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are currently at those bureaus right now because they are showing themselves to be anything but apolitical. >> mark: they lend credence to the deep state narrative, don't they? there is this troika of the most powerful figures with the most powerful secret agents in the united states at their disposal, when you w talk about brennan, clapper, and comey. and thee bennett they are out of office, they are basically the worstt kind of partisan hacks. >> it seems that way. with james comey, he doesn't need the money. he's fine in that department. whatd he needs is attention. he craves to be relevant. i think that is what he is doing this. now it is. resembling, really, much like the hillary clinton book tour, a public therapy session we are watching in real time. it seems like he is going through the same thing. by the way, the compton tour, that's not going well. she's down 13 points and approval since the election because of this t book to her hs going on longer than "cats" on
i've got with me now international litigation attorney and former pennsylvania state senator bruce mark. state senator. now put on your international attorney hat for me. you've actually taken some of the people named in the sanctions to court. namely, i'm going to, you know, try to pronounce these names for you. oleg darapasca and victor vesselburg. how badly do you believe these sanctions can hurt them? >> absolutely. and thank you. i did bring suit against mr mr. darapasca and mr mr. vesselburg, you know, it's widely considered that these folks have tied with criminal organizations in russia. and i happen to think that these sanctions are going to have a significant impact. russia, you know, there's a word troika, means, you know, the big three. and they've sanctioned darapasca, victor vesselburg and karimov. and all three of these people
from -- in situations like this in the past, he puts people around him he's most comfortable with. and experience is really a secondary characteristic. >> we certainly heard about the tensions between jared and advanta ivanka and the chief of staff. jay, do you think these three, this troika, will be able to last for any length of time under the same roof? >> there's just no predicting the trump administration. we've predicted the resignation of kelly, we've predicted the exit of rex tillerson, he's had one foot out the door for a long time and he's still there. so there's a lot of speculation that surrounds a lot of these issues where you just don't know
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behind the unverified trump dossier and russia. the attorney who held a meeting with donald trump junior in trump tower was secretly meeting with the cofounder of fusion gps, this gets more convoluted. a retired cia station chief who served in moscow joins us with more on this. trying to wrap my head around what this means. this is very important, right? >> a tangled web. he was one of the participants in the infamous june 2016 meeting at trump tower which i believe was a kremlin designed discoverable operation come you don't hold a clandestine meeting with a troika of russians, the relationship with the fsb, russia's internal security police, and oligarch, the son of an oligarch who is close to vladimir putin, soviet army officer, very discoverable
un lat ri we define it as a group with seven different countries. we're heading for a train wreck on american diplomacy that will damage u.s. diplomacy for years to come. >> rick, how is the state department and our secretary of state currently viewed by our friends overseas? >> well, our friends over seas don't fwhee to make of president trump. they were going to get acclimated to tillerson and then now they see this rupture in your earlier segment, it just cannot be a good relationship. i can't see how tillerson lasts that much longer past this first year as your previous folks said. people around the world are worried because if that troika gets unraveled, then you have chaos. >> gentlemen, thank you so much. by the way, everyone who needs
be. un lat ri we define it as a group with seven different countries. we're heading for a train wreck on american diplomacy that will damage u.s. diplomacy for years to come. >> rick, how is the state department and our secretary of state currently viewed by our friends overseas? >> well, our friends over seas don't fwhee to make of president trump. they were going to get acclimated to tillerson and then now they see this rupture in your earlier segment, it just cannot be a good relationship. i can't see how tillerson lasts that much longer past this first year as your previous folks said. people around the world are worried because if that troika gets unraveled, then you have chaos. >> gentlemen, thank you so much. by the way, everyone who needs the counter vailing view of
desire of people to leak is a sense of the culture of the institution. this will be the challenge for general kelly. how does he really alter the culture of the place to make leaks something that people just don't do. >> in fact, one of the things i learned as a young reporter covering the reagan white house where there was the so-called troika. three power centers in the white house. you had a strong chief of staff, but with three power servers, the leaks were wonderful. we revelled in them. this white house, you've got bannon, you've got ivanka and jared. you've got the political players that have now been experfeungee. all of these different groups. ned, you know, it's katie bar the door. and the president himself. >> that's right. it's going to be the problem when you have fiefdoms inside the west wing. this administration i think has