they are all boston strong and we salute them. i m anderson cooper. good night. i hope you were with us during the last hour and you were inspired as watching adrianne haslet-davis story. she is truly boston strong. one thing she wanted to get across to everyone watching is something her grandmother said to her as a kid it is okay to not be okay sometimes. but adrien is doing okay. and she has a long road ahead of her as do many of the survivors but we will root for her along the way. if you are just joining us, we expect a news conference any moment from australian authorities on the search for flight 370. it is 11:00 a.m. in the search area. the newly refined and somewhat smaller search area. you see it in the red near the top of the screen. the gray is former search areas. the question right now is will it change yet again when angus houston, who s coordinating the search effort, steps to the make phone in perth. will he make bigger news. we will find out shortly and we expect the press conference any moment now. you can you can see it live on the screen. they are preparing the podium and such. as we wait for him i want to go to aar erin mclaughlin. they refined the search area. what do we know about the search going on right now? that s right, anderson. they managed to reduce the search area by some 1300 square miles, which believe it or not, is a relatively minor adjustment, compared to the adjustment they made on sunday when they reduced the search area to roughly a third of what it used to be. still, we re talking about some 33,000 square miles. a very, very large area, which is why authorities have been stressing that it is critical they get more information to be able to reduce it even further. as you said, it will be interesting to see if mr. houston has any comments on that in the press conference that we re expecting just minutes from now. when i last talked to authorities in our 8:00 hour, people involved in the search, they were saying they were going to give it many more days, perhaps more than a week of continuing to try to just focus on hearing anymore pings that might occur. the assets that are now being used in the search, do we know how many ships and planes are out there looking? well, today, according to the joint agency coordination center, press statements this morning, there are some 15 planes and 14 aircraft out scouring those waters, but it has sob said in some 23 days of the operation we have had no reported findings of any kind of debris. as you mentioned, all eyes right now focused on the australian vessel, the ocean shield with the american ping locater on board scouring the waters in a ladder-like formation, trying to redetect that signal that gave so many people hope here on sunday. again, it will be interesting to see if mr. houston has any comments, any updates on that. the past few press conferences of this kind that we have experienced over the past few days there have been dramatic announcements. anderson. erin mclaughlin, we appreciate that. we will check in with erin and as i said if you are just joining us we are waiting to hear from authorities. we do not know what they will be announcing at this press conference. it is a little past 11:00 a.m. in australia and in the search area. obviously the search is already underway. we don t know if there are new developments, though, beyond the refining the search area. we anticipate some sort of announcement being made. we will bring it to you live. we want to bring in our panel. author of why planes crash, investigator fights for safe skies and doing calculations on the search. boeing trip 777 captain and miles o brien, former department of transportation inspector who represents accident victims and their families. richard, let s start with you. you were with me in the 8:00 hour. you heard from captain mark math thi mathies from the u.s. navy. he said the life of the pinger is 30 days and may go up to 45 days and may allow that much time to focus the search on trying to get another ping. yes. last night, angus houston said i m just keeping an eye forgive me, i m keeping an eye to see if he will stop me. he said they will go several more days. here s angus houston. okay. good morning. i m accompanied by the same team as on previous occasions. i m pleased to be here to brief you today. today i can report some further encouraging information regarding the search for missing flight mh-370. on monday, i advised the pinger locater deployed by the ocean shield had detected signals consistent with those emitted by aircraft black boxes on two separate occasions. i can now tell you that ocean shield has been able to reacquire the signals on two more occasions. like yesterday afternoon, and late last night perth time. the detection yesterday afternoon was held for approximately five minutes and 32 seconds. the detection late last night was held for approximately seven minutes. ocean shield has now detected four transmissions in the same broad area. yesterday s signals will assist in better defining a reduced and much more manageable search area on the ocean floor. i believe we are searching in the right area, but we need to visually identify aircraft wreckage before we can confirm with certainty that this is the final resting place of mh-370. for the sake of the 239 families, this is absolutely imperative. today the ocean shield is continuing the slow, pain staking and methodical work to refine the location around the four acoustic detections. we are not yet at the point of deploying the autonomous underwater vehicle. the better ocean shield can define the area the easier it will be for the autonomous underwater vehicle to subsequently search for aircraft wreckage. it is important to note that ocean shield can search six times the amount of area with the towed pinger locater than can be done with the sonar on the autonomous underwater vehicle. searching underwater is an extremely laborious task. so the more work we can do on the surface with the towed ping er locater to affix the position of the transmission the less work we will have to do below the surface, scouring the sea floor. given the guaranteed shelf life hoe pinger batteries is 30 days and it s now 33 days since the aircraft went missing it s important that we gather as much information to fix the possible location of the aircraft while the pingers are still transmitting. in further promising information, we have received the results of the data analysis conducted on the signals detected by ocean shield on the first two occasions. this data analysis was conducted by the australia center based at albatross in new south wales. it is the australian defense forces center of excellence for acoustic analysis. the analysis determined that a very stable, distinct and clear signal was detected at 33.331 kilohertz and that it consistently pulsed at a 1.106 second interval. they, therefore, assess the transmission was not of natural origin and was likely sourced from specific electronic equipment. they believe the signals to be consistent with the specification and description of a flight data recorder. up to 11 military aircraft, four civil aircraft and up to 40 ships will assist in today s search. a modified apc-3 will coordinate with ocean shield in conducting a sonar search in the same vicinity. today a weak front is moving in from the southeast, and is expected to bring scattered showers. the planned search area is about 75,000 square kilometers. you may have noticed the size of the search area has significantly reduced over the last couple of days. based on ocean shield s detections we are now searching a much more concentrated area based on the drift pred cases made possible by ocean shields detections. a smaller area has allowed much tighter search patterns based entirely on visual search principles. in other words, we have intensified our search in the visual search area. just a bit of housekeeping, at my last press conference i said i could come back to you with the precise timing of when the signals were detected by the ocean shield. the first detection took place on saturday, the 5th of april at 4:45 p.m. perth time. the second detection took place on saturday, the 5th of april at 9:27 p.m. perth time. the third detection took place on tuesday the 8th of april at 4:27 p.m. perth time. the fourth detection took place on tuesday, 8th of april at 10:17 p.m. perth time. i m now happy to take your questions, but before i do that i would refer you to the diagram there which shows you where all of the detections were made. i would also highlight to you the satellite hand shake calculation number seven. that was the hand shake, which was a partial ping. where the experts in kuala lumpur access the plane s engines might have flamed out and it s probably significant in terms of the end of power flight. what does your data show? du it give you any indication of how far they have traveled? we have no idea at this stage. we are continuing the i have yul search, a intense visual search in the hope of picking something up because what we are dealing with with the visual search is an area of search which has been adapted consistent with the amount of oceanic drift that has been at play during the period. okay. so that s the first point. the second point is, the only thing we have got at the moment in terms of this location here is the detection of the transmissions. we have no idea at this stage what is under the water. of course, as soon as we finish the towed pinger locater work, hopefully we will get more transmissions to better refine the point on the ocean floor where the transmissions are emanating from. once we have that, and there s probably no more hope of picking up anymore transmissions, we will put the autonomous underwater vehicle down to have a look. now, hopefully with a lot of transmissions, we ll have a tight, small area, and hopefully in a matter of days we will be able to find something on the bottom that might confirm that this is the last resting place of mh-370. i stress and i can t stress enough the families have to be considered when you report on awl of this. because they want a bit of certainty. we don t get certainty until we have a visual sighting of the wreckage. that will probably come with the work the autonomous vehicle does. the other thing about the bottom there, i m informed by experts, that there s a lot of silt down there. that could complicate the search because the silt on the bottom of the ocean can be very thick and things disappear in to it and it makes a visual search underwater very difficult. on monday, you thought there was possibly two pingers. to you think you are dealing with two or one device at this point? well, we have the evidence. the assessment was made that we thought there might be two pingers there. this has not been confirmed in further detections that we picked up. now, whether that s because, you know one ping er has run out of battery life and there s one running, or we just haven t got close to it, i don t know. but the fact of the matter is we haven t had any further evidence of two pingers going off in the same area or at the same time. isn t it curious that two pingers, the frequency to be 3.3 on both of them? well, i won t get in to that because basically the analysis on that i don t think has revealed anything unusual. i might ask mr. levy if he has any information on that. no. okay. do you plan to move more pinger locate canners in the area to cover more territory? no, we don t. because as i have said previously, one of the important things about this sort of search is the need for complete, completely noiseless environment. ocean shield is minimizing all of its systems and really the only thing that is operating are the two thrusters at the back of the vessel. everything else is turned off. so that we have the best search environment possible. if you have other ships there, you would end up with a very noisy environment and you wouldn t get the sort of search that we have at the moment. i mean, we are looking at this stage for transmissions that are probably weaker than they would have been early on because the batteries of both devices are past their use by date, and they were very shortly found. i think we are very fortunate, in fact, to get some transmissions on day 33. just one person. is it possible you could release a section of the audio recording so we can hear it? we ll look at that. i don t see why not. how many detections do you think the ocean shield needs to refine the location. you already have four detections and you say you need more detections to refine the location and second, do you have more information regarding the detection we received about the chinese ship and do you think it is a reliable one? in terms of ocean shield, the more detections we get, the better. the other thing that comes in to it is the quality of the transmission and the detection. what we are after is the best return that we can get. by triening a la triangulating data we will come up with a more sharply defined, much smaller search area underwater. bear in mind, that the time spent on the surface cover six times more area than any given time than we will be able to do when we go under water. with the batteries likely to fade or fail very shortly, we need to get as much positional data as we can so that we can define a very small search area. bear in mind, with the air france disaster several years ago, it took them 20 days. they had a very good they thought they had a good fix and it took the underwater vehicle 20 days to get to the wreckage. yes. . [ inaudible ] is it worthwhile to send a manned submarine to have a look at what s down there? have you considered that? well, i m not running the search. we ve got we ve got the australian maritime safety authority running and coordinating the operational search. of course the defense force providing a lot of the assets, along with many other nations. there s a lot of military assets out there at the moment. of course there is one submarine. i might just get commodore levy to comment on that particular aspect of your question. the short answer is, the utility of submarines has been evaluated and it was when we first started to commence the search. it you determined that they would not, the submarine would not be optimized for this particular search. what we do have today is royal australian aircraft p-3 aircraft deploying in the field. that provides more sensors in the vicinity of ocean shield without having a ship there to pro-reduce the background noise. some very good work that was only started after the mh-370 aircraft was lost, very good work by the australian defense work, in particular the air force have modified the acoustic processor to pick up the 37.5 kilohertz frequency. we expect anytime now the aircraft, the first aircraft, the ocean shield will coordinate to lay a sonar buoy. it is a package parachuted out of the aircraft, floats on the surface of the ocean and will deploy a hydrophone, 1,000 feet below the surface of the ocean and it has a radio that transmits the data back to the aircraft. hp-3 is capable of carrying 30 on each mission and that will provide a range of sensors, a number of sensors, 1,000 feet below the surface. the towed pinger locater is deeper than that. it provides a range of sensors 1,000 feet down. the other point i would make is the silt cover on the bottom as well as potentially hiding debris. now we have an analysis that shows there is silt down there. that is an absorbing material. so we are at risk of a lot of the sound energy being absorbed by the silt rather than if it was a rock seabed. a lot of that would be reflected to the surface or towards the surface. the fact there is silt there also hindered to a certain extent the sound provocation. have you analyzed the signal. [ inaudible ] i understand there s been no further detections in the area where the chinese vessel assisted by hms echo, which is an oceanographic vessel from the royal navy. i believe they haven t made any further detections. in terms of the analysis of the signals that it picked up, i ll come back to you on that. i m not sure where we are at with that. i haven t had any advice that the analysis is complete at this stage. when you began this search and looking at the odds, the size of the ocean, the size of the search area, what do you think the chances are that you would make an announcement like this today? well, i would say very quickly caution again what we are picking up is a great lead. we have to caution before we say this is the final resting place. there s still a ways to go. if you asked me when i arrived last sunday night, i would have been probably more pessimistic than i am now. i m now optimistic we will find the aircraft, or what is left of the aircraft in the not too distant future, but we haven t found it yet because this is a very challenging business. we re relying on transmissions that have come and gone. i just like to have that hard evidence, a photograph evidence that there s pieces of aircraft down there to know that actually this is the final resting place of mh-370. based on this diagram, will you can see the scale on the bottom. the scale on the bottom is on the left at 01020 kilometers. you can see it is a relatively small area. again, i narrowed it down to 25 kilometers. i m confident that we have an area there which provides a promising area to exploit. note the satellite hand shake calculation and ping seven. that s another source of evidence. so i think that we re looking in the right area. but i m not prepared to say, to confirm anything until such time as somebody lays eyes on the wreckage. are you being cautious for the families and the sake of precision, but we are looking at a case where we have frequencies, which are consistent with a black box. that s been verified by the black box. by acoustic analysis. they have been consistent, they have been sustain td and they are where the science suggests the plane is. yep. can you give a percentage, without holding you to it, 80%, 90%. i understand you have to express caution but how confident are you? i have confidence we re in the right area. but i m not going to give the final confirmation until somebody has seen wreckage. okay. i m not prepared to go this percentage or that percentage. you said you were to wait to get more transitions from ocean shield. for how many days do you want to keep the pinger locater working? the reason we want to do that is that there s no second chances. it looks like the signals we have picked up recently have been much weaker than the original signals we picked up. the batteries are starting to fade and as a consequence the signal is becoming weaker. we need to, as we say in australia, make hay while the sun shines. we need to get all of the data we can. by getting more data, we will be able to compress this area in to a much smaller area where we do the very difficult and challenging search with the autonomous underwater vehicle. bear in mind, we heard about the silt. the silt on the bottom will complicate that search. sometimes silt can be, you know, tens of meters thick. it s a very difficult environment. so, you know, the more effort we put in to location of where the transmission is coming from, the more certainty we will have that we will find something on the bottom of the ocean. what are they doing in the search area? what we are doing, we are not putting all of our eggs in one basket. we are continuing with all of the activities. we are continuing to look where 01 is and we are also doing a much more intense visual search. where the track spacing f you understand that. what an aircraft does. it s assigned to an area to search and then it will design a pattern with small spacing and it will cover the area very extensively and very intensively. that s what is happening now. that s what is happening in the wreckage in the area here would have moved with the ocean drift, the currents and waves and so on we are now searching the area where after 33 days the scientists, the analysts assess where the wreckage might be now. we hope we will ools also find something on the surface of the ocean that confirms that the aircraft basically entered the water at this location.submarin limitation in how deep they can dive. that s a classified area. all nations they don t declare how deep their submarines can go. the environment down here is around, we said previously 4500 meters. so what we re talking about, specialists underwater, autonomous vehicles and specialists other vehicles that could be used for recovery. so this is the domain in which you use those sorts of vehicles. so from here we will be looking further downstream for other vehicles that might be able to operate in the environment, if we find, if we find obviously the aircraft. mr. houston sorry. just one at a time. you first and then you. the difference between the points on the map is about 25 meters maximum. in the class we were told it could only pick up sounds a mile away from the black box. are you reassessing of how the sounds travel underwater at this point because you are detecting things that are much further apart. again, you heard the commodore say the bottom is a silt bottom. that absorbs sound. funny things happen depending on temperature, temperature layer answer so on and so forth. the characteristics of the water, the characteristics of the ocean floor all come in to play here. the other thing is that in terms of this area the ocean shield went there on the 5th of april. it is pulling the towed pinger locater since then. that s four or five days. it has searched that area continuously through that period of time. this is what we picked up at the moment. you ll note that the most recent detections are all down in the southern part of the area. on tuesday, the two signal were acquired. okay. it was around 1,000 matters above the seabed, 3,500 deployed. is that experts say that is consistent with what happened [ inaudible ] it is quite possible that there s currents down there which could have disturbed the debre and also as it was falling from the surface it would have dispersed over a large area, as well. it has been said we know more about the surface of the moon than the seabed of the ocean floor. that s probably right. we don t have accurate sampling of the currents in that particular area. the indication we have that silt is on the seabed is taken from samples taken some years ago and 130 miles away from the current position. they are in a database that we can access but gives an understanding of how little topography we have of the seabed. the concept of water movements an flows down there is one we have to take in to account. the families must take encouragement from what you have announced today. but as you said that confirmation must be visual from the autonomous sub. when is your understanding of when the sub could go down? do you have a time frame in mind, five to ten, 20 days. you mean the autonomous underwater vehicle? yes. we will send it down when we have exhaust ed the possibilities in terms of the surface search. this is a personal opinion. i don t think that time is very far away at all because i think the last signal we got was a very weak signal. if we continue to get signals, though, we will continue to search. for the simple reason that the underwater vehicle it operates at walking pace. okay. it has a relatively narrow swath and it takes days and days and days to cover even an area like this. in fact, this area you see here would take it we d be talking in terms of weeks, not just days. so the more time we spend getting the locational data the better off we will be when we come to the underwater search. remember what i said in my brief. essentially, it takes six times longer to cover the same area with the underwater submersible as it does with towed pinger on the surface. how long will you wait from the last ping you receive, or the last signal you receive, which as you said you last night, if you hear nothing more how many hours or days will you wait before deploying the autonomous vehicle? well with, i think those judgments have yet to be made. this is a very dynamic process. judgments are made on the basis of a lot of factors. and clearly we are not at that point yet. i can t give you any information at this time. i would imagine, though, it s not far away before we deploy something to go down and have a look. today? [ inaudible ] none of the debris we with found, thus far, has had a connection to mh-370. but we are now in a search area, and we are working very intensely and we are hopeful, we are hopeful that we might find something that has a connection to the aircraft. so we ll just have to wait and see how that goes. if we find anything of significance, we ll obviously let the media know. have you already been over that before in a broader pattern? i think we have probably been over on a broader pattern, but we haven t done it the way we are doing it now. you may remember over the last week we have been covering areas of 220,000 kilometers, areas the size of island or one of the largest provinces in china. we re now sending the same number of aircraft out to a search area which is much smaller. consequently we can do a much more intense, thorough search, visual search. before we were doing, if you like, an all sensor-type search, using radar and eyes, but what we are focus canned on right now is a i have yul search. visual range. i think the the range is two miles an i think that is visual search 101. we are searching 75,000 square kilometer cans. we keep going from nautical miles to kilometers. given the debris that was previous you believe has nothing to do with mh-370. is there any chance the frequencies have nothing to do with the transmission devices you were looking for? you said they match up to the frequencies and you don t believe them to be anything natural but could they be something unrelated? we think well, we have had the analysis done. it s nothing natural. it comes from a manmade device. and it s consistent with the locater on a black box. that s why we are more confident than we were before, but we have to lay eyes on it. one more question we are working. that s one of my roles to coordinate that. this week is very busy in perth because there s a big conference. that is true right now. we have thousands of people here at the moment. thousands of visitors. from the end of this week, we will have adequate accommodation to cater to the families and we will be keeping a very close eye on that. we are working very closely with the chinese ambassador and his staff, the malaysian high commissioner and hi staff, malaysian airlines and the west australian government, the city of perth and the city of free mantle to ensure that we can do everything possible to ensure the families are looked after and taken care of when they come to australia. we want them to we know it s a very sad time for them. but when they come, they will be looked after. we are very know cussed on that. and i must say the west australian government, the federal government both see this as a very, very high priority. thank you very much. thank you. perhaps the most significant information we have heard in a very long time. air chief marshall angus houston saying a number of important things. he described the new confirmation of pings as a great lead. he said heed quote now optimistic we will find what s left of the aircraft in the not too distant future. he s not confirming the aircraft has been found, but they have the sounds they have now heard again are consistent with flight data recorders. he says, quote, they are stable, distinct, clear signals that have been detected. the transmission is not of natural origin, which eliminates that it could be a whale or something natural on the seabed. they said it is a silty bottom of the ocean here in this area which has been complicating the sound, the transmission of sound. this is truly a significant evening. we are back with our panel. he didn t say they found the plane without saying it. it is as close as he will say without physical evidence. when he says i m optimistic we will find the aircraft in the not too distant future. i believe we re searching in the right area, not of natural origin, electrical equipment, equipment with an being a military man he s not going to go that final step until he has physical evidence. this is pretty much telling us he s got it. i agree. when the families are in consideration and that s what he is considering you can t give anything other than facts. they are handling this like a professional investigation now opposed to earlier on when announcements were coming out all over the place. this guy knows what he is doing and taking control of the investigation and being considerate of the families and very well done. the fact that new pings were heard is clearly a huge, huge step forward. i you confident they were going to reacquire it. i kept that to to myself. you could see the marshall had a more relaxed demeanor than i have seen him before. that would be confidence as far as i m concerned. the interesting thing, earlier in his conversation, he indicated not only did they have the pings from the flight data recorder opposed to the cockpit voice recorder. interesting. mary? same thing. i think that angus houston and the team there, they certainly expressed that they thought they had the pingers, they had the black box, they had the right site. it was all right there. they didn t put the crowning achievement on it. they didn t say we have the plane but i think everybody reads between the lines that they are saying that and so very important. i concur that they should use those black boxes and pingers, as long as they last. they might be in their final dying pulses, but it would simplify the length of the search because this is the first step in a long process. miles o brien, angus houston also saying the autonomous underwater vehicles will not be sent down until they have exhausted all possibilities in the search on the surface both for debris on the surface and for the pingers. houston also said that he did not anticipate that would be very far off. because of the weakening what he believes is the weakening of the signal that they are likely to go to those autonomous underwater vehicles relatively shortly. i think as the confident dense grows that this is grows that this is the location and more returns from the pingers, you can say with certainty when you stop hearing them what happened. where s we didn t know if it you a fluke before or not. with four or five and if we get to six and seven and they get less and less you can say with certainty the batteries are died. let s get the auv in the water and get busy with that. i m flabbergasted, not a single shred of debris has been found and they are on the pingers quite evidently. i d like to know what assets in the nonpublic realm, the secret realm were used to pinpoint this location. this can t be just luck. do you believe there s more information they are not giving out? i think they have a higher level of credibility on the information. i think they have one level deeper. they have got the experts who know this backwards basically. this is my supposition, but the experts are saying this is it but he s the last level of caution. you don t come out and do a press conference and make the sort of comments you quoted it, anderson. we will find the aircraft in the not too distant future. they know where that plane is now. david gallo, you coled the search for air france flight 447. so much has been made that it took two years to get the black box up but as you and i have talked the last several weeks a lot of time was eaten up by red tape, getting approvals to get to the site. once you are out there and have an idea where the wreckage is, i mean, when you look at the conditions under the water even with the silt, how confident are you they will be able to find the black boxes and in a relatively short order? i m confident they can find the black boxes. i have no doubt about that. i m not saying it is easy. that s a fairly tricky topographic area, on the north side of an undersea plateau that is about two miles high off the sea floor and the north side might have canyons, gullies and all sorts of stuff. it won t be easy but can still help on a survey. last thing you want are boulder and rocks scattered around on the sea floor. if silt is covering the sea floor it may help the sonar source. if you are just joining us a significant press conference from angus houston. coming as close as possible to saying they have, with a lot of confidence very close to finding this aircraft underneath the water. they said they will not confirm anything until they have a visual on wreckage. they obviously want to continue to search for debris, as well, on the surface of the water. none of which they have found thus far. they point out again, this is the significant part. the transmissions they have heard are not of natural origin. they are consistent with they are from man made objects and consistent with the flight data recorders. a lot more to talk about. we ll be right back. aflac. aflac, aflac, aflac! 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hello, i m john berman. michaela pereira is off today. we d like to welcome our viewers to the united states and around the world. breaking news at this hour. a highly anticipated and extremely controversial report due out any minute details just what cia interrogators did to terror detainees after september 11 and if it worked. any minute now senator dianne feinstein will present this report. you re looking at live pictures of the senate well. the senator will detail tactics and policies used during the bush administration against al qaeda suspects waterboarding, sleep deprivations, reservations about secret overseas prisons. the so-called black sites, all that expected to be included. what is in the report is controversial, releasing it at all is controversial. heightened security around the world because of fears the report could spark anti-american violence. evan perez has a preview of what s in the report. also, dana bash who just spoke with senator dianne feinstein. senior white house correspondent jim acosta, pentagon correspondent barbara starr and with us from cairo where there are security concerns is ian lee. first, we want to go to evan perez with a look at what this report will say. good morning, evan. good morning, john. there s no doubt this is going to be a really ugly day for the cia. this report has been fought over for years now. for the last few months the cia has been working with the white house and with the senate to try to decide what to release in this report. the findings are going to be really ugly in the sense that we re going to learn a lot more about what went on in this program. we know for a fact that there s going to be more information about the detainees, what they were subjected to. we also know that the report will portray the cia as going beyond what the methods that were authorized by memos that were done by the justice department and that it misled, according to the democrats who did this report, that it misled the justice department, misled the white house, and misled congress about what it was doing with the detainees. we expect we ll get details about detainee deaths that occurred while if this program and overall it s going to portray the cia as mismanaging this program and didn t produce much intelligence according to the democrats and, in fact, the big question is did this program help find osama bin laden. as you know he was killed in a u.s. raid. that s going to be still in dispute when the day is done. we expect that the cia will produce its own report, john, that will say that it did, indeed, provide intelligence that led to the capture or to the finding of bin laden. the senate democrats are going to say that it did not. so that s what we re going to have at the end of the day. probably much in dispute about this program. indeed. divisive to say the least. as one senator put it this morning, this report will say the cia did use torture and it didn t work and now evan you are reporting that this report will also say the cia was misleading to federal officials as well. we ll check back with you as you get more details of what s inside the report. i want to go to dana bash, our chief congressional correspondent. at the center of this whole something senator dianne feinstein. she will be speaking on the senate floor any minute. it s really senator feinstein who has decided and pushed for the release of the report today. you just spoke with her. that s right. as you know we ve been reporting all morning about the fact that military personnel, m boosy personnel and other u.s. personnel around the world are on high alert because of the fear of repercussions from the release of this report. so i just caught up with the senator, the chairwoman of the intelligence committee as she was going from her office to the senate floor where she ll give her speech and i asked her about that. how do you respond to those who worry that releasing this will put american lives at risk? well, i ll respond to that in my remarks. . there really is no good time and i think the greatness of this country is that we can examine mistakes and remedy them. and that is the hallmark of a great and just society so anything can happen at any time without a report. there s no question about that. and there will be a very good chance that because of the change in the senate, the report will not do anything. reporter: so you re doing this because you re going to lose the chairmanship? not necessarily. reporter: or because democrats are going to lose control? no, but there that s obviously a factor. there are a lot of factors that you weigh. this hasn t been an easy decision to move ahead and i ll make that clear. just to button that, we should remind our viewers that as of likely this thursday when the lame duck session is over democrats will effectively not have control, republicans don t formally take control until january but there won t be any business done so that was what the senator was referring to is that this is her chance, her last chance as chairwoman of the committee. she referred, john, to the fact that this hasn t been easy. boy is that an understatement. this has been years in the making. the senator and the intelligence committee, mostly on the democratic side, have been very much pushing for information. there has been a lot of controversy, tension about it. there have been accusations from senator feinstein herself about the cia hacking into senate commuters. it s, again, not been easy and she is no dove. she is very hawkish but she feels this is important to do as others have said because we re not north korea, we re not russia, we are a transparent society and this is why it s important. dana, there s been out and out acrimony between the committee and cia which is something you almost never see. dana bash, thanks so much again. we are waiting to hear from senator dianne feinstein the chair of the senate select committee on intelligence. she will be revealing new details about what is in this highly an patriotanticipated controversial report, called the cia torture report, what went on after september 11 to get information from terror detainees. i want to go to the white house. jim adocosta is there. jim, president obama, then senator obama ran largely on releasing the details of what went on. he was adamantly opposed to it as a candidate. now that he s been president for a number of years it is much more complicated. it is much more complicated and it would be interesting to do a then and now because i think they see more grays at the white house. make no mistakes, when president obama came into office in 2009 one of his first executive orders was to ban these so-called enhanced interrogation techniques which included waterboarding which, by the way, arizona senator john mccain, president obama s republican rival in 2008, he has referred to waterboarding as torture. the president in recent years has said we tortured some folks. so there s no dispute as to where the president stands on this. however we should point out and dana was talking about that somewhat. in the last several days you have noticed a hesitation on the part of this administration and that they knew this would be problematic in terms of releasing these results. we should point out that just yesterday the intelligence community after vetting and reviewing the intelligence committee s report returned that back to congress, returned that become to feinstein so she could release this redacted version and according to an administration official i talked to last night, john, this is 93% unredacted so there are some redactions in this 600-page executive summary of this 6,000 page report but according to the official nothing will be lost in the narrative. so there is going to be some detail here that perhaps the american people haven t seen before. but the chief complaint, the chief, i guess, technique in all of this that is really objected to by a lot of democrats is this use of waterboarding. it was used extensively on a number of detainees during the bush administration. president bush, vice president dick cheney when they were in office they maintained over and over again that this was not torture. president obama came into office and that s what happens when presidents change parties. when a president coming into office he can do what he wants to do when it comes to conducting war and peace and the president decided he was going to ban these techniques. make mo no mistake, i think this is a very difficult decision for white house to release this information. not only because of the unforeseen consequences that you might see around the world, violence, attacks and so forth, but keep in mind this president won t be in office much longer. he ll be gone in two years. the next president can come along from a different party and go back and decide and review what happened during this administration, drone attacks and so forth, so it does set a precedent and i think makes this administration a little uneasy, john. jim acosta, stick around. we will want the white house reaction when senator dianne feinstein, the chair of the senate intelligence committee, is due to speak in any minute. she will reveal new details of what s in the report. you heard jim mention it. waterboarding, the enhanced interrogation techniques that were used to get information from terror detainees after september 11 during the bush administration. again, the details of what is in that report will be released any minute. but even before those details are released, the report is controversial and all around the world u.s. marines have been asked to be on a heightened state of alert to respond if there are any protests or violence directed at americans because of this report. i want to bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr to give us details about 24 heightened security. barbara? john, good morning. the pentagon may make the case that much of this has been out there in the press in recent years, that the world knows an awful lot about this. but not really, because starting last week an order came from the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey, the chairman, out to the worldwide combatant commanders to be ready when the report is released. the concern is a lot of material may appear online now. it will be read around the world. whether it is accurate, ink context or propaganda put out y about the cia by isis, there may be may be violent repercussions. the concern is u.s. embassies, u.s. military bases around the world, u.s. troops in afghanistan, in iraq, in the middle east. so what has happened since last week is u.s. marine which is basically run the emergency response forces in africa and in the middle east have been put on this heightened state of alert. they are now ready to go faster than ever before if a violent situation was to break out. look, let s be clear. the pentagon, the white house, congress, everybody hopes it does not happen. but it has happened in the past. u.s. embassies have come under attack and, of course, ever recalls the situation with the u.s. government compound in benghazi, libya. that is what they are trying to avoid. a violent backlash that the military could not be ready to respond to so these marines now on alert, ready to move if something were to happen. john? on alert and ready to move. one place you can bet the united states has its eye on right now, thanks, barbara starr, one place the united states no doubt has its eye on is cairo. cairo, of course, it was site of violent demonstrations after the video many people saw as anti-islam, the u.s. embassy in cairo came under attack there. i want to check in with ian lee in cairo to give us a sense of what precautions are being taken and if there is concern and visible concern that you can see there today. ian? john, i had a conversation with the u.s. embassy and they re telling me they won t comment on just procedures. in 2012 there was a breaching of the perimeter by anti-american demonstrators, the breaching of the u.s. embassy perimeter since then rts, security has been stepped up, there s more barriers, a larger police presence and the military is close by if needed. but when we talk about the street and the genre action, there s mild interest, not very much what we re hearing that people are saying. where the real damning reports could come from are egypt, for example, was one of the cia s rendition program. if they are mentioned this could be embarrassing for the government and as well for their intelligence community. we haven t heard any reaction from the egyptian governments yet but we re also waiting to see what are in the details. if something is very explosive in this report, then that could we could see the effect of that in the street. john. ian lee in cairo. yes, the details so important, what is in this report. and any minute now we will hear from dianne 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angieslist.com today. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. any minute now, senator dianne feinstein, the chair of the senate select committee on intelligence, will give a speech on the senate floor outlining her committee s report on what is being call cda torture techniques. how they question terror suspects after september 11 during the bush administration, what these techniques were, whether they were effective and now we have just learned also how they were represented to the administration and the government at the time. again, that speech any second but the report just posted online. we have the details of what it says. i m going to go to our justice correspondent evan perez. evan, it says the techniques were not effective and not only that it says what they were doing, the cia, was misrepresented to the government at the time. that s right, john. as i mention, this is going to be dark for the cia because all along they ve said this program produced valuable intelligence. this report that s been done by the senate democrats which looksed at six million pages of documents in the cia is concluded otherwise. the senate found there were at least 119 prisoners who went through the cia program that s a bigger number than we have ever known. the cia has previously only said about 100. we know a third of them were suggest to what the cia called enhanced interrogation tactics, eits, this is what people call torture. waterboarding, slapping b, sleep deprivation. other thing s things we know so prisoners died as a result of these tactics. led me read to you the main finding from the senate. that the enhanced interrogation did not produce otherwise unavailable information necessary to save lives. that s something the cia will push back very hard on because they believe that people in the bush administration and the cia believe this program did save lives. they say it s a program they disavowed. that they would never do this again and that it was wrong but they can t they say you cannot say it produced valuable intelligence and that it s unknowable whether it would have been gotten otherwise. as you mentioned, the findings are that the program was ineffective. that the cia misled the white house, it misled congress and the justice department about what it was doing. that the program was far more brutal in the tactics being used against these detainees. we know one detainee at one location died after he was held naked for days chained to a wall and that he died of hypothermia, for example. so that s another finding in this report. we also are told from the report that the program produced inaccurate information. it led to the fbi and the cia having to chase down leads that turned out to be nothing because people misread information, because, for example, khalid sheikh mohammed, while he was being waterboarded, admitted to things that the cia wanted him to admit to which turned out to be false and not true. so, again, these are some very ugly findings that we expect. we have a bunch of people here at cnn poring over the details of this report. we ll expect to have some more. evan, stick around. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. we are getting the details of what is inside the senate intelligence committee report on cia techniques to get information from terror suspects during the bush administration evan perez outlined what the techniques were, harsher than what the situation was told at the time. misrepresented, evan just reported to the administration at the time. evan also inside this report there is an open question about what the cia was telling the president. whether the president, in fact, knew what the cia was doing at some of these black sites. that s right, john. that s something i think we re going to end the day here without really knowing the full answer. we know that president bush in his own biography says that he knew full well what was going on. he was in control and he authorized this program. we know that the justice department authorized this program. however. the cia documents don t indicate that he was ever briefed until 2006. so while a lot of the abuses that are described in this report are going on, 2002, 2003, 2004, the president was not being briefed. we know that at some point the cia was preparing to brief some of the top officials in the bush administration but then they decided not to in part because according to some of the documents they were afraid that it was going to leak and in particular the colin powell would blow his lid is what i think one description of this the way how this was described in reaction to what was being done. to be clear, president george w. bush in an interview can w candy karolyi made it clear he stands behind what the cia did and what happened during his administration. vice president dick cheney very publicly as well. evan, stick around. i want to go to our chief correspondent dana bash. already i can see republicans lashing out at this report. some republicans where you are are calling it fiction. that s right. and you just saw senators were voting. our team is talking to senators while they re coming off of the senate floor. one of whom is senator richard brr. he is going to be the next chair of the senate intelligence committee, the next dianne feinstein, if you will. republican. he called it fiction. he told our ted barrett that he does not believe that this is an accurate portrayal of what really went on because he says that the committee and its staff didn t interview everybody involved, the operatives in particular. he said that they got their facts wrong and it went on from there. it s no secret that most of the republicans on the intelligence committee did not like this, did not cooperate and they re going to have their own kind of rebuttal report, if you will. so that is exactly the kind of thing that we are hearing. not just concern about the fact that this information is being released and what it could mean for the security of americans but questioning the actual content of this report in general. dana bash, thanks so much. i want to go to the white house. they, of course, are watching very closely what is happening on capitol hill and we are awaiting a speech any minute now from senator dianne feinstein, the chair of the senate select committee on intelligence. jim acosta at the white house. the link to the report is posted. the cia has had days to look at it already. what is their official response now that it s been posted. well, there is a response from the president to this report that s being released by the senate intelligence committee, john, and it is pretty scathing, i have to tell you. at the beginning of this statement the president says that he understands that the previous administration, the bush administration, had agonizing choices to make but that some of the choices they made were contrary to our values. and then the president goes on to say about this enhanced interrogation technique program and about the report, it says the report documents a troubling program involving enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects in secret facilities outside the united states and it reinforces my long-held view that these harsh methods were not only inconsistent with our values as a nation, they did not serve our broader counterterrorism efforts or our national security interesting. moreover, these techniques did significant damage to america s standing in the world and made it harder to pursue our interests with allies and partners. john, we should mention that the cia has also released its own response to this senate intelligence committee report and it also in a statement from the cia director john brennan says that they did not always live up to their values at the agency in carrying out this program. so it is a as e van said, a dark day for the cia and at the same time the white house will be doing a lot of explaining. at the same time, because it took years for this to come to light the white house will face question about why it took so long. it s a scathing report from one administration about the previous administration. jim, what is the white house response about whether president obama has spoken to former president george w. bush about this? they have had dealings over the years. we don t know whether or not president obama and president obama have talked about this. my sense of it is that they have not. but this is an interesting question for this president because as we were saying earlier, john, you know, president obama came into office seeing things in a black-and-white fashion. when it came to this program and over the years as he s had to wage for what the war on terrorism and as he tried to wind it down and now he s ratcheting it back up again and the war on isis, he is finding that he also has to do things that perhaps might make people crazy on capitol hill. in terms of snooping on americans, the surveillance going nonthis country and around the world. so those are tactics and programs and thing this president has done that make civil libertarians tear their hair out and might have made a former senator obama tear his hair out when he was running for president in 2008. so it s interesting to see how they ve tried to get this information out there. knowing there could be ramification once it makes its way around the world, john? jim acosta at the white house, stand by. i want to bring back evan perez who has been going through this report which has just been released. evan, in addition to outlining the details of what techniques were used and where they were used, one of the most scathing claims is the cia misrepresented what they were doing to policymakers and the american public. can you give my specifics about what exactly they said and didn t say and the extent of these misrepresentations? if you look at this program, it was authorize bid this president. i van, i m sorry, i need to cut you off, senator dianne feinstein, the chair of the senate select committee presenting the report right now. the senate intelligence committee s five and a half year review of the cia s detention and interrogation program which was conducted between 2002 and 2009 is being released publicly. the executive summary which is going out today is backed by a 6,700 page classified and unredacted report with 38,000 footnote which is can be released if necessary at a later time. the report released today examines the cia s secret overseas detention of at least 119 individuals and the use of coercive interrogation techniques, in some cases amounting to torture. over the past couple of weeks, i ve gone through a great deal of intro special election about whether to delay the release of this report to a later time. this clearly is a period of turmoil and instability in many parts of the world. unfortunately, that s going to continue for the foreseeable future. whether this report is released or not. there are those who seize upon the report and say see what the americans did? and they will try to use it to justify evil actions or incite more violence. we can t prevent that. but history will judge us by our commitment to a just society governed by law and the willingness to face an ugly truth. and say never again. there may never be the right time to release this report. the instability we see today won t be resolved in months or years but this report is too important to shelve indefinitely. there there has been a campaign of mistaken statements and press articles launched against the report before anyone has had the chance to read it. as a matter of fact, the report is just now as i speak being released. this is what it looks like. senator chambliss asked me if we could have the minority report bound with the majority report. for draft that is not possible but in the final draft it will be bound together. but this is what the summary of the 6,000 pages look like. my words give me no pleasure. i m releasing this report because i know there are thousands of employees at the cia who do not condone what i will speak about this morning and who worked day and night long hours, within the law, for america s security in what is certainly a difficult world my colleagues on the intelligence committee and i am proud of them, just as everyone in this chamber is. and we will always support them. in reviewing this study this in the past few days, with a decision looming over the public release, i was struck by a quote found on page 126 of the executive summary. it cites the former cia inspector general john held gerson who in 2005 wrote the following to the then-director of the cia which clearly states the situation with respect to this report years later as well. and i quote. we have found that the agency over the decades has continued to get itself intoes mes related to interrogation programs for one overriding reason. we do not document and learn from our experience. each generation of officers is left to improvise anew with problematic results for our offices as individuals and for our agency. i believe that to be true. i agree with mr. helgerson. his comments are true today but this must change. on march 11, 2009, the committee voted 14-1 to begin a review of the cia s detention and interrogation program. over the past five years, a small team of committee investigators pored over the more than 6.3 million pages of cia records the leader spoke about to complete this report or what we call the study. it shows that the cia s actions a decade ago are a stain on our value and history. the release of this 500 page summary cannot remove that stain. but it can and does say to our people and the world that america is big enough to admit when it s wrong and confident enough to learn from its mistakes. releasing this report is an important step to restore our valuings and show the world that we are in fact a just and lawful society over the next hour, i d like to lay out for the senators and the american public the report s findings and. when i complete this, i asked that senator mccain berecognized. before i get to the substance, i d like to make a few comments about why it s so important that we make this study public. all of us have vivid memories of that tuesday morning when terror struck new york, washington, and pennsylvania. september 11, 2011, war was declared on the united states. terrorists struck our financial center. they struck our military center and they tried to strike our political center and would have had brave and courageous passengers not brought down the plane. we still vividly remember the mix of outrage and deep despair and sadness as we watched from washington. smoke rising from the pentagon. the passenger plane lying in a pennsylvania field. the sound of bodies hitting canopies as innocents jumped from the world trade center. mass terror that we often see abroad had struck us directly from our front yard, killing 3,000 innocent men, women, and children. what happened? we came together as a nation with one singular mission bring those who committed these rackets to justice. but it s at this point where the values of america come into play, where the rule of law and the fundamental principles of right and wrong become important. in 1990, the united states senate ratify it had convention against torture. the convention makes clear that this ban against torture is absolute. it says, and i quote no exceptional circumstances whatsoever, including what i just read. whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency may be invoked as a justification for torture. nonetheless it was argued that the need for information on possible additional terrorist plots after 9/11 made extraordinary interrogation techniques necessary. even if one were to set aside all of the moral arguments, our review was a meticulous and detailed examination of records. it finds that coercive interrogation techniques did not produce the vital otherwise unavailable intelligence the cia has claimed. i will go into further detail on this issue in a moment, but let me make clear, these comments are not a condemnation of the cia as a whole. the cia plays an incredibly important part in our nation s security. and has thousands of dedicated and talented employees. what we have found is that a surprisingly few people were responsible for designing, carrying out and managing this program. two contractors led the interrogations. there was little effective oversight. analysts on occasion gave operational orders that interrogations and cia management of the program was weak and diffused. our final report was approved by a bipartisan vote of 9-6 in december, 2012, and exposed brutality in stark contrast to our values as a nation. this effort was focused on the actions of the cia from late 2001 to january of 2009. the report does not include considerable detail on the cia s interactions with the white house. it does including, excuse me, considerable detail on the cia s interactions with the white house, the departments of justice, state, defense, and the senate intelligence committee. the review is based on contemporaneous records and documents during the time the program was in place and active. now, these documents are important because they aren t based on recollection. they aren t based on revision and they aren t a rationalization a decade later. it s these documents referenced repeatedly in thousands of footnotes that provide the factual basis for the study s conclusions. the committee s majority staff reviewed more than 6.3 million pages of these documents provided by by the cia as well as records from other departments and agencies. these records include finished intelligence assessments, cia operational and intelligence cables, memoranda, e-mails, realtime chat sessions, inspector general reports, testimony before congress, pictures, and other internal records. it s true we didn t conduct our own interviews, and let me tell you why that was the case. in 2009 there was an ongoing review by department of justice special prosecutor john durham. on august 24, attorney general holder expanded that review. this occurred six months after our study had begun. durham s original investigation of the cia s destruction of interrogation videotapes was broadened to include possible criminal actions of cia employees in the course of cia detention and interrogation activities. at the time, the committee s vice chairman, kit bond, withdrew the minority s participation in the study citing the attorney general s expanded investigation as the reason. the department of justice refused to coordinate its investigation with the intelligence committee s review. as a result, possible interviewees could be subject to additional liability if they were interviewed and the cia, citing the attorney general s investigation. would not instruct its employees to participate in interviews. notwithstanding this, i am really confident of the factual accuracy and comprehensive nature of this report for three reasons. first, it s the 6.3 million pages of documents reviewed and they reveal records of actions as those actions took place, not through recollections more than a decade later. second, the cia and cia s senior officers have taken the opportunity to explain their views on cia detention and interrogation operations. they have done this in on-the-record statements, in classified committee hearings. written testimony and answer to questions and through the formal response to the committee the in june, 2013, after reading the study. and, third, the committee had access to and utilized an extensive set of reports of interviews conducted by the cia inspector general and the cia s oral history program so while we could not conduct new interviews of individuals we did utilize transcripts or some reis of interviews of those directly engaged in detention and interrogation operations. this covered the exact topics we would have asked about had we conducted interviews ourselves. these interview reports and transcripts included but were not limited to the following. george tenant, director of the cia when the agency took custody and interrogate it had majority of detainees. jose rodriguez direct o of the cia s counterterrorism center, a key player in the program. cia general council scott muller, cia deputy director of operations, cia acting general council john riz strkso and cia deputy director john mclaughlin. and a variety of interrogate pors, lawyers, medical personnel senior counterterrorism analyst and managers of the detention and interrogation program. the best place to start about how we got into this and i m delighted that senator rockefeller is on the floor is a little more than eight years ago on september 6, 2006. when the committee met to be briefed by then director michael hayden. at that 2006 meeting, the full committee meeting learned for the first time of the use of so talled enhanced interrogation techniques or eits. it was a short meeting in part because president bush was making a public speech later that day disclosing officially for the first time the existence of cia black sites and announcing the transfer of 14 detainees from cia custody to guantanamo bay, cuba. it was the first time interrogation program was explained to the full committee as details had previously been limited to the chairman and vice chairman. then on september december 7, 2007, the new york times reported that cia personnel in 2005 had destroyed videotapes of the interrogation of two cia detainees. the cia s first detainee, abu a buy da souix bayda. days later, on december 11, 2007, the committee held a hearing on the destruction of the videotapes. director hayden, the primary witness, testified that the cia had concluded that the destruction of videotapes was acceptable in part because congress had not yet requested to see them. my source is our committee s transcript, december 11, 2007. director hayden stated that if the committee had asked for the videotapes they would have been provided by but of course the committee had not known the videotapes existed. and we now know from cia e-mails and records that the videotapes were destroyed shortly after cia attorneys raised concerns that congress might find out about the tapes. in any case at that same december 11 committee hearing, director hayden told the commit teal that cia cables related to the interrogation sessions depicted in the videotapes were, and i quote, a more than adequate representation of the tapes and therefore if you want them, we ll give you access to them. that s our transcript, december 11, 2007 hearing. senator rockefeller, then chairman of the committee, designated two members of the committee staff to review the cables describing the interrogation sessions of abu zubaida and al nashiri. senator bond similarly directed two of his staffers to review the cables. the designated staff members completed their review and compiled a summary of the content of the cia cables by early 2009 by which time i had become chairman. the description in the cables of cia s interrogations and the treatment of detainees pressed a starkly different picture from director hayden s testimony before the committee. they described brutal around-the-clock interrogations, especially of abu zubaida in which multiple coercive techniques were used in combination and with substantial reputation. it was an ugly, visceral description. the summary also indicated that abu zubaida did not provide the kind of intelligence that led the cia to stop terrorist plots or arrest additional suspects. as a result, i think it s fair to say the entire committee was concerned and it approved the scope of an investigation by a vote of 14-1 and the work began. in my march 11, 2014, floor speech about the study, i described how, in 2009, the committee came to an agreement with the new cia director, leon panetta, for access to documents and other records about the cia s detention and interrogation program. so i won t repeat that here. from 2009 to 2012 our staff conducted a massive and unprecedented review of cia recor records. draft sections of the report were produced by late 2011 and shared with the full committee. the final report was completed in . and approved by the committee by a bipartisan vote of 9-6. after that vote, i sent the full report to the president and asked the administration to provide comments on it before it was released. six months later, in june of 2013, the cia responded. i directed them that if the cia pointed out any error in our report, we would fix it. and we did fix one bullet point that did not impact our findings and conclusions. if the cia came to a different conclusion than the report did, we would note that in the report and explain our reasons for disagreeing if we disagree. and you will see some of that documented in the footnotes of that executive summary as well as in the 6,000 pages. in april 2014, the committee prepared an updated version of the full study and voted 12-3 to declassify and release the executive summary, findings and conclusions and minority and additional views. on august 1, we received a declassified version from the executive branch. it was immediately apparent that the redactions to our report prevented a clear and understandable reading of the study and prevented us from substantiating the findings and conclusions so we obviously objected. for the past four months, the committee and the cia, the director of national intelligence and the white house have engaged in a lengthy negotiation over the redactions to the report. we have been able to include some more information in the report today without sacrificing sources and methods of our or our national security. i d like to ask, following my remarks, that a letter from the white house dated yesterday conveying the report also points out that the report is 93% complete a that the redactions amount to 7% of the bulk of the report. without objection. thank you, mr. president. this has been a long process. the work began seven years ago when senator rockefeller directed the committee staff to review the cia cables describing the cables of abu zubaydah and that this nation should never again engage in these tactics. let me now turn to the contents of the study. as i noted, we have 20 findings and conclusions which fall in the four general categories. first, the cia s enhanced interrogation techniques were not an effective way to gather intelligence information. second, the cia provided extensive amounts of inaccurate information about the operation of the program and effectiveness to the white house, the department of justice, congress, the cia inspector general, the media and the american public. third, the cia s management of the program was inadequate and deeply flawed. and fourth, the cia program was far more brutal than people were led to believe. the first findings talk about the effectiveness or lack there of and found that the coercion techniques were not an effective means of acquiring accurate intelligence or gaining detainee cooperation. the cia and other defenders of the program have repeatedly claimed that the use of so-called interrogation techniques was necessary to get detainees to provide critical information. the study concludes that both claims are inaccurate. the report is very specific in how it evaluates the cia s claims on the effect i haveness and necessity of its enhanced infair gags techniques. specifically, we used the cia s own definition of effectiveness as ratified and approved fts office of the legal counsel counsel. they claim that it was necessary to obtain, quote, otherwise available, end quote, information. that could not be obtained from any other source to stop terrorist attacks and save american lives. that s a claim we conclude is inaccurate. these include cases of terrorist plots stopped or terrorist captured. the cia used these examples in presentation to the white house, in testimony to congress, in subfigures missions to the department of justice and ultimately to the american people. some of the claims are well known. the capture of khalid sheikh mohammed and the takedown of osama bin lad d osama bin ladin. in each case, the cia claimed that critical and unique information came from one or more detainees in its custody after they were subjected to the cia s coercive techniques. and that information led to specific counterterrorism success. our staff reviewed every one of the 20 cases. and not a single case holds up. in every single one of these cases, at least one of the following was true. one, the intelligence community had information separate from the use of uits that led to the terrorist disruption or capture. two, information from a detainee subjected to eits played no roles in the claimed disruption or capture and, three, the purported terrorist plot either did not exist or posed no real threat to americans or united states interests. some critics have suggested the study concludes that no intelligence was ever provided for any detainee the cia held. that is false. and the study makes no such claim. what is true that actionable intelligence that was, quote, otherwise unavailable, otherwise unavailable was not obtained using these coercive interrogation techniques. the report also chronicles where the techniques that do not involve physical force were effective. specifically, the report provides examples where they confront detainees with facts. know when they were lying and when they applied rapport building techniques that were developed and honed by the united states military, the fbi and, more recently, the interagency high value detainee group, that these techniques produced good intelligence. let me make a few other comments on the claimed effectiveness of the cia interrogations. at no time did the cia coercive interrogation techniques lead to the collection of intelligence on an imminent threat that many believe was the justification for these techniques. the committee never found an example of this hypothetical ticking time bomb scenario. the use of coercive technique methods regularly resulted in fabricated information. sometime the cia new detainees
structure structures in our political system, as envisioned by the founders, that sometimes they re going to disadvantage democrats, but the truth of the matter is, is that if we have a strong message, if we re speaking to what the american people care about, typically you know, the popular vote and the electoral college vote will align, and i guess part of my overall message here as i leave for the holidays is that if we looked for one explanation or one silver bullet, or one easy fix for our politics, then we re probably initiative and school nutrition program is a greater threat to democracy than our government going after the press if they re issuing a story we don t like. i mean that s an issue that i think we ve got to wrestle with. and we will. people asked me how do you feel after the election? i say well, look, this is a clarifying moment. it s a useful reminder that voting counts, politics counts, what the president-elect is going to be doing is going to be very different than what i was doing, and i think people will be able to compare and contrast and make judgments about what worked for the american people, listen to some of what he said there. in early september, when i saw president putin in china, i felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn t happen was to talk to him directly, and tell him to cut it out, and there were going to be some serious consequences if if he didn t. reporter: okay, now that warning and there will be consequences, obviously that didn t stop this process of selective leaks, of continued hacks that we know from intelligence officials still continue to this day. so obviously that warning of consequences was ineffective and the president didn t really address that aspect of it, but i think what he tried to do throughout this press conference was explain his behavior, his choices in great detail, and also defend them, and we saw a defense of how he handled the hacking initially. we saw a defense of the fbi and how they acted, defense of the timing of the release of that information, and also an extensive defense on how the u.s. has handled the situation, the absolutely wrenching situation ongoing in aleppo. listen to some of that. part of the goal here was to make sure that we did not do the work of the leakers for them by raising more and more questions about the integrity of the election right before the leck was taking place, at a time, by the way, when the president-elect himself was raising questions about the integrity of the election. reporter: so there you heard his defense of the timing, of naming russia, of the political forces involved. of course, you know, how that happened, how it all played out ultimately is the open debate that s raging right now. i mean, there has been criticism of how that happened coming not just from republicans, from democrats. so the president wanted to lay out why they felt in fact he spelled it out in those words. he said that he felt that he did what he should have done, how his administration handled it. he feels that his administration allowed the intelligence community to do their jobs, and he kind of left it at that. he also didn t want to wade too far into other, you know, really difficult issues right now like the electors, who might not vote, cast their votes for donald trump. the criticism of the fbi and coming from democrats that that may have contributed to the outcome of the election, so there are things that, you know, as expected, he didn t want to go into too much detail on but you saw him here wanting to fully take this opportunity at length to explain his decisions and once again maybe for the last time try to make the case to the american public of why he felt he was doing, you know, the best under the circumstances, and trying to protect them. jake? michelle kosinski at the white house thanks so much. the now to how the u.s. came to point fingers at russia. sources confirming an internal message sent from cia director john brennan that the fbi and u.s. intelligence, the national security director, as well, sorry the director of national intelligence as well as the director of the cia, all of them, including the fbi russia tried to undermine u.s. politics and this is important, this is significant, and that one of their motivations was to try to help donald trump win the election. joining me now cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. jim, there has not been unanimity on what the motivation of russia was. the news that the fbi now agrees with cia director brennan, that seems significant. well it is. i think one point to make is that there was less disagreement than some reporting and then some gop lawmakers have been saying, speaking to multiple officials both in the intelligence agencies and in law enforceme enforcement, this is what is new today. cia director john brennan feeling the need to write the entire cia staff an internal message that said the following, there is strong consensus on the scope, nature and zpent jake noted it was key of russian hacking. let me add this caveat. you never know intent for sure, that s looking into the minds of president vladimir putin and people working for him. their analysis is there were multiple intents, one undermine the political process, sow doubts here in america about the presidential election. in addition to that weaken hillary clinton through the releases of emails and internal communications and thereby help donald trump. my understanding from speaking to multiple intelligence officials is that early on, even russia may not have judged that donald trump was going to win this election, but as he continued to improve his chances, there say perception, judgment and assessment inside the cia that they believe russia went, in effect, all-in for donald trump. again, that s their assessment with the necessary caveats that they can t know for sure but another thing here. there have been reports out there, also been charges you might say from lawmakers that the fbi and the cia are disagreeing that the cia is alone in making this assessment, that the intention may very well have been to help donald trump. in fact i m told by people on both sides of the river that, is from law enforcement and intelligence agencies that that disaxwreegreement is overblown. they find that plausible and the cia believes it has more evidence that was the the case. i ve spoken to a lot of people inside the agencies. there is enormous frustration and anger among intelligence agents and analysts and the cia, and a number of things, attacks on them, questioning of the work that they do, charges that they are politicizing the intelligence here, going in for hillary clinton, say by making this assessment. enormous frustration there. they re trying to do their job and what you re hearing in this communication from the cia director to them, listen, we re on the same page. don t hear what you say about disagreement between us and the cia. we like what you re doing, we respect what you re doing, up necessary message. let s bring in our panel now to talk about the president s press conference, we have usa today columnist keirston powers, republican pollster kristen soltis anderson, senior political analyst david gergen, as well as david axelrod. and let me start with you, keirston. the president coming out making a strong defense of himself, of his administration, of the decisions he s made and very specifically criticizing not just the russians, but things that donald trump, the president-elect, has said and done regarding russia. he also was pretty critical of the media as well, he felt the media didn t do their job covering the issue appropriately, that the media went overboard in covering things that he referred to was in the wikileaks emails basically sort of routine information that was embarrassing but shouldn t be getting the front page coverage that it was getting and basically saying we put the information out there and you guys didn t do enough with it and i actually agree with him on the coverage of the more salacious or silly stuff that wasn t relevant. i don t necessarily agree on the other side. i think it s the job of the people in power to make issues for people for the press to follow them and highlight them for being important, that s how things often get covered, and that s how people often know what s important. kristen, president obama citing a poll that suggests that 37% of republicans in the united states have a favorable impression of vladimir putin. i believe that s a higher favorable rating among republicans than president obama has, and his point being was that donald trump the president-elect has been cozying up for want of a better word, praising putin. we have become a very tribal nation so when people are listening to these poll questions they re responding from sort of partisan instincts. you ve seen not only improvements in the flafrt toward vladimir putin but wikileaks, where three years ago those numbers flipped p republicans slightly more positive toward wikileaks and a lot of this was in part aided by much of the discussion before the election about the need for this election to be taken seriously and treated as legitimate and now republicans, having won the election are feeling a little bit like well you told us we needed to accept these results. now we re being told this election was illegitimate. i think that s some of the emotional response. maybe we like vladimir putin and we like wikileaks. it s not all republicans and you ll see in some of the confirmation hearings for the secretary of state, some republican senators who are opposed to what russia is doing. some of the conflicts between existing republican senators and the new president-elect potentially coming out. at one point president obama knew about these hacks and suggested of course he did. take a listen to that. the intelligence that i ve seen gives me great confidence in their assessment that the russians carried out this hack. not much happens in russia without vladimir putin. let me go to david axelrod now and david, did anything president obama say surprise you? it seemed to me that he was very aggressively linking donald trump and the russians and i don t know that that s going to help make the case to the country, which some of whom did vote for donald trump, the president-elect that this russian hack should be taken very seriously. first of all on the previous point about the poll, i think the point he was trying to make is not that a third of the republicans are soft on putin, but the point that kristen made, which is that we have become so polarized, that even on something like putin, partisan tribal instincts kick in and you see these great shifts and what he was making the case that we shouldn t do that. i actually thought, jake, that he was trying not to be, to done thematory of donald trump, but he was making a point that trump, throughout the campaign, has or throughout this issue has minimized and dismissed this, and there s a danger in that. his overarching point it seemed to me was this was an incursion on our national sovereignty. this is not a democratic issue or a republican issue. setting aside of what the intent or motivation was, it was an alarming intrusion on our political process by vladimir putin, and that should be a source of concern to everyone, and on this point, jim sciutto mentioned earlier how dismayed the intelligence community, i assume the fbi is about the characterization of their roles in this. i thought one important part of this press conference was the president s stout defense of those people who do that work. he was talking about the fbi and he said they work hard, they save lives. it s important for the president of the united states to stand up for our institutions, and i think the president was trying very hard to do that in this press conference. david gergen let s talk about that last point. obviously the fbi just in the last 4 hours has really been under fire by former secretary of state hillary clinton, who in a room full of donors faulted james comey for the letter and her, what she perceives to be his interference in the election, costing her the election, and then john podesta, hillary clinton s campaign chairman, today in the washington post laying out in an op-ed how he thinks the fbi is really performing in a subpar manner and its behavior during the election was indefensible in john podesta s view. as david axelrod pointed out president obama a strong defender of the fbi today. he was a very strong defender of the fbi, and i think, jake, his whole press conference underscored just how dramatic a change we are having in american government. ever since the end of world war ii, when one president has succeeded another, the two presidents, the old one and new one almost always agree on the nature of the threat we face as americans, but disagree sometimes on the means of dealing with it. in this case, president obama has a completely different view of the threat we face from russia than donald trump does. he lay squarely on the russia, at the russian s feet, blamed for what s happening in aleppo we wouldn t have this slaughter were it not for the russians bringing in armaments and saving assad and the question on the election and the hacking. the russians are squarely behind that and here we ve got donald trump coming in with a completely different sense of reality in effect going we want to cozy up to the russians. vladimir putin can be our friend. he s the strong man i admire. i admire him and 37% of the american people follow along with trump and say that, too. we re in new territory here on so many different fronts, and i think it makes the trump presidency not just fascinating but it also makes it, you know, very, very, makes people feel very uneasy in washington in places like the fein and the cia, where they want to do their jobs and they fear they have a president who comes in, who is coming in, who is hostile toward them, who has a very different sense of reality and they don t know where that goes. of course, at home you might be forgiven for wondering if russia did all of this as the u.s. intelligence agencies and president obama allege russian officials did. what is the united states going to do about it? president obama did briefly address that. take a listen. i told russia to stop it, and indicated there will be consequences when they do it. our goal continues to be to send a clear message to russia or others not to do this stuff because we can do this stuff to you. clarissa ward is live in moscow. president obama saying there will be consequences for russia s actions. has moscow reacted to that threat yet and do they worry at all, given the fact that they are so overjoyed, according to your reporting and others, with the election of donald trump? reporter: well there s been no official response yet, and i wouldn t hold your breath in terms of any major shift in the russian party line which has been this is ludicrous, this is nonsense, prove it or move on. it s indecent, was the word the kremlin spokesperson used today to describe these constant accusations but i think you also heard president obama during that press conference really illuminating the two main reasons that it is so difficult to respond to russia and to respond to president putin in particular. the first one being that naming and shaming don t work. naming russia doesn t work because russia just denies it, whether it s hacking, whether it s when the little green men first appeared in crimea, you might remember president putin initially denied there was anything going on there. shaming we ve seen clearly doesn t work as in aleppo particularly, in that example. so there s a sense that you have a tough situation on your hands as a u.s. president, when you re trying to respond to something like this, because you can t name, you can t shame and the second difficulty becomes that because russia is engaging in what is essentially hybrid warfare, you can t really respond in a conventional way and you certainly can t respond in a public way, and unlike president vladimir putin, who doesn t really have to answer to his voters, i think the u.s. president does feel some pressure from the american people to answer to them to explain what is being done to punish russia or to retaliate or ensure something like this never happens again, and what president obama was essentially saying there is you can t really do that in this type of situation. so he then says i can t illuminate for you, i can t tell you exactly how i m going to respond and i m sure that s bound to leave some people feeling was that a weak answer, is it a copout? why won t he name president putin directly and say exactly what s going to be done in terms of retaliation. it struck me it illustrates some of the ways in which it is so difficult to respond to the unique set of threats that russia and president putin present to the u.s. jake? clarissclarissa, let me ask h your senior international correspondent hat, somebody who has covered what s going on in syria, from the front lines, president obama said he feels responsible every time he sees images from syria, whether it s children being killed by sniper fire or anyone being slaughtered but that ultimately, he said i understand the impulse to try to do something, but then ultimately when it came to a decision and finding a decision on what to do about syria and the civil war, finding a solution that was sustainable and realistic and good for the united states, that he ended up where he ended up and he doesn t know that it s successful but he doesn t know that he would arrive at a different decision, having covered what s going on in syria, what was your response when you heard him say that? i think my response was it s clear that president obama, that this does weigh on him heavily. he has said this a number of times, that it keeps him up at night, that he does feel some sort of responsibility. i think maybe privately he might acknowledge that there was a window at some point where the u.s. probably could have done more, where the u.s. potentially could have saved more lives, but what we ve seen the president do over and over again is try to present syria as a situation where there were only two options open to the u.s. do a little bit of not that much, which is what the u.s. ultimately went for, or go full scale boots on the ground, hundreds of thousands of troops invasion. personally, from what i have seen on the ground, from what i have heard from allies who were supporting the rebels, i do believe there was a middle ground option, although i do not think anyone would argue that there have ever been any easy answers in syria, but certainly we ve seen president obama repeatedly try to present this as it was a choice between what we did or a full scale invasion and i still think i did the right thing by doing what we did. obviously he s interested in preserving his legacy but i think you heard there as he talked about the ways in which he s haunted by quha is happening in syria he is aware history may not be so kind t may be a stain on his legacy. david axelrod, there are no easy answers about syria, but do you accept that president obama largely tries to present this as the two choices, either not really do much of anything, which is what s going on right now, or full scale invasion, and he kind of leaves out the fact that there were other options, including more fully arming syrian moderate rebels, creating a no fly zone, trying more emphatically to get arab nation troops on the ground there. what is your insight? first of all just knowing him as i do, when he says he anguishes over this, i know that to be true. i don t think anything influences him more than children. he said this is the first time i cried in the oval office, and whenever a child is in distress or being wronged, he s also someone who tend to ask the question then what? the question that wasn t asked when the invasion of iraq took place, so you heard him articulate it here. i don t think he was particularly defensive today. he was laying out his reasoning and history will judge whether it was right or wrong. his reasoning this would have sucked us into a conflict that would have grown and would have enveloped us in the way the past conflict did and the country could not afford that, couldn t stand that. whether he would disagree i m sure there was a viable middle ground and that again will be debated by history but i don t think anyone should conclude that he was looking for a way not to solve this problem i think he desperately wanted to find a seclusion. you talk to people around the white house this is something that haunts them. david gergen, it does seem as though presidents and historians judge themselves harshly when it comes to inaction in situations such as this, i m thinking about president bill clinton and rwanda. the public doesn t really have much interest getting involved in foreign wars or better or worse, often for worse when it comes to innocent lives being slaughtered. that s a very good point, jake. it s certainly true that george w. bush will be remembered far more for going into iraq than president obama remembered for staying out of syria. the syrian situation became a lot more complicated when there was a dramatic turning point when the russians got in. that made it a lot harder to look at any middle ground, and this thing has gone south ever since that happened. the russians have been blocking actions of the u.n. you would think by this time the u.n. would have teams in there to save these poor civilians and when you have the russian blocking thing you can t get anywhere. i just think that s why donald trump represents 180-degree turn in how we think about the russians, how to respond to them and how to move ahead in the world. kristen, what tuning about president obama s response when it came to talking about aleppo? he said i cannot claim that my strategy has been successful. i appreciate that president obama is anguished as we are when we see the horrific footage and photos. anguish doesn t save the children of alep poe. there have been folks all along before russia got involved that have been saying we need to arm moderate rebels there, because now you have situations where you have cities that were first taken by isis, liberated by assad and liberated from isis, because the one good potential side was never fully supported by the u.s. so a feckless half measure led us to where we are and created a vacuum where russia was able to step in and take stronger measures. president-elect donald trump sounds less interested in getting involved in syria and iraq than president obama was. i also think to a certain extent we don t know what would have happened if we armed the rebels. now the people can say if we just would have armed the rebels all of these great things would have happened. it could have easily gone badly. we ve armed rebels in the past and it s gone badly. we didn t know who the rebels were so we could be giving arms to potentially isis actually. the president did a painstaking step by step going through all of the different things he had to think through making this decision and it weighs heavily on him and i think he was in a really tough decision in making this call, and in a way we ll never really know whether it would have made a difference or not. kristen, kirsten, david, david, thank you so much. our breaking news coverage. congressman sean duffy, republican of wisconsin, when we come back will weigh in on president obama s final news conference of the year. stay with us. don t stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i m not contagious. see me to know that. .i won t stop 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if you remember in the middle of october trmp trrp was saying this election was going to be rigged. i ve come on cnn the election s not going to be requirigged. fair and free. president obama said to donald trump stop whining, mag the case to the american people. never did he say russia was involved in this election and now after the election the president s come out and we see leaks from the intelligence department, media reports have come out as well about russian involvement. the problem that we have is, we haven t seen any reports yet. the intelligence community hasn t come to the hill and briefed deb nunez, nor senator ron johnson, chairman of homeland security in the senate so we have great reservation how this played out and i think a key point is, one, if russia was involved, russia s hacking, i want to know that. i think the american people deserve to know that but the truth is, i agree with barack obama. we had a free and fair election, all votes that were cast were counted and the dnc hack or the hack in to clinton clintonhilla email through john podesta, nobody cared about the attacks. this didn t drive the opinion. they looked at the economy, security and strong leadership. they didn t care that the dnc was involved helping hillary clinton over bernie sanders or some of the internal scandals and strive inside the hillary clinton campaign that came out through the podesta emails. those were nonfactors so the hack didn t impact the outcome but that they were trying, we should actually know about that and i support any investigation to find out what involvement they are trying to have. one other point, jake, russia should be pretty good at hacking and if we re going to have some influence, try to have some real influence on the election. they were miserable failures if they just did the dnc and podesta. you might be conflating the idea of hacking into voting machines to change vote counts. that s one of the things that i think was being debated before the election, whether there would be an attempt to do that and that obviously did not happen and i think that s what president obama talked about before the election in terms of go out and make your case, but then in terms of what effect did the election, i mean i guess we don t know. hillary clinton could have gone to wisconsin after the convention, your home state and the kremlin didn t tell her not to do that. there s any number of factors that could have played a role, we re talking about 80,000 votes in three states and hillary clinton would be president-elect right now, so the idea that maybe this played a role, we ll never know but maybe it did. surely you would want to know what russia did. sounds like that s what you re saying, that congress needs to get to the bottom of it. i totally agree with that but i do think sometimes i think the media can conflate the two as well and say russia hacked and then therefore had an influgs on the election. i can speak for my part of the state of wisconsin, and it had no bearing on the decision that the people made on who they were going to vote for. it was embarrassing stuff but not really things that drove the electorate one way or the other, in my opinion, from the voters that i saw, and again going back to president obama s statements at the beginning in the middle of october, you know, if there was hacks coming in from russia, he should have talked about that with donald trump and said you know what? there is an issue here. this election could be rigged not by the voting machines but because of russian influence and we should have had a whole vetting of that in october but if not why won t the intelligence community come to the hill and vet members of congress? why are we getting this information through leaks instead of in a secure setting on the hill? that s a head scratcher for a lot of us in congress. we look forward to them briefing you and open hearings as well. congressman duffy thanks so much, appreciate your time thanks, jake. hillary clinton s campaign manager says the fbi s handling of the russian hacking shows something is deeply broken at the agency. does the nation s top law enforcement official agree? i ll ask attorney general loretta lynch next. y red tag sa. this thing is a beast. steel or aluminum? steel. why? science. it s gonna hold up over aluminum, big time. you can get special holiday pricing and when you find your red tag, you get thousands more cash back. that s two deals in one. two deals sound better than one. that s a for-sure thing for me. during the red tag sales event, get two deals in one. find your tag for an average total value over ninety-six hundred dollars on chevy silverado all stars. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. what makesheart healthysalad the becalifornia walnuts.r? the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. signer attack on u.s. election systems, blames a long time grudge held by russian president vladimir putin. john podesta also took some time and blame for the sprawling hack that ensnared her candidacy. he faulted failures at the fbi and podesta called out fbi director james comey. now the fbi however is pushing back. evan perez joins me now. evan, you ve been reporting on fbi warnings of attempted hacks since the summer. how do you recall officials describing their response? jake, i think what s happening right now is members of the clinton campaign are trying to explain to their supporters how they lost this election and hillary clinton met with some of our donors and she described it this way. take a listen. we have to recognize that, as the latest reports made clear, vladimir putin himself directed the covert cyber attacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against mimi. against me. hillary clinton s campaign manager john podesta wrote an op-ed in the washington post in addition to the fact that the fbi director sent these letters just before the election that talked about the finding of new emails, he also said that the fbi did not work hard enough to investigate the dnc hacks, certainly not as hard as they did to pursue the email investigation. they left voice mails with an i.t. staffer. jake, we ve been reporting on this since the summer and our reporting scholes the fbi one official told me they called the dnc 11 times they reached out to the dnc, they reached out to the dnc s general counsel s office, they went so far as to invite the dnc to an exercise to a briefing where they could get an idea of how these things are done. the dnc declined. so the fbi did not do everything perfectly here but there was a little bit morrow bust response than podesta makes it out to be. some spinning coming from the dnc why this wasn t their fault. owe des ta suggested the fbi should have investigated the hacks by the russians with the same intensity and manpower that it used to investigate hillary clinton s private email server. is that a fair charge? are the cases too different to compare? they re very different. one case we re talking about the clinton and her staff being the targets of an investigation, of a criminal investigation, and then the other the dnc, they were victims of a crime. you could only go so far to encourage a victim to cooperate. if they decline there s not much more they can do. they didn t call the security company that she should have done and look at it from the point of view of the dnc, they don t necessarily want the fbi in their business. we can understand perhaps why this went this way. interesting, thank you so much. attorney general loretta lynch oversees the entire justice department and this includes of course the fbi. earlier today i sat down with her exclusively and i asked her to respond to what poe des spod said in his op-ed in his case against the fbi. he said he s surprised to read in the new york times when the fbi discovered the russian attack in september of 2015 it failed to even send a single agent to warn senior dnc officials. instead messages were left with the dnc i.t. help desk. is that an accurate description of the outreach to the fbi did to the dnc and if so, is that sufficient? so as we ve talked about earlier this year, the investigation into the hacks of the dnc and the d triple c is an ongoing investigation, an active investigation so i m not able to comment on the specifics of how people were contacted but i can say that the fbi has worked closely with those organizations, both to discuss what we ve learned about the hacks to gather information about them so that we can continue this investigation. whether or not you can get into specifics, is it true that there was this level of calling the dnc that doesn t sound particularly competent or doesn t sound like it had the urgency that one would think? is that basic description that podesta makes, is it accurate? i can tell you this investigation was taken seriously from the beginning. this is an incredibly serious issue. i can t comment on mr. podesta s sources or where he gets his information or why he has that view. what i can say is that he s not involved in the ongoing investigation so he wouldn t be privy to everything that would have been done or said to that. but as i said, he s entitled to his opinion, but what i m what he s not entitled to is facts. i wonder if his facts are accurate. he finds it downright infewer yaiting nearly the exact same time no one could bother to drive ten minutes from the agency. he is suggesting without question that hillary clintonese email server got more attention from the justice department and the fbi than this hack investigation by russia, which i think it s fair to say seems fairly serious. well that s an ongoing investigation so i would say it s been taken very seriously. did the clinton email investigation get more attention than the hacks? you can t characterize it and i don t think that it is going to be helpful to try and draw equivalencies to any investigation with others to say and therefore it means that one was more or less important. because as i said, one is resolved right now. one is finished and one is very active and very ongoing, so there you see a great deal of activity still continuing. i know you can t comment on the active investigation but let me just put it this way. john podesta is out there trashing the fbi. and he s saying that the investigation into the hacks of the dnc was substandard. that s clearly what he s saying. do you agree with that characterization? i don t. i don t. first of all, the investigation isn t even over, so i think it s impossible to characterize it in any one way or the other. again, i know where mr. podesta is on taking information. said the new york times, a big long new york times story which i m sure you read. i know also because of his involvement with the campaign he ll have a certain interest with this and a certain view of that, and so i again i allow him his opinion. everyone has a great deal of respect for him so i allow him that opinion but i disagree with that if that is the characterization he s trying to make. i think you ve got to look at every investigation separately. you ve got to look at every case separately, and you ve got to allow for the fact that the way in which someone may be contacted isn t indicative of the full relationship that they developed or the response that they may have gotten initially from that organization as well. and you can see my entire interview with outgoing attorney general loretta lynch this sunday. i speak exclusively with former republican presidential nominee senator john mccain. see both on state of the union at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, an american hero displaying bravery. you may have never heard his name but you will hear his story next. 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we will hear from the girl and her mom this morning at 7:20 eastern. eric holder is making new announcements. is he adding fuel to the fire? log on for his debate. fox & friends starts now. bye. good morning. it is tuesday, december 2. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. it was a meeting of the protesting minds. president obama holding discussions on the ferguson fallout at the white house all while launching a plan to retrain cops on the taxpayers dime. that s you. is this really the answer? we report, you decide. why is al sharpton there? meanwhile the president threatens to shut down the federal government if republicans the bad guys do not fund his amnesty action. but how much will that cost us? we re crunching the numbers straight ahead. moses an inspirational icon in nearly every major faith but hollywood actor christian bale wonders if he was more like a terrorist. and if we should send in the drones. mornings are better with friends. hi everybody. i m huey lewis. stand by for the news. it s funny. he always laughs in the same spot there. it s amazing. yesterday i had no idea it s only four blocks from our house here at 48th and 6th. but u2 without bono was down the block. how come no one said anything? you didn t try to get into the show? it was a wide open show. bruce springsteen played the role of bono. number-one fan. i heard about it earlier. you knew? in addition to that gee began particular meeting of the minds in addition to that gigantic meeting of the minds musically, at the white house the president of the united states said i m going to do something about ferguson. so he did yesterday. he had a meeting. he called in clear why he called in clergy and cops and talked about what happened in the wake. the president did not offer an opinion, however, on the grand jury decision, which many in his party do not like, but instead he came up with a plan to keep it from happening again, he hopes. it is a four-point plan we can outline here for you. 50,000 police body cameras will be instituted here. it s going to be reviewed and implemented. the white house report a police militarization executive order on military-style equipment acquisition. we have military equipment. the military says why don t we give it to some of the police forces in some of the bigger cities in case they need t. for example, there is a nonstop terror attack and terror alert in our country. you might like some of this military equipment. should some of these dirty bombs go off or should there be widespread root rioting. the president said we ve got to address the problem. i would love to see someone say something positive about law enforcement. law enforcement is being thrown in the street as if everybody is bad and they all need to be massively retrained. they get more training for their job than 99% of americans get for our jobs. is any of the money being invested really by the taxpayers, is any of that going to be pointed to abiding by the law and maybe improving relations from both ends. it seems a little one-sided at one point when you look at that outline. president obama says he s deeply invested in this problem. a solvable problem but is one that unfortunately spikes after one event, and then fades into the background until something else happens. what i try to describe to people is why this time will be different. and part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested in making sure that this time is different. that s great that he is deeply invested in it. i think we all are. the new york post this morning on their op-ed page has this editorial. it says in part, if the president wants a solution that will save lives, tell people not to resist arrest or assault. they want 50,000 body cameras. that s a good idea. i think it is a great idea. i don t see much push-back on law enforcement either. to spend $260 million on retraining. how many police forces out there are so bad they need to be retrained? that is an interesting point. that does infer that the training they have had is not enough? that says the cops out there don t know what they re doing. of course if you listen to al sharpton over on msnbc, he pretty much sounds like that all the time. there he is extraordinarily in the eisenhower office building sitting opposite the president of the united states. it is extraordinary that this guy who does host a show offense at msnbc was invited. but the lieutenant governor of the great state of missouri, peter kinder said this regarding reverend al. i cannot imagine any previous american president of either party welcoming an inciter of mobs like reverend sharpton into the white house, into his inner councils for sober advice. you re not going to get it from him. that may true especially people in new york. the one thing is he does pack the place. he goes into a congregation on sunday. the church is mobbed and he is considered by many a leader in the african-american community. but is he considered a peacemaker? he s a race baiter. you look at his history. you look atty what look at tijuana brawlly. you look at the fact that he owes millions on his taxes. how do you get away with that? i get a letter every week to pay $72. how do you get away with saying the fight is not over when you re in the white house, on the back of the president saying we should have peace on this. this doesn t seem to make sense. you either want someone who is going to help you maintain the peace or you don t. but the person in the oval office was al sharpton. a little concern by the lieutenant governor. al sharpton said this. we live in a country where we must support law enforcement but law enforcement must support justice. reverend al the grand jury did not indict officer wilson. if you re going to support justice you ve got to support that. one of the great sports personalities out there, he speaks his mind a lot of times controversially. you tell me if you think this is controversial or right on the mark. i m talking about charles barkley yesterday. we have to be really careful with the cops man. if it wasn t for the cops we d be living in the wild, wild west in our neighborhoods. i think we can t pick out certain incidents that don t go our way and act like the cops are all bad. you know how bad some of these neighborhoods would be if it wasn t for the cops? there s no excuse for those people to be out there burning down people s business, burning up police cars. and stopping traffic and blocking bridges when you ve got to get to work. listen. governor christie, whether he knew everything or nothing about what s happened on the george washington bridge he was vilified for his administration. people were fired for blocking one bridge on one day. every city in this country that is a major city in this country has been somehow diverted because of so-called peaceful and not so peaceful protests. don t stop us from getting to work or getting home and say i have a cause. you can hear from charles barkley which, where s the action for citizens to maybe perhaps get in line with what the police officers are trying to do in terms of keeping things civil? where s the training and budget for that? is it in there? we re all looking for it. is it a race thing or is it a crime thing? imagine if the police protested and didn t show up? what charles barkley is saying it would be utter chaos. if you re upset the rams came out and showed how they are supporting michael brown in ferguson? are you supportive of charles barkley speaking out like he did yesterday on the radio? do you want your sports stars to speak out about the news? weigh in, we ll be hopping on-line. we can t wait to read those. the cost of amnesty. president obama saying he s willing to shut down the government if republicans won t pass funding for his immigration policy. doug luzader is live in washington in the bureau with a breakdown on how much that is going to cost us. good morning. we re talking about the cost of legalizing these folks. we know illegal immigration brings with it huge costs of its own from enforcement to health care to actual tax evasion. that s the point the white house likes to jump on, as well as immigration activists saying if you legalize these folks all of a sudden they will be working above the table and that will help with u.s. tax receipts. we see that, a total of about $350 billion of economic activity would basically be taken out of the shadows and be essentially legalized. in terms of wage increases, we re anticipating about $12 billion a year. so will it be a net gain for the economy? the folks at the migration policy institute crunched some of the stats as far as who these individuals are. half have less than had a high school diploma. half do not speak english well or at all. 35% are unemployed or not part of the labor force. the illegal population overall has on average about a tenth grade education and earnings wise are probably going to be well below average. that s why most likely just as anybody with an average tenth grade education will probably not be a high earner and will end up paying less taxes than they receive in government services and benefits. one of the issues has to do with what s called the earned-income tax credit. that s for relatively low-income individuals. many of these illegal immigrants would qualify for the earned-income tax credit which means when they file their taxes at the end of the year, instead of sending money to the government, they get money back which is obviously a net drain on the treasury. steve, brian, and elisabeth back to you guys. in many cases it can be thousands of dollars per family. ainsley earhardt with her huge salary is with us today. you have a lot to bring us. let me start with this headline. the suspected serial killer wanted for murdering four people in west virginia is dead. police found 39-year-old jody hunt in his truck in the woods. they say he turned the gun on himself after an hours-long manhunt that supporters want students in north dakota to pass a citizenship test before they graduate high school. back to you guys. as long as we don t have to take a test. i think you d do okay, steve. i hope we all would. coming up on this tuesday morning, attorney general eric holder making bold guarantees on the heels of ferguson, missouri. this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. but what did the death of michael brown have to do with racial profiling? we re going to talk about that. no dolls or trucks for christmas? the new idea called no gender december attacking the toys right under your tree. how dare you. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn t get any better than this. advil. in the coming days i will announce updated justice department guidance regarding profiling by federal law enforcement. this, this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. that was attorney general eric holder yesterday in atlanta discussing racial profiling in the wake of the fallout in ferguson, missouri. this as the president announces a taxpayer-funded plan to retrain police officers across the country, and reverend al sharpton urges a continued fight for justice. is this really making matters better or maybe worse? joining us is milwaukee s county sherrif david clarke. good morning to you, sherrif. good morning, sir. how are you doing? doing fine. thanks very much. why the sudden push by the white house to do something about ferguson? what is the white house doing here? it s all theatrics. the white house understands the optics of this situation and so they create this flurry of activity and people mistake activity for accomplishment. i will resist any attempt by eric holder and the president of the united states, with all due respect, to try to run my office here at the local level. policing is a local issue. we do not need federal involvement. all they re trying to do is create this situation where the neighborhoods at the local level that need policing the most will get it the least because it will cause people to back off when they really should be aggressive in terms of taking care of business. i think it s a shame that the attorney general paints this broad brush of law enforcement officers all across the united states of america. the cops at the street level and i love street cops they don t have a voice e right now. i think it s time to push back. i think every chief and sherrif in the united states of america and all these organizations like the national sherrifs, major county sherrifs, major county chiefs should begin to push back at any attempt of the federal government to run local law enforcement agency. absolutely. chief, let me ask you this. so many are trying to make this about race. is this a race thing or a law enforcement, a crime thing? i don t know that it s either of those two. i don t look at it as an either-or proposition. the president held some summit at the white house yesterday and invited, he said law enforcement and other people. i wish he would have invited me because i would have looked at him and i would have pushed aside the thee i can t theatrics and say mr. president our people in milwaukee can t find meaningful work. you spent $1 trillion on a package you said would create jobs. where are the jobs? why do our kids in these urban centers have to attend failing public schools where they are shackled to a life of crime and violence? these kids will not reach their potential. we need better schools for our kids. those are the issues. the creation of the welfare state has not helped this thing. it s created a growing underclass and we saw the behaviors of the underclass on display last week. i would say why don t you issue an executive order and have it audit programs that have made it worse because they keep people addicted to handouts. that is what is wrong in these ghettos. it is not the police spoivment you got you got it right. sherrif, always a pleasure. thank you for your straight talk. more in a minute. memorabilia including scripts, props and war droap. wardrobe. ask people who moses is and they will probably say he parted the red sea. but ask actor christian bale who plays him in the movie exodus, he has a different answer when asked that. absolutely seen as a freedom fighter. hebrews but terrorist in terms of the egyptian empire. what would happen to moses if he arrived today? drones would be sent out after him. here to weigh in is fox news religion contributor father jonathan morris. interesting take. moses a terrorist? i think he said in relationship to the egyptian empire and the egyptians were holding the hebrews as slays. slaves. in today s terms? then the drone thing, it makes it sound like the big bad guys are the ones who use drones. of course that would be the u.s. and the west against terrorism. i don t like the comparison. put it that way. do you believe that is fair to what moses did? no. he certainly wasn t thinking about drones. he was a freedom fighter, no doubt. but a freedom fighter called by god to go up against an empire that was keeping the hebrew people enslaved. i guess when you hear the word terrorist now. because you re saying drones. you re looking in the past, not looking at now. it doesn t seem to people he was alluding to how they would have seen him then. he was describing modern terms. he also referred to moses as a schizophrenic. when you go back to the director, he talked about religion being the greatest source of evil. this is a few years ago. but religion being the greatest source of evil now. i don t think they re going after religion here and i think there is a lot that could be gotten out of this movie. i love the fact we re going back and doing epic biblical films. think of noah was there some good in that? yes. could it have been great? yes. was it? no. what was missing? the spirit of faith. i think there s three elements of a great religious film. one is great art. great art, great acting and then, third, a perspective of faith. the bible s not just a history book. it s not a history book. there s history in it, but it is a book of faith. when you get those three elements you re going to have an epic film. let me ask you about the film you re consulting on, a.d. does that contain those three elements? it absolutely does. otherwise i wouldn t be involved in it. the fact that they brought me in to be a part of it means they re trying to get it right from that perspective. i think a lot of organizations and directors could learn from that and say we re going to make this right. we re going to make epic films that have religious elements. give me a couple of words to describe moses, in your opinion? first of all, he was a humble man who listened to god and u the big things god was calling him to. he had a speech problem and he had to speak to the farrow. what am i supposed to tell him? i ll tell you when you get there. what kind of faith is that? dr. jonathan morris, always good to have you. thank you. this coming up, sorry? not sorry? the st. louis police say the rams apologized during this protest but the team is telling a dinner story. what is going on there? we re going to look into it. this boy scout is more than prepared. he went above and beyond to earn all 135 merit badges. he joins us live to talk about that rare feat next. good morning. first we re going to wish happy birthday to green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers. he is 31 years old today. i m angela, and i quit smoking with chantix. people who know me, they say i never thought you would quit. but chantix helped me do it. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it gave me the power to overcome the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some people had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix or history of seizures. don take chantix if you ve had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. i m a non-smoker, that feels amazing. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. children and adolescents in particular may be at an increased risk of seizures, confusion or abnormal behavior. the most common side effects are mild to moderate nausea and vomiting. so don t wait. attack the flu virus at its source. ask your doctor about tamiflu. prescription for flu. the white house christmas tree arrived this weekend. it is a 19 foot tall white fir from pennsylvania and first lady michelle obama was the first person to come out and take a look. watch. this is a big one. are they sure they can get this in the door? the secret service started laughing and said this is the white house. anything can get through the door. do they just throw the tree offense the do they just throw the tree over the fence. they re thinking about bending the fence out and having gymnasts try to get over the fence. set personal records. to have people try to hop in and see if they can stop them. why not? inch by inch. got to do some dry runs. we re going to run right now over to ainsley. let me tell you what s in the headlines this morning. thank you, elisabeth. a reward for any information about missing college student shane montgomery now raised to $25,000. but this morning still no sign of him. montgomery disappeared after leaving a bar in philadelphia on thanksgiving eve. that irish pub now kicking in $10,000 for any information. bar owners say montgomery was respectful when he was asked to leave after bumping into the d.j. table adding he was not acting drunk. is it an apology or is it not? st. louis county police and st. louis rams are now at odds over whether the team officially apologized for this hands up, don t shoot gesture. st. louis county police chief claimed the rams c.o.o. kevin demoff apologized for his players but demoff denies that: the police officers association called the gesture profoundly disappointing. a new campaign wants to make sure no little boys see these toys under the christmas tree this year. g.i. joe no gender december calling for a ban on toy favorites like g.i. joe for boys and barbies for girls. the movement calls on toy companies to be more inclusive asking supporters to only buy gender neutral toys this christmas. what is gender neutral in their opinion? one of last year s bestsellers, an eazy bake oven. here s a weather report that literally goes to the dogs. hey, king, how are you? live tv. how are you buddy? it s not your turn yet. you have to wait one more segment. that could on youtube later. miami weatherman ryan phillips getting interrupted by king the bulldog. king was supposed to be the on the show later in the segment called pet of the week but clearly king could not wait to become a celebrity. those are your headlines. is that a pit bull? it looked like it. he wants to come up and we said bulldog but it looked more like a pit bull. and that didn t look like an e-z bake oven. it looked more like a radio. let s see how we do with the weather. maria molina joins us from the streets of new york city where currently outside it s 38 degrees. it s a chilly morning. hello, everyone. speaking of a chilly morning, we expect a bit of a wintry mix across portions of the northeast. look at this system moving through. we have early this morning areas of snow and a wintry mix across portions of the mid-atlantic. later today into tonight we re going to see a more widespread wintry mix and even more snow from areas of new england spreading down to virginia and portions of ohio. accumulations are going to be very light so not a huge concern but it will be an issue on the roadways. farther west in california the story is the ongoing drought, extreme drought conditions in place still but we re getting much-needed rain in places like san francisco and also los angeles. temperature-wise much colder across the northeast. look at caribou, maine action highs in the teens. 40 degrees in new york city, a cool-down compared to yesterday. we were looking at temperatures into the 50 s. in texas also on the chilly side. highs there only in the 40 s and 50 s. let s head back inside. maria, thank you very much. brian, that is an e-z bake oven. meanwhile from american business to wood working, one 14-year-old in the washington, d.c. area has taken to heart the boy scott boy scout motto of be prepared as he achieved a rare feat. he earned every merit badge there is, all 135 of them. that boy scout josh mc coy joins us now. it is an honor to have you here. congratulations. thank you. what was your final patch and what was the most difficult one to get? the last merit badge that i earned was bugling merit badge. the one that was most difficult is a close tie between serving and bugling. you wouldn t happen to have a bugle there with you this morning, would you, because it is almost sunup in washington. yeah, i do. okay. let s hear something. as if we haven t already worked this out. what are you going to play? i m going to play taps. okay. [playing taps on bugle] very nice. i think he just woke up fred fare. impressive. it took you two years to learn all the songs, 15 songs to get that badge. well done. josh, why does it mean so much to you to get all these merit badges? a lot of people say it s enough just to be an eagle scout. i would say it means a lot to me to earn every single merit badge because, first of all, i hadn t chosen a career that i wanted to do before i joined scouting. second of all it was a lot of fun for me. that s great. what is the career you chose? i ve now chosen, i want to go into engineering. congratulations. that s terrific. while that will be a great business for you when you grow up and a great vocation, let me ask you this. the fact that you went after all 135 of the merit badges and i know your brother zach has 102 doesn t this have something to do with your father and the number of badges your dad got when he was your age? yes, it does. my dad got 82 merit badges. i m just an overall competitive person, so i wanted to beat him. by the time i had gotten to 83, there were just tons more merit badges that were fun left to do. and i just wanted to keep going. what did he say to you when you got your last? he said congratulations, and the deal was that if i beat him in merit badges, he would pay for me to do my scuba diving. congratulations. always cutting a deal. we know what you ll be doing next now, josh. i m going scuba diving with some of the people in my troop. is there a scuba merit badge? yes. i earned it. of course you did. all right. you have a badge for getting up early with fox & friends here, josh. congratulations. wish your brother well as well. he s right behind you. just for the record, it s an emotional badge. what is your troop number? i m from troop 1145 out of prince of peace lutheran church in springfield, virginia. thank you. well done. he s going to be a great engineer? sure is. a police chase starts with a car and ends with a skateboard. you ve got to see how this one ends. businesses supporting obamacare now being sued by the feds for complying with obamacare. how does that work? judge napolitano is here next. he says you can t make it up. i read his lips. i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? 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we re going to ask fox news senior judicial analyst and author of a new book suicide pact judge andrew napolitano. thank you for being here. this is the mark of a government out of control when it writes laws that are so inconsistent with each other that in order to follow one law, you have to disobey the other. and the government enforces both, so you really are in a conundrum. what do you mean by that? if you re the owner of a corporation of 50 or more employees, you re required to encourage wellness among employees for chronic ailments like depression, hypertension, obesity. yes? but if you ask them if they are depressed, hypertension or obese, you violate the americans with disabilities act. if you follow obamacare by trying to find out if your employees need long-term assistance for chronic ailments the government will sue you for violating the americans with disabilities act. what kind of a government writes laws unless it didn t read the law before it became the law that are so inconsistent with each other and enforces them in such a manner that by obeying one you violate the other? this government and this obama administration. it puts the corporations in a position that s impossible. that s the interesting political part about this. a lot of corporate c.e.o. s went along with obamacare because they they wanted to go along to get along. a lot of insurance companies loved it. guess what? they re find out they hate it in large measure because of this particular conundrum. did the obama administration have to sue these corporations for asking their employees if they need some help with long-term health care? of course not. this was a discretionary act on the part of the obama administration. it s insane in the manner in which these laws are being enforced. how many times have we talked about selective enforcement on a myriad of issues? this government is excellent at it. let s talk about your brand-new book. it s called suicide pact. what s it about? it s not about suicide. it argues when the president takes a law into his own hands and the congress lets him, that is a suicide pact. suicide for our liberties. i didn t write this at the time president obama decided to change the immigration laws. obviously this book was written before that. but it s helping me to sell the book, because his presidency is an example of a president stealing power from congress, rewriting the laws, declaring war, doing it on his own and the congress letting him get away with it. relations with cuba could be next on deck as well as e.p.a. regulations, bypassing congress. hasn t this always been the case? haven t we always had an executive pushing against congress and vice versa? yes. in each presidency it s worse. the first half of this book is a history of presidential law breaking and lawmaking from george washington to bill clinton. the second half of this book looks at every executive order that we could get our hands on from george w. bush and barack obama post-9/11, all the things they did, both parties, both presidents exceeding their power under the constitution. but president obama has taken this to an entirely new level. in the book and this is the exit question, so you don t have to answer it in toto, just so we can help you sell a book, but who is the most lawless of our presidents? the present one. really? yes. to brian s argument, that may always be the case because they each rely on the behavior of their predecessors to justify legally and explain morally what they re trying to get away with. but within the pages of suicide packet the president present, barack obama, more than anybody else claimed he can kill americans without any due process. no president ever claimed that. check out the new book. it s called suicide pact. it s available everywhere. thank you. coming up straight ahead, is disney letting go of god? the disney website is under fire this morning for blocking a little girl s post saying she s thankful for god. i don t know if we can let that go. and it can happen any time you re out alone. an attack out of nowhere. we have one tough cop who just thwarted his own mugging with the skills mugging with the skills that could save your will that be all, sir? and often even more. it s reliable. just like kung pao fish. thank you, ping. reliably fast internet starts at $89.95 a month. comcast business. built for business. show them who is boss. here to show us how to protect yourself, former nypd detective and fox news contributor. welcome. i cannot believe a block away after you said good-bye to sean and geraldo, you ended up in trouble. it wasn t really trouble. i waited for sean to get in his car. then i start walking down the block, right here, 47th street. there was a big demonstration that night, if you remember down by times square. they were demonstrating on the shooting of st. louis, ferguson. so as i m walking down, my car was on 48th street. i had to go to 6th avenue, come around. i m walking. all of a sudden i saw these young guys milling around. i didn t think nothing of it. of course, they had hoodies on. so i still didn t think i limp because i broke my leg in my ankle. i limp a little late at night. i have a suit on. next thing is i walk in there, the one guy comes around front of me, he was tall, about 6 2. he came in my face and goes, where are you going? at that time i felt i knew what was coming down. remember, i was a decoy. i got mugged 500 times. on purpose. yeah, i had been stabbed, shot at. i felt it coming down. my initial reaction was how did i let them get so close to me and he was going to punch me. i looked in his eye and next thing was a shot in my face. moldly i put my hat under my jacket, i carry a gun legally. and i said to him, if you don t get out of my face, i m going to pop a cap. i used some vulgar language. but it was a street language where it s understood exactly what i meant. they knew i was armed. and they didn t want to do anything with it. how do we you re a tough guy, been through this before. but for many us, we have not had that happen before. you have basic hints that we could have if we re not armed. first, trust your instinct. right. if you re walk down the street, you feel like something is not right, cross the street. if you see someone standing there, be aware of your surroundings. don t be texting. that s the most important thing for people to be aware of their surroundings. also if you are confronted by someone, look right in their eye. let them know, i m not going down easy. so if you re going to rob me, you re going to have a problem. but most important thing is be aware of your surroundings. with christmas coming up with all the ferguson cash, all that, don t worry about that. worry about your surroundings. and don t walk into something if you uncomfortable, you re 100% right, it s not right. this is men and women. oh, yeah. if you have kids with you? yeah. this woman i saw on the news, she had a baby and they knocked it down and knocked her cell forelast night. the big thing is around christmas is the fact that be aware of your surroundings. when you shop and be aware of your pocketbook, your wallet sitting this, your cell phone. don t be not aware and then you won t become a victim. you got to drop geraldo and sean. they re nothing but trouble. let me tell you something, honestly, i m just glad it worked out the way it did. so are we. thank god you re okay to tell bus this story. when we come back, the latest on the ferguson protests.fer, don t go away. let it go let it go can t hold it back anymore a whole new world of censorship from the family friendly company. we re going to tell you about that as we re freezing here in new york city. freezing, frozen, get it? it s tuesday, you re watching fox & friends. this is sherry shepherd and you re watching fox & friends with my best pal, elisabeth hasselbeck. and those two other guys. that hurts our feelings. i thought she was nice. she doesn t mean it. you sure? she loves you guys. joining us to apologize, sherry shepherd, go ahead. nothing? i know she s actually watching. she watches in the morning. all right. let s talk about the news of the day. yesterday the president of the united states, so many people were saying, mr. president, you got to do something about ferguson. well, he did. he had a meeting there at the executive office building, the eisenhower building. he brought together clergy, as you can see there, police officer next to him, politician talking about the simmering tensions. what can the president do? well, you know what? he s got a four-point plan. it s $263 million in actual program push here for 50,000 police body cameras, a task force on police practices, white house report on police militarization executive order on military style equipment acquisitions. those are four prongs of the plan, which is costly for the taxpayer. 263 million. i feel like law enforcement had a very bad day yesterday because people were talking about all the changes that need to be done to their jobs to the way they go about it, the way they re even trained. the attorney general, while the president is having this meeting on how to make law enforcement better or modernized, he had the attorney general in atlanta pretty much convicting the cops of ferguson, saying that of course it was racial profiling that got this whole thing started on the wrong foot. listen to him. in the coming days, i will announce updated justice department guidance regarding profiling by federal law enforcement. this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. this is about racial profiling? keep in mind, that was never decide that had the case with officer wilson involved racial proceed filing, not once. it absolutely was not. just about an hour ago issues we had on this program milwaukee s sheriff, david clark. we asked him why the white house was doing this particular event and other things across the country and he was very clear. he said simply it is theatrics. they re just doing this right now to make it seem like they re doing something when, in fact, he sees what s going on in this country as an assault on police officers and sheriff clark is very clear, every police officer in the country should stand up now and be heard. here he is. policing is a local issue. we do not need federal involvement. all they re trying to do is create this situation where the neighborhoods at the local level that need policing the most will get it the least because it will cause people to back off when they really should be aggressive. it s a shame that the attorney general paints this broad brush of law enforcement officers all across the united states of america. the cops at the street level, and i love street cops, they don t have a voice right now. and i think it s time to push back. the black caucus weighed in yesterday, as well as marshal faulk, said everything has to change the think how bad everything is. on a if i m a street cop, making very little money, i know my life is on the line every day in the smallest and biggest city, i m saying, do i really need this job? if i m not going to get support from the highest level or from my police officers or from my sheriff who feels pressure from above, i don t know if it s worth the risk. think about it, with sheriff clark, he said it s theatric, that s why they re doing it now. i asked if it was a race thing or is it a crime thing, because michael brown roughed up the cop and assault and other things as well. he said it s not that simple. he said, you got to look at the bigger problem. the problems are in the black community, unemployment. you got to look at education. you got to look at opportunity as well. those are the things the president should be worried about. the trap of government handouts is something he noted. school system, which has them handcuffed to poverty. interesting to note that entire interview was excellent. it s beençó two weeks since n election, let s talk about the next one. 2016. senator rob portman says don t ask me to be president. and you have rand paul saying i m going to be a senator and probably running for president. the bigger news happened yesterday where jeb bush spoke. that s right. this is what he said about what it would take to have a republican leader step up. i m thinking about running for president and i ll make up my mind in short order. not that far out into the future. i don t know the exact timeline. it s the same decision making process that i ve always had. i don t know if i d be a good candidate or bad one. i know kind of know how republican can win, whether it s me or somebody else and it has to be much more uplifting, much more positive, much more willing to be practical. he s essentially laid out his blueprint, if he were to decide in short order. among his priorities, overhauling education, immigration, and the tax code. he also had some tough love for the incoming republican congress. he said stop trying to make a point. last year remember famously they are blamed for shutting down the government. he said, forge compromises. pass legislation and stop trying to repeal the affordable care act. instead come up with some alternatives when it comes to health care. that s right. let us know what you think about jeb 2016. we ll read it here. facebook, twitter. you can t argue with his resume for sure. ainsley, you have the latest news. i saw you working there. i do. let me tell you what you missed if you were sleeping. a suspected serial killer wanted for murdering four people in west virginia is dead. police found 39-year-old jody hunt in his truck in the woods. they said he turned the gun on himself after an hour s long manhunt that forced the lockdown of several schools in that area. friends identifying one of his victims as this lady. this is an ex-girlfriend of his who filed a domestic violence case against the suspect just last month. before his deadly rampage, he wrote this chilling facebook post. you will not hurt me anymore. you will not destroy my stolen heart as you tried so hard to do. a fox news alert now. the wife of the son of the isis leader being questioned in lebanon. two senior officials saying they captured them more than a week ago using fake i.d. cards. officials saying the woman believed to be one of the wives of isis leader al bagdadi. he was believed to be critically injured during an air attack back on november 8. but just days after, a new audio tape of him surfaced, calling for an increase in lone wolf attacks. there could be an immigration showdown in washington today as homeland security secretary jay johnson testifies before congress about the impact of amnesty on border security. president obama s new policies let 5 million illegal immigrants stay in our country. johnson argues removing illegals is not a priority. he calls the president s action common sense, by intense criticism from a band of republicans. even though injuries from a bike accident kept bono from performing on world aids day, he had some pretty good understudy ies. bruce springstein himself turning out for the free concert in new york city, performing with youtube. chris martin also filling in. he springstein and martin saved the event from being canceled after his injury. those are your headlines. bruce springstein for bono does not do it for me. he s still good. it was nice to stand in. best concert, u2, if you have a chance to go. great call. thanks for all that. ten minutes after the top of the hour. we told you the white house wants more spending to retrain police in the wake of the ferguson tragedy. is that really the answer? philadelphia mayor michael nutter who was in the room with the president yesterday joins us next. and government employees getting paid hundreds of thousands of your taxpayer dollars not to work. how does that make you feel? let me throw something across the room. hearing young people feeling marginalized and distrustful even after they ve done everything right. that s not who we are. and i don t think that s who the overwhelming majority of americans want us to be. president obama meeting with civil rights leaders at the white house following last week s fallout in ferguson. the president asking for $263 million to retrain police officers and fix what he calls a mistrust between law enforcement and the public. is more money, though, really the answer? joining us now, philadelphia mayor michael nutter, who attend yesterday s meeting with the president. mr. mayor, we thank you for joining us here. good morning. we continue to hear that the community feels marginalized, that there is a mistrust when it comes to the police. but what do you have to say as the mayor, to your law enforcement officials who feel marginalized and attacked by the efforts in the past week to really retrain their thinking and what is deemed as an attack on the black population? well, first and foremost, i have an incredible level of respect and appreciation and show support for the philadelphia police officers here in our city. these men and women risk their lives each and every day to make sure the rest us are safe. crime has been going down consistently in philadelphia during the seven years almost that i ve been in office. they have a tough and dangerous job. at the same time, we all work for the citizens here and the taxpayers. so treating people with dignity and respect has to be a part of their job and awful us as public servants. so at times there can be a disconnect. in communities, in any city, including our city, between how residents feel about the service that they get, how they are treated in their own community, and if that gap in trust grows, then you have a dangerous situation. citizens need the police. they re going to quality police. but at the same time mr. mayor, you used the term disconnect. is it a misperception that you think law enforcement has a different set of rules for the african-american community or minority community as opposed to the white community or is it the reality, in your mind? i think all of us come to our station in life with things that we ve grown up with, things we have in our mind, things that we see, things that we ve experienced, things we see, no disrespect to any of you, in the broader sense of media and movies and all kind of things, are going through our heads at any particular moment. so if you feel i mean, as i said yesterday across the table from president obama, why is it that black men in particular feel afraid when they are driving their car, maybe not doing anything issues but hear sirens go off behind them? there is a constant struggle of what is going to happen next. so whether it s real or it s a perception, it s the reality for that person and awful us have to deal with that. people don t want to feel that way. they want to call 911, know they re going to get good service and they want to see an officer walking down the street, or a car next to them and not have their heart start to racing because they don t know what s going to happen next. we have to deal with that as americans and come to grips with it. acknowledge that it s a problem and then take action. problem of feeling and perception what i m hearing, mr. mayor, right? 2012, 326 white i think for some in their own communities, it is the reality. they know someone who has possibly been abused. they know someone who may have been shot. sure. and so it s not just a feeling and a perception. for some people, whether in philly or halfway across the country, it is their own reality. mr. mayor, the president laid out the four-point plan, spend all that money on retraining. one of the new york papers wrote if the president wants a solution that will save lives, tell people not to resist arrest or assault police. well, i didn t see that particular piece. that s nicely written. but doesn t that make a great point? is there something to that? it s one point. but it s also about how officers interact with citizens. everyone has a responsibility here. every police officer is not how about having citizens react with the police officers. i mean, vice-versa. so everyone has a role to play here. i was taught i had the conversation, we call it mr. mayor, we have very little time. my father, a long time ago, about how to interact with police officers. so there is a mutual responsibility. great. you see, i agree with you, mr. mayor. i want to get a question in. it seems like the four-point plan is all about the cops changing. what about the community changing? what is the president s plan for the community? is it there? well, i think that the president did talk about not only 21st century policing and i m proud commissioner ramsey is the co-chair of that effort, but also the listening sessions of that attorney general holder just started literally yesterday in atlanta. some of those conversations will take place about what is the community s responsibility? how do we better interact with police officers? what is the right way to engage? so i think the president has been balanced in this effort. all of it may not have been completely laid out in the four points. but i think those four points are the right points. having community listening sessions, training police officers, engaging from the justice department in local communities, and also reevaluating how we give out the kind of equipment that we get from the military, which i support that program. but it needs accountability. i think all those elements will be there. the work of my brother s keeper, which we re strong supporters of here in philadelphia, so there is a community component to this and a responsibility to better understand what is policing about? why do officer december officers do what they do? but a lot of them do an unbelievable job and feel disrespected today about what s been happening over the last two weeks because they do an incredible job. thank you for joining us. we don t want them to feel that way. all right. thank you. 20 after the top of the hour. is disney letting go of god? its web site blocked a little girl s post, saying she s thankful for god. that girl and her mom are here next to tell their story. they must be bored over there. let it go, let it go can t hold me back anymore let it go well it looks like disney s frozen out god. when one little girl tried to post what she was thankful for on disneychannel.com, she was blocked because her reference to the almighty. apparently disney considers god s name a profanity. joining me now, lilly here with her mom. thank you both for being here. good morning. i know it s early. good morning. good morning. julie, i m going to start with you. i know lily by the way, happy birthday. i know it was this past weekend. we re excited for you. when lily went online to post what she was thankful for, what did she type in exactly? she typed in that she was thankful for god and her family and church and her friends. when she did, when she hit submit, it came up in red letters and the message that it said was please be nice. so she came and got me to let me know that something wasn t right and we started looking at it together and kind of playing with it and change words around a little bit to see what it was that it didn t like. and we found out that when we removed the word god from the post, the web site would allow it. so until you removed god, the word god, the web site would continue to tell you to be nice? that s correct. lily, how did that make you feel, when you just said what you were thankful for, and that was really nice note you wrote. how did it make you feel? it kind of made me feel a little bit confused about why it wasn t letting me send my message. sure. and that s what you were thankful for. i think that s a sweet message. we re excited you re sharing it here with us on fox & friends. julie, did you contact disney? what happened? here is your girl, she just turned ten, writing the sweetest thing on line. did you reach out to disney? i have not heard any response from disney. i reached out to todd sternson fox news and he s the one that did the write-up and shared her story for us so that we could get some sort of answer cause i just don t want children to feel like there is something wrong or something that they should be ashamed of in sharing their faith with their peers. lily, did you feel bad that they made you feel kind of bad about posting the word god? they made me feel a little bit bad because i couldn t write it. god is the reason that we have all this stuff that we have. you got a good heart. we did get a statement from disney. so i m gog read it here. maybe it will make you feel little better. it says, quote, because so many people attempt to abuse the system and use the word god in conjunction with profanity, in abundance of caution, our system is forced to catch and prevent any use of the word on our web site. what s your response to that, julie? you know, in a way it s understandable that what they re trying to prevent. but a big red message that tells a child that it s not nice to be thankful for god might not be the best way to handle that. lily, before we go, we will not censor you and we already know that you re a nice girl. so why don t you go ahead and tell america right now exactly what you re thankful for the way you wanted to the first time. go ahead. i m thankful for god and my family and all my friends cause he is the reason that i have all this stuff. you re an exceptional young girl. julie, you re a great mom of the we thank you for sharing your story here and for voicing your thanks to america loud and proud, lily. great work. thank you. thank you. you got it. she s got a good heart. this coming up, a reporter gets a little too close to his story. we re going to start with the hardest question of all. [ bleep ] my god. yikes. he was covering a shooting and almost became a victim of one? how that all happened next. talking hollywood politics and the president, up next. brian is joining him on the way to the curvy couch. good morning. the first ever interactive white house holiday card. see that? it s really cute. the way it works is you open the card, you enter your name and your social security number, and then you ll sign up for obamacare. happy holiday, suckers. amazing indeed. joining us on the curvy couch is steve gutenberg. he s got a new book out. good morning to you. another book. what s going on? i like to write. a little scribbling. what did you think of jimmy fallon taking a shot at the president? i know you have been a vocal supporter of the president in the past. well, we have a great country and the liberty that we have to be able to do that is fantastic. there are so many countries that you can t do that. it s great. there was emphatic support largely by hollywood early on. it seems it tapered a bit. what s your opinion about that? maybe shifting to hillary for 2016? i don t really see that. i don t think it s shifted at all. i think that everybody supports our president. it s the toughest job in the world, obviously. and you got to give the guy a lot of credit. he s got a lot to go up against. sure. but he s got critics when he does stuff that people don t appreciate. well, of course. we re always going to have critics. they re everywhere and that s what society is built on. do you something and everybody has an opinion about it. but i think we all love our country. not getting into it because i m just an actor. my opinion is just a single guy. you re an american. but i do believe that we re all fighting for the same thing. we have real troubles. we do. if you look at all the situations going on, we ve got a lot to go up against. it s important to have bipartisan, but at the same time, we ve got to work together. i think the biggest problem is personal ambition in government is taking over what we really have to fight for. interesting. just to make ourselves a great country. instead of the word service. it should almost be a sacrifice. i m putting my career on hold to serve. that s what the original intent was. it s not to get out and then make money. and i think that we ve sort of forgotten about that. but also just too much fighting. it s become uncivil. yeah. we got to put it together. i find there would be less fighting with me if people would agree with me more. i find for me to disagree. i find people would be happier if they went back to the days of disco. what are the odds, you got a book called the kids from disco. yeah. wait a minute. i m a kid from disco. i ve always wanted to write a book about uncles. people write books about children. that s the man from uncle. that s right. he wasn t an uncle. and i have two nieces and two nephews that i love very, very much and i m a great uncle. i m a very good uncle. and came up with this story about an uncle who becomes a super hero and employs his two niece and nephews to fight melvis pelvis. fantastic. because not many people fight the pelvis n no. until now. what are the keys to being a great uncle? nobody ever writes about that. the key to being a great uncle is to show the kids that you love their mother or their father, your brother or sister. i think that s the most important part of being an uncle is that they see i have two sisters how much i love my sisters and how you treat your sisters. so they can grow up and be like that, too. at the same time, they come over to my apartment and they can do whatever they want. free rein. yeah. good message. i want to bring up one thing, steve. you said something which is so insightful. casual give and at the same time but it really cut to the heart of the matter. what did you tell him before? which part are we talking about? when you went up to him and said, have you hung out with brian yet? that s right. the last time you were here, you said you both were from massapequa. there is no reason why you shouldn t be friends. that was two years ago. what the heck happened? well i don t want to hear excuse. we were hot and heavy. we went fishing fishing and boa. was it disco inferno hot? hold on. we might go clubbing. it s an uncle date. we ll take pictures and send them to steve. sunday, we ll go to christians. in massapequa. thank you very much. congratulations on the book. go get it. great message. the kids from disco. you ever toss to ainsley? no. here she is with the news. here she is with the news. what a great segment. y all are having so much fun. here is what s happening in the headlines. a 13-year-old boy found behind that fake wall in his father s georgia house is speaking out. doing great. i thank god. i downloaded an app. i called my mom. what a sweet young man. gregory, all smiles now, explaining how he escaped his father s house. he was held prisoner there away from his biological mother for four years. the teen-ager now telling police that he was beaten by his father and his stepmother. they re both behind bars and their bail was denied. meanwhile, the son is living now with his biological mother once again. tv cameras capturing the terrifying moments a reporter covering a shooting almost becomes the victim of one. he was interviewing a woman outside a store in west virginia when gun fire rang out. we re going to start off the hardest question [ bleep ] was there a shooting? yes. the two quickly running for cover behind a car. when i heard the first shot, my whole body got stiff. it was when i got behind the car that i realized how close it was because you could hear that zip. one man was hit, but he is okay this morning. police are still looking for the suspect. grayco in hot water over its latest safety recall. federal regulators are investigating a possible delay in reporting a safety defect which led to the biggest recall of children s seats in the united states. the buckles can get stuck, making it very hard to remove your child from the seat. the government says grayco was aware of the complaints as early as 2009, but never informed federal regulators. grayco insists it has been cooperative. imagine getting shocked every time you do something bad for you. that s exactly what happens when you wear one of these, padlock wristband. if you re in a bad habit, if you re doing something like spending too much time on line, not enough time at the gym, it will give you an electric jolt. it is nown sale for $200. so people pay to feel that? who controls that? otherwise it s like the invisible fence that the dogs use. thank you, ainsley. thanks. 20 minutes to the top of the hour. this coming up next. a fake hero learns the hard way if you re going to impersonate a u.s. army ranger, make sure there aren t any real ones nearby. i ve worn that uniform and i ve had friends get killed in afghanistan in that uniform, stolen valor, right here. wow. the real hero will be here next. right? thanks. one fake hero learns the hard way if you re going to impersonate a u.s. army ranger, better make sure there is not a soldier nearby. you re in rangers? there it is. where is your combat patch at? i gave it to a little kid. why is your flag so low on your shoulder? should be up here. got me on that one. why don t you just admit you re a phony. you know it s illegal, right? let me tell you something, i m a phony? yeah. then i wouldn t be wearing this uniform. you wouldn t? no. cause you are a phony. i called you out on ten different things. it s illegal what you re doing because i ve worn that [ bleep ] uniform and hive had friends get killed in afghanistan in that uniform. stolen valor right here! soldier burke, u.s. army veteran that confronted that phony is with us right now. thanks for your service. thank you. set the scene for us. looks like you re in a mall, you spot something and what did you do? i spotted this guy in an army combat uniform. he went into a store. i went in for a closer look because i like talking to fellow service members. as i got closer, a noticed a couple things were off with his uniform. his flag was low, boot lace were untucked. the badges on his chest were offcenter. so i took a step back and i just watched and talked to a little boy and kind of tell him stories about being in the military and this and that. and as he came out of the store, that s kind of when i initially confronted him about his uniform not being properly worn. we re hearing it. you have it you had your iphone and taping him. if you had the right earnings you would have backed off, correct? correct. initially did he have what could have been correct answers. when he approached me, i noticed he had two stars above his badge which would indicate he served in three different wars, which is almost physically impossible for his age. why does it bother you so much? well, i served in afghanistan and i ve had several friends get seriously wounded and a couple were killed in action who wore that same uniform, who put all that on the line and sacrificed that. to see somebody try and claim that type of sacrifice or dedication that my friends did really irked me. what about with your family? don t you have a my grandfather served in world war ii. he was also in the army. and just that legacy of wearing that uniform, so many guys put their lives on the line and have lost their lives wearing that same uniform. somebody to pose as an actual soldier when they haven t sacrifice as much as those guys have, it s just wrong. you also get discounts and praise when you don t deserve it. that bothers you on top of that. what has been the online response since this has been posted out there? generally in the military community especially, it s been positive from my end. i d say fort most part, everybody supported what i did and they agree with it. there has been a couple negative responses, but overall, i think everybody was on board with me and thought i made the right choice. and what happened to him now? as of right now, the video on line has millions of views. the law enforcement officials are actually in the process of contacting him to investigate further if this guy should be prosecuted or not. it is a crime. it s been posted on facebook, says i worked with him. always called him out and he always stuck to his story. thankfully there is someone with more military knowledge than me that could pinpoint the lies. i could not. thank you. this made my day. yeah. it means a lot. like i said, i think there is more than just this guy walking around posing as a service member, claiming that they sacrificed as much as some of my friends have and i think when it s seen, it needs to be called out and these guys need to be prosecuted. you dropped out of penn state to go serve. now you re back, ready to graduate. what do you want to do next? hopefully law enforcement is my main goal here. at 26. what a life you ve already had. thanks so much for your service and thanks for doing what you did and everybody else serve notice, don t steal the valor. this is only for the select few. appreciate it. who is on your wrist? private first class anthony nunn, killed in may of 2011 and sergeant summers, also killed in july of 2011 in eastern afghanistan. wow. and you are making sure their memory stays alive. appreciate that. thanks so much. coming up, how do you turn that seasonal job into a permanent one? cheryl casone is here with that way to make that permanent next. but first on this day in history, 1938, new york s la guardia airport opened for business and immediately every plane was lifted. in 1965, turn, turn, turn by the birds was the number one song in america. and in 1976, castro in cuba [sound of crickets] brii,brii,brii [male narrator] we ve all heard how military veterans adjusting to the civilian world may have. certain. issues. 2. 30. 70. if only everyone had this issue. no matter what challenge they face, easter seals is here for america s veterans. the business of christmas shopping already in full swing. that means employers are looking for people to do the ringing up at the cash register. cheryl casone from our sister network, fox business, is here with the top five companies hiring today. i ve looked at the list, i heard of all of them. i love all the companies. they re look for workers. let s start are amazon. to be clear, they re all still hiring and look for people. yesterday with cyber monday, they were very strong for cyber monday. excellent. everybody is in the amazon and you can work for them. 80,000 holiday positions available at amazon. thousands of these jobs will turn into full-time jobs. amazon has been on a hiring tear. yesterday you did a segment about how they ve got a bunch of robots. but they still need actual people. they need people for sorting, for package, labeling, things like that. those fulfillment centers. they re opening more and more, including some here in this area. so that s the first one. next up, i love this company, nothing says a holiday like a honey baked ham. food. i love it! so this is the spiral honey baked ham. the founder actually invented the spiral, like the way that you cut the ham. i hope he made a lot of money. anyway, 10,000 jobs, production, preparing glaze in the hams, customer service agents. a lot of their managers were seasonal hires. they like to promote from within. it s good culture, i will say. absolutely. you just said that cyber monday was a very busy day. fed-ex is a place that s looking for people. yeah. 50,000 seasonal positions. all these companies are still hiring. don t think they re not. a majority of the seasonal workers will have the opportunity to go full time, continue working even if it is part-time after the holidays and fed-ex has really good benefits. if you can get full time with that company, the health care, the retirement, everything is really strong at fed-ex. they re pretty busy now. let s take a look at target. so they re this huge price war right now with wal-mart. they re really kind of going head to head. 70,000 jobs, 40% of last year s hires went full time at target. you get a discounts as well. they ll continue to hire. they re expanding. they re kind of fixing up the stores. and finally, sports authority, which is right next to target in my town. is it really? yeah. very cool. if you need some weekend work, a little part-time i m off here at 9 request in the morning. you ve got the time. yeah. all right. so 50% discount if you like sporting goods items. 3500 jobs that are open. store managers, merchandising, sales, things like that. several hundred of those workers will become permanent. i think it s an opportunity you should consider. absolutely. and once again, i m sure today on the business network you re going to be talking about how so far the sales are looking better than on black friday? we re going to be covering retail sales because a lot more and more americans are doing their online shopping. and that s where everything is going. everything is listed at cassiniex casoneexchange. you could literally, if you walk into a stocks be hired that day. every day is christmas at casone exchange. don t miss cheryl on the fox business channel. thank you. thank you. coming up on this tuesday, the white house wants more spending to retrain police officers in the wake of the ferguson tragedy. retraining the cops? is that the answer? laura ingraham s got an opinion. she s next. and quiz time. what do goats and harlem globetrotters have in common? the answer next. that s baaad. ñi good morning. it is tuesday, december 2. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. the white house wants hundreds of millions of dollars to retrain cops. what about how the community treats police? where are those points in the plan? laura ingraham weighing in on that straight ahead. and the president threatens to shut down the federal government if republicans do not fund his amnesty plan. but how much is that going to cost? we are crunching the numbers and they are big ones, straight ahead. and caught on camera, wild police chase starts with a stolen car, then ends with a skateboard. not before a reality tv star jumps in to save the day. every word in that tease was true. it sounds like i made it up. but mornings are better with friends. it s time for fox & friends . that isn t sweet georgia brown, is it? this is giving tuesday. this is the harlem glebe trotters with some goats, a alpaca and llama. in the past we have told you about an organization remember a couple years ago, he have time it was my birthday, my wife would buy me a cow that would be donated to people in another country. they ve got a similar program, in fact, we ve been keeping one of the cows here in the studio they ve got a program where you can actually donate an alpaca and goats and fresh water. it s a wonderful program. it s a great program. on this giving tuesday, it s great way to share i could see how a cow could help. how about an alpaca? for the wool. it gives it up willingly. the alpaca is now offended. i want to make sure we weren t having alpaca for lunch. no. he s going to alpaca punch you. all right. we mentioned this a moment ago. the cost of amnesty, president obama now saying he is willing to shut down the federal government if republicans won t pass funding for his immigration policy. doug luzader has a calculator in washington, d.c., figuring out how much all that is going to cost. reporter: good morning. i need my green gadget this morning. a lot of numbers have been thrown around of the economic impact of the president s plan. let s talk about a couple of them. $40 billion. that s what the conservative heritage foundation estimates will be the cost to taxpayers of the president s new immigration plan. on the other hand, we ve got this number, $350 billion. one immigration advocate says that s how much economic activity will now be done above board. these are very strong net positives for the economy, particularly on the fiscal side. continued to pay heavily on the tax side and are the lowest users of government services. but is that really the case? you really have to look at illegal immigrants in general, the migration policy institute came up with this analysis of illegal immigrants. 50%, they say, have less than a high school diploma. 31% live below the poverty line. 51% don t speak english well or at all. 65% either unemployed or not part of the labor force. just as anybody with an average tenth grade education, will probably not be a high earner and end up paying less in taxes than they receive in government services and benefits. and that leads us to the earned income tax credit. generally low income earners don t pay an income tax to the government at the end of the year. instead the government actually sends them a check and the administration has been clear about this, that these illegal immigrants will, in fact, qualify for the earned income tax credit. back to you guys. because they paid in. doug, we thank you very much. great report. laura ingraham joins us live to discuss all that s been happening in ferguson and post. tensions rising across the nation. now a meeting in the white house. good morning to you. good morning. $263 million in ferguson spending to retrain law enforcement. is that a great way to spend the taxpayers money? first of all, let s look at what that whole scene looked like in there. when i just looked at the image, the screen shot of that, it looks and reminded me of one of those like thursday night seminars in college where everyone kind of sits around the table and talk about the world s problems and in the end, they just come up with the same conclusion, basically that the system is rigged; that minorities can t get ahead and that we need to spend more money. and indeed, that s exactly what happened yesterday at this meeting. there is never anything that happens in the country that the president doesn t believe can be fixed with the spending of more money and getting america deeper into debt. indeed, when you see the $263 million that he s proposing, i guess we could find that money somewhere. i don t know. we never talk about where we re getting the money. we print it. just take it from the military. that s what we re good at. and guys, i was thinking about this. body cameras, i think that s an interesting idea and i think obviously it would have vindicated officer wilson early on in this process. but maybe, why not put a body cam on the president, because i know a lot of people would like to know this how much time does he actually spend during the day on the u.s. economy? i m talking about jobs, opportunity for people, expanding economic opportunity, and running the government, versus doing the community organizing around the table. that body cam would be fascinating. so i m all in favor of spending money on that body camera. you know when would run all that, all his video would probably be the golf channel because he does a lot of that. great idea. they need some fresh programming. about an hour ago we had michael nutter, the mayor of philadelphia on. he was in the meeting with the president yesterday. essentially what he was saying is that the police need to be retrained so they know how to deal with the community. what about the community and their dealings with the police? listen to this exchange we had with him. treating people with dignity and respect has to be a part of their job and awful us as public servants. there can be a disconnect. in communities in any city, including our city between how residents feel about the service that they get, how they are treated in their own community, and if that gap in trust grows, then you have a dangerous situation. i think the president has been balanced in this effort. all of it may not have been completely laid out in the four points, but i think those four points are the right points. what do you think? how about self-reliance versus self pity? how about conforming our behavior to the law instead of bitterness? how about actually the principles of truth versus the principles of rabble rousing and spreading distrust, which i think this administration has done? actually speaking basic truths. i know that s a crazy concept in america today, but if you punch a cop, if you try to get into his car, if you walk down the middle of the street and rob a store, it s not going to end well. you re either going to end up in jail or someone is going to get hurt. it would be nice if the president of the united states with all of his education and all of his wisdom and all of his experience actually spoke truths to people and had the community really represented there. there was one police official there, but there were no shop keepers at that meeting yesterday and again nobody from ferguson. he always goes political at these meetings. he never goes pragmatic. and the pragmatic thing is people need jobs. stop giving opportunities away to illegal immigrants. actually focus on getting the communities at work because guess what? when you have to wake up in the morning and you have a job or child to really take care of, you don t have time to be out on the streets burning down buildings. sure. charles barkley, to your point and adding on there, said why don t we get practical here and imagine what it would be like without law enforcement doing the job that they re doing? be a wild, wild west. take a listen. we have to be really careful with the cop, man, because if it wasn t fort cops, we d be living in the wild, wild west in our neighborhoods. i think we can t pick out certain incidents that don t go our way and act like the cops are all bad. do you know how bad some of these neighborhoods would be if it wasn t for the cops? there is no excuse for those people to be out there burning down people s businesses, burning up police cars. laura? i would argue that the who has been more damaging and paid less attention to the true needs of minority communities in the country? the obama white house or state and local police? i would say state and local police has done more to help and assist minority communities than this administration has in the last five-plus years. so if you want to be mad at someone, i d be mad at the administration that hasn t spend really any time on getting real job, good-paying job noose this country. and instead is more recrimination, none of this is going to help the average minority in this country or working people. the attorney general hasn t left yet, was yesterday in atlanta and he was speaking out and he wants to end racial profiling, which i don t know how that figures into this case, but he came out and said once and for all, he wants to end it and that s the problem with policing today. do you think that was on message or off? well, i mean, this is the way they view the world. the racial prism is how the obama administration viewed the world at t very beginning of this administration and apparently it s worked so well for them, not, they re going to keep doing it until the 2016 election. again, i think people are fed up with this. i know a lot of people watching this right now are trying to figure out ways that they can actually buy christmas presents for their children this year. the people who are shutting down those stores, who are blocking the freeways, they re not the modern day rosa parks. most of them are very selfish and most of them don t really care about michael brown. they care about anarchy, chaos, and doing the whole anti-capitalist thing. that s what they care about. the president should have spoken about the dangers of what some of these people are doing on the streets and he didn t. yeah. maybe that s the message today, don t hold your breath. laura, thank you very much. have a great radio show. starts in about 50 minutes all across the country. thank you. we turn now to ainsley earhart, a lot to bring you this morning. what s going on this morning? thank you. the wife of the leader of isis now being questioned in lebanon. two senior officials saying they captured her and her nine-year-old son more than a week ago using fake i.d. cards crossing the border from syria. officials saying the woman is believed to be one of the wives of isis leader al bagdadi. he was thought to be critically injured during an air attack on november 8. but a few days after that, a new audio tape of him surfaced, calling for an increase in lone wolf attacks. a suspected serial killer wanted for murdering four people in west virginia is dead. police found 39-year-old jody hunt in his truck in the woods. they say that he turned the gun on himself after an hour long manhunt that forced the lockdown of several schools in the area. friends identifying one of his victims as an ex-girlfriend who filed a domestic violence case against the suspect just last month. before his deadly rampage, he wrote this chilling facebook post: you will not hurt me anymore. you will not destroy my soul and heart as you tried so hard to do. a reality tv star saves the day after a wild police chase near l.a it began when a suspect driving that stolen bmw slam noose a car stopped in traffic, then jumps out with his skateboard, as you can see. he skated away for about half a block with cops on his tail. it all came to an end when operation rico star in the red pick up truck cuts him off. police then took him into custody. see exactly what happened, see the guy running with his skateboard and running from the cops. they re right on him. there is six or seven cops. and he got on the skateboard and started moving and it s just instinct. blocked the guy off and slowed him down a little bit. apparently the star lost 150 pounds in the past year, so no one even recognized him. those are your headlines. back to you. you recognized hip. we all did. thanks. this coming up, the rioters in ferguson are running wild. but one group of armed volunteers patrolling the town from roof tops is being threatened with arrest. is that fair? one of those volunteers joins us next. and this wasn t on the radar. a weatherman caught by surprise when a playful pup takes over his weather report. good boy. oath keepers. who are you guys and gals? oath keepers are individuals that come from first responder backgrounds, military, law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics. they re the individuals that put themselves in harm s way to keep others safe. so when we hear this, this is a statement i want to read to you. it s from the st. louis county police department saying that you re not obeying the laws. quote, individuals from the group did not adhere to the st. louis county ordinance regulating security officers, couriers and guard. that ordinance prohibits anyone from providing security without first obtaining a license. what is your response to that? well, the rest of that has to do with being paid to be there. that wasn t the case with any of us. we re all volunteers. sure you are. and i know that there are a number of business owners forget about what the officials say. people who own some of those businesses and buildings were thankful that you guys showed up because you showed up when a lot of people wouldn t. that s true. there was a lot of hugs and tears. they couldn t believe that perfect strangers would come and do that for them. why did you do it? that s what we do. while others run from danger, we run into it. it s part of who we are. that s how we re wired. if indeed you are stopped from doing what you are meant to do, what you re wire to do do to help others, what will be the result, john? we won t stop. why? because no one else is there to stand in the gap. no one is there to do the job. that s why we had to roll out and do what we did, because everybody else was standing by. those that were in roles that were supposed to protect the town, they did not. i read a statistic that every building that you guys protected is still standing today. so that s a salute to the fact that the oath keepers were op the roofs keeping an eye on things. thank you for joining us. thank you. you bet. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, while illegal immigrants make themselves at home in the united states, american students now have to pass a citizenship test to graduate. does that make sense to you? would you pass? and a football player suing his high school, saying it didn t protect him from concussions. could the case be the end of high school football? arthur and ablow walk not guilty to take on the legal insanity next. a kid. i m just overall a competitive person, so i wanted to beat him. by the time i had gotten to 83, there were just tons more merit badges that were fun left to do and i just wanted to keep going. he did, but he ran through all of them. he says the bugling badge was the hardest to earn. but he got it last. brian, over to you and the guys. all right. former high school football player now suing the illinois high school association, claiming it did not do enough to protect him from concussions. standards, the ihsa has implemented are still fairly below the standards that we think are now the norm in the industry given the state of knowledge that we possess. wow. suing. could this spell the end of high school football? here to react, fox news legal analyst arthur aidala and dr. keith ablow. you like this suit, arthur? i like the purpose of it. i like what they re trying to do, they re trying prevent injuries on young people. from a very practical point of view, this is a class action lawsuit. that attorney you just showed, he could get multi generational wealth for him and his family if all of these high school players start popping up from generations past saying hey, i was hit in the head, i had a concussion, now i get headaches every day. by the way, how do you prove if someone really has a headache every day? i m not sure. if they know they re going to get a check? the attorney is a attacking joe, who has his heart in the right place. this class action suit, i know him. i talked to him. i did my homework. i know him everybody knows, everybody knows that hitting your head in football and the fact that you get blurry eyed and concussions, this was a risk. so the fact is, if you knew that and you were the people putting on this game, if you re the organizers of the game, that s called negligence. it s like i have to take the lawyer to school. the protocols in 2003, didn t play past high school. were they in place like they are now in the nfl? they re not. but the way the doctor opined, that everybody knew what the dangers are of a concussion, they re going to have to prove that everybody knew that there was a risk and that the risk was this suit is not just about money. here you impugne the reputation of a great attorney. i m not impugning it. i can tell you one thing don t misquote me. the nacc case as well, in that case, he was very focused on achieveing change. there are 8 million high school athletes, football players. 140,000 will get concussions on an average basis. so eight high school students did die playing this game. so it s a risk that you have going in. if these schools have to pay out this money, you have thoroughly destroyed the sport. i don t think you have. and guess what? i don t know if it s such a terrible thing if you do medical checks after somebody has a terrible head trauma on the field and you sideline the kid for the game. what s so bad about that? here is what the lawyer is saying. everything doesn t have to be accomplished through a lawsuit. you could accomplish this same goal through a series of meetings lawslaws are made this way. it doesn t have to be all the time. how can you get that pocket square? the suit has to be a very expensive suit. i will say this. everyone s heart is in the right place. everything doesn t have to be a lawsuit. the biggest take away is there is a target on football at every level. let s make it safe. absolutely. arthur, thanks so much. you guys are a handful. unbelievable. i can t watch him and argue with him and everything else. they actually like each other, believe it or not. coming up in the next 35 minutes, ray rice free o play in the nfl and now he is speaking out. if i never play football again, i ll be honest with you, i would sacrifice more so she could have a better future. more from his newest interview out this morning. and quiz time, what do goats and globetrotters have in common? elisabeth has the answer and she also has a coat. bought 17 books. including the laughing monsters, being mortal and heart of darkness. or as the cashier put it, are you okay? chicken soup for the presidential saul? you want to get that? that is quite a book reading list. did you hear what he said about chuck todd s book about him? he said sad. a sad picture of the president on the cover. is that what he meant? not that it s sad he wrote a book? maybe not. from sad to happy a great smile is just around the corner right there with ainsley earhart ready to bring us the headlines. you re so sweet. thank you so much. here is what you missed while you were sleeping. the reward for information about missing college student shane montgomery now raised to $25,000. but this morning still no sign of him. he disappeared after leaving a bar in philly on thanksgiving eve. that irish pub now kicking in $10,000 for information as well. bar owners say he was respectful when he was asked to leave after bumping into the d.j. table, adding he wasn t acting drunk. ray rice now free to play in the nfl with video surfacing of him punching his fiance. now what he thinks it will take for an nfl team to give him a second chance. one thing i think that they will have to be willing to, you know, look deeper into who i am and realize that me and my wife have one bad night and i took full responsibility for it and one thing about my punishment and everything going along with it, anything that happens is that i have accepted it. i went fully toward it. i never complained or i never did anything like that. four teams expressed some interest and rice is now a free agent. is it an apology or not? st. louis county police and the st. louis rams are at odds over whether a team officially apologized for this hands up, don t shoot gesture. st. louis county police chief john bellmar claims the rams coo apologized for his players. but the coo denies this, saying he expressed regret the players he actions were seen as offensive burks never officially apologized. the police officers association called that gesture profoundly disappointing. and here is a weather report that literally goes to the dogs. when i have it to reopen it hey, king. how are you? live tv. how are you, buddy? it s not your turn yet. you have to wait one more segment. is this going to be on youtube? miami weatherman getting interrupted by king, that one-year-old american bulldog mix. king was scheduled to be on the show a little later as the pet of the week. but couldn t wait to become a star. those are some of your headlines. maria has weather here. have you ever had a dog interrupt your weather? no, but bring it on. bring the dogs overt we have had dogs on the set and i have done a weather forecast with a dog next to me who did not interrupt me. let s look at the radar. we have areas of rain and even a little wintery mix across portions of the mid-atlantic early today. as we head into later this afternoon and this evening, we re going to be looking at more widespread areas of snow and also wintery mix developing across parts of new england all the way down to the mid-atlantic. 2003 have a number of winter weather advisories and freezing rain advisories out there across parts of pennsylvania and ohio. so be careful on the roadways. it will get slick out there. across california, much needed rain coming in to areas like san francisco and los angeles. temperature wise, you re much colder today across areas in the northeast. texas, also chilly. highs in the 40s and 50s. and across places like minneapolis, high temperatures there, only in the 20s. now let s head over to elisabeth and brian who are about 20 pete pete feet to my right. today is giving tuesday and to celebrate the harlem globetrotters have teamed up with christian organization world vision promoting the importance of giving back this holiday season. here with us now are two members of the globetrotters, alex and herb, along with a few friends. nice to see you. i thought it was reverse. i thought you could outjump him, but i m wrong. actually he can at this point in my career. but not in this weather. you are freezing. he was still able to teach a couple of tricks to us. talk about why you have furry friends with you today. we partnered up with world vision, so why not team up with somebody like them. we want to encourage our fans to give to underprivileged communities and a way to do that is going to the world vision catalog and you can find out more about the catalog at worldvisiongifts.org. you can find life-changing gifts such as llamas, cows, alpacas. you can get two soccer balls for 16 bucks. whatever you have more of in your wallet. whatever you can give, you give a lot of joy and you also keep people smiling throughout the year with some tricks. can you teach us one before you go? oh, yeah. you want to try something? sure. here we go. all right. i want you to go around your back, underneath your leg, off the knee. okay. around my back, underneath my leg. that s pretty good. you seem less than impressed. all right. for you you want to go around the body. okay? like that, back and forth. i think duke it. i saw you working on it. i ll try. there you go. like that? that was very good. let me trio get the ball from you guys. see if you can trio do that. i need a llama to help me. you need a llama? thank you for coming down. world vision, a great cause. always providing a smile with great talent. giving back to the community. jog it in. steve, take it away. thank you, brian. coming up, how are we dealing with the new isis threat against our military? by telling them to scrub their social media? really? is there freedom of speech, the latest victim in the war on terror. peter johnson, jr. weighs in on that next. and no dolls or g.i. joes for christmas. the new idea called no gender december attack the toys under your tree already. say good-bye to g.i. joe, barbie. god is the reason that we have all this stuff that we have. i just don t want children to feel like there is something wrong or something that they should be ashamed of in sharing their faith with their peers. disney s response says it was because of censoring software that catches people who abuse the system by adding god to profanity. that was their answer. steve? the f.b.i. has issued the strongest warning to date about possible isis attacks against members of the u.s. military. in a memo from the department of homeland security, the f.b.i., service members are told to scrub their social media accounts. quote, for any information that might serve to attract the attention of isil and its supporters. is free speech now the latest victim in the war on terror? peter johnson, jr. joins us live. it may be, but it may be necessary. this is first reported on fox back in october. let s talk about the joint bulletin. what it does is strongly urges service members to scrub their social media accounts, like twitter and facebook. removing anything that might bring unwanted attention or help extremists learn their identities or their families identities or locations because officials fear copy cat attacks like the attacks that we saw in can did and frankly, what we ve seen at fort hood in the past. radical extremists acting against service members here in the united states. sure. and it was in october that an air force guy and his son were targeted by social media. they said hey, go after these guys. absolutely. the issue becomes is this the first amendment going by the boards because of isil, because of al-qaeda, because of terrorism generally? do our service members and their family have to limit what has become really the face of the first amendment in the 21st century, their participation in social media? obviously it has a point. obviously locations, sensitive locations shouldn t be given away. obviously family members and military shouldn t say i m here, i m over there and then become subject first to internet attacks and then potentially slaughtered by terrorists, which is the fear of the f.b.i. and the department of homeland security. we ve had this in the past in our culture, in our history. look at world war ii. there were posters of the government put out, loose lips sink ships. meaning if you spoke about troop movements, if you spoke about where people were, then we might lose ships in the war against the axis powers. then also invoking the stetson hat, keep it under your stetson hat. keep that information under your stetson hat. but at the same time, though we understand that this is a great, great infringement on who we are as a people, that somehow a military officer, a veteran, someone who is a blue star or gold star or a silver star member or family should somehow disguise their service or be ashamed of it for fear that they or their family will be struck by terrorism. that s the balance that we re facing in this society now. and so i hope that our honoring of service, that our public acknowledgment of service in this country doesn t go by the boards, that there are ways that people can fly the blue star flag of service and that we can honor our patriots in this country without fear of being attacked by terrorists. i think we should spend as much time ensuring that they are safe as warning them about engaging in social media. obviously they need to be smart as we all do. but we don t need to succumb in a total way to their terrorization. otherwise the terrorists win. and they can t win and they won t win. all right. well said. thank you very much. 12 minutes before the top of the hour on this tuesday. still ahead, attorney general eric holder said he s going to end racial profiling once and for all. one sheriff says racial profiling not the problem at all. his message to the attorney general and your comments pouring in next. first let s check in with hem who are has got the show in 12 minute. how you doing? good morning to you. homeland security secretary testifies in the president s move on immigration. there is a big republican meeting this morning at the same time. what is the best way forward for the new majority? we re all over both stories. and a ordained drops out of the race for 2016. so who is in today? is iran helping the u.s. bomb isis? there is evidence apparently. we ll show it to you. martha and i will see you at the top of the hour on america s newsroom . welcome back. we ve been talking this morning about how the president of the united states has been told you got to do something about ferguson and yesterday he convened a meeting at the white house of religious leaders, civic leaders, and police officers. that s right. one individual who should have possibly been there ho had something to say to the president about leadership, law enforcement and communities and how things could actually get better is sheriff david clark out of milwaukee, the county sheriff there. this is what he had to say about his message and what it would have been to the president. policing is a local issue. we do not need federal involvement. all they re trying to do is create this situation where the neighborhoods at the local level that need policing the most will get it the least because it will cause people to back off when they really should be aggressive. it s a shame that the attorney general paints this broad brush of law enforcement officers all across the united states of america. the cops at the street level, and i love street cops they don t have a voice right now. i think it s time to push back. law enforcement did not have a voice yesterday. not in washington, not in the meeting that they had and not in atlanta with the attorney general where he came back and said, hey, we have once and for all got to stop racial profiling. instead of saying good detective work or we understand what you re up against, there was none of that. there was a lot of protest. he supported the protest that he had to walk through and deal with in his speech, said, i m not even mad at you. it has been decided that this case in ferguson, the death of michael brown that led to the nonindictment of officer wilson there involved racial profiling. nothing has been decided as it relates to that. in the new york post today on the editorial page, they said that last week the president said we need to accept the decision that where he said the grand jury was was the grand jury meant to take. it was their decision. if that s the case, they say that the attorney general should probably stop trying to make this a federal case. eric holder, who is out there saying that he s going to stop racial profiling once and for all. and come up with you have the president meeting with some leaders on coming up with a four-point plan, plus that s going to be on the backs of the taxpayer, $263 million, putting cameras on police officers moving forward. but then when you hear from those real boots on the ground, sowf the sheriff, the local feds going in there in terms of police work, their voice were not heard. but yours are on facebook. one stays, the less you have the feds involved, the better it is for the states, counties and our cities in the nation. the locals know what is best for the citizens of that particular state. the mayor of philadelphia was in support of the meeting which he was invited to. on facebook, one says, i m tired of all the criticism of law enforcement. unless you have put a uniform on, put yourself in harm s way, you have no idea what it is like. joanne is on facebook and she wrote this: bravo, at last a brave soul that is willing to tell it like it is. why wasn t he invited to the white house? the sheriff also said that what the white house is doing complete theatrics. that s it. one more post, at this point, i agree, they are making it more difficult for the police to protect themselves. thus protect our citizens in the long run. thanks for sending those in. keep them coming. also something that was curious is if you re going to have a meeting at the white house, talking about the problems with ferguson so they don t go forward in the future, you would have thought they would have invited somebody from ferguson. and invited some of the protesters, but none of the people in authority of ferguson, which seemed like they left somebody off the list. one of the individuals there said that the protests should have happened even before the verdict. that people should have opinion out there they said riots. they should have been lots of riots before the verdict. strong language. yeah. we ll see what happens in the aftermath of this and what are the president s four-point plan gets implemented. we ll see. more fox & friends in just a moment.
as we see this splits. yes, let me walk you through donald trump s strategy over the next three days to do the ten state splits. we are calling that hillary clinton s blue firewall, the states of wisconsin and pennsylvania. that s one region and then you know donald trump has to be able to win the must-win florida and north carolina. if he does not win any of those states, this race is over. he has to be able to hone onto that. he wants to be able to go out to the west and see if he could pick off a state like colorado, for example, that helps him out. just to kind of show you then, you know, hillary clinton s holds. pennsylvania is critical to that. michigan is critical to that. that s a reliably blue state and she will be here later today. and campaigning later on tonight with jay z, she s adding a stop this weekend. the polls are all tied up. she s battling for every vote and not taking any vote for granted, thomas. kristen, standby, lets go to our katy tur. this rhetoric that trump is using that clinton is likely under an investigation for a long time, america deserves a president who can go to work on day one. is this red meat where the folks already supported? well, it is. it is aimed at those republicans that are out there that are uncomfortable with donald trump and trying to get them to get up and get out and go to the polling booth and cast their ballots for trump and instead of somebody like a third party candidate or somebody they made perhaps write in and as we saw, some folks say they re going to write in a third party candidate including john kasich who wrote in john mccain when he was? ohio. what they are trying to do is paint hillary clinton as somebody that s so questionable and somebody who has so many issues in office and including an investigation and they within the to say it will end up with a criminal indictment even though they do not know that s going to happen. so they can scare those republicans into coming home. mit romney enjoyed a lot more republican support than donald trump has at the moment over 93% or 94% or 95%. in order for donald trump to be competitive or any democrats for that matter, he s going to slit f solidify all the republican votes as they can. there is some indications that is working. i was talking to sources in new hampshire who tells me the polls are tightening in that state. republicans are coming home to donald trump in a way where they have not seen before this past week. they re still unsure that he will be able to pull it off in new hampshire but hopeful than they were a week ago and above anything else of what this is happening, of kellyanne conway and new hampshire and pennsylvania and others across the country including marco rubio and florida. they are going to don t do this and they hope that donald trump stays on message and we see him on the campaign trail and he acknowledges this and at oftentimes he can be his own wor words. we know that toomey you katie and kristen welker, has team trump responded about upcoming indictment for clinton? reporter: no, the trump campaign has not responded to that. they have been using that and saying that just came out and hillary clinton is going to be criminally indicted and they use this fox news reporting but they have not commented since brett bearer have backed off of it. yesterday, he said this was artful terminology. today he s apologizing that it is not just artful but inaccurate. kristen what about how is team clinton responded of a false story? reporter: no reaction to that. you remember in the wake of comey coming forward and announcing that he s looking into newly discovered e-mails, clinton campaign turning the pressure on comey, hey, if you are going to do this, release all the information. we saw that from her top surrogate. clinton is not talking about this issue anymore. she s trying to turn the page. you will hear some of her top circuit taking this on. it is friday, the e-mail from comey came out on friday, the access hollywood came out on a friday that hurt donald trump. what will happen this friday? anybody s guess. katy, and kristen and mark and jacob, everybody thank you very much, appreciate it. i want to follow on this case of chris christie. bill baroni, chris christie will be campaigning for trump. he released this statement that reads in part. let me be clear, once again, i had no knowledge prior to or during these lane realignments and had no roles of authorizing them and anything said to the contrary over the past six weeks in court is simply untrue. i want to bring in our legal correnspo correnspondent, ari melber. well, we have been following two cases and this is a jury to your question decided that there were something rotten there that this is what this administration did and convicted to christie s aids. that s not good. nine counts and of wired fraud. the problem with chris christie is how that looks and if he had former aids singling him out. the good news for chris christie is that this case is finally over. he was not ever charged to be fair and clear and thus in that sense, the legal chapter appears closed. all right, i have halie touched on this at the end of last hour of the rolling stone verdict and the fact that there is three people, defendants in the defamation trial and how this has moved forward. this is a story that ran rolling stone, alleging a rather graphic gang-rape at a fraternity on campus. the administrator from the school sued and said not only your story was false but you defamed me along with others in doing it so recklessly. people often say i am going to sue, i will sue for defamation and you lied about me. very rarely those cases go to court and when they do, rarely you will get these major guilty verdict. with this jury found just in the last hour, no, there was recklessness and there were actual malice, these people did not just do their jobs poorly, they did their job incredibly recklessly, they did not get the basic fact-checking and the basic stories that a reporter is supposed to do. we are not talking about jail, we are talking about money damages up to $7 million. that chapter would come later. this is a huge blow to rolling stone which i should mention and people probably know at home has published a great number of issues and music and cultures and rights over the years. this story is a blemish for that. did rudy giuliani knows about last friday s, of october s surprise two days before the story broke. i mean i am talking about some pretty big surprise. yeah, i heard you said that this morning. what did you mean? you will see. you are lucky because we got to go. i am out of town. we are not going to go down. we are not going to stop fighting. we got a couple of things off our sleeves that should turn us around. why agents reportedly are against hillary clinton and what these new claims could mean for the race going forward. first, a reminder our coverage begins tomorrow eastern with a live one hour show hosted by your own joanne reid and tuesday tuned in on our msnbc election beginning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. . 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it was extremely difficult. people were reluctant to criticize an agency that they feel they are personally attached to. has comey put himself in an in possible position? he s extremely in a difficult position. some point presuming that she s elected president. comey is going to have to find some way of working with with her and that may under mind the relationship between the white house and the fbi. we played this earlier of rudy giuliani raising eye brows of what he said last week about this and what he said today. you are going to hear about it the next few days. i am talking about some pretty big surprise. oh yeah, i heard you said that this morning, what did you mean? we ll see. we got a couple of things up our sleeves that should turn this around. a couple of days before this broke and you looked and you said look out, something is coming down and certainly it did. what did you know and a lot of network pointed that out. i am not part of it at all. all i heard was former fbi agents telling me that there is a revolution going on inside the fbi and now is at a boiling point. so there are people in the fbi leaking information into trump s team. that s what it sounds like. rudy giuliani , he had a history of playing politics. i am a native new yorker. it is going to be difficult to manage and put rank and file fbi agents trying to do their job with integrity in a difficult situation. spencer, great work. national security for the guardian. today our pulse question, reports say the u.s. government is concerned hackers from russian may try to under mine the election, are you worried your vote may be compromised? 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this is the strangest election cycle of our history and voters just kind of reacting to it. it is interesting though and i know peter knows this more than i do. i think that s important to keep in mind that we are fighting over four or faive states. really, it has not moved since labor day. this does come down to which one of these campaigns going to grind it out in four or five states. peter, are we going to see a total redefined and folks like yourself are going to look at this and wonder of 2016, we just got this new free press michigan polls. this was done on the first and the third, the four point margin of error, that s a tie. the fracture is within the blue wall and the blue fortress and how this can all flip and redefine for 2016. you look ahead and it is changing and donald trump made it change. he reached out the voters. he lost the expanding l electorate. the news that you bring out of the michigan poll is the best news that hillary clinton s campaign will hear today. and it will be maybe hopeful? the day is still young and we have seen a lot of friday s surprises. our strategists and our peter hart and steven shales. thank you gentlemen. the security that its plan to protect election day. says it won t let up for a while. the cadillac xt5. what should we do? .tailored to you. wait it out. equipped with apple carplay compatibility. now during season s best, get this low mileage lease on this cadillac xt5 from around $429 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you re totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. they re planning unprecedented security on this year s election. cynthia mcfadden. officials in the department of the homeland security, military and the intelligence community tell nbc news the u.s. government is gearing up for an unprecedented effort to protect the country on election day. according to multiple intelligence sources, u.s. officials are deeply concerned about and preparing f some sort of cyber chaos next week. an attack on critical infrastructure including the u.s. power grid is one of three worse case concerned. so we have cynthia mcfadden, we should point out that there is no reus thomas hock the integrity of the vote itself. joining me is our executive director and an author of defeating isis. malcolm, thank you for joining us. how probable is this? well, it is a question of who s the actor that would want to do that or paralyze the united states. i have another book called the plot to hack america. that was oriented to russian te intelligence. they can do that and slow down the united states. the fundamental vote will not be corrupted. that s calculated on a white board there is this chaos and the noise that goes around it and gets people undone. what does the cyber community and cyber security expert is being enhanced to make sure that this is plausible. v verified russian intelligence and their version of nsa and the department of homeland security and the director of national e intelligence, all came together. almost all states and i believe 45 was the number of states have consulted with dhs which means national security agency is assisting as well and they are making secure that the computer switch actually tabulate the vote. the plot to do all of this. what security expert has to do to stay ahead of what could happen. that s what it is all about sfooch, we got to stay ahead of those of what cause the kay yochaos. we had this noise on the campaign trail saying that the russians may have something to do with it. you have to first believe that the enemy is out there and they re going to carry out some sort of a ferry s blood. if you don t believe that the russians have done this then you cannot make the offenses against the cyber weapon systems that they employ. that s what the states are doing now. they believe that russia and other actors can come in and interfere with the electorate. to handle it or shut off if they are attack. that s the big game. malcolm stance, thank you. i want to give you an update of the pulse. are you worried that your vote maybe compromised? even though it cannot happen but fears are real. 60% say yes and 40% say no, check out www.pulse.msnbc.com. tonight, who ll take the stage in cleveland to rock the boat for hillary clinton. the man on your left, jay z, will be there. what about beyonce? say no that it is not going to be beyonce. stranger things have happened before. one person cons to rally voters for clinton is her former boss, president obama in the final stretch before election day. i was working in the yard, my chest started hurting on very specific therapy. our individualized care model gives each lung patient specific treatment options with innovative procedures that are changing the way we fight lung cancer. we have excellent technology that will allows us to perform very specialized procedures for patients who have lung disease. to learn more about these targeted therapies and advanced procedures for lung cancer, as well as the experienced physicians who deliver them, go to cancercenter.com when he showed me the cat scans, i was so amazed. with this treatment, she had a dramatic response. call or go to cancercenter.com. cancer treatment centers of america. care that never quits. appointments available now. that he s almost done for his former secretary clinton this time in fayetteville, in north carolina. the clint the enthusiasm people have for president obama. here is the president in one of his two stops for clinton on thursday. if you are registered, you can vote right now. [ cheers ] there is early voting location just ten minutes away. our ron allen is in fayettevil fayetteville, the president is giving a lot of attention in north carolina. is he trying to do what can do for clinton what he could not do for himself. reporter: exactly, he lost in 2012 but he won in 2008. every vote counts. that s what the president have been saying there is numerous stops here. he s going to be back in north carolina, durham, on monday. debra ross is up, warming up the crowd. the president should be here in a moment. some of the people here have been waiting since 5:00 a.m. this morning outside in the rain for the president to get here. that s how popular he is here. you are right, at this point, the early voting figure, the african-american turn out is lower and the enthusiasm gap is that plclip that you just played, president obama gave the address of the early voting place. that s how intense it is and where they need to be. the other issue here is intense voting rights battle, there are thousands of people waiting for a federal judge s decision. 70,000 people have been purged. they want to vote on tuesday and they re waiting to get that right. that s the issue here. we ll see the president coming out there shortly. just a programming note for you. we ll have a one on one sit down interview with the president tonight. that ll air in with chris hayes on msnbc. blacks are indeed fired up. it is read wrong even if there is a slight difference between the early vote then and the early vote now. don t let that fool you. blacks are going to turn out on election day in north carolina. i can absolutely convince you, i hope i can of what i know and understand about the black community. not only the black community respect hillary clinton but believe in hillary clinton but they got a second incentive and that s we cannot tolerate donald trump. he s dangerous and we know that we got to stop him, we know that this country cannot be led by him. he s demonstrated who he is. and not only is he dangerous he has burglarized this campaign in the way that he has not only limited himself to a certain constituent. mariana had a chance to speak with running mate tim kaine about what perceived to be this slow start. take a look. well, it certainly started slow and a lot of states have done things since 2012 to make it harder to vote. we are worried about that. we are also seeing while the participation at some areas started a little slow, it is picking up. when we heard ronald talking about what s going on in north carolina with voting rights and a decision that s coming down. do you think in a larger scalp picture that the clinton s campaign have taken the black votes some what for grant it or is that a myth? that he is are remarks on the other side who s trying to convince black that they should not be so supportive. that kind of generalization does not play well with most blacks who understand the difference. democrats and republicans and certainly donald trump and hillary clinton. i would not pay any attention to that. the fact that the matter is, if blacks go to the polls, if there are any attempts from keep them voting. they ll get the ballot that ll allow them to vote so that decisions can be made on them later. i am not worried about that at all. what i feel in my heart is that blacks are goi to vote and they re going to vote in large numbers and they re going to get out in the polls and hillary clinton is going to win this election. all right, congresswoman, i want to get you on the record with this. the leak of the fbi, it under mind the clinton s candidacy. i think the disappointment in the fbi director is profound. i think that he made a mistake that he interfered with this election and he caused us to have a little bit of a pause and a little bit of a drop off that we have not recuperated from that. the leaks that have gone out and division appears to be in the fbi is unprecedented. nobody expected that you would have false information coming out of the fbi. rudy giuliani needs to be investigated also because he had a role in this. congresswoman, maxine waters, thanks for your time. you are so welcome. could she turn the tie in georgia? our new polls is showing the dead heat, our chris jansing is talking to the people at the polls, next. on this side of the road is virginia. and on this side it s tennessee. no matter which state in the country you live in, you could save hundreds on car insurance by switching to geico. look, i m in virginia. i m in tennessee. virginia. tennessee. and now i m in virginessee. see how much you could save on car insurance. or am i in tennaginia? hmmm. 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