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probation officer all right 5:00 a.m. here in washington alive. look at capitol hill on this monday morning. good morning. everyone in kasie hunt, it s wonderful to have you with us. new details this morning about the israeli military operation that rescued four israeli civilians held by hamas this new video edited and provided by the israeli military appears to show some israeli soldiers escorting the rescued hostages toward military helicopters on a beach in gaza. these for israelis now reunited with their families and just beginning to recover from their months of captivity. among those rescued 26-year-old noa argamani, who is abduction during the october 7 attack was captured on tape. noa screamed for help as she was forced by hamas members onto the back of a motorcycle. and driven into gaza. the idf raid also resulting in the deadliest day of the war in six months. at least 274 people killed according to gazan health officials the idf disputes those numbers, saying that the number of casualties was under 100 cnn cannot independently verify the death toll and we don t yet know how many of those killed were hamas fighters and how many were civilians. but we do know that the hostages were being held in residential homes in a densely populated area cnn also learning this morning that some idf soldiers disguise themselves as hamas fighters and displaced palestinians to conduct the raid. joining me now to discuss, is cnn political and national security analyst david sanger. david, good morning. i m very grateful to have you here for folks just tuning in after the weekend. a very dramatic time for the israelis here at with this raid. how do you see the fallout here as we see these hostages reunited with their families, but we also try to figure out to count the dead among the palestinians good morning, casey. and i think you ve captured it right? it was an incredibly dramatic weekend. and i think there are three salient points about the rescue. the first is the operation itself was a miracle of terrific intelligence, great covert work, and getting in there and getting them out. then certainly something to be celebrated. there are more than 100 hostages left, but this was clearly a big win on saturday morning when when this all took place. the second is at once again, it came at a great human cost as many israeli operations in gaza have and this is the sort of brutal calculus of this, which is maybe it was under 100 pounds justinian s dead. maybe it was over 200 is a palestinian say, but the fact of the matter is that we saw a huge number of palestinian deaths in order to accomplish the long-sought release of these four and that seems to sum up much of what s happened during the war. i think the third thing we re discovering as monday morning rolls in here, is that after this dramatic weekend, the rescue did very little to change the fundamentals of the problem that is real faces benny gantz, the former defense minister and, and head of idf took a day off or pushed an extra day because of the rescue but resigned from the war cabinet shattering that view of unity and he did so saying that prime minister netanyahu who does not have a plan for the day after four administering gaza yeah, david, in fact, let me pause you there because i did want to get to that next with you and we have a little bit from gantz over the weekend and what he said, how he explained why he was leaving the war cabinet. let s watch sorry. can you regrettably netanyahu is preventing us from advancing toward true victory, which is the justification for the ongoing and painful cost of war that is why we are leaving the emergency government today with a heavy heart, but with full confidence i call on netanyahu, set an agreed election date. don t allow our people to get torn apart so david, he said there that netanyahu is preventing us from advancing towards true victory what does he really getting at here? because he also seem to suggest that netanyahu was unnecessarily prolonging the war right? this has been a long-held view, including among american officials that prime minister netanyahu knows that once the war is over, or at least a ceasefire takes place at the active fighting is done the investigations into october 7 begin in earnest. the intelligence failures israel obviously had a good deal of intelligence. this would happen that it did not respond to the idf s failures. that israeli defense force in responding that day. he assumption is that prime minister netanyahu couldn t not survive that and of course, one of the beneficiaries could well be benny gantz himself, who ran against the prime minister a few years ago, laws. but today is doing well enough in the polls, but it s not inconceivable that he could emerge victorious. also, not certain but what we re seeing now is the united states with benny gantz s help, tried to get the israelis to commit to what president biden called and israeli proposal for ceasefire and prisoner exchange and get hamas most importantly to agree to it may be difficult, more difficult it was difficult before the rescue. it may be more difficult now. and overnight, casey, the us has finally decided to go to the united nations security council with a ceasefire and hostage exchange proposal basically the one the president laid out ten days ago and try to get their approval of it to up the pressure on both hamas and israel very interesting set of developments here. david, very, very briefly does this move by gantz not pushed netanyahu farther into the arms of the right-wing and israel it does he s got a very narrow majority s holding onto. he didn t need gantz s party to stay in. he needed kansas credibility to some degree that deal with the us and the rest of the world. but if netanyahu agrees to the israeli plan which came out of the war cabinet, not out of the political atmosphere and the coalition. he s put together those right wingers have threatened to leave the government. 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in europe. the center-right european people s party now projected to be in the majority. protesters taken to the streets in paris sunday after the far right in france, scored an unprecedented 31 31.5% of the road. and the french president emmanuel macron dissolved parliament, called for snap elections situ in situation. one like it is a situation to which i cannot resign myself. the rise of nationalists and demagogues is a danger not only for our nation but also for our europe and for francis place in europe and the world. they don t all right, joining us now is cn an international anchor, max foster who joins us now, live from london max, good morning to you. this is a bit of a complicated situation for folks in the us who don t necessarily follow the ins and outs of the european parliamentary elections. but big picture is that we have seen kind of a across the continent these far right parties surging in a way that has really concerned the sort of center right? majority governing parties. and it so much so that you saw emmanuel macron take this pretty significant action. it s a risk for him to do this. why is he doing it and how does it help explain the big picture of what we re seeing here? hi, a lot of people quite baffled because off the back of a european election where in france at least the far-right, did extremely well he s now going into another election. he called it and it s going to benefit the right. many would argue because they can ride on that momentum, but he is effectively saying he wants to hand it over to the french people who he believes are generally moderate. and of his point of view. so he can prove that the european election, which is often a protest vote for european voters, won t actually hold in a national election. so a massive risk, and i think even the people closest to them realize that, but we ll see he, how marine le pen does out of that steadily over recent years she s been increasing in authority and power and she s doing what many of the european parties are doing, which is focusing on immigration. and ukraine and also environment. but on this basis that really resonates with a lot of people, which is that the cost of living is getting worse and worse inflation s going up. we can not afford to do all of those things. we have to hunker down a look at nationalism. and i think if you look at the overall parliamentary picture, then the moderate still hold it. but in the key country, the big economies, france, germany, and italy, the far right? excelled. so it s going to have a huge influence. yeah, we can put up on the screen for people to kind of see in color the way that this broke down in france. so let s set aside the yellow that s other, but that red piece which is clearly the most significant one for a named party, is the national all rally. those are the right wingers that 15% purple that you see the renaissance party, purple, blue. that s macron s party. and max, to be clear, we saw something similar play out in germany and in italy can you talk a little bit about how this strengthens the more right-leaning leaders who are in office in europe well you know, it s already got a right-wing prime minister. so she s empowered and marine le pen, as i say, he s been climbing steadily in germany. a lot of people would view that party. now the second most powerful party in the country as traditionally a very far right party. so it has huge influence because germany and france and italy are the three countries that have most influence over the european union i was interviewing a us expert based here in the. uk earlier on, and she was talking about how this will empower trump effectively. a lot of the wright was rising in europe before trump, but chump managed to popularize a messaging and they ve adopted a lot of that. so he certainly added energy to the rise of the right here in europe and it also means that the more senior these right-wing politicians become, the more contacts and power he has within europe. so it s very empowering to him and his foreign policy. he creates alliances specifically for him within countries which were traditionally us allies. so it has a it will have a big impact on trump if he gets into power and it will cause a problem for biden if it gets into power bi, it s going to be much less supportive of him and his policies going forward. yeah it s an interesting way to think about it. and i also think one of the things that donald trump has done that we remark on it, but i think perhaps not enough. and that is to normalize things that previously were considered out of bounds. and the politics and the way we re thinking about politics. and you can really see that in some of these right-wing up pushes, bringing things in that previously were considered to be verboten are not acceptable on our stages. max foster for us in london, max. thank you. always grateful to have you alright, coming up next cleveland police trying to uncover the origins of a 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hamas fighters. and palestinian civilians during the operation the operation did come at a great human cost. scores of palestinians dead, just how many? we don t know. gaza s health ministry says the numbers, at least 274. israel says it s fewer than 100. i am joined now by joel rubin. he is the former deputy assistant secretary of state in the obama white house. joel, good morning to you. wonderful to see you this morning let s start with the raid for people who are two doubt on a summer weekend, just waking up to this news, these four hostages rescued this clearly was something that i mean israeli families of hostages have been increasingly more and more upset about the fact that their loved ones have remained in captivity. what does this mean for them? yeah, it was a dramatic rescue without a doubt and have very high costs as you described with a palestinian loss of life what it means is that the israeli defense forces for a day for a moment, restored confidence in the israeli public about their capacity to deliver and to get their people out. but in the big picture, the best way to get israeli hostages out has been through deals, through a cease fire for hostage exchange, like one that we saw back in november. so a good day for israel, a unity didn t last long. obviously, the politics in israel very, very dicey with benny gantz. now exiting the coalition government. but it was something that the israeli public has been demanding. and now they want more action. they want to see the prime minister lean-in on getting a deal to get these hostages out. of course the toll here was very high in terms of palestinian life. it all so served to highlight some of the tactics that hamas uses talk a little bit more about where these hostages were found. and why there was perhaps so much collateral damage. obviously, much of it should be laying at the feet of the israeli forces that invaded here. but that s not the only thing at play, not at all. the case you re right, it was despicable. display of how hamas d values palestinian life. so many very clear these hostages were held in private civilian homes they were there for months and they were in the midst of what everyone in those areas new was a civilian areas. so israel, by finding these individuals, by rescuing them, it was clear that there were going to be civilian casualties. hamas doesn t care about palestinian civilian life. i i know we ve talked about this before, but this is perhaps one of the most a stark examples of that. if they cared about palestinian civilian life, they would be agreeing to the ceasefire proposal that has been out there and discuss secretary blinken s going out to the region to try to push for this, but in the meantime, hamas is embedding hostages in civilian areas with the clear understanding, this will cause palace let s see any civilian lives for a propaganda bonus may be for hamas, but i don t see how this is a real bonus for anybody in the middle of this conflict. they clearly are not looking at civilians as something to protect inside of gaza. so let s talk big picture for a second. you mentioned benny gantz, of course, announcing over the weekend and he s going to leave the war cabinet. he is, of course, someone that the us has really relied on in the course of these negotiations in this push for a ceasefire that president biden actually announced on a recent i ve friday. here s what jake sullivan, the national security adviser, had to say over the weekend. let s watch keith thinks the best way to get all of vestiges home is in a deal where they re brought out diplomatically, where there s no need for military operations to get every last hostage out. what we would much prefer to see is a ceasefire where the hostages come out peacefully. that is available. israel has said yes to it. now hamas needs to say yes to it. that s where president biden full effort, energy and attention is so bottom line, draw what s the holdup? while the holdup is hamas? the holdup is that hamas is i want to agree to a ceasefire that essentially pushes them out of the power. and that s the genius of this proposal, which is that it lays out a roadmap for preventing at the end state of resurgence of hamas in the gaza strip. and now that, that is, of course, very frustrating as well to the white house, because what we re seeing is the far-right ministers in israel s government rejecting that proposal as well. and now with ben against leaving the coalition it gives them a little more power in the near term, but it also puts the question to the israeli public. and i think this is why the president did go public with his proposal to get the israeli public to recognize the stakes, to put it back in the political arena. this question about how to end this war in a manner that we don t see a hamas resurgence in gaza and so the holdup right now is that hamas understands this proposal is against their interests and that s why we see the secretary going out. that s why it s frustrating that it s not yet done. but hamas, they re hoping for more days of violence, like on saturday where they don t have to make this agreement. and that means more palestinian lives are put at risk. machel rubin for us this morning, joel, always appreciate your experiments for being here all right, let s go now to politics. donald trump, tried to win over voters in nevada. a key swing state with his first official campaign rally since he was convicted on felony charges i tell you what? no third world country has weaponization, where they go after political candidates, like we have either this guy can get elected anything without cheating. the only way he can get elected is to cheat so all of those folks in during triple digit temperatures as trump rally them in an outdoor event in las vegas, nevada. of course, one of a handful of states that could help to decide the presidential election this fall, a new cbs poll shows trump in a virtual tie and a head-to-head race with president biden, both nationally and in these key swing states. today, trump is scheduled to have a hearing with his probation officer ahead of his sentencing next month in new york, cnn s learned. today s interview will be virtual with his attorney, todd blanche president trump me now to discuss nicholas johnston, the publisher of axios nick. good morning. great to hear so yeah, probation hearing for a presumptive sentencing name. you d sentenced you just read off the teleprompter there, i think speaks to the kind of interesting election where in, where that sentence one interest hide across as the country tied and state sentenced to one of the candidates will have a virtual interview with his probation officer. today yeah that s seen as pool. actually interesting because it s one of the first things, places where we seem to see maybe a little bit of movement. obviously the official way we talk about it is that it s tied. there s no clear leader, but there is a little bit get over movement toward biden compared to where this pole previously was. what does that tell you? it s pretty clear across the board that again, within the margin of error is and all of these poles we ve seen a slight polling bump four biden, and then a lot of the surveys were the vast majority of people say that conviction won t have any impact. there is 20, 30% of republicans who say it well, and remember, we ve been talking about for months and months it s in a month. this is a very tight election for donald trump to win. he needs to get more voters and he needs to get the last time. and so far, being convicted of a felony in new york is not leaving more voters for that. but again, all of these are the margin of error. it s like going from trump up to two biden up one that is essentially a coin flip election still. yeah, it is yes. very, very, very close. so let s listen a little bit to some of what trump had to say in this rally over the weekend because is there are a couple of things that stood out to us, including how the former president talked about, well, i mean, he he always uses very often inflammatory language about joe biden. but in this case, he was talking about suicide as well let s watch this du are there this is a front row joe. he said everyone this guy wouldn t it be incredible. he s gone to 250 if he voted for biden, even for by now, i don t think so. i think it would be suicide before by dry a bit extreme i don t know how a front row you thought about that. i think we re seeing that this is trump being trump, like they re even though there s a big conversation a lot about how much will they stick to the issues there s pulling out over the weekend that shows what a strong conjugation issue the economy is as opposed to conviction. and so can trump come out and just talk about the economy and immigration for the next six months. i think that little snippet shows that will been a challenge for some of the president s former president s advisers. they gotta to do that. yeah, let s talk about nevada specifically for a second at trump also was up there. this is sort of a typical line, but he said it in front of it. a crowd. again, it s a very heavily hispanic at stateless watch. what trump had to say about hispanic and african-american voters joe biden is also weighed. you re going all out war on the workers have america, especially african americans and hispanic in america i spanish americans and african americans are the ones suffering most with his incredible illegal alien group that s coming in so this is, this is pretty typical for how trump talks about this kind of thing. but i think what s going on in nevada is particularly interesting. i will say i have okay to a lot of sources recently who think that it actually may go for trump. this time around and it s part of it s part of the reason is because of some of the themes that he is talking about. there, there are a lot of workers that tourism economy, cassino workers, who in the past had gone for democrats who may actually go republican this time you hear this was a big, i mean, again, this is a point-slope election. there s a lot of things happening that people don t really understand because this is such a different election than ones previously. and i think one of the ones that republicans are trying to capitalize as those capitalizes, in row on minority voters with hispanic americans or african americans, as well. that s clear on the polling data that donald trump is doing better with those groups in previous republican candidates. and i think his campaign, his advisers, he, that is a huge, massive opportunity. again, the same way that if a small amount of those republican voters are moved by the conviction, if a small amount of minority voters are moved by some of the present former president s economic arguments that the election right, they re all on the line. all right. nick johnson for us, nic, always great, to have you. thank you 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after spending eight months and kennedy e-tivity when of course it s very motion to be back in his word to meet their mother. unfortunately, my there is very very sick and i m not even sure if she understood that noise here. that s the bet. that s shows that when the camo send people were kidnaps, also the families were kidnapped. and we see and we also almog father yossi meir funeral was last night and he did not he just died. a few hours because he received before the news that design is about no, i cannot disclose personal information, but i can say is that also in general and she s in a much better shape than what we were well, concern. there are not only psychological, but also physical issues related to captivity. i bought her personally the. last says that she needed for eight months where she had to use contact lances. obviously, it s not good for eyes and it s now she has struggled because, you know, a massive is so sick so with the joy, joyfulness of coming back home, and she cannot be completely happy and with friends, 120 the hostages, including friend, had been done while still in captivity can you give us a sense for the others who also were rescued, what their physical condition was like, what their mental state was like, and what the coming months you re going to look like for them so i ll morgue and why and shlomi, were together for long period of times. i must say this zero resilience and zero support of each other. i ll remarkable. it s really showed us what the human spirit can do. and, you know the stress anytime in captivity could be your last moment it sometimes it s the small anecdote as they talked each other languages. and andrei i taught them rushing and zealand the some arabic. i m saying together with all the physical and mental and other assaults, it s also very they re showing in a sense to see how they will able to cope with the situation. which reminds me, you know, the story is about cml gut with the student at the hebrew university where i teach 42 or therapy. and she provided yoga lessons for foil mates in captivity. we don t know what is going with her right now. it s clear they will need a very long recovery process shlomi cannot return to his home up in the nose because there is well, when gonzaga and is home is attacked and it will take months and the ears, it s also for the house. the other families. it s great joy, but the concern is enormous. they cannot really the release hostages. they cannot really full when they know that their friends are still there. and i must say with some void because because today in the israeli parliament, the families of the hostages were attacked by the extreme right-wing members of the parliament, which in a way told them that they should be sacrificed i m sorry to say that and we we know that the only way to get all the 120 hostages back dead or alive is by a deal. there was a deal that was put on the table by president biden, and i think it s all of us and i m through your show, i want to deliver to the world. we must put the pressure on the hamas and it s allies to accept the offer and to stop the bloodshed and released all those just because all of them are entitled to go back home. all right a professor hagai levine for us this morning, sir. thanks very much for your time. i really appreciate it thank you very much case. all right. time now for sports, the boston celtics. now just two wins away from a record-breaking i think 18th nba championship. after rallying and then holding off the dallas mavericks in game two of the nba finals coy wire has this morning splits your appoint coin. good morning. thanks up of the morning to uk s see the celtics faced pressure all season of past play off failures and being the league s best team. but it looks like they have what it takes this time around masdar luka doncic pre-game was all wrapped up in ice and up was potentially going to miss game to with everything from his chest to his knee banged up, but he did go any did register struck triple, double, 32 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists for the celtics, just too much. one of the unsung heroes, jrue holiday clamped down deif calls himself for utility guy, but it leaves a team in scoring last night with 26, he was nine for nine in the paint and watch this effort. maths have a chance to bring it within three with under a minute to go. but jaylen brown and derrick white hustle block the shot. brown finished with 21 white and tatum 18 celtics take a 2-0 series lead with a 10598 when here s a two-time awesome an olympic gold medalist holiday, or what makes this year celtic so special i think when you sacrifice together, you do something together brings you closer i think being able to go through wins and losses and to build something it means a lot. i think the best with this team has done from from one to 15, somebody sacrifice something. so it s been great in the journey has been awesome, but i ve been in the day the judge and scottie scheffler has been through it all over the past month. de and his wife, meredith, welcoming their first child his arrest at the pga championship in louisville, then having the charges dropped yesterday, he found themselves back on top winning the memorial tournament, finishing eight under its fifth win in his last eight starts, his first wins is baby bennett, though. scheffler, full of emotion after the win that s pretty fun it s one he s getting sunburned out, looks like but it s this tournament is a very special to us and it will be for a long time because this the future of tennis is in good hands with 21-year-old carlos alcaraz, who rally from being down two sets to one to claim his first french open title. he s now the youngest man to win a grand slam on all three surfaces running around like the tasmanian devil, bewildering alexander zverev on the famous play algorithm, falling to the ground and victory then had gone over to give mom and dad of big o hug. he said he s been dreaming of winning the french open since he was 5-years-old. finally, caitlin clark park is commented on not being picked to play for team usa at the paris olympics next month, the indiana fever rookie phenom, who has helped shatter women s hub s viewership and attendance records so being left off the roster will only make her better listen honestly, no disappointment. i think it just gives you some them something to work for. you know, that s a dream hopefully one day i can be there and i think it s just a little more motivation. you remember that and, you know, hopefully in four years when four years comes back around, i can be there. i m going to be written commando it to win gold i was a kid that grew up watching the olympics. so, yeah, it ll be it ll be from the washington or fever coach christie sides said the kaitlan, texas sinner about not being selected, casey and she said they woke a monster. the us women are seeking an h street gold at the olympics and they don t have any players currently on 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raised in a traditional nuclear family do better on virtually all parameters. trey: dr. ben carson come of the book the perilous fight, he is a book about our soul. thank you for joining us on a sunday night. a pleasure, thank you soeat much. trey: yes, sir, i hopdinge yu have a great week ahead ands we thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. as we say good night, i want to say a special word of thanks for those who sail across the ocean to liberate a continent,al especially those who did not seallyhose back home. one of america s crowning achievements, d day, the 80th anniversary. next week you can find us online @gowdyamerica.com or carley: a brand new taxpayer funds high rise set to open with luxury amenities like views, gym and cafe. the rooms are reserved for homeless and wait until you hear the price tag. todd: probably high. this rhode island calamari chef was featured as face of the blue state s economic comeback. now he says he is voting for former president trump and he will tell us why. carley: take a look at this. c oh! oh, my gosh. open the gate, boys. carley: your eyes did not deceive you. bull loose at the rodeo, landing in middle of the crowd. we will show you the wild video. you are watching fox and friends, i m carley shimkus. todd: the producer has video of my kids this week. carley: sometimes it feels that way. todd: i m todd piro, busy monday morning. former president trump hitting vegas holding his first rally since his new york conviction. carley: madeleine rivera joins us with deil tas, good morning. madeleine: former president trump s event in las vegas capped his western i think sw. he raised millions in california and rallied voters railing against his conviction and touting his poll numbers in nevada. hundreds of thousands of people contributed, they know wouldn t have except for the court case. poll numbers are higher, because people are watching and know a fake deal. were we better off four years ago or no? it was not close. now democrats are coming over, we are really the party of common sense. madeleine: fox news polls show president biden winning th there. he made news by saying he won t charge taxes on tips. trump denounced the president s border policies, important issue for voters in the state. beincrooked joe signed order pro-invasion, pro-child trafficking, pro-women trafficking. it is weak, ineffective, it is what he signed. if joe biden truly wanted to sign an executive order to stop the invasion, all he would need to do is say i reinstate every border policy of a gaming named jay bha donald trump. madeleine: requesting documenting from florida censorship marco rubio, strat cyst called him an effective communicator who appeals to suburban and independent voters that will be key to trump s success. he did not mention on stage, trump endorsed sam brown, leading candidate in the gop senate primary race calling the purple heart rescipient. he will take on jackie rosen in november. todd: definitely one to watch. senators tom cotton and j.d. vance on the v.p. short list, here is what they are saying about the possibility of being selected as running mate. he will make a choice when he is ready to make the choice. i m focused on helping him win this election so we can reverse damage joe biden has inflictod this country for fearer yoos. we ve had conversations with the trump team, i have not spoken with the president directly. i want to help donald trump get elected, it is important he become the next president. todd: j.d. vance will joan fox and friends live. carley: trump set for virtual probasis hearing. after a jury convicted him, former president could face prison time or probation, this interview will help decide that. it is next step. juan merchan will sentence trump on july 7. carley: will the definitelies in the hunter biden case call the first son to testify? todd: brooke singman has more. brooke: abbe lowell telling the judge, we are down to that last decision. the we have heard from hunter s daughter, gordon cleveland, the gun store owner, as well as several of hunter s former lovers, including hallie biden. in text messages exchanged between hunter and hallie, hunter describes waiting for a drug dealer and smoking crack on a car. the jury will be tasked with weighing whether or not hunter lied when he checked no on the federal gun form in 2018 stating he was not addicted to drugs at the time of the. president biden says he will not pard en hunter, but that could change. i think he will pardon hunter. if you think about it, there has been questions about joe biden s behavior in the past, alleged business dealings and the like, one could see scenario where joe biden pardons hunter biden and associates so they don t turn state s evidence against joe biden. brooke: the jury could head into deliberation as soon as this afternoon. todd: caitlin clark addressing her snub from the u.s. women s olympic team, which sparked outrage, why wouldn t we want the most popular woman in the sport on the team. carley: social media anticipate building community for everyday americans and protecting children from bad actors online. i m all ears. the founder and ceo is here to tell us all about, that is coming up next. we ve never spoken. but you ve told us many things. that you love stargazing, hate parallel parking, and occasionally, your right foot gets a little heavy. the lexus es didn t begin in a studio it began with you. 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yeah, thanks for having me on this morning. hedgehog is about putting the community in charge. what is different and sets us apart. on hedgehog, you earn respect. so when you see other social media incentivize and focus on building that exposure, we are about building conversation and building a community. todd: get into more of this community. you say community is in charge, not a back smoke-filled room of 22-year-olds making elite decisions. how does that work in practice? yeah, on so what we do is when there is some issue where people say, does this content belong on the platform, we put that to the community in terms of democratic vote. the community is in charge. basic safeguards to protect the platform from getting derailed, in addition the platform is in charge. other platforms focus on giving small group and central authority position complete control of the narrative and that is wrong. todd: hedgehog does not allow minors at all. pew research found 95% of teens ages 13 to 17 and as young as 8-12 used social media. why do you have a no kids p policy? studies show effects of social media on teens specifically are causing increased amount of depression and suicide is largest cause of death for kids between 13 and 17. i think i don t think there is a place online for kids until we figure out how to create a place to do it safely. we re focused on adult issues, we want to get people talking and get debate going online. let s not introduce another problem and figure out way to move forward and set an example for other platforms and say kids should not be on our social media or others, as well. todd: the others, congress is trying to force the sale of tiktok, that is about the chinese communist party and less about the kids. you see them trying to regulate, but do you think congress should step in and ban social media for anybody under the age of 18. with regard to tiktok, a lot had to do with kids, they were calling congress once tiktok put out an aslert saying they are trying to ban up. that upped the ante. i think there should be some sort of regulation protecting kids, not sure what it should be, it should be on a federal le level. i really think something should come from congress to say, hey, there is something going on with social media and kids, we need to do something about it. great conversation to move forward. todd: as a parent, i want to see it. hedgehog seems interesting. fox corporation, parent company to fox news media is a hedgehog investor. keep us posted. thank you. to basketball now, wnba star caitlin clark taking high road after being snubbed from teen usa oslympic basketball roster. they called and let me know and i appreciate that and they did the same for every girl that did or didn t make the team. it gives you something to work for, that s a dream. i hope to be there. more motivation, you remember that and hopefully in four years, i can be there. todd: that is literally the perfect answer. carley and i said clark says she is looking forward to taking time from competitive action. i get that, she s been in the spotlight a lot. they couldn t fit her in out as 12th woman in this case to make sure they got attention they have been getting throughout women s basketball. carley: the reason they gave, they left her off, they did not want fans to be disashes pointed in her lack of playing time. it does not make sense. turning the snub into a positive and motivation. todd: switch from women s basketball to rodeo, wild ride at the rodeo for this crowd. a bull leaped over the fence into the stands. oh! oh, my god. open the gates, boys. todd: maybe fence should be higher, we have the rest of the video after this. carley: and new york times predicting what a second trump term will look like, diving into radical policies like securing the border and trade policy, joe concha will respond that to article next. my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia, started disrupting my day. td felt embarrassing. i felt like disconnecting. i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ingrezza ingrezza is clinically proven for reducing td. most people saw results in just two weeks. people taking ingrezza can stay on most mental health meds. only number-one prescribed ingrezza has simple dosing for td: always one pill, once daily. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington s disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have thoughts of suicide. don t take ingrezza if you re allergic to its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including angioedema, potential heart rhythm problems, and abnormal movements. report fevers, stiff muscles, or problems thinking as these may be life threatening. sleepiness is the most common side effect. take control by asking your doctor about ingrezza. ingrezza have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? 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oh, that is right, he was met until 2021. he will secure the border, especially if senate is flipped. we know his economic policies gave us one of the greatest economies we ve seen in our lifetime. that is not opinion, that is fact. if you look at it, we may not be bogged down in wars that seem to have no end. and we ve seen fearmongering, these are news reporters, one of the folks on the byline is maggie haberman, who has written anti-trump books and talks about how horrible donald trump is. new york times have not endorsed a republican presidential candidate since elvis was a thing in the 1950s, that is what you should expect. todd: surprised jonathan swann is on this. that is the way the paper is goings. cnn fire for saying israeli hostages were re not rescued, but released. cnn, you should be afraid, what a disgusting headline. is this a mistake from a saturday intern working summer hours? we were all there and worked the shift. or is something more happening here? joe: say it was an intern working on a sunny afternoon in june and mixed up released from rescued. you see the chyron on the screen. it could have been corrected, somebody could have gone on the air and said obviously lives were rescued. they were not released by hamas. we will not see this, that is who this newspaper is. carley: incredible news they were rescued, including that girl noa, who became the face of the october 7. president biden wrapped up his trip to france with a speech yesterday and confused ukraine is iraq. president biden: we have become semiisolationist now, the idea we had to wait to get money for iraq, it is just not who we are, not who america is. america shows up when we need it. just like our o allies show up for us. carley: the white house fixed the gaffe, crossed out the word iraq. joe: same president who said russia invaded russia on two occasions, go back and read that transcript, read the robert hur transcript, he did not remember he was vice president or when his son died. i think offense to newspaper saying trump refused to visit the same cemetery where joe biden was visiting this morning honoring those lost in world war i. determination is made by marine corps and white house military office in collaboration with secret service. i keep seeing reports trump did not want to go there in 2018, he could not go there, the weather did not allow it. get that is the record. that is who joe biden is, clean-up on aisle five, 17 and 24, debate is everything on june 27th. can he last without a script or teleprompter. carley: he will be in italy later this week for g-7 and have plenty opportunity to speak there. todd: this video out of organization, rodeo showing a pull breaking loose. my gosh, jumping over a six-foot fence into the stands. oh, oh, my gosh. heads up. open the gate, boys. todd: open the gate. four people hurt when the bull leaped over and landed on people in the crowd. this is not a puppy, this is a bull. rodeo says the bull was heading back to the handler pen. he was under control within a few not ms. everyone is expected to be okay. carley: the bull wanted a good show. todd: stay in the animal kingdom. carley: let s do that. back-to-back shark attacks at t tourist hot spot left two teens and a woman injured with a woman losing an arm. the attacks happened at two beaches four miles from each other. this is just weeks after officials named florida as shark bite capital of the world. a shark expert and director of the coastal marine experiment station joins me now. doctor, good morning, this is scary. not something a beach goer wants to hear. shark attacks are happening more and more often, is that true, and if so, why? thanks for having me. that is the million dollar question. everyone is wondering what is going on here, these are random and rare eventing. if you look at where we are with these incidents, there are no more than 10 years ago. there are more people in the water, it is hotter out and there is more interaction. carley: if you are in the water and come face-to-face with a shark. don t paneck, when we splash, look, that attracts sharks. slowly exit the water. sharks don t want anything to do with us in the water. carley: if you do come upon a shark in the water, worst case, punch the shark in the nose, is that true? no, i would highly not recommend that. exit the water really carley: good point. how faftz can you punch in water? some people say sharks are misunderstood creatures. what can you tell us about sharks we might not know? one thing about sharks we don t know, most don t know, to keep our ocean clean, we need them. people enjoy going to the ocean and like to eat dead and dying animals. they keep it clean. they allow us to enjoy it. we are visitors in the ocean and something we need to realize when we go to the beach. carley: our producers said people are not on a shark s menu, iffy woo were, there would be more attacks. just usually sharks confused in the water. thank you for joining us. todd: so glad you asked the punching question. carley: exit the water calmly if a shark is swimming at you. todd: i m dead, when is last thing i did anything calmly. carley: new he rise with luxury amenities, views, gyms, cafe, rooms are reserved for the homeless. cheryl casone is here next. todd: california businesses are not getting the same treatment at all, what impact is $20 wage having on fast food industry? 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well, it s not, not really, no. look, it is tough. you have two issues really. you have the fact it was done almost overnight. you have the fact 25% increase in rage rate, both of those things happening simultaneously is really hard thing for restaurant s bottom line and you are seeing the effect of it. todd: fast food is viewed now as a luxury. you and i remember we would get a big maz, $4 or $5 with a coke and fries. now we are talking $12 or $13, not just in california, i have seen it in connecticut. look at numbers, do minimum wage laws, the reason prices are increasing, in addition to inflation. will they price fast food out of ex existence? look at what mcdonald s reported a couple weeks ago, prices are up 40% since 2019, costs are up. you had dramatic increase in food cost, labor cost, insurance costs are up, lending is up, construction costs are up. that requires companies to increase prices and result of this is that fast food has largely lost its reputation as a value player and that is what has been going on and result of this, consumers dine out les often, not going to mcdonald s or other places often as they had been. todd: cheap and convenient way to feed a family of four, we are so far beyond that. this is a meal out that you need to budget for. thank you for your insight. four years ago, speaking of food. that guy here, calamari chef went viral for his appearance the 2020 dnc. now he says he is voting for donald trump. he will tell us why. carley: lawrence jones is here to tell us what is coming up on fox and friends . lawrence i want to hear that, maybe prices of food or economy and inflation. watch fox and friends first to see. thanks. coming up on this jam-packed monday morning, hunter biden is back in court today, will he testify? 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right. absolutely. absolutely. look at the prices of homes. you know, you can t buy i feel for the kids that my son s age and stuff like that who want to buy a home right now. they have to pay overinflated prices and high interest rates: and going to crush them. need to make a ton of money more so than they are making right now or what i m making right now. you need more money to stay on top of the things. everything is going up in price over and over. carley: let s talk about the restaurant where you are the head chef at iggy s boardwalk. tell us about it and i m sure inflation is impacting everything, is it impacting the prices on the menu as well? absolutely. you see the prices going up on a weekly basis, sometimes a daily basis. even fluctuates, special the commodity stuff seafood. i purchase weekly, daily, and i see the prices go up. some prices have come down a little bit but nothing major. and it just forces us to have to raise the prices on the menu or maybe cut back on something. just to, you know, not gouge the customer. we want everybody to come in and have a grateful meal and enjoy themselves about not having to worry about the bottom line. carley: after seeing your appearance four years ago. you said your wife said hey, you are going viral online. you are like what is viral? what was that whole experience. got on the beach in the all black holding the calimari. i was called by my boss dave ravine know who is another trump supporter. he says to me, he was away visiting his son at college. he says to me i need you to be at work 9:00 tomorrow morning they are going to do a photo shoot with some representative rhode island something to do about biden. i need to you make a platter of calimari for them. i get in lady looks me up and down uniform on plus the mask. she said you are going to be in the shot. she said what shot you? are going to stand there and hold the plattedder of calimari. i was wondering how we were going to hold this thing or prop it up. we are going to put you in the shot. i did. from there it became iconic. the rest is history. carley: their seconds until fox & friends. i didn t know this before calimari is rhode island s official appetizer. really quickly, what s the best way to serve it? nice and crispy with pepper, hot pepper rings, garlic and olive oil and a little bit of aregular know basil. carley: just the way we like it. do you approve? todd: oh, man, i m going to run out right now. carley: chef, thank you very much. have great day. thank you. you too. carley: sounds delicious. fox & friends starts right now. have a great day.

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, that is something that can be appealed on the law. if there are legal mistakes that were made. the jury was instructed improperly on the law, is evidence was kept out that was material, improperly. those kinds of things can be appealed and it can take quite some time. so there is recourse there. so it s really complicated. let me just say, thank you so much to our incredible team. it is really great to be here, nerdy out with lawyers and all of us having been in the courtroom. thanks so much for your perception and insight and personal stories. and thank all of you for spending the last hour with us. if you can t get enough trump news, and you want to take even deeper, try the msnbc podcast, hosted by mary mccord and me. have a great night. okay, a joe biden and donald trump spent their time this week a little bit differently. one was overseas speaking forcefully about defending democracy. the other was here at home, talking about all the ways he intends to dismantle it. the co-chair of the biden- harris campaign and he is coming up first plus a working exclusive from nbc news just in the last few minutes. donald trump will sit down with a probation officer tomorrow andrew wiseman is going to tell us what to expect. also today, four it s really hostages rescued, and scores of palestinians killed in the process. we ll talk about where things go from here. later, two trump loyalists is installed in the house intelligence committee as the former president is the has. the ranking democrat on that committee, and my guest have some thoughts. overseas. it s one of those things that may feel very far away, in more ways than one, it s not wa something that warrants as much as your attention as issues that they may be grappling with at home but this was different because biden s trip to normandy this week to commemorate the 80th anniversary of d-day was an important reminder of why the values of the leader of the free world really do matter especially today. isolationism was not the answer 80 years ago and is not the answer today, the autocrats of the world are watching closely to see what happens in ukraine, to see if we let this illegal aggression go unchecked, we cannot let that happen. to surrender to bullies, it s simply unthinkable. i mean those words you just heard from president biden have always been true and in delivering his message the next day the president also sees the mantle of the guy who used to be the hero of the republican party now all of you history buffs out there likely caught this in the moment but biden s speech was delivered at the sp very same spot where president ronald reagan famously renewed america s commitment to freedom and democracy 40 years ago. that wasn t an accident. and to hear both of them now side-by-side, you would think they are almost completing each other sentences as they speak about the sacrifice of those ab brave soldiers and the role of american leadership in the world. the rangers who scaled this cliff didn t know they were changing the world but they did. let us show them by our actions that we understand what they died for. ha they are asking us to do our job, protect freedom and defend democracy. democracy is worth dying for because it s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. we often talk about the ideals of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but we don t talk about how hard it is. how many ways we are asked to walk away. we have learned that isolationism never was and never will be a response to tyrannical governments. does anyone believe spthese rangers would want america to go it alone today? let us continue to stand for the ideals for which they lived and died. president biden and reagan disagreed on a lot but all of this is just a reminder of how aligned both political parties have been on core principles for decades. because this is the brand of american resolve and values that presidents are known for, on both sides of the aisle, s most of them at least, with one obvious exception, in stark contrast with president biden, donald trump is selling and apocalyptic vision of america and here s hoping the voters forget the values that have long made our country great. he sees a path to victory not by celebrating the country he wants to lead but by denigrating it. we ve become a failing nation, we are a nation in tremendous trouble. we are in a failing nation right now and it s only getting worse. we have a very sick country, we are a failed nation. the truth is donald trump couldn t really care less about preserving the values that the united states has long stood for through many presidents of both parties and this campaign isn t about preserving our freedom, it s about preserving his own, not about upholding american rightness, it s about staying out of prison. this is why the country trump disguised is virtually undescribable by the one that was by reagan and biden and ga those in between. the pride and optimism is now an long gone in the republican party. trump is the same guy who couldn t be bothered to pay hish respects at an american cemetery in france, the same me one that biden visited just this morning. trump is the same guy who called the veterans who sacrificed their lives, suckers and losers, that s a direct quote, just let that sink in for a moment. right now, we are five months away from the presidential election and there s a big choice out there between one candidate, who knows america is already great and another, who calls it a failure, one who honors our allies and one who heralds our enemies, one who wants to uphold the legacy of d- day and one who wants to squander it. when we are presented with the contrast that contrast with the stakes as high as they are, we all need to take note. joining me now is national culture for the biden/harris campaign, mitch landry. i want to start out with what i laid there. what struck this week was of course the echoes of reagan, it s a urclear reminder to me a many people of how far from our american values trump s values are and part of the message is about fighting for something bigger than yourself as these rangers did. so i wanted to ask you, what is the campaign hoping people watching from home, people who are just tuning in, may take away from the speeches that the president gave this week? it s great to be with you and thank you, i was mesmerized by the trip this week commemorating the 80th anniversary of the most heroic day in the history of the world those young men scaled that incredible battlefield and fought tyranny and the president went there to remind americo what sacrificing for democracy really looks like but he was standing on the shoulders not just of ronald reagan but of franklin delano roosevelt and of course, general eisenhower who was a ge supreme commander who later became the president who was a republican. and here s the big idea, america is the greatest country that ever was, and it s because, we ve built on the greatest idea that we all come to the table of democracy as equals and we have to defend democracy against autocracy. for some insane reason republican party now has as its head, a guy that wants to turn that idea on its head, become an isolationist, get rid of nato, that has preserved peace over time and it is true based on donald trump s actions in the last couple of years that democracy is at risk abroad and at home, and you ve seen it time and time again so this e election is a real decision between autocracy and democracy and notwithstanding the fact that trump is now a convicted criminal, somebody declared to be a sexual abuser, now somebody who s considered to be having judgments against him, this man continues to talk in a way that is completely antithetical and unhinged from what the world knows about america and of course what americans value in themselves so this choice is a choice between a guy that gets up and who thinks about the american people versus a guy who want to tell you everything in the world is going to hell because g that s what he sees when he looks in the mirror. there are key moments in elections as you and i both know, the debate is of course one of them that s coming up in 18 days, i m the first to say, there s a lot of business to do, draw the contrast that you just said, and remind voters but one thing everyone is watching us how the president will talk about trump s convictions, you just um referenced it. it s part of his story. we learned trump is going to sit down with his probation si officer tomorrow. how will the president talk about all of this in the debate in 18 days. can we just stop on the fact, i ll talk about the debate in the second but a guy that wants to be president of the united states has to sit down with his probation officer, that is just an astounding statement that sometimes people walk by. i don t think most americans are going to walk by that, we can always have a debate about how big the country or small it should be but at the end of the day the president of the united states is a person is supposed to have wisdom, character, judgment and he s supposed to reflect the best that america has to offer and when you put these two men next to each other, and in my opinion, it s not much of a choice, even people who disagree with some of joe biden s policies have tod agree that his character, his wisdom and his judgment are just much more reflective of great american values and i believe during this debate joe e biden will take it to donald trump. remember he s the only politician standing that s ever beat donald trump, he bit beat him by 8 million votes, trump is a loser, and at the end of the day biden has debated trump and beat him twice. i m fully confident that the president will do the same thing on election day. when americans have to choose between the right way to do things on the wrong way, they are going to choose a future for america that make sense for who we ve always been and who we want to be. i definitely don t think we should whistle past the probation officer meeting. i m glad you called that out. chris christie had debate advice basically saying the president shouldn t engage about his record or his family, what do you think about that? which president is he w talking about, trump? because when his lips are moving of course he is, he s giving advice to joe biden, about ignoring trump s lies and his attacks on his family, biden s family members in a debate, what do you think about that? i understand that, listen, the president, joe biden, everybody knows about his story, before he was even sworn in his wife and child were killed and two of his sons were left, biden went home every night and took care of those kids, one of the kids subsequently died as you know tragically from brain cancer and hunter as you know had a huge problem with substance abuse. the thing that draws me to the story is not about hunter biden, he s not running for bi president, donald trump is running for president but what it tells me about joe biden is joe biden is a great human being who loves his son unconditionally, even in his son s darkest times, joe biden has never left his son behind. so people who talk about joe biden in a way that makes him look old or something like that, he shows up every day, fighting for people and fighting for this country. that s the joe biden who is going to take it to trump and beat him in the debates and the election. donald trump is a loser. the american people are good people and they don t believe this country has gone down and they will lift this country up with joe biden. always a pleasure talking to you, thanks for taking the time this afternoon. thank you, jen, good to be with you. a bizarre facebook post about a juror letter from judge merchan and a friday night rc freak out over something that can be absolutely nothing. more on the breaking news that trump will sit down with an interview with a probation officer tomorrow. andrew wiseman is coming up next. we will be right back. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it s time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you d like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. far-xi-ga here s a bit of a mystery and intrigue late friday, in a letter to the prosecution and the defense team, the judge find a post on facebook from a user who claimed to have advanced knowledge of the jury s decision. the post said my cousin is a juror and says trump is getting convicted, thank you folks for all your hard work exclamation point. nbc news has not verified the claim and the post has been deleted but it sparked a temporary frenzy of speculation about the potential of juror misconduct. if a juror really did share information with a cousin or with anyone, it could give trump a pretext to contest the verdict but there s some reasons to doubt the credibility of the claim in the facebook post. the user describes himself as a professional trash poster but he used a different word. and a subsequent post told people to quote take it easy suggesting that his online commentary is intentionally designed to cause a reaction in other words, it seems there s a good chance this was just a prank. of course, that didn t stop trump from seizing upon the post to jesting the verdict was unfair. he weighed in with a single word, mistrial and trump s allies of course like sean hannity got a little ahead of their skis. okay, was the fix in from the beginning, is this cause for a mistrial, i would assume a motion for mistrial is being written as we speak. that s not cause for a mistrial, i don t know what is, that s what sean hannity says, joining me now is andrew weissmann , okay, we are going to take a quick rake and we will be right back. right back (dad) we never thought that with (dad) we never thought that with verizon, saving on the best in entertainment was gonna be so easy. 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so i m actually a little surprised that in that five week trial that was so high- profile that we haven t had these issues before. i ve done a whole series of profile matters, there s always allegations with respect to the jury, both sides were reporters or people up to no good, doing research on the jurors, allegations come out whether they were honest in their statements to the court in connection with the jury selection process, or whether they started deliberating before they were supposed to or something that was alleged to have happened during deliberations. there s almost something where you lose jurors or there s some kind of allegation afterwards and judges have to deal with that. and so, i ve been surprised that we kept all of the jurors for the entire trial and you know, there are a lot of bad actors out there with motives to try and do research on the jurors and that has not happened. this has all of the indicia of being fake including the person basically saying that recently, that they were trash posting, again, i m using their words, their own words, so it doesn t seem like this is anything, the judge did exactly what you are supposed to do, make sure that both sides are aware of it and now it s donald trump s team, if they wanted to submit something on it, they can, i don t think this is the one for people to go down the route of fox news clips that people were playing. i just wasn t surprised by this i was more surprised with the fact that it hadn t happened yet. that s an important reminder and obviously there will be more and more efforts to try and do this right before we came on the air, there was an exclusive reporting by nbc news that trump is scheduled for a zoom interview with the probation officer tomorrow, it s over zoom which i think isn t typical but how do you expect this to go and what are you watching for? the manner is certainly not normal, usually it s in person, not by zoom but you can imagine because of secret service, et cetera, that accommodations have been made, this is one where donald trump really, it s his to lose, you know, there s nothing wrong with his telling a probation office i didn t do anything wrong and i m not admitting guilt and i m planning on appealing, that s every dependent, they have a right to do that but if you start saying the kind of things that he s been saying during the trial or after the trial and attacking the jurors and the witnesses the judge, family members, to foment an anti-law enforcement sentiment, that s not going to go that well, to say the least. he will also be asked a lot about his personal finances in terms of paying a fine, he will be asked about whether he is associating with criminals, and it s kind of remarkable, it s just the kind of thing that you focused on with your last guest but he will have to talk about whether he communicates with roger stone, steve bannon, remember those people have been found guilty by a jury and are felons themselves, so that s another area where the probation department could ask questions. now when you say it could not go well, what could be the impact of this meeting, what will we care after it s over? this is a standard part of sentencing where the probation department, they re sort of an arm of the court and they give a private confidential report to the judge, so we will not directly see it, we may hear about it through the parties, but this is a report that s given to the judge, both sides should have access to challenge any statements, but it s basically allowing the court to learn more information about a defendant, in connection with donald trump, you could be saying, well how much more, what more do they need to know. but he has not been through this process and so this is part of what probation does with any defendant and most are not well known to the sentencing judge, but here, there are as i mentioned, the, well like associating with known felons, that s not something we heard about directly, i could imagine a judge or at least probation being interested in his statements with respect to jurors and witnesses and what if anything he s planning on doing in connection with that regard. andrew weissmann, always grateful, thank you for dealing with the technical issues and just being here. there s a story that s been on my mind, i mean the summer olympics as you all know is coming up, it s 50 days away and right now course the focus should be on the athletes preparing, getting their city ready, paris, to host the world but russia has other plans. according to an intelligence report, they have fired up there this information apparatus in an attempt to undermine the upcoming games and of course france. it s worth noting, russia is banned from competing due to their ongoing invasion of ukraine. but this disinformation campaign seems to have to clear big objectives, the first is denigrating the international olympic committee and the second is creating the expectation of violence breaking out in paris like this big fear mongering tactics that we ve seen before. so how are they doing this? according to report, beginning last summer, pro-kremlin social media account began promoting a series of videos including a feature-length documentary attacking the leaders of the international olympics committee called, olympics has fallen, the stake documentary is narrated by an ai generated voice of tom cruise but tom cruise had nothing to do with it, his voice and likeness were basically stolen and its intro even spoofs or imitate netflix and their iconic branding. pro-kremlin actors use the site, cameo, to deceive american celebrities into recording videos and edited them to make the videos look like endorsements for this fake documentary. a tactic by the way the kremlin backed actors have used to push anti-ukraine propaganda around the world and it all sounds a little sophisticated, pretty sophisticated and kind of hard for average people to make sense of and differentiate but that s why it s so dangerous. it s all just a piece of putin s effort to undermine the paris olympics. they ve also pushed fear mongering videos pretending to be legitimate news sources in order to dissuade people from coming to the olympics and one particular clip, impersonating a french broadcaster, the russian created disinformation falsely claimed 24% of purchased tickets for olympic events had been returned to two fears of terrorism. russian disinformation actors produced fake press releases posing as none other than the cia and the french intelligence service warning attendees to stay away from the olympics due to again, alleged risk of a terror attack in fact one larger aspect of russia s campaign dubbed, doppelgdnger is focused on cloning spoofs of reputable media outlets making it so much more confusing and using those fake sites to push pro-russian disinformation. some of the most worrying disinformation has looked to impersonate militant organizations and fabricate threats to the games admit that tensions felt around the world due to the isreal-hamas war. it appears also these images may have been ai generated. microsoft did not observe any confirmation that the graffiti exists, suggesting the images were likely digitally generated. what s important to remember is this kind of russian disinformation is not actually isolated to the paris olympics, we ve seen similar operations before here in the united states for years, of course the kremlin targeted the 2016 presidential election and there s no doubt they are attempting to interfere again leading up to the 2024 election and for the last several months i posed that question about that threat and the threat it poses over and over again to current and former security officials and this is what they have said repeatedly. i hope our intelligence community is equipped to respond maybe better than we did in 2016 but they will come through with this election. the russians have proven themselves to be adept at interfering and hippie has a chance he will do it again. do you think they will intervene in our election again? 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good to be with you, jen, the rescue operation was a remarkable operation, you know, in the tradition of israeli special forces going back to the raid, where they rescued civilians from a hijacked airliner in africa. but the answer to the question is no, there s simply no way you know, these operations succeed because of explicit planning, luck is not always on your side, anybody who needs a reminder that, you just watch the mogadishu operation so that s not an option, the only option is of course, for all parties to agree to a cessation of hostilities and a release of hostages and you know, i know that bill burns and others are working on that but that s a heavy lift. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is addressing congress next month, and the united states and even leaders in israel, have been pressing him for a clear plan on how he will end the war and what will happen in gaza on the day after. he seems to be ignoring these please, while also proceeding with the military campaign. is there more leverage that the united states should be using to push benjamin netanyahu to make the plan and what you hope to hear from him when he is here next month? yeah, i mean of course there is more leverage, and it s terribly painful to talk about much less apply, right because israel was attacked here and i ve been critical of the way they have conducted the war and there s plenty of room to be critical about that but at the core of this is the fact that there s no way for israel to win this, purely militarily, hamas, disgusting terrorism though they may be, have a vision for a future and it s a dark and horrible vision but my complaint with the prime minister apart from the way he s conducted this war without enough attention to the humanitarian situation is that he has offered no alternative vision, he shot down the concept of a two state solution. you can t win this unless you put forward some sense of hope for the future on the part of palestinians, if you don t do that, they will adhere to the disgusting and dark vision that hamas or others offers and it s time for the prime minister to actually engage in what the future of the palestinian people might and should look like. which he seems resistant to do. let me turn to the intel appointments because you ve spoken about this a little bit. i believe you have a great deal of respect for the chairman, turner, it sounds like he learned about the appointments of the committee through news reports, have you talked to him, is that true? i don t want to get into my private discussions with the chairman. one of the reasons i don t want to is because chairman turner and i have worked hard to reestablish the intelligence committee as a context where we are laser focused probably never more critical job of making sure the intelligence committee is doing what it s doing. in the service of that i m not going to open fire on these two new appointments but i will just observe that for generations, speakers of both parties have appointed the most serious minded, the least flammable and volatile members and now we see the appointment of two people with a history of i would argue putting donald trump s interest ahead of the national interest. i won t go further than that because i m going to give them the benefit of the doubt whether they deserve it or not in the service of trying to keep this committee functional but you know donald trump from the moment he became president showed his disdain for the intelligence community as well as the truth that they are all about providing to power, so this is very concerning particularly when you saw congress and perry s statement about now the committee will finally do real oversight, what a real insult to chairman turner so fingers crossed, but it s not a happy day for me, anyway. it s such an important point, the intel committee, they have historically worked together to address so many important issues and such an important tradition, thank you so much congressman jim himes for taking the time. next, abortion was just the beginning now republicans are setting their sights on birth control. i will talk to a republican lawmaker whose bill to expand access was blocked by her own party. we will be right back. right ba. known for nights to remember. known for creating memories. known for strong family ties. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda-approved for 17 types of cancer, including certain early-stage and advanced cancers. one of those cancers is a kind of bladder and urinary tract cancer called advanced urothelial cancer. keytruda may be used with the medicine enfortumab vedotin in adults when your bladder or urinary tract cancer has spread or cannot be removed by surgery. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation, or have a nervous system problem. keytruda is an immunotherapy and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com, and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. i m gonna hold you forever. i ll be there. you don t. you don t have to worry. with the freestyle libre 3 system know your glucose levels. no fingersticks needed. all with the world s smallest and thinnest sensor. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. try it for free at freestylelibre.us everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. rsv is out there. for those 60 years and older protect against rsv with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache, and joint pain. i chose arexvy. rsv? 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i try and put my feelers out and the only thing i can think of is that it s a lot easier for the base to just go along with the base as opposed to understanding and and i think that we lose it sometimes when we think that we are representing all of our constituents, not just the ones that are our party base so i think that has been forgotten a little bit. i was maybe never able to pinpoint it, why the efforts continued, but anyway, just again, it s not rocket science, there is science to it, the contraceptive actually prevents pregnancy and i don t understand why that is so complicated. you just noted why it s so important for people to have access, what do you make of this pattern that is happening in your state and other states where there is efforts to block access to contraception or to bills like yours that are trying to protect women s rights? we just passed legislation to make marijuana legal in our state, right, there are millions of women in this country, why is this a topic that we are preventing access to contraception? i understand in missouri we are a non-abortion state and i m very pro-life but we need to make sure we are giving women the tools that they need to prevent pregnancy and this should not be a fight in this country, they should be easily things that we make a priority for. i think so many americans would agree with you, women, men and others so thank you for joining me today. this story stuck out to me and i really wanted to talk to you about it. i got one more thing to tell you about before i go today, we are back after a r quick break. quick break. known as a loving parent. known for lessons that matter. known for being a free spirit. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. depending on the type of cancer, keytruda may be used alone or in combination with other treatments, and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. 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alive. look at the white house on this bright nearly summer morning here in washington. good morning, everyone. i m kasie hunt it s wonderful to have you with us we begin with that stunning hostage rescue operation in gaza. and the deadly consequences the israeli military freeing for captives from the grip of hamas on saturday watched this video that the israeli military just released this video is edited and it appears to show israeli forces so as escorting rescued hostages toward military helicopters on saturday, those for israelis now reunited with their families and beginning the recovery from months of captivity. among those freed, 26-year-old noa argamani, her abduction during the october 7 attack was captured on tape. you may remember seeing get at the time, noa screamed for help as she was forced by hamas members onto the back of a motorcycle and driven into gaza. she would spend the next eight months there. the rescue operation marks the deadliest day of the war in six months, at least 274 people killed, hundreds more injured according to gazan health officials the israeli military is disputing those numbers. they claim the casualty count was quote, under 100. cnn cannot independently verify the death toll and we don t know how many of those were civilians. we do know that the hostages were being held in residential homes in a densely populated area. cnn also learning this morning that some idf soldiers disguise themselves as hamas fighters and displaced palestinians to conduct the raid. let s bring in our panel alaimo plot calibre. she s deaf writer for the atlantic. jonah goldberg, co-founder and editor in chief of the dispatch a new york times journalist, lulu garcia navarro good morning to all of you. thank you so much for being here. joanna, let me start with you on this because this raid pre-stage, some turmoil, political turmoil in israel that also played out over the weekend with benny gantz resigning. clearly, it also highlighted this raid. some of the tactics that hamas has been using in the course of the conduct of this war. yeah, i mean, what would you say tactics, sleep, and highlighting the reason why the casualties are as high? i don t believe the hamas health ministry and they keep you and keeps revising down their numbers and there s always, you should never trust them immediately after any operation. but the same time, a lot of innocent people died. and the reason a lot of the dozen people died because, because they hide hidden these hostages in the middle of concentrated civilian centers. and when israel tried to rescue them, they got involved in a 360 degree firefight. and the weird reaction from a lot of the international community and the media is simply that sort of how dare israel try to save hostages that were stolen from it? and i don t have a lot of patience for i think what critics are addressing is the fact that israel is one of the most well-funded militaries in the world. it is one of the best trained and if the united states military, for example, did array to rescue hostages because and had this high casualty count, there wouldn t simply be applause. it also be congressional hearings. and i think a lot of people are concerned and rightly so for the high casualty count, i mean it is important and everyone celebrates the fact that these hostages were rescued. but at the same time, palestinian life is equally as valuable. and so people are upset about it, of course, but how do you look at the reality that there is a ceasefire plan on the table right now, the president biden put out there that would release hostages. it would end the fighting, it would prevent a lot of what the carnage we are seeing and we are waiting on hamas right now we re not only waiting on hamas well, so waiting on the israeli government, i mean, this is a two-way street bibi netanyahu has also shown himself to be less willing to engage in some of the some of the planning for this ceasefire. and we now see that benny gantz and has resigned simply because he has no more patients with the leadership of bibi netanyahu. we ve also seen the israeli public have very little patience with the leadership of bibi netanyahu. and on your show, we even heard hostage family members say that they want this ceasefire to go forward and they feel the israeli right and the hard-right, which is part of the bibi netanyahu government, isn t actually playing ball with this. so i think it actually makes a ceasefire less likely that benny gantz is pulled out, then more likely because now bibi netanyahu is beholden to the very right flank of his own government. let s take a look at what benny gantz had to say. this is of course in hebrew mean it s, it s translated when he, again the sort of further to the left. so in the center portion of this war cabinet that as lulu outlined, may end up pushing things farther to the right. let s watch what gantz had to say it s only me regrettably netanyahu is preventing us from advancing toward true victory, which is the justification for the ongoing and painful cost of war that is why we are leaving the emergency government today with a heavy heart, but with full confidence i call on netanyahu, set an agreed election date. don t allow our people to get torn apart and of course, gan says comments coming as the administration here in the the us continues to put pressure on the israeli government to accept to move ahead with this ceasefire and call on hamas to accept it. here was jake sullivan, the national security adviser on with us over the weekend, watch ti thinks the best way to get all of the hostages home is in a deal where they re brought out diplomatically, where there s no need for military operations to get every last hostage out. what we would much prefer to see is a ceasefire where the hostages come out peacefully. that is available. israel has said yes to it. now hamas needs to say yes to it. that s where president biden s full effort, energy, and attention is so alaina, how is the us government thinking through this at this point there s so many moving parts with this right? now. of course, you have secretary blinken in the middle east trying to galvanize netanyahu and the farther right forces to get behind this deal. but what i think the implications of this could mean if bibi netanyahu remains reluctant to kind of push for it as hard as blinken with like for him to what does this mean for netanyahu s planned joint address to congress? that s supposed to take place later in july. you ve already heard nancy pelosi within the last couple of days say that she does not agree with the decision to bring him here for this joint address, and you know, the outcome, i think of these talks could affect how members of congress, especially on the left, are feeling with his presence later this summer, right? we re going to talk a lot more about those throughout the hour, but up next here will here won t he all eyes on a hunter biden trial to see if 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nine live on cnn and streaming on max welcome back. this morning, donald trump is scheduled to meet virtually with a probation officer for a pre-sentencing interview. as judge juan merchan ways the punishment for the former president s historic hush money conviction in an effort to prepare a pre-sentence report, the probation officer is likely to ask trump about his conviction his employment, and his criminal history. you could even interview family members and friends before next month sentencing but trump campaign assuring everyone in a statement, quote, president trump and his legal team are already taking necessary steps to challenge and defeat the lawless manhattan da case my panelists back, jonah goldberg, i think i m a little bit still kind of like wow, i m really reading a script that says all of these things here in the year of our lord, 2024. yeah. all i can think of is the seinfeld were george gss stands at once to keep his girlfriend in prison because it s much easier relationship wise where you notice where she has all the time and he just keeps about telling the probation officer yeah, she could start about getting back to her schemes with the gang just to i don t know. you could think you d see at some that people in trump s orbit might talk to the probation officer in ways that are not convenient to drama. yeah, it s a very strange place. yeah. yeah. let s see if our production team can dig that up. we can play it on the way out of this block but i mean, in reality, this is, we re starting to see some of the earliest signs of how this is going to affect things or not. there s a new cvs yougov poll. our official cnn parlance is that this is to close. it doesn t show anything one way or the other. but if you compare it to the previous poll, if there s a two-point swing in job biden s direction. do you think that that is significant and not significant. i like when we got 146 days or something totally auction i think a lot of this stuff is just going to become fuzzy memory is baked in. i think i actually don t think the fact that he s a felon is the thing that s moving the polls to the extent that they are. i think it s just the reminder of the chaos that he brings. and this is one more example of it that is problematic for people if the elections are referendum on donald trump the polling suggests joe biden win if the elections are referendum on joe biden, the polling suggests donald trump wins. it s very hard for things not to seem like a referendum on donald trump when he s meeting with his probation officer. i mean, i think this is a sign of how week president biden is that with all of the problems that we re seeing with donald trump, i mean, he is a convicted felon i mean, there was just a hush money trial about porn stars and all these things. every time he speaks, you re just hearing over and over again. the same talking points and and this destructive language. and yet the polls are so close. and so i think that really does speak to president biden s weakness and i think what we re seeing is that people are not adverse to the message of the democrats. they don t like the messenger and that s president biden. yeah. i m i m impressed that last time the two of you were sitting here next time? each other, i think it was a little spark here, but john is not. the first time since 2016 where we have two candidates so unpopular, each of them has a chance to lose to the other so alaina we heard from trump over the weekend at this vegas rally. and of course the next sort of looming legal issue for trump is going to be his supreme court case. they ve got to decide whether he s immune in the january 6 prosecution so here s what he had to say at trump had to say about jack smith the special counsel overseeing that probe at this rally, watch what they ve done is they ve weaponized the department of justice. the only thing they didn t understand is that we just had the largest fundraising effort. it a period of one week than anybody has ever had. i did nothing here. we have a deranged individual named jack smith. he s a deranged that dumb guy is at dumb son of a so that s where we are with trump. and jack smith s what is, what is your reporting under eychner, you talked to members of congress, et cetera. what do they say to you about how much the january 6 case might make a difference with voters as compared to what we ve seen with the manhattan case. i haven t heard anything from members of congress or aids that they expect to make a huge difference necessarily. but i think glistening to the clip of that rally, just confirms when trump went to vegas his sort of isolated efforts to appeal to possibly persuadable voters fuels. so out of place in a way, i don t know if you all remember, but when he was down there, he was trying to appeal to the culinary union to say, you know, once i m president, i will get rid of taxes on tips and whatnot and the culinary union immediately fires back with a statement. this is a family. we take real candidate seriously not false promises, but just even trying to kind of put forth and advertise a policy proposal fuel so out of place now with the trump, who you see on stage 97% of the time, we should also say the culinary union is hugely democratic organization that campaigns for democrats in the state. but nevada is so interesting because of course, is because it s gotten latinos he s trying to appeal to that demographic tina swing towards trump from latinos especially working class latinos. and so the message, i know it sounds frankly a little ridiculous coming from him because he doesn t deal in policy. he deals in emotions and yet, i mean, i think he is finding a more fertile ground even when it s just a small little snip in a longer speech, i will say when i talked to sources about what s going on in nevada, i think that they would not be surprised if trump wins. yeah. yeah. fall. all right. coming up next here, the us releasing its 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multiple states across the west this morning while south florida is bracing for heavy rain and flooding this week, are weatherman derek van dam. has it all for us, derek, good morning. good morning. he building once again for millions of americans this time we re focusing our attention on the central valley of california from southern nevada, right through arizona including las vegas and phoenix. in fact, speaking of phoenix, you ve had 14 consecutive days where the mercury in the thermometer has climbed above 100 degrees. so what is happening? it is a ridge of high pressure, so that brings out maximum sunshine suppresses the cloud cover, and we get the heat that is going to soar into triple-digit territory, vegas, palm springs, phoenix, even sacramento. in fact, las vegas, you ve had the warmest start to june ever since records have begun since 1937. the other big story coming out of the state of florida korda, you know that you ve been in drought conditions for much of the southern half of the peninsula. but watch what s happening this week. go forward. this is the rainfall over the next five days locally up to ten inches across the southwestern portions of the florida peninsula, including naples and fort myers. it s all thanks to an approaching cold front tapping into abundant moisture from the gulf of mexico. and that is going to bring multiple days with the potential of flash flooding. casey, back to you all right. derek van dam for us. derrick. thank you very much. all right. coming up next here, new details about the rescue of four hostages from gaza and how israeli soldiers pulled it off plus caitlin clark speaking out after being left off, team usa i voted button my rainbow kitten. it s like your generation has evolved past traditional political symbols room for everyone. yeah first, puke rainbows. why taken with fast signs, creates striking custom visuals that inspire prime hey, district wide that s sides. make your statement bleeding gums are serious, 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with those liquid caps that make relief hey, your pepto cnn central next how do we end? the, death of civilians in gaza. but there is only one way does it get to a comprehensive ceasefire and hostage deal? that s what president biden laid out. hamas accepting that deal would bring an into the tragedy in gaza. white house national security adviser jake sullivan continuing to try to put pressure on hamas to end the war in gaza on saturday, israeli defense forces executed an operation in gaza that freed four hostages from hamas custody. however, at least 274 people were killed according to gazan health officials, the idf disputes those numbers first, they put the number of casualties under 100 and cnn cannot independently verify the death toll. sullivan saying the us was not involved in the operation, but supports israeli efforts to free the hostages we, didn t have any us forces on the ground. united states will support israel and taking steps to try to rescue hostages who are currently being held in harm, held by hamas. and we will continue to work with israel to do that, we will also continue to reinforce the point that all of their military operations, including hostage rescue operation, should take every precaution to minimize the amount of civilian harm cnn s oren liebermann joins me now, live from tel aviv. oren. good morning. we re learning new details this morning about just how this israeli raid unfolded and how the us provided support. what s latest that s right, casey, this is an operation that took weeks of planning according to the israeli military, including hundreds of personnel that includes military intelligence as well as a special police unit for the training that went into this, including the building of mock apartment buildings in which the israeli military believed these four hostages were held in new site on a refugee camp in central gaza, a densely populated area. the operation itself carried out in mid de, israel, believing that would give it an element of surprise hi, is that hamas wouldn t believe that israel would do such an operation in midday when the streets were busy, the israeli forces moved in just before noon on saturday again to, to apartment buildings that were fairly close to each other, pulling out these four hostages. a celebration for israel. there was celebration, and joy on the streets of course, politicians, prime minister benjamin netanyahu celebrating a major and very difficult operation. but of course that operation came at a steep cost as israeli forces extracted the hostages, there were both gun fights and israeli strikes to try to get those hostages out of central gaza. and in that, the palestinian ministry of health in gaza said there s more than 270 palestinians, including women and children, were killed as part of those israeli operations and hundreds more wounded. israel disputes those numbers, saying there we re less than 100 casualties. it s impossible for cnn to be able to verify those, but either one of those numbers or anything in between, frankly, makes it one of the deadliest days in gaza. as we have seen in months. meanwhile, witnesses on the ground see israeli forces moved in in disguise, effectively trying to dress as hamas militants or has displaced palestinians to try to get closer to those apartment buildings where the idf says the hostages were held before the operation itself, the extraction effort unfolded here. now, after the operation here, the us says that rather us official said they helped with intelligence. they haven t been two specific here. we simply know that ever since the beginning of the war, there has been a us sell here that is worked hand-in-hand with the israelis to try to share whatever intel is out there, to try to push forward a hostage rescue effort. however, as the us has acknowledged the success of the operation, us officials including putting you heard jake sullivan there warning that the right move now is to go to a ceasefire, as well as a hostage deal, putting pressure on both israel and saying now it s up to hamas to act all right oren liebermann for us in tel aviv. oren. thank you very much all right. let s turn now to 2024. and how immigration policy is shaping the presidential race. new reporting, this morning indicates that as he tries to court swing state latino voters president biden, is considering a second executive action focused on providing legal status for long term undocumented immigrants who are married to american citizens. donald trump was in the key swing state of nevada over the weekend and he used to always say creative language to criticize biden s first executive order it s week, it s ineffective, it s both. what he signed this word, seems to be catching on a little bit, but in a much more positive way than deplorable i had sorry, i d take your piece out, clipping and also wonderful that this is now introduced to the political lexicon. i mean, another, another trial trump kept, you know, i have to say i when i first started doing this, i feel like i guess it was covering mitt romney. everything was a little more polite. but that was not that was not the can that was not the can let s talk a little bit about and we were continuing to talk about this in the break earlier in the show. let s just kinda bring our viewers in on that. the way that nevada is changing. latino voters. in particular, an opportunity for donald trump in a way that some people may not have wrap their heads around, but lulu, it does seem like i ll be honest at this point, it feels like nevada is going to land in trump s column y. if nevada land lands in trump s column, it s going to be because of the economy frankly, nevada as a place where you have a lot of working class service workers they are very impacted by high prices. they have been hurt during the pandemic and they are looking for improvements in the economy. and as we know, people are nostalgic about the trump economy pre-pandemic. they think that they did better than and they believe that he would be able to turn the economy around for them now. and so that i think is the main appeal, the mistake. i think people make with latinos is that they think that immigration is the main issue for them. and in fact, that s not true. what really is important is education is crime, is the economy and those are issues in which donald trump is pulling back at right now. i mean, if that s the case, jonah, does that mean that this is a mistake for biden to consider the second executive action that would welcome some people that are here with undocumented status. but i think it might be they pay a lot. so maybe they ve got some data that we don t know about. but to lose point, it has always been true that hispanic voters, as they move up the socioeconomic ladder become indistinguishable from the median voter people think longtime law republican, so that oh, hispanics just always vote democrat now, for people tended to vote democrat. and as hispanic moved up, the socioeconomic ladder, they tended to look indistinguishabl e from other voters that s changing a little bit because now we re seeing the electric sort along working leinz non-college educated versus college or getting really bizarre gender gaps, stuff that s really sort of solidifying. and blacks and latinos are just following a little slower behind what s been happening with the white working class, the old fdr coalition has fallen apart part and it s moving right? and the sort of college-educated boudoir parents want to send their kids to college has been moving left. there is a caveat here though, which is that even though immigration is not the most important thing for latinos, moseley, he knows have family members who were who came to this country might be undocumented. and so it is an issue that matters. so i do think that actually biden if he is going to do this, which is i think the plan is to give a path to citizenship or at least legality for those who are married to sit us citizens. i think that that actually might have an impact, at least it will distinguish him from trump s stand on this. so just don t call people who look like you vermin. if you want to get their vote. there s something there too? yes when you talk to democrats about this, they re like that s the distinguishing thing, right? like we re not going to use dehumanizing language to talk about people that that is the thing that donald trump does here, that they really helps us base, i mean the progressive base actually wants a path to legalization when they talk about comprehensive immigration reform, they mean that yes, there should be border enforcement, but also their needs to be a path to citizenship for those who are in this country legally. yeah. and the governor of nevada puts it this way in the new york times this morning, he writes, quote, as the 2024 election inches closer, candidates would be wise to consider the effective their actions on voters every day, lives if recent polling on democratic candidates in nevada is any indication, i think it is. mr. biden has a big problem to overcome nevada s were losing confidence in him to do something meaningful about inflation in housing and their left feeling that he just doesn t get it. and we are talking here about broadening out beyond latino nevada and voters. this is just about the state and why it is so essential to this election. recall first that it was a nail-biter in 2020 when joe biden one. so this was never a shoe in for him but lulu, it struck me when you said how these voters correctly, they urine for a pre-pandemic economy under trump. but i think what biden s challenge is going to be as to remind voters that 2020 was in fact a year that donald trump was president i think when i was just in reno for our panel talking to a lot of voters at the university s campus. there a lot of people were upset still about the closures that they thought harmed the economy, but they were attributing those two biden which i found interesting as of 2020 has been erased from the national memory, is having been indeed a part of trump s presidency. yeah, i mean, i think there s sort of a collective desire to erase 2020 from just in general yeah, ginger, a few days president of the united states, but anyway, up next here, a potential new front runner in the mad dash to be donald trump s running mate plus splash mountain is out at the mouth kingdom, the right that will replace it ahead june, 19th, cnn celebrate juneteenth with special performances by john legend, hadi lewbel if you, robinson, we still have a lot of work to do. juneteenth, celebrating freedom and legacy. wednesday, june 19 at ten on cnn sometimes it takes a different approach to imagine your future differently with capella universities game changing flex pattern format, you can own your nursing degree without putting life on hold this is a freemium hand selected bacon wrapped the layman that s aged for 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but i also am like, why isn t she on the ti i mean, to me, it s kind of crazy. but it does seem like a missed opportunity. i will just a little i feel i still there yeah. can we say coi is when she answers questions like that? i mean, i always forget that she is just out of college because he carries herself, i think with such dignity with for 22-years-old, it s really it s really impressive. all right. now this hunter biden s federal gun trial resumes in delaware in just a few hours. the big question whether the present this isn t sun will take the stand today is the deadline for the defense attorneys to decide whether hunter will testify. the president s son facing three counts related to his purchase of a firearm in 2018, which of course prosecutors say violated federal law because he was addicted to crack cocaine at the time on friday, hunters daughter naomi testified about her father s struggles with drug use joining me now from wilmington, delaware is alex thompson, national political reporter for axios. alex, great to see you here again. can you bring us up to speed on what we saw from naomi on friday and what we might expect to see today. yeah. it was an incredibly emotional testimony with hunter biden s daughter. the first grand daughter, who just a few years ago got married at the white house, basically taking the stand, was a little bit nervous, was really trying to vouch for her father and say that she believed that he was you in a really good place with his sobriety to crack cocaine in around the time when he was buying a gun. but she was really subject to a really sort of emotionally gutting cross-examination when the prosecution brought up text messages that hunter sure. it s sent between them. the two of them in just the days after he bought the gun, he was sort of a radek texting at all times night at midnight at 2:00 a.m. looking to asking if her husband could bring a car to 57th street in manhattan where she was going to law school, and then basically reading out this text message where she said, no, see you, joyce on one time when he was there for a few days and then said i just the text message said i just can t take this dad. i just want to hang out with you and for 23-year-old girl to just text her dad saying, i just want to hang out with you and then him saying, i m sorry, i can you know, it really was very emotional moment. i can tell you when they were all coming out of the courtroom, the first family, the first lady, jill biden, sister bao. bao biden they all look a little bit, a little bit shaken. they all, it was a very emotional sort of testimony when naomi came out of the courtroom. i was right there and she she sort of wiped one of for wipe to tear from her eye. and when she came out of the witness room is indoors, but she was she had put on these it s very dark black, huge classes to shield her eyes so it was an emotional day for the entire family really remarkable. alex there is, of course this question about whether or not hunter is going to testify. we ve talked at length in recent weeks about because of a different defendant, whether or not it s a good idea for people to take the stand in their own defense. generally speaking, it seems like it typically isn t it is there a right, of course, to do so? what are you expecting? i think at the again the de he s not going to do it, but i can tell you that i feel very confident that he really wants to it. i mean, a lot of defendant s want to take the take it. i can tell you, you know, going back years, hunter has always try has really favorite and much more aggressive approach which and at times has been very frustrated when his father s aides have just basically encouraged him to just keep his head down. that s actually part of the reason why he hired abbe lowell, has current lawyer in this case was because he was tired of being quiet and you saw that earlier this year when he how he dealt with the house republican since investigations when he started going out publicly he was just being much more public publicly aggressive when a hunter has, you know, i ve spent time with them. i interviewed him earlier this year. hunter has charm as we ve seen from the many girlfriends he was juggling that testified trial. so he, you know, he has an ability to really make you know, make his own case and be very, very compelling and so i m sure he wants to, but just given the amount of material, the prosecutors would be able to introduce in this trial if he were to testify that could then have repercussions not just professional investigations, but other legal cases i d be surprised if he does alex big picture here. this isn t the only problem that hunter biden is facing. he s got another trial set for the fall. how are people around in the biden family around the president, thinking about the difference? between those two things, because the other one it might seem has a higher potential for doing damage to the president from a political perspective, what are you hearing? absolutely well, because the other trials more problematic for two reasons. one is it starts september 5th, so we re talking just two months before the election. the other reason is it s it s just messier. and this one is a little bit more, little bit simpler. he bought a gun while in the myths of when he was addicted before when he was six after the trial. as we ve seen, the trial is going to last just a little over a week the other one is about his finances and not paying taxes and 2017 and 2018 when he made over $2 million. each of those years. and the finances they re sprawling. i mean, in that indictment, they they name his ex-wife and the civil case when he was not paying millions of dollars and alimony, they talk about the other civil case with an arkansas with a woman he had a truck that hunter had a child with and just all the different pieces of the finances where he was making that money i think is going to be messier all right. alex thompson for us, alex, we re grateful to have had you on the program on this come back soon. thank you. thanks. all right. he is a businessman who self-funded his political career and was first elected to office in 2016. does that sound familiar that s basically where the similarities end between donald trump and north dakota governor doug burgum. but he bardem is the man who has climbed the former vice president, the former president s vice president shortlist as a new york times reports is merged as perhaps trump s safest option. also the biggest wildcard burgum has reportedly received vetting materials from the trump campaign and has spent months supporting trump on the campaign trail and in court while also walking back comments that he made in this nbc interview last summer would you ever do business with donald trump i don t think so why i would i just think that it s important that you re judged by the company you keep i just wouldn t do business with him. no, i wouldn t house back. jonah wouldn t do business with them back then. tune has changed but what do i mean burgum in many ways is probably what donald trump would have conceived of as like, you know, if, if, if vice presidents had baseball cards, yeah, this guy will go well on one. what s your view? yeah. so i mean, i ve long thought that trump if he was sure he was going to win, wants the scary as vice president, that doesn t hurt his election chances. because that makes them harder when ph, when he s president, right? because like you can keep me. are you going to have this medusa head right and pull out? okay about it that way here lake or something, but i don t think he s that company is going to win mike pence was equally boring to doug burgum, but he also back then brought evangelical christians social concerns. did that then trump needed it then trump does not have a transactional relational need with any constituent when see on the right the way he did in 2016. and so the two things he s looking for, most are loyalty and money, burgum, i think has the money jd vance has more of the loyalty and i m just i have no idea. good had hair and good hair. very, and. very important eyebrows very i mean, look, it s an enviable head of hair. yes, many would kill for anything what i have continued to hear from my sources in the trump campaign is that the internal effort to convince donald trump to choose jd vance is much more aggressive than it is for governor burgum. at the end of the day, obviously trump makes his own decisions and at the very last minute, you could have an intense lobbying effort from every single person around him. still might not result in that person, but yeah, that line i m hearing is unchanged. changed from people around him that advance is still you ve heard kristi noem saying he needs to choose a woman, a woman. you also have marco rubio of florida talking about how he might help with latinos there are lots of different reasons to choose different people and ultimately it is up to donald trump. and what is interesting to me is that he is waiting to the very last minute. apparently he s going to make this announcement at the convention. it is like the apprentice style unveiling. we re getting b as possible. it has to say the drama. i feel you it s very smart because it gets all these people to be just unbelievably sycophantic surrogates on sunday shows and everywhere else for months on end her sessions about whether marco rubio would be willing to move out of florida if you review of waukesha that s exactly what i meant. yeah. well, i mean, in in there also is this sort of like he requires some certain degree. it seems of humiliation from these people as well. all right. i ll leave you with this and this is a little bit of a point of personal privilege today. i got to spend some time with a very special group of heroes over the week he can at the annual dc fire and ems awards dinner, which honors all of the first responders who answered the call in 2023 that year, one of those calls was mine or i guess technically my husband s after i rather abruptly went into labor at home last march the labor lasted 30 minutes. my daughter grey, was born on my bathroom floor and my husband had to deliver her himself the baby was delivered through no fault of anyone who works here before you can arrive only because it was so fast we didn t actually have times call 911. so that happened once we did have a chance to make the call. they did at dc fire and ems arrive in force. we had a ladder fire truck and all they made sure that gray and i both came out happy and healthy. and while i certainly hope that this was a once in a lifetime situation for me the for the people that came to help, it was really just all in a day s work situations like this really show everyone and certainly showed us in this instance just how much all of us out in the world depend on all of you and again, i want to thank the crew from medic 24 firefighter hayden 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today. i m mj lee at the white house and this is cnn hello, and welcome to allow viewers watching from around the world. i m going to kincaid ahead on scene and user. the new rise of europe s far-right, right wing parties, seeing a surge of support and parliamentary elections the eu commission president assures that the center is holding a bloated israel s leadership has benjamin netanyahu s main political challenger resigns from the war cabinet and us president joe biden s new campaign ad says donald trump is incompetent on the world stage. will discuss biden s latest effort to undermine he s put presidents arrival as recent polls show them, neck and neck from atlanta this is cnn newsroom with linda kincaid it s one of the world s largest elections with more than 370 million people are eligible to vote for the next european parliament. when now the results are coming in and far-right parties are projected to win a record number of states following four days of voting. or people across 27 countries went to the polls in the election, which will set the european union s priorities for the next five years. projections show that the mainstream center-right european people s party will remain the largest group european commission chief us live on the land celebrating her party s success. while acknowledging that extremes on both ends of the spectrum a gaining traction the center is holding budget is also true that the extremes on the left and on the right have gained support this is why the result comes with great responsibility for the parties in the center we may differ on individual points but we all have an interest in stability and we all want a strong and effective europe will protests is empowered to express their outrage gains for friends, right-wing parties, which took more than one in three votes cast according to official results french president emmanuel macron has dissolved parliament and called for snap elections in the coming weeks we re joining us now is class sebastian live from london? good to see you class. so this is a significant shift for parties that were once considered fringe. now projected to win a record number of seats yeah linda look it s been a years-long, if not decades long process where we ve seen incremental gains for far-right parties in europe, but i think it s safe to say now, and especially given how clearly we see that it feeds international politics, like in france, these parties are no longer on the fringes. this is the main mainstreaming of these far-right parties and the he s far right policies. now, look, it s clear also that the center did hold the epp, the european people s party led by eu commission president i still have underlying is still the biggest party in the european parliament. it did gain seats and she should be able to comfortably form a coalition with several other parties in the center and the center until left in order to be able to push through the policies that she wants. of course, there s another question, how do you over hershey is up for reelection. he time expires in july, so she ll be hoping that she can bring forward that support for that as well. but i think if you look to the right of that chart, you do see gains for the id group led by marine in a pen from france, which of course gained huge amounts of seats in this vote, the ecr, where giorgia meloni avidity is the key figure. and of course, ni, non-attached remembers now includes the afd, the alternative for germany party in germany that was deemed so far to the right that marine le pen actually kicked it out of the id group a few weeks ago. so that s another part of this story is that the far-right itself is not unified. so given that i think it s unclear at this point how much power they will wield within the parliament yeah, interesting looking at that graphic, i have to ask you across about france because the french president s party did not do well. and of course we had that surprise announcement by a menu macron cooling for snap elections in a matter of weeks that, that of course is a political risk this is a huge gamble and i think, well, the rise of the he, it national rally party and one other far-right party in france didn t surprise everyone. certainly macron s reaction to it did his argument is that he needs to now seek clarity from the parliament so that he can move forward. but he certainly didn t disguise his concern about what the rise of the far right all right. will mean for france and for europe, take a listen of hamas no hope place. in france, the far-right parties representatives have garnered nearly 40% of all votes for me who has always considered europe to be united, strong independent, and good food for france. this is a situation that i cannot come to terms with. the rise of nationalists, of demagogues is a danger for our nation, but also for our europe, for france is placed in europe and in the world so here s hoping, of course that he would be able to win over voters. of course, it s not his job that s up for grabs, but it is the parliament where he will be hoping that his liberal agenda will gain a new mandate if it doesn t go his way. of course, we could then see a far-right prime minister in france and an even more difficult situation for menu on macron, as he seeks to push through his policies for his last three years as president of france we ll see if this political risk pays dividends, pick him later this month, let sebastian for us in london. thanks so much. don t run tall as the aid chief political commentator for the independent and a visiting professor at king s college in london. he joins us via skype from london. good to have you with us good morning. good morning. well, this was a full day voting marathon. it happens every five years that of course, saw europe shift to the right. we saw these far-right parties making gains and really delivering stunning to face to two of the blocks. most important leaders, france and germany. what did you make the results? the ones so far the projective results, i should say i m more surprised that d be the results were they were predicted which makes president macron s response more surprising as we heard just there, he said, he cannot accept the rise of right-wing extreme party and he s going to call a general election in france as a response. i mean, that s that is that, that did take me by surprise. well, as the fall of the belgian government of thought but president macron is a very, very interesting politician i think what he s trying to do put himself at the leadership the leadership of the center across europe is a very interesting thing and we will see if his gamble comes off. of course, he s not, he s not putting his own position at risk and they already has no majority in the french parliament but it s a very very interesting gamble, especially in the light of what rishi sunak has done in britain. yeah, exactly. a huge gamble, one that marine le pen, who of course lays france s national rally party and has such strong results. it was quite pleased to hear and no doubt but i won t ask you about overall is european parliament shifting more to the right what that will mean on issues like immigration, on issues like security going forward well, i mean, it s it s interesting from a british perspective but there seems to be something similar happening across europe. i mean, the british politics has seen a sudden a sudden change in the past year or two on issues such as, such as climate change, rishi sunak are prime minister as as adjusted policy because we were very much set in a two party consensus about the urgency. i m a change and about the progress towards zero and the rishi sunak has said, we ve got to adjust the speed at which we approach that target because we cannot load on one voters. and now that, that sentiment seems to be very widespread in europe until you ve got leaders like giorgia meloni in italy who did extremely well in the european parliament election and it and it s fair to say the au president as live on the land soul that this shift was coming and in turn shifted further to the right yes. i mean, that is happening happening across europe on especially on these two issues climate change policies and immigration giorgia meloni was elected in italy on a very strong anti-immigration platform. i mean, italy obviously bears a large brunt of the arrivals across the mediterranean from africa she s adjusted her position actually since you since you entered office. but the attitude of other properties across europe on immigration as taking a much tougher line. and the idea of third country processing, which britain has taken to the extreme of their orlando scheme is now an emerging consensus across europe and of course, germany s later. i ll have shelfs. potty had the worst ever result in european election coming in third after two other parties. why was that um, it s interesting because his his most controversial issue over the past year has been germany s reluctance, support for the ukraine war and its hesitancy about a full, more full-throated policy, which olaf scholtz, i thought had had navigated. well, but i think domestic issues of the cost of living, problem, which has been the dominant across europe he hasn t handled so well and i think we ve seen the afd, the german right-wing anti-immigration party taking full advantage of that shift in sentiment that we were talking about across europe john rental in london. we appreciate your time. thanks so much for joining us. my pleasure israeli war cabinet member benny gantz says he is resigning from the country s emergency government that up after the october 7 hamas attacks, in a televised statement, who described the decision is quite complex and painful gantz s departure comes just weeks after issued an ultimatum to prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as he called on him to lay out a new plan for the war against hamas by june 8 netanyahu, afghans to change his mind saying now is the time to quote, join forces again, it s made his thoughts clear, accusing the israeli leader of putting his own political considerations ahead of a strategy for a post-war gaza. and he s calling on netanyahu to hold an election in the coming months were gantz was expected to resign saturday, but postponed his announcement following news that israeli forces had rescued four hostages held in gaza. officials there say the raid killed at least 274 palestinians. israel says it estimates a number of casualties from the operation to be under 100 civilians. cnn cannot independently verify either sides figures we are tracking all the developments from london where scene is not a shear. and journalists, ellicott can ask standing by for his good to have you both with us. i will start with you, elliott, first on the resignation of benny gantz, he had given an ultimatum. he wanted a plan to bring the hostages home. there are still over 100 and gaza, but he also wanted a post-war plan for gaza. his resignation while not unexpected, he did express his frustration with netanyahu, right he did. and as you say, it wasn t a surprise that he announced his resignation, but that doesn t make it any less impact for benny gantz was seen as a kind of moderating influence on prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he ensured for that he was in the war cabinet along with netanyahu, along with defense minister yoav gallant. and that s specifically the far-right ministers in benjamin netanyahu s governing coalition would not be in the war cabinet. so all of the decisions and the prosecution of israel s war against hamas since the hamas terrorist attacks of october the seventh has been a result of decisions made by the war cabinet. it hasn t just been netanyahu and it hasn t been netanyahu and his far-right ministers. but what s going to happen now is first of all, netanyahu, it s important to note, is not under threat in terms of his position as prime minister. he still has numbers in israel s parliament, the knesset, 64 out of the house hundred and 20 seats. so as long as his right-wing minister s don t bolt from the coalition than he has pretty much politically at least safe in government until october 2026. what it does do though, is leave netanyahu s more isolated and also gives more power and will perhaps leave him more open to persuasion by those far-right ministers in terms of the war. and in terms of those hostage negotiations and not or to-do, i want to ask about this israeli operation to rescue the four hostages, which left dozens scores of palestinians, including children are dead. gaza puts the number at 274 killed, almost 700 injured or more. can you tell us well, this will suddenly mark one of the deadliest days that we have seen in gaza in a month. of course, this raid took place mid-morning. it was during the day which is somewhat unusual to see a rate of this scale taking place during the day. but this is an area, as we know, that is currently sheltering thousands of civilians ends and then nuseirat, refugee camp we have seen this particular camp come under heavy bombardment over recent days, killing dozens of civilians. but this was according to residents on the ground speaking to cnn colleagues at something they have not seen for the carnage that has been described in the aftermath of this rate is something on a scale scale that we haven t necessarily heard from civilians on the ground in months, and we have seen graphic and distressing video emerging from the ground, including from the al-aqsa martyrs hospital, which is nearby, showing the overwhelmed hospital ward with bodies on the ground the hostile of course, simply unable to cope with this it s level of casualties that we are seeing. this is something that we have heard, of course repeatedly now from health officials on the ground in gaza. and of course, as we have been hearing from residents, they have described this, some of them as hell on earth. that is the message that we ve been hearing. we ve been hearing from others saying that ambulances weren t able to actually access the area in the aftermath of this road because it had been deemed a military zone because it s simply wasn t secure enough for paramedics to access those in need of help. but of course, this has really raised concerns over what this could mean for any potential peace plan currently on the table. this is drawn fierce criticism from amazon so the international community, particularly from regional leaders, we ve heard from hamas condemning this attack as a brutal massacre. the palestinian authority has also been vocal in condemning the attack. but of course, we ve been hearing from egyptian officials who ve expressed their concerns that this could place any sort of negotiations currently on the table. in jeopardy, particularly as the peace plan currently put forward by, according to us president joe biden, by the israeli government calls for a peaceful exchange of hostages. many now questioning why there s raid needed to take place, particularly as the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has outspoken, rejected this peace plan currently on the table all right, not a big shift for us. and elliott glaucon and london. thank you very, very much what, donald trump is back on the campaign trail, but he can t seem to stop talking about his criminal conviction. we ll have more on he is latest style when we come with the freestyle libre three system, know your glucose levels no finger six needed all with the world s smallest and thinnest sensor manage your diabetes with more confidence and lawyer a1c, dry for free at freestyle libri.us pod spring moving segall has been extended. save up to 25% on moving in storage until june 10, and cbi pods, it s been trusted did with over 6 million moves, don t wait, use promo code 25 now to save, look at pot.com today yeah, introducing nets plaque psoriasis. he thinks is flaky red patches 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avoid an engaged major battles in europe is just not realistic that s why it s so important that we continue to have their alliance as we continue to be felt continue to keep nato strong continue to do what we ve been able to do for the last since the end of world war ii well, in the coming hours or probation officer is set to interview donald trump as part of the sentencing phase of his hush money trial. the meeting will be virtual with his attorney present as trump is back on the campaign trail, trump s advisers are eager for him believe, talk of his legal troubles out of his speeches that so far that hasn t been the case cnn s alayna treene reports former president donald trump in his first campaign rally since being convicted in a manhattan courtroom last week, surprisingly, did not talk about that trial specifically during his speech. instead, he spoke about his legal troubles more broadly. he also criticized special counsel jack smith, who was not part of this case referring to him as a quote, dumb son of a and also claimed that the weaponization of the justice department in this country is worse than what you would find in a third world country. take a listen to how he put it. i ll tell you what so third world country has weaponization, where they go after political candidates, like we have either this guy can t get elected anything without cheating. the only way he can get elected is to cheat now, despite that rhetoric, i will tell you that from my conversations with donald trump s campaign, they really do want him to leave this weekslong trial in the past and really begin turning back to a general election campaign message that includes talking about immigration, something he spoke about at length on sunday, as well as the economy and crime and he did make one on new announcement on sunday, he said that in a second administration of his would eliminate taxes on tips and that s something particularly important to voters here in nevada, especially given the state s reliance on tourism and transportation. now, just looking ahead to monday, donald trump is set to have a pre sentencing hearing. the probation officer now this is pretty routine following a conviction like his however, what s not normal is that it is going to be virtual will towed. he ll be at his mar-a-lago home with his defense attorney, todd blanche for that. alayna treene, cnn, las vegas larry sabato is the director of the university of virginia, said of the politics. he joins us now from charlottesville. good to see laurie. thanks to see you. linda, for the first time since trump s criminal conviction he s been out campaigning over the weekend. who s in las vegas, nevada key battleground state which a recent fox survey found hips in his favor his speech that lasted about an hour in the scorching heat, 12 people had to be taken for treatment. what stood out to you during that campaign rally? it s the fact that he is attracting so many younger and older hispanics and that really is the difference in nevada, nevada usually votes democratic, but it s always close. and trump realizes he has a chance to capture that state, which biden won four years ago but of course trump was on display. he used a very inappropriate term to describe the special counsel as he always does. he goes off script and he says things that end up. i think hurting him more than helping him it s interesting looking at a new cbs poll overall showing that biden and trump and neck and neck, biden slightly ahead in the battleground state. so biden at 50% verse trump s 49%, but most of misdemeanors voters say their main rationale for supporting him is opposing trump that s up from march now, his team has released and you add today, i just want to play some of that sound and get your reaction she s trump for what insincere going for corrupt, dangerously competent, and capable. my view, the leadership. and if we give donald trump four more years, we ll have a great deal of gal80. you ve ever been able recover america s standing in the world mark capacity to bring nations together what s your reaction to that new attack ad by the biden campaign? linda, i think it s very effective. it s effective because it s both clever and accurate that is what most world leaders, at least the world leaders who traditionally had been america s allies. that s the way they think of a president trump. and of course, the world leaders, his closest to we would normally consider adversaries, vladimir putin, kim jong on and in the north korea, viktor orban in hungary and others. so i think it s an accurate add and it really gets the point across. it s well put together and it speaks to biden s message in france over the weekend, riley paid tribute to pulling us soldiers. he went to a world war one cemetery on the outskirts of paris, which trump avoided when he was president. this is a burial ground that s home to fought over 2000 american soldiers. biden never mentioned trump s name, though, doing any of those speeches, but he did highlight how important it is to protect the alliance wright, who was he speaking to you are absolutely correct to say he didn t name trump, but everyone knew that the contrast was there and they caught it because at least some people remember what trump did during those four years. and biden, i think conducted itself very well. he appears presidential. he has a number of other international conferences and engagements coming up. and you know, that s, that s the way a president running for reelection should look and it s a nice contrast with your opponent who is going to have his first meeting with a probation officer? after 34 felony counts. yeah, i want to ask about that, so that s meeting with the probation officer will happen monday after the guilty verdict that came through in the hush money case. what sort of sentence do you expect? he ll get? well a minority of the people who study this area think you ll get some prison time and it s possible. i tend to think the judge will be creative. he will certainly get some punishment. maybe it s in-home retention, maybe it is some public service of one sort or another. so that would be interesting, wouldn t it to see a president and out doing community service and this president in particular the judge, will come up with something appropriate probably isn t prison time, but the point is, he was convicted. he ll be the first convicted felon avar to be a nominee for president. or if she evs elected to be in the oval office. i m not sure that s something for our country to be proud of. yeah. we will see how this plays out. larry sabato, good to have you with us as always. thanks so much. thank you. limit mulkey officials says he s quitting israel s war cabinet ahead more details and benny gantz is move and the latest developments from gaza plus millions of people. our at-risk of salvation and zimbabwe s the country deals with one of its worst droughts on record russia for 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latest proposal last hours, but with ha hellyer, senior associate fellow at the royal united services institute, i asked him why we aren t hearing more from western political leaders when it comes to the death toll from the latest operation in gaza i m afraid there s no good answer to that question in the sense that it simply confirm that the value of palestinian life in this whole conflict as seen from western capitals, is incredibly low. and i think that what you ve seen over the past couple of days as with i think only joseph burrell from the european union actually even noting the incredible trouble civilian cost where we re talking almost 300 palestinians having to die at the hands of the israeli defense forces and others really forces in order to free four hostages. so it s extraordinary. and what you just heard from the united states was sickly, hamas is false which i think is extraordinary of course hamas is a bad actor, a terrorist organization, and so on but the hamas did not kill these people and in any other operation where hostages are being freed whether domestically or internationally we wouldn t call this a success. we d call it out huge failure because we would also consider, against the positive nature of freeing for hostages was 100 times more than that of people dying the palestinian side. so i think the question that a lot of people around the world du, be asking is simply do these western political leaders consider the palestinian lives matter? and i think the answer is not going to be very positive. and of course it s also frustration from families of hostages when it comes to the way this is proceeding, we know that a 105 hostages were released during that ceasefire back at the end of november. it was a week long ceasefire. by contrast, only seven hostages have been rescued by the idf for released by hamas surely as these fires going to be the most effective way to bring the most hostages home with less risks risk to civilians in gaza so there s be in a number of ceasefire deals and hostage deals revealed over the past eight months. and they ve been rejected time and again by israel despite the pleading of the families of the hostages in israel and i think you re absolutely right, that actually quite a number of hostages have been killed as a result of this war on gaza. in the midst of idf strikes on gaza in fact, that it was recently claimed, although i don t think this has been verified yet, but it was claimed that even in the midst of this particular rescue operation, other hostages were killed so i think that it s absolutely true that if we re going to see hostages being released the most hostages being released it will come as a result of a hostage negotiation deal. and ceasefire. otherwise, i suspect we will see more hostages dying. but we ll also see scores multiple times more palestinian civilians dying and i would remind your viewers that over the past nine months, we ve seen at least 40,000 palestinians being killed as a result of this war on gaza after an attack in october on october 7 that killed 1,200 israelis. the numbers are really quite extraordinary and i think that people ought to keep in mind that going forward if we re going to have any chance of any sort of coexistence in the holy land and israel, palestine then the dignity of all human lives has to be passed. are amounts as opposed to this particular cycle where frankly an occupation that is so brutal and the campaign that is so brutal is simply going to continuous cycle of violence and hatred for many years to come thanks to ha hellyer, we use visuals are trying to persuade the g7 to approve a massive loan to ukraine using profits from frozen russian assets $50 billion would become available for ukraine to use in the war with russia. but some details still needs to be worked out before the deal can be finalized sources say us president joe biden is trying to fast track the process. so an announcement can be made in the g7 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coming from the main opposition leader here in south korea, ej knowing who is saying paraphrasing him ever so slightly that if this game of chicken continues, that this could end up resulting in a localized conflict or worst-case scenario and all out war. and linda essentially what we re trying to do here, gauging from the bureau in seoul is to figure out the tempo of what is happening with this back-and-forth. and we have newer information coming in. that s indicating from south korea s joint chiefs of staff that they seem to believe north korea is preparing their own loudspeakers to be pumping in propaganda from north kilometers on un inke to south korea, mirroring what south korea did yesterday. so again, this seems to be picking up ever so slightly after we were all hoping that perhaps we would have an intermezzo or a pausing, or a slowing of this tempo. so talking about what south korea did, we have images of about nine or ten military vehicles with loudspeakers coming out of the roofs of those miller matairie trucks and the loudspeakers for some duration of time late yesterday afternoon, we have confirmation played k-pop songs, specifically attuned from bts, also played news bulletins from south korean media agencies detailing human rights abuses perpetrated by kim jong-un s regime. in north korea. so speaking of that regime, kim yo jong, kim s sister coming out with new statements after those loudspeaker broadcast from the south saying that this could amount to a prelude to a very dangerous situation, saying that there could be new responses from north korea based on the propaganda loudspeaker brought a cast that emanated from the south, wrapping up here, linda, we have an astounding 1110 trash balloons that have flown from the north, making it to south korea. so we are all watching to see what happens with the tempo for this balloon imbroglio. linda all right. hopefully things calm down i m like valeriia insult. thanks so much more than 80 million people are under heat alerts here in southwestern us, as these southern half of the country grapples with extreme heat. at the start of the work week some areas because he temperatures as high as 110 degrees fahrenheit. that s about 43 degrees celsius. he has seen a meteorologist, allison chinchar, with more record temperatures are set to return it that heat dome really starts to set up once again across the southern tier of the us in florida temperatures looking at least one more day of possible records for places like orlando, jacksonville, and perhaps even tampa high temperature, they re top again at 95 degrees before dropping back to 87 as we go a few days later. and that s thanks to some showers and thunderstorms that will be moving back into the area quite a different story, however, for both making and jackson where the temperatures will actually be going back up as we make our way into the middle of the week. and that s the same story out to the west where those temperatures are expected to drastically rise over the next few days, albuquerque going from cells 77, all the way up to 98 by wednesday, denver, colorado going from 84 up to 93 and places like phoenix, las vegas, even upper around sacramento, all looking at those temperatures well, above average for this time of year, when we look at the heat risk again, you can see a lot of these areas up in that moderate risk area, the orange color you see that? but even a few spots in red from western texas stretching all the way up into utah and even california, that concern there is that yes, even though it s june, it s summertime. we expect taught temperatures. these are considered dangerously hot for a lot of these areas compared to what they normally would see in for some of these areas. it s going to last for quite some time, take tucson, for example. every single one of the next seven days, this temperature is expected to be well above average, las vegas, for example, a very hot place. but right now, they re average high is only about 98. they re not even technically supposed to be at triple digits. but if you look at every single one of the next seven days, all of them looking at those high temperatures into the triple digits some of them even making it awfully close to around 110 thanks to allison chinchar, there will families in zimbabwe and struggling to put food on the table as a terrible drought plagues the country in the south of al-furqan. the threat of another failed rainy season has unicef raising the alarm children lineup for what may very well be their only meal today, waiting patiently for a scoop and maybe two of macaroni their parents to rely on neighboring farms for work out of the job du to crop failure. no crops mean no food, let alone any money to buy it. a drought caused by a combination of naturally occurring el nino and human-induced global warming, plagues zimbabwe it s the worst drought here in years after a failed rainy season from october to march. and the threat of 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that s it for me. thanks for watching the sunday show. follow us on x, instagram, tiktok, threads, using the handle weekend capehart. you can also listen to every episode of our show as a podcast for free. just scan the qr code on your screen right there, right now to follow. i m andrea canning and this is dateline. he calls 911 and says his wife appears dead. he said anna found her in the bathtub. i ve never seen my son shell shocked. it was a case taylor made for the tabloids. you have this beautiful woman, a tall handsome guy. greed, infidelity. he s sleeping around with other women. a failing marriage with millions at stake. he didn t have anybody of his own. this is getting ugly. yes. she said we re broken, and she cried. was it a fall on the top or a husband s fall from grace? we believe it was a staged accident. he was adamant about his innocence. the case bothered me for a long time. he said to me, you have to help me kill my parents. you can t even think of the magnitude of it all. hello and welcome to dateline. shelly and rod coveland met and married in a matter of months. soon they had two young children, a nest egg worth millions. and then on the brink of a new year, tragedy struck. pointing to a diabolical truth that would tear two families apart. here is endgame. normally full of lights with people rushing somewhere or nowhere. take a short walk uptown maybe, 25 minutes on foot. i started my own family here on the upper west side just steps from central park. during the day, this neighborhood is buzzing with families. at night, it s quiet and safe. but just two blocks from where i lived in the early morning hours of new year s eve, 2009, something terrible touched this neighborhood. it happened inside this pricey apartment building on west 68th street. around 7:00 a.m., a man named rod covlin called 911 to say his 9-year-old daughter, anna, found his wife, shele, unconscious in the bathtub. rebecca rosenberg, then a reporter for the new york post, covered the case. he sees his wife in the tub. he pulls her out, puts her face up on the ground and starts performing cpr. and then he calls 911, and they tell him to keep performing cpr. this is a horrible scene? i would imagine absolutely devastating for their daughter. the emts arrived in minutes. they found no pulse. 47-year-old shele covlin was beyond help. the police come to the scene, eventually a detective comes to the scene. detectives found a tub full of bloody water and shele wrapped in comforter on it next to her. above the tub, a cabinet. they believe she grabbed it and landed hard in the tub. and so investigators began the difficult process of deconstructing a life that had just come to a sad and mysterious end. the police would soon learn that shele covlin was larger than life. nobody admired her more than her sister, eve and brother-in- law, mark carstadt. we would have a blast and laugh a lot. she was a lot of fun. she graduated with a marketing degree. and then my dad had asked her if she wanted to come and work with him at merrill lynch. shele eventually became a wealth manager. the money was good and so was the prestige. shele was fancy. she was smart, she was educated. reporter: shele s friend, stephanie goldman, remembers the day they took her to the friars club. it was wintertime, she was wearing her fur coat, her mink coat. men just came over to her. it was like being swept off her feet. she s got the finance job, the style, i mean it sounds like she was kind of the classic new york city woman? absolutely. absolutely. she was. in february of 1998, shele went to a jewish singles mixer in manhattan, where sparks flew with a guy she met there. his name, rod covlin. she called her sister that night with an outrageous announcement. she was all giggles, and she said i met a guy, really nice guy. and she said we re on our way to the airport to elope. she was laughing. and i said shele, please don t do this. eve talked her sister out of it that night, but shele was serious and so was rod. shele was 11 years older than him, but that didn t seem to matter. his parents, dave and carol covlin said he adored her right from the start. he told us he has a girlfriend, and we have to meet her. i said okay, passover is coming up. we don t have time right now. no, you have to meet her. a brunette back then, shele married rod six months later and reality set in as they settled down to life as a couple. it wasn t exactly bliss because while shele was a stunning overachiever, rod was, well, not in the same league. he was a stock trader of middle end success. what i did see was a guy who really had a lot of big ideas, and was unable to execute on any of them. but he had a couple of talents, martial arts. and he won money. two years after she married rod, shele gave birth to baby anna. she was inseparable from anna. she was doting on that child. she was an incredible mom. a second pregnancy followed, twins, but that ended in tragedy. so they were born prematurely, and then they died. oh my gosh. one at childbirth and one like a few hours later. how did she handle that? how do you support her? devastating. the entire year was a nightmare for her. then in 2006, shele had a baby boy. she and rod named their son, miles. but now three years later, shele was dead, and the scene inside that apartment on the upper west side was chaos. mark says eve could barely function. when i first saw her, she walked down the corridor, and she was as white as a sheet. she was in terrible shock. karl was an nypd detective. he was there too, pondering various scenarios. i ve been to places where people have fallen in a tub and anything is possible. in this case, that would be an understatement. this mystery is about to heat up. turns out the covlins seemingly perfect marriage was anything, but. coming up, a whirlwind romance that ended in a storm. she said he doesn t get a job and he is just hanging around the house. she was very frustrated. she said he s driving me crazy. and it might get worse. when shele told me he was going to be living across the hall, my first instinct was i don t think this is a good idea. when dateline continues. y®. and some lost over 46 pounds. and i m keeping the weight off. wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. i m reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only fda-approved weight-management medicine that s proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight. wegovy® shouldn t be used with semaglutide or glp-1 medicines. don t take wegovy® if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop wegovy® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. wegovy® may cause low blood sugar in people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes. tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest. depression or thoughts of suicide may occur. call your provider right away if you have any mental changes. common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. with wegovy®, i m losing weight, i m keeping it off. and i m lowering my cv risk. that s the power of we. check your cost and coverage before talking to your health care professional about wegovy®. you re the one that i want nexgard® combo is the only monthly topical that protects against fleas, ticks, tapeworms, and more. use with caution in cats with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard combo,. you re the one that i want .the monthly one-and-done you want. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. 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( ) and with once-daily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. because with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways open for a full 24 hours and prevents future flare-ups. trelegy also improves lung function, so i can breathe more freely all day and night. trelegy won t replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. what a wonderful world [laughing] ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy for copd because breathing should be beautiful, all day and night. because breathing should be beautiful, new year s in the big apple is usually a happy time, celebrations everywhere new year s in the big apple is usually a happy time. celebrations everywhere and the promise of fresh starts and new dreams. but for those who knew and loved shele covlin, 2010 began with sadness. shele s sister, eve and her husband, mark, couldn t believe the mother of two was gone. did it kind of hit you later the more emotional side of things as you think about your life without her and the children without her? right. you can t even think about the magnitude of it all. shele s in-laws, cheryl and david covlin were also shocked. their son, rod, called with the news. did you get any details? nothing. when you arrived, what s going on? roderick was sitting on the couch. i have never seen my son shell shocked and speechless in my life. the next few days were a blur. for religious reasons, the family decided not to have an autopsy performed. he went with his rabbi who said don t do the autopsy. it was only as friends and family gathered for the jewish period of mourning that they had time to think about the vibrant woman they just lost. she was an incredibly devoted mother. she was an incredible person. but what was also on their minds was dark and troubling. shele s rocky marriage to rod. she says he doesn t get a job. he goes to the gym twice a day, and he is just hanging around the house. and she was very frustrated. she said he s driving me crazy. in 2009, shele confessed to her sister that her marriage was in serious trouble. and she said we re broken and we just have to part ways. and she cried. she wept to me. one thing, mark and eve say came between the couple was rod s dramatic mood swings. rod has and always has a violent explosive temp iter. he could be sitting very calmly in the chair and something could set him off and in seconds, he ll literally explode. shele also complained about his obsession with back gamon. did he ever say why? i think he forged relationships in the bakeapple monocommunity. i said you ve got a family. the covlin s saw changes in shele, ones they thought was equally damaging to the marriage. she started going to the friars club from once a week, it became much more frequent than that. the couple seemed to be living separate lives in what had to be a painful moment. shele told her sister it wasn t the backgammon or the fact that rod wasn t pulling his weight that pushed her to separate. it was rod s cheating. she believes he left an e- mail up, so she would purposely see it from another woman. and she confronted him and he said that yes, he s sleeping around with other women, and he wants an open marriage. he still loves her and wants an open marriage. most women don t want to go along with the open marriage concept. right. she was one of those who said absolutely no. by june, rod had moved out, and he didn t go far. shele arranged for him to live for free in an apartment across the hall to make it easy for the kids. her close friend, stephanie goldman, wasn t happy with the arrangement. when shele told me he was going to be living across the hall, my first instinct was my goodness, i don t think this is a good idea. nevertheless shele was moving on, and so was rod. he was very charming, intelligent, funny, in a quirky sort of way. i really enjoyed playing backgammon with him. deborah met rod at a backgammon tournament. months later their relationship became romantic. i wasn t looking for any sort of a relationship. and he was, you know, pretty aggressive. i m considerably older than rod. and so it never occurred to me that he would be interested in me in that way. so it surprised you? it surprised me. and of course, it made me feel good, a younger man, being attracted to me. meanwhile shele was working with divorce attorney lance meyer. we talked about all the problems she was having with her husband and the concern she had about herself, her children, and she was really trying to figure out the best way to go about proceeding with a divorce case. by fall she was dipping her toe in the dating pool again. she was on jay date, she had met some gentleman. j date, the jewish dating website? yeah, yeah. shele seemed on track to make a fresh start in 2010 until that fresh start ended in with a seemed like a deadly accident. when i heard she slipped and fell in the tub, my initial reaction was she wouldn t even take a bath. and now shele s friends and family were wondering about the story rod told police that his daughter, anna, called him that morning in a panic and let him into the apartments because he didn t have a key. i was very suspicious. suspicions that only deepened when mark learned the medical examiner wasn t sure either. i m reading the death certificate and i saw the cause of death was undetermined. shele s loved ones aren t the only ones without doubt. coming up. she had bruising to her lip, appeared to have some scratch marks. she had bruising to her right hand. and rod said he had pulled shele s wet body out of the tub, so why wasn t he wet? 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from the moment shele covlin s family heard the story of her death, a slip and fall in a bathtub full of water, they felt it just didn t make sense. htthe moment shele covlin s family heard about the death, they felt it didn t make sense. how do you fall in a bathtub? i started thinking and thought shele takes a bath? she showers, you know. she s not taking a bath. plus shele had gotten a keratin hair straightening treatment the morning. she wasn t suppose to get her hair wet for several days. they say don t wash your hair for 72 hours. not even go to the gym. it had is the legally blonde moment that any woman who knows about a keratin treatment is not going to expose your hair like that. her death did not sit right with lead detective either. while she felt her death could have been an accident, details at the scene bothered him. the way that cabinet door had been yanked down. the blood in the tub, and marks on shele s body. she had bruising to her lip, appeared to have some scratch marks, and she had bruising to her right hand. what the detective would learn later cast suspicion on rod. rod told an officer he had to pull her wet body out of the tub, yet his clothes were bone dry. and then new york post reporter rebecca rosenberg. two officers found this unusual and noted this. how did you not get wet? he wasn t wet at all and it wasn t consistent with the story he had told. and their doorman remember rod doing something early that morning that was highly unusual for him. he stopped by the front desk to get a snack, even bought the doorman a snickers bar. the doorman thought it was weird because rod covlin usually wasn t chatty in all the years he had been there and never offered to bring him anything back. suspicious details indeed. the detective was hoping more clues would emerge from an autopsy, but remember, shele s family didn t have one done for religious reasons. if that is what the family wanted. you want to try to help the family as best as you can. there wasn t much he could do and her family hired a private investigator. so you re not satisfied? not at all. he started talking to friends of shele s. we had a flood of information that was extremely suspicious. people were telling us things that were very worrying. including things that confirmed what the family had seen for themselves. shele s divorce attorney, lance meyer. he would belittle her, call her ugly, he would make fun of her looks, so he was a demeaning person, and he would go low. so low, in fact, that at one point during their divorce, rod tried to undermine her at work. he called her company to report she was on drugs, unstable, and depleting their joint bank account. he was trying to get her to lose her job and it was obviously, she worked in a family operation within ubs, so it was a very serious thing, trying to part her and her family. the company determined shele was drug free and found that rod was taking much more money from their account than she was. the divorce got uglier. the two squabbled over child support. at one point a judge told rod he could no longer play backgammon. something he blamed on shele. she was taking away the thing he cared about the most. and her family took their private investigator over to her apartment to check out the scene. something caught their eye. the cabinet she supposedly grabbed, the screws had been pulled out of the wall. he thought that would have talken more force. it would have taken a lot of strength to pull the door off. something shele wouldn t be able to do? most likely. no doubt in your mind this is a staged accident? we believe it was a staged accident. but none of this was the smoking gun. the only way to know for sure was to do an autopsy. two months after her death at the family s urging, her body was pulled out of the grave and re-examined. detective was in the room with the medical examiner. what are you seeing and thinking? near the end of it, he looked at us and showed us the bone that it was broken. that s in the neck? inside the neck area. he said it will be a homicide. wow. and shele had been choked to death. coming up. the question was never is he going to kill shele? the question is always when. what do they have going for them with this jury? covlin had access. he was right across the hall. he had motive. and he is not a sympathetic guy. a trial of lies, secrets, and surprises. so this is getting ugly? yes. when dateline continues. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. nexgard® plus helps you protect your dog from fleas, ticks, heartworm disease, and more. all in one delicious, monthly, soft chew. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard® plus: the one you want for one-and-done protection. with powerful, easy-to-use tools, power e trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won t miss an opportunity. e trade from morgan stanley nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. i m richard lu with a news update. benny gantz is resigning from his post. he says netanyahu s real war to the victory of gaza. and president trump is set to virtually meet with a probation officer today. it comes a little over a week after his conviction on 34 felony counts in his historic hush money trial. trump s sentencing is set for july 11. now back to dateline. m andrea. two months after shele covlin died welcome back to dateline. i m andrea canning. two months after shele covlin died after suspicious circumstances, her family urged investigators to exhume her body and perform an autopsy. the medical examiner s chilling conclusion, shele was strangled to death. and then the investigation stalled and shele s loved ones feared the case would go unsolved, but they did not know even years later, authorities would have no intention of letting that happen. back now to endgame. shele covlin had been found dead in her bathtub in december of 2009. investigators long believe her husband, rod, killed her, but they didn t have enough evidence to prove it. after nearly six years of slowly building a case, prosecutors timely became convinced they had enough to persuade a jury. in november of 2015, shele s sister, eve, got word from the district attorney s office. she said we re about to arrest rod covlin for the murder of shele covlin. so i started to get very emotional. she says to me are you okay? i said i ve been waiting a really long time to hear those words. it would take three more years for rod s trial to begin. the people of the state of new york. and after waiting so long for justice, eve and her husband, mark, steeled themselves. why was it important for you to be there? so i can tell you on december 31, i said i m not leaving until they take shele s body out. when it comes to the trial, i said i will be there every single day, so she knows that i m there for her along with the rest of the family. there s only one person. reporter: prosecutor described rod covlin as a cold- blooded killer, determined to get his wife out of his life. take their children and seize her assets at any cost. and only one person had the motive, the opportunity, and the means to have done this. prosecutors admitted their case wasn t a tidy one ready for csi, but they put a lot of sir circumstantial evidence. he was across the hall and he s not a sympathetic guy. prosecutors presented witnesses who said rod didn t even try to hide his abuse of his wife. the family nanny told the jury at one point he had become enraged and violent. he said to me, rod threw her down on the floor. and when he asked her to go into the bedroom, she said she was scared of going in there with him because she doesn t know what he ll do. the prosecutor described shele as a textbook victim of domestic abuse. the question was never is he going to kill shele. the question is always when? shele was living in fear, prosecutors said, because her estranged husband was boiling with rage in their custody battle. shele s divorce attorney, lance meyer, took the stand to say how rod had even used his son as a weapon. mr. covlin took the children and accused shele of abusing miles. it turns out that he took them to the hospital and made allegations that shele had sexually abused their son. wow, so this is getting ugly? yes. prosecutors said those disturbing and false accusations were just one example of how rod was becoming unhinged. he was also obsessively tracking shele s every move with secretly installed software on her computer. rod told this coworker that it enabled him to read her e- mails. he was reading and he was upset with the number of people that she was talking to, and he was upset about the way he was being portrayed in her e-mails. by late 2009, he was also deeply in debt with virtually no income. still even with their divorce pending, he believed he would gain control of her $5 million estate if she died. but then rod found some e-mails shele sent just two days before her death. she reaches out to an attorney and also tells several people she wants to change her will and essentially write rod covlin out of the will. that s when rod snapped and hatched his plan. the night of december 30, her friend, melissa fields, saw her and sensed something was wrong. shele was nervous when we first met up and she was looking around quite a bit. i did ask her what the problem, if something was wrong. she was worried that her ex- husband was following her. on what would turn out to be her last night alive, shele remained in fear. it was all heavy on her mind when she got home to her apartment that night at 7:51, caught here on security cameras. later she log on to her online dating profile at 10:13. the last activity on any of her devices. rod, meanwhile, was across the hall. he was usually online playing backgammon late until the night, but suddenly his online presence stopped at 1:03 a.m. no sign of him until he popped up on the surveillance video in the lobby at 4:13 a.m. the allegation was that he wanted to be seen on camera. he wanted to make an alibi that this is a way of building an alibi. the prosecution called the new york state medical examiner. in the autopsy, he had noticed those scratches on her face. and that fractured bone in her neck. my conclusion was that she had died at the result of neck compression and i classified her death as a homicide. strangulation, not an accidental fall. in another sinister twist, prosecutors believe three and a half years after shele s death, rod drafted a note composed of his 12-year-old daughter s e- mail account pretending to be her. it read, i lied. she didn t just slip. i got so mad, so i pushed her. i didn t mean to hurt her, i swear. it was never sent, but it did hit the tabloids after it was filed with the court. what father does that? who does that to their child? who basically frames a child? right. prosecutors didn t get that note admitted into trial. they were about to bring forward a star witness whose explosive allegations would rock the courtroom. coming up. what was it like walking into that courtroom and seeing rod covlin in there? terrifying. she fell in love with one rod covlin. then she says she met the other. he said you have to help me kill my parents. when dateline continues. tid a proven choice to help restore what s yours. opzelura is the first and only fda-approved prescription treatment for nonsegmental vitiligo. proven to help repigment skin over time. restoring what s yours. it s possible with a steroid-free cream that you can apply yourself. opzelura can lower your ability to fight infections including tb or hepatitis b or c. serious lung infections, skin cancer, blood clots, and low blood cell counts occurred with opzelura. in people taking jak inhibitors, serious infections, increased risk of death, lymphoma, other cancers, and major cardiovascular events have occurred. the most common side effects were acne and itching where applied. repigmentation is possible. ask your dermatologist today about starting or refilling opzelura. pursue it. you re the one that i want nexgard® combo is the only monthly topical that protects against fleas, ticks, tapeworms, and more. use with caution in cats with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard combo,. you re the one that i want .the monthly one-and-done you want. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions. like what is your glucose and can you have more carbs? 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yes. in the trial of rod covlin, the closer turned out to be none other than deborah oles, his backgammon buddy and former lover. taking the stand, sunglasses on. what was it like walking into that courtroom and seeing rod covlin in there? terrifying. i had to look at him one time, once, and just to point him out and say that s who he is. deborah testified she got a late night call from rod on that fateful new year s day. he told me his wife had an accident, and died. my very first thought was that is a really weird coincidence in timing and that basically solves all of his problems. but then i felt guilty thinking about it because the paper said it was an accident. he said it was an accident. like he needed money? right. they ve broken up and then she dies? so it makes rod s life easier? right. then he was very adamant about his innocence, always. and after that, their long distance relationship progressed in fits and starts. they would often play backgammon online. deborah would drive from her home down south to tournaments, sometimes picking up rod in new york and taking him with her. and then one day in 2010, the police paid her a surprise visit. i answered all their questions, and i offered to give them a copy of the games that he would play, so they would have exact times we played and that was it. they thought he was guilty and said he was a very bad person. i didn t believe him at that time and i never saw the monster that i came to know until later. but the monster was lurking. she began to see how volatile rod could be. he had a temper that did not take much to set him off. she also saw terrible fights that he would have with his parents. by 2012, rod and his children were living with his parents in a new york city suburb and the fighting was constant. rod brought his arms back and shoved his father. his father went flying into the room, hit his head on the floor. eventually his parents evicted him. deborah said he hatched bizarre plots to kill his parents. she told the court about one he dreamt up when super storm sandy struck the east coast. he said that because there was no electricity, the alarms would not be on. he wanted to go through a window in the basement, kill his parents, and set his house on fire. i was just stunned. he was going to he wanted to go over there, kill his parents, set fire to the house, and somehow get his kids out safely. and you know, i discussed it with him for 15 minutes and i m like no, you re not going to do this. and then finally i said just how are you going to explain miraculously that you just happened to be there to save your children and finally, you know. he finally backed down. she said the poison plot that called for anna to participate. he wanted her to put rat poisoning in their food or sugar. how am i suppose to protect his parents if i don t know what he s plotting, you know? i can t be there and protect them if i m not there he won t let me know what s going on. you re helping the situation, being the voice of reason for rod? either try to talk him out of it or have enough proof to go to the police. by this time, deborah rented an apartment for herself and rod to live in north of new york city. but she was growing wary of his anger, exacerbated by his lured schemes. one day she testified things came to ahead. we were in the car driving, and he said to me, you have to help me kill my parents, and i said i m not going to help you kill your parents. he asked me like four, five times. finally i said i m not going to help you kill your parents. even if i wanted to, which i don t, you kill me too. and he had a creepy laugh. and he looked at me in a way like oh, you re just now figuring this out. and he said, no, i only want to kill the people who try to take my children away from me. did you believe now that rod killed shele? there was no question of doubt that he killed her at that point. finally rod and deborah split. in august of 2014, she called investigators and told them everything she knew. and now she told a jury and she was about to get grilled by rod covlin s defense attorneys. coming up. so is it fair to say, yes or no, you weren t jealous? no. i was mad at him. i was mad at him for a lot of reasons. questions and after nine years, an answer. charging the defendant, roderick covlin with the crime of murder in the second degree. how hard was it waiting for the verdict? oh my gosh, that was so painful. i had such butterflies. when dateline continues. but this is my story. 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[ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg s moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don s paying so much for at&t, he s been waiting to update his equipment! there s a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don t have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. andrea canning: welcome back. the prosecution s case against rod covlin ended with a bombshell. on the stand, his former lover, debra, welcome back. the prosecution s case against rod covlin ended with a bomb shell. on the stand, his former lover, deborah, described in chilling detail how after his wife, shele died, rod planned to kill his parents in order to regain custody of his children. his alleged targets were in the courtroom, hanging on every word. and now the defense was about to dissect deborah s story. here is the conclusion of endgame. carol covlin sat behind her son during the long weeks of trial. why was it important for you to be there? he s my son. i think any mother would do that for their child. you had to listen to your son being called a bum and abuser and a killer. how did you handle that? you want to call them liars, but you can t. and alleging that rod had wanted to kill you. and we are talking about arsenic, rat poisoning. reporter: deborah s claims were laughable. the alleged murder plots are a farce. and he tried to poke holes in deborah s testimony, starting with the stories of the plots. were you scared? yes. did you call the police? yes or no, did you call the police? no. he said deborah s stories of rod s temper didn t add up either. time and time again when she s saying he felt bullied by rod, she was afraid of him. the only thing she ever says in her e-mails is i love you. dear, i love you over and over again. despite her denials, gottlieb said deborah was crushed when their relationship ended. is it fair to say yes or no, you weren t jealous? no. i was mad at him. i was mad at him for a lot of reasons. and is it fair to say you have a history and admitted to being a habitual liar? that is disgusting and false. that is not true. the defense conceited rod wasn t always a stand up guy, but he said that didn t make him a murderer. you may despise him. you may not even be able to look at him. you may want to convict him to convict somebody of murder. there has got to be proof. there was none. zero evidence. no signs of a struggle. he said rod couldn t have slipped into her apartment and killed her like they argumented because there was no evidence he had a key. remember, rod said little anna let him in that morning. there has been no evidence he was ever in the apartment on december 30 or december 31 before 7:00 a.m. no evidence either they said about what had caused her injuries. they used back hose to exhume. they used shovels to get to the coffin. carol said there was nothing she heard in court to convince her shele s death was a tragic accident. when you see the photos, it doesn t look like she slipped and fell. not really if you look at her face, if she slipped and fell and hit her face. where did her scratches come from then? i mean you don t get scratches by falling in the bathtub. i have no idea. i just, you know, again, you re left with a conundrum. a conundrum that would never be solved because of bungling by investigators. and you did not have any of those interviews on december 31, correct? not that i recall, sir. investigators had not dusted for fingerprints or collected dna samples. there was a long list of what investigators hadn t done at the scene. every single viewer would know that that s not the way you investigate a suspicious scene if there is a remote possibility that it could be a homicide. it was disgraceful. in a bold move, the defense rested without calling any witnesses. after more tan eight weeks, it was up to the jury to decide. was this an accident or a cold- blooded murder? how hard was it waiting for the verdict? oh my gosh, that was so painful. i had such butterflies. that was bad. they didn t have to wait long. after only a day of deliberations, the jury was back. charging the defendant, roderick covlin with the crime of murder in the second degree, guilty or not guilty? guilty. do you want to pull the jurors? guilty. i have been through a lot of trials and i don t know if i have ever seen that many tears and hugs and it was incredible to watch your family. it wasn t a moment of celebration, but a moment of relief for fear of what would have been if the wrong verdict came down. outside the courthouse, family and friends gathered. after all this time, they felt like they could breathe again. the first thing i thought was this is just for shele and she can finally rest. deborah hopes she can rest now too. the prosecution star witness is happy the jury believed her. it was like a huge weight has been lifted off of me, and i m finally like completely, you know, it s done. do you regret the day you met rod covlin? i do. i red light do. one of his biggest supporters is his daughter, anna. both children live with rod s parents. how are the children doing? they re holding it together as best they could. shele s children are growing up without much contact with shele s side of the family. is there anything that you want the children to know about their mother and how you feel about them? their mother with every breath she took and every ounce of her, she adored them. that s all for this edition of dateline. i m andrea canning. thank you for watching. i m craig melvin and this is dateline. something is wrong here. the system doesn t want to acknowledge that they made a mistake, but you made a mistake. the detective was like you tell us you did this?

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the superpowers, where are we heading now? scratch away at the surface of european sentiment, european sensibility, what you find is anxiety about peace and security. south africa has punished its ruling party for 30 years of failing government. but how does the chastened anc now select partners for the way forward? it is highly expected that the african national congress will come up with a coalition, even though it will be uneasy, but one that will be manageable. and immigration the great issue in so many of the 60 plus elections which are taking place around the world this year how does it affect us? we live in a much more globalised world. it s easier to travel. that has, you know, created movements of people around the planet which are presenting real challenges for governments. newsreel: the allied invasion of europe from the west - is launched d day. the start of d day 80 years ago was heralded by the broadcast of a couple of lines from a verlaine poem, ordering a particular french resistance circuit to start blowing up railway lines. very soon, british, american, canadian, free french and other troops stormed ashore to start the recapture of europe from the nazis. this anniversary seems like a good moment to look at where our world is today. the west in visible decline, russia fighting a war of aggression in europe, china stamping out ideological opposition wherever it can. rightly or wrongly, there s starting to be a kind of pre war feeling about our times. allan little is the bbc s special correspondent. he s reported on many of the major events of the past 35 years. i think we re definitely in a period of anxiety and fear, and i think the change of policy in russia in february 2022 realigned the world. you and i lived through the revolutions of 1989, which saw the reunification of europe. so, the period of peace that we ve enjoyed over the last 80 years is certainly more fragile than it s been at any time during our lives, john. donald tusk of poland, for instance, the british defence secretary, grant shapps, and plenty of others talking about no longer being in a post war world but in a pre war world. the threat of a resurgent, imperialist russia is very real. the collapse of the westernising, democratising experiment in post soviet russia amounted to one question what are the political consequences of this degree of destitution and humiliation that the russians were experiencing in the late 1990s? we knew what russia was in transition from. we didn t yet know what russia was in transition to. well, we know the answer now. the answer is that russia reverted to type, if you like. undeeradimir putin, it became authoritarian, dictatorial, and it s allied with changes in china and changes in iran and elsewhere. so, the world is reordering itself in quite a menacing way. do you feel that the 80th anniversary of the d day landings, which is where all of this started, we re now shifting to deep nervousness, instead ofjust patting ourselves on the back, as we have on most d day anniversaries? with the 80th anniversary, we ve lost the living testimony. there s now almost nobody left alive. and i think it s very important to remember notjust what they did in 191m and 1945, but the kind of europe they came home to build after the war. and they wanted a europe that would turn the page on centuries of division in europe. france and germany had gone to war with each other something like four times in the previous century. in 1945, they wanted to build a europe where that wasn t possible any more. where are we, say, in comparison with the past? this is a period of huge anxiety. i feel anxiety myself. you and i have seen war up close. we ve seen genocide up close. we know what it looks like. we know what it sounds like. we know what it smells like. and ifear, in western europe in particular, the danger of complacency. and i think that europe divides on this question as well, between the west and east. one of the things that s happened since 1989 is that eastern europe now, which initially welcomed in 1989, welcomed the westernising process, welcomed being brought into the european union, there is a populist drive in many of these eastern and central european countries against westernisation. they feel that the western model has been imposed upon them, or sufficient numbers of the population feel a western model that they don t recognise, don t feel comfortable with. .. the iconic figure of that position is viktor orban in hungary, who has said himself that he wants a kind of illiberal democracy. seems to me the big danger is complacency, is saying, we re not living in 1913. we re not living in 1938. we might be. can it really be that europe s whole future, everything has turned around because of one man s attitudes, because of vladimir putin solely deciding to invade ukraine and so on? or are there bigger principles behind him? under him, russia reverted to type, if you like, went back to the imperialism and the authoritarianism that had characterised both tsarist russia and communist russia. and so there is an appetite in russia for this kind of. ..self definition, this kind of.this characterisation of the nature of the russian state. and i suspect that what we re doing now is walking along the edge of the razor blade, but that at some stage, we ll get over it. what are you? are you pessimistic or optimistic? i err towards pessimism these days, john. even today, 80 years on, the europeans still think of that moment, that 1944 45 moment, in very, very different terms and still think of the post war decades in which they built the institutions of european democracy. they think about them differently to the british. for the british, it was a transactional. it was about trade. scratch away at the surface of european sentiment, european sensibility, what you find is anxiety about peace and security, rather than trade and the economy. and i think that is rooted in the different experience of the 1940s. south africa has marked the 30th anniversary of majority rule with an election which has cut the african national congress, the party of nelson mandela, down to size. crime, corruption, the failure of basic services, like power and water, have infuriated huge numbers of south africans. even though mk the breakaway party of the man who symbolises corruption for many people, former presidentjacob zuma actually did very well. contrary to expectation, the economic freedom fighters, under their fiery leader, julius malema, faded badly, while the democratic alliance, which runs the western cape and is usually called business friendly, which means it gets the support of most white people, held its position with 21% of the vote but didn t noticeably thrive. so, now the anc has lost its overall majority, president cyril ramaphosa, an instinctive moderate, has to decide which of these groups to form a coalition with. i asked nomsa maseko, the bbc s southern africa correspondent, what she thought about the result. absolutely shocked at the loss of the african national congress but not really surprised because it was expected. people of south africa have grown tired of promises made and not kept. they are tired of high levels of violent crime, unemployment, the rolling blackouts which have crippled the economy, the day to day service delivery issues, like running water, you know, and the collection of rubbish, things like that, even though they are loyal to the anc government because of the history that south africa has in terms of, you know, apartheid. they know and appreciate what the anc and other liberation movements did for them back then. but this is a message by south africans to say that the honeymoon is over for the anc. but surely cyril ramaphosa cannot go into a coalition with jacob zuma or his people? there are people within the executive council of the anc that are saying that cyril ramaphosa, as president of this country and president of the anc, should resign from his position because this is the lowest point that the anc has ever got in, in terms of election results. in the last elections in 2019, the anc got about 57% of the vote, and this time around, they re barely holding on to a 40% majority. how likely is it that cyril ramaphosa can do some kind of deal with another party, or another couple of parties? the democratic alliance, for instance. the anc acknowledges that there will be concessions that they have to make if they want to continue to lead, if cyril ramaphosa is to continue as president of the country. because if not, then the anc will have to sit in the opposition benches and allow the other parties to form a coalition and then govern, which is at this stage highly unlikely. but the democratic alliance has said that it is willing to go into a coalition with the african national congress, but in that there s going to be, you know, clashes in terms of policy and ideology because the democratic alliance is pro israel, the anc is pro palestine, the democratic alliance is also against the policy of black economic empowerment. and that will be a hard pill to swallow for the anc, which is trying with that policy to fix the wrongs of the past. and, of course, the democratic alliance is seen, rightly or wrongly, as being a white run party, isn t it? absolutely. south africans, even though they know that it s been 30 years into democracy, they still have the memories of what it was like not to be in control of their lives, of their economy, of where they go and not go. so there s a lot of misgivings. now, the one name that we haven t mentioned here isjulius malema of the economic freedom fighters. and they did really quite badly, didn t they? they are now officially the fourth, you know, party, biggest party. but, you know, julius malema delivered one of his most modest speeches when he said that he believes that the electorate has decided what they wanted. but also he believes that the economic freedom fighters received the votes of the black middle class. and he believes that they will still be able to continue, you know, to be in the opposition benches, but also there could be a chance that the african national congress itself would want to form a coalition with the economic freedom fighters. will we have a government soon, or in the medium term, or is it going to take for ever? in the next, say, 20 days after these coalition, you know, negotiations have taken place. parliament needs to sit before the end ofjune, and that is where a president is going to have to be appointed. and it is highly expected that the african national congress will come up with a coalition, even though it will be uneasy but one that will be manageable. poor mexico, so far from god and so close to the united states. the rueful words of the 19th century mexican dictator poor mexico, so far from god and so close to the united states. the rueful words of the 19th century mexican dictator porfirio diaz. things have got even worse since then. floods of illegal migrants from all over latin america pass through mexico on their way to the us, and the drugs cartels smuggle immense quantities of synthetic opioids to the huge and growing american market. the drugs trade made this the most violent presidential campaign ever in mexico. 102 political assassinations, as well as kidnappings and attempted murders. and yet in all this, claudia sheinbaum, the former mayor of mexico city and a joint nobel prize winner for her work on climate change, won a landslide victory. the first woman to become mexico s president. she is the protege of the popular outgoing president, andres manuel lopez 0brador, who s known from his initials as amlo. but can claudia sheinbaum, even with amlo s support, sort out mexico s problems? and what was the cause of the landslide anyway? i turned to daniel pardo of bbc mundo in mexico city. andres manuel lopez 0brador, the current president who s been in powerfor the last six years. and he s managed to have people happy, really. increasing their salaries, poverty has been reduced from 40% to 36% average. 0bviously, violence is still a problem. insecurity is a huge problem for people. sheinbaum has become or was a very. ..a candidate that gave people the idea that those policies that enlarge their pockets are still going to be in place. that added to the fact that the opposition is fragmented, divided, that they are trying to attack a very popular president who had to deal with the pandemic, still has 60% of people s support that s a huge number for a latin american president. but it does sound from what you say as though amlo, lopez 0brador, will want to keep a foot in politics, will want to control her, if he can. that s the question that everyone s asking at the moment. how is she going to govern? how autonomous is she going to be? their relationship. although they are part of the same movement, they have major differences. it s not only about their background, they come from different sort of lefts because amlo is part of this old left in mexico that s very rooted in the revolution, that is very nationalist. it s very traditional in their economic and especially development ideas. sheinbaum, she s a physicist who went to university. she has got a phd. she s an expert in climate change. she was part of a team who won the nobel prize because of their contribution to climate change studies. she s a woman, right, in a very macho country. and that s why everyone s asking, how is she going to be autonomous and how much is he going to control her? he has said and promised that he s going to retire, that he s going to go to his farm, and he s not going to be involved in politics. this election campaign in particular has been very violent, hasn t it? and there s all the question about the drugs trade with the united states and so on. so, violence is still a major problem. the six years in which amlo was in power were the most violent in history in terms of homicides. and, yes, this campaign killed at least a0 candidates who were running for office in different parts of the country. so, yeah, violence, it is a problem. however, i think most mexicans have got used to it and have realised that that s not a problem that any government, one single government, one single politician, could fix. people are happy because their pockets are filled with money and they re being able to consume as much as they want. this is a very dynamic economy. the choice that americans are going to make in the united states is going to have such an effect on mexico, isn t it? most of mexican foreign policy is regarding the us, either if it s a democrat or a republican. 0bviously, trump did. ..emerge with the different issues, but it wasn t that different, really. i mean, you see the relationship that he had with amlo. it was a very pragmatic relationship. obviously, it s a huge source of income for mexicans. a huge portion of the gdp here in mexico has to do with money that mexicans in the united states send to theirfamilies here in mexico. it s a tricky relationship, but at the end, pragmatism does take place and does make the rule of the relationship, no matter who is in power. big countries have attracted immigrants throughout history. there are always people who want to better themselves financially, and there are always large amounts ofjobs to fill which local people don t want to do. but in the modern world, with wars and the effects of global heating, immigration has become a majorforce for social change. entire cities have been transformed as a result of the hostility which this can create. it has been responsible in many countries for the rise of an angry populism. i asked the bbc home affairs specialist, mark easton, for his views on the changes that immigration has brought to modern society. you have to understand we live in a much more globalised world. it s easier to travel from one place to another, and that has changed things and also our understanding of the world. and i think that has, you know, created movements of people around the planet, which, as you rightly say, are presenting real challenges for governments. there was this extraordinary movement of people back in the noughties, after the expansion of the eu. we saw all the poles come in. suddenly, actually, britain was experiencing immigration in a way it never had before. that, i think, changed the way that a lot of communities felt about immigration. it had not been something they d experienced before. and then i think you should wind the clock on and you get to brexit. and that i think was to a significant extent about communities who felt that they had not been informed about what was going to happen. and, of course, what we ve seen, almost as soon as the ink was dry on the brexit final deal, immigration soared. i mean, notjust soared, john, but went to levels that we have never, ever experienced in this country. if you go back to 2022, we saw three quarters of a million net migration to this country. so, i think given that there is now rising anxiety about, actually, do we have control of our borders? which matters a lot. and are we making the right decisions on when we bring people in? and that leads you into the other bit of all of this, which is what the government calls illegal migration, a term which is contested, i should say, but certainly irregular migration. so, these are people who are. like, for instance, those coming over in small boats or hiding in the back of lorries, and they are coming principally to seek asylum in the united kingdom. that, just to give you some context, represents about 6% of all the migration that we have. so, the rest is legal? the rest is legal. the government has invited those people to come to the uk, has given them a visa and said, in you come. yeah, we ve got a job for you. this is, what, to be nurses? care workers and nurses. doctors? doctors. i mean, i know zimbabwe very well, where nurses are really needed, and doctors. of course. ..and bringing them here to a rich country. notjust the uk, but other european nations, sort of. ..absorbing vast numbers of key workers who are actually required desperately in their countries of origin. now, to some extent, this is about, you know, the freedom of the individual to decide how they want to pursue their career. but equally, i think there is a responsibility on the rich countries to ensure that they re not impoverishing the countries from which these people come. and here is the real rub. if you want to reduce immigration and not have to pay the really significant penalty of not having anyone to care for your ailing grandmother, we re going to have to pay more. and that means that money is going to have to come from somewhere, and it essentially means you cut something else or you put up taxes. and that is the unpalatable reality that we have. ..we have got ourselves in a situation where we are prepared to bring in large numbers of people to do jobs at low rates that local people are not prepared to do. but an awful lot of people are coming in from countries which are just simply poorer. and they want the kind of salaries that are paid in britain, but also in western europe and the us. there is a huge debate, political debate, certainly, about, what is an economic migrant? what is a genuine asylum seeker? where you have conflict, the countries that border that conflict, i m sure you will have been to many of them, are suddenly overwhelmed by huge numbers of refugees. they haven t got the resources. they re often poor countries themselves, trying to deal with these. how do we have a fair, equitable system that means that those countries are not penalised, really, purely by their geography, while rich countries further away can say, nothing to do with us ? mark easton speaking to me here in london. we re getting punch drunk, aren t we, with elections? there s the south african one and the mexican one, which we ve heard about in this programme. the european parliament elections begin this week. and there s the indian one, of course. and injuly, we ll have the british one. nigel farage, who played a big part in persuading britain to vote for brexit in 2016, has thrown a hand grenade into the election campaign here by announcing he was taking over the leadership of the small reform party and would stand for parliament, despite having lost seven parliamentary campaigns over the years. and of course, there s the united states, where the election result could genuinely change the future of the world. lots of media experts think that donald trump s conviction on 3a charges of falsifying his accounts to hide the hush money he paid the porn actress stormy daniels has nudged the pendulum an inch or so injoe biden s favour. but we re likely to have televised debates in which literally anything could happen between two ancient men of 77 and 81. i m just weeks away from turning 80 myself, so i m allowed to say all this. at which point, everyone, everywhere wonders how a country as vast and talented as the us can only turn up a couple of men like biden and trump for the presidency. but that s a story for another day. thank you for being with us for this edition of unspun world. from me and the unspun team, until we meet again, goodbye. hello there. weather for the week ahead is perhaps not the story you want. no significant summer sunshine or warmth, i m afraid. in fact, the story in armagh on sunday really sets the scene just a high of ten degrees. we had cloudy skies with light rain or drizzle with a cool northerly wind as well. now, that rain is sinking its way steadily southwards and it will clear away from eastern england and south east england during monday morning. behind it, this northerly wind and this cooler air source starts to kick in across the country. so a rash of showers, a cold, brisk wind driving those showers in off exposed coasts and drifting their way steadily south across scotland and northern ireland as we go through the morning. here s our cloud and rain still lingering across east yorkshire, lincolnshire first thing in the morning, some heavier bursts that will ease away. best of any brighter skies, perhaps across southern england down to the south west. here, showers should be few and further between. but nevertheless, that wind direction still really digging in right across the country. so sunny spells, scattered showers, a brisk northwesterly wind for many, so temperatures just below par really for this time of year, a maximum of 10 15 degrees for most. we might see highs of 17 or 18 if we get some sunshine across south west england and wales. now, as we move out of monday into tuesday, the low pressure drifts off to scandinavia, high pressure builds. it should start to kill off some of the showers out to the west. but with those clearing skies, well, those temperatures will be below path through the night as well, low single figures for some, quite a chilly start to our tuesday morning. hopefully some sunshine around on tuesday. there will continue to be some showers, most frequent ones running down through central and eastern scotland and england. further west, some brighter skies and once again, highs of 17 degrees, but for many, just a maximum of 10 15 once again. moving out of tuesday into wednesday, winds will fall lighter still for a time, but there s another low pushing in and that will bring some wetter weather to close out the end of the working week. it will gradually start to change the wind direction. so, after a drier day on wednesday, it will turn that little bit milder, but also wetter as we head into the weekend. this live from washington, this is bbc news. emmanuel macron calls for a snap election after his alliance is defeated by the far right european parliament vote. elsewhere in the elections, voters snub the governing parties of germany, spain and belgium, the prime minister of italy and poland had cause to celebrate. benny gantz quits and demands an election. he calls for benjamin netanyahu to hold an election. hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. france is going to the polls again. the country s president, emmanuel macron, called a snap parliamentary vote sunday night after his centrist alliance was trounced by the far right in european parliament elections. in a speech after exit polls were released, he said he could not ignore the results and the dissolving parliament is an act of trust in the french people. translation: the rise - of nationalists and demagogues is a danger for our nation but also for europe, is a danger for our nation but also for our europe, for france s position in europe and in the world. and i say this even though we have just celebrated with the whole world the normandy landing, and as in a few weeks we will welcome the world for the olympic and paralympic games. yes, the far right is both the result of the impoverishment of the french and the downgrading of our country, so at the end of this day, i cannot act as if nothing has happened.

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[siren blaring] police officer: i need traffic stopped, southbound 10. steve pyne: fire has been on earth as long as plants have been on land. police officer: follow me! follow me! steve pyne: but we get a big shift when a species arrives who can start fire at will. police officer: go, go, go, go! go south! steve pyne: i think humans have been changing the earth for a long time. police officer: come down this way! come down this way! steve pyne: we ve lost the ability to understand how fire works and how it can be used to our advantage. police officer: [indistinct] the fire has jumped the road. this is bad. steve pyne: we ve mismanaged fire. now we get fires that are really off the scale, shouldn t be here, shouldn t be behaving in this way. and now we re left with these monsters. and it is remaking the world. police officer: (voice breaking) it s all bad up here, brother. it s all bad. oh, my god. [thunder crackling] welcome to violent earth. i m liev schreiber. scientists say wildfires are more frequent and burning bigger. in the past, a 50,000 or 60,000 acre fire was considered big. these days, firefighters are often dealing with fires well above 100,000 acres. according to government statistics, during the 1990s, an average of 3 million acres a year burned in the united states. since 2000, that number has more than doubled. in 2020 alone, over 10 million acres were consumed. the experts say 85% to 90% of wildfires are caused by human activity. tonight, violent earth takes a look at this roaring force of nature, starting with the mega fire that burned through paradise, california, in 2018. [police radio chatter] kory honea: the camp fire was the deadliest and most destructive fire in california s history. [shouting] john messina: it was almost 200 days since we had received any rainfall in that particular area. the wind was very dry and blowing in gusts of 70 miles an hour. kory honea: the town of paradise at the time of the camp fire was about 26,000 people. alexander maranghides: a town built in the forest. there was a lot of vegetation, topography, wind, drought. all these things contributed to make this event unfold very rapidly. police officer: go double lanes! go double lanes! and very catastrophically. kory honea: the fire was caused by a downed electrical transmission line. camp creek road was the nearest named road to the ignition. and that s why this is the camp fire. tamra fisher: oh, this is horrible. oh, my gosh. oh, my gosh. these poor people. i ve lived in paradise since 1979. i prepared for years for this exact moment. i knew fire was was bad. i ve always respected it. tamra is my little sister. she s raw, and she s funny. this, too, could be you. tamra was not as concerned about the wildfires as i was. and that morning, i got out of there pretty fast. tamra texted me and asked me what was happening. and i said, get out, t. get out. paradise is going to burn down. but possibly, the cell towers were starting to burn in that area. i don t believe she got my text. tamra fisher: can we please get out of here? larry laczko: tamra had her three dogs in the car with her. tamra fisher: it s 9 o clock in the morning. larry laczko: she was recording the events on her cell phone. tamra fisher: i m really scared. and i don t got that much gas! she was stressed that she was not making progress getting away from the fire. tamra fisher: come on! just go! i m so scared! [honking horn] todd abel: these fires, it s very, very intense heat. ignite a tree without flame touching it. all at once, the tree lights up sort of like a roman candle. paul hessburg: and when a wildfire is really moving fast, it can burn five to 10 football fields in a second. it s millions of hot embers that can find so many places to ignite a fire. sometimes the winds are so strong that they are tossed up to five miles. brad elder: the drier it is outside, the probability of that ember is going to stay lit and the fuel that it lands in is approaching 100%. [police radio chatter] paul hessburg: paradise, california, burned from an ember attack from a plume miles away from paradise. kory honea: this is, like, 9 o clock in the morning, and it s pitch black. given the smoke, it almost appeared as though it was the middle of the night and it was snowing. ash and embers began to rain down. john messina: the fire was moving at a football field per second. and the way it did that, of course, was by jumping ahead and starting these fires. they would immediately take hold and rapidly grow into a 100-acre, 200-acre spot fire. that was happening all through town. alexander maranghides: that resulted in the town starting to burn all at once. 30,000 people were trying to be evacuated while being overran by fire. police officer: go forward and turn around. turn around and go north. turn around and go north. [bleep] this is bad. larry laczko: a firefighter told tamra to follow him down pearson road. cindy christensen: tamra was behind them. but the traffic stopped. tamra fisher: no! [honking horn] larry laczko: everything around her was burning. tamra fisher: look at that. cars on the side burning. and nobody was moving. tamra fisher: go! it s so hot. todd abel: these fires, they can be well over 2,000 degrees. they melt metal. they melt cars. and you can hear her dogs panting in the back. [dogs whimpering] tamra fisher: ugh! and her despair. tamra fisher: what did i do? come on! paul hessburg: the increase in wildfires in the current 21st century is exponential. california is seeing its worst year ever for wildfires. canada in general right now for this fire season. 33.8 million acres have already burned. brad elder: and we generally think of fire as bad because most wildfires are dangerous. mark finney: but it s very important to try to understand really the essential role that fire has in our ecosystems and the beneficial role. steve pyne: fire is not some kind of alien visitation on the landscape. fire has been on earth as long as plants have been on land. we can go back 420 million years and find fossil charcoal. these landscapes have, in a sense, co-evolved with fire. kristen honig: fires are good for the planet. they have lots of roles in ecosystem health. brad elder: there s so many different plants and animals that respond positively to fires. paul hessburg: the varied habitats come from the byproducts of a wildfire. the forests of western north america, including the western united states, need fire. they evolved with fire. what is new is the frequency of very large fires is increasing. steve pyne: it kills people, threatens properties and towns. they re essentially uncontrollable at scale. paul hessburg: wildfires are burning at the rate of 7 to 10 million acres of the us every year. this is unprecedented. it s getting worse. paul hessburg: we expect double to triple the amount of area burned between now and 2050. well, how did that happen? [music playing] [siren blaring, police radio chatter] karen davis: i was a registered nurse at feather river hospital in paradise. we received a code black get patients out now. and the flames were unbelievable that came up the canyon. my best friend, nichole, was also a nurse at feather river hospital. we worked together. karen davis: ambulances were not able to get to us. patients had to be put in employee vehicles. dispatcher: 10-4, chief, go ahead. karen davis: after we got all the patients in vehicles, nichole and i left following each other. steve pyne: 1910 was really the founding year for the american way of firefighting. reporter: the big blowup. a wild surging firestorm started near elk city, idaho. paul hessburg: the 1910 big burn. it burned 3 million acres across three states, killed 87 people, mostly firefighters. and our awareness and our whole consciousness about fire pivoted in that moment. reporter: this is a picture of tragedy, a tragedy that happens year after year in our great american forest areas fire. fire became public enemy number one. and wildfires were to be put out at all cost. steve pyne: and at that point, we almost militarized firefighting. kyle dickman: we were really good at it. firefighters could put out 99% of fires before they grew bigger than an acre. paul hessburg: and from about 1935 to about 1985, you see not much fire burning. and it made our fire suppression look great. steve pyne: and that was a very poor judgment. well, they completely misjudged the character of the overall fire scene. paul hessburg: what s happened since the exclusion of fire is forests have gotten denser. the forests of today look nothing like they did in the 1930s. there are 10 times even more trees than that on the landscape of the historical condition. and they will burn bigger and they ll burn hotter than they burned historically. and what we didn t know in those days and we ve learned later through research is, fire is medicine on the landscape, and it s how we can live safely. and here s why that s so critical. it was the frequency of the small- and medium-sized fires that blocked the flow of very large fires. you might burn out a patch in a forest, but the bulk of the force is still standing there. mark finney: fires that just burn underneath the trees, maybe some grass, maybe some downed logs. paul hessburg: so there s power in the patchwork to regulate how big and how severe the fires got. so fires would be rarely very large. so after a century and a half without fire, fuels have built up over many large areas to powder keg conditions. but the worst part of it is, we re actually building homes in the middle of this mess. and so when we get a large fire, houses and forests literally go up in smoke. and as the climate continues to turn up the heat and dry out the landscape, what we see after 85 is that area burned increases exponentially. and it continues to increase today. fires like paradise, the camp fire. alexander maranghides: the town of paradise had not seen any fire history in the past 100-plus years. paul hessburg: they re setting new records for area burned and structures that are burned. and it s because the fires are literally uncontrollable. police officer: i copy that. [honking horn] tamra fisher: i m scared! cindy christensen: tamra was beating on her horn, screaming to go, go, go, go. tamra fisher: come on! cindy christensen: nothing was moving. larry laczko: tamra was driving a yellow volkswagen beetle. somebody shot a video from behind her showing her out of her volkswagen. that firestorm came roaring through. it was unreal. her car was on fire. she was screaming for help. tamra fisher: help! cindy christensen: tamra was on pearson road. alexander maranghides: pearson is one of the top five worst situations in all of camp fire. the fire overtakes evacuating, gridlocked traffic. everything is on fire all at once. vehicles start catching on fire. 40 abandoned vehicles in that 6/10 of a mile. and this created a very, very dangerous situation. nichole s car was trapped with me right on pearson road. nichole jolly: that tree could come down on me at any moment. this is ridiculous. and i m stuck. [bleep] tamra fisher: oh, my god. it s everywhere. in tamra s video, you could see my white truck, and you can see nichole s silver sedan. people just sitting there. nothing was moving. tamra fisher: this is a [bleep] nightmare. just come on! oh, my god. karen davis: all of a sudden, i could feel my truck drop, which meant my tires were burning. and right in the middle of that, i heard a knock on the window. nichole got out of her car because her car had caught on fire. she tried to open the door, but the handles were gone from the outside. they had melted away. so she ran off. i had no idea where she was. [music playing] craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office. 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call them firenadoes, will happen as a consequence of these phenomenal surface wind speeds. woman: oh, my they move incredibly fast when they get up and go. and they re really quite horrific. mark finney: wildfires ignite from lots of different sources. steve pyne: before humans were around, this was almost always lightning. volcanic activity can start fires. that s a natural ignition, we often call it. steve pyne: humans probably account for 90% of the ignition in the united states and probably around the world. reporter: investigators say a wildfire near yosemite national park was started by an unattended campfire. reporter: power lines were blamed for starting 10 fires this year. violent and explosive wildfires in hawaii fueled by strong winds from a hurricane 800 miles away. reporter: maui locals have never seen anything like the firestorm that obliterated lahaina. winds of up to 80 miles an hour. erin burnett: tee dang was on vacation with her family. the flames so dangerously close that they were forced to jump into the ocean to save themselves. tee dang: it was just like a hot oven fire flaming, blowing at us. and then we started just huddling in and trying to keep our family tight so we won t get burned from the fire and then get washed away from the water. reporter: the lahaina fire is now the deadliest fire in the us in more than a century. reporter: this will rank as one of the worst disasters in american history. it s as bad as paradise, california, the deadliest fire from a few years back. larry laczko: that morning, when i turned on pearson road, i hit gridlock. we were just inching along when i came upon tamra and her burning vw beetle on the side of the road. she just opened her door. i heard tamra say, i need help putting out this fire. i told her, you need to get into my truck. but she seemed like she wanted to stay with the car. i know she had some treasured belongings. but she had to get away from that. tamra fisher: i m sorry, lucky. i m crying. karen davis: nichole got out of her car because her car was on fire. she knocked on my window. and she tried to open the door, but couldn t. so she ran off. i was dazed from the smoke. and i didn t know where she went. everybody was in a panic, just trying to survive. larry laczko: i did witness people running to a cal fire fire engine. we couldn t believe that they were outside. the temperature inside the engine at that point was probably around 150, 160 degrees. at some point, the outside of the engine probably took temperatures of 600 degrees. we started pulling people into the engine, as many as we could. but we just didn t have any more room. larry laczko: we were still trying to inch along. tamra fisher: [indistinct speech] [crying] and suddenly, out of the darkness came the headlights of a bulldozer driven by a cal fire hero, pushing burning vehicles off the side of the road beside us. john jessen: joe kennedy, he was able to get those cars out of our way and be able to open up that road and give us a means of escape. alexander maranghides: the dozer comes in, helps clear the area, and enables the first responders to escort the convoy out of harm s way. karen davis: that eventually saved our lives. i did wonder what happened to nichole. i remember it was so hot, my eyes and my throat were burning. i ran up the road. and i m closing my eyes because you can t see anything. and i touched the back of this fire engine. the firefighters looked at me, and they were like, oh my gosh. karen davis: and i later learned nichole was one of the people that ran into the fire engine. nichole jolly: the firefighters absolutely saved our lives. i waited all day for tamra. i didn t hear anything. i was so scared. if i wouldn t have had my dogs, i probably would have ran on foot. having larry open the truck door and tell me to get in and then said, bring the dogs, it was like a knight in shining armor. i got a text from somebody i didn t know, this gentleman, larry. i found out that he had saved tamra. i feel that i was in the wrong place at the right time. tamra fisher: oh, my god. karen davis: and when we finally did get through, it was like an apocalypse. tamra fisher: oh, my gosh. it s like you re seeing this destruction that you only see in, like, movies. it s gone. larry laczko: it s gone. tamra fisher: it s gone. look, that house is gone. larry laczko: yep. tamra fisher: and that house is gone. and to see that devastation, it was surreal. yeah, my sister s just right up here. it s all gone. cindy christensen: our neighborhood, our house, there was nothing left. nothing. it was decimated. we lost everything, except for the clothes on our backs. nichole holly: the flames engulfed the hospital, and the roof collapsed. kory honea: it consumed 18,000 structures. 15,000 of those structures were homes, places where people lived. karen davis: and i learned. the next road up from where we were trapped, that s where five people died trying to run from the flames. 85 people lost their lives. there s nowhere you can go in butte county where you don t run into somebody who was burned out of their home or knew somebody who perished in the fire. todd abel: all over the western united states, these fires are more intense. wildland firefighters are a big part of trying to mitigate these natural disasters. hotshots are sort of a breed of their own. kyle dickman: hotshot firefighters are crews of 20 people, men and women. desiree steed: they fight fire from the frontlines. kyle dickman: their job is to go anywhere in the country where there s a bad fire. and they ll spend as long as two weeks or three weeks on a single fire. i m a former granite mountain hotshot. it s really not a job. it s a lifestyle and career. kyle dickman: the granite mountain hotshots were a hotshot crew. came from the city of prescott, arizona. eric marsh was the superintendent of the granite mountain hotshots. a very meticulous man, very intelligent. and then there was jesse steed. desiree steed: jesse was the captain. so he was second in command. prior to that, he was also in the marine corps. he was tough, 6 4 and 220 pounds. always put his family first, his kids first. brendan mcdonough: jesse was a mentor, and he was a dad that i so desperately wanted to be like. desiree steed: he could handle all kinds of excruciating, backbreaking labor and work and actually enjoyed it. [music playing] todd abel: in arizona, june is usually kind of that month where everybody s hair on the back of your neck stands up, and we start getting higher temperatures. the relative humidity drops. the fuel moistures drop. kyle dickman: it was just perfectly primed for extreme fire behavior. todd abel: we start getting monsoon buildups, which sometimes throw out the dry lightning, which starts fires. the morning of june 30, the hotshots on the crew were woken up by a phone call. we got to go. we got a fire in yarnell. a lightning strike from a couple of days ago started multiple fires. it was about 500 acres. the reason this fire was concerning was that it was on a ridgeline above a town. todd abel: there was peeples valley to the north. and then to the south-southeast was the town of yarnell. i remember getting out of the buggy, and jesse was like, hey, grab grab extra water today. it s going to be hot. todd abel: there s different strategies in wildland firefighting. we use fixed-wing airplanes and rotor-wing helicopters to help reduce the intensity of the fire. then we can get our men and women on there, our boots on the ground i call it, to actually finish putting it out. [chainsaw buzzing] john jessen: most effective, especially when fires are larger and stuff, is removing the fuels, creating control lines. kyle dickman: what they re doing is they re taking away what the fire eats so the fire can t burn it. once you get to the edge of the fire, that s when the work really starts. yeah! ow! it s not just the backbreaking work of digging. digging, digging, digging for days on end. kyle dickman: they use chainsaws a lot. brendan mcdonough: you re removing everything for miles on end. so if that tree is 60 feet tall, you re cutting that entire tree down. it s not for the faint of heart. sometimes we do use fire to fight fires. kristen honig: using drip torches to burn the fuel in a controlled fashion so that by the time the main flaming front got there, there would be no more fuel for it to burn. and that would stop the fire s advance. todd abel: a lot of times, we ll do a lot of those firing operations at night, where we have better control over what that looks like. kyle dickman: so june 30, the yarnell hill fire is just ripping to the north. and the priority is to stop this fire on the northern edge. and we start hiking in. we were on the fire s edge. the flaming front was two to three miles long. probably had 20-, 30-foot flame lengths. kyle dickman: jesse steed asked brendan donut mcdonough to act as a lookout down in the valley below the ridgeline. brendan mcdonough: and i hiked into my lookout spot closer towards the active edge of the fire, and i m at a lower elevation. [music playing] i got the word from our fire behavior analyst that called and said, hey, we got some thunderstorm developments developing north of us. kyle dickman: thunderstorms are extremely dangerous to firefighters because they create erratic winds. and erratic winds create erratic fire behavior. todd abel: that s what changes our environment. and that s what causes our injuries and some of our fatalities. kyle dickman: it was a warning to the hotshots that by the afternoon of june 30, they could be dealing with a fire that was completely different than it was behaving in the morning. [music playing] kyle dickman: two things that firefighters pay the most attention to, fuels and weather. paul hessburg: weather is one of the ficklest parts of a wildfire. mark finney: aside from drought or dry conditions, the wind is probably responsible for the greatest variation. another aspect of the wind that makes wildfires dangerous is the shifting direction. the wind can be coming out of the west, for example, and suddenly shift to coming out of the north. todd abel: so thunderstorm developments, it ll push wind multiple directions. [lightning crackling] brad elder: we ve all been standing outside watching a front hit and suddenly get hit by this wall of wind. kyle dickman: what happens with these thunderstorms, they start to rain. brad elder: and that water is now falling, and it s pulling air with it. so we have this rush of air coming down, slamming into the ground and moving out in all directions. wherever that cell is, it could push winds from the north to the south, the south to the north. brad elder: if you don t know that s going to happen or know how it s going to shift, that s a real dangerous situation. [music playing] kyle dickman: june 30, the yarnell hill fire is just ripping to the north. kyle dickman: and the hotshots were down on the southern edge, what s called the heel of the fire, which is essentially where it started. they were just supposed to start building line up around the fire to make sure that it didn t escape. and late in the afternoon thunderstorm hit probably around, i don t know, 4:15-ish. kyle dickman: all this cool air comes rushing down, and it races out across this desert. and it hits the fire. and suddenly, the fire pivots and turns direction. it had been running north. but it turned and ran south. brendan mcdonough: that s pretty uncommon to see a fire completely shift 180 degrees. kyle dickman: and it began running straight at brendan donut mcdonough, the lookout. brendan mcdonough: captain jesse reached out because he could see where i was from up top. and so he called over the radio and said, hey, donut, i think it s about time for you to get out of there, man. move fast. and i did that. got a ride down. and so now this fire has turned around. my brother is on the complete south end, and i am on the north end, opposite ends of this fire. so the granite mountain hotshots were in what s called the blacks. the best safety zone, where fire s already burnt. kyle dickman: all they were doing is watching the burn. they can just look down and see this ominous scene. there s these black smoke. it s dark. and it s just all the colors of hell sweeping down this valley toward this town. [music playing] it became very clear that the town of yarnell was imminently threatened by this fire. we started evacuating yarnell. man: we just pulled out. yarnell is blowing up. kyle dickman: the granite mountain hotshots, they weren t doing a whole lot. they couldn t do a whole lot. so the hotshots decided to leave the safety of the black and move back toward the town of yarnell, where presumably they could do something to help the people that were soon to be threatened by the fire. and they re essentially climbing down these rocky cliffs into that canyon. and when they do, they know they re going to lose sight of the fire. they can t see the fire. and suddenly, the fire turns the corner of this ridge, pivoting and sweeping in front of them, fanning out into this flaming front. at exactly that moment, they realized that they are out of options. todd abel: it was moving so quick that there was no way that a human could outrun that fire. kyle dickman: suddenly, they come over the radio. and what he s saying is, we need help, and we need help right now. they re in trouble. brendan mcdonough: and i remember them trying to call in water. and that s when it became very frantic. kyle dickman: at that moment, nobody really knew where granite mountain was. todd abel: the last conversation i had with them was granite mountain was in the black and that they were in a good spot. no one knew that they had moved to the south end like that. they are forced to do the only thing they can do in that instance, to deploy their fire shelters. fire shelters are just these small, thin blankets that reflect heat. that s all they are. they are tents that you pitch up and you climb into. if you re deploying your fire shelter, it s a last-case scenario. that fire crew s in trouble. they re in trouble. a lot of things going through my brain at the same time of my heart being in my stomach. brendan mcdonough: the helicopter s trying to find them. and it s the smoke is just so thick. bravo 33: operations bravo 33. [music playing] kyle dickman: you have 19 firefighters standing in front of a flaming front. every firefighter on that fire, their jaws dropped and i m sure their hearts broke because they now knew that their brothers, their colleagues were in very real danger. todd abel: we launched some helicopters to try to find them. i absolutely had all kinds of hope that the crew was going to be fine. and i m just waiting on the radio and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. and i hear there s 19 confirmed. there were 19 dead bodies in the canyon. i can feel it in my heart right now and in my stomach right now talking about it. it was devastating. absolutely devastating. i remember just sobbing. every negative emotion that could be felt, i just felt in that moment. i remember walking in, and they re just everybody was crying. and we were told that they were all gone. kyle dickman: and this was the worst fire tragedy that had happened in a generation. todd abel: they were fathers, sons, brothers, husbands, the whole nine yards. they were good people. they enjoyed wildland firefighting. they had the passion for it. the fact that i can tell my children that their father died a hero has made a huge difference. they can be proud of him for everything that he did. kyle dickman: the nation was captivated by it for months. and they ended up making a hollywood movie no matter what you hear we ve got several aircraft coming to you. no matter what s going on we can t go back up there. stay together tell me when you hear the aircraft, ok? and look out for each other because you re a family. no one could be prouder of his boys than i am of you guys. and the fires that we fought when when we were young are nothing like the fires of today. they re really, really dangerous. and they re very, very threatening. todd abel: longer duration, definitely larger fires. how do you manage something like that? paul hessburg: in the western united states, the fire season is 40 to 80 days longer. in california, the fire season is nearly year-round today. steve pyne: the climate is is morphing in ways that enhance fire. it s acting as a performance enhancer. smoke has been carrying the fire problem to areas that otherwise are immune to it. reporter: smoke from those fires traveling more than 500 miles. it s philadelphia, boston, new york city, all the way to the nation s capital. paul hessburg: the air quality index just ballooned in many of these metropolitan areas. more people are being challenged by smoke-related injury to human health. reporter: wildfire smoke contains particulate matter, or pm 2.5. among the tiniest and most dangerous pollutants, it s able to infiltrate the lungs and enter the bloodstream and has been linked to conditions like asthma and heart disease. the need to do something is urgent. we have a lot of tools in the toolbox. one of them is using prescribed burning. prescribed burning is intentional burning to invite the right kind of wildfire back to the forest. there s a tremendous amount of science and skill that go into this prescribed burning. 99.8% of them stay within the line. it produces a tenth of the smoke. so the numbers are really good. steve pyne: some of these areas, we can go in, we can thin. not log, thin out. it s a kind of woody weeding. but it s the fire that matters most. if you do the thinning but don t do the fire, you re not really solving the problem. burning where you ve got residents or small communities embedded in the landscape around, very difficult. but almost certainly, they are going to burn. and if we don t do it in some way, then they re going to burn probably in the worst possible way. kyle dickman: it s like, you can pick your poison, right? like, you re either going to have prescribed fires, or you re going to have more big wildfires. [music playing] steve pyne: well, all this requires a political and social mechanism for us to come together and argue over differences in values, what we want public lands to be, how we want to do it. and we re facing the point where we simply cannot pretend that we can control all these fires as we would wish. [music playing] kyle dickman: we can only do so much to insulate ourselves from those tragedies. like, the way that the system works and the environment is changing, like, these are just they are realities. desiree steed: i want jesse to be remembered for his strength of character. he had a lot of integrity. he was a great dad, a great husband. brendan mcdonough: everyone s journey after the tragedy has been different. there s a lot to learn from it. for me, it s been giving back and, you know, paying it forward and trying to help people understand their sacrifice. karen davis, the nurse who survived the entrapment in the mega fire in paradise, california, says she lost everything in the inferno. battling the trauma from the flames, she decided to move to las vegas to be closer to her daughter and rebuild her shattered life. once there, karen continued her career in health care. she also decided to become a member of the henderson, nevada, community emergency response team, aiming to help others in future emergencies. a testament to her inner strength and resiliency. for more information on what you can do in a wildfire and how to combat the growing climate crisis, please go to cnn.com/violentearth. i m liev schreiber. thanks for watching. good night.

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here sweating like a dog. joey: i feel his pain, he made a big promise, will get rid of taxes for service workers who make tips. a new fox poll showing trump is leading biden in the batter and today trump said if he wins nevada, we will win the whole thing. fox news senior correspondent alicia acuna is live near the las vegas strip, what you got? really good to see you, former president trump when he was in california he raced 33 and half million dollars from private fundraisers, then he came to las vegas and made news when he made this campaign promise. this is the first time i ve said this, for those hotel workers and people to get tips gear going to be very happy. because when i get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips. people making tips. it has been a point of attention for years and years and you do a great job of service, you take care of people. i think it s going to be something that is really deserved. more popular or unpopular i do some unpopular things they do what s right. the culinary union which represents 60000 hospitality workers issued a statement reading relief is definitely needed for tip earners, nevada workers are smart enough to know the difference and real solution while campaign promises from a convicted felon. during his western state swing, trump has also continued to hammer president biden s executive action to curb the number of seeking asylum. or could joe signed an executive order that is pro-invasion, pro-child trafficking, pro-women trafficking, pro-human trafficking and pro-drug dealers, it s a pro drug dealer bill this week, it s ineffective it s not what he believes signed. what he signed means nothing. in fact it makes it easier in my opinion it opens the border further. if joe biden truly wanted to signed an executive order to stop the invasion, right now all he needs to do is say i hereby immediately reinstate every single border policy of a gentleman named donald j trump. from here trump heads back to mar-a-lago. joey: thank you. cheryl, i want to go to this first, trump is leading nevada by five points, that is the smart math, seven-point swing out of the outcome from 2020 where he lost to 48%, there is a big swing and he goes out there today and says listen. i m going to take away the tax on people earning their living through tips, carry cash just so i can tip in cash hopes they don t have the claimant. is that something that will resonate beyond the unions. cheryl: absolutely especially in a place like nevada that s a major service sector area that is tourism, the casinos, the convention center. absolutely that message is going to resonate in a place like that state. if you look at the other cases of the poll that we did, as far as feeling bad about their finances four times as many in the state of nevada say they re falling behind financially, that is 49% falling behind financially, 13% say they re getting ahead whether housing, taxes, the fact that the inflation is hitting them in the pocketbooks, all of those messages at the end of the day resonate not just in that state but across the country it is obvious. joey: seems like they would designate regardless of your partisan lien, more money in your pocket, that seems like a good idea. trump had more things to say about his opponent, not just the border policy was a bad idea that biden just sighed, this is what he had to say about this coming up with the debate were going to have. remember when joe said it s great to be in idaho and he was in iowa, he always does that. if i ever did that that would be over they would say that the end of his political career, he is cognitively impaired. we had a second test, i aced both of them, not easy days. biden should have a cognitive test, number one. they say it s unconstitutional, that s a good excuse. he should have a cognitive test, before the debate in two weeks he should take a drug test because i m willing to take one. joey: what do you think about that charlie? charlie: this is a good reminder of how unpredictable trump is and how entertaining he is on the stump, you know that his decision to announce the thing about tips was not something on his focus group or a ten-point plan that his economic team came up with. he realized the value of it and jumped on it. the fact that the service unions had to put out a statement so quickly is evidence of how effective the plank could be. once again, as we ve seen with a lot of the other unions shows the division between the union s leadership themselves and their members. their members are going to love this, the members don t care what their unions. joey: we say that a lot with republican candidate is especially trump, were there blue-collar work conservatives one of the topics in las vegas was immigration and not every democrat believes or is willing to acknowledge trump s immigration policy was successful, this is what chris coons had to say today. former president trump tried his gimmicks like building a border wall and is now threatening to nationalize and to federalize the national guard and use it to deport tens of millions of people already here in the united states. the difference between trump s approaching biden s approach is one of cruelty versus effectiveness. joey: let s look at this pull, this has 62% of respondents favor trump on the border to where 38 oppose, if you like democrats are off-base on this. molly: president trump, as we were talking about doing things that voters are appealing to like tips and place in las vegas nevada that cares about tourism, woody s going after this particular issue is something a lot of voters are paying attention to, they deeply deeply care about and is across the broad spectrum, what are the challenges the nevada this is for the new york times, to a mr, his weakness with hispanic voters and pessimism over handling the economy and seeing that in that particular state, pretty challenging thing. there has uppity gop nominates since george w. bush, once again this is president trump stepping into an area that isn t traditionally an area where he could win when biden one over two percentage points is definitely a battleground inward making a stop. joey: one of the calculation will be the ticket, who is going to run with him. the beefsteak succeeding up, for people that are rumored to be on the shortlist in the new york times is taking aim at one of them. north dakota governor doug burgum the liberal newspaper put out two stories a day about program, the governor fire back on the attacks of his energy policies earlier on fox & friends weekend. what were doing in north dakota is innovation not regulation. innovation is the way were going to solve any problem and part of the reason why the donors are pouring out in silicon valley, they all understand for the new things that are coming that we need for us to maintain american dominance in our economy around the world like crypto and artificial intelligence. these are huge consumers of electricity in joe biden s energy policy where we do see the amount of baseload in our country, destabilizing the grid raising the prices for america americans. joey: seems intelligent on the topic and what americans want. north dakota has become one of the most important energy producers on the planet and the united states and all of that is because american intervention, what is great here you know that virgo is probably a serious contender because new york times is attacking him and he can wear that as a badge of honor. joey: they invoked his green energy policy but they invoked were he invoked in response to silicon valley starting to support their policies. is doug burgum the kind of guy that can get wall street in silicon valley alike behind the trump. cheryl: absolutely and some of the things with a.i., that goes to why donald trump raised about $13 million in san francisco last week, blue san francisco. he has silicon valley behind him. i will also say as far as his energy policy he s a winner when one is come to north dakota carbon credits, the oil industry in the gas industry has been talking about that, how do you offset your environmental footprint, that is something that can be bipartisan but also economically strong and has been in a state like north dakota. he is very well-liked in that state. joey: we saw the list of candidates for vp we have jd vance, tim scott, right here we have a montage or a video that shows a reaction to some of this. there s no question i think we have an amazing talented republican party and a great bench. what we need to make sure that we do, have people who are ready to take this to the mat. we are conversations with the trump team but i m not spoke about the vice presidential thing with the president directly and until i do is to be this is a lot of media speculation i would help donald trump get elected because it s important he becomes an ex-president. i think only one person knows who s on the shortlist and that would be president trump. joey: in the last minutes we heard four of the veep stakes candidates, through the montage, they re all very tightlipped, none of them will admit, jd vance says he hasn t talked to trump about it at all. they tried to go after tom cotton, have you filled out any documents, give me a hint, this is donald trump. we do not know what s going to happen we don t know if that ll expand, shrink, it ll be 70 that nobody is even thinking about. i would be hesitant to place a bet, that is for sure, that is what are the things going to vegas is raising money out there. joey: the one thing he s doing, all of the contenders are hot on the trail right now. i would and onto either because of trying to earn it and do him favors and even elise stefanik was strong this weekend, we have a big hour still ahead on the big weekend show including this. he got shot down in new guinea and they never found the body because there were a lot of camels for real and not 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any other questions. visited biden has to be back here in western europe midweek, it s unclear why he and the first lady flew back to delaware tonight. molly: great question, i wonder what s going on in delaware. remember when biden claimed his uncle was eaten by cannibals, he brought up his famous uncle as biden wrapped up his visit today. i don t want to make this personal but every time i show up at a military site where veterans are buried, it brings back memories of hearing my grandfather my mother talk about the loss of their son and brother in the south pacific and i think about my son beau after a year in iraq. the claim that he made a few months ago is now being fact check by the new york times. they called and bows he, a hell of an athlete until he was a kid and he became the army air corps before the army came along this single engine planes over war zones, got shu shot down inw guinea and they never found the body because there were a lot of cannibals for real and not part of new guinea. cannibals, joey, what a detail. joey: the best part was immediately new guinea came out with a statement saying this is racist and horrible thing to say about us. on top of that the pentagon came out and said there s no record of that. you want to laugh at it but if he s willing to go that far to make up a story about cannibals to connect himself to world war ii and take a step back, look at the soundbite right before that he says every time he goes to a military graveyard to honor those that were falling in line of duty, he things about his son who spent a year in iraq. the reason he brings atopy was to convince people that his son was killed in combat, he brings that up in his cross the line before his son tragically died from cancer, there is no proof that that was connected to anything and it really does bother me, it upsets me that he s willing to take the tragedies within his own family and pastor dies them so he can score some weird political points was certain demographics. molly: on the subject on his uncle who passed during the war, papa new guinea s leader as you mentioned came forward with this story was told back in april, this is not the first time that the president has talked about his uncle. biden does love to tell stories, sometimes he tries to connect with whatever crowd he is talking in front of so we cut them down to size, this from the new york times article, his suggestion that mr. finnigan was shot down and cannibalized in new guinea is not supported by military records or anthropologist, mr. finnigan would ve been an unlikely victim of cannibalism in new guinea, studies of cannibalism in the country have noted that victims tend to be from enemies from warring tribes and active revenge or deceased relatives as part of a morning ritual, rather creative tactic that is taking or telling the particular story, that is the new york times calling them out as people and by the way to be clear, the pentagon has said he was a passenger on aircraft that crashed into the ocean on the north course of new guinea in may 1944, the engines on aircraft failed, three men including mr. biden s uncle lost in that. i would go with the pentagon s version of events and not president biden s version of events. i don t understand why the white house press officer, somebody s advisors, he has been fact checked over and over, the fire at the delaware home he goes on to talk about they almost died and we almost lost our house it was terrific, it was a small kitchen fire. his been repeatedly debunked fire officials in the town said it is not what happened. somebody needs to stop him. all this does is make him look bad and i m a little nervous about what is going to say and do at the g7. we solve these gaffes during the d-day celebration. that is one issue but world leaders, the world stage, the business of our country at the g7 i am a little nervous. molly: that raises a great point, the mix up of the country names is also happened before but i want to bring you in here before we run out of time, the storytelling and the mixups. charlie: anytime you have to bring an anthropologist to a political story you are probably in deep trouble, the greatest honor that he could do for uncle posey would to get the story right until the correct story. i love it when the new york times decides to weigh in and do a fact check of joe biden and they say the story that biden makes up, these are a way for him to connect with voters and emphasize the middle class joe persona and charm the audience, what i would love is for the new york times to find a member of the audience who is charmed by these stories or to find anyone other than the media itself who thinks that joe biden is somehow a middle class joe kind of guy, that is a lie that the biden campaign has perpetrated in the media picks up. molly: the swanky digs with amenities in a café in the gym that the homeless will be getting in los angeles, will this all the homeless crisis? 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[ laughter ] it s funny because i m not boss material! . charlie: welcome back to the big weekend show . liberal l.a. has a new solution for the homeless crisis. luxury living, the city is about to open a new 19 story apartment building in the middle of skidrow complete with luxury amenities like a café, a gym and an art studio. deb all of our tells the new york times that were trying to make our little corner of the world look in feel little bett better. the homeless crisis is the only problem for california governor gavin newsom, business owners are calling him out for raising the minimum wage to $20 an hour, they took out a full-page ad to show the country the real cost of the minimum wage hike, the business owners claim nearly 10000 jobs have been cut since governor newsom signed the bill into law. including 1200 pizza hut delivery drivers who had to be laid off. cheryl, you are far smarter about business and i will ever be. when you talk about jacking up the minimum wage and giving free luxury housing to homeless people, who does not hurt the most? cheryl: that would hurt the academy and also the taxpayers. that s the thing about california, they lead the nation when it comes to one-way moves out of the state. the tax base is shrinking, newsom is sitting on a 45 million-dollar budget deficit. he now wants to cut money from the prison system, cut money from law enforcement and the courts. but let s build a tower skews and prime l.a. property, $600,000 is the unit cost for each of these, each of the tower, you cannot tell me that that makes fiscal sense because it does not. they are desperate, desperate, it s good to be more taxes, it could be worse for the taxpayer. charlie: if you re a young person trying to get in the housing market that would make it the climb steeper to get into the housing market. look at some of the things that they re going to talk about defending the police, they say were not really in favor of defunding the police, yes they are they want to cut $97 million to child court operation 80 million from the department of correction, 10 million from d.o.j. vision of law enforcement, is going to make quality-of-life in l.a. better? joey: the libertarian in me wants to say some are not too bad kept the federal spending in the federal pork but these are also part of the government that are constitutional protection of our rights as citizens we have a right to go to court and defend ourselves and our proper representation and have proper adjudication of things that we are concerned about. if you start cutting the courts, the ripple effect of how people s lives are rocked, look at what president trump is going to if his conviction is appealed he s an innocent man. what if there were the resources that hangs over for ten years instead of two, put yourself in that situation in a state like california where they have a ban on everything it a code against everything and you have to argue to live your life freely. charlie: last week gavin newsom was boasting california has more fortune 500 companies than any state in the country even if as it s impossible for the lower the income the worse it is for people in california. molly: not just in california but the big cities, chicago, boston, housing affordability issue. it is not just the people at the very bottom, the homeless that needs a place to live, it s well above that, you talked about young couples, citywide living close to the poverty line, they cannot afford a home. this is an issue for cities, they have been trying to work and address this. the crisis with the migrants coming in, this is affecting cities, city budget and this is among the creative things that cities and states are doing to house migrants but in boston and massachusetts, the baystate correctional center, an old present is expected to be open later this month to migrants to house hundreds of people. the creativity is going in all directions and many of the states are suffering. charlie: that s important point, as young voters go to the polls this year, they should remember when you bring in 6 million illegals and you put them in free housing all over the country, do you know what that s going to do you do your housing prices? cheryl: the number one issue is for gen z he is housing affordability or lack thereof, nine out of ten of gen z the voters say that it. molly: and what are the reasons are clean cities. charlie: coming about the big weekend show , dramatic new video shows the idf s heroic rescue, four hostages from hamas in the media how did outrageous reaction to the rescue. that is next. . molly: welcome back to the big weekend show the idea of releasing dramatic new video of the rescue of four israeli hostages for being held by hamas since october 7. one of the hostages, noah argo moni is revealing the horrors of being held captive by hamas, she said she thought she was going to die four times in hamas dressed her as a palestinian woman to move her from house to house, this is an image of the room where she was held in a terrorist home, fox news correspondent trey yingst had an update on the deering rescue from tel aviv tonight. good evening a significant development out of israel tonight as were cabinet members benny and resigned from the government. is a major blow to benjamin netanyahu who can still say empower but will be more reliant on far right ministers in his coalition. the development comes as we have good news to report, for former israeli hostages are now home, they were rescued yesterday morning in a complex multipart operation in central gaza, reports indicate special forces storm two buildings in the new refugee camp, there they were engaged in firefights with thomas cadman. ultimately completed the mission. this was a high risk mission based on precise intelligence conducted in daylight. in two separate buildings, deep inside of gaza. while under fire inside the buildings, under fire on the way out from gaza, armed forces rescued our hostages. one officer was killed in the fight against hamas during the rescue message that brought the hostages home. in the tel aviv hostages reunited with loved ones, even received a visit from the country s prime minister benjamin netanyahu, instead of gaza palestinians comb through the aftermath of the raid, the hamas run palestinian helped ministry said more than 200 people were killed, the majority civilians. with the operation took place, one of the interesting part of the story, american involvement, the new york times reports a team of american hostage recovery officials stationed in israel assisted the israeli military effort to rescue the four captives by providing intelligence and other logistical support. the story illustrates how complex the work can be for the palestinian people death and destruction for the israelis. cheryl: thank you very much, the mainstream media is drawing scrutiny over the way it s reacting to the heroic rescue of the four hamas hostages in gaza. cnn saying the hostages were released when in fact they were rescued, the washington post choosing to highlight the palestinians killed during the operation, saying the mission left scores of palestinians de dead. cheryl: if you want to give cnn the benefit of the doubt, find maybe a mistake, a young producer but it looked like it was pretty deliberate to me. i watched it live. charlie: exactly, you would think if they made a mistake like that it would be something you would correct right away and say i use the wrong word but that was not forthcoming, it s also a much larger pattern of the press here and around the world telling the story from the perspective of hamas which is kind of insane. i think it is interesting news that trey reported on on the u.s. hostage officials participating. wait until the lunatic wing of joe biden s party find that there was u.s. officials advised on this. also in order to get an idea of just how jaundiced much of the reporting on all of this is, noa argamani who was rescued was stained at the home of a gaza journalist. and you want to talk about three way house of mirrors, this is what we dealing with their, unfortunately too many american media file for. cheryl: the other thing, it is hamas we have a hard time believing what they tell us to civilian casualties, this is them telling us how many people died, yes people in gaza are dying, absolutely. but the numbers is something else but the washington post picks right up on that. joey: is an easy way to stop people dying, give up the hostages. no one on the left says that because it s easier to point to israel because of the military power over hamas but that does not make sense, one single say about the separation the most famous and executed and high-stakes and high-stakes that we ve ever done is bin laden raid. without a planet in technology that the united states has, years of intelligence data and we lost a helicopter, it turned organized chaos is what combat is. everything that you train for full the minute you get off the bird, get off the boat or get out of the vehicle. that s the way combat happens. i m very impressed by this. but they would not of had the opportunity had they not gotten into rafah to begin with in our president said. cheryl: israel lost every respected commander, he died during the raid. i want to get your take on the politics of all of this. the war has been politicized repeatedly in this country, here is what kamala harris said about the rescue. molly: before i began, i want to say a few words about the boarding that i know weighs heavily on all of our hearts on october 7 hamas committed a brutal massacre of 1200 innocent people and objected to a 50 hostages. thankfully four of the hostages were reunited tonight and we mourn all of them innocent lives that are been lost in gaza and those tragically killed today. both sides of the issue. molly: also jake sullivan said we know innocent people were tragically killed in this operation he told cnn state of the union on sunday that is heartbreaking and tragic. the gaza health ministry that cannot be trusted over 200 palestinians were killed. the hostages were held amongst the civilian population which is one of the reasons if you are going to go in there to rescue your hostages, it makes it more challenging to get these people out. this bracket listened they were able to do that. as you mentioned the numbers given out, this is a hero that lost his life as part is this great mission to bring their people home. if the people were not being held there, the deering daytime grades to rescue them would not be necessary. the death toll that the gazan health ministry creates anytime anything s going on that would not be reported either. the hostages were home you have to going to get them. it was heartening to hear that the army could officials offering advice because there are american hostages still being held. cheryl: seven of the hostages have been rescued, seven but to your point a cease-fire possible intellect all of them go. were you to take a quick break, a fragrant trowel of a sports commentator close at caitlin clark s olympics knob. tomorrow, by the way jd vance is going to join fox & friends 8:20 a.m. to talk about trump s big weekend, the fundraising hall in the vp that entered betty, dvr the show if you cannot catch it live. dad is a legend. and his legendary moves might be passed down to you. dancing is just one of the many inherited traits you can discover with ancestry dna. get it for dad, and together you can see which traits were inherited, the places where they started, and the people he shares them with. best of all, it s on sale for father s day. but get movin , this sale is only for a limited time. sleepy? headaches? dry skin? you re probably dehydrated. try liquid labs rapid hydration. it s packed with all five essential electrolytes. taste amazing and way less sugar than sports drinks? rehydrate and feel 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and i know i could ve gone either way of me being on the team are not be on the team. i m excited for them. no disappointment, it gives you something to work for, it s a dream, hopefully one day i can be there and a little bit more motivation. fans and sports analysts it criticized to not have clark on the olympic team, considering the wa mva number one draft pick s all-time leading scorer in ncaa division i history and the fastest wba player to reach to a point in 40 assist in the lease history, millions of new fans have tuned into clark s games to watch her compete. you could argue that caitlin clark is the most talked about, discuss, most popular to putting in the seat single most basketball and tabasco player in the world, and you leave off the olympics team, it s not only a showcase for her but the sport in the other wba players who were on the team. how dumb, how brain-dead, how idiotic do the people running this thing have to be. the athletic is reported that these are the 12 players who made the olympic team, nine of the athletes have competed in the olympics before, including brianna stewart and two-time wba mvp. the list indicates veteran players were preferred, the roster was chosen by the women s basque about committee. at some sports analyst note the 22-year-old will likely have more opportunity in the future. charlie: controversial sports commentator tomorrow on chetumal hill posting on x, caitlin clark not being on this year of the big team is a good thing for her. in the span of weeks, she went from playing college ball to becoming a professional to having the grind of a schedule, all multi week break is probably not the worst thing in the world she will eventually make the olympics team. i ve got to say i m not your world s greatest expert on the wba and we have to get to her in a minute but what is the point of having an olympics team if it s not have the best players so you win. molly: you re not the only critic on that level, i certainly am not a sports commentator at all but in usa today kristi brennan saying leaving th caitlin clark off the team is a missed opportunity and that s the idea of the intention that she could ve brought not only the sport but the limbic team and everyone else on the other 15. she s been real classy about this not being her time saying shelby bit back and motivated, she s been class act about the whole thing. charlie: i can honestly tell you i cannot name is single mva wt name but she was classy about it. cheryl: the fever most people can name that. the other thing about caitlin clark, at this point, the commissioner of the wnba needs to sit down until these coaches in these players and off is enough with going after caitlin clark, she s been criticized by the media and she s been criticized by other players, she is the best thing to happen to women s basketball, i would argue, ever and this is a big missed opportunity. it is a shame she did not make the olympics team but i understand, i m an athlete as well but resting her body if she could take a month off now and there will be no wnba games and she can actually heal up, she didn t go from college ball to pro ball, that cannot be easy physically for her. charlie: you re an expert. joey: there are some stats, 13th in scoring in the league she leads in turnovers, her team is 3 - 9 she s won three games so far, she came in a superstar in waiting but she has not met the superstar mantra yet. i don t mind that she s left out but understand this is one aspect of a bigger conversation, the real caitlin clark conversation is how she s been received by the wnba and treated by opponent players. in that context, that does look bad. charlie: it s remarkable people are actually watching. stick around the big four is next. welcome back to the big weekend sherbet everyone will be talking about this week. i ll go first biden homeland security secretary is now admitting there is no impact yet on biden s board or executive order. what has the impact been? how many migrants have been turned away between those ports of entry? martha where very early stage implementation our intent is to really change the risk calculus of individuals before they leave for the border a big story many, many spin off stories of the border this and next week that we kept up a part of that weight to find out this particular executive order has an impact or not. oh well, you break it and you ll buy youbuy at ohio law me legislation that could enforce rioters to pay for property damages they cause while breaking the law. this is in response to all the damage we have seen on college campuses, to personal property to retail stores, pick your right with his rights in 2020, writes this year if you re going to go out that you re going to cause havoc in a damaging government buildings. you know what kids, get out your checkbook you are going to be held accountable financially. i love the senate bill 267 ohio more cities will follow. wises even debatable question work it is common sense. we have got to make at the law, i love it. is on spine lieutenant colonel retired yesterday after more than 20 years as a pilot in the nicest air force. he flew combat missions in afghanistan, iraq and syria with over 4000 hours of flight in multiple aircraft including refueling operations with the big casie 135 are they call it the strata tanker. lacey spent the majority of his time as an instructor pilot molding some of the most skilled pilots in the united states air force and beyond. lacey is a good friend of mine historian is one of perseverance, overcoming struggles early on his life he is living proof a life of the service can help us become the best version of ourselves he will now move on to helping veterans heal and transition zac brown campus of the ground there in georgia you can read it lacey story of my book on broken bonds a battle lacey, and good luck brother. thank you for the decades of leading our best and sacrificing for our freedom. but that is awesome but this is a letdown from that. check out this footage mountain pass outside of teton pass outside of jackson, wyoming. the road has completely collapsed what is interesting about this is this is the road that connects jackson hole, the playground of billionaires with eastern idaho the only place you can afford to live out there. looks like this summer bunch of them billionaires are going to have to learn how to do their own yardwork. will this survive? hard to say it. 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Be able to do that. go out. with dog manure. the latest bizarre food trended making the rounds of social media kcal bars smothering catch up yes and the skills here you go. and this is for you. no no no. this is a break me off moment, these are made it to be shared. that s not possible, that is not possible. the vertex, the vertex, charlie. no no no. i think the thing to do is you look awfully cancer first and then you eat the chocolate. this is an improvement on catch up. and the dozen for us and we will see you tomorrow the big we can show and life, liberty & levin starts right now. mark: hello america i am mark levin and this is life, liberty & levin saturday powerful show and superstar the house of representatives, and professor stephen calabrese, from northwestern university law school in one of the lawyers be on the challenge of jack smith the special counsel unconstitutional appointment will be really fantastic at and before you do that, what you something little bit differently tonight. at which go biden and orbiting of the day giving his speech and i was appalled obviously he said some very important things about his politicization on the 80th anniversary take a shot at donald trump trump actually lying about with donald trump said, in doing so very nasty way, and the negative thinking to myself, there is a man, standing at nobody, the day, company standing it morgan state college in front of black male students are at howard, what is giving speeches generally stretching the united states and talking about how our history has been horrific and we do not have equality of opportunity. an effective never this been giving inspiring patriotic pro- american speech in his life. the speech that he gave it d-day were d-day accord become of them will never go down in history as it rate speech and only back and listened to president trump s speech of the 75th anniversary and it was hearing a beautiful. it was patriotic it as i went back in the listen the reagan speeches i think a magnificent speech in a beautiful speech, biden is not up to being president of the night 60s even worse letting the leader and he does represent the values and the belief system of the american people and he represent take french radical group. in the negative thinking about bernie sanders than others and aoc and omar in that whole ilk and what they say about the american people in our country, and to think about the american immediate day in and day out with crt di, teresa the world of the jake tapper s of the world and so forth as it is so horrendous, the disconnect, between the american needed most of it, the disconnect between the disconnect between the democratic party, the president of the leadership, and we the people of america, kenobi bigger. i wanted you a little story and we were attacked at pearl harbor, three-minute that i know up with quickly to try to join the war effort coming to protect our country when at that my mother s father, grandfather as it was maurice rubin and he hated his name so he collects of he was 34 years old right of the limited. any joined the marines. any phonic wall develop long brutal battle and went on from july 21st, till august 10th of 1944, was 2000 of her mental killed, there were 6000 wounded it, but that was nothing end of it. and he was in the fifth division of the marines. and this is his platoon. you can see the mid- in this platoon i think it was 13 if i recall. you can see him there and i want you to look at the picture the vast majority of those men died at iwo jima than to begin moment i want you to look at them if you do they sing fight entered like they are privilege addict what they are not privileged grandfather was born report. his parents came over from russia. with nothing. everything that he had a word for there was no welfare state. but he loved his country. to the court and the battle at iwo jima, 6800 americans died of that island it in 19000 over 19000 casualties in the battle went on from february 19th to march 265 six weeks and look at the casualties, there were more medal of honor recipients as a result of that engagement of 27 in any battle in american history from the fifth marine division of the division, other marine divisions, animals 2500 died and there were 6000 wounded. they sustain the heaviest lo losses. my grandfather was a patriot. when he came back, from that war, his hands shook. he lost his voice. any spoke like this the rest of his life read remember when i first met my grandfather committees about 6-foot 3 inches tall big man and even an amateur boxer was a tough guy and remember he walked in the house the four big sticks along brown leather coat and a chihuahua in his pocket. [laughter] that he gave to the family a chihuahua puppy is a gift card that was my first memory of him. and of no white supremacist pretty any of the patriotic american. in the latter years of his life, he lived in quietly. diabetes, it is his foot removed and so forth and so on her stories are not unique and i want to tell you about another minute or family by the way is brother, his brother-in-law, sister s husband, named kevin at synthetic he joined the marines the same date, and he fought on the solomon violence, and the canal, and he was a big tough man with big hands and this what i remember. and to tremendous patriots, tremendous patriots and there was my father, and am telling you this for a reason because american families all over this country have gone through the ups and american citizens, houthis and respected by their government and who deserve respect for the president. from there to have it for families it tapped over and over again and lies told about the projection of racism on top of them for the racism the biden family practice in the racism joe biden practice in the senate, and it had nothing to do with my father my grandfather my great uncle are my family, nothing. this on biden and on july 4th 1937, my father jack, then 12 years old, and a neighborhood but he walked it several miles from their homes, the parade route with the city philadelphia was already donations founding father route stretch from center city philadelphia, upper from independence hall come to the philadelphia art museum or sylvester stallone would make famous in the rocky movies, early 40 years later. in a apply, father s attention, a civil war veteran and he said on the back of a four-door convertible, dressed in his all union uniform, including his campaign hat and behind him marched a small group of spanish american war veterans, but of all of the soldiers the veterans are merging vance my father sought that they come the union soldier so that camille jack had been somewhat about the civil war in school, saying the soldier in the flesh intrigued him and the soldier would become seared in my father s mind of the most costly war in american history, became real to and thus become a father s lifelong journey of self-education and patriotic preaching, about this great nation s history and founding principles and at a young age jack in an effort drawing from a designing and when he was 13 years old, he designed an automobile window and intervention for the contest that they were conducting in conjunction with the release of the movie young tom is income starring mickey rooney remember the little triangle window, well and among others, that was his idea and he was one of only five winners citywide, and earned a trip to the 1939, new york world s fair in this had incredible impression on him and a 15, my father committed an idea with drawings for animating the story a christmas carol to the in california, the studio loved and asked that he provide more examples of his work including, numerous cartoon drawings which he did in the next contacted his parents announced that it would allow percentage points disney studios. well, they said they would provide them with dormitory state space in either facility what is working for them but his parents concern about his age, turned down the offer my father grew up during the great depression his family was very very poor and his father harry to part-time jobs when he can find them, and his mother sarah worked in his cigar factory in about a mile down from where there were living jack was the oldest of four children. any boy and when he turned 16 years old, half of the school day you did, you would walk to the cigar factory, down the street where he worked until midnight and running the going rate of $17 a week on week as my father took freelance jobs furniture frame manufactured, sketching frames going to oppose herself as a chair said he was paid, $2 for a set of drawings and manufacturers salesman use the finished drawings with the customers he was later the japanese attacked pearl harbor and jack spend the summer working at the craps shipyard from the philadelphia shipyard, with the oldest destroyers and summaries but he wanted to do more for the war effort like somebody wonderful mentor that young time, my father decided to enlist in the armed forces and he wanted to be a cadet in the army air corps, which today we know the air force. jack was only 17, he was too young and so he security copy of his birth certificate from city hall, rubbed out the number five in 1925, his birth year, any written for and just like that he reached the legal age requirement of 18. now if you pass a rigorous their core exam, he was in and cadets took the exam including students from the university of pennsylvania but only for paths, including my father not long thereafter, is my father was boarding a train to biloxi mississippi, for basic training, the soldier stopped him and told him the lt. wanted to see him of the cynically taken close of the birth certificate and asked jack how old he was objectively the truth. the ten at ten was not very happy with my father when he turned 18, he joined up in a week after, he turned 18 and he did well in their service, jack would use brief respites committed to rock tunes which were published in a variety of newspapers later joined the regular army, and in the infantry and it always bothered him, they never sent him overseas rate and when he was on his deathbed, he called me over five and half years ago, it was just he and i in the hospital room. his body was a wreck with cancer. and he said you know mark, i know what god did not send me to europe in a supply get. and he sits organ have you and your mother and i could have you. my peers were great people. and as he was dying, he was trying to write another book. the declaration of independence and he wrote several books gettysburg address, second inaugural address, and installing to his children and influenced the of a this is what he drew, shortly before he passed away. i shorted before he passed away. in the current president of the united states secretary of state, national security advisor, and the press secretary for the presbytery and for the secretary of state and they keep saying when it comes to his part from there is no victory right when they mean by victory, i m a grandfather knew what victory meant. my great uncle knew what victory that my father knew it victory met it we know what victory means. when i listen to donald trump speech coming in and referencing of the concentration camps only listen to ronald reagan speech, any reference to the six jews had been slaughtered, i listen to joe biden speech and he never mentioned this ralph, no months. talk about trump, the naming him. any talk about ukraine, and i agree with him on ukraine. he is the one that s held back ukraine despite all the money spent, they have not but in the army mets, that they need to actually defeat some of these russian battalions. and is withheld the okay for them to attack beyond a certain level of the europeans have been begging him. and he talks about democracy. but is in front of other groups and he talks about his hate for america. and you know who else know about victory, dwight eisenhower and harry truman, the new something about victory after close to i ve years of fighting the in europe in general and eternal life on june 6, 1944, d-day of the set apart from the tightest turn, the freemen of the world are merging together to victory and i have full confidence in your courage, devotion, to duty skill and that will accept nothing less than victory also year after d-day president harry truman announced ve day of may 8th 1945 in which he said in part, this victory, we join in offering our thanks to the providence in which because guided and sustained us of the dark days of adversity rejoice and sobered is subdued by the supreme consciousness of the terrible price that we have paid through the world of hitler, and his evil band and if i can give away simple watch for the coming months, the board is working, work, and more working we must work coveted finish the work in our victory is only half over but much remains to be done in the victory one in the west and is now being born in the east for the triumph of spirit in arms head of which we have wanted for his promise some of the peoples everywhere, who joined us and 11 freedom and it is fitting that we as a nation give thanks to almighty god and it was us and given us the victory, and i call upon the people of the united states, whatever their faith, to united offering joyful thanks to god for the victory. we have wanted to pray that he will support us, to the end of our present struggling and guide us into the way of peace and i also call upon my countrymen, to dedicate this day of prayer come to the memory of those given their lives to make possible our victory. and he said also my personal appreciation of the suburban leadership, showing you and your commanders and directing the valiant leeches of her own country. and rallies and do this historic victory. every president has known what mean perhaps other than biden and obama in the victory, and israel right now is because i did is funding the enemy is preventing israel from winning. what is victory fiasco the reason ukrainians are now on their heels is not because of lack of money and arms coming it is because biden has held them back. any talking about russia any use that d-day speech. to lie about your political about it in front of the world, where all of those brave men are buried. that s phone place, on that solemn day, is disgusting. sue and welcome back america, we have one of the superstars i think it republican party the house of representatives, and at east in it at least if republican conference chair, she s on the house armed services committee, and nobody has question hostile witnesses like she does and i can tell you that, and is a pleasure to have you and i want to start with you, on this immigration issue joe biden was of the border, over 90 executive orders, only has to do is reverse them and we don t need a law in congress to me congresswoman the fellows existing immigration law, when we passed a law this is follow the law was joe biden done here. he has created the most catastrophic of border crisis innovations history and the american people know what is wavy look of the polling parking, is trump s pulling over 30 points ahead when he comes to handling up of border security and illegal immigration and house republicans passed the secure the border act, your ago, joe biden refused to support that bill in effect threatened to veto the bill and chuck schumer killed that builds those house republicans who have led legislatively to secure the border and it was joe biden who months ago, said that he did not have the executive authority to fix this border crisis even though the market people know that it was his executive actions that created this border crisis as of this latest desperate executive orders that joe biden has put out, political desperation and is only further fuels the illegals able to cross both are southern in our northern boulder reporters phoenix unbelievable is in the the comes out of the sky smell in the media to run with it and likely going to say to joe biden is his bipartisan bill. i partisan bill, congress woman to think the three republican supported it is negotiated in secret. on the mitch mcconnell, voted against his own bill and what with the joe biden partisan bill with duncan illegal immigration. further fueled of the fire and had open up the floodgates for more illegal immigrants two-point in this country and it would not have ended catch and release them he would not reinstated remain in mexico policy, we help what is secure border looks like helsley president trump s effective border security policies the most secure border in my lifetime and that s why house republicans opposed this pro- amnesty negotiation behind closed doors of the joe biden politically wanted to bail him out to cover up for this border crisis that he has created and of famer coming up onto the border for the southern and northern border center represent the temporal northern border, we ve seen illegal crossings, skyrocketed or joe biden is failed leadership including those on the terror partially synthesis of national security prices and economic crisis, and is a constitutional crisis because if you do not have orders from you lose your sovereignty as a nation as of this is an issue house republicans avoided were not and would reelect president trump continue to grow the house republican majority the senate and we will make sure that in addition of trumps executive orders from the we get secure the border step signed into law. mark: you know, some of the difficulty accusing the menino law i keep saying, the system is broken. first of all, what kind of law when they support, another would enshrine as you point out, open borders illegal immigration, slavery and could sold into slavery in the door-to-door darn thing about it in your acer to think about number two, to make it count on the number of women were sold into slavery encounter the number of children now were sold to pornographers and we keep him, have any of this and i noticed that very interest of keeping count of goes on in the middle east the israelis and palestinians. do we keep count of the amount of may have in the anarchy and humanity going on in the southern border as a result of this president to make it gets worse even that which you think about it, divided department of homeland security, does not know and is awestruck of nearly 100,000 minors who are in slavery being human trafficked and humanitarian travesty and it is all joe biden s watch. he has created this border crisis lock stock and barrel. the american people point of pulled him accountable you are exactly right of the president trump executive order for you the most secure border in the northern and southern border in our nations history this life the bill that the house republicans vessel strong support despite a very slow majority, we passes secure the border act to enshrine those trump executive orders in the democrats cannot have it both ways. as a first joe biden have the executive authority then they put out a desperate executive order and it is offensive to the market people in the voters because they know the joe biden s executive actions underwent open of the border and is allowed catch and release, and has created this crisis transferring of illegals to places all across the country so it is not just the border states and communities that are infected, it is every state is a border state in every community as a border community and is prices because of joe biden and president trump is going to secure the border come with the help of house republicans and senate republicans to provide safety flown at half a million foreigners in the country. and affirmatively he is has gotten them confronted into the country will move illusion pendant management will recent nothing has changed and that is the truth, nothing changeable we come back, what is it with joe biden in his hate pretty israelis in the state of israel. the few people to never speak to the net there and what is it about him and his embrace of iran and funding the enemy and we will be right back. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust. mark: welcome to fox news likein israel celebrating up to the countries military skewed hostages from central gaza and the musk enough them from music festival, october 7th them up finally back home in israel, said to be in good health and a rescue mission though, coming at a heavy cost of the palestinian side and heavy explosions and fighting could be hurt as the idea carried out that during daytime operation pretty hamas run health ministry said the more than 200 palestinians were killed fox news cannot independently confirm that number and it is the third time israel s military has successfully rescued hostages in the months long war. at least 1120 hostages remain in gaza. meantime crime minister benjamin netanyahu urging is really work out a member, not too quizzical illusion come he was expected to resign today over benjamin netanyahu handling of the war i m john scott is now back to life, liberty & levin. c1 welcome back america, were here with the least release still phonic, and if i were somebody who wanted to undermine israel, prevent them from winning a war and surely cannot survive the two state solution know the rest that would got joe biden s demand but what is this problem. will that is anti-semitism and that is a growing strain today s different party, that is not become a stream and is anti- israel every opportunity, joe biden has equivocated for la and turned his back on his route for adams honor to be invited by the speaker these really because the speaker robotic about to deliver remarks about the importance of the united states standing with israel and this the same week of the joe biden attempted and is still withholding military eight that congress passed in support of her most precious la the middle east, you have an administration that s obama, 2.0 prioritizing iran and hundred biting israel created chaos national security, threats or the world because of joe biden s weakness on the world stage. mark: quickly, to your knowledge, you said in the armed services committee what is this administration pivoting run from getting a nuclear weapon and then we read the papers this is ministration is leaning on france and the uk. not to review give ron, for his nuclear program and when you make of that. what to make of it is a continuation of the obama administration including some of the same individuals who are at the table in terms of these discussions others working through european countries summative pave the way for iranian nuclear weapons capability remember back of this is the same administration in the same state department, that put out an official statement, the loss of the iranian president you what the iranian people who had been abused by the iranian president said the regime and they did not mourn the loss of the president yet this is the same administration who is turning their back on israel. his obama 2.0 with failure and birth that to the historic achievements the middle east to president trump with received records or the recognizing jerusalem as the eternal capitol moving u.s. embassy there and we had peace in the middle east under president trump voters know they going to the polls is november c1 appointment quickly to another subject, this chamber that the placement headed. mark: and i believe you filed an ethics complaint against dissecting cho. yes multiple ethics complaints and this is shredding our democracy and the mainstream media depress accused of the right but it is really the depressed attacking our democracy and retake the judge into the near pay for this was like the case taken up by alvin bragg a corrupt prosecutor releasing by criminals on extremes is what we have five crisis in new york judge who donated to joe biden and his family members are profiting to the tens of tens of millions of dollars and raising money for the rest like adam schiff and joe biden, because of this trial and so this is a political witchhunt, the jury shopped as well asking the members with a folded donald trump tells me that did the best that the fold invited the american people know that this was rigged from the start and is in the front to us president trump is correct the real verdict will be rendered is november on election day president trump wins overwhelmingly and i also think any of the fact that president trump is within six points have a traditionally blue state means that momentum is moving in our direction because people see this for what it is that they can go up to president trump on political opponents they can go after any american c1 just me speaking about i m pleased is what i m reading a newspaper some of that you are potentially under consideration is running mate to donald trump and i just think you are great and think you very much, keep up the fine god flesh you my friend. thank you. mark: we will be right back. to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. we re here with chris counahan of our local leaffilter. so chris, tell us how leaffilter is different from every other gutter protection on the market. with leaffilters, patented filter technology, there are no gaps, no openings, no place for debris to get in at all. and we install leaffilter on your existing gutters. it s a permanent solution. you ll never have to climb a ladder to clean out your gutters again. that s amazing, chris. tell me about the process. simple and easy. just give us a call, set up an appointment. we ll come out and give you a free gutter inspection. if they re sagging, we ll repair them. if they re broken, we ll replace them. if they re in good shape, our local team will install leaffilter in as little as a few hours. wow. and i understand you guys have a 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it that you re telling the judge. steve: thank you so what we are telling the judges jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed. the justice department claims that he is what is called an inferior officer under the constitution. in the appointment because of article two, set the congress may by law thus the home point met of such inferior officers as they think proper, and the president alone in the course of law or in the heads of departments and we have reviewed the organic statutes of the justice department and of agriculture education, hhs, and transportation. it s quite clear from the statutes that congress has given the secretary of agriculture, education and hhs, and transportation, the power to avoid inferior officers in congress has not by statute given the power to the attorney general worried and so jack smith is acting illegally, and everything that he is doing is no and void and has been all avoid since he was appointed, two years ago. and we think that judge elaine canada florida great hero anand a champion of the rolloff, one of the best federal district court judges in this country, should dismiss the indictment jack smith has brought against donald trump because jack smith was on constitutionally appointed. we know steve come of all of the people of the attorney general chosen, constitutionally, the goodby individuals already gone through the confirmation process of the united states senate has compelled the appointments clause of the constitution is there for a reason. it would pick jack smith and somebody was a lawyer, who has not been approved by the senate invited the framers of the constitution when a role for congress specifically this tendency, and the appointment of these top powerful positions in the executive branch. steve: will market originally congress thought of giving the appointment and power to congress alone and only later undecided issuer between the president and the senate but they felt that it was crucial that there be a check on presidential appointment powers of the presidents notify people who bad moral character or tainted by nepotism or things of that point. in effect, under the constitution, the default method of appointment, is presidential nomination and senatorial confirmation. jack smith is not going through that the provision for inferior officers, was added originally simply for clerks and people perform on policymaking jobs and of the course of her hundred 34 years of history, the number of principal officers who are nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate, has shrunk a number of inferior officers have grown vastly and actually the prosecutors, former attorney general of objects in a famous attorneys, emphasized why this is incredibly important with his accusers attorney general robert jackson went on to become supreme court justice robert jackson, nürnberg prosecutor, robert jackson, said because of the immense power to strike is citizens, not with me her usual strength, but with all the force of government and the federal sphere, from the beginning, the safeguard presidential appointment confirmation of the senate has been imposed your this required to win an expression of confidence in your character about the legislative and executive branches of the government before assuming the awesome responsibility that federal prosecutor suet know when we return professor, my question to you is this, is not smith, the most powerful prosecutor right now on the face of the united states, with massive resources and massive personnel, massive authority involving the future election of this country and with these incredible constitutional issues that he is raising and if anybody should this individual have been facing a nomination confirmation process, so somebody other than the attorney general of the united states at some of ability to oversee wittiest doing it we will be right back. 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( ) at evernorth, we combine medical and pharmacy data with behavioral health data to identify members in need of care. predicting and treating behavioral health issues quickly. while lowering costs for plan sponsors and members. that s wonder made possible. evernorth health services mark: welcome back americaprofe3 u.s. attorneys, and is jack smith not more powerful, then any of the 93 u.s. attorneys who went to the confirmation process under the constitution. steve: he is more powerful than any of the three u.s. attorneys with the confirmation process under the constitution. and if the attorney general were right, if he could appoint special counsel jack smith, he could appoint a special counsel in cook county illinois, to investigate corruption there in the senators from illinois would have no check on that. it appointed special counsel in baton rouge, louisiana, to investigate corruption and they would have no check on that there s a reason why the senate insisted on the check of senate confirmation of prosecutors and jack smith, has not been confirmed by the senate. mark: one after another subject we subject we do have a time that is the issue of a common-law or another method, for president trump and his attorneys to make a pathway to the supreme court steps and i will make it clear to them naysayers out there, we can t guarantee the supreme court will to get up and you can t guarantee the supreme court think of anything but even if you have a 10 percent chance and i think that there s bigger chance, the methodologies to do it that are extraordinary under extraordinary circumstances human idea yourself. steve: i have a couple of ideas versatile trumps new york state convictions are completely unconstitutional and in violation of the first amendment protection of freedom of speech. the question is how to get that first amendment claim from a new york trial corporative the supreme court and a couple of ideas i want president trump is equal is: prohibition which is that old common law writ, whereby the court of kings mansion in england, took cases away from the jurisdiction of ecclesiastical courts and the court of equity when they were exercising it improperly and unlawfully. any of the trial court manhattan is unlawfully prosecuting trump for first amendment protected activities of this prohibition is one mechanism, and another mechanism is with the law of the state courts and federal courts, to certify to one another, the federal questions or state questions that need to be answered. the state courts could certainly certified to the supreme court, the first amendment questions in this case. in the prosecutors could also divide the appeal intuitive feel the federal issues and ability state issues an appeal the federal issues more quickly smacking the other methods because i don t believe the prosecutors will do anything that would get it quickly to the supreme court however, there is also original jurisdiction of some of the republican attorney general of the state of new york. let me number of things and interference with their voters and interference with national election interference with federal campaign law that is a direct up to the supreme court but you mentioned the prohibition and there are several what we call common-law ritz prohibition, mandamus, corpus and the point is, the point is, that there are avenues this is not a 70-yard pass, and if that court wasn t picking up somebody else to position and they took bush versus gore they hold the voting x-uppercase-letter taking place there. they permitted the state supreme court and going any further and they said that this is a presidential election we need to address this is a was like the court has not done something like this week before and i would argue this is much worse if they don t address it now, it will get much worse in the future, in 2020 agencies will be all three willing to do whatever they want is stephen calabrese, how i think you and you are a great patriot your brilliant lawyer for a professor and a dear friend and take care of yourself. steve: thank you market is going to be in show. mark: and we will be right back. - it s apparent. not me. - yeah. nice going lou! 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