made it very _ seen recently? president biden has made it very clear - seen recently? president biden has made it very clear that - has made it very clear that while he is the president of the united states of america he is a father and many of us who've had family members who suffer from who've had family members who sufferfrom addiction we understand what is going through. he doesn't want to politicise it. he wants his son to go through and have his day in court, he will not interfere with that and more importantly we have seenjoe biden this week be a president we have seenin week be a president we have seen in be an international leader, we saw him do things that presidents do and things that presidents do and things that will push the american agenda forward. so this trial
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on technology, we got an agreement and a memorandum for understanding with semiconductors. we even have an institutional cooperation with the ai office in europe and the ai safety office here. so many things are happening. issues like technology, it is a competitive field but on the other hand it has many challenges, for personal data, for how we will approach and how ourjobs will be changed in those challenges are beyond the borders. one country cannot deal with those issues alone so cooperation is important and we are moving in the right direction.— are moving in the right direction. ~ ., ~' are moving in the right direction. ~ ., ~ ., direction. would you like to see a more _ direction. would you like to see a more formalised i direction. would you like to see a more formalised deali direction. would you like to i see a more formalised deal that goes through congress? it is see a more formalised deal that goes through congress?- goes through congress? it is a choice of every _ goes through congress? it is a choice of every jurisdiction i goes through congress? it is a choice of every jurisdiction of i choice of everyjurisdiction of how to do the deal but what is
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lawyer, if he is at all good. but i do think that the way you started this program, this segment where you have donald trump talking about his revenge tour and he cannot be coaxed out of it, that is normally the kind of thing you might want to say after you are sentenced, not before. because judge merchan can consider all of that in sentencing him on july 11th. >> yeah, you said this, i was struck by this. he said the statements of retribution against bragg and other perceived enemies are facts the judge merchan can and should consider on july 11th when sentencing trump. what is the category of things the judge can and should consider in this circumstance? >> one of the things the judge can consider is remorse, acceptance of responsibility, and the reason it is correct to laugh is that this is sort of the poster child for lack of remorse. and there is a difference
trying to keep things under control. i mean, the last thing he wants us for donald trump to be going off on this probation officer saying this is all rigueur. who knows what he might say. so i think that's really the goal here, is to be in there and keep things civilized could we actually see trump submit letters from friends and family is part of this on his behalf. >> and would that make a difference for the judge or du really good guy. >> he really didn't mean it. i don't know. they want to submit the letters, but i will say i green renato, if there was ever it's very unusual that a brings the attorney to the to this interview with probation for the pre-sentencing investigation. but if there was ever a case where it made sense for the defendant to bring his lawyer. this is the case because essentially the concern is that he could say something that the judge made an interesting point there about if he said something that could affect the other cases that he could affect the other k could also affect this case. >> i mean, he just stuck going off attacking the judge,
russia hoax that never happened and make no mistake in their desperation when trump was president in 2020 you don't think there talking about things as they speak pretty naïve you with more of the speaker of the house and you think of the magnitude of this as these agents knew nothing joe biden flat out lying the media mob going along what is this the former soviet union and the fbi knew the laptop was real and they were warning big tech they could be victims of misinformation has they wouldn't
and grab a crime spree. instead, he is cutting almost 200 so that's off. the iranian all of this is that this crime spree is a direct cause of the budget deficit that california is experiencing because businesses and individuals are leaving the state. they want law & order, they want a safe environment. this is basic stuff. may be i should use really small words so the left can understand. you have to have a safe environment so businesses will be there, so individuals will be there. the more of those who have, you will have greater tax revenue for you to be able to fund those things. but gavin does not seem to understand that. in fact it is really accelerating this vicious cycle by cutting law enforcement, continuing the crime spree to see more businesses and individuals flee the state. >> you mentioned it could be 47 billion, it could be 27, give or take 10 or 20 billion. but in the minds of liberals, when it comes to something like