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Alex Witt hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Two items, the Collusion Case and the obstruction case. What would the president consider sitting down two with the approval of his attorneys . How much has this conversation evolved . Well, i think we have to take everything Rudy Giuliani says with a grain of salgt. And when were only hearing about these conversations from him, it is very unclear to me how accurate he is in relaying those conversations. But if it is true that giuliani is considering a response to mueller and that they are continuing to ne...

Make sure that there was at least some daylight between the two of them and i think he saw that balderson has been openly supportive of the president, although he's more recently started to part with him a little bit on things like tariffs and those kind of things. >> and the seat is open because p current congressman was leaving to head a business group. >> and let me ask you this question. when you see a 10 point swing toward democrats as it relates to this election, what do you think that is for, what is the reason behind that? are we seeing a significant shift in support for the president ...

Should not be much of a race. the open seat gave an unusual circumstance. but, yeah, it has been about a ten point swing. i think danny o'connor, the democrat, he is a young franklin county recorder. a lot of it has been getting him more well-known in the district. and i think democrats nationally seem to be kind of sitting back and waiting to see how well he performs. i think they have been impressed. he has been outraising troy balderson, he is doing a pretty good job of getting his name out there. and i think as more people engage in this and as activists across the country engage on the de...

Let's take that as a jumping off point here just to talk about the way i think you could say cynical way in which the president is using something like this. >> well, racism and race wait bawait -- race-baiting is clearly the best tool he thinks he has. this is a changing country. nonwhite children outpace the birth of white children. the country is changing. now, you can be someone more like barack obama in this way and you can actually appeal to people's better angels and say listen, there is nothing to be afraid of, we'll all do this together, or you can be like donald trump and you can bri...

Rally in pennsylvania this week noted that most of that speech during that rally was devoted to attacking the media, to talking about police electoral victory. how much does he need to talk about ohio specifically in his speech tonight? >> i don't know. i mean he -- normally that is not his style. he will come in and i'm guessing that he will talk a little about troy balderson and about the race, but i suspect a lot of speech just like when mike pence was here a couple days ago will focus on his agenda, on his messaging, his attacks on the media or whatever he wants to do there. but i think re...