go right to cnn as evan perez live outside the core, bring us up speed on what has happened ever will john the jury, is still not in the room at this moment. and the prosecution and the defense could could get to their closing arguments as soon as that happened. and as soon as the jury is in the room but as you pointed out, abbe lowell, a hunter biden s attorney? no surprise here. let s be honest indicated did in the pretrial in the pretrial hearing just now that he doesn t believe 100 biden will with testified the formal word will come when the jury is present and part of what they re arguing right now behind the scenes. is what jury instructions, what the jury will be told about all of this. one of the things that abbe lowell got agreed to was that the jury will be told that you can t hold it against the defendant for not testifying in his own defense the judge, though, has push back on the defense s efforts to add more language to the jury instructions that would be more favorable to 100, for instance, the idea that he would he didn t knowingly violate the law, which is something that defense is really all about. and they also wanted to they also want to make the argument that hunter biden did not think he was addicted to drugs when he bought that gun? in october of 2018? that s the reason why we re here and why hunter is facing these three federal charges that could send him to prison if he is convicted, but it s you pointed out, we could very much have this case in hands of the jury today if a hunter biden does not testify and john, i mean, the fact that we re here we had about ten witnesses. i think i was to ten witnesses or four-and-a-half days of testimony on the part of the by the prosecution s this case really is what the jury is going to be considering after all of that, i appreciate you giving us sort of the real-time description of what s going on inside the courtroom. because the attorneys are just having these discussions with the judge, right now. can you a little us a little bit more about the jury instructions that abbe lowell did want, but didn t get for the defense here and it does have to do with what is their main argument they are making the case at hunter biden did not think when he signed the documents that he was addicted to drugs, write that right john this has been really the focus of the defense. they have tried their best to point out to the jury what the prosecution has brought on so far does not show that a hunter biden was was doing drugs in october in the month of october of 2018? today, you have text messages, you have testimony from september of 2018 in november of 2018. and so that s what they re trying to focus on and what what what hello was trying to do was to make this more clear in the instructions of the jury is going to get the form that they re going to fill out when they when they vote on guilty or not guilty the judge pointed out that the instructions that they re going to get when they when they get read out to them, will have the word knowing in there. so that s the reason why she said it was not necessary to put this to put this more fully in the form that the jurors were get. so low has not one very many of these arguments with the judge. so it s not a surprise that that he didn t get his way, but for the prosecution s point of view, they believe that what the law simply says is that he was using the drugs, using drugs around the time that he bought the gun. and so that s where they are going to focus there argument when we get to that this morning, jon. alright. evan perez, keep us up to speed, let us know when the jury is back in the roman. frankly, what happens next inside there. thank you so much. absolutely with us now as former prosecutor jeremy saland for more on this. all right. let s talk about jury instructions because i think that s really interesting in a second, but first, just your initial reaction to all indications. now pointing to a hunter biden not taking the stand. i mean, shocks and nobody who s an attorney and for that matter, probably many people in the public you want to testify because you think that s the best evidence and have very well may be, but there s so much impeachment material. there s so many things to confront him on, not just where other people have said, but his own word is own actions evidence is really strong against them, so it s a smart move, but i m sure he wants to say i wasn t using drugs then i was not addicted. that s how i was going to ask what risk outweighed the benefit here in the end, do you think for with regard to him taking this lowell is trying to make the argument we just heard that at that moment he was not addicted and he didn t believe he was addicted he was cleaned during that time and you heard from his daughter that he was doing well even though she was impeached as well. but if you get up there and all of a sudden you open that door and you re going to be asked, wasn t treated this and then there s this and then there s the image and there s the book, and there s the residue from the cocaine and crack cocaine and there s a crack pipe there s so much that they re going to build and build and build. and before you know it, your credibility is shot and right now, if we believe what we have read that you had one juror, for example, who was crying an in tears, there s a real opportunity potentially. at a notification or maybe hanging someone, you get in there and you lie it s not good. that s a great point. so let s now get into this discussion that is happening kind of argument in court right now regarding jury instructions, we know especially from very recent past jury instructions, the language of the jury instruction is so important to how things proceed when they go behind closed doors abbe lowell hunters, attorney, agreeing to allow the judge to give an instruction to the jury that they shouldn t hold it against him, that he did not he did not testify in that case, but then this discussion about what additional language or not can be will be added with regard to the instructions. why does this matter so much? well, it shouldn t be should it should be kant. he has a right to testify, doesn t have to testify, and you should not take an assumption or presumption one way or another. that s so critical because you cannot use your lack of words against you. that s not fair. no one should be judged that way in the law, in the constitution says that. so that s number one. number two, i almost forgot the question but with regards to their fighting now over what additional language in your instructions with regard as evan says, the judge s already said that the word knowing is going to be in the instruction, but abbe lowell is pushing for there to break because he is hanging. lowell is hanging his hat that at the time when he meeting biden hunter biden was filling out that form. he wasn t knowingly an addict. he wasn t knowingly and abuse preserve drugs. and if he was cleaned during that time and you ve heard evidence from moments before and maybe moments after, but during that moment in time, he was sober and he knew and believed he wasn t didn t believe he was violating the law. that is so critical. that s that goes to the heart of their case. that is really that the depth of their case believe me when i say he did not know when this made me wonder when it comes to closing arguments. you can lean on a lot in terms of thematically and your closing. but for the defense, do lean on the lack of pinpointing him being on drugs at that moment with the jury or do you lean on more of the emotion that we have seen come out and the relate ability. they re not mutually exclusive. you can absolutely. you should lean on the fact that the evidence corroborates that he was doing drugs or addicted potentially trump is very vague. vague, but he was addicted to drugs at time a, b, and we ll say that the big gun possession and purchase was times c and maybe at time d, but a times c at that moment it wasn t. and even if even if you may believe he was this is a common problem that we all have to deal with them, families, and friends and people we love addiction is scary and frightening. and you lean on that too to paint that whole picture. what you re kind of pointing to this, the likelihood of a hung jury in this case is what do you think? i can t give you a certainly a number of really work that way, but it s much when we were talking about potential to hang during the trump case, there s no emotional component. there may have been a pleasure political component there, but there was no emotional. it didn t talk at your heartstrings and say, i know somebody who falsified records and they were really, really sad and terrible look i say, clutching cultural change. what you can say, i know somebody who had a horrible addiction and there are good, they re good people and a good person and it s disease may made really bad mistakes, but should they be held accountable and perpetuity for it? no. and that s the kind of thing that you would pull onto? that s really interesting. i m really curious as to how this all plays out. it s great to see you, jeremy. thank you so much. john wright this morning, donald trump will do something. no former president has ever done before. meet with his probation officer. this is all part of the process ahead of his sentencing next month soon as britain june grass is here. how is this process work? how is it going to work? brin yeah. john, like you just said, this is all part of the process. now, listen, it s customary after a guilty verdict, or if someone pleads guilty to go through this process shortly after that court proceeding, which of course, that happened in donald trump s world, just a couple of weeks ago. now, what s next? at customary as you ve just pointed out, is we re talking about the former president and head republican nominee being on the other end of this conversation with a probation officer, he ll also be in mar-a-lago in florida. typically any person that has pled guilty or is guilty of a crime has to actually come down to the courthouse just where he had his trial and meet with probation officer face-to-face. but this is going to happen over a virtual appointments with this probation officer, his attorney is also going to be present for at todd blanche, and that s not typical as well, but this, again, is customary. these are the questions that the probation officer is going to ask the former president to run right up a report and give that report to the judge, judge juan merchan, ahead of the sentencing and asks things about the background, about the former president s criminal history, his use of drugs, alcohol. also, there may be a question in there from the probation officer asking what the former president believes his sentencing should be, should it be lenient, should not be lenient. i mean they get to have that choice to say their own feelings 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for us with more on this. what are you learning about this possible? next move on. immigration and why president biden is doing it will sources have told cnn that the biden administration is considering a potential proposal so that would extend legal status to undocumented immigrants who are married to us citizens. officials are taking a look at an existing authority called parole in place, which essentially would shield undocumented immigrants who have us citizens as spouses from deportation and allow them to work in the country illegally while they pursue citizens sonship, it s estimated that this could impact anywhere from 750,000, 800,000 individuals. and it s a move that could appeal to latino voters states like arizona, nevada, and georgia. but at the same time, the administration is not just trying to shore up support among latino voters, but also progressives and immigration advocates who have grown quite frustrated with president biden s recent executive action, trying to clamp down on border crossings just last week, the president announced some measures that essentially shuts off the asylum process for migrants coming to the country illegally when to seek asylum once a certain threshold is met, that was a move that was really condemned by many progressive democrats who said that it is similar two policies invoked during the trump administration. and then there are groups like the aclu who are threatening to sue the administration to try to stop that plan from going it has gone into effect but really tried to halt it in its place. you ve had over the weekend homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas, defend the policy, pushing back on groups like the aclu, but oh, comes as president biden has been trying to show that he s taking action when it comes to immigration and border security. that is an issue that is really risen on the list of concerns for voters heading into november s election. but at the same time, we have both biden and trump trying to appeal to latino voters in key swing states. it comes as you have seen this narrowing in support between biden and trump is specifically on this issue of latino voters. if you take a look at a recent poll from them, the new york times and sienna college college, it found that the two men were nearly even with hispanic voters. that s a much shrinking of that margin compared to back in 2020. so both biden and trump i have been trying to make inroads with latino voters, especially in those critical bag battleground states like arizona and nevada, the biden campaign has really tried to paint, try pump as anti-immigrant over the weekend, they slammed the fact that he appeared with maricopa county sheriff or former maricopa county sheriff, joe our pio, who has really had some hardline immigration tactics. all of this coming as both men are trying to vie for that important latino vote, which could be critical for both of them in key swing states heading into november let thank you so much. john. all right. this morning, politico is reporting the vice president, kamala harris, is sizing up for potential competition. she made new comments about donald trump s possible running mix, focusing on their abortion record saying, quote, everyone on that list has supported a trump abortion ban in their state or as called for a national ban. in fact, many voted this week in the senate against the right to contraception. that s how far down the road they are with me this morning, republicans rogers, doug hi, democratic strategists simon rosenberg, simon first you that was the vice president volunteering. her opinion on these possible candidates and going right to the issue of abortion why well, there s no question that reproductive freedom and the stripping of rights and freedoms away from more than half the population from the women of america is going to be one of the central issues of this election. it was in 2022 because it is one of the most important issues in the country. i mean, we re seeing an extraordinary backsliding a fundamental rights and freedoms that are common throughout the modern world here in the united states. and it s putting not only is it stripping rights and freedoms away, but it s also putting tens of millions of women at risk when they become pregnant. and if they have a miscarriage and so i think you re going to see this issue continued to be central to everything that we talk about and it creates this basic contrast between a party that was fighting for freedom, an opportunity for the american people. and one that s trying to take those freedoms away so dug in the senate chuck schumer apparently this week, the senate majority leader will try to force a vote on guaranteeing the rights to ivf in vitro fertilization. all right? on the contrary, nationalizing that a little bit similar to the vote that he tried to have and did not pass guaranteeing a right to contraception what do you think republicans will du, when response to this? they didn t deal with the contraception when they thought that was political. will they take the same tactic here? well, you ll see some republicans peel off and support the bill, you ll see most republicans probably vote against it. it s john what we call as you know, a messaging bill. this is about campaign 2024. this is what the democrats want to talk about and why they feel that they re on the offense on this when they re on the defense on so many other issues, obviously, the economy inflation patient and the border being one of those. and it s why i think what arlette was talking about earlier is so important. this is election that s going to be won or lost on the margins. we talk about muslim voters in michigan. we talk about suburban women outside of phoenix, arizona, for instance, hispanic voters are critical for this election. i was in north carolina last week and when i was driving around through asheville and shelby, north carolina, i started to see mercado and hispanic grocery stores and things like that because it s a growing population. and i m telling republicans, if you re running for congress for governor, for president, you better focus on hispanic voters. you better make a real effort on it and spend money on hispanic media. it s correct critical. and this is one of the issues that will come up on this. but what we think about hispanic voters often gets tied in immigration and only immigration they care about every issue just as much as every other voter does. he, simon, let me ask you about a proposal that donald trump put forward when he was in nevada and this is something that i think a might appeal to a lot of workers, not just hispanic workers. first, but there are some in nevada who this appeals to the idea of no longer taxing tips. now, there are economic reasons and there are budget reasons why this is much more complicated than just saying it out loud. but i proposal like that, how attractive simon do you see that as being to voters? i mean, i think of the things that trump talked about this weekend. and when you when you think about hispanic voters are in the southwest, is that him bringing jaume or pio up on stage with him when he was in phoenix, was an extraordinary error. i mean, there is no a figure in the southwestern latino community who ve seen has been more anti-immigrant and anti hispanic. and joe are pi i ll and for trump to have voluntarily brought him up on stage, it was a reminder to this community about him wanting to affiliate with somebody who terrorized hispanic. hispanic families. in the end, phoenix for more than a decade. and i think that i know that there s this belief that trump is going to break through with hispanic voters. but what he has to overcome is that he is the most race racist, xenophobic figure in our modern politics. and i think this is going to be easy for us to discuss particularly when he s hanging out with guys like joe, our pile i want to shift years if i can, because in nevada, marjorie taylor greene, in a way compared donald trump, did jesus, there was another republican figure who did it and there s this song and it s making the rounds on tiktok big with the kids. that does the same thing which compares donald trump pretty overtly to jesus. i want to play a little bit of that i am the again, we ve been asking this morning, doug, what people s impressions are of this what is one to make of that? doug well, clearly it s crazy time, john, there s no there s no doubt about it, but i think donald trump benefits from us talking about the crazy time and not been focusing on those other issues that trump hi, there loses on or can gain from. when we talk about all the weird things that donald trump does. when we fact check the 37 lives that he told in a speech what we re not doing is talking about the issues that everyday americans care about they don t focus on this weirdness. and it is weird. they focus on the issues that impact them. they focus because on inflation and the economy, they focus on the border. and i think when we get distracted by all these weird things that donald trump does. and yes, simon is right. bolt spend time with you, our pio. we lose focus on those things that voters are telling us very loudly that they re concerned about very quickly send me your response to that. i m wondering if you agree with that well, i think i do think the election is going to be contested around the economy and health care and who s going to keep us safe and also, i think i m fundamental values. i think this issue of having a guy who now we know is committed sexual assault, who has defrauded the government of hundreds of millions of dollars, who is now 34 times a felon. i think these things are really going to matter. i mean, we know this from republicans like mitt romney who talk about this all the time, that he just can t support a republican who has been found to have committed sexual assault. so i do think into in addition to all the 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is through this proposal, is through the ceasefire deal. that s on the table right now. that s what we re focused on. that s what we re determined to see you achieved. secretary blinken will next be meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as well as benny gantz. but against designed sunday from israel s war cabinet and protests of netanyahu s handling of the war. this of course all happens just after the dramatic rescue operations saturday the brought home four israeli hostages after eight months in captivity in gaza. cnn s oren liebermann is in tel aviv force or what is the task for tony blinken now? kate, secretary of state antony blinken has to accomplish what the administration has been trying to do for months. and that s get to the point where they can announce that there is a ceasefire and a deal that would bring home the remaining hostages the problem is that hasn t gotten any closer over the weekend with israel s operation. quite the opposite. in fact, it may have moved even farther away. and there was not yet a finish line in sight before this weekend. so the challenge remains great here. as blinken is in egypt and he ll come here and it may even be more difficult with israel s political fracturing now with benny gantz, as you point out, war time, war cabinet, minister leaving the war cabinet and that makes it even more difficult to try to get get a deal in place here over the weekend, of course, on saturday, israel carried out a daylight raid into the part of the knew sayyed refugee camp that rescued four hostages. there was great joy here at that news and the us administration also welcoming the news of four hostage, hostage just that were rescued from a very densely populated area. but that of course, is the challenge in that operation the palestinian ministry of health in gaza says 274 palestinians were killed, hundreds more wounded. the idf disputes that it says there were less than 100 casualties. cnn cannot independently verify phi those numbers, but either way, it makes it one of the deadliest days in gaza in months. and that those sorts of major incidents have brought negotiations to a standstill. still, or at least created a major roadblock for them. and that s what blinken is stepping into here. meanwhile, just moments ago, the mother of one of the hostages spoke out a publicly saying how glad she wants to hold her son almog once again, after this rescue and calling on a hostage deal. but crucially remembering those moments that you had prayed for for so long last night i hit my fist full night s sleep in eight months my birthday wish is for all the hostages, families too. feel this way i m one of the lucky ones national security adviser, jake sullivan said that it s on hamas now to accept the deal, but it s not clear that israel is even in a position where it can accept the deal because far-right coalition members of prime minister benjamin netanyahu has government threatened to take down the government if he accepts the ceasefire deal that s on the table right now. huge task for 20 blinken ahead as he s about to head, they re great to see you or an thank you very much for the according. are with us now cnn military analysts, the former commanding general view us army in europe and the seventh army general mark hertling general, always great to see you. this is where the rescue operation took place on what was just telling likes about news, right? right there. we have this new video that or unreleased are was reporting on earlier, which we can see some of the details tells about how this operation was carried out. what do you see when you look at this general well, not much from the video john, to be honest with you, but i did read some reports from the israeli defense forces in terms of how this has to address, you went down what we had was one hostage in one building and in an apartment building, three of the others in another one, they had to make the decision the rescue force, a special operators had to make the decision of either going on in terms of a synchronized approach of hitting one building and then the next or simultaneous approach, which is extremely but called where you have to do both buildings at the same time. the reason for that is they were concerned about if they went into one building with the hostages and the other buildings be killed because they knew that israel was about to go in there. there were a lot of people around these hostages were being held by palestinian family 20 members that had been paid by hamas, which shows the support that hamas drives and influences others to give them. so you re talking about a very populated area in a un refugee camp region along with united nations people in that vicinity. so a lot of people who in these kind of situations when you re ever doing a hostage rescue against a bunch of terrorists, you don t know who are the terrorist and who aren t, who are just the local standby people, the folks who are honest observers, if you will. so it was a very difficult operation especially since it was done during the daylight and it also it tells me they probably got a whole lot of intelligence from a variety of factors to help them execute that. and of course, these are the, these are the hostages who were rescued. how repeatable is this for israel? is this the type of operation you could see them ever pulling off again? oh, absolutely these special operations teams train one of the things they train on is hostage rescue so what you re talking about is just these four hostages after they relieved, will be able to provide additional information which will help the israeli defense force but we ll talk about patterns of life the kinds of things that occurred while they were under captivity for eight months imagine that the fact that they were held by a family the fact that they probably had conversations with terrorists that might be something that they might consider important. but boy, when you give that information to the special operators, they know exactly hey, what to do with it, and it will help them put pieces of a puzzle together to potentially find other hostages as well. going to ask you for a quick answer on what s a very big subject general, the wall street journal s are forming on this effort by the united states to strike some kind of defense treaty with saudi arabia. the vitamin iteration is close to finalizing a treaty with sound what do you rabia that will commit the us to help defend the gulf nation as part of a long shot deal to encourage diplomatic ties between riyadh and israel. us in saudi arabian officials said, now leave the israel sayyed out of this. what would it mean from a military perspective to strike this kind of defense treaty with saudi arabia? well, we ve always had a very good partnership with saudi arabia. john, dating back to 1990 during desert shield, when we went into that area and it was part of the operation. but it s also caused a lot of problems for the saudi arabian government to have westerners in land of the holy mask. but you can t leave israel out of this. that s the sole purpose for this. they are the mr. blinken director burns from the cia are all trying to get saudi arabia to contribute forces to the end state of gaza and it s something that mr. netanyahu does not address. he doesn t and have a political end state to this war. he just has a military and state and it s one of the reasons that benny gantz resigns yesterday because he didn t see the political outcome of all of this fighting. he knows that as a former soldiers, a former chief of the israeli defense forces so there has to be some type of organization that will go into gaza and helps to cure it and provide security not only from a military perspective, but even such things as police and take away some of the power from hamas that has been there close to 20 years since 2006 when the last election was held. inside of gaza. and hamas was voted and refused to give elections after that. so there has to be middle eastern countries helping in there. and i think that s all part of the deal-making with saudi arabia. carl down clash, what s war is a continuation of politics by other means, you need the politics there at some point, benny gantz, the st. general hurtling great to see you. thank you so much. okay. it s time for siri to phone a friend, apparently, how a new partnership with openai could boost many aspects of apple devices. the anticipated the variant is abated announcement coming from apple. today. and the first black disney princess is about to get the own disney ride. a sneak peek at the new attraction, replacing the famed and controversial splash mountain older shames is cold calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise he also was compromised, secrets and spies. a nuclear game sunday at ten on cnn, lowering bad cholesterol can be hard even with a statin diets and exercise at tough 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supernova, this star known as caitlin clark, there would have been a debate i think that the committee decided to have all the debate before the olympic games so that we can get all of the distraction out of the way in team usa can go and do what they plan to do, which is break history. and when yet again, the eighth gold medal yeah. yeah. i was going to say kick button, take names later once they get to paris for everybody how caitlin clark responded to the news honestly, notice appointment like i think it just gives you something something to work for. you know, that s a dream, you know, hopefully one day i can be there and i think it s just a little more motivation you remember that and you know, hopefully in four years when four years comes back around, i can be there also want to play for everyone. how her coach responded the call on the bus and she texts me to let me know and, i just tried to keep our spirits. i mean, the thing she said was a coach they woke a monster which i thought was awesome which i also thought was awesome. what do you think of that i love that this is one thing i ll say about caitlin clark. i think everyone is having a debate over what s right and what s wrong and her focus has always been basketball. and this is why i love watching her play. this is why i love watching her game and she understands that you have to pay your dues. now, i will say this. the reason why i was shot kate, that they did not include her week because this is an opportunity to introduce this league, this sport, to a global audience. and you know, most people will be there to watch her. she put seats in the stands, so i get why there was all this pushback as to why isn t she there? but the fact that she said she woke a monster, i m looking forward to her after the break because, you know, they go they take a month off and they ll come back and play beginning in august. i m looking forward to her kicking butt. i m looking forward her to saying, okay, i see. you don t think that i deserve but i do deserve and i m i m thinking the only thing that can happen moving forward is that all this will do is make everything better for the league again, it s what time is it in the morning? i don t know where i am on which coast, but we re talking about when ball and it s amazing. i totally agree. we were just showing, let s try running it. the roster of the women who are going to play for team usa on the court, its star after star after star brittney griner s there it s like her story in and of itself, getting back to play in the olympic games is amazing. carrie let s just think about that. she was not more than a year ago in russia where we didn t know whether or not she d be back on united states soil within the next year or so. we forgot about that story. we have this star, and caitlin clark and let me tell you the right, this roster combined combined, there s over 18 wnba championships. we have mvps, final mvps. they re stacked. now, this still doesn t mean that she may not be an alternate, but she s keeping that close to the vest, whether or not she ll show up as an alternate and we don t know if that decidual ever be announced, but i ll tell you what. all we can say is we got more caitlin clark and we have more team usa, all wins all around exactly. it s great to see you carry, no matter what universe and coast your lawn or time-zone, it s always great to have you. thank you. thank you. thank you. yeah. i never know what time it is carried speaking for all of us. thank you all for joining us. this has been cnn news central. cnn newsroom costa, up next hi, it s christina again. i m here to tell you about an all new special offer from my friends at jacuzzi bathroom model that you don t want to miss. you already know jacuzzi has been making water-filled great for more than 65 years. and now they re bringing you this special tv offer. were waving all collation costs and postponing all payments for up to one year to cruzi bathroom 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today. i m mj lee at the white house and this is cnn hello, and welcome to allow viewers watching from around the world. i m going to kincaid ahead on scene and user. the new rise of europe s far-right, right wing parties, seeing a surge of support and parliamentary elections the eu commission president assures that the center is holding a bloated israel s leadership has benjamin netanyahu s main political challenger resigns from the war cabinet and us president joe biden s new campaign ad says donald trump is incompetent on the world stage. will discuss biden s latest effort to undermine he s put presidents arrival as recent polls show them, neck and neck from atlanta this is cnn newsroom with linda kincaid it s one of the world s largest elections with more than 370 million people are eligible to vote for the next european parliament. when now the results are coming in and far-right parties are projected to win a record number of states following four days of voting. or people across 27 countries went to the polls in the election, which will set the european union s priorities for the next five years. projections show that the mainstream center-right european people s party will remain the largest group european commission chief us live on the land celebrating her party s success. while acknowledging that extremes on both ends of the spectrum a gaining traction the center is holding budget is also true that the extremes on the left and on the right have gained support this is why the result comes with great responsibility for the parties in the center we may differ on individual points but we all have an interest in stability and we all want a strong and effective europe will protests is empowered to express their outrage gains for friends, right-wing parties, which took more than one in three votes cast according to official results french president emmanuel macron has dissolved parliament and called for snap elections in the coming weeks we re joining us now is class sebastian live from london? good to see you class. so this is a significant shift for parties that were once considered fringe. now projected to win a record number of seats yeah linda look it s been a years-long, if not decades long process where we ve seen incremental gains for far-right parties in europe, but i think it s safe to say now, and especially given how clearly we see that it feeds international politics, like in france, these parties are no longer on the fringes. this is the main mainstreaming of these far-right parties and the he s far right policies. now, look, it s clear also that the center did hold the epp, the european people s party led by eu commission president i still have underlying is still the biggest party in the european parliament. it did gain seats and she should be able to comfortably form a coalition with several other parties in the center and the center until left in order to be able to push through the policies that she wants. of course, there s another question, how do you over hershey is up for reelection. he time expires in july, so she ll be hoping that she can bring forward that support for that as well. but i think if you look to the right of that chart, you do see gains for the id group led by marine in a pen from france, which of course gained huge amounts of seats in this vote, the ecr, where giorgia meloni avidity is the key figure. and of course, ni, non-attached remembers now includes the afd, the alternative for germany party in germany that was deemed so far to the right that marine le pen actually kicked it out of the id group a few weeks ago. so that s another part of this story is that the far-right itself is not unified. so given that i think it s unclear at this point how much power they will wield within the parliament yeah, interesting looking at that graphic, i have to ask you across about france because the french president s party did not do well. and of course we had that surprise announcement by a menu macron cooling for snap elections in a matter of weeks that, that of course is a political risk this is a huge gamble and i think, well, the rise of the he, it national rally party and one other far-right party in france didn t surprise everyone. certainly macron s reaction to it did his argument is that he needs to now seek clarity from the parliament so that he can move forward. but he certainly didn t disguise his concern about what the rise of the far right all right. will mean for france and for europe, take a listen of hamas no hope place. in france, the far-right parties representatives have garnered nearly 40% of all votes for me who has always considered europe to be united, strong independent, and good food for france. this is a situation that i cannot come to terms with. the rise of nationalists, of demagogues is a danger for our nation, but also for our europe, for france is placed in europe and in the world so here s hoping, of course that he would be able to win over voters. of course, it s not his job that s up for grabs, but it is the parliament where he will be hoping that his liberal agenda will gain a new mandate if it doesn t go his way. of course, we could then see a far-right prime minister in france and an even more difficult situation for menu on macron, as he seeks to push through his policies for his last three years as president of france we ll see if this political risk pays dividends, pick him later this month, let sebastian for us in london. thanks so much. don t run tall as the aid chief political commentator for the independent and a visiting professor at king s college in london. he joins us via skype from london. good to have you with us good morning. good morning. well, this was a full day voting marathon. it happens every five years that of course, saw europe shift to the right. we saw these far-right parties making gains and really delivering stunning to face to two of the blocks. most important leaders, france and germany. what did you make the results? the ones so far the projective results, i should say i m more surprised that d be the results were they were predicted which makes president macron s response more surprising as we heard just there, he said, he cannot accept the rise of right-wing extreme party and he s going to call a general election in france as a response. i mean, that s that is that, that did take me by surprise. well, as the fall of the belgian government of thought but president macron is a very, very interesting politician i think what he s trying to do put himself at the leadership the leadership of the center across europe is a very interesting thing and we will see if his gamble comes off. of course, he s not, he s not putting his own position at risk and they already has no majority in the french parliament but it s a very very interesting gamble, especially in the light of what rishi sunak has done in britain. yeah, exactly. a huge gamble, one that marine le pen, who of course lays france s national rally party and has such strong results. it was quite pleased to hear and no doubt but i won t ask you about overall is european parliament shifting more to the right what that will mean on issues like immigration, on issues like security going forward well, i mean, it s it s interesting from a british perspective but there seems to be something similar happening across europe. i mean, the british politics has seen a sudden a sudden change in the past year or two on issues such as, such as climate change, rishi sunak are prime minister as as adjusted policy because we were very much set in a two party consensus about the urgency. i m a change and about the progress towards zero and the rishi sunak has said, we ve got to adjust the speed at which we approach that target because we cannot load on one voters. and now that, that sentiment seems to be very widespread in europe until you ve got leaders like giorgia meloni in italy who did extremely well in the european parliament election and it and it s fair to say the au president as live on the land soul that this shift was coming and in turn shifted further to the right yes. i mean, that is happening happening across europe on especially on these two issues climate change policies and immigration giorgia meloni was elected in italy on a very strong anti-immigration platform. i mean, italy obviously bears a large brunt of the arrivals across the mediterranean from africa she s adjusted her position actually since you since you entered office. but the attitude of other properties across europe on immigration as taking a much tougher line. and the idea of third country processing, which britain has taken to the extreme of their orlando scheme is now an emerging consensus across europe and of course, germany s later. i ll have shelfs. potty had the worst ever result in european election coming in third after two other parties. why was that um, it s interesting because his his most controversial issue over the past year has been germany s reluctance, support for the ukraine war and its hesitancy about a full, more full-throated policy, which olaf scholtz, i thought had had navigated. well, but i think domestic issues of the cost of living, problem, which has been the dominant across europe he hasn t handled so well and i think we ve seen the afd, the german right-wing anti-immigration party taking full advantage of that shift in sentiment that we were talking about across europe john rental in london. we appreciate your time. thanks so much for joining us. my pleasure israeli war cabinet member benny gantz says he is resigning from the country s emergency government that up after the october 7 hamas attacks, in a televised statement, who described the decision is quite complex and painful gantz s departure comes just weeks after issued an ultimatum to prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as he called on him to lay out a new plan for the war against hamas by june 8 netanyahu, afghans to change his mind saying now is the time to quote, join forces again, it s made his thoughts clear, accusing the israeli leader of putting his own political considerations ahead of a strategy for a post-war gaza. and he s calling on netanyahu to hold an election in the coming months were gantz was expected to resign saturday, but postponed his announcement following news that israeli forces had rescued four hostages held in gaza. officials there say the raid killed at least 274 palestinians. israel says it estimates a number of casualties from the operation to be under 100 civilians. cnn cannot independently verify either sides figures we are tracking all the developments from london where scene is not a shear. and journalists, ellicott can ask standing by for his good to have you both with us. i will start with you, elliott, first on the resignation of benny gantz, he had given an ultimatum. he wanted a plan to bring the hostages home. there are still over 100 and gaza, but he also wanted a post-war plan for gaza. his resignation while not unexpected, he did express his frustration with netanyahu, right he did. and as you say, it wasn t a surprise that he announced his resignation, but that doesn t make it any less impact for benny gantz was seen as a kind of moderating influence on prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he ensured for that he was in the war cabinet along with netanyahu, along with defense minister yoav gallant. and that s specifically the far-right ministers in benjamin netanyahu s governing coalition would not be in the war cabinet. so all of the decisions and the prosecution of israel s war against hamas since the hamas terrorist attacks of october the seventh has been a result of decisions made by the war cabinet. it hasn t just been netanyahu and it hasn t been netanyahu and his far-right ministers. but what s going to happen now is first of all, netanyahu, it s important to note, is not under threat in terms of his position as prime minister. he still has numbers in israel s parliament, the knesset, 64 out of the house hundred and 20 seats. so as long as his right-wing minister s don t bolt from the coalition than he has pretty much politically at least safe in government until october 2026. what it does do though, is leave netanyahu s more isolated and also gives more power and will perhaps leave him more open to persuasion by those far-right ministers in terms of the war. and in terms of those hostage negotiations and not or to-do, i want to ask about this israeli operation to rescue the four hostages, which left dozens scores of palestinians, including children are dead. gaza puts the number at 274 killed, almost 700 injured or more. can you tell us well, this will suddenly mark one of the deadliest days that we have seen in gaza in a month. of course, this raid took place mid-morning. it was during the day which is somewhat unusual to see a rate of this scale taking place during the day. but this is an area, as we know, that is currently sheltering thousands of civilians ends and then nuseirat, refugee camp we have seen this particular camp come under heavy bombardment over recent days, killing dozens of civilians. but this was according to residents on the ground speaking to cnn colleagues at something they have not seen for the carnage that has been described in the aftermath of this rate is something on a scale scale that we haven t necessarily heard from civilians on the ground in months, and we have seen graphic and distressing video emerging from the ground, including from the al-aqsa martyrs hospital, which is nearby, showing the overwhelmed hospital ward with bodies on the ground the hostile of course, simply unable to cope with this it s level of casualties that we are seeing. this is something that we have heard, of course repeatedly now from health officials on the ground in gaza. and of course, as we have been hearing from residents, they have described this, some of them as hell on earth. that is the message that we ve been hearing. we ve been hearing from others saying that ambulances weren t able to actually access the area in the aftermath of this road because it had been deemed a military zone because it s simply wasn t secure enough for paramedics to access those in need of help. but of course, this has really raised concerns over what this could mean for any potential peace plan currently on the table. this is drawn fierce criticism from amazon so the international community, particularly from regional leaders, we ve heard from hamas condemning this attack as a brutal massacre. the palestinian authority has also been vocal in condemning the attack. but of course, we ve been hearing from egyptian officials who ve expressed their concerns that this could place any sort of negotiations currently on the table. in jeopardy, particularly as the peace plan currently put forward by, according to us president joe biden, by the israeli government calls for a peaceful exchange of hostages. many now questioning why there s raid needed to take place, particularly as the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has outspoken, rejected this peace plan currently on the table all right, not a big shift for us. and elliott glaucon and london. thank you very, very much what, donald trump is back on the campaign trail, but he can t seem to stop talking about his criminal conviction. we ll have more on he is latest style when we come with the freestyle libre three system, know your glucose levels no finger six needed all with the world s smallest and thinnest sensor manage your diabetes with more confidence and lawyer a1c, dry for free at freestyle libri.us pod spring moving segall has been extended. save up to 25% on moving in storage until june 10, and cbi pods, it s been trusted did with over 6 million moves, don t wait, use promo code 25 now to save, look at pot.com today yeah, introducing nets plaque psoriasis. he thinks is flaky red patches 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avoid an engaged major battles in europe is just not realistic that s why it s so important that we continue to have their alliance as we continue to be felt continue to keep nato strong continue to do what we ve been able to do for the last since the end of world war ii well, in the coming hours or probation officer is set to interview donald trump as part of the sentencing phase of his hush money trial. the meeting will be virtual with his attorney present as trump is back on the campaign trail, trump s advisers are eager for him believe, talk of his legal troubles out of his speeches that so far that hasn t been the case cnn s alayna treene reports former president donald trump in his first campaign rally since being convicted in a manhattan courtroom last week, surprisingly, did not talk about that trial specifically during his speech. instead, he spoke about his legal troubles more broadly. he also criticized special counsel jack smith, who was not part of this case referring to him as a quote, dumb son of a and also claimed that the weaponization of the justice department in this country is worse than what you would find in a third world country. take a listen to how he put it. i ll tell you what so third world country has weaponization, where they go after political candidates, like we have either this guy can t get elected anything without cheating. the only way he can get elected is to cheat now, despite that rhetoric, i will tell you that from my conversations with donald trump s campaign, they really do want him to leave this weekslong trial in the past and really begin turning back to a general election campaign message that includes talking about immigration, something he spoke about at length on sunday, as well as the economy and crime and he did make one on new announcement on sunday, he said that in a second administration of his would eliminate taxes on tips and that s something particularly important to voters here in nevada, especially given the state s reliance on tourism and transportation. now, just looking ahead to monday, donald trump is set to have a pre sentencing hearing. the probation officer now this is pretty routine following a conviction like his however, what s not normal is that it is going to be virtual will towed. he ll be at his mar-a-lago home with his defense attorney, todd blanche for that. alayna treene, cnn, las vegas larry sabato is the director of the university of virginia, said of the politics. he joins us now from charlottesville. good to see laurie. thanks to see you. linda, for the first time since trump s criminal conviction he s been out campaigning over the weekend. who s in las vegas, nevada key battleground state which a recent fox survey found hips in his favor his speech that lasted about an hour in the scorching heat, 12 people had to be taken for treatment. what stood out to you during that campaign rally? it s the fact that he is attracting so many younger and older hispanics and that really is the difference in nevada, nevada usually votes democratic, but it s always close. and trump realizes he has a chance to capture that state, which biden won four years ago but of course trump was on display. he used a very inappropriate term to describe the special counsel as he always does. he goes off script and he says things that end up. i think hurting him more than helping him it s interesting looking at a new cbs poll overall showing that biden and trump and neck and neck, biden slightly ahead in the battleground state. so biden at 50% verse trump s 49%, but most of misdemeanors voters say their main rationale for supporting him is opposing trump that s up from march now, his team has released and you add today, i just want to play some of that sound and get your reaction she s trump for what insincere going for corrupt, dangerously competent, and capable. my view, the leadership. and if we give donald trump four more years, we ll have a great deal of gal80. you ve ever been able recover america s standing in the world mark capacity to bring nations together what s your reaction to that new attack ad by the biden campaign? linda, i think it s very effective. it s effective because it s both clever and accurate that is what most world leaders, at least the world leaders who traditionally had been america s allies. that s the way they think of a president trump. and of course, the world leaders, his closest to we would normally consider adversaries, vladimir putin, kim jong on and in the north korea, viktor orban in hungary and others. so i think it s an accurate add and it really gets the point across. it s well put together and it speaks to biden s message in france over the weekend, riley paid tribute to pulling us soldiers. he went to a world war one cemetery on the outskirts of paris, which trump avoided when he was president. this is a burial ground that s home to fought over 2000 american soldiers. biden never mentioned trump s name, though, doing any of those speeches, but he did highlight how important it is to protect the alliance wright, who was he speaking to you are absolutely correct to say he didn t name trump, but everyone knew that the contrast was there and they caught it because at least some people remember what trump did during those four years. and biden, i think conducted itself very well. he appears presidential. he has a number of other international conferences and engagements coming up. and you know, that s, that s the way a president running for reelection should look and it s a nice contrast with your opponent who is going to have his first meeting with a probation officer? after 34 felony counts. yeah, i want to ask about that, so that s meeting with the probation officer will happen monday after the guilty verdict that came through in the hush money case. what sort of sentence do you expect? he ll get? well a minority of the people who study this area think you ll get some prison time and it s possible. i tend to think the judge will be creative. he will certainly get some punishment. maybe it s in-home retention, maybe it is some public service of one sort or another. so that would be interesting, wouldn t it to see a president and out doing community service and this president in particular the judge, will come up with something appropriate probably isn t prison time, but the point is, he was convicted. he ll be the first convicted felon avar to be a nominee for president. or if she evs elected to be in the oval office. i m not sure that s something for our country to be proud of. yeah. we will see how this plays out. larry sabato, good to have you with us as always. thanks so much. thank you. limit mulkey officials says he s quitting israel s war cabinet ahead more details and benny gantz is move and the latest developments from gaza plus millions of people. our at-risk of salvation and zimbabwe s the country deals with one of its worst droughts on record russia for 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latest proposal last hours, but with ha hellyer, senior associate fellow at the royal united services institute, i asked him why we aren t hearing more from western political leaders when it comes to the death toll from the latest operation in gaza i m afraid there s no good answer to that question in the sense that it simply confirm that the value of palestinian life in this whole conflict as seen from western capitals, is incredibly low. and i think that what you ve seen over the past couple of days as with i think only joseph burrell from the european union actually even noting the incredible trouble civilian cost where we re talking almost 300 palestinians having to die at the hands of the israeli defense forces and others really forces in order to free four hostages. so it s extraordinary. and what you just heard from the united states was sickly, hamas is false which i think is extraordinary of course hamas is a bad actor, a terrorist organization, and so on but the hamas did not kill these people and in any other operation where hostages are being freed whether domestically or internationally we wouldn t call this a success. we d call it out huge failure because we would also consider, against the positive nature of freeing for hostages was 100 times more than that of people dying the palestinian side. so i think the question that a lot of people around the world du, be asking is simply do these western political leaders consider the palestinian lives matter? and i think the answer is not going to be very positive. and of course it s also frustration from families of hostages when it comes to the way this is proceeding, we know that a 105 hostages were released during that ceasefire back at the end of november. it was a week long ceasefire. by contrast, only seven hostages have been rescued by the idf for released by hamas surely as these fires going to be the most effective way to bring the most hostages home with less risks risk to civilians in gaza so there s be in a number of ceasefire deals and hostage deals revealed over the past eight months. and they ve been rejected time and again by israel despite the pleading of the families of the hostages in israel and i think you re absolutely right, that actually quite a number of hostages have been killed as a result of this war on gaza. in the midst of idf strikes on gaza in fact, that it was recently claimed, although i don t think this has been verified yet, but it was claimed that even in the midst of this particular rescue operation, other hostages were killed so i think that it s absolutely true that if we re going to see hostages being released the most hostages being released it will come as a result of a hostage negotiation deal. and ceasefire. otherwise, i suspect we will see more hostages dying. but we ll also see scores multiple times more palestinian civilians dying and i would remind your viewers that over the past nine months, we ve seen at least 40,000 palestinians being killed as a result of this war on gaza after an attack in october on october 7 that killed 1,200 israelis. the numbers are really quite extraordinary and i think that people ought to keep in mind that going forward if we re going to have any chance of any sort of coexistence in the holy land and israel, palestine then the dignity of all human lives has to be passed. are amounts as opposed to this particular cycle where frankly an occupation that is so brutal and the campaign that is so brutal is simply going to continuous cycle of violence and hatred for many years to come thanks to ha hellyer, we use visuals are trying to persuade the g7 to approve a massive loan to ukraine using profits from frozen russian assets $50 billion would become available for ukraine to use in the war with russia. but some details still needs to be worked out before the deal can be finalized sources say us president joe biden is trying to fast track the process. so an announcement can be made in the g7 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coming from the main opposition leader here in south korea, ej knowing who is saying paraphrasing him ever so slightly that if this game of chicken continues, that this could end up resulting in a localized conflict or worst-case scenario and all out war. and linda essentially what we re trying to do here, gauging from the bureau in seoul is to figure out the tempo of what is happening with this back-and-forth. and we have newer information coming in. that s indicating from south korea s joint chiefs of staff that they seem to believe north korea is preparing their own loudspeakers to be pumping in propaganda from north kilometers on un inke to south korea, mirroring what south korea did yesterday. so again, this seems to be picking up ever so slightly after we were all hoping that perhaps we would have an intermezzo or a pausing, or a slowing of this tempo. so talking about what south korea did, we have images of about nine or ten military vehicles with loudspeakers coming out of the roofs of those miller matairie trucks and the loudspeakers for some duration of time late yesterday afternoon, we have confirmation played k-pop songs, specifically attuned from bts, also played news bulletins from south korean media agencies detailing human rights abuses perpetrated by kim jong-un s regime. in north korea. so speaking of that regime, kim yo jong, kim s sister coming out with new statements after those loudspeaker broadcast from the south saying that this could amount to a prelude to a very dangerous situation, saying that there could be new responses from north korea based on the propaganda loudspeaker brought a cast that emanated from the south, wrapping up here, linda, we have an astounding 1110 trash balloons that have flown from the north, making it to south korea. so we are all watching to see what happens with the tempo for this balloon imbroglio. linda all right. hopefully things calm down i m like valeriia insult. thanks so much more than 80 million people are under heat alerts here in southwestern us, as these southern half of the country grapples with extreme heat. at the start of the work week some areas because he temperatures as high as 110 degrees fahrenheit. that s about 43 degrees celsius. he has seen a meteorologist, allison chinchar, with more record temperatures are set to return it that heat dome really starts to set up once again across the southern tier of the us in florida temperatures looking at least one more day of possible records for places like orlando, jacksonville, and perhaps even tampa high temperature, they re top again at 95 degrees before dropping back to 87 as we go a few days later. and that s thanks to some showers and thunderstorms that will be moving back into the area quite a different story, however, for both making and jackson where the temperatures will actually be going back up as we make our way into the middle of the week. and that s the same story out to the west where those temperatures are expected to drastically rise over the next few days, albuquerque going from cells 77, all the way up to 98 by wednesday, denver, colorado going from 84 up to 93 and places like phoenix, las vegas, even upper around sacramento, all looking at those temperatures well, above average for this time of year, when we look at the heat risk again, you can see a lot of these areas up in that moderate risk area, the orange color you see that? but even a few spots in red from western texas stretching all the way up into utah and even california, that concern there is that yes, even though it s june, it s summertime. we expect taught temperatures. these are considered dangerously hot for a lot of these areas compared to what they normally would see in for some of these areas. it s going to last for quite some time, take tucson, for example. every single one of the next seven days, this temperature is expected to be well above average, las vegas, for example, a very hot place. but right now, they re average high is only about 98. they re not even technically supposed to be at triple digits. but if you look at every single one of the next seven days, all of them looking at those high temperatures into the triple digits some of them even making it awfully close to around 110 thanks to allison chinchar, there will families in zimbabwe and struggling to put food on the table as a terrible drought plagues the country in the south of al-furqan. the threat of another failed rainy season has unicef raising the alarm children lineup for what may very well be their only meal today, waiting patiently for a scoop and maybe two of macaroni their parents to rely on neighboring farms for work out of the job du to crop failure. no crops mean no food, let alone any money to buy it. a drought caused by a combination of naturally occurring el nino and human-induced global warming, plagues zimbabwe it s the worst drought here in years after a failed rainy season from october to march. and the threat of 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stands still we re on a road trip to show you what s known as a ghost village we are technically still in beijing about 40 miles from the city center. and we came here to show how people have moved over time. this was once a thriving village now it s almost abandoned houses in the village are overgrown with weeds in this home reminders, children were once here are at work and school certificates hanging on the wall, shoes lay on the ground we don t know exactly what this once was, but it s clearly locked up. the windows are broken. no one has been here for a while to give you some context in the 1980s, only about 20% of chinese families lived in cities. now that number is closer to 70%. this village reflects that transition this shift isn t without side effects as young people move to cities for better opportunities in jobs in some cases, they re leaving parents even children behind urbanization on such a massive scale has drastically changed the economic and social landscape across 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i would imagine absolutely devastating for their daughter. the emts arrived in minutes. they found no pulse. 47-year-old shele covlin was beyond help. the police come to the scene, eventually a detective comes to the scene. detectives found a tub full of bloody water and shele wrapped in comforter on it next to her. above the tub, a cabinet. they believe she grabbed it and landed hard in the tub. and so investigators began the difficult process of deconstructing a life that had just come to a sad and mysterious end. the police would soon learn that shele covlin was larger than life. nobody admired her more than her sister, eve and brother-in- law, mark carstadt. we would have a blast and laugh a lot. she was a lot of fun. she graduated with a marketing degree. and then my dad had asked her if she wanted to come and work with him at merrill lynch. shele eventually became a wealth manager. the money was good and so was the prestige. shele was fancy. she was smart, she was educated. reporter: shele s friend, stephanie goldman, remembers the day they took her to the friars club. it was wintertime, she was wearing her fur coat, her mink coat. men just came over to her. it was like being swept off her feet. she s got the finance job, the style, i mean it sounds like she was kind of the classic new york city woman? absolutely. absolutely. she was. in february of 1998, shele went to a jewish singles mixer in manhattan, where sparks flew with a guy she met there. his name, rod covlin. she called her sister that night with an outrageous announcement. she was all giggles, and she said i met a guy, really nice guy. and she said we re on our way to the airport to elope. she was laughing. and i said shele, please don t do this. eve talked her sister out of it that night, but shele was serious and so was rod. shele was 11 years older than him, but that didn t seem to matter. his parents, dave and carol covlin said he adored her right from the start. he told us he has a girlfriend, and we have to meet her. i said okay, passover is coming up. we don t have time right now. no, you have to meet her. a brunette back then, shele married rod six months later and reality set in as they settled down to life as a couple. it wasn t exactly bliss because while shele was a stunning overachiever, rod was, well, not in the same league. he was a stock trader of middle end success. what i did see was a guy who really had a lot of big ideas, and was unable to execute on any of them. but he had a couple of talents, martial arts. and he won money. two years after she married rod, shele gave birth to baby anna. she was inseparable from anna. she was doting on that child. she was an incredible mom. a second pregnancy followed, twins, but that ended in tragedy. so they were born prematurely, and then they died. oh my gosh. one at childbirth and one like a few hours later. how did she handle that? how do you support her? devastating. the entire year was a nightmare for her. then in 2006, shele had a baby boy. she and rod named their son, miles. but now three years later, shele was dead, and the scene inside that apartment on the upper west side was chaos. mark says eve could barely function. when i first saw her, she walked down the corridor, and she was as white as a sheet. she was in terrible shock. karl was an nypd detective. he was there too, pondering various scenarios. i ve been to places where people have fallen in a tub and anything is possible. in this case, that would be an understatement. this mystery is about to heat up. turns out the covlins seemingly perfect marriage was anything, but. coming up, a whirlwind romance that ended in a storm. she said he doesn t get a job and he is just hanging around the house. she was very frustrated. she said he s driving me crazy. and it might get worse. when shele told me he was going to be living across the hall, my first instinct was i don t think this is a good idea. when dateline continues. y®. and some lost over 46 pounds. and i m keeping the weight off. wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. i m reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only fda-approved weight-management medicine that s proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight. wegovy® shouldn t be used with semaglutide or glp-1 medicines. don t take wegovy® if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop wegovy® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. wegovy® may cause low blood sugar in people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes. tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest. depression or thoughts of suicide may occur. call your provider right away if you have any mental changes. common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. with wegovy®, i m losing weight, i m keeping it off. and i m lowering my cv risk. that s the power of we. check your cost and coverage before talking to your health care professional about wegovy®. you re the one that i want nexgard® combo is the only monthly topical that protects against fleas, ticks, tapeworms, and more. use with caution in cats with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard combo,. you re the one that i want .the monthly one-and-done you want. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. 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right. you can t even think about the magnitude of it all. shele s in-laws, cheryl and david covlin were also shocked. their son, rod, called with the news. did you get any details? nothing. when you arrived, what s going on? roderick was sitting on the couch. i have never seen my son shell shocked and speechless in my life. the next few days were a blur. for religious reasons, the family decided not to have an autopsy performed. he went with his rabbi who said don t do the autopsy. it was only as friends and family gathered for the jewish period of mourning that they had time to think about the vibrant woman they just lost. she was an incredibly devoted mother. she was an incredible person. but what was also on their minds was dark and troubling. shele s rocky marriage to rod. she says he doesn t get a job. he goes to the gym twice a day, and he is just hanging around the house. and she was very frustrated. she said he s driving me crazy. in 2009, shele confessed to her sister that her marriage was in serious trouble. and she said we re broken and we just have to part ways. and she cried. she wept to me. one thing, mark and eve say came between the couple was rod s dramatic mood swings. rod has and always has a violent explosive temp iter. he could be sitting very calmly in the chair and something could set him off and in seconds, he ll literally explode. shele also complained about his obsession with back gamon. did he ever say why? i think he forged relationships in the bakeapple monocommunity. i said you ve got a family. the covlin s saw changes in shele, ones they thought was equally damaging to the marriage. she started going to the friars club from once a week, it became much more frequent than that. the couple seemed to be living separate lives in what had to be a painful moment. shele told her sister it wasn t the backgammon or the fact that rod wasn t pulling his weight that pushed her to separate. it was rod s cheating. she believes he left an e- mail up, so she would purposely see it from another woman. and she confronted him and he said that yes, he s sleeping around with other women, and he wants an open marriage. he still loves her and wants an open marriage. most women don t want to go along with the open marriage concept. right. she was one of those who said absolutely no. by june, rod had moved out, and he didn t go far. shele arranged for him to live for free in an apartment across the hall to make it easy for the kids. her close friend, stephanie goldman, wasn t happy with the arrangement. when shele told me he was going to be living across the hall, my first instinct was my goodness, i don t think this is a good idea. nevertheless shele was moving on, and so was rod. he was very charming, intelligent, funny, in a quirky sort of way. i really enjoyed playing backgammon with him. deborah met rod at a backgammon tournament. months later their relationship became romantic. i wasn t looking for any sort of a relationship. and he was, you know, pretty aggressive. i m considerably older than rod. and so it never occurred to me that he would be interested in me in that way. so it surprised you? it surprised me. and of course, it made me feel good, a younger man, being attracted to me. meanwhile shele was working with divorce attorney lance meyer. we talked about all the problems she was having with her husband and the concern she had about herself, her children, and she was really trying to figure out the best way to go about proceeding with a divorce case. by fall she was dipping her toe in the dating pool again. she was on jay date, she had met some gentleman. j date, the jewish dating website? yeah, yeah. shele seemed on track to make a fresh start in 2010 until that fresh start ended in with a seemed like a deadly accident. when i heard she slipped and fell in the tub, my initial reaction was she wouldn t even take a bath. and now shele s friends and family were wondering about the story rod told police that his daughter, anna, called him that morning in a panic and let him into the apartments because he didn t have a key. i was very suspicious. suspicions that only deepened when mark learned the medical examiner wasn t sure either. i m reading the death certificate and i saw the cause of death was undetermined. shele s loved ones aren t the only ones without doubt. coming up. she had bruising to her lip, appeared to have some scratch marks. she had bruising to her right hand. and rod said he had pulled shele s wet body out of the tub, so why wasn t he wet? 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from the moment shele covlin s family heard the story of her death, a slip and fall in a bathtub full of water, they felt it just didn t make sense. htthe moment shele covlin s family heard about the death, they felt it didn t make sense. how do you fall in a bathtub? i started thinking and thought shele takes a bath? she showers, you know. she s not taking a bath. plus shele had gotten a keratin hair straightening treatment the morning. she wasn t suppose to get her hair wet for several days. they say don t wash your hair for 72 hours. not even go to the gym. it had is the legally blonde moment that any woman who knows about a keratin treatment is not going to expose your hair like that. her death did not sit right with lead detective either. while she felt her death could have been an accident, details at the scene bothered him. the way that cabinet door had been yanked down. the blood in the tub, and marks on shele s body. she had bruising to her lip, appeared to have some scratch marks, and she had bruising to her right hand. what the detective would learn later cast suspicion on rod. rod told an officer he had to pull her wet body out of the tub, yet his clothes were bone dry. and then new york post reporter rebecca rosenberg. two officers found this unusual and noted this. how did you not get wet? he wasn t wet at all and it wasn t consistent with the story he had told. and their doorman remember rod doing something early that morning that was highly unusual for him. he stopped by the front desk to get a snack, even bought the doorman a snickers bar. the doorman thought it was weird because rod covlin usually wasn t chatty in all the years he had been there and never offered to bring him anything back. suspicious details indeed. the detective was hoping more clues would emerge from an autopsy, but remember, shele s family didn t have one done for religious reasons. if that is what the family wanted. you want to try to help the family as best as you can. there wasn t much he could do and her family hired a private investigator. so you re not satisfied? not at all. he started talking to friends of shele s. we had a flood of information that was extremely suspicious. people were telling us things that were very worrying. including things that confirmed what the family had seen for themselves. shele s divorce attorney, lance meyer. he would belittle her, call her ugly, he would make fun of her looks, so he was a demeaning person, and he would go low. so low, in fact, that at one point during their divorce, rod tried to undermine her at work. he called her company to report she was on drugs, unstable, and depleting their joint bank account. he was trying to get her to lose her job and it was obviously, she worked in a family operation within ubs, so it was a very serious thing, trying to part her and her family. the company determined shele was drug free and found that rod was taking much more money from their account than she was. the divorce got uglier. the two squabbled over child support. at one point a judge told rod he could no longer play backgammon. something he blamed on shele. she was taking away the thing he cared about the most. and her family took their private investigator over to her apartment to check out the scene. something caught their eye. the cabinet she supposedly grabbed, the screws had been pulled out of the wall. he thought that would have talken more force. it would have taken a lot of strength to pull the door off. something shele wouldn t be able to do? most likely. no doubt in your mind this is a staged accident? we believe it was a staged accident. but none of this was the smoking gun. the only way to know for sure was to do an autopsy. two months after her death at the family s urging, her body was pulled out of the grave and re-examined. detective was in the room with the medical examiner. what are you seeing and thinking? near the end of it, he looked at us and showed us the bone that it was broken. that s in the neck? inside the neck area. he said it will be a homicide. wow. and shele had been choked to death. coming up. the question was never is he going to kill shele? the question is always when. what do they have going for them with this jury? covlin had access. he was right across the hall. he had motive. and he is not a sympathetic guy. a trial of lies, secrets, and surprises. so this is getting ugly? yes. when dateline continues. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. nexgard® plus helps you protect your dog from fleas, ticks, heartworm disease, and more. all in one delicious, monthly, soft chew. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard® plus: the one you want for one-and-done protection. with powerful, easy-to-use tools, power e trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won t miss an opportunity. e trade from morgan stanley nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. i m richard lu with a news update. benny gantz is resigning from his post. he says netanyahu s real war to the victory of gaza. and president trump is set to virtually meet with a probation officer today. it comes a little over a week after his conviction on 34 felony counts in his historic hush money trial. trump s sentencing is set for july 11. now back to dateline. m andrea. two months after shele covlin died welcome back to dateline. i m andrea canning. two months after shele covlin died after suspicious circumstances, her family urged investigators to exhume her body and perform an autopsy. the medical examiner s chilling conclusion, shele was strangled to death. and then the investigation stalled and shele s loved ones feared the case would go unsolved, but they did not know even years later, authorities would have no intention of letting that happen. back now to endgame. shele covlin had been found dead in her bathtub in december of 2009. investigators long believe her husband, rod, killed her, but they didn t have enough evidence to prove it. after nearly six years of slowly building a case, prosecutors timely became convinced they had enough to persuade a jury. in november of 2015, shele s sister, eve, got word from the district attorney s office. she said we re about to arrest rod covlin for the murder of shele covlin. so i started to get very emotional. she says to me are you okay? i said i ve been waiting a really long time to hear those words. it would take three more years for rod s trial to begin. the people of the state of new york. and after waiting so long for justice, eve and her husband, mark, steeled themselves. why was it important for you to be there? so i can tell you on december 31, i said i m not leaving until they take shele s body out. when it comes to the trial, i said i will be there every single day, so she knows that i m there for her along with the rest of the family. there s only one person. reporter: prosecutor described rod covlin as a cold- blooded killer, determined to get his wife out of his life. take their children and seize her assets at any cost. and only one person had the motive, the opportunity, and the means to have done this. prosecutors admitted their case wasn t a tidy one ready for csi, but they put a lot of sir circumstantial evidence. he was across the hall and he s not a sympathetic guy. prosecutors presented witnesses who said rod didn t even try to hide his abuse of his wife. the family nanny told the jury at one point he had become enraged and violent. he said to me, rod threw her down on the floor. and when he asked her to go into the bedroom, she said she was scared of going in there with him because she doesn t know what he ll do. the prosecutor described shele as a textbook victim of domestic abuse. the question was never is he going to kill shele. the question is always when? shele was living in fear, prosecutors said, because her estranged husband was boiling with rage in their custody battle. shele s divorce attorney, lance meyer, took the stand to say how rod had even used his son as a weapon. mr. covlin took the children and accused shele of abusing miles. it turns out that he took them to the hospital and made allegations that shele had sexually abused their son. wow, so this is getting ugly? yes. prosecutors said those disturbing and false accusations were just one example of how rod was becoming unhinged. he was also obsessively tracking shele s every move with secretly installed software on her computer. rod told this coworker that it enabled him to read her e- mails. he was reading and he was upset with the number of people that she was talking to, and he was upset about the way he was being portrayed in her e-mails. by late 2009, he was also deeply in debt with virtually no income. still even with their divorce pending, he believed he would gain control of her $5 million estate if she died. but then rod found some e-mails shele sent just two days before her death. she reaches out to an attorney and also tells several people she wants to change her will and essentially write rod covlin out of the will. that s when rod snapped and hatched his plan. the night of december 30, her friend, melissa fields, saw her and sensed something was wrong. shele was nervous when we first met up and she was looking around quite a bit. i did ask her what the problem, if something was wrong. she was worried that her ex- husband was following her. on what would turn out to be her last night alive, shele remained in fear. it was all heavy on her mind when she got home to her apartment that night at 7:51, caught here on security cameras. later she log on to her online dating profile at 10:13. the last activity on any of her devices. rod, meanwhile, was across the hall. he was usually online playing backgammon late until the night, but suddenly his online presence stopped at 1:03 a.m. no sign of him until he popped up on the surveillance video in the lobby at 4:13 a.m. the allegation was that he wanted to be seen on camera. he wanted to make an alibi that this is a way of building an alibi. the prosecution called the new york state medical examiner. in the autopsy, he had noticed those scratches on her face. and that fractured bone in her neck. my conclusion was that she had died at the result of neck compression and i classified her death as a homicide. strangulation, not an accidental fall. in another sinister twist, prosecutors believe three and a half years after shele s death, rod drafted a note composed of his 12-year-old daughter s e- mail account pretending to be her. it read, i lied. she didn t just slip. i got so mad, so i pushed her. i didn t mean to hurt her, i swear. it was never sent, but it did hit the tabloids after it was filed with the court. what father does that? 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yes. in the trial of rod covlin, the closer turned out to be none other than deborah oles, his backgammon buddy and former lover. taking the stand, sunglasses on. what was it like walking into that courtroom and seeing rod covlin in there? terrifying. i had to look at him one time, once, and just to point him out and say that s who he is. deborah testified she got a late night call from rod on that fateful new year s day. he told me his wife had an accident, and died. my very first thought was that is a really weird coincidence in timing and that basically solves all of his problems. but then i felt guilty thinking about it because the paper said it was an accident. he said it was an accident. like he needed money? right. they ve broken up and then she dies? so it makes rod s life easier? right. then he was very adamant about his innocence, always. and after that, their long distance relationship progressed in fits and starts. they would often play backgammon online. deborah would drive from her home down south to tournaments, sometimes picking up rod in new york and taking him with her. and then one day in 2010, the police paid her a surprise visit. i answered all their questions, and i offered to give them a copy of the games that he would play, so they would have exact times we played and that was it. they thought he was guilty and said he was a very bad person. i didn t believe him at that time and i never saw the monster that i came to know until later. but the monster was lurking. she began to see how volatile rod could be. he had a temper that did not take much to set him off. she also saw terrible fights that he would have with his parents. by 2012, rod and his children were living with his parents in a new york city suburb and the fighting was constant. rod brought his arms back and shoved his father. his father went flying into the room, hit his head on the floor. eventually his parents evicted him. deborah said he hatched bizarre plots to kill his parents. she told the court about one he dreamt up when super storm sandy struck the east coast. he said that because there was no electricity, the alarms would not be on. he wanted to go through a window in the basement, kill his parents, and set his house on fire. i was just stunned. he was going to he wanted to go over there, kill his parents, set fire to the house, and somehow get his kids out safely. and you know, i discussed it with him for 15 minutes and i m like no, you re not going to do this. and then finally i said just how are you going to explain miraculously that you just happened to be there to save your children and finally, you know. he finally backed down. she said the poison plot that called for anna to participate. he wanted her to put rat poisoning in their food or sugar. how am i suppose to protect his parents if i don t know what he s plotting, you know? i can t be there and protect them if i m not there he won t let me know what s going on. you re helping the situation, being the voice of reason for rod? either try to talk him out of it or have enough proof to go to the police. by this time, deborah rented an apartment for herself and rod to live in north of new york city. but she was growing wary of his anger, exacerbated by his lured schemes. one day she testified things came to ahead. we were in the car driving, and he said to me, you have to help me kill my parents, and i said i m not going to help you kill your parents. he asked me like four, five times. finally i said i m not going to help you kill your parents. even if i wanted to, which i don t, you kill me too. and he had a creepy laugh. and he looked at me in a way like oh, you re just now figuring this out. and he said, no, i only want to kill the people who try to take my children away from me. did you believe now that rod killed shele? there was no question of doubt that he killed her at that point. finally rod and deborah split. in august of 2014, she called investigators and told them everything she knew. and now she told a jury and she was about to get grilled by rod covlin s defense attorneys. coming up. so is it fair to say, yes or no, you weren t jealous? no. i was mad at him. i was mad at him for a lot of reasons. questions and after nine years, an answer. charging the defendant, roderick covlin with the crime of murder in the second degree. how hard was it waiting for the verdict? oh my gosh, that was so painful. i had such butterflies. when dateline continues. but this is my story. 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[ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg s moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don s paying so much for at&t, he s been waiting to update his equipment! there s a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don t have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. andrea canning: welcome back. the prosecution s case against rod covlin ended with a bombshell. on the stand, his former lover, debra, welcome back. the prosecution s case against rod covlin ended with a bomb shell. on the stand, his former lover, deborah, described in chilling detail how after his wife, shele died, rod planned to kill his parents in order to regain custody of his children. his alleged targets were in the courtroom, hanging on every word. and now the defense was about to dissect deborah s story. here is the conclusion of endgame. carol covlin sat behind her son during the long weeks of trial. why was it important for you to be there? he s my son. i think any mother would do that for their child. you had to listen to your son being called a bum and abuser and a killer. how did you handle that? you want to call them liars, but you can t. and alleging that rod had wanted to kill you. and we are talking about arsenic, rat poisoning. reporter: deborah s claims were laughable. the alleged murder plots are a farce. and he tried to poke holes in deborah s testimony, starting with the stories of the plots. were you scared? yes. did you call the police? yes or no, did you call the police? no. he said deborah s stories of rod s temper didn t add up either. time and time again when she s saying he felt bullied by rod, she was afraid of him. the only thing she ever says in her e-mails is i love you. dear, i love you over and over again. despite her denials, gottlieb said deborah was crushed when their relationship ended. is it fair to say yes or no, you weren t jealous? no. i was mad at him. i was mad at him for a lot of reasons. and is it fair to say you have a history and admitted to being a habitual liar? that is disgusting and false. that is not true. the defense conceited rod wasn t always a stand up guy, but he said that didn t make him a murderer. you may despise him. you may not even be able to look at him. you may want to convict him to convict somebody of murder. there has got to be proof. there was none. zero evidence. no signs of a struggle. he said rod couldn t have slipped into her apartment and killed her like they argumented because there was no evidence he had a key. remember, rod said little anna let him in that morning. there has been no evidence he was ever in the apartment on december 30 or december 31 before 7:00 a.m. no evidence either they said about what had caused her injuries. they used back hose to exhume. they used shovels to get to the coffin. carol said there was nothing she heard in court to convince her shele s death was a tragic accident. when you see the photos, it doesn t look like she slipped and fell. not really if you look at her face, if she slipped and fell and hit her face. where did her scratches come from then? i mean you don t get scratches by falling in the bathtub. i have no idea. i just, you know, again, you re left with a conundrum. a conundrum that would never be solved because of bungling by investigators. and you did not have any of those interviews on december 31, correct? not that i recall, sir. investigators had not dusted for fingerprints or collected dna samples. there was a long list of what investigators hadn t done at the scene. every single viewer would know that that s not the way you investigate a suspicious scene if there is a remote possibility that it could be a homicide. it was disgraceful. in a bold move, the defense rested without calling any witnesses. after more tan eight weeks, it was up to the jury to decide. was this an accident or a cold- blooded murder? how hard was it waiting for the verdict? oh my gosh, that was so painful. i had such butterflies. that was bad. they didn t have to wait long. after only a day of deliberations, the jury was back. charging the defendant, roderick covlin with the crime of murder in the second degree, guilty or not guilty? guilty. do you want to pull the jurors? guilty. i have been through a lot of trials and i don t know if i have ever seen that many tears and hugs and it was incredible to watch your family. it wasn t a moment of celebration, but a moment of relief for fear of what would have been if the wrong verdict came down. outside the courthouse, family and friends gathered. after all this time, they felt like they could breathe again. the first thing i thought was this is just for shele and she can finally rest. deborah hopes she can rest now too. the prosecution star witness is happy the jury believed her. it was like a huge weight has been lifted off of me, and i m finally like completely, you know, it s done. do you regret the day you met rod covlin? i do. i red light do. one of his biggest supporters is his daughter, anna. both children live with rod s parents. how are the children doing? they re holding it together as best they could. shele s children are growing up without much contact with shele s side of the family. is there anything that you want the children to know about their mother and how you feel about them? their mother with every breath she took and every ounce of her, she adored them. that s all for this edition of dateline. i m andrea canning. thank you for watching. i m craig melvin and this is dateline. something is wrong here. the system doesn t want to acknowledge that they made a mistake, but you made a mistake. the detective was like you tell us you did this?
the superpowers, where are we heading now? scratch away at the surface of european sentiment, european sensibility, what you find is anxiety about peace and security. south africa has punished its ruling party for 30 years of failing government. but how does the chastened anc now select partners for the way forward? it is highly expected that the african national congress will come up with a coalition, even though it will be uneasy, but one that will be manageable. and immigration the great issue in so many of the 60 plus elections which are taking place around the world this year how does it affect us? we live in a much more globalised world. it s easier to travel. that has, you know, created movements of people around the planet which are presenting real challenges for governments. newsreel: the allied invasion of europe from the west - is launched d day. the start of d day 80 years ago was heralded by the broadcast of a couple of lines from a verlaine poem, ordering a particular french resistance circuit to start blowing up railway lines. very soon, british, american, canadian, free french and other troops stormed ashore to start the recapture of europe from the nazis. this anniversary seems like a good moment to look at where our world is today. the west in visible decline, russia fighting a war of aggression in europe, china stamping out ideological opposition wherever it can. rightly or wrongly, there s starting to be a kind of pre war feeling about our times. allan little is the bbc s special correspondent. he s reported on many of the major events of the past 35 years. i think we re definitely in a period of anxiety and fear, and i think the change of policy in russia in february 2022 realigned the world. you and i lived through the revolutions of 1989, which saw the reunification of europe. so, the period of peace that we ve enjoyed over the last 80 years is certainly more fragile than it s been at any time during our lives, john. donald tusk of poland, for instance, the british defence secretary, grant shapps, and plenty of others talking about no longer being in a post war world but in a pre war world. the threat of a resurgent, imperialist russia is very real. the collapse of the westernising, democratising experiment in post soviet russia amounted to one question what are the political consequences of this degree of destitution and humiliation that the russians were experiencing in the late 1990s? we knew what russia was in transition from. we didn t yet know what russia was in transition to. well, we know the answer now. the answer is that russia reverted to type, if you like. undeeradimir putin, it became authoritarian, dictatorial, and it s allied with changes in china and changes in iran and elsewhere. so, the world is reordering itself in quite a menacing way. do you feel that the 80th anniversary of the d day landings, which is where all of this started, we re now shifting to deep nervousness, instead ofjust patting ourselves on the back, as we have on most d day anniversaries? with the 80th anniversary, we ve lost the living testimony. there s now almost nobody left alive. and i think it s very important to remember notjust what they did in 191m and 1945, but the kind of europe they came home to build after the war. and they wanted a europe that would turn the page on centuries of division in europe. france and germany had gone to war with each other something like four times in the previous century. in 1945, they wanted to build a europe where that wasn t possible any more. where are we, say, in comparison with the past? this is a period of huge anxiety. i feel anxiety myself. you and i have seen war up close. we ve seen genocide up close. we know what it looks like. we know what it sounds like. we know what it smells like. and ifear, in western europe in particular, the danger of complacency. and i think that europe divides on this question as well, between the west and east. one of the things that s happened since 1989 is that eastern europe now, which initially welcomed in 1989, welcomed the westernising process, welcomed being brought into the european union, there is a populist drive in many of these eastern and central european countries against westernisation. they feel that the western model has been imposed upon them, or sufficient numbers of the population feel a western model that they don t recognise, don t feel comfortable with. .. the iconic figure of that position is viktor orban in hungary, who has said himself that he wants a kind of illiberal democracy. seems to me the big danger is complacency, is saying, we re not living in 1913. we re not living in 1938. we might be. can it really be that europe s whole future, everything has turned around because of one man s attitudes, because of vladimir putin solely deciding to invade ukraine and so on? or are there bigger principles behind him? under him, russia reverted to type, if you like, went back to the imperialism and the authoritarianism that had characterised both tsarist russia and communist russia. and so there is an appetite in russia for this kind of. ..self definition, this kind of.this characterisation of the nature of the russian state. and i suspect that what we re doing now is walking along the edge of the razor blade, but that at some stage, we ll get over it. what are you? are you pessimistic or optimistic? i err towards pessimism these days, john. even today, 80 years on, the europeans still think of that moment, that 1944 45 moment, in very, very different terms and still think of the post war decades in which they built the institutions of european democracy. they think about them differently to the british. for the british, it was a transactional. it was about trade. scratch away at the surface of european sentiment, european sensibility, what you find is anxiety about peace and security, rather than trade and the economy. and i think that is rooted in the different experience of the 1940s. south africa has marked the 30th anniversary of majority rule with an election which has cut the african national congress, the party of nelson mandela, down to size. crime, corruption, the failure of basic services, like power and water, have infuriated huge numbers of south africans. even though mk the breakaway party of the man who symbolises corruption for many people, former presidentjacob zuma actually did very well. contrary to expectation, the economic freedom fighters, under their fiery leader, julius malema, faded badly, while the democratic alliance, which runs the western cape and is usually called business friendly, which means it gets the support of most white people, held its position with 21% of the vote but didn t noticeably thrive. so, now the anc has lost its overall majority, president cyril ramaphosa, an instinctive moderate, has to decide which of these groups to form a coalition with. i asked nomsa maseko, the bbc s southern africa correspondent, what she thought about the result. absolutely shocked at the loss of the african national congress but not really surprised because it was expected. people of south africa have grown tired of promises made and not kept. they are tired of high levels of violent crime, unemployment, the rolling blackouts which have crippled the economy, the day to day service delivery issues, like running water, you know, and the collection of rubbish, things like that, even though they are loyal to the anc government because of the history that south africa has in terms of, you know, apartheid. they know and appreciate what the anc and other liberation movements did for them back then. but this is a message by south africans to say that the honeymoon is over for the anc. but surely cyril ramaphosa cannot go into a coalition with jacob zuma or his people? there are people within the executive council of the anc that are saying that cyril ramaphosa, as president of this country and president of the anc, should resign from his position because this is the lowest point that the anc has ever got in, in terms of election results. in the last elections in 2019, the anc got about 57% of the vote, and this time around, they re barely holding on to a 40% majority. how likely is it that cyril ramaphosa can do some kind of deal with another party, or another couple of parties? the democratic alliance, for instance. the anc acknowledges that there will be concessions that they have to make if they want to continue to lead, if cyril ramaphosa is to continue as president of the country. because if not, then the anc will have to sit in the opposition benches and allow the other parties to form a coalition and then govern, which is at this stage highly unlikely. but the democratic alliance has said that it is willing to go into a coalition with the african national congress, but in that there s going to be, you know, clashes in terms of policy and ideology because the democratic alliance is pro israel, the anc is pro palestine, the democratic alliance is also against the policy of black economic empowerment. and that will be a hard pill to swallow for the anc, which is trying with that policy to fix the wrongs of the past. and, of course, the democratic alliance is seen, rightly or wrongly, as being a white run party, isn t it? absolutely. south africans, even though they know that it s been 30 years into democracy, they still have the memories of what it was like not to be in control of their lives, of their economy, of where they go and not go. so there s a lot of misgivings. now, the one name that we haven t mentioned here isjulius malema of the economic freedom fighters. and they did really quite badly, didn t they? they are now officially the fourth, you know, party, biggest party. but, you know, julius malema delivered one of his most modest speeches when he said that he believes that the electorate has decided what they wanted. but also he believes that the economic freedom fighters received the votes of the black middle class. and he believes that they will still be able to continue, you know, to be in the opposition benches, but also there could be a chance that the african national congress itself would want to form a coalition with the economic freedom fighters. will we have a government soon, or in the medium term, or is it going to take for ever? in the next, say, 20 days after these coalition, you know, negotiations have taken place. parliament needs to sit before the end ofjune, and that is where a president is going to have to be appointed. and it is highly expected that the african national congress will come up with a coalition, even though it will be uneasy but one that will be manageable. poor mexico, so far from god and so close to the united states. the rueful words of the 19th century mexican dictator poor mexico, so far from god and so close to the united states. the rueful words of the 19th century mexican dictator porfirio diaz. things have got even worse since then. floods of illegal migrants from all over latin america pass through mexico on their way to the us, and the drugs cartels smuggle immense quantities of synthetic opioids to the huge and growing american market. the drugs trade made this the most violent presidential campaign ever in mexico. 102 political assassinations, as well as kidnappings and attempted murders. and yet in all this, claudia sheinbaum, the former mayor of mexico city and a joint nobel prize winner for her work on climate change, won a landslide victory. the first woman to become mexico s president. she is the protege of the popular outgoing president, andres manuel lopez 0brador, who s known from his initials as amlo. but can claudia sheinbaum, even with amlo s support, sort out mexico s problems? and what was the cause of the landslide anyway? i turned to daniel pardo of bbc mundo in mexico city. andres manuel lopez 0brador, the current president who s been in powerfor the last six years. and he s managed to have people happy, really. increasing their salaries, poverty has been reduced from 40% to 36% average. 0bviously, violence is still a problem. insecurity is a huge problem for people. sheinbaum has become or was a very. ..a candidate that gave people the idea that those policies that enlarge their pockets are still going to be in place. that added to the fact that the opposition is fragmented, divided, that they are trying to attack a very popular president who had to deal with the pandemic, still has 60% of people s support that s a huge number for a latin american president. but it does sound from what you say as though amlo, lopez 0brador, will want to keep a foot in politics, will want to control her, if he can. that s the question that everyone s asking at the moment. how is she going to govern? how autonomous is she going to be? their relationship. although they are part of the same movement, they have major differences. it s not only about their background, they come from different sort of lefts because amlo is part of this old left in mexico that s very rooted in the revolution, that is very nationalist. it s very traditional in their economic and especially development ideas. sheinbaum, she s a physicist who went to university. she has got a phd. she s an expert in climate change. she was part of a team who won the nobel prize because of their contribution to climate change studies. she s a woman, right, in a very macho country. and that s why everyone s asking, how is she going to be autonomous and how much is he going to control her? he has said and promised that he s going to retire, that he s going to go to his farm, and he s not going to be involved in politics. this election campaign in particular has been very violent, hasn t it? and there s all the question about the drugs trade with the united states and so on. so, violence is still a major problem. the six years in which amlo was in power were the most violent in history in terms of homicides. and, yes, this campaign killed at least a0 candidates who were running for office in different parts of the country. so, yeah, violence, it is a problem. however, i think most mexicans have got used to it and have realised that that s not a problem that any government, one single government, one single politician, could fix. people are happy because their pockets are filled with money and they re being able to consume as much as they want. this is a very dynamic economy. the choice that americans are going to make in the united states is going to have such an effect on mexico, isn t it? most of mexican foreign policy is regarding the us, either if it s a democrat or a republican. 0bviously, trump did. ..emerge with the different issues, but it wasn t that different, really. i mean, you see the relationship that he had with amlo. it was a very pragmatic relationship. obviously, it s a huge source of income for mexicans. a huge portion of the gdp here in mexico has to do with money that mexicans in the united states send to theirfamilies here in mexico. it s a tricky relationship, but at the end, pragmatism does take place and does make the rule of the relationship, no matter who is in power. big countries have attracted immigrants throughout history. there are always people who want to better themselves financially, and there are always large amounts ofjobs to fill which local people don t want to do. but in the modern world, with wars and the effects of global heating, immigration has become a majorforce for social change. entire cities have been transformed as a result of the hostility which this can create. it has been responsible in many countries for the rise of an angry populism. i asked the bbc home affairs specialist, mark easton, for his views on the changes that immigration has brought to modern society. you have to understand we live in a much more globalised world. it s easier to travel from one place to another, and that has changed things and also our understanding of the world. and i think that has, you know, created movements of people around the planet, which, as you rightly say, are presenting real challenges for governments. there was this extraordinary movement of people back in the noughties, after the expansion of the eu. we saw all the poles come in. suddenly, actually, britain was experiencing immigration in a way it never had before. that, i think, changed the way that a lot of communities felt about immigration. it had not been something they d experienced before. and then i think you should wind the clock on and you get to brexit. and that i think was to a significant extent about communities who felt that they had not been informed about what was going to happen. and, of course, what we ve seen, almost as soon as the ink was dry on the brexit final deal, immigration soared. i mean, notjust soared, john, but went to levels that we have never, ever experienced in this country. if you go back to 2022, we saw three quarters of a million net migration to this country. so, i think given that there is now rising anxiety about, actually, do we have control of our borders? which matters a lot. and are we making the right decisions on when we bring people in? and that leads you into the other bit of all of this, which is what the government calls illegal migration, a term which is contested, i should say, but certainly irregular migration. so, these are people who are. like, for instance, those coming over in small boats or hiding in the back of lorries, and they are coming principally to seek asylum in the united kingdom. that, just to give you some context, represents about 6% of all the migration that we have. so, the rest is legal? the rest is legal. the government has invited those people to come to the uk, has given them a visa and said, in you come. yeah, we ve got a job for you. this is, what, to be nurses? care workers and nurses. doctors? doctors. i mean, i know zimbabwe very well, where nurses are really needed, and doctors. of course. ..and bringing them here to a rich country. notjust the uk, but other european nations, sort of. ..absorbing vast numbers of key workers who are actually required desperately in their countries of origin. now, to some extent, this is about, you know, the freedom of the individual to decide how they want to pursue their career. but equally, i think there is a responsibility on the rich countries to ensure that they re not impoverishing the countries from which these people come. and here is the real rub. if you want to reduce immigration and not have to pay the really significant penalty of not having anyone to care for your ailing grandmother, we re going to have to pay more. and that means that money is going to have to come from somewhere, and it essentially means you cut something else or you put up taxes. and that is the unpalatable reality that we have. ..we have got ourselves in a situation where we are prepared to bring in large numbers of people to do jobs at low rates that local people are not prepared to do. but an awful lot of people are coming in from countries which are just simply poorer. and they want the kind of salaries that are paid in britain, but also in western europe and the us. there is a huge debate, political debate, certainly, about, what is an economic migrant? what is a genuine asylum seeker? where you have conflict, the countries that border that conflict, i m sure you will have been to many of them, are suddenly overwhelmed by huge numbers of refugees. they haven t got the resources. they re often poor countries themselves, trying to deal with these. how do we have a fair, equitable system that means that those countries are not penalised, really, purely by their geography, while rich countries further away can say, nothing to do with us ? mark easton speaking to me here in london. we re getting punch drunk, aren t we, with elections? there s the south african one and the mexican one, which we ve heard about in this programme. the european parliament elections begin this week. and there s the indian one, of course. and injuly, we ll have the british one. nigel farage, who played a big part in persuading britain to vote for brexit in 2016, has thrown a hand grenade into the election campaign here by announcing he was taking over the leadership of the small reform party and would stand for parliament, despite having lost seven parliamentary campaigns over the years. and of course, there s the united states, where the election result could genuinely change the future of the world. lots of media experts think that donald trump s conviction on 3a charges of falsifying his accounts to hide the hush money he paid the porn actress stormy daniels has nudged the pendulum an inch or so injoe biden s favour. but we re likely to have televised debates in which literally anything could happen between two ancient men of 77 and 81. i m just weeks away from turning 80 myself, so i m allowed to say all this. at which point, everyone, everywhere wonders how a country as vast and talented as the us can only turn up a couple of men like biden and trump for the presidency. but that s a story for another day. thank you for being with us for this edition of unspun world. from me and the unspun team, until we meet again, goodbye. hello there. weather for the week ahead is perhaps not the story you want. no significant summer sunshine or warmth, i m afraid. in fact, the story in armagh on sunday really sets the scene just a high of ten degrees. we had cloudy skies with light rain or drizzle with a cool northerly wind as well. now, that rain is sinking its way steadily southwards and it will clear away from eastern england and south east england during monday morning. behind it, this northerly wind and this cooler air source starts to kick in across the country. so a rash of showers, a cold, brisk wind driving those showers in off exposed coasts and drifting their way steadily south across scotland and northern ireland as we go through the morning. here s our cloud and rain still lingering across east yorkshire, lincolnshire first thing in the morning, some heavier bursts that will ease away. best of any brighter skies, perhaps across southern england down to the south west. here, showers should be few and further between. but nevertheless, that wind direction still really digging in right across the country. so sunny spells, scattered showers, a brisk northwesterly wind for many, so temperatures just below par really for this time of year, a maximum of 10 15 degrees for most. we might see highs of 17 or 18 if we get some sunshine across south west england and wales. now, as we move out of monday into tuesday, the low pressure drifts off to scandinavia, high pressure builds. it should start to kill off some of the showers out to the west. but with those clearing skies, well, those temperatures will be below path through the night as well, low single figures for some, quite a chilly start to our tuesday morning. hopefully some sunshine around on tuesday. there will continue to be some showers, most frequent ones running down through central and eastern scotland and england. further west, some brighter skies and once again, highs of 17 degrees, but for many, just a maximum of 10 15 once again. moving out of tuesday into wednesday, winds will fall lighter still for a time, but there s another low pushing in and that will bring some wetter weather to close out the end of the working week. it will gradually start to change the wind direction. so, after a drier day on wednesday, it will turn that little bit milder, but also wetter as we head into the weekend. this live from washington, this is bbc news. emmanuel macron calls for a snap election after his alliance is defeated by the far right european parliament vote. elsewhere in the elections, voters snub the governing parties of germany, spain and belgium, the prime minister of italy and poland had cause to celebrate. benny gantz quits and demands an election. he calls for benjamin netanyahu to hold an election. hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. france is going to the polls again. the country s president, emmanuel macron, called a snap parliamentary vote sunday night after his centrist alliance was trounced by the far right in european parliament elections. in a speech after exit polls were released, he said he could not ignore the results and the dissolving parliament is an act of trust in the french people. translation: the rise - of nationalists and demagogues is a danger for our nation but also for europe, is a danger for our nation but also for our europe, for france s position in europe and in the world. and i say this even though we have just celebrated with the whole world the normandy landing, and as in a few weeks we will welcome the world for the olympic and paralympic games. yes, the far right is both the result of the impoverishment of the french and the downgrading of our country, so at the end of this day, i cannot act as if nothing has happened.
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[siren blaring] police officer: i need traffic stopped, southbound 10. steve pyne: fire has been on earth as long as plants have been on land. police officer: follow me! follow me! steve pyne: but we get a big shift when a species arrives who can start fire at will. police officer: go, go, go, go! go south! steve pyne: i think humans have been changing the earth for a long time. police officer: come down this way! come down this way! steve pyne: we ve lost the ability to understand how fire works and how it can be used to our advantage. police officer: [indistinct] the fire has jumped the road. this is bad. steve pyne: we ve mismanaged fire. now we get fires that are really off the scale, shouldn t be here, shouldn t be behaving in this way. and now we re left with these monsters. and it is remaking the world. police officer: (voice breaking) it s all bad up here, brother. it s all bad. oh, my god. [thunder crackling] welcome to violent earth. i m liev schreiber. scientists say wildfires are more frequent and burning bigger. in the past, a 50,000 or 60,000 acre fire was considered big. these days, firefighters are often dealing with fires well above 100,000 acres. according to government statistics, during the 1990s, an average of 3 million acres a year burned in the united states. since 2000, that number has more than doubled. in 2020 alone, over 10 million acres were consumed. the experts say 85% to 90% of wildfires are caused by human activity. tonight, violent earth takes a look at this roaring force of nature, starting with the mega fire that burned through paradise, california, in 2018. [police radio chatter] kory honea: the camp fire was the deadliest and most destructive fire in california s history. [shouting] john messina: it was almost 200 days since we had received any rainfall in that particular area. the wind was very dry and blowing in gusts of 70 miles an hour. kory honea: the town of paradise at the time of the camp fire was about 26,000 people. alexander maranghides: a town built in the forest. there was a lot of vegetation, topography, wind, drought. all these things contributed to make this event unfold very rapidly. police officer: go double lanes! go double lanes! and very catastrophically. kory honea: the fire was caused by a downed electrical transmission line. camp creek road was the nearest named road to the ignition. and that s why this is the camp fire. tamra fisher: oh, this is horrible. oh, my gosh. oh, my gosh. these poor people. i ve lived in paradise since 1979. i prepared for years for this exact moment. i knew fire was was bad. i ve always respected it. tamra is my little sister. she s raw, and she s funny. this, too, could be you. tamra was not as concerned about the wildfires as i was. and that morning, i got out of there pretty fast. tamra texted me and asked me what was happening. and i said, get out, t. get out. paradise is going to burn down. but possibly, the cell towers were starting to burn in that area. i don t believe she got my text. tamra fisher: can we please get out of here? larry laczko: tamra had her three dogs in the car with her. tamra fisher: it s 9 o clock in the morning. larry laczko: she was recording the events on her cell phone. tamra fisher: i m really scared. and i don t got that much gas! she was stressed that she was not making progress getting away from the fire. tamra fisher: come on! just go! i m so scared! [honking horn] todd abel: these fires, it s very, very intense heat. ignite a tree without flame touching it. all at once, the tree lights up sort of like a roman candle. paul hessburg: and when a wildfire is really moving fast, it can burn five to 10 football fields in a second. it s millions of hot embers that can find so many places to ignite a fire. sometimes the winds are so strong that they are tossed up to five miles. brad elder: the drier it is outside, the probability of that ember is going to stay lit and the fuel that it lands in is approaching 100%. [police radio chatter] paul hessburg: paradise, california, burned from an ember attack from a plume miles away from paradise. kory honea: this is, like, 9 o clock in the morning, and it s pitch black. given the smoke, it almost appeared as though it was the middle of the night and it was snowing. ash and embers began to rain down. john messina: the fire was moving at a football field per second. and the way it did that, of course, was by jumping ahead and starting these fires. they would immediately take hold and rapidly grow into a 100-acre, 200-acre spot fire. that was happening all through town. alexander maranghides: that resulted in the town starting to burn all at once. 30,000 people were trying to be evacuated while being overran by fire. police officer: go forward and turn around. turn around and go north. turn around and go north. [bleep] this is bad. larry laczko: a firefighter told tamra to follow him down pearson road. cindy christensen: tamra was behind them. but the traffic stopped. tamra fisher: no! [honking horn] larry laczko: everything around her was burning. tamra fisher: look at that. cars on the side burning. and nobody was moving. tamra fisher: go! it s so hot. todd abel: these fires, they can be well over 2,000 degrees. they melt metal. they melt cars. and you can hear her dogs panting in the back. [dogs whimpering] tamra fisher: ugh! and her despair. tamra fisher: what did i do? come on! paul hessburg: the increase in wildfires in the current 21st century is exponential. california is seeing its worst year ever for wildfires. canada in general right now for this fire season. 33.8 million acres have already burned. brad elder: and we generally think of fire as bad because most wildfires are dangerous. mark finney: but it s very important to try to understand really the essential role that fire has in our ecosystems and the beneficial role. steve pyne: fire is not some kind of alien visitation on the landscape. fire has been on earth as long as plants have been on land. we can go back 420 million years and find fossil charcoal. these landscapes have, in a sense, co-evolved with fire. kristen honig: fires are good for the planet. they have lots of roles in ecosystem health. brad elder: there s so many different plants and animals that respond positively to fires. paul hessburg: the varied habitats come from the byproducts of a wildfire. the forests of western north america, including the western united states, need fire. they evolved with fire. what is new is the frequency of very large fires is increasing. steve pyne: it kills people, threatens properties and towns. they re essentially uncontrollable at scale. paul hessburg: wildfires are burning at the rate of 7 to 10 million acres of the us every year. this is unprecedented. it s getting worse. paul hessburg: we expect double to triple the amount of area burned between now and 2050. well, how did that happen? [music playing] [siren blaring, police radio chatter] karen davis: i was a registered nurse at feather river hospital in paradise. we received a code black get patients out now. and the flames were unbelievable that came up the canyon. my best friend, nichole, was also a nurse at feather river hospital. we worked together. karen davis: ambulances were not able to get to us. patients had to be put in employee vehicles. dispatcher: 10-4, chief, go ahead. karen davis: after we got all the patients in vehicles, nichole and i left following each other. steve pyne: 1910 was really the founding year for the american way of firefighting. reporter: the big blowup. a wild surging firestorm started near elk city, idaho. paul hessburg: the 1910 big burn. it burned 3 million acres across three states, killed 87 people, mostly firefighters. and our awareness and our whole consciousness about fire pivoted in that moment. reporter: this is a picture of tragedy, a tragedy that happens year after year in our great american forest areas fire. fire became public enemy number one. and wildfires were to be put out at all cost. steve pyne: and at that point, we almost militarized firefighting. kyle dickman: we were really good at it. firefighters could put out 99% of fires before they grew bigger than an acre. paul hessburg: and from about 1935 to about 1985, you see not much fire burning. and it made our fire suppression look great. steve pyne: and that was a very poor judgment. well, they completely misjudged the character of the overall fire scene. paul hessburg: what s happened since the exclusion of fire is forests have gotten denser. the forests of today look nothing like they did in the 1930s. there are 10 times even more trees than that on the landscape of the historical condition. and they will burn bigger and they ll burn hotter than they burned historically. and what we didn t know in those days and we ve learned later through research is, fire is medicine on the landscape, and it s how we can live safely. and here s why that s so critical. it was the frequency of the small- and medium-sized fires that blocked the flow of very large fires. you might burn out a patch in a forest, but the bulk of the force is still standing there. mark finney: fires that just burn underneath the trees, maybe some grass, maybe some downed logs. paul hessburg: so there s power in the patchwork to regulate how big and how severe the fires got. so fires would be rarely very large. so after a century and a half without fire, fuels have built up over many large areas to powder keg conditions. but the worst part of it is, we re actually building homes in the middle of this mess. and so when we get a large fire, houses and forests literally go up in smoke. and as the climate continues to turn up the heat and dry out the landscape, what we see after 85 is that area burned increases exponentially. and it continues to increase today. fires like paradise, the camp fire. alexander maranghides: the town of paradise had not seen any fire history in the past 100-plus years. paul hessburg: they re setting new records for area burned and structures that are burned. and it s because the fires are literally uncontrollable. police officer: i copy that. [honking horn] tamra fisher: i m scared! cindy christensen: tamra was beating on her horn, screaming to go, go, go, go. tamra fisher: come on! cindy christensen: nothing was moving. larry laczko: tamra was driving a yellow volkswagen beetle. somebody shot a video from behind her showing her out of her volkswagen. that firestorm came roaring through. it was unreal. her car was on fire. she was screaming for help. tamra fisher: help! cindy christensen: tamra was on pearson road. alexander maranghides: pearson is one of the top five worst situations in all of camp fire. the fire overtakes evacuating, gridlocked traffic. everything is on fire all at once. vehicles start catching on fire. 40 abandoned vehicles in that 6/10 of a mile. and this created a very, very dangerous situation. nichole s car was trapped with me right on pearson road. nichole jolly: that tree could come down on me at any moment. this is ridiculous. and i m stuck. [bleep] tamra fisher: oh, my god. it s everywhere. in tamra s video, you could see my white truck, and you can see nichole s silver sedan. people just sitting there. nothing was moving. tamra fisher: this is a [bleep] nightmare. just come on! oh, my god. karen davis: all of a sudden, i could feel my truck drop, which meant my tires were burning. and right in the middle of that, i heard a knock on the window. nichole got out of her car because her car had caught on fire. she tried to open the door, but the handles were gone from the outside. they had melted away. so she ran off. i had no idea where she was. [music playing] craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office. 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call them firenadoes, will happen as a consequence of these phenomenal surface wind speeds. woman: oh, my they move incredibly fast when they get up and go. and they re really quite horrific. mark finney: wildfires ignite from lots of different sources. steve pyne: before humans were around, this was almost always lightning. volcanic activity can start fires. that s a natural ignition, we often call it. steve pyne: humans probably account for 90% of the ignition in the united states and probably around the world. reporter: investigators say a wildfire near yosemite national park was started by an unattended campfire. reporter: power lines were blamed for starting 10 fires this year. violent and explosive wildfires in hawaii fueled by strong winds from a hurricane 800 miles away. reporter: maui locals have never seen anything like the firestorm that obliterated lahaina. winds of up to 80 miles an hour. erin burnett: tee dang was on vacation with her family. the flames so dangerously close that they were forced to jump into the ocean to save themselves. tee dang: it was just like a hot oven fire flaming, blowing at us. and then we started just huddling in and trying to keep our family tight so we won t get burned from the fire and then get washed away from the water. reporter: the lahaina fire is now the deadliest fire in the us in more than a century. reporter: this will rank as one of the worst disasters in american history. it s as bad as paradise, california, the deadliest fire from a few years back. larry laczko: that morning, when i turned on pearson road, i hit gridlock. we were just inching along when i came upon tamra and her burning vw beetle on the side of the road. she just opened her door. i heard tamra say, i need help putting out this fire. i told her, you need to get into my truck. but she seemed like she wanted to stay with the car. i know she had some treasured belongings. but she had to get away from that. tamra fisher: i m sorry, lucky. i m crying. karen davis: nichole got out of her car because her car was on fire. she knocked on my window. and she tried to open the door, but couldn t. so she ran off. i was dazed from the smoke. and i didn t know where she went. everybody was in a panic, just trying to survive. larry laczko: i did witness people running to a cal fire fire engine. we couldn t believe that they were outside. the temperature inside the engine at that point was probably around 150, 160 degrees. at some point, the outside of the engine probably took temperatures of 600 degrees. we started pulling people into the engine, as many as we could. but we just didn t have any more room. larry laczko: we were still trying to inch along. tamra fisher: [indistinct speech] [crying] and suddenly, out of the darkness came the headlights of a bulldozer driven by a cal fire hero, pushing burning vehicles off the side of the road beside us. john jessen: joe kennedy, he was able to get those cars out of our way and be able to open up that road and give us a means of escape. alexander maranghides: the dozer comes in, helps clear the area, and enables the first responders to escort the convoy out of harm s way. karen davis: that eventually saved our lives. i did wonder what happened to nichole. i remember it was so hot, my eyes and my throat were burning. i ran up the road. and i m closing my eyes because you can t see anything. and i touched the back of this fire engine. the firefighters looked at me, and they were like, oh my gosh. karen davis: and i later learned nichole was one of the people that ran into the fire engine. nichole jolly: the firefighters absolutely saved our lives. i waited all day for tamra. i didn t hear anything. i was so scared. if i wouldn t have had my dogs, i probably would have ran on foot. having larry open the truck door and tell me to get in and then said, bring the dogs, it was like a knight in shining armor. i got a text from somebody i didn t know, this gentleman, larry. i found out that he had saved tamra. i feel that i was in the wrong place at the right time. tamra fisher: oh, my god. karen davis: and when we finally did get through, it was like an apocalypse. tamra fisher: oh, my gosh. it s like you re seeing this destruction that you only see in, like, movies. it s gone. larry laczko: it s gone. tamra fisher: it s gone. look, that house is gone. larry laczko: yep. tamra fisher: and that house is gone. and to see that devastation, it was surreal. yeah, my sister s just right up here. it s all gone. cindy christensen: our neighborhood, our house, there was nothing left. nothing. it was decimated. we lost everything, except for the clothes on our backs. nichole holly: the flames engulfed the hospital, and the roof collapsed. kory honea: it consumed 18,000 structures. 15,000 of those structures were homes, places where people lived. karen davis: and i learned. the next road up from where we were trapped, that s where five people died trying to run from the flames. 85 people lost their lives. there s nowhere you can go in butte county where you don t run into somebody who was burned out of their home or knew somebody who perished in the fire. todd abel: all over the western united states, these fires are more intense. wildland firefighters are a big part of trying to mitigate these natural disasters. hotshots are sort of a breed of their own. kyle dickman: hotshot firefighters are crews of 20 people, men and women. desiree steed: they fight fire from the frontlines. kyle dickman: their job is to go anywhere in the country where there s a bad fire. and they ll spend as long as two weeks or three weeks on a single fire. i m a former granite mountain hotshot. it s really not a job. it s a lifestyle and career. kyle dickman: the granite mountain hotshots were a hotshot crew. came from the city of prescott, arizona. eric marsh was the superintendent of the granite mountain hotshots. a very meticulous man, very intelligent. and then there was jesse steed. desiree steed: jesse was the captain. so he was second in command. prior to that, he was also in the marine corps. he was tough, 6 4 and 220 pounds. always put his family first, his kids first. brendan mcdonough: jesse was a mentor, and he was a dad that i so desperately wanted to be like. desiree steed: he could handle all kinds of excruciating, backbreaking labor and work and actually enjoyed it. [music playing] todd abel: in arizona, june is usually kind of that month where everybody s hair on the back of your neck stands up, and we start getting higher temperatures. the relative humidity drops. the fuel moistures drop. kyle dickman: it was just perfectly primed for extreme fire behavior. todd abel: we start getting monsoon buildups, which sometimes throw out the dry lightning, which starts fires. the morning of june 30, the hotshots on the crew were woken up by a phone call. we got to go. we got a fire in yarnell. a lightning strike from a couple of days ago started multiple fires. it was about 500 acres. the reason this fire was concerning was that it was on a ridgeline above a town. todd abel: there was peeples valley to the north. and then to the south-southeast was the town of yarnell. i remember getting out of the buggy, and jesse was like, hey, grab grab extra water today. it s going to be hot. todd abel: there s different strategies in wildland firefighting. we use fixed-wing airplanes and rotor-wing helicopters to help reduce the intensity of the fire. then we can get our men and women on there, our boots on the ground i call it, to actually finish putting it out. [chainsaw buzzing] john jessen: most effective, especially when fires are larger and stuff, is removing the fuels, creating control lines. kyle dickman: what they re doing is they re taking away what the fire eats so the fire can t burn it. once you get to the edge of the fire, that s when the work really starts. yeah! ow! it s not just the backbreaking work of digging. digging, digging, digging for days on end. kyle dickman: they use chainsaws a lot. brendan mcdonough: you re removing everything for miles on end. so if that tree is 60 feet tall, you re cutting that entire tree down. it s not for the faint of heart. sometimes we do use fire to fight fires. kristen honig: using drip torches to burn the fuel in a controlled fashion so that by the time the main flaming front got there, there would be no more fuel for it to burn. and that would stop the fire s advance. todd abel: a lot of times, we ll do a lot of those firing operations at night, where we have better control over what that looks like. kyle dickman: so june 30, the yarnell hill fire is just ripping to the north. and the priority is to stop this fire on the northern edge. and we start hiking in. we were on the fire s edge. the flaming front was two to three miles long. probably had 20-, 30-foot flame lengths. kyle dickman: jesse steed asked brendan donut mcdonough to act as a lookout down in the valley below the ridgeline. brendan mcdonough: and i hiked into my lookout spot closer towards the active edge of the fire, and i m at a lower elevation. [music playing] i got the word from our fire behavior analyst that called and said, hey, we got some thunderstorm developments developing north of us. kyle dickman: thunderstorms are extremely dangerous to firefighters because they create erratic winds. and erratic winds create erratic fire behavior. todd abel: that s what changes our environment. and that s what causes our injuries and some of our fatalities. kyle dickman: it was a warning to the hotshots that by the afternoon of june 30, they could be dealing with a fire that was completely different than it was behaving in the morning. [music playing] kyle dickman: two things that firefighters pay the most attention to, fuels and weather. paul hessburg: weather is one of the ficklest parts of a wildfire. mark finney: aside from drought or dry conditions, the wind is probably responsible for the greatest variation. another aspect of the wind that makes wildfires dangerous is the shifting direction. the wind can be coming out of the west, for example, and suddenly shift to coming out of the north. todd abel: so thunderstorm developments, it ll push wind multiple directions. [lightning crackling] brad elder: we ve all been standing outside watching a front hit and suddenly get hit by this wall of wind. kyle dickman: what happens with these thunderstorms, they start to rain. brad elder: and that water is now falling, and it s pulling air with it. so we have this rush of air coming down, slamming into the ground and moving out in all directions. wherever that cell is, it could push winds from the north to the south, the south to the north. brad elder: if you don t know that s going to happen or know how it s going to shift, that s a real dangerous situation. [music playing] kyle dickman: june 30, the yarnell hill fire is just ripping to the north. kyle dickman: and the hotshots were down on the southern edge, what s called the heel of the fire, which is essentially where it started. they were just supposed to start building line up around the fire to make sure that it didn t escape. and late in the afternoon thunderstorm hit probably around, i don t know, 4:15-ish. kyle dickman: all this cool air comes rushing down, and it races out across this desert. and it hits the fire. and suddenly, the fire pivots and turns direction. it had been running north. but it turned and ran south. brendan mcdonough: that s pretty uncommon to see a fire completely shift 180 degrees. kyle dickman: and it began running straight at brendan donut mcdonough, the lookout. brendan mcdonough: captain jesse reached out because he could see where i was from up top. and so he called over the radio and said, hey, donut, i think it s about time for you to get out of there, man. move fast. and i did that. got a ride down. and so now this fire has turned around. my brother is on the complete south end, and i am on the north end, opposite ends of this fire. so the granite mountain hotshots were in what s called the blacks. the best safety zone, where fire s already burnt. kyle dickman: all they were doing is watching the burn. they can just look down and see this ominous scene. there s these black smoke. it s dark. and it s just all the colors of hell sweeping down this valley toward this town. [music playing] it became very clear that the town of yarnell was imminently threatened by this fire. we started evacuating yarnell. man: we just pulled out. yarnell is blowing up. kyle dickman: the granite mountain hotshots, they weren t doing a whole lot. they couldn t do a whole lot. so the hotshots decided to leave the safety of the black and move back toward the town of yarnell, where presumably they could do something to help the people that were soon to be threatened by the fire. and they re essentially climbing down these rocky cliffs into that canyon. and when they do, they know they re going to lose sight of the fire. they can t see the fire. and suddenly, the fire turns the corner of this ridge, pivoting and sweeping in front of them, fanning out into this flaming front. at exactly that moment, they realized that they are out of options. todd abel: it was moving so quick that there was no way that a human could outrun that fire. kyle dickman: suddenly, they come over the radio. and what he s saying is, we need help, and we need help right now. they re in trouble. brendan mcdonough: and i remember them trying to call in water. and that s when it became very frantic. kyle dickman: at that moment, nobody really knew where granite mountain was. todd abel: the last conversation i had with them was granite mountain was in the black and that they were in a good spot. no one knew that they had moved to the south end like that. they are forced to do the only thing they can do in that instance, to deploy their fire shelters. fire shelters are just these small, thin blankets that reflect heat. that s all they are. they are tents that you pitch up and you climb into. if you re deploying your fire shelter, it s a last-case scenario. that fire crew s in trouble. they re in trouble. a lot of things going through my brain at the same time of my heart being in my stomach. brendan mcdonough: the helicopter s trying to find them. and it s the smoke is just so thick. bravo 33: operations bravo 33. [music playing] kyle dickman: you have 19 firefighters standing in front of a flaming front. every firefighter on that fire, their jaws dropped and i m sure their hearts broke because they now knew that their brothers, their colleagues were in very real danger. todd abel: we launched some helicopters to try to find them. i absolutely had all kinds of hope that the crew was going to be fine. and i m just waiting on the radio and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. and i hear there s 19 confirmed. there were 19 dead bodies in the canyon. i can feel it in my heart right now and in my stomach right now talking about it. it was devastating. absolutely devastating. i remember just sobbing. every negative emotion that could be felt, i just felt in that moment. i remember walking in, and they re just everybody was crying. and we were told that they were all gone. kyle dickman: and this was the worst fire tragedy that had happened in a generation. todd abel: they were fathers, sons, brothers, husbands, the whole nine yards. they were good people. they enjoyed wildland firefighting. they had the passion for it. the fact that i can tell my children that their father died a hero has made a huge difference. they can be proud of him for everything that he did. kyle dickman: the nation was captivated by it for months. and they ended up making a hollywood movie no matter what you hear we ve got several aircraft coming to you. no matter what s going on we can t go back up there. stay together tell me when you hear the aircraft, ok? and look out for each other because you re a family. no one could be prouder of his boys than i am of you guys. and the fires that we fought when when we were young are nothing like the fires of today. they re really, really dangerous. and they re very, very threatening. todd abel: longer duration, definitely larger fires. how do you manage something like that? paul hessburg: in the western united states, the fire season is 40 to 80 days longer. in california, the fire season is nearly year-round today. steve pyne: the climate is is morphing in ways that enhance fire. it s acting as a performance enhancer. smoke has been carrying the fire problem to areas that otherwise are immune to it. reporter: smoke from those fires traveling more than 500 miles. it s philadelphia, boston, new york city, all the way to the nation s capital. paul hessburg: the air quality index just ballooned in many of these metropolitan areas. more people are being challenged by smoke-related injury to human health. reporter: wildfire smoke contains particulate matter, or pm 2.5. among the tiniest and most dangerous pollutants, it s able to infiltrate the lungs and enter the bloodstream and has been linked to conditions like asthma and heart disease. the need to do something is urgent. we have a lot of tools in the toolbox. one of them is using prescribed burning. prescribed burning is intentional burning to invite the right kind of wildfire back to the forest. there s a tremendous amount of science and skill that go into this prescribed burning. 99.8% of them stay within the line. it produces a tenth of the smoke. so the numbers are really good. steve pyne: some of these areas, we can go in, we can thin. not log, thin out. it s a kind of woody weeding. but it s the fire that matters most. if you do the thinning but don t do the fire, you re not really solving the problem. burning where you ve got residents or small communities embedded in the landscape around, very difficult. but almost certainly, they are going to burn. and if we don t do it in some way, then they re going to burn probably in the worst possible way. kyle dickman: it s like, you can pick your poison, right? like, you re either going to have prescribed fires, or you re going to have more big wildfires. [music playing] steve pyne: well, all this requires a political and social mechanism for us to come together and argue over differences in values, what we want public lands to be, how we want to do it. and we re facing the point where we simply cannot pretend that we can control all these fires as we would wish. [music playing] kyle dickman: we can only do so much to insulate ourselves from those tragedies. like, the way that the system works and the environment is changing, like, these are just they are realities. desiree steed: i want jesse to be remembered for his strength of character. he had a lot of integrity. he was a great dad, a great husband. brendan mcdonough: everyone s journey after the tragedy has been different. there s a lot to learn from it. for me, it s been giving back and, you know, paying it forward and trying to help people understand their sacrifice. karen davis, the nurse who survived the entrapment in the mega fire in paradise, california, says she lost everything in the inferno. battling the trauma from the flames, she decided to move to las vegas to be closer to her daughter and rebuild her shattered life. once there, karen continued her career in health care. she also decided to become a member of the henderson, nevada, community emergency response team, aiming to help others in future emergencies. a testament to her inner strength and resiliency. for more information on what you can do in a wildfire and how to combat the growing climate crisis, please go to cnn.com/violentearth. i m liev schreiber. thanks for watching. good night.
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here sweating like a dog. joey: i feel his pain, he made a big promise, will get rid of taxes for service workers who make tips. a new fox poll showing trump is leading biden in the batter and today trump said if he wins nevada, we will win the whole thing. fox news senior correspondent alicia acuna is live near the las vegas strip, what you got? really good to see you, former president trump when he was in california he raced 33 and half million dollars from private fundraisers, then he came to las vegas and made news when he made this campaign promise. this is the first time i ve said this, for those hotel workers and people to get tips gear going to be very happy. because when i get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips. people making tips. it has been a point of attention for years and years and you do a great job of service, you take care of people. i think it s going to be something that is really deserved. more popular or unpopular i do some unpopular things they do what s right. the culinary union which represents 60000 hospitality workers issued a statement reading relief is definitely needed for tip earners, nevada workers are smart enough to know the difference and real solution while campaign promises from a convicted felon. during his western state swing, trump has also continued to hammer president biden s executive action to curb the number of seeking asylum. or could joe signed an executive order that is pro-invasion, pro-child trafficking, pro-women trafficking, pro-human trafficking and pro-drug dealers, it s a pro drug dealer bill this week, it s ineffective it s not what he believes signed. what he signed means nothing. in fact it makes it easier in my opinion it opens the border further. if joe biden truly wanted to signed an executive order to stop the invasion, right now all he needs to do is say i hereby immediately reinstate every single border policy of a gentleman named donald j trump. from here trump heads back to mar-a-lago. joey: thank you. cheryl, i want to go to this first, trump is leading nevada by five points, that is the smart math, seven-point swing out of the outcome from 2020 where he lost to 48%, there is a big swing and he goes out there today and says listen. i m going to take away the tax on people earning their living through tips, carry cash just so i can tip in cash hopes they don t have the claimant. is that something that will resonate beyond the unions. cheryl: absolutely especially in a place like nevada that s a major service sector area that is tourism, the casinos, the convention center. absolutely that message is going to resonate in a place like that state. if you look at the other cases of the poll that we did, as far as feeling bad about their finances four times as many in the state of nevada say they re falling behind financially, that is 49% falling behind financially, 13% say they re getting ahead whether housing, taxes, the fact that the inflation is hitting them in the pocketbooks, all of those messages at the end of the day resonate not just in that state but across the country it is obvious. joey: seems like they would designate regardless of your partisan lien, more money in your pocket, that seems like a good idea. trump had more things to say about his opponent, not just the border policy was a bad idea that biden just sighed, this is what he had to say about this coming up with the debate were going to have. remember when joe said it s great to be in idaho and he was in iowa, he always does that. if i ever did that that would be over they would say that the end of his political career, he is cognitively impaired. we had a second test, i aced both of them, not easy days. biden should have a cognitive test, number one. they say it s unconstitutional, that s a good excuse. he should have a cognitive test, before the debate in two weeks he should take a drug test because i m willing to take one. joey: what do you think about that charlie? charlie: this is a good reminder of how unpredictable trump is and how entertaining he is on the stump, you know that his decision to announce the thing about tips was not something on his focus group or a ten-point plan that his economic team came up with. he realized the value of it and jumped on it. the fact that the service unions had to put out a statement so quickly is evidence of how effective the plank could be. once again, as we ve seen with a lot of the other unions shows the division between the union s leadership themselves and their members. their members are going to love this, the members don t care what their unions. joey: we say that a lot with republican candidate is especially trump, were there blue-collar work conservatives one of the topics in las vegas was immigration and not every democrat believes or is willing to acknowledge trump s immigration policy was successful, this is what chris coons had to say today. former president trump tried his gimmicks like building a border wall and is now threatening to nationalize and to federalize the national guard and use it to deport tens of millions of people already here in the united states. the difference between trump s approaching biden s approach is one of cruelty versus effectiveness. joey: let s look at this pull, this has 62% of respondents favor trump on the border to where 38 oppose, if you like democrats are off-base on this. molly: president trump, as we were talking about doing things that voters are appealing to like tips and place in las vegas nevada that cares about tourism, woody s going after this particular issue is something a lot of voters are paying attention to, they deeply deeply care about and is across the broad spectrum, what are the challenges the nevada this is for the new york times, to a mr, his weakness with hispanic voters and pessimism over handling the economy and seeing that in that particular state, pretty challenging thing. there has uppity gop nominates since george w. bush, once again this is president trump stepping into an area that isn t traditionally an area where he could win when biden one over two percentage points is definitely a battleground inward making a stop. joey: one of the calculation will be the ticket, who is going to run with him. the beefsteak succeeding up, for people that are rumored to be on the shortlist in the new york times is taking aim at one of them. north dakota governor doug burgum the liberal newspaper put out two stories a day about program, the governor fire back on the attacks of his energy policies earlier on fox & friends weekend. what were doing in north dakota is innovation not regulation. innovation is the way were going to solve any problem and part of the reason why the donors are pouring out in silicon valley, they all understand for the new things that are coming that we need for us to maintain american dominance in our economy around the world like crypto and artificial intelligence. these are huge consumers of electricity in joe biden s energy policy where we do see the amount of baseload in our country, destabilizing the grid raising the prices for america americans. joey: seems intelligent on the topic and what americans want. north dakota has become one of the most important energy producers on the planet and the united states and all of that is because american intervention, what is great here you know that virgo is probably a serious contender because new york times is attacking him and he can wear that as a badge of honor. joey: they invoked his green energy policy but they invoked were he invoked in response to silicon valley starting to support their policies. is doug burgum the kind of guy that can get wall street in silicon valley alike behind the trump. cheryl: absolutely and some of the things with a.i., that goes to why donald trump raised about $13 million in san francisco last week, blue san francisco. he has silicon valley behind him. i will also say as far as his energy policy he s a winner when one is come to north dakota carbon credits, the oil industry in the gas industry has been talking about that, how do you offset your environmental footprint, that is something that can be bipartisan but also economically strong and has been in a state like north dakota. he is very well-liked in that state. joey: we saw the list of candidates for vp we have jd vance, tim scott, right here we have a montage or a video that shows a reaction to some of this. there s no question i think we have an amazing talented republican party and a great bench. what we need to make sure that we do, have people who are ready to take this to the mat. we are conversations with the trump team but i m not spoke about the vice presidential thing with the president directly and until i do is to be this is a lot of media speculation i would help donald trump get elected because it s important he becomes an ex-president. i think only one person knows who s on the shortlist and that would be president trump. joey: in the last minutes we heard four of the veep stakes candidates, through the montage, they re all very tightlipped, none of them will admit, jd vance says he hasn t talked to trump about it at all. they tried to go after tom cotton, have you filled out any documents, give me a hint, this is donald trump. we do not know what s going to happen we don t know if that ll expand, shrink, it ll be 70 that nobody is even thinking about. i would be hesitant to place a bet, that is for sure, that is what are the things going to vegas is raising money out there. joey: the one thing he s doing, all of the contenders are hot on the trail right now. i would and onto either because of trying to earn it and do him favors and even elise stefanik was strong this weekend, we have a big hour still ahead on the big weekend show including this. he got shot down in new guinea and they never found the body because there were a lot of camels for real and not 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any other questions. visited biden has to be back here in western europe midweek, it s unclear why he and the first lady flew back to delaware tonight. molly: great question, i wonder what s going on in delaware. remember when biden claimed his uncle was eaten by cannibals, he brought up his famous uncle as biden wrapped up his visit today. i don t want to make this personal but every time i show up at a military site where veterans are buried, it brings back memories of hearing my grandfather my mother talk about the loss of their son and brother in the south pacific and i think about my son beau after a year in iraq. the claim that he made a few months ago is now being fact check by the new york times. they called and bows he, a hell of an athlete until he was a kid and he became the army air corps before the army came along this single engine planes over war zones, got shu shot down inw guinea and they never found the body because there were a lot of cannibals for real and not part of new guinea. cannibals, joey, what a detail. joey: the best part was immediately new guinea came out with a statement saying this is racist and horrible thing to say about us. on top of that the pentagon came out and said there s no record of that. you want to laugh at it but if he s willing to go that far to make up a story about cannibals to connect himself to world war ii and take a step back, look at the soundbite right before that he says every time he goes to a military graveyard to honor those that were falling in line of duty, he things about his son who spent a year in iraq. the reason he brings atopy was to convince people that his son was killed in combat, he brings that up in his cross the line before his son tragically died from cancer, there is no proof that that was connected to anything and it really does bother me, it upsets me that he s willing to take the tragedies within his own family and pastor dies them so he can score some weird political points was certain demographics. molly: on the subject on his uncle who passed during the war, papa new guinea s leader as you mentioned came forward with this story was told back in april, this is not the first time that the president has talked about his uncle. biden does love to tell stories, sometimes he tries to connect with whatever crowd he is talking in front of so we cut them down to size, this from the new york times article, his suggestion that mr. finnigan was shot down and cannibalized in new guinea is not supported by military records or anthropologist, mr. finnigan would ve been an unlikely victim of cannibalism in new guinea, studies of cannibalism in the country have noted that victims tend to be from enemies from warring tribes and active revenge or deceased relatives as part of a morning ritual, rather creative tactic that is taking or telling the particular story, that is the new york times calling them out as people and by the way to be clear, the pentagon has said he was a passenger on aircraft that crashed into the ocean on the north course of new guinea in may 1944, the engines on aircraft failed, three men including mr. biden s uncle lost in that. i would go with the pentagon s version of events and not president biden s version of events. i don t understand why the white house press officer, somebody s advisors, he has been fact checked over and over, the fire at the delaware home he goes on to talk about they almost died and we almost lost our house it was terrific, it was a small kitchen fire. his been repeatedly debunked fire officials in the town said it is not what happened. somebody needs to stop him. all this does is make him look bad and i m a little nervous about what is going to say and do at the g7. we solve these gaffes during the d-day celebration. that is one issue but world leaders, the world stage, the business of our country at the g7 i am a little nervous. molly: that raises a great point, the mix up of the country names is also happened before but i want to bring you in here before we run out of time, the storytelling and the mixups. charlie: anytime you have to bring an anthropologist to a political story you are probably in deep trouble, the greatest honor that he could do for uncle posey would to get the story right until the correct story. i love it when the new york times decides to weigh in and do a fact check of joe biden and they say the story that biden makes up, these are a way for him to connect with voters and emphasize the middle class joe persona and charm the audience, what i would love is for the new york times to find a member of the audience who is charmed by these stories or to find anyone other than the media itself who thinks that joe biden is somehow a middle class joe kind of guy, that is a lie that the biden campaign has perpetrated in the media picks up. molly: the swanky digs with amenities in a café in the gym that the homeless will be getting in los angeles, will this all the homeless crisis? 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[ laughter ] it s funny because i m not boss material! . charlie: welcome back to the big weekend show . liberal l.a. has a new solution for the homeless crisis. luxury living, the city is about to open a new 19 story apartment building in the middle of skidrow complete with luxury amenities like a café, a gym and an art studio. deb all of our tells the new york times that were trying to make our little corner of the world look in feel little bett better. the homeless crisis is the only problem for california governor gavin newsom, business owners are calling him out for raising the minimum wage to $20 an hour, they took out a full-page ad to show the country the real cost of the minimum wage hike, the business owners claim nearly 10000 jobs have been cut since governor newsom signed the bill into law. including 1200 pizza hut delivery drivers who had to be laid off. cheryl, you are far smarter about business and i will ever be. when you talk about jacking up the minimum wage and giving free luxury housing to homeless people, who does not hurt the most? cheryl: that would hurt the academy and also the taxpayers. that s the thing about california, they lead the nation when it comes to one-way moves out of the state. the tax base is shrinking, newsom is sitting on a 45 million-dollar budget deficit. he now wants to cut money from the prison system, cut money from law enforcement and the courts. but let s build a tower skews and prime l.a. property, $600,000 is the unit cost for each of these, each of the tower, you cannot tell me that that makes fiscal sense because it does not. they are desperate, desperate, it s good to be more taxes, it could be worse for the taxpayer. charlie: if you re a young person trying to get in the housing market that would make it the climb steeper to get into the housing market. look at some of the things that they re going to talk about defending the police, they say were not really in favor of defunding the police, yes they are they want to cut $97 million to child court operation 80 million from the department of correction, 10 million from d.o.j. vision of law enforcement, is going to make quality-of-life in l.a. better? joey: the libertarian in me wants to say some are not too bad kept the federal spending in the federal pork but these are also part of the government that are constitutional protection of our rights as citizens we have a right to go to court and defend ourselves and our proper representation and have proper adjudication of things that we are concerned about. if you start cutting the courts, the ripple effect of how people s lives are rocked, look at what president trump is going to if his conviction is appealed he s an innocent man. what if there were the resources that hangs over for ten years instead of two, put yourself in that situation in a state like california where they have a ban on everything it a code against everything and you have to argue to live your life freely. charlie: last week gavin newsom was boasting california has more fortune 500 companies than any state in the country even if as it s impossible for the lower the income the worse it is for people in california. molly: not just in california but the big cities, chicago, boston, housing affordability issue. it is not just the people at the very bottom, the homeless that needs a place to live, it s well above that, you talked about young couples, citywide living close to the poverty line, they cannot afford a home. this is an issue for cities, they have been trying to work and address this. the crisis with the migrants coming in, this is affecting cities, city budget and this is among the creative things that cities and states are doing to house migrants but in boston and massachusetts, the baystate correctional center, an old present is expected to be open later this month to migrants to house hundreds of people. the creativity is going in all directions and many of the states are suffering. charlie: that s important point, as young voters go to the polls this year, they should remember when you bring in 6 million illegals and you put them in free housing all over the country, do you know what that s going to do you do your housing prices? cheryl: the number one issue is for gen z he is housing affordability or lack thereof, nine out of ten of gen z the voters say that it. molly: and what are the reasons are clean cities. charlie: coming about the big weekend show , dramatic new video shows the idf s heroic rescue, four hostages from hamas in the media how did outrageous reaction to the rescue. that is next. . molly: welcome back to the big weekend show the idea of releasing dramatic new video of the rescue of four israeli hostages for being held by hamas since october 7. one of the hostages, noah argo moni is revealing the horrors of being held captive by hamas, she said she thought she was going to die four times in hamas dressed her as a palestinian woman to move her from house to house, this is an image of the room where she was held in a terrorist home, fox news correspondent trey yingst had an update on the deering rescue from tel aviv tonight. good evening a significant development out of israel tonight as were cabinet members benny and resigned from the government. is a major blow to benjamin netanyahu who can still say empower but will be more reliant on far right ministers in his coalition. the development comes as we have good news to report, for former israeli hostages are now home, they were rescued yesterday morning in a complex multipart operation in central gaza, reports indicate special forces storm two buildings in the new refugee camp, there they were engaged in firefights with thomas cadman. ultimately completed the mission. this was a high risk mission based on precise intelligence conducted in daylight. in two separate buildings, deep inside of gaza. while under fire inside the buildings, under fire on the way out from gaza, armed forces rescued our hostages. one officer was killed in the fight against hamas during the rescue message that brought the hostages home. in the tel aviv hostages reunited with loved ones, even received a visit from the country s prime minister benjamin netanyahu, instead of gaza palestinians comb through the aftermath of the raid, the hamas run palestinian helped ministry said more than 200 people were killed, the majority civilians. with the operation took place, one of the interesting part of the story, american involvement, the new york times reports a team of american hostage recovery officials stationed in israel assisted the israeli military effort to rescue the four captives by providing intelligence and other logistical support. the story illustrates how complex the work can be for the palestinian people death and destruction for the israelis. cheryl: thank you very much, the mainstream media is drawing scrutiny over the way it s reacting to the heroic rescue of the four hamas hostages in gaza. cnn saying the hostages were released when in fact they were rescued, the washington post choosing to highlight the palestinians killed during the operation, saying the mission left scores of palestinians de dead. cheryl: if you want to give cnn the benefit of the doubt, find maybe a mistake, a young producer but it looked like it was pretty deliberate to me. i watched it live. charlie: exactly, you would think if they made a mistake like that it would be something you would correct right away and say i use the wrong word but that was not forthcoming, it s also a much larger pattern of the press here and around the world telling the story from the perspective of hamas which is kind of insane. i think it is interesting news that trey reported on on the u.s. hostage officials participating. wait until the lunatic wing of joe biden s party find that there was u.s. officials advised on this. also in order to get an idea of just how jaundiced much of the reporting on all of this is, noa argamani who was rescued was stained at the home of a gaza journalist. and you want to talk about three way house of mirrors, this is what we dealing with their, unfortunately too many american media file for. cheryl: the other thing, it is hamas we have a hard time believing what they tell us to civilian casualties, this is them telling us how many people died, yes people in gaza are dying, absolutely. but the numbers is something else but the washington post picks right up on that. joey: is an easy way to stop people dying, give up the hostages. no one on the left says that because it s easier to point to israel because of the military power over hamas but that does not make sense, one single say about the separation the most famous and executed and high-stakes and high-stakes that we ve ever done is bin laden raid. without a planet in technology that the united states has, years of intelligence data and we lost a helicopter, it turned organized chaos is what combat is. everything that you train for full the minute you get off the bird, get off the boat or get out of the vehicle. that s the way combat happens. i m very impressed by this. but they would not of had the opportunity had they not gotten into rafah to begin with in our president said. cheryl: israel lost every respected commander, he died during the raid. i want to get your take on the politics of all of this. the war has been politicized repeatedly in this country, here is what kamala harris said about the rescue. molly: before i began, i want to say a few words about the boarding that i know weighs heavily on all of our hearts on october 7 hamas committed a brutal massacre of 1200 innocent people and objected to a 50 hostages. thankfully four of the hostages were reunited tonight and we mourn all of them innocent lives that are been lost in gaza and those tragically killed today. both sides of the issue. molly: also jake sullivan said we know innocent people were tragically killed in this operation he told cnn state of the union on sunday that is heartbreaking and tragic. the gaza health ministry that cannot be trusted over 200 palestinians were killed. the hostages were held amongst the civilian population which is one of the reasons if you are going to go in there to rescue your hostages, it makes it more challenging to get these people out. this bracket listened they were able to do that. as you mentioned the numbers given out, this is a hero that lost his life as part is this great mission to bring their people home. if the people were not being held there, the deering daytime grades to rescue them would not be necessary. the death toll that the gazan health ministry creates anytime anything s going on that would not be reported either. the hostages were home you have to going to get them. it was heartening to hear that the army could officials offering advice because there are american hostages still being held. cheryl: seven of the hostages have been rescued, seven but to your point a cease-fire possible intellect all of them go. were you to take a quick break, a fragrant trowel of a sports commentator close at caitlin clark s olympics knob. tomorrow, by the way jd vance is going to join fox & friends 8:20 a.m. to talk about trump s big weekend, the fundraising hall in the vp that entered betty, dvr the show if you cannot catch it live. dad is a legend. and his legendary moves might be passed down to you. dancing is just one of the many inherited traits you can discover with ancestry dna. get it for dad, and together you can see which traits were inherited, the places where they started, and the people he shares them with. best of all, it s on sale for father s day. but get movin , this sale is only for a limited time. sleepy? headaches? dry skin? you re probably dehydrated. try liquid labs rapid hydration. it s packed with all five essential electrolytes. taste amazing and way less sugar than sports drinks? rehydrate and feel 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and i know i could ve gone either way of me being on the team are not be on the team. i m excited for them. no disappointment, it gives you something to work for, it s a dream, hopefully one day i can be there and a little bit more motivation. fans and sports analysts it criticized to not have clark on the olympic team, considering the wa mva number one draft pick s all-time leading scorer in ncaa division i history and the fastest wba player to reach to a point in 40 assist in the lease history, millions of new fans have tuned into clark s games to watch her compete. you could argue that caitlin clark is the most talked about, discuss, most popular to putting in the seat single most basketball and tabasco player in the world, and you leave off the olympics team, it s not only a showcase for her but the sport in the other wba players who were on the team. how dumb, how brain-dead, how idiotic do the people running this thing have to be. the athletic is reported that these are the 12 players who made the olympic team, nine of the athletes have competed in the olympics before, including brianna stewart and two-time wba mvp. the list indicates veteran players were preferred, the roster was chosen by the women s basque about committee. at some sports analyst note the 22-year-old will likely have more opportunity in the future. charlie: controversial sports commentator tomorrow on chetumal hill posting on x, caitlin clark not being on this year of the big team is a good thing for her. in the span of weeks, she went from playing college ball to becoming a professional to having the grind of a schedule, all multi week break is probably not the worst thing in the world she will eventually make the olympics team. i ve got to say i m not your world s greatest expert on the wba and we have to get to her in a minute but what is the point of having an olympics team if it s not have the best players so you win. molly: you re not the only critic on that level, i certainly am not a sports commentator at all but in usa today kristi brennan saying leaving th caitlin clark off the team is a missed opportunity and that s the idea of the intention that she could ve brought not only the sport but the limbic team and everyone else on the other 15. she s been real classy about this not being her time saying shelby bit back and motivated, she s been class act about the whole thing. charlie: i can honestly tell you i cannot name is single mva wt name but she was classy about it. cheryl: the fever most people can name that. the other thing about caitlin clark, at this point, the commissioner of the wnba needs to sit down until these coaches in these players and off is enough with going after caitlin clark, she s been criticized by the media and she s been criticized by other players, she is the best thing to happen to women s basketball, i would argue, ever and this is a big missed opportunity. it is a shame she did not make the olympics team but i understand, i m an athlete as well but resting her body if she could take a month off now and there will be no wnba games and she can actually heal up, she didn t go from college ball to pro ball, that cannot be easy physically for her. charlie: you re an expert. joey: there are some stats, 13th in scoring in the league she leads in turnovers, her team is 3 - 9 she s won three games so far, she came in a superstar in waiting but she has not met the superstar mantra yet. i don t mind that she s left out but understand this is one aspect of a bigger conversation, the real caitlin clark conversation is how she s been received by the wnba and treated by opponent players. in that context, that does look bad. charlie: it s remarkable people are actually watching. stick around the big four is next. welcome back to the big weekend sherbet everyone will be talking about this week. i ll go first biden homeland security secretary is now admitting there is no impact yet on biden s board or executive order. what has the impact been? how many migrants have been turned away between those ports of entry? martha where very early stage implementation our intent is to really change the risk calculus of individuals before they leave for the border a big story many, many spin off stories of the border this and next week that we kept up a part of that weight to find out this particular executive order has an impact or not. oh well, you break it and you ll buy youbuy at ohio law me legislation that could enforce rioters to pay for property damages they cause while breaking the law. this is in response to all the damage we have seen on college campuses, to personal property to retail stores, pick your right with his rights in 2020, writes this year if you re going to go out that you re going to cause havoc in a damaging government buildings. you know what kids, get out your checkbook you are going to be held accountable financially. i love the senate bill 267 ohio more cities will follow. wises even debatable question work it is common sense. we have got to make at the law, i love it. is on spine lieutenant colonel retired yesterday after more than 20 years as a pilot in the nicest air force. he flew combat missions in afghanistan, iraq and syria with over 4000 hours of flight in multiple aircraft including refueling operations with the big casie 135 are they call it the strata tanker. lacey spent the majority of his time as an instructor pilot molding some of the most skilled pilots in the united states air force and beyond. lacey is a good friend of mine historian is one of perseverance, overcoming struggles early on his life he is living proof a life of the service can help us become the best version of ourselves he will now move on to helping veterans heal and transition zac brown campus of the ground there in georgia you can read it lacey story of my book on broken bonds a battle lacey, and good luck brother. thank you for the decades of leading our best and sacrificing for our freedom. but that is awesome but this is a letdown from that. check out this footage mountain pass outside of teton pass outside of jackson, wyoming. the road has completely collapsed what is interesting about this is this is the road that connects jackson hole, the playground of billionaires with eastern idaho the only place you can afford to live out there. looks like this summer bunch of them billionaires are going to have to learn how to do their own yardwork. will this survive? hard to say it. 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priyanka kishore, the director and principal economist at research company, asia decoded, gave us her take. modi is actually working with an alliance which has a lot of experience of pushing through reforms in the government. of course, i think that there will be a slowdown in the decision making in certain areas and the big bang reforms that people are expecting that won t come through. but will not completely see a stalling. labour reforms, i think, will be prioritised. be prioritised. and we can debate the be prioritised. and we can debate the outcomes, - be prioritised. and we can debate the outcomes, but be prioritised. and we can - debate the outcomes, but the reality that many people talk about is that in the last ten years, india has been bold economic decisions as well made by the bjp government, and many feel that that has worked, in a way, for international investors. are you likely to see that continue?- investors. are you likely to see that continue? the decision makin: see that continue? the decision making means see that continue? the decision making means that see that continue? the decision making means that executive i making means that executive reforms and administrative reforms and administrative reforms can happen. but as a result of the decision making reforms, we have not seen land reforms, we have not seen land reforms or agricultural reforms. now, this is a new landscape, and the reason that we might still see labour reforms happen is because there is an alliance, there is an impetus with employment becoming a key issue, and hence, we could see more dialogue. sol hence, we could see more dialogue. so i think eventually, investors will come around and see that this is not such a bad outcome. the government such a bad outcome. the government spending - such a bad outcome. the government spending on capex has been a priority. what more needs to be done? is private investment something you re looking out for? looking out for? definitely. that s a great looking out for? definitely. that s a great point, - looking out for? definitely. i that s a great point, actually. because for the labour interventions that need to happen, we will see some shift in the expenditure mix in the fiscal. so i am expecting. capex to be curtailed a bit. but it will not be surging and money will go towards education, training and social sectors which makes it all the more essential for private investment to kick in. and i think that the way for that to happen is to start promoting trade and exports and making imports cheaper. fin trade and exports and making imports cheaper. imports cheaper. on paper, india still imports cheaper. on paper, india still remains imports cheaper. on paper, india still remains one - imports cheaper. on paper, india still remains one of i imports cheaper. on paper, | india still remains one of the fastest growing economies but the pressure points remain. what would be your first course of action that you would like to see? , , ~ ., of action that you would like to see? , , ~ ., , to see? definitely like to see dialouue to see? definitely like to see dialogue and to see? definitely like to see dialogue and movement - to see? definitely like to see dialogue and movement on l to see? definitely like to see l dialogue and movement on the labour side. we have focused on infrastructure. we have focused on other side initiatives. labour s contribution has lacked for too long in india. from the indian economy to the japanese has contracted by a smaller margin than initially reported. according to data on monday, the economy shrunk by 1.8% from a year earlier instead of 2%. weighing on the outlook is a weak yen and a safety scandal in the country s car industry. turning to the oil industry, aramco, the saudi arabian energy giant says that investors have bought up. they re expected to raise almost $11 billion from the move and it comes days after the head of the united nations called fossil fuel companies the godfathers of climate chaos. a senior research analyst says that the middle eastern country is keen to diversify its economy away from oil. ~ ., , oil. we need to see the ex-with sale of aramco oil. we need to see the ex-with sale of aramco by oil. we need to see the ex-with sale of aramco by the oil. we need to see the ex-with sale of aramco by the saudis i oil. we need to see the ex-with sale of aramco by the saudis in| sale of aramco by the saudis in the bigger context of what mohammed bin salman is trying to do here, and that s all about saudi vision 2030, where the saudis are looking to really modernise their economy and diversify away from oil and gas. and we expect the money raised, the $11 billion to $12 billion will go into saudi s investment fun. and they re undertaking a transformation of the saudi economy. the public investment fund is key to that. and if you look at some of the ambitions with the saudi, we re talking about a trillion dollars of investment. notjust in the futuristic city, which many people talk about, but in areas like green energy, both at home and abroad, manufacturing and areas like sports and tourism, which is going to see a very fundamental change of the saudi economy in society over the neck ten years. society over the neck ten ears. , , . society over the neck ten ears, , , ., ., years. and this plan of the saudi government - years. and this plan of the saudi government to - years. and this plan of the i saudi government to diversify beyond oil how do you see that progressing and the kind of steps or actions that are likely to come ahead? for those of us who likely to come ahead? for those of us who have likely to come ahead? for those of us who have visited likely to come ahead? for those of us who have visited riyadh i of us who have visited riyadh lately, it is very, very different to only a few years ago. certainly ten years ago. cranes are everywhere. society and the economy is being fundamentally transformed. if you think about it, for example, most of us when we re thinking of going on a holiday, i don t think that saudi arabia is even on the list. but in ten years, saudi arabia could be one of those top tourism destinations. forthose one of those top tourism destinations. for those of us who remember the transformation of dubai a few decades ago, what we re seeing in saudi is now is very much like that, but on steroids because they ve got a lot more money behind it, and they re attracting a lot more foreign investment. and it is a fundamental transformation. they re trying to do what a lot of western economies have taken a hundred years to do, in 20 years. a hundred years to do, in 20 ears. ,, y years. staying with the energy industry here years. staying with the energy industry here in years. staying with the energy industry here in asia, - years. staying with the energy| industry here in asia, malaysia will remove blanket subsidies on diesel starting on monday. the move is expected to save the government around $850 million a year. diesel will now be sold at a market price that will be set weekly, except in the eastern malaysian states where it will remain subsidised. let s now take a closer look at nollywood, which is the nigerian entertainment industry, comparable to hollywood and india s bollywood. in april, film star junior pope when the boat he was travelling in from a film set cap sized. an investigation found a number of safety failings including that the boat driver wasn t certified. 0ur correspondent has been speaking to people in lagos about the industry s safety records and what needs to change. nollywood is booming. but, it s got a darker side. this is a cultural centre here in lagos and what you can see around me are some of the remnants of a huge nollywood premiere that took place with some of the top names. nollywood is one of the top film industries in the world, up there with hollywood and india s bollywood and it puts out more than 2,500 films every single year. but recently, there have been some concerns over things like health and safety in the films. in april, top nollywood actor junior pope died in a boat accident. it cap sized after hitting canoe in a river killing five people. in this clip, filmed byjunior pope the day before he died, he s clearly concerned about his safety. an investigation found military imfailures. the boat wasn t registered. its driver had no licence, and only one passenger was wearing a life jacket. that s because they d brought it on board themselves. the bbc has obtained a now deleted video clip from the producer s instagram where she says she was told there were life jacket and junior pope was offered one but didn t take it. actress and screenwriter ruth was a friend ofjune area pope s and she was shocked by his passing. it pope s and she was shocked by his passing- his passing. it was much more ainful his passing. it was much more painful for his passing. it was much more painful for me, his passing. it was much more painful for me, because i his passing. it was much more painfulfor me, because i- his passing. it was much more painfulfor me, because i have beenin painfulfor me, because i have been in that exact same situation before. so i understood the fear everything that he must have felt at the last minute of his life. i had to shoot an epic movie, so we couldn t use life jackets. i asked everybody in team if everything was ok. they said yes, it was fine. so i got on the boat. action they said and then they started to paddle. the canoe tumbled into this very big river. so my colleague, frankensense, his name, grabbed because i said i can t swim and stuff like that. it s an experience that i will never forget. will never forget. this actor sa s will never forget. this actor says the will never forget. this actor says the industry will never forget. this actor says the industry is - will never forget. this actor| says the industry is learning from its mistakes. says the industry is learning from its mistakes. safety has been quite from its mistakes. safety has been quite low. from its mistakes. safety has been quite low. but - from its mistakes. safety has been quite low. but right i from its mistakes. safety has. been quite low. but right now, it is better. so i think that the it is better. so i think that the incident was a bit of a wake-up the incident was a bit of a wake up call to everybody, wa ke up call to everybody, directors wake up call to everybody, directors and actors. right now, directors and actors. right now. we directors and actors. right now, we actor, we have to go back now, we actor, we have to go back home. now, we actor, we have to go back home- back home. we all do crazy thins back home. we all do crazy things for back home. we all do crazy things for the back home. we all do crazy things for the love - back home. we all do crazy things for the love of i back home. we all do crazy things for the love of the i back home. we all do crazy i things for the love of the job. going home later. 3:00am on a day doing things that we would not normally do. our timing for filming is insane. the industry agn should have proper rest days. i also think that individuals should look out for themselves, and just fix it for themselves. figs themselves, and ust fix it for themselves. themselves. as nollywood continues themselves. as nollywood continues to themselves. as nollywood continues to thrive, i themselves. as nollywood continues to thrive, the i themselves. as nollywood i continues to thrive, the world will now be watching how it treats people who work there. and now, the actor s guild of nigeria said in a statement afterjunior pope s death that it has set up a committee to improving safety guidelines as well as protocols. switching focus now to more news. norway s wealth fund says that it will vote against ratifying elon musk s $56 billion pay package. the fund says that it remains concerned about the total size of the award. mr musk s pay package is the largest for a chief executive in corporate america. it was voided by a judge earlier this year and will be put to tesla shareholders for a vote this week. and before we go, what we re looking at shall four passengers from the us, turkiye and italy travelled to space on and italy travelled to space on a virgin galactic space. it was organised by the space company which will now take a two year break. that s all for now. thank you for watching. carbon credit schemes help to offer a way to save the planet. can then or are they full of hot air? hello and welcome to sportsday i m chetan pathak, coming up on the programme: will he be the next king of clay? carlos alcaraz wins the french open after an enthralling five set final in paris. a thriller in new york india survive a scare to beat pakistan at the t20 cricket world cup and back to winning ways world champion max verstappen comes out on top at a dramatic canadian grand prix. welcome along, thank you forjoining us. we start with a history making win for carlos alcaraz, the new french open champion, who at the age of 21 is the youngest man to win grand slams on all three surfaces after he beat alexander zverev in a gripping five set final at roland garos. alcaraz, bottom of your screen, who s previously won the us open and wimbledon took the opening set playing the better tennin, but zverev, hoping to win his first grand slam title won the next two and looked on course for victory only for the spanish third seed, to find another gear. he only lost three games in the final two sets as he fulfilled what he called his childhood dream and emulated one of his heroes and compatriot rafael nadal. winning a grand slam is always special. winning your first. every grand slam. it was super special. but in roland garros, now with all of the spanish players who have won this tournament and to be able to put my name on that list is something unbelievable something unbelievable something that i dream about being in this position since i
Be able to do that. go out. with dog manure. the latest bizarre food trended making the rounds of social media kcal bars smothering catch up yes and the skills here you go. and this is for you. no no no. this is a break me off moment, these are made it to be shared. that s not possible, that is not possible. the vertex, the vertex, charlie. no no no. i think the thing to do is you look awfully cancer first and then you eat the chocolate. this is an improvement on catch up. and the dozen for us and we will see you tomorrow the big we can show and life, liberty & levin starts right now. mark: hello america i am mark levin and this is life, liberty & levin saturday powerful show and superstar the house of representatives, and professor stephen calabrese, from northwestern university law school in one of the lawyers be on the challenge of jack smith the special counsel unconstitutional appointment will be really fantastic at and before you do that, what you something little bit differently tonight. at which go biden and orbiting of the day giving his speech and i was appalled obviously he said some very important things about his politicization on the 80th anniversary take a shot at donald trump trump actually lying about with donald trump said, in doing so very nasty way, and the negative thinking to myself, there is a man, standing at nobody, the day, company standing it morgan state college in front of black male students are at howard, what is giving speeches generally stretching the united states and talking about how our history has been horrific and we do not have equality of opportunity. an effective never this been giving inspiring patriotic pro- american speech in his life. the speech that he gave it d-day were d-day accord become of them will never go down in history as it rate speech and only back and listened to president trump s speech of the 75th anniversary and it was hearing a beautiful. it was patriotic it as i went back in the listen the reagan speeches i think a magnificent speech in a beautiful speech, biden is not up to being president of the night 60s even worse letting the leader and he does represent the values and the belief system of the american people and he represent take french radical group. in the negative thinking about bernie sanders than others and aoc and omar in that whole ilk and what they say about the american people in our country, and to think about the american immediate day in and day out with crt di, teresa the world of the jake tapper s of the world and so forth as it is so horrendous, the disconnect, between the american needed most of it, the disconnect between the disconnect between the democratic party, the president of the leadership, and we the people of america, kenobi bigger. i wanted you a little story and we were attacked at pearl harbor, three-minute that i know up with quickly to try to join the war effort coming to protect our country when at that my mother s father, grandfather as it was maurice rubin and he hated his name so he collects of he was 34 years old right of the limited. any joined the marines. any phonic wall develop long brutal battle and went on from july 21st, till august 10th of 1944, was 2000 of her mental killed, there were 6000 wounded it, but that was nothing end of it. and he was in the fifth division of the marines. and this is his platoon. you can see the mid- in this platoon i think it was 13 if i recall. you can see him there and i want you to look at the picture the vast majority of those men died at iwo jima than to begin moment i want you to look at them if you do they sing fight entered like they are privilege addict what they are not privileged grandfather was born report. his parents came over from russia. with nothing. everything that he had a word for there was no welfare state. but he loved his country. to the court and the battle at iwo jima, 6800 americans died of that island it in 19000 over 19000 casualties in the battle went on from february 19th to march 265 six weeks and look at the casualties, there were more medal of honor recipients as a result of that engagement of 27 in any battle in american history from the fifth marine division of the division, other marine divisions, animals 2500 died and there were 6000 wounded. they sustain the heaviest lo losses. my grandfather was a patriot. when he came back, from that war, his hands shook. he lost his voice. any spoke like this the rest of his life read remember when i first met my grandfather committees about 6-foot 3 inches tall big man and even an amateur boxer was a tough guy and remember he walked in the house the four big sticks along brown leather coat and a chihuahua in his pocket. [laughter] that he gave to the family a chihuahua puppy is a gift card that was my first memory of him. and of no white supremacist pretty any of the patriotic american. in the latter years of his life, he lived in quietly. diabetes, it is his foot removed and so forth and so on her stories are not unique and i want to tell you about another minute or family by the way is brother, his brother-in-law, sister s husband, named kevin at synthetic he joined the marines the same date, and he fought on the solomon violence, and the canal, and he was a big tough man with big hands and this what i remember. and to tremendous patriots, tremendous patriots and there was my father, and am telling you this for a reason because american families all over this country have gone through the ups and american citizens, houthis and respected by their government and who deserve respect for the president. from there to have it for families it tapped over and over again and lies told about the projection of racism on top of them for the racism the biden family practice in the racism joe biden practice in the senate, and it had nothing to do with my father my grandfather my great uncle are my family, nothing. this on biden and on july 4th 1937, my father jack, then 12 years old, and a neighborhood but he walked it several miles from their homes, the parade route with the city philadelphia was already donations founding father route stretch from center city philadelphia, upper from independence hall come to the philadelphia art museum or sylvester stallone would make famous in the rocky movies, early 40 years later. in a apply, father s attention, a civil war veteran and he said on the back of a four-door convertible, dressed in his all union uniform, including his campaign hat and behind him marched a small group of spanish american war veterans, but of all of the soldiers the veterans are merging vance my father sought that they come the union soldier so that camille jack had been somewhat about the civil war in school, saying the soldier in the flesh intrigued him and the soldier would become seared in my father s mind of the most costly war in american history, became real to and thus become a father s lifelong journey of self-education and patriotic preaching, about this great nation s history and founding principles and at a young age jack in an effort drawing from a designing and when he was 13 years old, he designed an automobile window and intervention for the contest that they were conducting in conjunction with the release of the movie young tom is income starring mickey rooney remember the little triangle window, well and among others, that was his idea and he was one of only five winners citywide, and earned a trip to the 1939, new york world s fair in this had incredible impression on him and a 15, my father committed an idea with drawings for animating the story a christmas carol to the in california, the studio loved and asked that he provide more examples of his work including, numerous cartoon drawings which he did in the next contacted his parents announced that it would allow percentage points disney studios. well, they said they would provide them with dormitory state space in either facility what is working for them but his parents concern about his age, turned down the offer my father grew up during the great depression his family was very very poor and his father harry to part-time jobs when he can find them, and his mother sarah worked in his cigar factory in about a mile down from where there were living jack was the oldest of four children. any boy and when he turned 16 years old, half of the school day you did, you would walk to the cigar factory, down the street where he worked until midnight and running the going rate of $17 a week on week as my father took freelance jobs furniture frame manufactured, sketching frames going to oppose herself as a chair said he was paid, $2 for a set of drawings and manufacturers salesman use the finished drawings with the customers he was later the japanese attacked pearl harbor and jack spend the summer working at the craps shipyard from the philadelphia shipyard, with the oldest destroyers and summaries but he wanted to do more for the war effort like somebody wonderful mentor that young time, my father decided to enlist in the armed forces and he wanted to be a cadet in the army air corps, which today we know the air force. jack was only 17, he was too young and so he security copy of his birth certificate from city hall, rubbed out the number five in 1925, his birth year, any written for and just like that he reached the legal age requirement of 18. now if you pass a rigorous their core exam, he was in and cadets took the exam including students from the university of pennsylvania but only for paths, including my father not long thereafter, is my father was boarding a train to biloxi mississippi, for basic training, the soldier stopped him and told him the lt. wanted to see him of the cynically taken close of the birth certificate and asked jack how old he was objectively the truth. the ten at ten was not very happy with my father when he turned 18, he joined up in a week after, he turned 18 and he did well in their service, jack would use brief respites committed to rock tunes which were published in a variety of newspapers later joined the regular army, and in the infantry and it always bothered him, they never sent him overseas rate and when he was on his deathbed, he called me over five and half years ago, it was just he and i in the hospital room. his body was a wreck with cancer. and he said you know mark, i know what god did not send me to europe in a supply get. and he sits organ have you and your mother and i could have you. my peers were great people. and as he was dying, he was trying to write another book. the declaration of independence and he wrote several books gettysburg address, second inaugural address, and installing to his children and influenced the of a this is what he drew, shortly before he passed away. i shorted before he passed away. in the current president of the united states secretary of state, national security advisor, and the press secretary for the presbytery and for the secretary of state and they keep saying when it comes to his part from there is no victory right when they mean by victory, i m a grandfather knew what victory meant. my great uncle knew what victory that my father knew it victory met it we know what victory means. when i listen to donald trump speech coming in and referencing of the concentration camps only listen to ronald reagan speech, any reference to the six jews had been slaughtered, i listen to joe biden speech and he never mentioned this ralph, no months. talk about trump, the naming him. any talk about ukraine, and i agree with him on ukraine. he is the one that s held back ukraine despite all the money spent, they have not but in the army mets, that they need to actually defeat some of these russian battalions. and is withheld the okay for them to attack beyond a certain level of the europeans have been begging him. and he talks about democracy. but is in front of other groups and he talks about his hate for america. and you know who else know about victory, dwight eisenhower and harry truman, the new something about victory after close to i ve years of fighting the in europe in general and eternal life on june 6, 1944, d-day of the set apart from the tightest turn, the freemen of the world are merging together to victory and i have full confidence in your courage, devotion, to duty skill and that will accept nothing less than victory also year after d-day president harry truman announced ve day of may 8th 1945 in which he said in part, this victory, we join in offering our thanks to the providence in which because guided and sustained us of the dark days of adversity rejoice and sobered is subdued by the supreme consciousness of the terrible price that we have paid through the world of hitler, and his evil band and if i can give away simple watch for the coming months, the board is working, work, and more working we must work coveted finish the work in our victory is only half over but much remains to be done in the victory one in the west and is now being born in the east for the triumph of spirit in arms head of which we have wanted for his promise some of the peoples everywhere, who joined us and 11 freedom and it is fitting that we as a nation give thanks to almighty god and it was us and given us the victory, and i call upon the people of the united states, whatever their faith, to united offering joyful thanks to god for the victory. we have wanted to pray that he will support us, to the end of our present struggling and guide us into the way of peace and i also call upon my countrymen, to dedicate this day of prayer come to the memory of those given their lives to make possible our victory. and he said also my personal appreciation of the suburban leadership, showing you and your commanders and directing the valiant leeches of her own country. and rallies and do this historic victory. every president has known what mean perhaps other than biden and obama in the victory, and israel right now is because i did is funding the enemy is preventing israel from winning. what is victory fiasco the reason ukrainians are now on their heels is not because of lack of money and arms coming it is because biden has held them back. any talking about russia any use that d-day speech. to lie about your political about it in front of the world, where all of those brave men are buried. that s phone place, on that solemn day, is disgusting. sue and welcome back america, we have one of the superstars i think it republican party the house of representatives, and at east in it at least if republican conference chair, she s on the house armed services committee, and nobody has question hostile witnesses like she does and i can tell you that, and is a pleasure to have you and i want to start with you, on this immigration issue joe biden was of the border, over 90 executive orders, only has to do is reverse them and we don t need a law in congress to me congresswoman the fellows existing immigration law, when we passed a law this is follow the law was joe biden done here. he has created the most catastrophic of border crisis innovations history and the american people know what is wavy look of the polling parking, is trump s pulling over 30 points ahead when he comes to handling up of border security and illegal immigration and house republicans passed the secure the border act, your ago, joe biden refused to support that bill in effect threatened to veto the bill and chuck schumer killed that builds those house republicans who have led legislatively to secure the border and it was joe biden who months ago, said that he did not have the executive authority to fix this border crisis even though the market people know that it was his executive actions that created this border crisis as of this latest desperate executive orders that joe biden has put out, political desperation and is only further fuels the illegals able to cross both are southern in our northern boulder reporters phoenix unbelievable is in the the comes out of the sky smell in the media to run with it and likely going to say to joe biden is his bipartisan bill. i partisan bill, congress woman to think the three republican supported it is negotiated in secret. on the mitch mcconnell, voted against his own bill and what with the joe biden partisan bill with duncan illegal immigration. further fueled of the fire and had open up the floodgates for more illegal immigrants two-point in this country and it would not have ended catch and release them he would not reinstated remain in mexico policy, we help what is secure border looks like helsley president trump s effective border security policies the most secure border in my lifetime and that s why house republicans opposed this pro- amnesty negotiation behind closed doors of the joe biden politically wanted to bail him out to cover up for this border crisis that he has created and of famer coming up onto the border for the southern and northern border center represent the temporal northern border, we ve seen illegal crossings, skyrocketed or joe biden is failed leadership including those on the terror partially synthesis of national security prices and economic crisis, and is a constitutional crisis because if you do not have orders from you lose your sovereignty as a nation as of this is an issue house republicans avoided were not and would reelect president trump continue to grow the house republican majority the senate and we will make sure that in addition of trumps executive orders from the we get secure the border step signed into law. mark: you know, some of the difficulty accusing the menino law i keep saying, the system is broken. first of all, what kind of law when they support, another would enshrine as you point out, open borders illegal immigration, slavery and could sold into slavery in the door-to-door darn thing about it in your acer to think about number two, to make it count on the number of women were sold into slavery encounter the number of children now were sold to pornographers and we keep him, have any of this and i noticed that very interest of keeping count of goes on in the middle east the israelis and palestinians. do we keep count of the amount of may have in the anarchy and humanity going on in the southern border as a result of this president to make it gets worse even that which you think about it, divided department of homeland security, does not know and is awestruck of nearly 100,000 minors who are in slavery being human trafficked and humanitarian travesty and it is all joe biden s watch. he has created this border crisis lock stock and barrel. the american people point of pulled him accountable you are exactly right of the president trump executive order for you the most secure border in the northern and southern border in our nations history this life the bill that the house republicans vessel strong support despite a very slow majority, we passes secure the border act to enshrine those trump executive orders in the democrats cannot have it both ways. as a first joe biden have the executive authority then they put out a desperate executive order and it is offensive to the market people in the voters because they know the joe biden s executive actions underwent open of the border and is allowed catch and release, and has created this crisis transferring of illegals to places all across the country so it is not just the border states and communities that are infected, it is every state is a border state in every community as a border community and is prices because of joe biden and president trump is going to secure the border come with the help of house republicans and senate republicans to provide safety flown at half a million foreigners in the country. and affirmatively he is has gotten them confronted into the country will move illusion pendant management will recent nothing has changed and that is the truth, nothing changeable we come back, what is it with joe biden in his hate pretty israelis in the state of israel. the few people to never speak to the net there and what is it about him and his embrace of iran and funding the enemy and we will be right back. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust. mark: welcome to fox news likein israel celebrating up to the countries military skewed hostages from central gaza and the musk enough them from music festival, october 7th them up finally back home in israel, said to be in good health and a rescue mission though, coming at a heavy cost of the palestinian side and heavy explosions and fighting could be hurt as the idea carried out that during daytime operation pretty hamas run health ministry said the more than 200 palestinians were killed fox news cannot independently confirm that number and it is the third time israel s military has successfully rescued hostages in the months long war. at least 1120 hostages remain in gaza. meantime crime minister benjamin netanyahu urging is really work out a member, not too quizzical illusion come he was expected to resign today over benjamin netanyahu handling of the war i m john scott is now back to life, liberty & levin. c1 welcome back america, were here with the least release still phonic, and if i were somebody who wanted to undermine israel, prevent them from winning a war and surely cannot survive the two state solution know the rest that would got joe biden s demand but what is this problem. will that is anti-semitism and that is a growing strain today s different party, that is not become a stream and is anti- israel every opportunity, joe biden has equivocated for la and turned his back on his route for adams honor to be invited by the speaker these really because the speaker robotic about to deliver remarks about the importance of the united states standing with israel and this the same week of the joe biden attempted and is still withholding military eight that congress passed in support of her most precious la the middle east, you have an administration that s obama, 2.0 prioritizing iran and hundred biting israel created chaos national security, threats or the world because of joe biden s weakness on the world stage. mark: quickly, to your knowledge, you said in the armed services committee what is this administration pivoting run from getting a nuclear weapon and then we read the papers this is ministration is leaning on france and the uk. not to review give ron, for his nuclear program and when you make of that. what to make of it is a continuation of the obama administration including some of the same individuals who are at the table in terms of these discussions others working through european countries summative pave the way for iranian nuclear weapons capability remember back of this is the same administration in the same state department, that put out an official statement, the loss of the iranian president you what the iranian people who had been abused by the iranian president said the regime and they did not mourn the loss of the president yet this is the same administration who is turning their back on israel. his obama 2.0 with failure and birth that to the historic achievements the middle east to president trump with received records or the recognizing jerusalem as the eternal capitol moving u.s. embassy there and we had peace in the middle east under president trump voters know they going to the polls is november c1 appointment quickly to another subject, this chamber that the placement headed. mark: and i believe you filed an ethics complaint against dissecting cho. yes multiple ethics complaints and this is shredding our democracy and the mainstream media depress accused of the right but it is really the depressed attacking our democracy and retake the judge into the near pay for this was like the case taken up by alvin bragg a corrupt prosecutor releasing by criminals on extremes is what we have five crisis in new york judge who donated to joe biden and his family members are profiting to the tens of tens of millions of dollars and raising money for the rest like adam schiff and joe biden, because of this trial and so this is a political witchhunt, the jury shopped as well asking the members with a folded donald trump tells me that did the best that the fold invited the american people know that this was rigged from the start and is in the front to us president trump is correct the real verdict will be rendered is november on election day president trump wins overwhelmingly and i also think any of the fact that president trump is within six points have a traditionally blue state means that momentum is moving in our direction because people see this for what it is that they can go up to president trump on political opponents they can go after any american c1 just me speaking about i m pleased is what i m reading a newspaper some of that you are potentially under consideration is running mate to donald trump and i just think you are great and think you very much, keep up the fine god flesh you my friend. thank you. mark: we will be right back. to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. we re here with chris counahan of our local leaffilter. so chris, tell us how leaffilter is different from every other gutter protection on the market. with leaffilters, patented filter technology, there are no gaps, no openings, no place for debris to get in at all. and we install leaffilter on your existing gutters. it s a permanent solution. you ll never have to climb a ladder to clean out your gutters again. that s amazing, chris. tell me about the process. simple and easy. just give us a call, set up an appointment. we ll come out and give you a free gutter inspection. if they re sagging, we ll repair them. if they re broken, we ll replace them. if they re in good shape, our local team will install leaffilter in as little as a few hours. wow. and i understand you guys have a 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it that you re telling the judge. steve: thank you so what we are telling the judges jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed. the justice department claims that he is what is called an inferior officer under the constitution. in the appointment because of article two, set the congress may by law thus the home point met of such inferior officers as they think proper, and the president alone in the course of law or in the heads of departments and we have reviewed the organic statutes of the justice department and of agriculture education, hhs, and transportation. it s quite clear from the statutes that congress has given the secretary of agriculture, education and hhs, and transportation, the power to avoid inferior officers in congress has not by statute given the power to the attorney general worried and so jack smith is acting illegally, and everything that he is doing is no and void and has been all avoid since he was appointed, two years ago. and we think that judge elaine canada florida great hero anand a champion of the rolloff, one of the best federal district court judges in this country, should dismiss the indictment jack smith has brought against donald trump because jack smith was on constitutionally appointed. we know steve come of all of the people of the attorney general chosen, constitutionally, the goodby individuals already gone through the confirmation process of the united states senate has compelled the appointments clause of the constitution is there for a reason. it would pick jack smith and somebody was a lawyer, who has not been approved by the senate invited the framers of the constitution when a role for congress specifically this tendency, and the appointment of these top powerful positions in the executive branch. steve: will market originally congress thought of giving the appointment and power to congress alone and only later undecided issuer between the president and the senate but they felt that it was crucial that there be a check on presidential appointment powers of the presidents notify people who bad moral character or tainted by nepotism or things of that point. in effect, under the constitution, the default method of appointment, is presidential nomination and senatorial confirmation. jack smith is not going through that the provision for inferior officers, was added originally simply for clerks and people perform on policymaking jobs and of the course of her hundred 34 years of history, the number of principal officers who are nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate, has shrunk a number of inferior officers have grown vastly and actually the prosecutors, former attorney general of objects in a famous attorneys, emphasized why this is incredibly important with his accusers attorney general robert jackson went on to become supreme court justice robert jackson, nürnberg prosecutor, robert jackson, said because of the immense power to strike is citizens, not with me her usual strength, but with all the force of government and the federal sphere, from the beginning, the safeguard presidential appointment confirmation of the senate has been imposed your this required to win an expression of confidence in your character about the legislative and executive branches of the government before assuming the awesome responsibility that federal prosecutor suet know when we return professor, my question to you is this, is not smith, the most powerful prosecutor right now on the face of the united states, with massive resources and massive personnel, massive authority involving the future election of this country and with these incredible constitutional issues that he is raising and if anybody should this individual have been facing a nomination confirmation process, so somebody other than the attorney general of the united states at some of ability to oversee wittiest doing it we will be right back. 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( ) at evernorth, we combine medical and pharmacy data with behavioral health data to identify members in need of care. predicting and treating behavioral health issues quickly. while lowering costs for plan sponsors and members. that s wonder made possible. evernorth health services mark: welcome back americaprofe3 u.s. attorneys, and is jack smith not more powerful, then any of the 93 u.s. attorneys who went to the confirmation process under the constitution. steve: he is more powerful than any of the three u.s. attorneys with the confirmation process under the constitution. and if the attorney general were right, if he could appoint special counsel jack smith, he could appoint a special counsel in cook county illinois, to investigate corruption there in the senators from illinois would have no check on that. it appointed special counsel in baton rouge, louisiana, to investigate corruption and they would have no check on that there s a reason why the senate insisted on the check of senate confirmation of prosecutors and jack smith, has not been confirmed by the senate. mark: one after another subject we subject we do have a time that is the issue of a common-law or another method, for president trump and his attorneys to make a pathway to the supreme court steps and i will make it clear to them naysayers out there, we can t guarantee the supreme court will to get up and you can t guarantee the supreme court think of anything but even if you have a 10 percent chance and i think that there s bigger chance, the methodologies to do it that are extraordinary under extraordinary circumstances human idea yourself. steve: i have a couple of ideas versatile trumps new york state convictions are completely unconstitutional and in violation of the first amendment protection of freedom of speech. the question is how to get that first amendment claim from a new york trial corporative the supreme court and a couple of ideas i want president trump is equal is: prohibition which is that old common law writ, whereby the court of kings mansion in england, took cases away from the jurisdiction of ecclesiastical courts and the court of equity when they were exercising it improperly and unlawfully. any of the trial court manhattan is unlawfully prosecuting trump for first amendment protected activities of this prohibition is one mechanism, and another mechanism is with the law of the state courts and federal courts, to certify to one another, the federal questions or state questions that need to be answered. the state courts could certainly certified to the supreme court, the first amendment questions in this case. in the prosecutors could also divide the appeal intuitive feel the federal issues and ability state issues an appeal the federal issues more quickly smacking the other methods because i don t believe the prosecutors will do anything that would get it quickly to the supreme court however, there is also original jurisdiction of some of the republican attorney general of the state of new york. let me number of things and interference with their voters and interference with national election interference with federal campaign law that is a direct up to the supreme court but you mentioned the prohibition and there are several what we call common-law ritz prohibition, mandamus, corpus and the point is, the point is, that there are avenues this is not a 70-yard pass, and if that court wasn t picking up somebody else to position and they took bush versus gore they hold the voting x-uppercase-letter taking place there. they permitted the state supreme court and going any further and they said that this is a presidential election we need to address this is a was like the court has not done something like this week before and i would argue this is much worse if they don t address it now, it will get much worse in the future, in 2020 agencies will be all three willing to do whatever they want is stephen calabrese, how i think you and you are a great patriot your brilliant lawyer for a professor and a dear friend and take care of yourself. steve: thank you market is going to be in show. mark: and we will be right back. - it s apparent. not me. - yeah. nice going lou! 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Hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october 7th attacks have now been reunited with their families. but israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the military operation to free them. israeli special forces raided two locations in nuseirat, in central gaza in broad daylight. one israeli soldier was killed. hamas says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. an israeli military spokesman said there were under 100 palestinian casualties. the eu s top diplomat condemned the israeli raid. the us president has also spoken out at a press conference during his state visit to france. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming the return of the hostages to theirfamilies in israel. we won t stop working until they are all home. hugo bachega has more from tel aviv. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. she became one of the most well known faces of this crisis. her kidnapping recorded in this video. today, her ordeal came to an end. this is her, reunited with her dad. translation: please don tl forget that there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make every effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. by the way, it is my birthday, look what a gift i got. also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. this morning, the israeli military carried out a raid of the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. there were heavy airstrikes. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. if there was relief in israel, the operation meant yet more suffering in gaza. at the al aqsa hospital in nearby deir al balah, chaos and desperation. doctors struggled to treat all the wounded. many arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. today s rescue could help lift some of the pressure. our middle east correspondent hugo bachega reporting there. for more, i spoke with hugo a short while ago. good to see you. what more have you been learning about how this operation unfolded 7 the israeli military described this rescue as a special complex operation that happened during the day. there was heavy bombardment by the israeli military. special forces entered the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. they said they had been planning the operation for weeks. the military personnel involved in this operation had received special training for this mission. these four hostages were located at two different locations, then rescued by those teams involved in this operation. it seems that it has come at a very high price in terms of palestinian casualties. numbers are still not clear, but two hospitals in the area of this refugee camp in central gaza say that at least 70 people have been killed. so it is obviously a rescue operation that has been celebrated here in israel, but on the palestinian side, the head of the palestinian authority has described it as a bloody massacre. tell us more about that reaction you have been seeing from israel and from gaza, in light of the high civilian death toll that we appear to be seeing from the palestinian side. i think this is obviously going to lead to more criticism of the israeli military. we ve seen that these operations, many of them, by the israeli army result in large numbers of civilian casualties in gaza. but here in israel, obviously there have been celebrations across the country, but here in tel aviv, there was a huge protest with thousands of people who came here to tel aviv, to demand a deal with hamas for the remaining hostages to be freed. this is one of the key questions what is going to happen with those ceasefire and hostage release negotiations? the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been under pressure to accept a proposal put forward by president biden a week ago a proposal he described as an israeli proposal. this would see not only the release of the hostages, but would also pave the way for a permanent ceasefire in gaza, which is a contentious point here in israel. we have seen that there has been opposition from many in the country, including some members of the coalition government, including far right ministers itamar ben gvir and bezalel smotrich, who have threatened to quit the government. if they do so, this could lead to the end of the governing coalition. so this rescue operation has been considered a success by the israeli authorities, and could perhaps change the calculations of the prime minister, who is under pressure from all sides. let s talk more about the pressure prime minister netanyahu has been under. we know benny gantz today was due to hold a press conference. he called it off. how do you read that? does it tell us anything about the stability and the unity of the government? this is very interesting, because this was a deadline imposed by benny gantz. he had demanded a plan by benjamin netanyahu for gaza, and he said if there was no plan, he would quit the government. he has been facing a lot of pressure from members of his own party who say he should return to the opposition. obviously we focus a lot on benny gantz, because he is seen as a possible candidate to be the next prime minister in the next elections in israel. so now he has cancelled this statement. he was widely expected to announce his decision to leave the government. after the rescue operation, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu asked benny gantz to reconsider his decision. so i think there was a fear here that with the decision by benny gantz to leave the government, this could give more power to those radical far right ministers in the government. but it seems that, for now, this crisis has been averted. talking about this rescue operation and having unfolded, and the high civilian death toll we have seen on the palestinian side, ijust want to get your assessment about what you think it means for any potential agreement and success of that ceasefire proposal. yeah, so we know the us secretary of state antony blinken is returning to the region. he will be in egypt, israel, jordan and qatar. i think the idea of this trip is to put more pressure on both israel and hamas for a deal to be reached. i think one of the most contentious points of the plan put forward by president biden was the idea of a permanent ceasefire. so hamas is demanding that any kind of deal leads to a permanent ceasefire. in other words, the end of the war. because they want a guarantee that the israeli military is not going to return to gaza once the hostages are released. and continue with this military operation against the group. and the idea of a permanent ceasefire again is a divisive point in israel. the prime minister has been saying the goals remain the same, and that is to destroy the military capabilities of hamas, the ability of the group to continue to govern gaza, and there has been lots of opposition from some of his allies and from many in this country. so it is a very difficult position for the prime minister, and these negotiations have been extremely difficult as well. the indications are there hasn t been any kind of breakthrough after days of mediated talks between israel and hamas. in the aftermath of the raid, our correspondent rushdi abualouf has been speaking to palestinians in gaza. yeah, i think the people were quite angry about the number of people killed in this rescue operation. some of them, they have told me that hamas should have accepted the ceasefire proposal that had been in the table for quite a long time. and instead of, like, you know, going in and killing people to get the hostages, they could have been released for also an exchange of some of the palestinian prisoners in the israeli jail. some of the people were also expressing their views towards the other side. they were defending hamas and they said what happened is very little comparing to the period of this war, eight months. i mean, one person told me that they managed to rescue four people after four months, and this is very little achievement where they have been defeated many times in very places and hamas was able to kill some of them. so very, you know, they divide palestinian as always. they are always divided about the issue of hamas. many people are supporting what hamas is doing in gaza and they keep defending them. but today we noticed that many, many people in a very rare way were criticising hamas. and one person, he lost his family, as far as i remember, two months ago, in one of the air strikes. he wrote in his facebook and he said, why keeping hostages among a very crowded refugee camp in a market and put all of the people s life in risk? and some went more far and they said those who are sitting in the doha in qatar and controlling our life should go home. joining me is javed ali who served in the national security council of the trump administration and for the fbi. i d like to get your reaction to the release of the hostages and also how this operation unfolded. and also how this operation unfolded- 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can gather. so i think what happened, in the aftermath of the recovery of the hostages from these buildings, as they were coming out, they were taking fire from hamas fighters embedded in the cap, and other civilians around them. and under the idf s rules of engagement, they were approved to right and that s why so many civilians died. talking about the high price it appears civilians have page in all of this, do you think that could jeopardise the peace plan on the table? that might have paid. on the table? that might have aid. ~ .,, . on the table? that might have aid. . ,., on the table? that might have aid. . , ., ., paid. most recent plan, that deal i paid. most recent plan, that deal i think paid. most recent plan, that deal i think has paid. most recent plan, that deal i think has a paid. most recent plan, that deal i think has a different l deal i think has a different kind of momentum behind it. even though from the israeli side there has been a successful recovery of four hostages, they were still 110 plus that are not recovered. i think the broader aspects of the deal president biden put forward it to the issue of all the remaining hostages, not just these four. so i m a little less optimistic in the sense that this particular mission in the recovery of these hostages, i don t think it s going to add that much to the potential for it s going to add that much to the potentialfor a it s going to add that much to the potential for a ceasefire. i think there are a lot of other variables in play. i “ust wonder where i other variables in play. i “ust wonder where you i other variables in play. i “ust wonder where you think h other variables in play. ijust wonder where you think this | wonder where you think this puts the united states. europe s top diplomats condemned the operation. someone at the eu call it a massacre and that operations like this should unfold. washington is reported to have given intelligence to support it. where do you think that puts the us on the world stage? with respect to this particular operation, based on the media reports, it sounds like the us knew about it and supported the idf with intelligence about the locations of the hostages and the has units, the features of the has units, the features of the buildings that had to be assaulted. so i don t think the us is going to denounce this particular operation, despite the high number of civilian casualties, because the us apparently had a role in supporting it, but getting back to my earlier point. the fact there were so many civilians in this camp and there were hamas fighters in it who were firing on the idf forces as the hostage were coming out of the building, underthe hostage were coming out of the building, under the rules of engagement, they were allowed to take those strikes. so i think we will continue to see this type of high number of civilian casualties if there are other attempted hostage rescue operations like the one we just saw. i rescue 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would withdraw politically and that would damage the coalition that prime minister netanyahu operates minister neta nyahu operates under. minister netanyahu operates under. the fact he has now not given this press conference, and perhaps this was a way of prime minister netanyahu calling the bluff on the withdrawal from the coalition. we ve also seen that the coalition is very fragile for prime minister netanyahu, and he has pressure on one side from people like benny gantz, and on the other sand there side, the far right end of the political spectrum, there were members of the coalition who vowed that unless israel continues on the path to what they claim is total victory against hamas, they are going to withdraw their support. on the other side, the far right. so there is pressure on all sides for prime minister netanyahu. minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. thank- minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. thank you - minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. thank you for. x will be us. thank you for with us. president biden has been hosted for a state dinner in france as a commemoration of the d day landings. there was a parade at the champs elysees. they held a press conference on saturday and during his speech, president biden also spoke about the war in ukraine, saying the russian president vladimir putin is not going to stop at ukraine. our two countries stand with the ukrainian people as they fight off putin s brutal aggression. yesterday i announced $225 million of assistance to ukraine, the sixth package since we signed the national security legislation earlier this year. i wish we could have done it when we wanted, six months earlier, but we got it done. $61 billion in additional aid to ukraine. and i commend france and our european allies for their leadership as well. the eu has provided over $107 billion in assistance to ukraine since the war began. because we know what happens if putin succeeds in subjugating ukraine. and we won t. you know, putin won t stop at ukraine. it s notjust ukraine, it s about much more than ukraine. all of europe will be threatened. we re not going let that happen. the us is standing strong with ukraine, with our allies, and with france. we will not walk away i say again, we will not walk away. in the uk, parties are back on the campaign trail following last night s seven way debate. the conservatives are pushing a permanent cut to stamp duty and labour is outlining its position on business rates. i lljust try and get the sign in! rishi sunak was putting a brave face on the events of the past few days. is this taking over from those fidget spinners? he was keen to move on from his d day apology with an announcement to make temporary tax relief for first time homeowners permanent. but his ministers were still having to fight on the political beaches. the prime minister has made a mistake, he s apologised for it and has apologised to those who would have been particularly hurt by it. so how has the prime minister s misstep gone down on the doorstep? we have been talking to conservative candidates, some have spoken about anger and disappointment. one of them despairingly said, whatever is going to happen next? will the prime minister s trousers fall down? others said voters haven t raised the issue at all, and one candidate said that those who are so vexed by this have already defected to labour or reform. elections are often about political theatre, but the snp say, in this campaign, the main westminster parties are sidestepping difficult decisions. the biggest issue that s not been spoken about is the fact there are £18 billion worth of cuts agreed to by the conservatives and endorsed by the labour party, and they are coming down the track towards us. but what about raising revenue? labour say, if they form the next government, then, just like the conservatives, they won t be able to increase tax thresholds in line with inflation any time soon. we will inherit the government s spending plans. i will be candid there - are in those plans tax rises. i mean, the personal allowance, the personal allowance we all. get in terms of our income tax, that is set to be frozen - for several years. but the lib dems are courting voters with spending pledges, including a multi billion pound plan to plant 60 million trees a year. this is a capital investment over the next five years. you re right it is a significant investment. but i believe this is hugely important for our environment. it will help the fight against climate change. the main parties are preparing to launch their manifestos this week. only then will we know how well their policies will connect with the voters. iain watson, bbc news. the wife of the missing tv presenter michael mosley says his family refuses to lose hope, and the last few days have been unbearable . joe inwood has the latest. just a few hours working on the hills of symi is enough to leave you exhausted. two hours. two hours? that is why there is such concern that michael mosley may still be up here after more than three days. the major search operation to find the missing broadcaster has today focused on the hills to the north of the village of pedi. so that search and rescue helicopter has been circling for maybe half an hour or so. there s been a huge amount of emergency services activity focused on those hills, and that s because we know from cctv taken at this spot that, on wednesday at about 1:30pm, two o clock, michael mosley passed this road and headed into those hills. the search is focusing on the hills because, finally, a picture has emerged of michael mosley s movements. he left the beach where he d been with his wife, clare, at about 1:30 on wednesday. he was then picked up on a camera at a coffee shop here. a second one at a restaurant here, and then, finally, the one at the marina, before he is thought to have headed into the hills. the disappearance of michael mosley has been a major story in greece. here on symi, locals have even joined the search, as have british holiday makers. this morning, she came in my room and said, let s go and look for michael. it would have been terrible. we know the paths, so we. we re just staying there. we re within 2km of where he s got to be, so it was, feeling quite helpless. at the heart of this is not just michael mosley, but his family as well. today, his wife clare released a statement. nor, it seems, will the greek authorities. they say they will continue their search until michael mosley is found. an american veteran who flew back to france for the d day celebrations got married near the beaches where the allies landed 80 years ago. harold terens, who is 100 years old, married his 96 year old fiancee, jeanne swerlin, in the small town of carentan les marais. mr terens was a radio technician, who assisted fighter pilots in the skies over normandy and called their wedding day the best one of his life. stay with us on bbc news. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start certainly quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the north west that will increase cloud through the day with some splashes of rain. and we ve got this weather front approaching the north west of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most, single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around ten degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start to have quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, south west scotland in towards north west england, north wales. and that cloud with splashes of rain will spill south eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far south west, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around, temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually it will do that. it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 1a degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. and before low pressure starts to move in from the south west, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come with a little bit of sunshine here and there. this is bbc news. we will have the headlines for you at the top of the hour, which is straight after this programme. the european union. a50 million people in 27 countries. la president! uniting nations, languages, cultures and economies into the world s biggest trading bloc, and a hugely important political voice on the global stage. but it has its problems, and among its members, there are very different opinions. this weekend, citizens across the bloc will elect members of the european parliament. who will shape the eu, as it faces defining challenges. so what are the issues driving this election? and what s foremost in people s minds as they head to the ballot boxes? welcome to europe votes 202a. hello and welcome from sunny lisbon, where we are coming to you from today. i m mark lowen, one of the bbc s europe correspondents. and over the course of this programme, we will bring new reports from across the continent as the election gets under way. but first, what s it all about? elections to the european parliament take place every five 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Witnessed two very different realities, regardless of how you view these last few months of death and destruction, what transpired if the city raises a series of questions regarding a collective failure to end the war to bring all the hostages home and to stop the indiscriminate large-scale killing of palestinians. saturday over 200 palestinians were killed in israel on a refugee camp according to the government media office marking one of the bloodiest single days we have witnessed in eight months of war. videos of the aftermath show streets littered with debris and dead bodies, some images to disturbing that we can t even show you on screen. one witness described the scene to reuters by saying, quote, it was like a poor movie but this was a real massacre, bombs rained down on nusirat, israeli security forces were conducting a raid in the same area, after the strike, francesca alba knees, the repertoire condemns the mission saying that although she was relieved that four hostages have been released, it should not have come at the expense of 200 palestinians, she called it quote, humanitarian, flaws at another level. today s raid marks the third is really rescue attempt since october seventh. they said a hostage was brought home in the immediate aftermath of the attack. two more men were rescued after forces stormed an apartment in the area and those airstrikes also killed more than 60 palestinians including women and children according to local officials. we cannot forget three is really hostages were killed by the israeli military back in december and that happened after soldiers mistakenly identified them as a threat and opened fire on them despite the fact that they were waving white flags. so for the vast majority of israeli hostages have been released through temporary cease-fires, not wanton destruction and killing of palestinians likely witnessed today. the successful rescue missions few and far between and taking massive tolls on civilians. how many innocent palestinians killed is acceptable to rescue is really hostages especially since more than 100 hostages are still the leaf to be held by hamas and their families also want to see their loved ones home safely. family members of the hostages have been adamant that the only way to return all of those being held by hamas is through a cease-fire deal. however a cease-fire deal remains elusive with some powerful cabinet ministers rejecting any such efforts. the israeli prime minister is now using today s operation to try to ease mounting political pressure on him to resign urging one of his rivals and members of the cabinet who is reported to be quitting, to now reconsider and today may be another test for biden who has pushed for a cease-fire deal and may find the newly emboldened prime minister is inclined to defy the american president just to prolong this war to the detriment of the remaining hostages in palestine. we will follow the story and bring you any news as it develops. from silicon valley to the halls of congress, this week we learned cancel culture is alive and well and some would argue, it s surging and in this country and its targets share one thing in common, we start in the tech world where a software engineer sued mehta, a former employee is now alleging that mehta discriminated against him and unlawfully filed them after he filed complaints that the company was censoring palestinian creators. the complaint says he was simply doing his job since his role including assessing the quality of testing filters as it related to gaza and ukraine. shortly after the piece went live the long reviews website was shut down, according to the publication student editors, they solicited the peace and they followed all of the normal publishing protocols however they say they were then pressured by the board of directors to hold publication of this academic article which accuses israel of committing genocide and upholding an apartheid regime, when the editors refuse the request, the board made up a faculty and alumni from the law school and they shut it down. meanwhile in the west coast, in an industry that has a troubling history when it comes to blacklists, a prominent marketing executive is raising eyebrows over a memo she sent to her staff, ashley margolis, told employees that they should, quote, pause on working with any celebrity or influencer or taste maker posting against israel. according to variety the firm works with many top talent and public relations agency and noted that margolis was particularly adamant about not working with anyone who has used the term genocide to describe israel s actions. margolis declined to comment, taking together, these stories show the high price that is levied by those who are speaking out no matter what field you are in or how accomplished you are in the field, talking about the devastation in gaza could cost you. this stands in contrast with another story from this week, the new york times revealed that the government has been waging a secret influence campaign targeting u.s. lawmakers since october, the campaign used fake accounts and websites to spread content and mainly targeted lack lawmakers. on one hand we have palestinian voices or those who speak up for palestinians fired, cancer, demoted, marginalized or shut down and on the other we have the israeli government, secretly spending millions to amplify their message to the world and this and balance in power, this skewing of the public discourse comes to mind, when you consider this, the israeli prime minister will be coming to washington to address a joint session of congress on july 24th, invited by a bipartisan group of congressional leaders including senator schumer who took to the floor of congress to denounce the prime minister calling him an obstacle to peace and alleging that he s been placing his personal survival ahead of his nation s interest. now, and what amounts to a political win for benjamin netanyahu, congress will be welcoming him with open arms. remember, this is the same man who addressed a joint session of congress back in 2015 for the sole purpose of subverting the nuclear deal that obama and then his vice president joe biden, were negotiating with iran at this. this is a man who has a history of meddling in domestic american politics attempting to tip the scales in elections towards republicans including trump back in 2016 and now this is a man for whom the international criminal court is seeking an arrest warrant for war crimes and the international court of justice possibly believes is committing a genocide in gaza. you may be wondering how it s possible that after all that we have witnessed someone like prime minister benjamin netanyahu is getting the red carpet treatment in washington. when the debate in this country and on this issue is so skewed in favor of one side and voices of dissent are stifled, we end up with an alleged war criminal to be welcomed with open arms by our elected officials to the heart of american political power. this case that you find yourself in, and i believe there is an update, the student editors at columbia law review who have been battling with the say that your piece is up on the website, it s titled as a legal concept. tell me briefly, what was so controversial about this piece that you wrote these things? thank you for having me, i can t sit here in good conscience and talk about my piece as if this was the focal point, here especially today as you reported over 200 people in gaza were slaughtered in the refugee camp. and there is a continuum between the material reality and gaza, the genocide and the silencing of palestinian voices specifically in the u.s. this attempts to silence in this case my voice but other voices, it s a reflection of dissent that s intended to manufacture consent, now, as for the article itself, the board of directors have attached a disclaimer or a statement basically on the home page of the columbia law review, trying to undermine the peace, allegations that were refuted by the student editors and in fact, the editors of the columbia law review have announced a strike so they are striking to protest the boards statement, to protest their infringement of the process and guarantee academic freedom and independence. you think what has happened here, what was done to your piece was meant to be a chilling effect for other you know, academics like yourself who want to advance legal concepts surrounding the rights of palestinians. i asked the same question, i think what is so scary about it, it s a scholarly piece, well substantiated and the fact that the board could not did they tell you any reason why, in either case did anyone come to you and say here is what we find problematic with your scholarship? in this case the board of directors shut down the website and they didn t even contact me up until today. so i haven t officially heard from them. i think it speaks more to their sloppy manner with which they are handling the situation. up until today they could not cite any claims against the peace, we worked on this for over six months editing back and forth and i think it s extensive and i m grateful for the student enters for the work and the professionalism that they extended. shamir, i wanted to talk to you about what you and your client are going through and what you are alleging, can you walk me through the allegations that you and your client are making on behalf of what you are charging meadow with? my client was a coveted software engineer, he was recruited by facebook at meta and he noticed that the account had irregularities, so he started looking into that account and he was told to immediately stop and within a few weeks, he was terminated simply because they said that he might have known, and what s absurd is he has not met with, and the sole basis for the rationale was because my client is palestinian, they must know each other. now apply the same process for any other minority group, it would be the equivalent of firing and african american engineer for trying to fix an issue with for example beyonci s account simply because they are both african american, that is literally their basis, he received excellent performance reviews for every year he was at meta and applauded for going above and beyond, and they simply fired him because they said he is palestinian and he shouldn t be looking at irregularities of another individual whose also palestinian. this is the first time meta has been accused of censoring palestinian voices. what have you learned about the company during this process, do you believe there was based on what you ve been able to learn, a systemic suppression of palestinian voices or do you think they were certain singularly targeting your client. let me provide you one anecdote. i recently learned that meta had an employer reece s fair where the muslim group had watermelons as decorations, and their booth was shut down, even though the flyer for the event itself had watermelons, because it s a summer event. that is the level of silencing that is going on for data employees, i ve heard from a number of current employees, a lot of investigations and another anecdote, they launched hr investigations for employees simply having the palestinian flag in their bio despite other employees having the israeli or ukrainian flags and their bio, this is targeted towards palestinians and these efforts at silencing them are having ripple effects for the palestinians who are still at meta and the purpose of our lawsuit is twofold, one, we want the employees who are still at meta to know that we support them and number 2, we want to send a clear message to meta, we are not afraid of you and you will not silence us. can you tell us about how your client is doing, given all the turmoil that he s had to endure as a result? he is extremely courageous, his name has been all over the media, and i think he is just one of many individuals but he is an individual who decided to speak up despite any ramifications, he s doing okay right now but his primary concern is for his former colleagues who are still at meta and have to deal with these issues on a daily basis. let me ask you about the double standards, when you see what is happening to you and when you hear allegedly, what s happening to, and you see the prime minister of israel getting the red carpet treatment into the halls of power, what, how, how do you reconcile this? you know i think it speaks more, for example, in the case of the columbia review, it speaks more on the board of directors, it s embarrassing on their behalf and i think it s shameful and you know, it exposes that fear in this country and i m proud to speak up and i m proud of my scholarship and i encourage everybody, whatever privilege they have to use this privilege to speak up. these are the times to silence palestinians and other voices who speak up against 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thank you for having me, i m excited to be on here with kimberly, i use the statistic that even with my harvard undergrad and my degrees, as a black woman and i am several times more likely to die of childbirth complications than a white woman with a high school education. that is how deeply embedded systemic racism is in this country and i m so glad the commonwealth research report exposed what the solutions are that we need, there are other high income countries that have you know more midwives and have paid family leave and so when i was giving birth to my children, i was so worried, i was scared because of those statistics because i knew that i profession, my level of education, i income, was not protective. kimberly, you cofounded kindred space, addressing the black maternal health crisis, can you talk about why postpartum care is actually so important and why it is being overlooked, nearly 2 out of three maternal deaths and the u.s. occurred during the postpartum period up to 42 days after birth. right, well thank you for having me here and thank you dr. blackstock for inviting me as well and thank you for talking about postpartum care because i think that people only about complications that can happen with pregnancy and in birth, but as soon as you give birth to a baby you are in your postpartum, and complications can happen immediately in the postpartum or further out when the patient has already been discharged and are at home. and one of the reasons why these complications are so problematic is because we don t have a very good structure in this country to take care of women postpartum, most people will be seen one time by their physician at about six weeks postpartum and unfortunately between birth and six weeks postpartum, there are many things that can arise including preeclampsia, that can present itself in the postpartum period as well as hemorrhaging, that can happen in the immediate postpartum but can also happen when a patient is already home and if she doesn t have access to care, she could die and that is what is happening, and i ve kindred space l.a., one of the things that we have done is to make sure that we had frequent check ins with our clients and we are able to do that because we are not following the insurance company s motto that says we are only going to pay for one visit, and this is part of the reason people don t get seymour often is because folks aren t able to get paid for seeing patients more frequently. let me pick up on that, dr. blackstock. what do you see as other core factors contributing to this lack maternal health crisis. there s a variety of issues that we have identified among them shortages in ob/gyn s but the broader usl care system where it s not accessible or guaranteed by any means, the commonwealth fund report mentions all high income countries it reviewed the sides the u.s. mandate at least 14 weeks of paid maternity leave from work, so it seems to be a total problem on many levels, is that correct? yeah these are systemic issues, policies we know that other high income countries have, and even the fact that kimberly mentioned, the presence of midwives, a lot of people in the u.s., even myself as a physician, i didn t know about the midwife in the child birthing process, i didn t understand that midwives follow birthing people through the entire lifecycle so this is what i did not learn in medical school in the u.s., the birthing process is very medical eyes and that s because of historical policies that pushed out midwives and centered care on physicians and the more physicians that are involved in the process, the more complications can arise, the more c-sections are likely to happen or other types of invasive procedures, so we need to look toward other countries and see how other countries are having a safer process, as kimberly mentioned, the postpartum support, i only had one single postpartum visit after i gave birth to both my children. that s not enough, we know most of those deaths happen in the postpartum period and for the states that need to expand medicaid, it needs to happen and it needs to be able to cover or than a year postpartum so that birthing people are supported. kimberly, i know we were talking about the systemic problems but what do you think needs to be done in order to address and bring an end to this crisis, what is your vision for the kind of healthcare system we currently need and what changes need to be enacted that we can do in the short term to bring the rates down as quickly as possible? that s such a great question and i m all about solutions, for me, it was for me to become a midwife, i had midwives for the birth of my children and i knew the care was much more than i was experiencing in mainstream healthcare and to that end, we need more models such as what we have in california, martin luther king community hospital in south l.a. is a great model, they are it with free lead and they take medi-cal and they are accessible and they have wonderful quality care, collaborative care and they are always under threat for closure, again back to the problem of proper insurance reimbursement, even though their outcomes are excellent, at the top of their game for california, the c-section rate is very low, they have problems staying open because the midwifery model isn t well integrated into the insurance system and they are running at a deficit every year, so they resented solutions, the policymakers need to work with these hospitals and keep this care available to people. dr. blackstock, final five, we are at a point where we are seeing abortion bans being enacted right now how do you see these crises intersect at some point? absolutely, ayman, this is a racial justice issue, the fact that we have these restrictive abortion policies, especially in states where there are already high mortality rates, there already are maternity deserts, meaning there are not enough maternal providers and, we know and a lot of these states, disproportionately people of color are the ones that are seeking abortions, so we need to make sure that we don t see worse rates as a result of these policies and that is something that i know a lot of reproductive justice groups are working on. very important conversation, we ve got to do something about it in this country. it is just unacceptable. thank you so much to the both of you. after the break, congressman byron donalds, and dan bishop battle it out for our worst of the week title. t known er, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. depending on the type of cancer, keytruda may be used alone or in combination with other treatments, and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it s time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. 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you put up a tough choice, but i m going to have to go with byron donalds, just for the sheer historiography of what he said like don t get me wrong, both of them are wrong in their framing of this, the ship tried to claim that having a tough jury pool like trump supposedly did in manhattan for his hush money trial is the same as segregation alabama, that s bad, what donalds said was making no sense especially the part that killed me was when he suggested during jim crow, black voters voted more conservatively when a huge part of jim crow was disenfranchising black people from voting at all. so, yeah, i will give it to donalds, because of just how little sense what he said makes. who is your pick? i will respectfully disagree with my friend hayes, and i agree with this, both are bad, both are despicable but i think donalds made a mistake like i think he could take back what he said. i think he wishes he could take it back because it was stupid to reference jim crow, part of what he was getting at was the rise in out of wedlock births among blacks in america, that s a legitimate interesting discussion but he didn t do that and he threw in jim crow and it just messed up and made everything he said wrong. ayman, bishop meant what he said and in essence, what did bishop say? he said donald trump is being treated every bit as poorly as black americans when black americans were discriminated against, segregated against, lynched and killed and institutional racism and our justice system. he meant it, bishop meant it, and that is atrocious to compared donald trump to that. very valid points there, joe, on the meaning of both, let me play for you donalds was on with joy reed, let me play for both of you what he said, listen. if a black man, a black father could not protect his wife, his son, or himself from lynching and violence, how is him being in the home team that that is an era that was better for the black family or that we should think of is a good thing. first of all joy, i never said it was better for black people in jim crow, i have never said that and my own words say that. so, it s remarkable, again, he is still denying that he said black families were better off even though we have the tape . he is the one that invoked jim crow and to joe s point, you know, he could ve said the 40s and 50s if he wanted to make an observation of the social behavior at the time but he decided to invoke jim crow as the reference point, you can talk about the economy and the issues but he decided to use jim crow as the contextual framework for the point that he was trying to make. absolutely, and he was trying to put it in the framework, to joe s point, i get that you may believe that donalds was misspeaking when he said jim crow, i take issue with the broader points that he was making as well, the idea that it was specifically johnson and welfare movements to try and help people. part of the reason why there was so much backlash against the welfare programs was because even though they helped white people a lot, there was a movement amongst the right to try and cut funds to welfare programs by convincing white people that it only helped black americans. there were so many things that were happening, divorce rates went up across the board, you have issues dealing with the way that even like the union worked and the way that employment worked in america, the way that you saw the rise of the war on drugs and that breaking up the black family, there are so many points that could have been brought in but donalds did none of that and he leaned on the idea that he leaned on the idea that things were better before. don t go anywhere, we ve got a lot more to discuss and we will do a second round of worst of the week and involves a guy named, well, we will tell you about it after the break, stay t with us. non-small cell lung cancer. keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies before surgery when you have early-stage lung cancer, which can be removed by surgery, and then continued alone after surgery to help prevent your lung cancer from coming back. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. keytruda is an immunotherapy and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. these days everyone is staring at screens, and watching their spending. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that s why america s best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping. in 99% of people over 50. and it could strike at any time. think you re not at risk? 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man, some hard-hitting stuff right there from dr. phil, my panel is back, joe, i ll start with you, dr. phil fancies himself an expert on mental health and yet he thinks trump is thick-skinned and isn t needy and does not need to be loved, did he get his degree from trump university, that is my question. i will avoid the question and i ll just say this, it is impossible, i mean impossible, to conduct a more sycophantic adoring, on your knees, cultish, interview than that. i mean, and, in your earlier clip, dr. phil said, i don t engage in politics. bull crap, that s exactly what he did, he got down on his knees to make donald trump look good. that was pathetic. hayes, this was dr. phil going on cnn and i kid you not, he thinks he made progress with convincing trump not to go after his political enemies, watch. i think i really made some headway with him that that is not the way to go. i think it s a process, i think he will turn this over and over in his mind and i don t think he will do that. i mean, who is this guy kidding? it s wild to say that. on several levels. first on the idea that he could get through to trump at all it was supposedly just an interview talking to trump and the idea that in talking to him, he is now less inclined to go after his political enemies, he has said he wanted to do it, we should believe him when he said he wants to go after his political enemies and it downplays, it self aggrandizing him, dr. phil thing i know he said it but i really think i got through to him also, it s funny how many times people who have interviewed trump have tried to be like okay but you don t really want to go after people to you and trump like no i really do. i really do. no, but no, yes, i promise i do and i really think we have to believe him. joe, i ve got one more contender, alex jones, the far right conspiracy theorist has agreed to liquidate his assets in order to finally start paying the $1.5 billion he owes in damages to the families of the sandy hook victims who he spread lies about, too little too late? is this important? too little too late, he s trash, i ve got to get back to this, hayes said it, look, this is fascism, trump is saying over and over and over, if he is elected he will go after his political enemies, this is fascism and it s embarrassing and dangerous that dr. phil and as hayes said, all of trump s media cheerleaders are trying to talk him off of this, we have to put a spotlight on it. how do you explain phil coming out of nowhere trying to get on this action? i think he has a new show to promote. we are talking about it. we would not be talking about dr. phil s new show if he had not done something as wild as ring on trump and say i got through to him on not going after his political enemies. tune in next week to see who else i can rehabilitate. unfortunately, it has worked, we re talking about it but only thankfully the context of, why it was such a bad idea. was in a bad idea to have him as worst of the week? not at all because ayman, it s a serious point, the serious point is trump is threatening to go after his enemies so use the joke that is dr. phil and all the others trying to get him off of it. i m not trying to belittle the situation because we laugh during worst of the week, i m trying to say, listen this guy is influential. millions of people watching, trump goes on his show and then just says blatantly that he s going to go after his political enemies and that is dangerous. thank you to the both of you, greatly appreciate it as always and thank you for making time for us at home. join us tomorrow night 7:00 eastern on msnbc, more all-out over the support for israel, major harrison man will join us to talk about his decision to resign from the u.s. army in test over the biden administration s policies in gaza. have a good night. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions. like what is your glucose and can you have more carbs? 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