following that bull. they said he was out to get to safe place. they initiated protocol. and i haven t timed the video, but i would say that they had him in less than 30 seconds roped and contained. todd: wow. they were amazing. todd: we got to run. will you bring your family back to the rodeo ever again? 5 seconds to you you, danielle. most definitely. not only the sisters rodeo every year but every other rodeo that is close. we are definite rodeo fans. todd: danielle smithers thank you for that video. the bull was named party bus. more like the bachelor party at the end of the night at the beginning. carley: not a busy would want to be on. todd: fox & friends begins right now. carley: have a good day, everybody. the sitcom begins. brian: sounds liked i should be walking and the kitchen et, hi, hone i m home. it feels like that. go ahead, steve. i digress. steve: it s 6:0-:35. ainsley: 30 seconds until 6:01. steve: this is not a sitcom it s a news program. tuesday, june 11th my parents anniversary, welcome aboard. president biden appearing to freeze up during a unity is jun. accusing republicans of disenfranchising voters. they are all ghosts in new garments trying to take us back. taking away your freedoms. making it harder for black people to vote. i don t think he has any rhythm. this as a feigned pollster say items should still consider dropping biden from the ticket. uber driver going viral for. lawrence: look at her. she has rhythm. ainsley: karaoke sing along. karaoke. lawrence: that woman can dance. brian: jimmy failla has a new idea to start his show. fox & friends starts right now. remember mornings are better with friends good morning, get dressed. steve: all right. in just a couple of hours. day two of deliberations are going to start in hunter biden s gun trial in delaware. brian: yep. the fate of the president s son could be decided as soon as today after federal prosecutors told them to ignore the first family s presence through the proceedings. ainsley: there were about a dozen of them in the courtroom. rich edson live in wilmington outside the courtroom. what can we expect today, rich? will we get a decision? we very well could. jurors are back at it 9:00 a.m. judge mary ellen neighbor can a will deliberations will resume. they deliberated yesterday about one hour and 10 minutes after hearing an hour of clo close arguments. using drugs lying about it on a federal form and legally owning and possessing that weapon for 11 days all in october of 2018. they led off their presentation referring directly to the biden family members in the courtroom including the first lady saying people sitting in the gallery are not evidence and that nobody is above the law. prosecutors highlighted his ex-girlfriend zoe kestan and high hallie biden s drug use. reviewed text messages he sent hallie days after buying that gun claiming he was meeting a gun dealer and smoking crack. watched hunter testify fill out that federal form and check no to the question about being a drug user. ababe magic trickrelying on paso prove hunter was using drugs when he bought that gun. there are no photos of him using drugs in december of 2018 or testimony at this trial of witnesses actually observing hunter use drugs then. as for those texts in the week that hunter bought the gun, claiming he was meeting a dealer and smoking crack. lowell said hunter had lied to hale biden before about where he was. if hunter is convicted. he faces $757,000 in fine and 20 years in prison. that s the max he would though be a first time nonviolent offender if he is convicted. back to you. steve: so, rich, the conventional wisdom if there is a verdict today, a quick verdict, that would probably not be so good for hunter. but, if it dration on there could be one or two or a couple of jury members who are going i got some doubts. yeah. absolutely. if this happens quickly. and this is just reading the tea leaves here how things have gone before. if the jury comes back very quickly and says hey, we have a decision. probably a bad signal for hunter biden. if this drags out, as you said, steve, they have a handful of jurors i don t know about this, i don t know about that. really all they need is one is to not go along in this hung jury. you are the one outside. keep us posted rich edson live in wilmington, thank you very much. lawrence: it s going to be interesting. if the verdict comes back today and hunter biden is now a convicted felon, if the president continues to use the rhetoric on the campaign trail. as we know he says hunter biden is the smartest guy that he knows. if his son is now a convicted felon is this something that he still uses on the campaign trail. steve: about trump? lawrence: about donald trump. i think he will probably limit it if hunter biden is convicted. steve: but, you know, it s a great point, lawrence, he has kind of limited it so far. maybe is he telegraphing it. i m not going to say it about donald trump i will let my other people do the talking like that. brian: i will ad something else about that. when they talk about a convicted felon. that s going to come up in the debated, i guess, perhaps, when he brings that up. also, i think the best thing to happen for president trump would be for this hometown jury to exonerate this guy and say oh, is he just an addict and the problem is, too, it could have been so much worse. ainsley: are they going to do that for everybody else that does the same thing and breaks the law. brian: everybody there knows the bidens. ainsley: he made the decision to do the drugs. if he lied about doing drugs on a drug form that s illegal. it doesn t matter whose son he is he decided not to testify. there were a bunch of biden family members inside the courtroom which could sway the jury. they might see all of his relatives. the first lady and say oh, gosh, they are powerful people. i m i m not going to brian: the prosecutor to your point, ainsley, addressed that in the closing yesterday and said that the people that are in the crowd is not a body of evidence. essentially telling to the jury, listen, follow the facts as they i don t care who is in the courtroom. you should ignore that. ainsley: none of that matters he says. brian: almost like a script writer. you literally have the texts of him doing drugs, the name of the drug dealer and location is he giving it. almost as if he wants to be caught. might be great psychologists dr. phil should sit down and look at this because he seems to be so resentful of his family and the pressure on his shoulders. next thing you know the laptop is out there. in it is everything the family has been up to. the denials the family went through. the flipping to now all of a sudden understanding everyone understands it is real. and then waiting long enough that his foreign agent the charges of him being unregistered foreign agent the fara charges evaporate. those are the real things. nobody wants him on the gun charge. they wanted to find out why was paul manafort in solitary confinement when you are doing the same thing, worse, on a multiple of countries? ainsley: maybe he was high when he was writing those text messages. think about we don t do drugs, we have had glasses of wine, maybe you are overserved a little bit too much. you say something to someone that you regret the next day. then can you understand how that could happen. maybe when he is texting people, talking about his dealer and he is sitting in the car smoking crack, he might have been high. brian: perfect punctuation for a crack guy. better than mine and i m not on crack. right? steve: that is true. i have seen some of your text messages. brian: my dashes and my commas? steve: ultimately, the bigger issue here is this law that he is accused of breaking is to make sure that people who are not addicts or addicted to drugs get guns. that s really what is all with . the prosecution proved yesterday they said that he did. leo weiss, the prosecutor said if this evidence didn t establish that hunter biden was a crack addict and unlawful user then no one else is a crack addict. ainsley: gun laws. lawrence: interesting thing happened at the white house. juneteenth musical festival yesterday at the white house. and the president was there. and many people that were observing it can you go to twitter and see it. they think that the president froze during that moment. i think that the president just has no rhythm. and is not a part of it. steve: that s what mike lee the senator says. lawrence: i agree with the senator. the reason why this is important is because if know joe biden. he always says it was a part of the black church. he marched through the civil rights. naacp. joined the naacp very early limit for someone that has been around black people his entire life, been in the church dancing with him and everything. he has no rhythm at all and i don t know but, but the white people there that i grew up. ate at the dinner table that went to church with us. they can dance just as good as we could. can you clap. anybody can clap. brian: lawrence, don t overstate it. don t overstate white people. got it wrong though. white people i grew up with could keep up with you. steve: the president is certainly motionless kirk franklin. brian: maybe so much. steve: they celebrated last night. they observed juneteenth early. but it did give the administration the chance to talk a little bit and joe biden never mentioned his political opponents by name. but you could tell who he was talking about. listen to this from the president last night. clear, they are all ghosts in garments trying to take us back. they are. taking away your freedoms, making it harder for black people to vote. i will have your vote counted. closing doors of opportunity. attacking the values of diversity, equity and inclusion. it s about our present and our future. it s whether that future is a future all of us, not just for some of us. brian: dei down # 4% among corporate america. it s not republicans. by the way, if you want to go back into the past. and that s what he is inferring or implying, i think it s democrats that put on the hoods and were kkk. i think it was democrats that wanted separate but equal. wanted segregation. do you want to keep hearkening back to when your party was confused about equality for all was all about and why he keeps going back to a time in a country that he runs to paint such a brutal scenario as if it were premandela south africa is beyond me. steve: he wants to look, it s a political season, he wants to say hey, i m protecting you, donald trump is going to take your rights away. that s one of the reasons why the vice president was there she ticked off the administration s accomplishments. she went on and on. tapped the first female black supreme court justice. signed the gun law. the white house issued a fact sheet outlining measures to protect black history all at the hands of joe biden. brian: republicans are looking to take it away. ainsley: look at the polls though, they are about one fourth of black voters are liking trump. his poll numbers have dropped among black voters. steve: biden s? ainsley: 79%. now 72%. polling guru nate silver who runs 538. is he suggesting that biden s latest approvallor disapproval ratings might be cause for him to get out of the race. i don t know, but it s more than fair to ask this. so, the approval rating for joe biden is now 37.4%. steve: posted two things on x. he said, first of all, what, clear my opinion is that democrats would have been better served if biden had decided a year ago not to seek a second term which would have allowed he them to have some semblance of a primary process and give voters a say among many democrats across the country it. continues, biden just hit a new all time low. 38. dropping out would be a big risk but there is some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger threat risk are we there yet? i don t know. it s more than fair to ask. keep in mind, nate silver back in february, we talked about it on the couch. actually couch in the other room, said, you know what? his numbers stink. and they would be smart, the democrats would be to find somebody else. lawrence: it s important to realize who joe biden is talking to when he makes inflammatory comments like that. he is not talking to democrats at large. is he not even talking to republicans. he is talking to the black and hispanic voters that are shifting to the other direction. and he is saying don t you move. he is saying if you re thinking about going for donald trump, forget about the economic success. forget about where you may stand on the issues. you cannot move. and i need to remind you of the fear campaign for years and years that we have done as a democratic party. and so this is not a president that wants to be inspirational. this is not a president that wants to say that you do better. is he not even a president that says that i m pushing you forward as a community. i need to remind you that the republican brian, you laid out the history in great way. but he said dismiss that don t worry about the history. you need to understand that the republicans wanted to put you in chains and if you vote for them. brian: you ain t black. lawrence: you ain t a part of the community. brian: he said you ain t black. lawrence: he said it on the campaign trail last time don t you dare move. i predicted this. ainsley: lawrence says last i checked, yes i am. lawrence: bingo. i predicted. this ever since the bronx rally if you pay attention to the democrats. the heat is turning up because you have been seeing the crowds and you have been seeing these diverse faces. and it s freaking the democrats out. if they if they get half of what the polling is suggesting in the next election, republicans, then it s over for the democrats. so they need them. and so they can t talk about the issues. they have to run on fear, brian. brian: yeah, i think it s so you irresponsible to the leader of the country to talk as if america is 1972 or 1958. run on the country. inspirational message what you will do. barack obama, anyone was going to say president obama. he didn t have that message. wasn t he the vice president during that time? steve: sure. lawrence: in his defense he could have forgotten what year we are in. brian: the speech writer didn t because more morehouse and charlamagne tha god,. ainsley: might be white or hispanic saying they re trying to take us back, excuse me, trump is trying to take us back. that s just not true. the black community knows that is so wrong, correct? steve: ultimately, what they are trying to do it s an election year, going back to where we started, he, joe biden is in trouble with a number of his core item gratification. that s one of the reasons right now they are freaking out at the white house that across the river from the white house is the commonwealth of virginia. right now, the latest poll we showed it s neck and neck between donald trump and joe biden. i think they are tied at 48 or 49%. brian: three straight polls. steve: 48% right there. joe biden won that pretty reliably blue state by 10 points four years ago. glenn youngkin, the current governor was on with sean hannity last night and said, you know what? this state is up for grabs. i believe it is. and that s exactly what the polls are showing us. just like georgia and pennsylvania and wisconsin, michigan, nevada and arizona. those battle ground states are seeing the exact same kind of statement that virginians are making. they want a strong america. they want an america that has economic strength. not the biden-generated economy that s unleashed inflation. brian: new hampshire same thing. i haven t seen a poll in minnesota. but if minnesota is also in play? my goodness you are talking about 40 states that could be going into the former president s column. i just saw a fascinating story on politico. the lead story how wall street is now coming to the president. silicon valley over the weekend, you saw what happened. lawrence: huge event. brian: david sacks came out and said i expected 45 million ended up with 12 million. john cass that meets blackstone steven shoultsman. port bridge capital. ackman, ken griffin from citadel all saying in the past i had a problem after january 6th. i voting for desantis. i supported desantis. i m. in part of it is these court cases. they see the way the businessman is being secured and on manufactured charges. ainsley: and inflation and how that is affecting their bottom line, too. president trump is meeting with 200 ceos on thursday for a round table discussion about his business plan and how you will be better off with my economy versus joe biden s. lawrence: do you know what i worry, about though, ainsley, when you look at the polling and see minority voters. see the business community. you see republicans uniting behind the president, we still got a long way until the election. and so i worry with the polling data being where it is and everyone being on fire. that some people may stay at home. i just think it s important as the president and the former president campaigns because the republicans already have a problem with he shallly voting and mail-in ballots as well. and to the former president s credit. he is telling republicans now that they need to use all measures all tools of voting. but you don t want your side to get too excited and to say well, it looks like it s in the bag. i m going to stay at home. i worry about that. brian: the national poll has been a dead heat, one or two points, all in the margin of error. july 11th will be the biggest day. ainsley: 4 #-49. steve: how the white house is enlisting hollywood to try to get those kids interested and where are they going to advertise? tiktok. brian: robert deniro doesn t seem angry. ainsley: their pac is called i have it on here somewhere. what is the name of their pac? it s won t back down. liberal grirts park and liberation and snl. steve: we won t back down. 20 minutes after the hour. brian: what do you mean. ainsley: i will share them. turning now to your headlines beginning with chaotic anti-israel protests in new york city. [sho [chanting] ainsley: honoring victims of the nova music festival murdered by hamas october 7th. protesters set off flares and set off anti-israel slogans. elsewhere in the city could be seen carrying around a banner saying long live october 7th. can you believe that? praising the mass killings committed by hamas. which left over 1200 israelis dead. at least 120 hostages are still in the hands of hamas. house republicans release never before seen footage from januar. appearing to show former house speaker nancy pelosi make a stunning admission on camera. why weren t the national guard there to begin with? they thought they had sufficient yeah not a question if they have they don t know. they clearly didn t know and i take responsibility for not having them just prepare for war. lawrence: wow, huge. ainsley: remember they requested. and they requested and denied. brian: she takes responsibility. ainsley: pelosi seemingly taking responsibility for the failed response in the clip from three years ago but the down playing those remarks. the fact is that the president of the united states, the former president and his to does do not want to face the facts. they are trying to do revisionist history on january 6th. lawrence: she is such a liar. ainsley: pelosi s team maintains the former speaker was not in charge of security at the capitol complex at the time. brian, would you like it share the headlines? brian: officials in california rescuing a stranded kite surfer after the pilot spotted the word help on the sand. genius. a first responder went down from the helicopter and the surfer was hoisted to safety. it is not clear how long they were stung on the beach. officials say the surfer did not need medical attention. ainsley, you take it back. ainsley: all right. uber driver in florida going viral after hitting all the right notes with passengers. i usually only have one rule in my car everybody dance now i got karaoke we need you to take us watch this, watch this. low, low, low, low, low ainsley: i hope she is at a stoplight there she even has a microphone. she lives in tampa. if you are in tampa. you might get her as an uber driver. one of a kind karaoke experiences where riders choose a song and they sing their hearts out. five star rated driver says, quote: i realized when people got in my car we weren t going to agree on religion or politics but music is a uniter. music touches everybody s soul. steve: she is absolutely right. she gives everybody. okay. here is my spotify list. go ahead and hit something. the words come on. she has apparently got props in the back where there is like a microphone and some michael jackson glasses and stuff like that. can you act it out. brian: i bet she doubles her salary a year because of tips. apple boughten jeans with the fur. ainsley: apple bottom jeans flo rida. steve: she is in florida. brian to your point about she probably has doubled her pay. just the fact that she is on tiktok. she is making money on that tiktok thing. we just showed it and probably a million people. brian: now the chinese have seen and it using it against her. you know the problem wither h right? chewing gum. lawrence: come on. brian: i have to ask her. ainsley: what would you do in her backseat. brian: have to ask people to take it out. steve: it s her car. get out of her car. ainsley: music is so loud. would you sing karaoke? i don t think you would. lawrence: imagine seeing all that talent and you see gum in the mouth. unbelievable. brian: coming up next. it s a bit of a mystery. there are many ways to do things. at old dominion freight line, we do them this way. this way has people who start early. people who care and inspire each other to do things the way they should be done. this way uses technology ( ) and goes the extra mile ( ) to deliver your promises on-time, every time. this way is why we re the number one national ltl carrier for quality. for us, this way is the right way which is why it s the only way we go. voices of people with cidp: cidp disrupts. cidp derails. let s be honest. all: cidp sucks! voices of people with cidp: but living with cidp doesn t have to. when you sign up at shiningthroughcidp.com, you ll find inspiration in real patient stories, helpful tips, reliable information, and more. cidp can be tough. but finding hope just got a little easier. sign up at shiningthroughcidp.com. all: be heard. be hopeful. be you. 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very bad. tremendous uptick in criminal activity. we want to talk about there was recently a shooting where the migrant shot, two of our police officers. our local cops. trying to keep us safe who were tailing him because he was a suspect in several robberies. now, they shoot at our police officers. we have stealing packages off the stoops. hundreds and hundreds of motor scooters using to commit crime. prostitution shelters outside. roosevelt avenue plagued by a wave of lawlessness. that wave is clearly coordinating to what what has been coming in and our lack of effective response by those in government today representing us. brian: how would you describe the neighborhoods, the ethnicity, the income that are being abused like this by these illegal immigrants who obviously are ungrateful despite getting free room, free shelter, free board? the majority of the district that i represent as district leader and i represented in the past is council member, is he a working class of people of color community overwhelmingly latino and african-american, asian, and south asian. brian: how angry are they. very angry. the fact of the matter in my community, a lot of homeowners, there is taxpayers. residents of our community who really are important part of our city, the fabric of who we re. and they support all the good things and then now they are in a good decent neighborhood and they have all these shelters coming in and really negatively impacted. very poor planning by all at the table. brian: 19-year-old involved in the gang. neck tattoo. bulls jersey that says they are involved in these gangs. out to kill people. the guy that shot the two cops was still struggling. they were still trying to get him in the car there was no contrition. they are sending us their worst. there s no doubt about it. based on my experience, living in queens in the community that literally is the pertinent of epicenter.large segment of peopy part of organized crime networks operating in the borough of queens. brian: democratic administration. democratic officials. some for some reason washington doesn t want to hear from the cities. doesn t want to hear from queens. doesn t want to hear from the mayor. but i m glad you are speaking out and taking action. listen, the bottom line is we all want to be safe. we want public safety and we want everyone in office to understand that our community deserves to be safe just like any other place in america. brian: keep on demonstrating and we will keep on covering it. all right, hiram hopefully things will change. installing vape detectors in bathrooms to crack down on troublemakers. music unnecessary action hero! unnecessary. was that necessary? 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steve: i m doing okay. i understand this was actually the idea of a student who said, you know, there are people vaping in there. i remember when in high school they were smoking in the boys room. now they are just vaping in the boys room and girls room, right? absolutely. one of my students that sits on my principal s council now a ninth grader brought this to our attention and really wanted us to do something about it. steve: with this a.i. technology it can actually detect vapor. and apparently it can tell the difference between nicotine and pot? yes. it actually can determine between different chemical signatures in the air. so even if the girls are spraying perfume it won t go of o. but if they re using a vape and let s say it has nicotine or marijuana it will send a signal to us right away. steve: you get an email immediately, what do you do? well, i have security officers in my building that carry ipads who they get the alert just as quickly as i do. so then they go to that bathroom and they check on see holt students were that were in the bathroom in a time frame. we bring them down to the office. we can do backpack checks. we can talk to the kids a lot of times the kids will del us straight upfront. kids are usually good. they tell us they are try these things because it s cool. steve: right, indeed. the peer pressure. hey, look at this. i got a vape pen, whatever, try it. and that s how it starts. in addition, apparently there are no microphones. but there is this a.i. technology algorithm that can hear sounds. so, that, you know, if people are involved in a fight or roughhousing, but it can differentiate between like a toilet lid slamming and, i know, somebody getting a haymaker. yes. it can definitely. what it does, it registers the decibels in the room and sends us annual alert if it is over a period of time. but, also realize middle schoolers are loud no matter. what sometimes when they are in the room it s a little loud. steve: i would imagine just knowing that they have got the vape detectors in the bathrooms now, that s got to be some sort of a deterrent. they have to find some place. absolutely. the whole idea behind this was to stop new kids from vaping. so, that, you know, the ones who are already doing it and are addicted trying to help. the ones we want to stop are the ones before they start. steve: it s great idea. frank, thank you very much for joining us from new york. and congratulations on your retirement. at the end of this season as an educator frank is going to go fishing. thank you very much. have great day. steve: you too, have a great life and summer as well. all right. you too. steve: thanks, frank. 17 minutes before the top of the hour. serrie is getting senatorrer as apple rolls out a massive ai update is there any way to escape ai in every part of our lives? 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ainsley: what if you miss something? what if the narrative is controlled it s not controlled by me it s a machine and someone else programming that telling it to summarize in a certain way. ainsley: elon musk if apple integrates open ai at the of level apple devices will be banned at my companies. that is unacceptable security violation. kurt: two things there. is he right. is he right about being a more of a private and security risk. if you noticed in the announcement yesterday what tim cook said is we re bringing in the opportunity on top of apple intelligence work on a machine. we re now going to connect this outward and allow you to ask chatgpt things that you might want to know. you can share a document with them. photos, videos so, now you re inapparently very private stuff is being encouraged to share outwardly to chatgpt s open ai. i don t know if i m comfortable with that yet. i have a lot of questions about it because that s not how i m used to apple being. ainsley: our children. i don t want a.i. to necessarily have that. kurt: the second thing with elon musk that you have to measure there, he has a beef with open ai. he has a dispute with them. at first when i heard that i thought, all right, is he just mouthing off on his dispute. but, he has got a point. he has got a point that we have to really measure our privacy here. and we have to start asking ourselves bigger questions about ai. because now apple is in the game. and they are writing the ticket for everybody in the world in terms of what we do with technology. we need to ask ourselves to what extent do we want ai to control our lives? because a wave of unmeasured, unbounded ai is going to be coming at us, and we may not have decisions to be made it may not be easy to make our own decisions in the future what machine is doing it for you again and again and again. people s mindset gets into that direction. ainsley: all these tech companies taking advantage of it. cutting edge and they want to bed first. hand it over to brian. hi,brian. brian: hi, ainsley. keep in touchy will try to see you during the break. arrest made after three alarm fire tore through miami complex yesterday. a 73-year-old man allegedly got into an argument with an employee, shot them, then set the place on fire. that worker is in critical condition. four others required medical assistance for smoking inhalation including three firefighters. authorities say over 40 residents. most of whom are elderly, were rescued. now. this shocking video out of jefferson county, colorado. showing a person proudly tearing up an american flag. it was planted on the side of a road to honor a fallen police or fallenpolice officers after e creating a total of 7 flags the vandal gave the surveillance officer the middle finger. sheriff s office is asking for help to identify the person so so she quotes gets the encore she deserves. remember the man in michigan who went viral during his court appearances for driving without a license? just give me one second. i m parking right now. so maybe i don t understand something. you are driving without a license suspended? that is correct, your honor. and he was just driving and he doesn t have a license? based upon what the court looked at he has never had a michigan license, ever. and has never had a license in the other 49 states and commonwealths that form up this great union. brian: you can t suspend something you never h corey harris now has his learner s permit after passing a theory test. he was seen dancing after getting the good news and could get his full license as soon as next month. i don t understand how can you actually get a license after it was suspended after not having had one and being in trouble for driving anyway. steve: it s this easy, brian, he never had a license. he thought he had a license but then it was apparently suspended because he wasn t paying child support. so he never had a license. so it was impossible to suspend it. lawrence: this is after we apologized. we ran the story. and we ll found. steve: the state got the story wrong. lawrence: apparently all this outrage on social media you just embarrassed this guy. it was a court error. and then the judge comes upped from the secretary of state the judge goes there was no error. he just never had a license. so. ainsley: how do you think he had a license. he took the license test or he didn t. brian: either a stranger got in your car with a clipboard or it didn t happen. or did you just pick up somebody in the street and say would you judge my driving? lawrence: that is true. a little too in my opinion is he a little too old for a learner s permit. steve: never too old. lawrence: i got a learner s permit when i was 14. ainsley: is he up to date on his child support payment? steve: we don t know about that. once again a great guy to have on the show we have a million. lawrence: ainsley wants to know if he is taking care of the kids. ainsley: take care of your babies. maybe is he now. they wouldn t give him a permit before because he wasn t. steve: learner s permit so he can officially get a license. good luck. lawrence: we ll cover it. more fox & friends. we still got two hours. brian: if they want to wrap us. now playing the music before we wrap. the control room is taking control and joe bide
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[ cheering and applause ] trace: good evening emma trace gallagher, it s alone pm on the east coast, 8:00 in los angeles and this is a mega slate news, fox news @ night . breaking side, dramatic new media of the heroic military operation in gaza that rescued four s early hostages from a palestinian terrorist, eric cohen is here to give us a step-by-step of what happened but the media somehow condemning israel for saving its own citizens, and then and there is this. this is about what i will personally label, the idiocy of team usa women s basketball. how dare you make this decision? it is stupid. trace: national controversy after caitlin clark was left off of the 2024 olympic women s basketball team, should she have made team usa? it is eight the nightcap we need to input on. what happens when your employer forces you to embrace a progressive symbol that goes against your religious beliefs? when california christian lifeguard is suing the la county fire department, he would join us live on set with his protest. we begin with tall tales being called out. a lengthy fact check of the false stories and joe biden has told stroud his 50 years of public service, except the times goes to great lengths to call him everything but lies. kevin corke is live and in dc with more, good evening. tall tales indeed, good evening. he would never expect the left-leaning new york times to call it president biden but am doing is so, a pattern is now beginning to emerge with more and more usually reliable media outlets willing to point out mr, his attention for telling lies or as a times puts it, tall tales had an understanding mind you that any misstatements or statistical or factual errors from former president trump, those were lies but these are tall tales? nonetheless, of the times is keeping the score and mr. biden is openly racking up. for example,, he said he was nominated for an appointment to the naval academy, not so. no records of that. he also said he is to drive an 18 wheeler, he drove a school bus and he took a 500-mile trip as a senator, a cargo truck. he leaders that he was arrested during the civil rights movement, no record of that. but he did deliver the eulogy for former west virginia senator who had one point in his life had been an organizer and member of the kkk. biden also claims to be the first and his family to go to college and the nephew of a cannibalism victim. report in while she wrote of this, all of these claims stretching the truth or are downright false. she also edited by an often drastic, with different audiences through hyperbole. saying mr. biden s approval ratings have plummeted not the lowest level lever according to nati silvers 538, biden sitting at 37.4 percent just under five months to go before the american people decide about every election day. trace: low number, kevin corke live before us in bc. thank you. [ ] the fox news and add commonsense department has a question for the new york times got comic how much how come donald trump tells thais and joe bondy tells tall tales, hyperboles, exaggerations? it s funny because common sense is pretty in two and with the media and could swear that joe biden lies all the time, constantly, consistently. but for some reason in the liberal media, biden speaks only the truth. the new york times says that biden often tries connecting with his audience through hyperbole . we also told at times biden uses rhetorical flourishes back factual liberty . common sense is confused, is the uncle who was eaten by cannibals a rhetorical flourish or a factual liberty? how about a biden driving the big rig, being the first and his family to attend college, graduating at the top of his class? what about the phony laptop, never talking business with his son? the media will tell you it is not a lie, it is unverified, when that joe biden is just stretching to. mark twain said there are three types of lies, lies, it damn lies and statistics, clearly referencing to trump. sense think biden would know kinda joe would not tell a damn lie, he would simply stretch and embellish a rhetorical flourishing, factual liberty. and with that let s bring in a steamboat institute fellow kaylee mcghee white and princeton university put it was scientists, lauren a. wright. thank you both were coming on. kaylen to you for his, is the new york times kidding with this, this the torah goal flourish? others layers of the leaders of hypocrisy within this new york times report. firstly attempt to suggest that biden s lies is somehow less egregious than trump s plea because trump was making false claims about a so-called stolen election when the reality is, there are plenty of democrats have also made similar lies who have not wound up with lengthy new york times fact checks. also hypocritical fact that these lies that biden has told which are very numerous as you have pointed out in your segment , it s been around for decades to maggot they were around into the 2020 election. suddenly the new york times is just deciding to do fact check on them? the only difference to me it seems is that joe biden is no longer a good candidate for the democratic party. he is losing in the polls to trump when he wasn t back in 2020 and at the media is trying to turn on him. trace: mate taking a much closer look, a pole from care television out of minnesota, this is about how enthusiastic the candidate are they. look at the numbers, you have trump at 61.5 percent and biden added 30.9 percent. that is double the number. there s something going on here because we are constantly told the country doesn t like either of these candidates but clearly somebody does. to caleigh s point, the sad thing for democrats is biden is the best they ve got. harris is not electable, and he beat her fair and square along with the rest of the candidates in the democratic primary. yes, he stories are egregious. those are not the issues that will lead biden and the election on average, americans are angry and they feel less safe, last free, less prosperous than they did under trump. simple calculation they are making, yes at the age is an issue and it new york times and others are right to pointed out but but it s not at the top of welders minds. trace: this is from dana white, of the ceo of ufc, he said this about donald trump, watch. number 1, take any of the greatest fighters of all time, trump is number 1. you ve got money, you got a great life, you got whatever, keep doing it. this guy loves this country and he loves all americans. trace: talked a lot of americans, a lot of the straw he sat through day by day a mark a lot of them say yes, he is a fighter. you can say whatever you want but he is a fighter stone and that s a calculation voters have made, maybe if they don t like trump personally the appreciate the fact he is willing to go to bat for them. i think my own family members, who normally would vote democrats but they feel left behind by biden s democratic party. and trump was the only one willing to fight for the issues they care about. trace: canadians at colleges and conservative media commentator jordan peterson art of the animosity towards trump and the leaders, trumped arrangement. final thoughts on this. that degree upon musty or trumpet is somewhat of a mystery to me. i cannot quite crack it. there is a class paid their albot say. elitist people are annoyed that somebody like donald trump or somebody who they think donald trump is has dared to enter the upper echelons so there s something about it that is very classist. trace: something makes them hate him, but not sure why. 30 seconds. there is an elite coastal factor at play here, road about how trump came into the election with 95 percent name recognition but everybody was absolute shock t1. a beloved celebrity, and that s as simple as it gets. i think the real embarrassment, misunderstanding with trump is that you says all of these offensive things, but they care more by the cable what you promises to do and i will be the end of it. trace: i think that is right. lauren, caleigh, thank you both. meantime fog scammers are a document in large groups of migrants illegally crossing into the u.s. as a biden s executive order on to the border appears to have little effect on the continuing a surge marianne rafferty live without story, joins as on-site guy good evening. no signs of slowing down, migrants continued to pour over the border in a drones leg before the executive order. with many saying that they flew into mexico and made their way to the border, some even consulting the internet to find guides. one migrants tolling as they feel welcomed by the biden administration. what you think of president biden? biden, a love biden. biden help us. an internal border patrol memo instructing san diego sector to release single adults from all but six countries in the eastern hemisphere, center and asked my said it s all part of the democrats plan. you don t have to be a citizen to go to the census that step one, and if they go to the embassy to vote, that is when they leave that s her road to more power and control. saying it s all about mike and safety, listen. our intent is to really change the risk calculus of individuals before they leave before the countries of origin and incentivize of them to use the lawful pathways who made available to them and keep them out of the hands of expletive smugglers. a senior patrol officer telling this newly uncovered memo only applies to the san diego sector and migrants released into the u.s. under its guidance are not actually eligible for asylum. trace: thank you tackles bring into the author of come on man, joe concha along with the federal staff contributor, evita duffy-alfonso. thank you both were coming on. i want to play this out, this is cbs face the nation, catches kind of stunned that americans [ inaudible ] would you support a new government program, that would deport all people in the u.s. illegally and that finds majority favor, six in 10. to unpack that a bit, 62 percent of americans in favor of deporting all undocumented immigrants. what mr. trump talks about could be illegal, it doesn t seem practical in some sense to round up children. what exactly do people think they are supporting? trace: i think they are exactly supporting the law of the countries, you? trays, market brandon is not unlike almost every other member of the media, to answer your question, yes, it s all about enforcing simple laws. it s a matter of journalists living in the safe spaces marianne rafferty ivory towers, new york, washington, not talking to anybody outside of their own ecosystem. here are the facts, majority of americans support a border wall construction. two thirds of that cbs poker nearly two thirds support mass deportation for those who entered the country illegally. illegal immigration as you know is a number 1 number 2 issue. for what is most important to voters marianne rafferty, and somehow shocked by this kiger shows how out of touch leads in the media are, not just on immigration but inflation, because neither impacts him the way he does the average voter. trace: here is as cnn legal analysts who thinks hundred biden, maybe he imagined when he thought he was clean. a jury could also say wait way to second prosecutors, needed not say are establish this individual used or possessed these drugs it during the october 2018, warned that the defendant knowingly did so. he may have thought he was cleaning, that he was fixing his life up and so on. trace: is a scripted? do you your thoughts? and they are doing the job of his defense team, working for the hunter biden defense team packets shock and. also using this from media right now, that he is an addict, we need to be compassionate towards him because other americans struggle with us. and it falls on deaf ears, somebody who has an addiction and my own family, that does not mean he have a free pass. this is what is interesting, we have preached by these individuals into the corporate media that the monkey have to be compassionate, rally against white privilege, nabo baby white privilege hundred biden comes in and break the law all of a sudden we have to break all the rules. and these are democrat laws. trace: i want to move through these two things quickly, in bc but this headline of, is really military rescues for hostages, more than 400 plus trains killed, then york times and the associated press have been saying the same stuff. unbelievable, you know, you thoughts? gaza health officials literally is hamas. you cannot take them at their word. did throughout 200 people, five minutes after something happens and in the new york times, almost every other media outlet echoes that. it s utterly ridiculous, we have lived with us since october 7th they continue to do it and where are the only network calling it out. i guess it s not enough? trace: the new york post, gaza journalist who wrote for al jazeera was holding three hostages in home with family. israel says, a journalist, for al jazeera, holding hostages. i mean the media has been discrediting itself over and over again, when it comes to any other story we see important in our country. the format, the russia collusion hoax, just discrediting themselves over and over again. trace: over and over again, thank you both. mean audrey to liberations underweight for hunter biden s gun track the defense closed its case without calling the president sent to the stand, live with more in willington, delaware, good evening. good evening, this trial of elite moving rapidly, only a week old, jurors will come back tomorrow and o clock eastern time after deliberating for about one hour before going home. evita duffy-alfonso hunter biden had a lot of family members inside of the courts today showing him support. he seemed upbeat, smiling, giving them xoxox as there were breaks in the courtroom which is significant. jurors have to decide whether hunter biden lied on the gun form in 2018 when he said he was not addicted to drugs, they say that he committed three different felonies, two of those felonies where it falls a statement, one deals with possession of that gun in 2018. now the government does not have to prove that hunter was on drugs and he bought a gun or even into the month of tobit. jurors have to weigh the general time period, prosecution showed text messages, hunter biden it texting his sister-in-law, talking about doing drugs, the lawyer for the government jurors told not to focus on the presence of famous people, meaning the first lady and others who have continuously showed up. it isn t wanted jurors to be distracted, wants them to focus on the actual evidence marianne rafferty hunters and attorney power did to the gun form that says are you on unlawful user or addicted to illegal drugs, it is and say have you ever been, it s about hunters a frame of mind is what i below says. again it jurors back tomorrow, if convicted hunter could face up and i say could, up to 25 years behind bars marianne rafferty is also possible the jury could have a split verdict, fighting him guilty on one and acquit him on two others. trace: see you tomorrow night. live it for as in delaware. let s bring in former deputy assistant attorney general john yoo, great to have a. hunter biden s attorney as david was saying, biden did not consider himself an addict when you bought a gun. it s not what he said, but what do you think? it is not a plausible defense. i don t think it s going to work. i think really the defense is hope is that the jury being in delaware just chooses not to follow the law, not to find the clear facts. and went to the defense put on to this idea that oh, hunter biden might have used drugs a few weeks before, maybe a few weeks after but not in that timeframe, it opened the door for the prosecution to introduce all of these tax and all of this geolocation data about where hunter biden was and his cell phone and he is texting a trying to find drug dealers at the 711 in wilmington. it s just the day before when the day after. so turned out to be very harmful to his case. i don t really see a defense that is going to work here. to really puzzling why the ever went to trial the first place. trace: try to find a guy named mookie, does he do jail time, hunter biden? no, he is looking at some come to thank he does jail time? i don t think so. may have to look at it this way, i think many people are thinking about it this, this is a prelude to the much more serious cage which is going to take place where you are in la, i think it wasn t rescheduled in september about millions of dollars in tax evasion. so here, hunter biden first-time offender, be he probably won t do jail time but he maybe a convicted felon. that means you have to serve jail if he s convicted in the second federal trial in september. trace: i have to go but here s the thing, in the drum document case today, breaking news, judge jeanine denied a motion to dismiss some charges but the new york times reports of fallen, of the government must remove it from its charges an episode in which mr. trump has been shown a highly sensitive military map to one of his close aides after he left office, of the decision by judge or was it more of a swipe at prosecutors working for special counsel. jack smith. what do you think? this is favorable for donald trump, there was no way they were going to wind of the motion on dismissing the case entirely, the prosecution can still go forward. but that was one of them more damaging facts in the indictment, and is key to them showing that the national interest was harmed in some way by president trump if he ask you had these documents, these classified documents in an unauthorized away. will make it harder for the prosecution to run its case there. trace: i think so. john yoo, going to have you on. coming up, dramatic video shows the moment is really hostages are recovered in a daring rescue? it is a video you have not seen, even if he had, we will have a eric cole and go through this and give you an idea what is happening. later in the the nightcap i get that woman s olympics committed to decision to leave caitlin clark off of the 2024 rosters sparking national debate with many calling the move eight snob, and mist opportunity to grow the game. caitlin clark does not deserve a spot ahead of any of the players on this roster. okay? we re talking basketball! you know were not! no, we are not. 4000 in attendance, now 18,000. this girl s box office. trace: meantime others point out at the olympics is not a popularity contest and she is simply not qualified yet as other woman who made the team, we want to know what you think, should caitlin clark have made team usa, why, why not, lead as snow @tracegallagher, coming up snow @tracegallagher, coming up in the the nightcap negative 80 have to see, that is next. at makes it possible is unmatched connectivity and 5g solutions from t-mobile for business. t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees, powers tractor supply s stores nationwide with reliable 5g business internet, and partners with pga of america on game changing innovation. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. arthritis pain? we say not today. tylenol 8 hour arthritis pain has two layers of relief. the first is fast, the second is long-lasting. we give you your day back, so you can give it everything. tylenol. number one doctor recommended for arthritis pain. [ ] trace: dramatic new vader tate of the rescue operation in gaza there in file that is really hostages their freedom, ashley strohmier with the details in the compelling images of the mission. good evening to. located the footage was captured of the helmet camera warned by an israeli operate of during the rescue mission, the video revealed just how dangerous it was to get out of the hostages from the hands of how w.a.s.p members of israel s yemen, in the operation unit it worked along the israel defense forces taking on heavy fire during the operation. now four more israelis have been reunited with their families after nearly 250 days in captivity. one parent of an israeli megan hostage who remains in captivity said about the return of noah. know saturday was the birthday of noah s data, also my birthday. is and as i heard the news is that he got the greatest gift in the world, distal a few few hours for me to get to get the same gift. hopefully soon. there s also been criticism from media outlets about the mission which resulted in the death of more than 270 palestinians according to the gaza health ministry. it is important to note that the ministry does not distinguish between civilians and hamas fighters and their data is often met with skepticism. was it today the united nations acadie council paused president biden s proposed cease-fire dale it has been approved by israel, hamas has yet to sign on. trace: thank you. let s bring in a veteran of azo special operations counterterrorism unit of aaron cohen out of the start of netflix skin it decision before and after pro- israeli activist dr. sheila nazarian, rabbi mentz and former navy seal who trained with the idea special forces, aaron ut you first, want to put this video up and go over this. give us an idea of what is going on here and how difficult was this mission? let me start off by saying that all of the intelligence that was harvested for this operation was do you to, and again in hebrew we have an expression, which means intelligence is born in the battlefield that s number 1. for the last eight months israel has been putting an incredible amount of pressure on hamas and that rolling intelligence based on blood pressure, s are competing we have discussed is the reason why this was actionable intelligence. what you re seeing here, is 18 or one asset working in conjunction with israel s domestic intelligence and security forces, and they are making forced entry into the structure from 360 degrees. useful as one of the only units in the world capable of doing that, they are literally the operators are flogging each other, crossing each other, the reason why is 360-degree assault overwhelms the tier risk, they can only point in one direction at a time when it is multiple barrels coming out of them of the violence of action and they attack, having the shots go straighter. these are behavioral-based tactics and the seventies israel team with their scientists and reformulated see qb which is what is this is, to be able to shoot straight or, should faster and get hostages home. trace: phenomenal. hamilton over to you, you can put the video back up, the washington post opinion, hamas is not interested in releasing hostages based on history the only way any additional is really hostages is getting freed is by rescue operations like the one the israeli defense forces launched on saturday. cameron diaz thank it is true that we can see more rescues like this, that we will need to see more rescue like this? absolutely. i think right now israel likely has the intelligence to garner more rescue missions, s sole purpose is to return the hostages safely and soundly and they continue the war against hamas. again we had to remind our viewers israel did not ask for this conflict, israel did not want this conflict. and want any unnecessary loss of life but hamas must come and release these hostages first and foremost. s will is taking tactics as covered by mr. aaron cohen had remarkable, trained a lot of u.s. military personnel as well. i think the dynamic scenario in the chaos is due to surprise of the hamas fighters when israeli forces encountered them in this building the. trace: amazing, it is. what you think of the biden administration negotiating could almost directly may be through qatar but almost directly with hamas? i think it is a waste of time, i think what you re seeing it here with this operation, whether or not hamas wants to give the back of the hostages or they would get of them back either way they are coming home. that is what i think. whether we got a kick down doors. by the way the operatives deployed on this operation, in his civilian clothing, dressed as local arabs, they pulled it off in broad daylight and the reason they were able to do that is because the element of surprise. i say to biden and his team, israel, we re getting back our people either way. trace: foxnews.com writes the following, at bbc anchor as exhibit israel forces worn palestinians ahead of the hostage rescue mission, i cannot imagine asking that question. it s a military operation that clearly took months to pull off and you gonna give notification? at the basic prerogative here is surprise and balance of action. if they lose the element of surprise whenever you engage in hostage rescue missions when he notified the assailants of what you are objectives, i think of israel were to engage in further conflict here and rescue more hostages it would be a categorical global skate mistake to modify how w.a.s.p you re potentially garnering a scenario will hamas will target and/or harm is really civilians for what? for the ultimate purpose of withdrawing israeli military, or engaging in bartered and shipped for further peace. we all want peace with it has to start with returning to the hostages, israel has to pull off what s necessary to return them home. trace: we said they would move all these college campuses and they have, they have surround the white house and called for a intifada revolution. here s some more video of these protesters, anti- israel pro- palestinian, very anti- just watch. [ bleep ]. trace: thoughts? listen, as an iranian, first-generation to america, we have been trying to warn the americans, america s next. americas now. and we are seeing it into these protests, weather defacing thinks calculated disrespecting america, they are just calling it out afford the killing of zionist, killing of jews out loud at this point. what is and how to take for americans to wake up? trace: rabbi mentz, he wrote let s not be distracted, how we know idea have could put all the hostages home wants ago and it would of the census murders of innocent palestinian children but we know their true motivation. it s kind of ironic, the jewish people have been we re about to salivate on wednesday, 3666 years since god came down and gave us the 10 commandments? thou shout not kill, thou shalt not murder. we the jewish nation never wanted to get into this war and if we were not hampered we would have done this in six days. the world has put handcuffs on israel and they allowed this is civilians not to leave to go to egypt. trace: camera here is in michigan giving a from the posting in his speech and she still gets heckled, watch. it we mourn all of the innocent lives that have been lost in gaza, including those tragically killed today. for the past eight months, president biden and i have been working every day to bring this conflict i m speaking right now. i value and respect you voice but i m speaking right now. trace: the keep trying to ruin of these far left radicals and yet they are not going to, your thoughts? my thoughts as the innocent palestinians tell us where the rest of the hostages are, come out now. trays, if i knew my next-door neighbors had kidnapped people and i don t come out and speak about it, my innocent? like to all of the innocent palestinians, come out and tell us where the hostages are, show us your innocence. to kamala harris, you cannot play both sides. they are failing. kamala harris, he built the sub, you allowed them to speak, gave them free speech and now, you got a problem with it? [ laughter ] welcome to it free speech is from your party. trace: 10 seconds, aaron cohen? israel pulled out a doozy, that was a magic trick i was talking but eight months ago, they got the pressure on hamas for the past 8 miles, there s a reason why know what home in three hostages are home. trace: dr. sheila nazarian, is aaron cohen, photomac, speeding. a life guard came under fire after refusing to fly a part of flag in his workstation and what happened after that? common sense, captain jeffrey little joins his life. a live earth camera looking at north carolina, nicknamed the land of the sky. who knew? we re coming right back. [ ] trace: in a small victory for religious freedom, los angeles county has graded a christian lifeguard a partial exemption from flying a progress pride of flag in his workspace. let s bring in captain jeffrey little and his attorney, special counsel paul jonna. a thank you both were coming on. captain to you first, you were granted an exemption and then they revoked it and they ve given it back to you, you have to be thinking you don t trust these people? absolutely. this process all began last year, and i requested an exemption to not have to fly the pride flag and be responsible for supervising. trace: what you tell them, digitally listened this is the way i believe, what was your reasoning? i m a christian, and being a christian i want to honor god and will honor the bible and doing this action and endorsement, religious convictions i have, bringing this in the workplace. trace: paul jonna to you now, you don t have to abandon your phrase because you re working a job, right? soon obsolete not, the first amendment protects employees in the situation, a government employer like the county must accompany accommodate religious as it has birdiemac this is somebody without religious objection fly the flag but instead they are doubling down on a position in there forcing us to litigate of this issue. trace: part of the problem is, that you are, you don t have to raise a flag but he still have to tell some deals to do that. that is not a true remedy? correct, having to compel a subordinate and having to supervise the operation of that part like being raised, to me that does not honor god and it is really living a lie, continuing to do that. trace: i know this has been said to you many times but the whole idea of people saying while, it has nothing to do with you not wanting to rescue somebody who is gay. it has zero to do with that at all, and that s not even part of the case be when it s a complete diversion, i have been doing this for 22 years and had excellent feedback and hundreds of people saying, my job is to protect the public. and i will continue to do that for the rest of my career. trace: why do we have to legally force people to adopt somebody else s celebration which is against their faith? i don t get the reason for that. of the u.s. supreme court has held that a public school cannot require students to salute the american flag, government employees cannot require employers to salute the making of like what the county of los angeles is choosing to dictate its employees have to raise a progress part of flag which they owned document say promotes messages about his beard and magic, it s very controversial thing. and forcing religious man, a man of faith to do this is unconstitutional. trace: what you think about this, when they revoked it, did you think what are you doing? and how do you think this battle is going to go on for a while, or is it something you think could be fixed quick? it s a simple fix, it s a simple ask. but it seems as though my employer has not shown good faith and honoring the beliefs of people with faith. trace: what do you say? are you confident that you are going to go to the outcome you are fighting for? our small team has had nonconsecutive ones against the state of california, get a longer fight with the county in the past which resulted in them paying attorney fees marianne rafferty they dig their heels and co. push the envelope as far as they can, ultimately they lose these cases and were quite confident they will hereto. trace: captain, paul jonna, thank you for coming in. best of luck to you. i would rather watch grass grow, i would rather watch paint dry, i would rather watch it dirt be moved around because caitlin clark is on the team. you people, whoever did this, honestly, take your brain, put it in a museum and is studied for how dumb you are. trace: founder of sports bay, he is not the only one with a heck of a lot disabled of the decision to keep caitlin clark off of the woman s olympic basketball team roster. what do you think? was it a sound judgement or a complete an otter s now? let us know on x. and instagram, we will read your responses, @tracegallagher, coming up in the the nightcap . 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[thunder crackling] welcome to violent earth. i m liev schreiber. scientists say wildfires are more frequent and burning bigger. in the past, a 50,000 or 60,000 acre fire was considered big. these days, firefighters are often dealing with fires well above 100,000 acres. according to government statistics, during the 1990s, an average of 3 million acres a year burned in the united states. since 2000, that number has more than doubled. in 2020 alone, over 10 million acres were consumed. the experts say 85% to 90% of wildfires are caused by human activity. tonight, violent earth takes a look at this roaring force of nature, starting with the mega fire that burned through paradise, california, in 2018. [police radio chatter] kory honea: the camp fire was the deadliest and most destructive fire in california s history. [shouting] john messina: it was almost 200 days since we had received any rainfall in that particular area. the wind was very dry and blowing in gusts of 70 miles an hour. kory honea: the town of paradise at the time of the camp fire was about 26,000 people. alexander maranghides: a town built in the forest. there was a lot of vegetation, topography, wind, drought. all these things contributed to make this event unfold very rapidly. police officer: go double lanes! go double lanes! and very catastrophically. kory honea: the fire was caused by a downed electrical transmission line. camp creek road was the nearest named road to the ignition. and that s why this is the camp fire. tamra fisher: oh, this is horrible. oh, my gosh. oh, my gosh. these poor people. i ve lived in paradise since 1979. i prepared for years for this exact moment. i knew fire was was bad. i ve always respected it. tamra is my little sister. she s raw, and she s funny. this, too, could be you. tamra was not as concerned about the wildfires as i was. and that morning, i got out of there pretty fast. tamra texted me and asked me what was happening. and i said, get out, t. get out. paradise is going to burn down. but possibly, the cell towers were starting to burn in that area. i don t believe she got my text. tamra fisher: can we please get out of here? larry laczko: tamra had her three dogs in the car with her. tamra fisher: it s 9 o clock in the morning. larry laczko: she was recording the events on her cell phone. tamra fisher: i m really scared. and i don t got that much gas! she was stressed that she was not making progress getting away from the fire. tamra fisher: come on! just go! i m so scared! [honking horn] todd abel: these fires, it s very, very intense heat. ignite a tree without flame touching it. all at once, the tree lights up sort of like a roman candle. paul hessburg: and when a wildfire is really moving fast, it can burn five to 10 football fields in a second. it s millions of hot embers that can find so many places to ignite a fire. sometimes the winds are so strong that they are tossed up to five miles. brad elder: the drier it is outside, the probability of that ember is going to stay lit and the fuel that it lands in is approaching 100%. [police radio chatter] paul hessburg: paradise, california, burned from an ember attack from a plume miles away from paradise. kory honea: this is, like, 9 o clock in the morning, and it s pitch black. given the smoke, it almost appeared as though it was the middle of the night and it was snowing. ash and embers began to rain down. john messina: the fire was moving at a football field per second. and the way it did that, of course, was by jumping ahead and starting these fires. they would immediately take hold and rapidly grow into a 100-acre, 200-acre spot fire. that was happening all through town. alexander maranghides: that resulted in the town starting to burn all at once. 30,000 people were trying to be evacuated while being overran by fire. police officer: go forward and turn around. turn around and go north. turn around and go north. [bleep] this is bad. larry laczko: a firefighter told tamra to follow him down pearson road. cindy christensen: tamra was behind them. but the traffic stopped. tamra fisher: no! [honking horn] larry laczko: everything around her was burning. tamra fisher: look at that. cars on the side burning. and nobody was moving. tamra fisher: go! it s so hot. todd abel: these fires, they can be well over 2,000 degrees. they melt metal. they melt cars. and you can hear her dogs panting in the back. [dogs whimpering] tamra fisher: ugh! and her despair. tamra fisher: what did i do? come on! paul hessburg: the increase in wildfires in the current 21st century is exponential. california is seeing its worst year ever for wildfires. canada in general right now for this fire season. 33.8 million acres have already burned. brad elder: and we generally think of fire as bad because most wildfires are dangerous. mark finney: but it s very important to try to understand really the essential role that fire has in our ecosystems and the beneficial role. steve pyne: fire is not some kind of alien visitation on the landscape. fire has been on earth as long as plants have been on land. we can go back 420 million years and find fossil charcoal. these landscapes have, in a sense, co-evolved with fire. kristen honig: fires are good for the planet. they have lots of roles in ecosystem health. brad elder: there s so many different plants and animals that respond positively to fires. paul hessburg: the varied habitats come from the byproducts of a wildfire. the forests of western north america, including the western united states, need fire. they evolved with fire. what is new is the frequency of very large fires is increasing. steve pyne: it kills people, threatens properties and towns. they re essentially uncontrollable at scale. paul hessburg: wildfires are burning at the rate of 7 to 10 million acres of the us every year. this is unprecedented. it s getting worse. paul hessburg: we expect double to triple the amount of area burned between now and 2050. well, how did that happen? [music playing] [siren blaring, police radio chatter] karen davis: i was a registered nurse at feather river hospital in paradise. we received a code black get patients out now. and the flames were unbelievable that came up the canyon. my best friend, nichole, was also a nurse at feather river hospital. we worked together. karen davis: ambulances were not able to get to us. patients had to be put in employee vehicles. dispatcher: 10-4, chief, go ahead. karen davis: after we got all the patients in vehicles, nichole and i left following each other. steve pyne: 1910 was really the founding year for the american way of firefighting. reporter: the big blowup. a wild surging firestorm started near elk city, idaho. paul hessburg: the 1910 big burn. it burned 3 million acres across three states, killed 87 people, mostly firefighters. and our awareness and our whole consciousness about fire pivoted in that moment. reporter: this is a picture of tragedy, a tragedy that happens year after year in our great american forest areas fire. fire became public enemy number one. and wildfires were to be put out at all cost. steve pyne: and at that point, we almost militarized firefighting. kyle dickman: we were really good at it. firefighters could put out 99% of fires before they grew bigger than an acre. paul hessburg: and from about 1935 to about 1985, you see not much fire burning. and it made our fire suppression look great. steve pyne: and that was a very poor judgment. well, they completely misjudged the character of the overall fire scene. paul hessburg: what s happened since the exclusion of fire is forests have gotten denser. the forests of today look nothing like they did in the 1930s. there are 10 times even more trees than that on the landscape of the historical condition. and they will burn bigger and they ll burn hotter than they burned historically. and what we didn t know in those days and we ve learned later through research is, fire is medicine on the landscape, and it s how we can live safely. and here s why that s so critical. it was the frequency of the small- and medium-sized fires that blocked the flow of very large fires. you might burn out a patch in a forest, but the bulk of the force is still standing there. mark finney: fires that just burn underneath the trees, maybe some grass, maybe some downed logs. paul hessburg: so there s power in the patchwork to regulate how big and how severe the fires got. so fires would be rarely very large. so after a century and a half without fire, fuels have built up over many large areas to powder keg conditions. but the worst part of it is, we re actually building homes in the middle of this mess. and so when we get a large fire, houses and forests literally go up in smoke. and as the climate continues to turn up the heat and dry out the landscape, what we see after 85 is that area burned increases exponentially. and it continues to increase today. fires like paradise, the camp fire. alexander maranghides: the town of paradise had not seen any fire history in the past 100-plus years. paul hessburg: they re setting new records for area burned and structures that are burned. and it s because the fires are literally uncontrollable. police officer: i copy that. [honking horn] tamra fisher: i m scared! cindy christensen: tamra was beating on her horn, screaming to go, go, go, go. tamra fisher: come on! cindy christensen: nothing was moving. larry laczko: tamra was driving a yellow volkswagen beetle. somebody shot a video from behind her showing her out of her volkswagen. that firestorm came roaring through. it was unreal. her car was on fire. she was screaming for help. tamra fisher: help! cindy christensen: tamra was on pearson road. alexander maranghides: pearson is one of the top five worst situations in all of camp fire. the fire overtakes evacuating, gridlocked traffic. everything is on fire all at once. vehicles start catching on fire. 40 abandoned vehicles in that 6/10 of a mile. and this created a very, very dangerous situation. nichole s car was trapped with me right on pearson road. nichole jolly: that tree could come down on me at any moment. this is ridiculous. and i m stuck. [bleep] tamra fisher: oh, my god. it s everywhere. in tamra s video, you could see my white truck, and you can see nichole s silver sedan. people just sitting there. nothing was moving. tamra fisher: this is a [bleep] nightmare. just come on! oh, my god. karen davis: all of a sudden, i could feel my truck drop, which meant my tires were burning. and right in the middle of that, i heard a knock on the window. nichole got out of her car because her car had caught on fire. she tried to open the door, but the handles were gone from the outside. they had melted away. so she ran off. i had no idea where she was. [music playing] craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office. [ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg s moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don s paying so much for at&t, he s been waiting to update his equipment! there s a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don t have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. s greater than 100,000 acres, we term it a mega fire. some of the biggest fires are a million acres or more. big, hot fires create their own weather. suddenly, this really white cloud start developing. it was being made by the moisture being driven off by the fire down below. and in the most extreme cases, they have lightning, and they have rain. they have very strong downdrafts that can create very, very strong winds right down at the surface. paul hessburg: sometimes wildfires are so loud, associated with the wind and weather that the fire is creating, it sounds like a 747 flying overhead. tornadoes, they call them firenadoes, will happen as a consequence of these phenomenal surface wind speeds. woman: oh, my they move incredibly fast when they get up and go. and they re really quite horrific. mark finney: wildfires ignite from lots of different sources. steve pyne: before humans were around, this was almost always lightning. volcanic activity can start fires. that s a natural ignition, we often call it. steve pyne: humans probably account for 90% of the ignition in the united states and probably around the world. reporter: investigators say a wildfire near yosemite national park was started by an unattended campfire. reporter: power lines were blamed for starting 10 fires this year. violent and explosive wildfires in hawaii fueled by strong winds from a hurricane 800 miles away. reporter: maui locals have never seen anything like the firestorm that obliterated lahaina. winds of up to 80 miles an hour. erin burnett: tee dang was on vacation with her family. the flames so dangerously close that they were forced to jump into the ocean to save themselves. tee dang: it was just like a hot oven fire flaming, blowing at us. and then we started just huddling in and trying to keep our family tight so we won t get burned from the fire and then get washed away from the water. reporter: the lahaina fire is now the deadliest fire in the us in more than a century. reporter: this will rank as one of the worst disasters in american history. it s as bad as paradise, california, the deadliest fire from a few years back. larry laczko: that morning, when i turned on pearson road, i hit gridlock. we were just inching along when i came upon tamra and her burning vw beetle on the side of the road. she just opened her door. i heard tamra say, i need help putting out this fire. i told her, you need to get into my truck. but she seemed like she wanted to stay with the car. i know she had some treasured belongings. but she had to get away from that. tamra fisher: i m sorry, lucky. i m crying. karen davis: nichole got out of her car because her car was on fire. she knocked on my window. and she tried to open the door, but couldn t. so she ran off. i was dazed from the smoke. and i didn t know where she went. everybody was in a panic, just trying to survive. larry laczko: i did witness people running to a cal fire fire engine. we couldn t believe that they were outside. the temperature inside the engine at that point was probably around 150, 160 degrees. at some point, the outside of the engine probably took temperatures of 600 degrees. we started pulling people into the engine, as many as we could. but we just didn t have any more room. larry laczko: we were still trying to inch along. tamra fisher: [indistinct speech] [crying] and suddenly, out of the darkness came the headlights of a bulldozer driven by a cal fire hero, pushing burning vehicles off the side of the road beside us. john jessen: joe kennedy, he was able to get those cars out of our way and be able to open up that road and give us a means of escape. alexander maranghides: the dozer comes in, helps clear the area, and enables the first responders to escort the convoy out of harm s way. karen davis: that eventually saved our lives. i did wonder what happened to nichole. i remember it was so hot, my eyes and my throat were burning. i ran up the road. and i m closing my eyes because you can t see anything. and i touched the back of this fire engine. the firefighters looked at me, and they were like, oh my gosh. karen davis: and i later learned nichole was one of the people that ran into the fire engine. nichole jolly: the firefighters absolutely saved our lives. i waited all day for tamra. i didn t hear anything. i was so scared. if i wouldn t have had my dogs, i probably would have ran on foot. having larry open the truck door and tell me to get in and then said, bring the dogs, it was like a knight in shining armor. i got a text from somebody i didn t know, this gentleman, larry. i found out that he had saved tamra. i feel that i was in the wrong place at the right time. tamra fisher: oh, my god. karen davis: and when we finally did get through, it was like an apocalypse. tamra fisher: oh, my gosh. it s like you re seeing this destruction that you only see in, like, movies. it s gone. larry laczko: it s gone. tamra fisher: it s gone. look, that house is gone. larry laczko: yep. tamra fisher: and that house is gone. and to see that devastation, it was surreal. yeah, my sister s just right up here. it s all gone. cindy christensen: our neighborhood, our house, there was nothing left. nothing. it was decimated. we lost everything, except for the clothes on our backs. nichole holly: the flames engulfed the hospital, and the roof collapsed. kory honea: it consumed 18,000 structures. 15,000 of those structures were homes, places where people lived. karen davis: and i learned. the next road up from where we were trapped, that s where five people died trying to run from the flames. 85 people lost their lives. there s nowhere you can go in butte county where you don t run into somebody who was burned out of their home or knew somebody who perished in the fire. todd abel: all over the western united states, these fires are more intense. wildland firefighters are a big part of trying to mitigate these natural disasters. hotshots are sort of a breed of their own. kyle dickman: hotshot firefighters are crews of 20 people, men and women. desiree steed: they fight fire from the frontlines. kyle dickman: their job is to go anywhere in the country where there s a bad fire. and they ll spend as long as two weeks or three weeks on a single fire. i m a former granite mountain hotshot. it s really not a job. it s a lifestyle and career. kyle dickman: the granite mountain hotshots were a hotshot crew. came from the city of prescott, arizona. eric marsh was the superintendent of the granite mountain hotshots. a very meticulous man, very intelligent. and then there was jesse steed. desiree steed: jesse was the captain. so he was second in command. prior to that, he was also in the marine corps. he was tough, 6 4 and 220 pounds. always put his family first, his kids first. brendan mcdonough: jesse was a mentor, and he was a dad that i so desperately wanted to be like. desiree steed: he could handle all kinds of excruciating, backbreaking labor and work and actually enjoyed it. [music playing] todd abel: in arizona, june is usually kind of that month where everybody s hair on the back of your neck stands up, and we start getting higher temperatures. the relative humidity drops. the fuel moistures drop. kyle dickman: it was just perfectly primed for extreme fire behavior. todd abel: we start getting monsoon buildups, which sometimes throw out the dry lightning, which starts fires. the morning of june 30, the hotshots on the crew were woken up by a phone call. we got to go. we got a fire in yarnell. a lightning strike from a couple of days ago started multiple fires. it was about 500 acres. the reason this fire was concerning was that it was on a ridgeline above a town. todd abel: there was peeples valley to the north. and then to the south-southeast was the town of yarnell. i remember getting out of the buggy, and jesse was like, hey, grab grab extra water today. it s going to be hot. todd abel: there s different strategies in wildland firefighting. we use fixed-wing airplanes and rotor-wing helicopters to help reduce the intensity of the fire. then we can get our men and women on there, our boots on the ground i call it, to actually finish putting it out. [chainsaw buzzing] john jessen: most effective, especially when fires are larger and stuff, is removing the fuels, creating control lines. kyle dickman: what they re doing is they re taking away what the fire eats so the fire can t burn it. once you get to the edge of the fire, that s when the work really starts. yeah! ow! it s not just the backbreaking work of digging. digging, digging, digging for days on end. kyle dickman: they use chainsaws a lot. brendan mcdonough: you re removing everything for miles on end. so if that tree is 60 feet tall, you re cutting that entire tree down. it s not for the faint of heart. sometimes we do use fire to fight fires. kristen honig: using drip torches to burn the fuel in a controlled fashion so that by the time the main flaming front got there, there would be no more fuel for it to burn. and that would stop the fire s advance. todd abel: a lot of times, we ll do a lot of those firing operations at night, where we have better control over what that looks like. kyle dickman: so june 30, the yarnell hill fire is just ripping to the north. and the priority is to stop this fire on the northern edge. and we start hiking in. we were on the fire s edge. the flaming front was two to three miles long. probably had 20-, 30-foot flame lengths. kyle dickman: jesse steed asked brendan donut mcdonough to act as a lookout down in the valley below the ridgeline. brendan mcdonough: and i hiked into my lookout spot closer towards the active edge of the fire, and i m at a lower elevation. [music playing] i got the word from our fire behavior analyst that called and said, hey, we got some thunderstorm developments developing north of us. kyle dickman: thunderstorms are extremely dangerous to firefighters because they create erratic winds. and erratic winds create erratic fire behavior. todd abel: that s what changes our environment. and that s what causes our injuries and some of our fatalities. kyle dickman: it was a warning to the hotshots that by the afternoon of june 30, they could be dealing with a fire that was completely different than it was behaving in the morning. [music playing] kyle dickman: two things that firefighters pay the most attention to, fuels and weather. paul hessburg: weather is one of the ficklest parts of a wildfire. mark finney: aside from drought or dry conditions, the wind is probably responsible for the greatest variation. another aspect of the wind that makes wildfires dangerous is the shifting direction. the wind can be coming out of the west, for example, and suddenly shift to coming out of the north. todd abel: so thunderstorm developments, it ll push wind multiple directions. [lightning crackling] brad elder: we ve all been standing outside watching a front hit and suddenly get hit by this wall of wind. kyle dickman: what happens with these thunderstorms, they start to rain. brad elder: and that water is now falling, and it s pulling air with it. so we have this rush of air coming down, slamming into the ground and moving out in all directions. wherever that cell is, it could push winds from the north to the south, the south to the north. brad elder: if you don t know that s going to happen or know how it s going to shift, that s a real dangerous situation. [music playing] kyle dickman: june 30, the yarnell hill fire is just ripping to the north. kyle dickman: and the hotshots were down on the southern edge, what s called the heel of the fire, which is essentially where it started. they were just supposed to start building line up around the fire to make sure that it didn t escape. and late in the afternoon thunderstorm hit probably around, i don t know, 4:15-ish. kyle dickman: all this cool air comes rushing down, and it races out across this desert. and it hits the fire. and suddenly, the fire pivots and turns direction. it had been running north. but it turned and ran south. brendan mcdonough: that s pretty uncommon to see a fire completely shift 180 degrees. kyle dickman: and it began running straight at brendan donut mcdonough, the lookout. brendan mcdonough: captain jesse reached out because he could see where i was from up top. and so he called over the radio and said, hey, donut, i think it s about time for you to get out of there, man. move fast. and i did that. got a ride down. and so now this fire has turned around. my brother is on the complete south end, and i am on the north end, opposite ends of this fire. so the granite mountain hotshots were in what s called the blacks. the best safety zone, where fire s already burnt. kyle dickman: all they were doing is watching the burn. they can just look down and see this ominous scene. there s these black smoke. it s dark. and it s just all the colors of hell sweeping down this valley toward this town. [music playing] it became very clear that the town of yarnell was imminently threatened by this fire. we started evacuating yarnell. man: we just pulled out. yarnell is blowing up. kyle dickman: the granite mountain hotshots, they weren t doing a whole lot. they couldn t do a whole lot. so the hotshots decided to leave the safety of the black and move back toward the town of yarnell, where presumably they could do something to help the people that were soon to be threatened by the fire. and they re essentially climbing down these rocky cliffs into that canyon. and when they do, they know they re going to lose sight of the fire. they can t see the fire. and suddenly, the fire turns the corner of this ridge, pivoting and sweeping in front of them, fanning out into this flaming front. at exactly that moment, they realized that they are out of options. todd abel: it was moving so quick that there was no way that a human could outrun that fire. kyle dickman: suddenly, they come over the radio. and what he s saying is, we need help, and we need help right now. they re in trouble. brendan mcdonough: and i remember them trying to call in water. and that s when it became very frantic. kyle dickman: at that moment, nobody really knew where granite mountain was. todd abel: the last conversation i had with them was granite mountain was in the black and that they were in a good spot. no one knew that they had moved to the south end like that. they are forced to do the only thing they can do in that instance, to deploy their fire shelters. fire shelters are just these small, thin blankets that reflect heat. that s all they are. they are tents that you pitch up and you climb into. if you re deploying your fire shelter, it s a last-case scenario. that fire crew s in trouble. they re in trouble. a lot of things going through my brain at the same time of my heart being in my stomach. brendan mcdonough: the helicopter s trying to find them. and it s the smoke is just so thick. bravo 33: operations bravo 33. [music playing] kyle dickman: you have 19 firefighters standing in front of a flaming front. every firefighter on that fire, their jaws dropped and i m sure their hearts broke because they now knew that their brothers, their colleagues were in very real danger. todd abel: we launched some helicopters to try to find them. i absolutely had all kinds of hope that the crew was going to be fine. and i m just waiting on the radio and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. and i hear there s 19 confirmed. there were 19 dead bodies in the canyon. i can feel it in my heart right now and in my stomach right now talking about it. it was devastating. absolutely devastating. i remember just sobbing. every negative emotion that could be felt, i just felt in that moment. i remember walking in, and they re just everybody was crying. and we were told that they were all gone. kyle dickman: and this was the worst fire tragedy that had happened in a generation. todd abel: they were fathers, sons, brothers, husbands, the whole nine yards. they were good people. they enjoyed wildland firefighting. they had the passion for it. the fact that i can tell my children that their father died a hero has made a huge difference. they can be proud of him for everything that he did. kyle dickman: the nation was captivated by it for months. and they ended up making a hollywood movie no matter what you hear we ve got several aircraft coming to you. no matter what s going on we can t go back up there. stay together tell me when you hear the aircraft, ok? and look out for each other because you re a family. no one could be prouder of his boys than i am of you guys. and the fires that we fought when when we were young are nothing like the fires of today. they re really, really dangerous. and they re very, very threatening. todd abel: longer duration, definitely larger fires. how do you manage something like that? paul hessburg: in the western united states, the fire season is 40 to 80 days longer. in california, the fire season is nearly year-round today. steve pyne: the climate is is morphing in ways that enhance fire. it s acting as a performance enhancer. smoke has been carrying the fire problem to areas that otherwise are immune to it. reporter: smoke from those fires traveling more than 500 miles. it s philadelphia, boston, new york city, all the way to the nation s capital. paul hessburg: the air quality index just ballooned in many of these metropolitan areas. more people are being challenged by smoke-related injury to human health. reporter: wildfire smoke contains particulate matter, or pm 2.5. among the tiniest and most dangerous pollutants, it s able to infiltrate the lungs and enter the bloodstream and has been linked to conditions like asthma and heart disease. the need to do something is urgent. we have a lot of tools in the toolbox. one of them is using prescribed burning. prescribed burning is intentional burning to invite the right kind of wildfire back to the forest. there s a tremendous amount of science and skill that go into this prescribed burning. 99.8% of them stay within the line. it produces a tenth of the smoke. so the numbers are really good. steve pyne: some of these areas, we can go in, we can thin. not log, thin out. it s a kind of woody weeding. but it s the fire that matters most. if you do the thinning but don t do the fire, you re not really solving the problem. burning where you ve got residents or small communities embedded in the landscape around, very difficult. but almost certainly, they are going to burn. and if we don t do it in some way, then they re going to burn probably in the worst possible way. kyle dickman: it s like, you can pick your poison, right? like, you re either going to have prescribed fires, or you re going to have more big wildfires. [music playing] steve pyne: well, all this requires a political and social mechanism for us to come together and argue over differences in values, what we want public lands to be, how we want to do it. and we re facing the point where we simply cannot pretend that we can control all these fires as we would wish. [music playing] kyle dickman: we can only do so much to insulate ourselves from those tragedies. like, the way that the system works and the environment is changing, like, these are just they are realities. desiree steed: i want jesse to be remembered for his strength of character. he had a lot of integrity. he was a great dad, a great husband. brendan mcdonough: everyone s journey after the tragedy has been different. there s a lot to learn from it. for me, it s been giving back and, you know, paying it forward and trying to help people understand their sacrifice. karen davis, the nurse who survived the entrapment in the mega fire in paradise, california, says she lost everything in the inferno. battling the trauma from the flames, she decided to move to las vegas to be closer to her daughter and rebuild her shattered life. once there, karen continued her career in health care. she also decided to become a member of the henderson, nevada, community emergency response team, aiming to help others in future emergencies. a testament to her inner strength and resiliency. for more information on what you can do in a wildfire and how to combat the growing climate crisis, please go to cnn.com/violentearth. i m liev schreiber. thanks for watching.
land. what has he done to deserve to be president? is he inspiring, does he give great statesmanlike speeches, is he securing our country from enemies without and within. izzy building up her institutions, is he encouraging young people to embrace our country and learn our history and our principles? is he bringing peace and prosperity to the country? is he doing things about crime in the inner city that are effective, what the hell has this guy done throughout 50 years that has been positive for this country, nothing. nothing. i will see you next time on life liberty and levin . . trey: good evening and thank you for joining us i am trey gowdy. it is sunday night in america . revenge is the best served cold but should always be on the menu? we can have the stuff go one. when biden goes out, everyone says bye-bye and then he gets indicted two days later and they go after him, the country does not want that. they didn t want it with hilary clinton either. i want to bring the country together. trey: some republicans and right-wing commentators are openly calling for retribution. for what alvin bragg and fani willis and other prosecutors have done, some are encouraging republican prosecutors, present and future to target democrats with an eye for night. to be sure one spiritual leader noted an eye for night leaves the whole world blind but it also ruined your justice system which ruined your country, simply turning the other cheek the high road does not serve as a deterrent, what is the right response when you been wrong the left and the media would understand the origins of the anger. it s very hard to become president, less than 50 people have ever done it in to have a cloud placed over your presidency because law enforcement and intelligence officials did not like you and manufactured a russian influence fantasy by the dnc that is anger and retribution provoking, then trump was impeached twice which leads some to want impeachment for the current president in retaliation and trump was indicted before the grand jury including the case in new york that never would ve been brought against anyone else the media could have a law find effective what company. instead it exacerbates the problem rather than shun the likes of peter strzok or indy mccabe, john brennan, andrew wiseman and jim comey, the media hires them and gives them a platform in a paycheck for their bias and laughs at their double standard. if you look at the white house now it s hard to imagine two fbi agents, how did that happen. i sent them all. something i probably wouldn t have done or gotten away with in a more organized investigation more organized administration, the fbi wanted to send agents into the white house itself to interview the senior official and you would work through the white house counsel and discussions and approvals and who would be there and i thought it s early enough let s send a couple of guys over. trey: laughter at disparate treatment and treating republicans differently from democrats. laughter at unfairness. and you wonder why the victimize no longer value fairness as a virtue. here we are tempted to treat others as they have treated us rather than as we should ve been treated in the first instance. and yet we know fairness is an everlasting virtue, we know it stood the test of time in the cornerstone of any justice system worth having, what is the answer do we fight fire with fire or do we fight fire with water? righteous water, virtuous water as the prophet said letting justice roll down like water and righteousness like an ever flowing stream. so is it and i for nye or turn the other cheek or something in between? joining us guy benson fox news contributor host of the guy benson show and democrat strategist kevin walling. how should one fight real or perceived injustice by engaging in the same behavior and i for an eye or the prophet who wanted justice and righteousness to be an ever flowing stream what do you think retribution or righteousness. i would like to see the flames of unfairness extinguished with water i struggle to envision what that looks like under the scenario because time and time again donald trump we mentioned the russian collusion helps in 2016 and 2017 a cloud over his whole presidency they thought they had a beat that time, by 2020 they manufacturing the russian disinformation about hunter biden s laptop as you accurately described in new york for a lot of trump supporters that feels like one, 23 strikes in diffuse able to win the next election in spite of all of that i think there will be a concern on the left that there might be vengeance and a lot of people in the right saying the vengeance is earned for necessary. trey: kevin, the reason i like having you on i think you re a fair person even on issues upon which we disagree. i m not asking you if you agree with the anger i am asking if you understand it. i try to understand why the other side is angry even if i do not. i don t want to live in a country where this group is targeting back a real based on their political ideology, how do we get out of a real or perceived i for nye situation which we may be headed towards. i really appreciate what you just said. i fully understand the anger in the frustration. i don t think democrats in 2016 understood the anger and frustration not necessarily about donald trump of the grievances but about their stay in life, wages were up they were stuck in the same jobs for four years, the populist rage is donald trump selection in 2016. i double back to what you said an offset that there were four different grand jury s that have indicted t the president among these charges, we have got to somehow restore hope and faith in the judicial system of this country it was a injury of donald trump s appears that indicted him in each of in new york a jury of donald trump many of them have trump social and follow the president and support the president who ultimately decided against former president trump. i think what you seen from president biden with his son on trial this past week at least in his remarks from normandy with david mir when he sat down with him that he will abide with his ruling even if the jury votes to convict his own son and sentence his own son. and that he won t pardon his own son if it comes to that. i think that hopefully is the direction we can all agree on and work together to restore hope in the judicial system. trey: i actually don t think of the hunter biden case, i was a gun prosecutor, i would put him in drug court to be candid with everyone that puts me in the minority but i would put him in drug court, is hilary clinton that i think back on, kevin is correct the grand jury has indicted her but it s tough to get an indictment when you don t seek one. the way she was investigated is different from the way that donald trump or other republicans. i ve never heard of having witnesses sit in while you were interviewing, jim comey drafted his memo exonerating her months before he even talked to her. i worry about our justice sy system. guy, let me ask you a political question. i don t forget to solve the justice questions. we have three events the sentencing of donald trump, the debates coming up and his selection as a vice presidential running mate, which of the three do you think has the best chance of moving the needle polit politically. i m going to say the debates and i m not even sure about that, the obvious answer one would think under normal times or circumstances would be the felony convictions of one of the two candidates running for president that would be the bombshell that could change this race but i know it s early and i want to see the polling averages two or three weeks from now but the early indications including high profile high quality pulling suggest that that really hasn t moved the needle in terms of public opinion against donald trump. i m getting go with the debates but we will see this feels locked in stone to some extent in a house for months. trey: kevin, i owe you a question i ll pay you back some point in the future but i got way to caught up in the prophet amos, i apologize for that. you are taking us to church. my mom will be happy that i know the names of video the prophets. thank you both for joining us on a sunday nights. we will see you next time. both sides think the academy is a winning issue for them but they both cannot be right can they? kevin o leary is us thse ae anss next on sunday night in america . because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. so for faster pain relief, advil the pain away. when we say it ll be on time, they expect it to be on time. turn shipping to your advantage. keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. thanks brandon. with usps ground advantage®. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i d buy stilts. being so tall definitely has 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trey: the question is why, is it a lack of inventory or has inflation hit the housing market, more dramatically than other sectors. by the way how can both sides run on the academy this nov november. republican side inflation, democrats say the stock market hit record highs, who is right at trump tax cut are set to expire, the marginal wage of 37%, that does not include state, local or sales taxes. god asked for tempers and how much is enough or government. here to make sense fame to investor in o leary ventures chairman mr. kevin o leary, thank you for joining us, let s start with housing, what do you think is driving up the cost of buying a home. if you can scrape together the money or get a loan is real estate in your judgment a good investment? real estate has always been a good investment for 200 years and it s proven up over history. in the rapid increase in of the interest rates in the anticipation was has not come down only 12 months ago you are thinking seven great cuts in which not have appeared because inflation remains rampant and north of 3% housing is adjusted on simple equations to interest rates. and they are higher than they were in the market so seven, eight, 9% depending on your economic status and that s a lot more than 3.5% four years ago. that is why housing cost have been up 30 or 40%, it s really hard to see the change, i m not sure that s going to change at all then we had the weird outcome of the pandemic where people moved away from metropolitan areas into areas where they wanted to live in better schools and everything else in it went way through the roof. it s a new america i digitized american housing is more expensive. trey: speaking of america we have an election coming up, early voting starts pretty soon, it s rare to see both parties running on the same issue but democrats site jobs numbers in the market hitting 40000 and republican side inflation in the general sense that all is not well in the market may be on a sugar high, which side has the more compelling argument when it comes to the economy. it doesn t matter who you are or what party you re associated with when you re the in cabinet in dealing with inflation. inflation is a simple equation, there are three aspects that really hurt you at the voting poll in its energy on transportation, that is oil and gas, is housing that we just talked about, then it is food in minutes chicken, fish, steak does have not gone down in value since the pandemic, there up 38% and your cna change the lives of fast food restaurants and everything else in those three actions are not good for the incumbent. inflation is never good. it having been repaired over the next four and half months i don t think so. we have inflation that is north of 30% when it has to be to, that is their mandate, it s really sticky in food prices that s where people go to the grocery store every two days and say this piece of chicken is worth 40% more than it was 36 months ago not hurts of the p poll. trey: for future president were to call you and say we can never tax our way out of this deficit there has to be a reduction in spending but neither side wants to talk about that. what is the right kind of mix of more revenue versus spending cuts or should we abandon the notion of a balanced budget, it s a fools goal to have that we can have a balanced budget in mind in your lifetime. that s a great question, here s the answer, 1974 in 1975 were getting given example to countries that solve this problem, canada was one in norway was the other, they did a different path, that massive energy reserves in there is a reserve in america with and warmer one of the largest oils on earth untapped, unused. what the canadians did they put a royalty on it same time as norwegians but those norwegians put into the law the all the royalties they charge the lawyer hundred royalty per barrel, every dollar of that had to be spent reducing deficit the canadians did not do that they let the government spend any way that they wanted to and governments waste money and they sponsor their wealth. if you look today kid of the verses norway it s one of the highest in-depth per capita nations on earth, norway are winners, and war is what s going to solve this problem. trey: mr. kevin o leary taken a ce conch class i wish i would ve had you on college i would had a better portfolio than what i have right now, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. up next another high-profile criminal trial, guns, drugs, girlfriends and hunter biden. all that next on sunday night in america . for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. a test or approve a medication. we didn t have to worry about any of those things thanks to the donations. and our family is forever grateful because it s completely changed our lives. we re here with chris counahan of our local leaffilter. so chris, tell us how leaffilter is different from every other gutter 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right party in france, germany austria and belgium making big gains in the parliamentary election that projected wrench president and manual macron to dissolve his country s parliament and call for snap elections. and belgium s prime minister resigned after his party suffered defeat, millions of europeans have been casting ballots this week and what of the world s biggest democratics elections, the flow comes at a pivotal moment that you which is grappling with a range of issues from wars in ukraine and gaza and immigration and climate change. closing arguments expected, hunter biden federal gun trial defense is trying to decide if they will call the president son to testify when the trial resumes tomorrow, prosecutors rested their case friday but it could call a rebuttal witness if hunter takes the stand. i m ashley strohmier, back to you in sunday night in america . trey: welcome back to sunday night in america . hunter biden is on trial for two things, lying on an application to buy a gun and possessing the gun while being an addict or unlawful user of the controlled substance. lying and buying cases are common, so to our cases against convicted felons. how many people have been prosecuted under this unlawful user or addict section of the gun law. for that matter how many people are being prosecuted for being mentally ill and possessing a gun or being illegally possessing account, i m all for enforcing the law, i prosecuted federal gun cases for six years. but i m also for fairness, donald trump was prosecuted on a manufactured felony because he was donald trump. the evidence is overwhelming that hunter biden was an addict and a user of cocaine base when he applied to purchase the gun, it s not a hard case for prosecutors to win. would drug court be a better outcome than prison, joining us two of my favorite legal minds constitutional lawyer mark smith and former u.s. attorney brett tolman. this case has me thinking if hunter biden had gone to a friend were neighbor to buy a gun there would be no federal form to fill out because private sales don t require sfl forms or background checks. two of the charges went to a licensed dealer and not a private person but the possession count would hold regardless because addicts can t possess firearms, is that right? you are right and this is a case, i m not sure in a vacuum that this case gets brought, you have the justice department being shamed into a case of the swirling obligations of what was discovered on the laptop. in the lesser of the evils that it can bring. i think they are refusing to open a legitimate investigation into what the irs whistleblowers are revealing, the hunter biden corruption that included his family and most likely his father all of that was thrown other the rug because they can go forward with this case and they could do exactly what many are saying they are fair and impartial justice system in the lesser of evils to avoid the real work that should ve been done in this case. trey: i m not a second amended absolutist, some of the gop are including candidates that ran for the nomination. i don t think convicted murderers should take fully automatic machine guns and kindergarten classes for some of my former colleagues believe there should be no restrictions on the second amendment, are there constitutional issues with parts of her federal firearms laws including this one being used in the biden case. absolutely considerable constitutional question with a large cloth of the federal gun control laws in the hunter biden case, the question is to what degree do individuals that use illegal drugs allowed to possess firearms, the supreme court is working their way through the case law as you know and right now we case before it that s going to speak to this issue. i think at the end of the day where the supreme court will wind up as to who can be disarmed. if you are established to be a violent threat of physically violent threat to herself or to others you can be disarmed, the question in the hunter biden constitutionally if you are a user of drugs but you do have any indication of physical violence, where on the spectrum does not fall are you a nonviolent felony that won t be disarmed i think ultimately or to a drug trafficker or a violent person who can be disarmed, i think the supreme court will need to figure out users of illegal substances fall on the spectrum we won t know that for a few years, this is a developing case law the supreme court has a lot to do in the good to be doing it for the next several years i guess. trey: i know brett knows this because he prosecuted them cocaine base, per se illegal. but value is also a controlled substance, so is lortab. , what kind of a defense to uc, i sat here and look at the case, no question he is a user no lawful user of cocaine base what is the defense other than jury nullification. this is an important point, in reality it s as close to a strict liability crime as you can get, it s not a difficult case why are they taking it to trial, they feel they can notify the jury, the arguments are going to be to get one or two jurors to appeal to their bias if they have some or their political interest, that is why you see joe biden flying back and going to the courtroom as soon as she can. i think the hope that the counting on somewhat in the jury that will be willing to convict hunter. trey: i want to play a little bit of a sound from the president and get you to react to the other side. as we sit here in normandy, your son hunter is on trial and i know you cannot speak about an ongoing federal prosecution, let me ask you will you accept the jury s outcome, the verdict no matter what it is. you. have you ruled out a pardon for your son. yes. most of us would serve prison sentence for our children, he said he would not pardon his son and i m thinking there is controversial pardons since the beginning of time, why not pardon both of your son and donald trump, make everybody happy or unhappy, he was pretty quick on the no. my wife would want me to hesitate a little bit on that question if it was one of my kids. i think joe biden is going to pardon his son hunter biden but i think there is other reasons why you may want to do that if you joe biden not just the fact that he s your son but if you think about it there has been questioned about joe biden s behavior in the past and some of the alleged business dealings and the like and one can see a scenario where joe biden pardons hunter biden and associates associated with hunter biden in various ways so they don t turn state evidence against joe bi biden, one never knows how to any legal investigation goes but i think joe biden has a reason to pardon hunter biden hunter biden s associates not because of the family relationship other self-interested reasons. trey: who would ve ever guessed when we were sitting in law school that we will be discussing the intersection of law and presidential politics. i m glad 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who will appear openly hostile towards the jewish state, some calling for regime change in israel which is rich since they haven t called for russia, iran or north korea to replace their leaders. , what will benjamin netanyahu say, what should he say, will he do a better job of really undergoing american politics and some democrats have done in ignoring israeli politics. are we closer to his cease-fire? is biden still pressuring israel to withdraw as histology and hostages remain kidnapped, tal heinrich is the spokesperson for the israeli prime minister and she joins us now. welcome, hamas to the south, has bullet to the south and american politicians calling for regime change, challenging times for the nation of israel. these are challenging times, thank you for having me on a matching list, and over a hundred overlooked aspect people tend to forget that this is not just a war between us and hamas iranian proxy in gaza we also have palestinian islamic jihad in gaza and we had constant terror attacks from emerging from the west bank from samaria just a few days ago we had missiles from the red sea targeting her territory with the houthis and other iranian proxy and thank you for mentioning hezbollah. notice this number since the beginning of the war on october 7, we have had more than 17000, 500 missiles combined targeting our territory from both north and south, hezbollah and hamas. we had 61000 residents to the north who are unable to the state for more than eight months to return to their home because of hezbollah over the past week we had to fight fires in the north and for more nine hours explosive drones targeting our communities and injuries and damage and whatnot. the prime minister took a tour of the north with the idea and there was a security assessment a few days ago and he said very clearly, one way or another we will restore security in the north, it is up to hezbollah to decide if it s going to be a diplomatic way or the military way. trey: congress has changed a lot in the time since i ve been there. i don t think prime minister benjamin netanyahu has forgiven he s going to avoid american politics and focus on what he focused on last time, israel is unique only democracy in sc of theocracies and nondemocratic governments. that is my prediction, he will resist the temptation to insert himself into our politics even though democrats do not resist the temptation to insert themselves into israeli politics. i think you re right will find out when the prime minister gets here in late july and he will speak to the american people and the american congress for the overwhelming support that we have been receiving and this is not what you see on tv and what s been highlighted by the media and we get the american people stand by us and you guys hate terrorists and we hate terrorist and were fighting against. evil as president biden called hamas early on when he came to israel to stand by us in the country. the prime minister will speak the truth about this in a very, very war objectives as we defined them on day one of the war to bring all of our stolen people the hostages back home in the hamas terrorist regime as a governing body in the military wing and gaza to make sure the territory i should call it a territory will never pose a threat to us and never ever again, this is not changed since day one of the war, this is time for moral clarity in the prime minister will think the american people and remind everyone that we need america by our side in the moral global leadership. mentioned evil and hamas, there is a cease-fire and a moss is not going to accept israel and accept the jewish state in the region. to me as cease-fire gives them time to regroup and rearm. i will give you the last word on whether or not it is worth pursuing. i think there s something i need to highlight there is a difference between a temporary humanitarian pause in the fight for the release of hostages, something we facilitated back in november and agreed to do again and the notion of a permanent cease-fire that would leave hamas in power, that s not going to happen. trey: thank you tal heinrich, we will see in late july exactly what prime minister benjamin netanyahu says as he addresses a joint session of congress, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. trey: president biden heads to italy for the g7 summit where a full agenda awaits. his cease-fire in the middle east will be discussed even as hamas holds israeli hostages. ukraine defies odd but needs more and better weapons, iran has a new leader in north korea is acting like a petulant child once again. joy did as iowa senator joni ernst who served our country in uniform and now serves on the senate armed services committee, welcome senator it s wonderful to see you again i guess we will start with israel stunning number of american politicians who called for regime change in newsreel even in the midst of war with hamas, what do you make a president biden s handling of this war and the impact of domestic politics on his decision-making. thank you, remember when october 7 happen shortly after that president biden said we had an ironclad commitment to israel, that is faltering over the months and it s very unfortunate to see not only as president joe biden waffling in attempting to tell israel how they should or shouldn t run their war but now we see a number of the other democrats serving in the halls of congress and following the lead by waffling and some of them outright pushing against israel and protesting supporting the palestinians and hamas. it s a really unfortunate situation to be in and israel is her closest friend in ally in the middle east. trey: a gop member of the house, just one but a gop member question if they should remain part of nato which is especially curious thing to say as we celebrate the day when the forces of good join hands to defeat the axis of evil, in your judgment what is the status of nato and with russia s continuing war against ukraine. you know me and most folks know where i stand on this issue i think nato has a role in the world but what we can do as america and as a world leader is encourager nato partners to do much more, they need to make their two requirement of spending on defense were their own countries of their own gdp. we need to push on them to do much more, this is something that president trump had engaged in when he was in the white house and was very successful at that getting our nato allies and friends to stand up and do more, joe biden has left a number of them wondering where is american leadership, this is why we need a change in the white house. nato does have a role to play especially as we see were continuing in europe, we cannot allow it to pervasively push all the crossed europe and threaten our national security in the united states of america. again i think nato is still valid under very relevant and very important to us today. trey: before i let you go, i have to get you to respond iran is going to have a new president he was killed in a helicopter crash, do you expect any change at all in the way that iran interfaces with the rest of the world. not such of a loss for any of us. i m not really mourning the loss of the leader in iran but i don t see any changes coming anytime soon. i think those in control and especially with the supreme leader in iran, he is going to pick and choose who he wants to follow racing, is not going to be good, i think we will continue to see iran in their nefarious actions all across the middle east and especially as they continue to chant death to america. this does not bode well for israel and certainly does not bode well for the united states, nor any of our partners. trey: i am afraid senator you are correct, thank you for your service to our country in uniform and your continuing service in the u.s. senate in joining us on a sunday night. great to be with you. trey: yes, ma am, you two. he s in the 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some foundational not yet, but give me a few years. i probably well, we re going to let off quite how long does it take you to get all made up but phone drag it varies. would on average, you re talking 30 or 40 minutes, but the transition from your average homosexual to ravishing drag queen interesting it s good to see the process step by step. some can enjoy every bit it s my moment to just take myself into a whole another world and just be happy despite whatever going around at the palace bar and restaurant in miami south beach well, tiffany tiffany phantasia is lip-sync into the song, rather be by clean banded so she is slang. that s a drag term for killing it. she s been performing and drag for 20 years in drag. i feel more powerful i feel three. i feel independent. i feel love, i feel joy, especially when i m seeing some papers i love. the freedom of expression. i love making somebody has, i love the glitz and glam because no matter what i m going through a growing through somebody else, is that energy and for those five minutes nothing matters what do you think is the draw for an audience? why do you think people? i tend to directions because it s different. it goes against the status quo. it challenges society we are told as we grow up, you re supposed to act this way, talk this way to this man. that third and here s some body defying all events and performing for you. whether seeing live our lives, thinking or whatever they re defying the social norm, they re going against eagle and that s fascinating for a lot of people drag has fascinated audiences for more than a century there were hugely popular drag balls in harlem during the roaring 20s in the 50s and 60s, crowds packed into clubs featuring what were referred to at the time as female impersonators before a backlash shove, drag into the shadows but perhaps no one has helped bring dragged back into the spotlight today more than dragged superstar rupaul s with the tv competition show rupaul s drag race? sashay, away. but a hit show has been running for 16 seasons collecting a whopping 29 emmy awards along the way. rupaul s world. of wonder production company has built a drag empire launching drag race tv franchises. these type of good is minus zeta, a call in more than a dozen countries around the world. ready, i can show. was on drag race. the audience is connecting with the tenacity of the human spirit that s what that show is really about when you you tear it down to just nuts and bolts we all relate to someone who has been cast off and they prove us wrong. i remember, you can t love yourself. how the how you go, love somebody out. thanks in part to rue rupaul s drag has become more popular than ever. there are dragged branches, drag dinner shows, drag beauty pageants even drag bingo wright, eric, he was we re getting so close to me drag is the main attraction every new year s eve in key west, florida afraid at all, you re just kind of dangling up here a crowd of enthusiasts so revelers counts down to midnight as a drag queen descends from the balcony at this bar in a giant high-heeled shoe we found that queen of this. i ve reported live from these it s devotees for years. and now i m left wondering how did this can t be form of entertainment becomes such a target for the political right. like it is here in my home state of florida republican lawmakers and right-wing leaders across the country are pushing through laws restricting drag shows the law here in florida signed by republican governor ron desantis it aimed at banning children from attending drag shows. it blocks venues are publicly permitted events from admitting children to an adult live performance which according to the law includes any performance that quote, depicts or simulates the lwd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts there are these like these drag shows sexually explicit in what they re doing in luck adult entertainment, people can do what they want with some of that, but there should not be any of these kids. they re the law is up in the air now after a federal judge put it on hold pending a state appeals supporters of the restrictions claim that drag shows are harmful to children. some accused drag queens of being child a derogatory term often used to demonize members of the lgbtq community as pedophiles good the desantis administration filed a complaint against the miami restaurant. our house accusing it of exposing minors to what it called sexually explicit drag shows and threatening to pull its liquor license after a state investigation found no unlawful content in the performances the venue, which denied any wrongdoing, agreed to pay a $10,000 administrative fine and set a minimum age requirement of 18 for their drag shows read coming to your city. does desantis officials also threatened to yank the liquor licenses of the plaza live theatre in orlando, and the hyatt regency in miami for hosting an event called a drag queen christmas we re minors accompanied by their parents, were present even though a report by undercover state agents acknowledged they did not witness any lewd acts. both settled for a $5,000 fine. it is specifically intended with the heightened penalties ten $10,000 fines and fees the suspension of liquor licenses to create fear and to intimidate businesses out of wanting to host drag performances, especially when there are unclear about exactly what is allowed and what is not allowed representative smith, democratic carlos guillermo smith was florida s first lgbtq latino lawmaker. he s currently running for state senate it has led to a chilling effect with pride as well. several pride events across florida have also been canceled or restricted out of concern, drag queens might be seen by children in public resign, hit, particularly hard by the political backlash drag queen story hours like this there once was a boy with the rainbow harms they had signed saying that drag queens were pedophiles with 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named mama ashley rows tell me just a little bit about your background. i was involved in church pretty much my whole life, which led me to get into ministry. and the whole time i knew i was gay, i knew i was struggling even through all that journey feeling of unwanted nus and unloved and never being good enough to where here i am today spreading this message that everyone it was love accepted, and wanted no matter who they are. i remember how it felt to not feel that way. so it s kinda drives me to do what i do today you were once a pastor at an lgbt church, was like pastor mike today, drag queen by night and again, the drag queen, it wasn t even just by night. we started doing events. we started doing fundraisers variety shows, drag dinner shows, drag gospel shows raising money for those in need perfect. it can be $100, could be a couple of thousand dollars. and our events and we not only focus on queer lgbtq plus charities, but we focus on animal shelters, domestic violence, mental health i always knew that my character, mama ashley rose was going to be something different. you re going to be wholesome, going to be not the club bar scene because it was never really my scene. and i just knew that i had to bring something to the table that no one else was doing i look forward to meeting oh, i can t wait for you to meet mama nice to reach. nice to meet you. good seeing you, to see you too. so tell me about you. so mama is just a southern lady that spreads a message to everyone is loved, accepted, and wanted no matter who they are. and we provide a safe space so my job is to make people for loved, make people feel safe, give them a little laugh, a little chocolate sometime i don t when people think of a drag queen this is not the look that i think most people think of. what if my life could bring. it s changed make somebody move absolutely. so drag is an art form and we know that art comes in all shapes, sizes types, and everything. and i love to tell people we have adult television, we have children s television, we have adult radio toluse radio, all that. so i m kinda like the disney channel of drag, who s ready for story time? all. kids if you can come up and have a seat on the floor. so for me, dragged story hour is first of all, teaching literacy. there once was a boy with, uh, rainbow heart it looks a little different. we know that illiteracy is an issue and the world right now. but teaching and reading about kindness, my books are about kindness, about love, about loving yourself. we read stories about how to handle bullies and the list goes on with that, just teaching life skills, you see it s literally just a person in a costume no different than a disney princess reading a story to kids and adults. my sparkly earrings, they see it as this like glamorous princess they re going to listen to a story from someone dressed in a costume before they will have just any random person what kind of backlash have you faced doing drag story hour up until last year? we had no issues and a year ago this december, we had neo-nazis show up outside this building. they had signs saying that drag queens were pedophiles with aids they were projecting on the side of buildings saying that grooming was in process. they were yelling and screaming at children and families. were you scared? i was scared. i was scared jason says he also had to find a new location for an annual drag pageant at the last minute, because the orlando venue was afraid of being targeted by the desantis administration they were really concerned about losing their liquor license so they asked us to make our event 18 up and my response was like, no, i m not going to make an event 18 up when it never has been we don t do 18 and up events. so we had four days to find a new venue to move a whole paget, a whole production show shortly after that in orlando high school was forced to cancel an event featuring jayson he had been scheduled to speak to the school s queer and ally alliance. i have been invited by students for years to go in and the students invite me and of course, with approval of educators and this after-school program, after school club. and i usually say, do you want me to come as json or do want me come as momma and always i mean, they wanted to drag queen, right? so a woman who is part of the moms for liberty, who is also on the orange county school board, basically had a shutdown educators and the principal and the dean were literally their jobs were being threatened if they allow this event to happen. that school board member, alicia for ronde, says she raised questions after hearing complaints it s from dozens of parents but an investigative report by spectrum news 13 in orlando revealed a majority of the emails for ron to received about the event were supportive of it. we have reached out several times different for a response to the report, but i ve heard nothing back i just wanted to be a drag queen and tell funny stories and make people laugh i had no idea it was going to be in this atmosphere. it s scary time. it was a scary time for us secondly, fear of threats, fear of safety the political backlash, jason and many others are now experiencing is familiar to me anyone who knows the history drag more on that next. every week, there ll be police raids every time there was a police raid, it was people in states of drag who were arrested the simons are going off and the tornado here i m thinking, i m going to die. and i thought that was violin earth with liev schreiber donated nine on cnn did you know sling has your favorite news progress for just $40 a month my favorite news for just $40 a month my favorite news for just $40 a month. $40 a month? my favorite for just $40 a month $40 get your favorite news. are $40 a month sling lets you do that with so many choices on booking.com, there are so many tina fey as i could be. so i hired body doubles to help me out splurge 18. it loves a hotel near row de you drive 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gorgeous, 200 page book outlining the history of drag and the political backlash against it. all intertwined with anecdotes from my own irresistible and unpredictable relevance to clean you re welcome why do you think the history of drag is so important? the history of drag is important because people don t know. and in fact, it feels like their cycles of acceptance and then backlash that have happened throughout history sasha grew up steeped in drag history one of sasha is biggest influences this was her grandmother dina she encouraged me to channel lane or diva. she coached me on how to make an inference and the gown the her condo had like one set of stairs coming down from the loft and i would put my costume on up there and then walked down the stairs dramatically. so i have a lot one of her grandmother s favorite hotspots, uh, clubs spotlighting female impersonators in san francisco called for nokia s she would go to for nokia on the weekends drive in from the suburbs of daly city and of course it was a club mostly targeted for straight audiences. and she loved the drag shows. she thought it was so entertaining, and she told you about it. and she told me about it as a little kid. i feel very lucky that i grew up with out shame around drag, at least at home female impersonator clubs across the country, including one in new york called club at t2, became all the rage during the 1950s and 60s the people. who came to the ad to club were everyday people your mom and dad may have come to the 82 club, but also it was packed with celebrities judy garland, milton, berle, elizabeth taylor, richard burton, errol flynn salvador dali, the surrealist, of course, loved drag and the ad he to club dragging the us has strong roots going back to harlem racially diverse groups of people flocked to the rockland palace for headline grabbing drag balls hosted by a black fraternal organization called the hamilton lodge during the harlem renaissance and the roaring 20s harlem drag balls were enlarge pageant deep masquerade experience. and it was meant largely for the black community later on, there started to be more and more white patrons alyssa max goodman wrote a book on the history of drag in new york city called glitter and concrete after a while, they re just became thousands upon thousands of people who would attend. there were prizes given for the best costumes. it was an affair that was i mean, i think it was considered social suicide. if you didn t go in the early 1900s, one of the biggest celebrities in the country, julian l tinge, performed in drag julia elton was one of the top paid performers in vaudeville of julia elton was a female impersonator. so there was this appetite for that type of entertainment we re looking to week four of the class, joey jeffries is a drag. his story, who also teaches a course on rupaul s drag race at the new school in new york city. and at new york university julia elton was very successful financially, artistically. julian elton had any number of plays with music on broadway julian l2 and had his on makeup line, his on magazines. julian l2 inch have a theater named after him el tinge also became a big movie star in films like the aisle of love featuring a van unknown rudolph valentino the premise of his movies was very much like the premise of his plays. which is also part of his identity. i m a guy. i m in some life-threatening situation that requires me to get an address and that is the only reason i am getting an address. it s the sum like get hot narrative it s a similar premise and the hollywood hit movie starring tony curtis and jack lemmon, as well as other hugely successful films like tutsi mrs. down, fire thank you for denia. don t fire drag was also popular among members of the us military. broadway productions and movies portrayed soldiers performing and drag shows for the troops drag was central to a morale effort during world war two. and to the point where eisenhower was giving commendations to troops that use dragged to say that you are doing a great job in your serving your country. in irving berlin, in stage musical, became a movie featuring soldiers and drag called this is the army starring none other than ronald reagan ready to the chorus curtain? but appearing in drag outside the movies and female impersonator clubs was a far different story. there were very strict rules at the club at two, for example, where he men had to arrive in men s clothes, put on their makeup, their and then leave in men s clothes that s largely due to a crackdown on what we now call drag queens and gaze during the mccarthy era in the 50s, that became known as the lavender scare. the attitude at the time that created the lavender scare was homosexuality was as much a threat to the us as communism. it was a dark period in the 50s four draft your performance because there was legislation out there that was stopping it banning it, and trying to restrict it somewhat in the ways that we re seeing today. we really never had a law that banned drag. but there was a law on the books here in new york that band masquerading and they started enforcing this ancient law against masquerade to cut down on people dressing up outside of their legal gender. if you re caught in a bar or walking the street and you didn t have enough pieces of the appropriate gender clothing on you literally would be taken to jail. being a drag queen was something shameful and you would maybe lose your job if people found out that you d like to dress and drag you could lose your family institutional and cultural stigma against drag was huge and it was deeply tied to fears of brown trans, people. and even around like gay people generally that harassment and discrimination against drag queens would go on to play a vital role in the uprising that ignited the fight for lgbtq rights that might finally, they d had enough of it they didn t enough of being pushed around it change that night next sunday on 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happen too often. was pleased to come in, take a pay off, and leave this was a little different rather than coming in and coming through doors commonly, they burst through the doors they started throwing things around. they were pick up the bottles, throw them away they took people, slam them against the wall. they smashed everything they could possibly see somebody started throwing things to do or when the police wanted to leave a stone according to have them your pocket. those people who actually fought that night or street kids like me, marginalized people, drag queens so drag queens were on the front lines. the stonewall up absolutely almost everything we did in that first year, which i call the first magical year leading from stonewall to the first pride. all of that had drag queens involved in every aspect there wasn t a demonstration that they weren t present some way, shape or form. they were at the meetings giving their voice, getting their opinion two of the most prominent activist to emerge from the movement where drag queens, marsha p. johnson and sylvia rivera, both women of color, who became icons of the fight for lgbtq rights. the two form to trans rights group and open north america s first lgbtq youth center i think one of the most impactful things that sylvia rivera and marsha p. johnson did was found a house that became a safe place for young queer and trans people for teenagers who had escaped home for homeless kids living in new york to come and live. and they called it the street transvestite action revolutionaries, or star house the became like an, an activist organization as well as a hub and a home for so many in need to do around the same time, gay and transgender kids founded another safe haven in an emerging underground drag scene called the house ballroom. it s like forcing into the looking glass captured in the critically acclaimed documentary. paris is burning and depicted in the tv hit post forum started in harlem in the 1960s it was created by drag queens of the time latino and african-american drag queens, who wanted to create her own pageants because that s what they were in the beginning. they were pageants. they were tired of competing in the patch since that were downtown and losing to their white counterparts beautiful. felix rodriguez get is as a filmmaker who has been documenting house ballroom culture for decades seen on his youtube channel, old school ballroom a boil is like the super bowl for black and latino, where people it s where all these houses which are like teams come to this venue to compete against each other it s a group of people that are together as a family. they can be compared to everything from be similar to fraternity and sorority to being a gay gang. it was a time when gay men and trans people pool of color were thrown out of their houses, literally from their family. and they had to find a place to live houses were the communities that welcomed people they ll situations a competitive new dance style also came out of the ballroom scene bogeying, which is very powerful hello, in a lot of people think that madonna created it, but she had vogue dancers in her tour and created song logan became in popular but vogue ing started in the ballroom scene and still continues to be in the ballroom scene the ballroom culture is still thriving today. in fact, the venue where we interviewed felix rodriguez is a brooklyn club named $3 bill that host weekly ballroom competitions called ota, or open to all right now, but back when ballroom was still under to ground, another drag phenomenon was also hitting the scene he was wearing mohawks and shoulder pads and waiting boots. let s just say that the repo of today look had not yet come together lady bunny is now an iconic drag queen who s been making audiences laugh for more than 40 years they tried to make me go to rehab and i said, you know what, that s done? an idea are you nervous not at all, but she got her start back in the 80s when drag was far from mainstream, along with another relatively obscure performer at the time named ru paul oh you want once they send that to the audience we met in atlanta and we re instantly as thick as thieves so what was the scene like? did you bond there will ruin. i did bond there at one point, we became homeless to get i came to new york with root paul. we can to the pyramid this is in 1983 and i was drunk i lip-sync to, i will survive halfway through it. there s that little low in the song. where did she comes back with the big gone now, go during that low, i had fallen lost a shoe and the wig was hanging by a thread, but i got up there on that one shoe and finish the rest of the number and i was a favorite at the pyramid wir sind then at the time all of this drag and all of this fun was happening at the pyramid. the specter of aids was raised and of course we were young and sexually active. we didn t know what to do. you found in wig stock yes. to help raise funds for the aids crisis? yes i started wig stuck in a park across the pyramid. i wanted to showcase the many different kinds of talent it. was drag queens who lyptsi lip-sync for example i just felt that there was this wealth of talent that could appeal to a wider audience. and my hunch was correct aids was running, ramping through new york how was drag and wigs docx a, a political reaction to what the reagan administration was doing or not doing. i think that the political statement was that there s no shame in our game that there s nothing wrong with us that we love what we do. and then it s entertaining so i felt like what my role was to be a jester and to put on a fun show to make us forget about aids, to make us forget about everything except we re still here and we re glad that we re here. and let s celebrate week stock went on to draw crowd swelling into the thousands stock, as well as becoming a subject of a welding receive documentary week stop. the movie, launching lady bunny into the limelight root. paul began rising to start ms well, transforming her punk drag look into the glamorous glitz of her breakout hit supermodel and paul definitely knew how to work in growing up, i knew i would be famous. i knew i wanted to be famous. i didn t know how i was going to be famous drag presented itself to me and i thought, okay, this is is the rest is root hall would say is history you may leave the stage rupaul s drag race over the past 16 years has hot rotted dragged back into the mainstream public consciousness. it makes drag accessible not only as an art form, but in a place that people can watch it right there on their television screen or streaming all that success may drag a huge draw for detractors to do no such thing as a family friendly drag show. we re going to make that clear in the state of florida coming up, a sponsor of the florida law aimed at drags speaks out and drag queens clap bashing. do i look like a stripper anderson cooper 360 weeknight today 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to children well, guess where else drag queens aren t and brynn mention in a big long list in the 20 line definition of this bill that republican lawmaker, he s referring to, is this man, florida state representative randy fine this bill didn t talk about drag queen it doesn t mention the word drag queens deals yet when representative fine, introduced the bill, which further restricts laws already on the books, protecting children from adult live performances he posted on facebook that would ban the city of melbourne from welcoming drag queen adult entertainers from grooming our children. it s not mentioned in the bill, but you have mentioned it in a post that s fair point, but that is the kind of entertainment that inspired me. to do the bill. you hadn t men dressed as strippers effectively performing as such in public? i don t care what consenting adults do, but i think we should keep this stuff away from our kids. what was the goal of the bill, the gold the bill to protect kids. what specifically do you think children need to be protected from? well, i think they need to be protected from sexualization. it s totally unnecessary and the fact that we already have so many good laws to protect children from adult performances. it exposed that this bill was really just about targeting drag if you think the law is targeting drag shows and drag queens, why not just mentioned that directly? because if they overtly mentioned drag performances in the letter of the law, it would have immediately been obvious to any attorney in any the judge that this is an unconstitutional censorship of their first amendment freedom representative fine argues that while the law mentions prosthetic breasts, which many drag queens where it spells out other criteria that would be necessary to make drag shows admitting children illegal so wearing prosthetic breasts does not equal an adult life performance. it has to be that and three or four other things. this is all meant to be vague. it s meant to intimidate, isn t there a danger in intimidating some of these venues from hosting drag? performances or not intimidating them were laying out what the definition is and we re saying if you do these, there s going to be consequences. do you think drag queen shows and drag queen story hours can be family-friendly no, i don t. that doesn t mean they re all illegal. that doesn t mean they re all adult life performances. but no, i don t believe it s appropriate for kids do you see drag queens as a threat to children i think that s a challenging question. that s like saying, do you think adults are a threat to let me put it this. i do think drag queens are looking to groom children. are they groomer? i think some are. i don t understand why a man wants to dress up like a woman. and then read stories to children. i don t think it s that complicated that doesn t mean that 100% of those violate the law. i want to be clear about that. how would that be harmful to children? because i think it confuses them drag queen story, our says our goal in doing this is to celebrate gender fluidity. there is a purpose behind this, and it is to confuse and indoctrinate children in a majority of this legislature, we do not believe in gender fluidity we do not believe in transgender science. do you know of one case of a child who attended drag queen story hour and then decided to become transgender. i do not know. have you ever been to drag queen story hour? no. have you ever been to a drag show not that i can remember. most of these people and i ve seen have never even been to a drag show. they ve never experienced the drag is an art and seeing that there are different types of drag jayson to dechambeau traveled to the florida capital when the bill was being debated. he did to testify before the legislature in full drag mama ashley robes. i have a question. do i look like a stripper? well, i walked up and my first response and comment to those do i look like a stripper because many politicians have said that i dress like strippers, like i don t dress like that. do you see yourself as a threat to children? no, i do not see myself as a threat to children nor do i see any drag performer threat to a child. drag performers know that if you re in a club, if you re in a nightclub, fearing a bar 18 and up, you perform differently, right? especially in our events, are performers know that when we have family here they dress different. they perform different. so now we know threat. but the overall message and the reason why you do drag story hour as what to teach that message that your love accepted and wanted no matter who you are and let you know that everyone should read the idea of the grooming that dragged does is just the message of tolerance. and that the message of acceptance could be so dangerous that it would brainwash a child. maybe if they don t want a world of tolerance they should be afraid of us because we are fighting for that. you know, about the history of drag. having written a book about it, do you worry about the history repeating itself? the history is repeating itself currently all around us. for awhile, it felt like we were getting progress they say if you don t learn the past, you re going to repeat it i think there s a lot of strength to be found in history to we see the way that despite being thrown in jail, despite being fine, despite losing their jobs queer people continued to gather together and put on shows and find ways to keep existing and stay true to ourselves. so if they can do it, we still have a chance today how much do you think gender identity and sexuality are playing a role in? these new laws that are targeting drag, gender, identity and sexuality are the reason that drag is being targeted. because if it was just costumes without any possibility of queerness, i think it would be fine they re ignorant and the ruud and homophobia i would tell ron desantis, we are not your political pawns stop using that s for clickbait the one and only miss tiffany fantasia there are tim million other things that you need to be taken care of and put policies in place to circumvent the problems of the average flow of radiant here we worried about a dam drag show. we re not doing anything, but making sure that you people i haven t a good time and not worry about the problem that they have because you re not doing your job governor desantis has not responded to our request for comment in her drag show called don t bring the kids, lady bunny takes on republican lawmakers pushing anti legislation with a parody of adele s song. rumor has it but given the guns birthday is that hooters with your under gop hypocrisy can t take it no more dreadfully aren t the people is d to watch out for groomer? is it? rumor? is it despite the crackdowns, these drag queens insist the drag show will go on. i would be a miss to stay. i wasn t scared. i d be a miss to say that i there are times i just want to pack the makeup up and not do it again but i m not going anywhere. we re going to keep fighting there is a fighting spirit in drag we can make magic with nothing and even if they take everything, like for a month we re still going to find a way to put on a show to entertain the thing i ve found is people love drag if we have a chance to put on a show for you, you re going to fall in love legal battles over drag performances continue. so far, laws proposed in florida texas, tennessee, and montana had been blocked by federal judges on constitutional grounds. the states are appealing those decisions. thanks for watching the whole story. i ll see you next sunday
after 22 witnesses and 16 days of testimony, donald trump has become the first ever american president to be convicted of a crime. this trial will go down in history. but without cameras in the courtroom, americans never got to see the evidence for themselves. they didn t get to see trumps eyes close and his mouth go slack as he sat slumped at the defense table. they didn t get to hear stormy daniels salacious testimony, firsthand. i didn t get to watch the judge clear the courtroom, seemingly in anger, as he butted heads with one particularly truculent witness. instead, americans have to rely on word from the few reporters who were actually in the room, making notes, writing down, committing to memory the things we saw and experienced. things that a transcript cannot capture. take a look. that was something to behold. i could hear gasps all around me . i wasn t sure we are going to get to a place where we had any guilty verdict against donald trump, let alone all 34 counts. donald trump was crying from the oval office. he was writing checks from the white house. this is a professional jury as you can get. and you can never read anything from them. in terms the vibe from the room, you heard about it being kind of a courtroom, it s real. i was in the courtroom, his eyes have been close most of the morning. i can t say what is happening behind those lids. one simple work, guilty, repeated over and over and over. something we have never seen before. , tonight we welcome you to the special msn ec event, prosecuting donald trump a witness to history. over this next hour, andrew weissman and i will lead you through what you missed inside the courtroom. not the line by line details of witness testimony, but with the help of our msnbc colleagues, will tell you what it was really like to sit just behind donald trump as the details of the case spilled over. we will tell you what it felt like in the room when witnesses took the stand just a few feet away from the former president. the unscripted, unpredictable moments when the former president seemed to be nodding off, uttering curse words. what people said to each other in the line for the bathroom after that riveting controversial testimony from stormy daniels. from andrew weissman and best legal minds, we will hear from what they saw inside the court, that the nonlawyers, like the rest of us, might have missed. start things off with our first impressions from inside manhattan courthouse. it is a surreal moment going for the first time. and see a former president of the united states, who is simultaneously the world s greatest con artist. those two things at the same time as a criminal defendant, just spends things in a way that nothing else can. and the weirdness of that alone is your first in the courtroom. in that first hour, it is hard to take in anything other than the weirdness of donald trump. anticipating going into the courtroom, i was actually excited to do it. but first of all, because i feel like a somebody who has written a trump book and has been covering this man from the beginning of his presidential campaign on, this kind of felt like a crescenta moment for him , and for the country. it is the only trial that he is going to face. so it definitely felt like a big moment and something that i really did want to witness for myself. having worked in another investigation, and we could not charge the sitting president and donald trump, that was a department of justice rule. now, in a full-fledged criminal case, it was kind of remarkable. i thought there would be a lot of people there. a lot of pro trump people, in particular. and they really weren t. and then found my nbc pham, around the spot where we do stand up, found all the producers and camera operators and everything and stood in line for a really long time. i will say, the thing that i learned was it is not what you are wearing that makes a difference. it is what you are wearing on your feet, because where you are going to get caught is through the soles of your dress shoes, you idiot, why didn t you wear sneakers? people understand, it is not you just walk up to the courthouse and they whisk you in and it was this easy breezy kind of thing. you line up outside, across the street from center street because they anticipate a number of people showing up. so you have three different lines, it is, flake flying on an airline was actually kind of put you in a different group of people to board. two courtroom that look identical, the only difference being the judge and the jury, et cetera, are in the overflow. the overflow room hold other members of the media and also withhold members of the public. the overflow room has a very large monitor at the front of it that shows directly councils table. so you have the prosecution on one side, the defense on the other. what you very clearly see donald trump. it was like a spa compared to the courtroom. you can go to the restroom whatever you want to. you can, and there is this absence of tension. in the overflow room. that i didn t know i was feeling in the courtroom. until i wasn t in the courtroom. and it is almost like, you know, you re standing in this very difficult window all day. and then the wind stops. it is that kind of very different sensation in what seems to be the same place. the day before senator tommy tuberville of alabama had gone to the trial and said it was the most depressing building he had ever been in, and he scorned on it. and i take that man s statement with a grain of salt. but it was perfectly nice. it was a good, highly functioning municipal building. it kind of struck me how much a certain class of americans are used to very elite spaces, and they are not used to public spaces. in a simple spaces, bureaucratic spaces, you have to spend a lot of time in those kinds of spaces. elite people, people of power and money, they tend to be in grandeur. donald trump in that setting, both when he is walking past you, he walks in and out and you kind of seen for the first time. this was the first time i have seen him in person, he was less than expected the first time i was in the courtroom, donald trump was very surprised to see me because i had been mostly reporters, very few anchor types showing up there. and donald trump has hated me longer than anyone who was going to walk into that courtroom. he was once very fond of stormy daniels and you know, very fond of michael cohen. in 2011, when donald trump started about the presidential birth certificate, i said he was lying about it and i called him on the lie and donald trump had never been called a liar before in his life when he was leaving that day, he just did the stupidest thing you could possibly do, he looked right at me, in this grand way, that everyone in the courtroom could see, and he was trying to do a face that would be tough guy and scary and threatening and full of hate, but he is a terrible actor. and so it came out as just an insanely twisted face that meant nothing but madness. and i loved it. if there were cameras in the court, people all over america in all 50 states would be calling in sick to work in order to stay on and watch this thing. i mean, it is so freaking compelling in person. and the drama of this particular criminal case against trump is both lurid and cogent and full of amazing characters, and has just enough surprise to make every witness kind of a cliffhanger. it s, you can t. i don t know if trump is falling asleep or if he is just resting his eyes, but it is not boring. it is riveting. riveting is the perfect word to describe what it was like inside donald trump s trial. every trial is dramatic, it is why we all get addicted to tv shows like law and order and the wire. this is real life, and it was no exception. but it is one thing to hear the news about it, or if you are a nerd like me, to read the cold transcript. but tonight, we re going to continue to learn from people who were inside the courtroom, day in and day out, waking up at the crack of dawn to wait in line to get one of the few seats available to the public and the press at 100 center street here in manhattan. so tonight i m joined by a very special legal panel, who also spent many hours in the manhattan criminal courthouse, please welcome nbc senior legal correspondence and attorney, laura jarrett, in legal contributor, and former terminal trial attorney, katie fang, and msnbc legal correspondent, law litigator, lisa rubin. they are here with us for the whole hour, along with msnbc hosts giving us their impression from inside the courthouse. lisa, obviously, some of these witnesses got a ton of attention. they may not have been the most important witnesses. but stormy daniels, michael cohen. maybe the most surprising witness, which was the defendants last witness, the last anyone heard from bob castillo s. the big picture, what was your impression of how they did that people might not get from just reading accounts and hearing from us about what was technically said what was the sort of demeanor and tone that people might get i think the most important part about the witness that you can t get from reading the transcript, or sometimes even watching our coverage is the entrance and the exit. because all the witnesses were brought in through a side door to the courtroom, instead of the traditional back door where you walk along the entirety of the gallery, he watched through the center aisle and walked to the witness stand. here, each and every witness, no matter hostile to donald trump or friendly, had to walk by his first row of surrogates on their way into the courtroom. went by corporal security officers and those of them who had counsel, their counsel then load thereafter. in some cases, trump really wanted to have an interaction with the as with rona graff, his former executive assistant and other cases, the body language was as hostile as hostile could be. michael cohen looks like you wanted to vault over the courtroom doors so that he could avoid being even proximate to donald trump. that that entrance and exit was really fascinating to watch. katie, i had a question to you is somebody who spent so many years as a criminal prosecutor. lots of people have talked about how there should have been cameras in the courtroom, at least audio. and let s leave that aside for a moment. how do you think, if there had been cameras, that might have affected witnesses, the lawyers on either side, or even the defendant, donald trump, if this had been televised. i think it would ve increased the intensity of the experience for everyone involved, especially the witnesses. you kind of ask yourself on and off, donald trump himself would have maybe reacted to more visibly than he did. maybe she wouldn t have acted or looked like he was asleep if you knew that there was a camera trained on him. but when it comes to the witnesses themselves, it is important because if they knew, just like we have seen in other trials, that they would be on the witness stand. i think it would ve amplified maybe even performances that we saw from some of the witnesses. i think you are more hyperaware. i also think the jurors would have been aware, even if you never saw their identities, i know that they know it is important, what is at stake. but when you re in a courtroom, it is a small space. people need to understand this is not some huge cavernous federal courtroom. it is a small state courtroom and so people are within very close proximity, within feet of each other. and that is the jury. so if you know also, does not just people in the court that are watching or the overflow room, is america and the world, i think that amplifies the intensity. i was really surprised by how close the witness stand was to the jury box. really close. and actually the witness stand for donald trump was much, much further. so that was something i think you don t get from being there. much more for supersmart legal panel who were inside the courtroom, coming up. first, it is one of the most shocking testimonies of the truck, when stormy daniels took the stand, all while apparently, unbeknownst to us, wearing a bulletproof vest. after the break, our team takes us not only inside the courtroom, but inside the elevators and, wait for it, bathroom lines. where reporters try to process what they had just heard. you re watching prosecuting donald trump, witness to history. many of the journalists in the room are looking at each other think, my gosh, i can t believe that this is happening. i cannot believe this is actually being set on a public state. either way, how am i going to communicate this on television? everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. head & shoulders 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that bullet proof vest her lawyer says she wore to court. here are some more firsthand accounts from my colleagues from inside the room. when she came in, all of us kind of took a deep breath. no one expected we don t know who the witnesses are until that day. for a reason. right? the prosecution always protects their witnesses. resources we might figure out who witnesses maybe an hour beforehand. that morning, donald trump had posted on truth social that they had just informed of who the witness was and they had prepared and that person shouldn t be able to take the stand. and so the minute he had posted that, and then, by the way deleted it an hour later, we said, it is going to be stormy. i have compared this trial to watching two movies that are made eight years apart. and none of the central characters look the way you remember them in 2016. that is true of michael cohen, for example, as it is stormy daniels. on day one, she came in in a jumpsuit with her hair sort of haphazardly piled up on top of her head, wearing glasses, and not looking at all like the adult film star that we remembered. i have since come to learn, because her lawyer said this on another media outlet, she was wearing a bulletproof vest. and that accounted, i think, for her appearance, as well. she was wearing an outfit that accommodated her wearing a bulletproof vest because she felt that her life was at risk in coming to court and testify against former president trump and the reaction of people in margo world, who are loyal to president trump, i could just tell you this by looking at my twitter feed, reinforced why she felt she was in danger. we know trump reactions to stormy daniels thing, you can see. but there s donald trump, known to millions of people as the orange turned that has to sit there for the first time in his life and listen to himself being called the orange, his defense lawyer thinking that somehow harms stormy daniels. that she flippantly refers to donald trump as the orange turd. there s not a juror there who cares that stormy daniels refers to him as the orange turd. not one, they re not offended by it. these are new yorkers, these are people who have hurt worse in every trip on the subway. so we leave the courtroom, we walk out, there is like a row of bathrooms during breaks. everybody kind of lines up in the bathroom like you would in any kind of public place. we are all online looking at each other, giving eyes to each other. oh my gosh, that really what happened? getting onto the elevator, going down for lunch, did she just accuse the former president of this? did she just say this happened with the former president everybody s kind of mulling over and digesting what it is we all just heard the jurors, i think, have been admirably sort of stonefaced. i know i have seen reports, i didn t see it with my own eyes, but i ve seen reports of some jurors kind of involuntarily reacting to some of the more salacious details i came out, particularly during stormy daniels paths tory., the jury was like stonehenge. like they were very restrained. this is a case about falsifying business records and the defense team made it sound like a 1970s rape case. they went after her about really hard about the fact that she has been in the porn industry for years. you have been in more than 200 porn films, how could you be a damsel in distress in the hotel room? in that moment, look at right at the jurors faces to try to see if i could read anything and get any glimpse of what they were thinking. they were inscrutable. they are maintaining a poker face the whole time. this is the same courtroom that harvey weinstein was tried in. this is a storied courthouse. this is a storied prosecution team. they have done sex crimes before. this was such a momentto have the woman at the center of this case basically told she couldn t have possibly been a comfortable because she had been. she was treated so differently than other witnesses. hope hicks and david pecker, the person at the head of the national enquirer, were devastating witnesses. they are sensitive testimony is so damning for donald trump and their cross-examination was kid gloves. nobody s testimony is in some respects, more devastating than hope hicks, because of her proximity. nobody questioned her credibility but if you take a step back and you separate these women and you forget about the accident of their respective births, hope hicks, for example, coming from very wealthy, greenwich, connecticut. sort of the academy of poise and grace in the trump white house, contrasted with stormy daniels, who had, by contrast, very rough childhood, a mother who abandoned her. all this comes out on her direct examination. but the difference in how they were trusted, i think, is really palpable. sort of a toxic brew of class and misogyny. there was absolutely a judgment about her credibility based on what she did for a living. and then you have to think to yourself, well, wait a second. hope hicks may look the way that she did, but she not only worked for trump once, she worked for trump twice she left the white house in march of 2018, came back to work for the former president, and stayed after he lost the election, despite the fact that she was privately advising him that he had lost in the things that his lawyers and allies were saying about his not losing the election and his winning were fraudulent. she still stayed. i have to question, who lacks credibility now? so fascinating to hear their stories. the legal brains in the room or hyper focused on the defenses strategy to go hard after stormy daniels on cross- examination. but not hope hicks or david pecker. our panel had a front row seat to it all is back. so, katie, from your spot in the courtroom, what do you think of stormy daniels? how did she do from actually seeing her life, as opposed to just reading it cold? she did a spectacular job. stormy daniels s testimony did not come across as rehearsed. whether you liked it or not, because of the sincerity. didn t seem like she rehearsed or practiced her testimony. given, she had prepared and that is the big difference. preparing with lawyers is totally different. but she prepared for that and she did a great job and i think she knew that even though, i call it a detour, not a sideshow but 80 torr of the case took a detour to export what happened between her and donald trump because he had to create the foundation of why the payment was made by michael cohen. how it got to the level of the business records being falsified. but you needed to have that dialogue. and what is really important, everybody likes to say that this is a paper case but is about humanity in some way, right? people s courage, people s involvement with others. extramarital affairs, hush money payments, all that is a very human thing and she brought that humanity to the case. i had the same reaction. i thought, in many ways, she did better on cross, because you got a better sense of her as a person. and she was responding sort of naturally to questions that she didn t know what was coming up and she really got a sense of her and also i thought how smart. exactly. you know, the sort of assumption, as you said, are ones that are sort of, i sort of found myself checking myself saying why am i so surprised? i should not have been. so laura, so one of the more unusual aspects of this case was how it ended with bob castillo being called by the defense. i did not see that coming. lisa always thought they would call him. i thought they wouldn t do it. i am with you. one of the reasons i m with you is that bob castillo, if you remember, was somebody who donald trump said before this case was indicted, that he wanted the grand jurors to hear from you that well, okay, that is a really stupid move because it is never going to stop the grand jury from indicting, you just revealed something to the prosecution. and as a defense lawyer, one of the things you have, sometimes almost the only thing you have is surprised. and so here they sort of, it was flopped out to the prosecution a year ago. so obviously, the call record here does give some flavor to castillo. i don t know if he explains the clearing of the courtroom and how dramatic it was to be in the room with the judge who was so fired up. i thought he was going to throw him behind bars. so bob castillo gets on the stand and right away, he is combative, he is aggressive. he is rolling his eyes, he is muttering audibly. could you hear it? i am in the courtroom, lighting up the chat like, guys, this is going off the rails fast, okay? we had a sense it was going south but i didn t know it was going to go as south as it did. in the overflow, by the way. you are also communicating to your colleagues? we sort of have a bizarre pony express situation now. allow do some electronics not also we can use our phones in the physical courtroom because i think there s a concern that somebody is going to mess up and tape it, even though we had been admonished not to but we can use our laptops. and so we can send messages by email, by slack, by dm but we can t use our phones. so in the chat, we are all sitting color from the courtroom about what we are observing, that tone, about how things are going. i often just focus on the jury is i m very interested in what they re picking up on. right away, the jury is looking at each other like something is about to go down here. so it had been a sleepy morning. everybody was sort of feeling monday, all of its glory. and then bob castillo get on the stand in the afternoon and we are off to the races. so because he was so, i think, contemptuous of the judge and the process and did not like being interrupted this is a federal prosecutor who really felt like he should be respected and he thought susan hoffinger, the prosecutor, was telling him in a way that he didn t like and he didn t like interrupted when she was objecting. most of those objections were sustained. so in the room, the tension is boiling, okay? and finally, the judge sends the jury out. i go oh god, here we go. but then, robert costello is giving it back to the judge, and the judge got so upset he clears the courtroom from the press, which is highly unusual, okay? usually, there s a security situation, that is one thing. this was not that. the judge was fired up and i think he was worried about what he might say and so he clears the courtroom for only a few minutes, we should make that clear. it wasn t long. we all come back in and he is still kind of rolling his eyes for the remainder of the afternoon. there is a period, the period where everyone gets out of the courtroom other than, you have honestly the defense team, on the prosecution table. but then the public and the press are out of the room. not all of them. that is what i was going to say. so it is really interesting because i think as we mentioned, the first two rows, which were sort of friends of, like bride and groom. they are still there. but this is what, all of us have to go through, the cold record. it is chaotic. the media is screaming we have a right to be here. our media lawyers trying to object. the court officers are having none of it. everybody is ushered in. thank you, the judge to make a record of what happened. so in a couple of hours we also the transcript, we know what happened. in the moment, we all were sent out but obviously should not have happened. this legal panel the state put four more of our excellent discussion. but first, you could feel the tension in the courtroom when trump s one-time fixer, michael cohen, took the stand and came face-to-face with his ex-boss for the first time in years. he was like sammy groove on a and he just skillet and can weigh, a long line of under links flipping on their bosses. after the break, our team gives us their first-hand account of what that moment was like. the first moment when trump s lawyer, todd blanche, gets up and asked cohen, did you call me a little crying [ bleep ] or whatever it was, and the judge immediately instructs them to approach as the d.a.s office raises an objection. everyone was talking about that. 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[vroom] [train horn] [buzz] clearing the way, [whoosh] so you arrive exactly where you belong. once the testimony from stormy daniels was over, we didn t have to wait long before the next very dramatic testimony , michael cohen, trumps former fixer and loyal attack dog. now a star witness for the prosecution. and his testimony placed the former president at the center of this alleged criminal scheme. so what was it like in person? what was it like when michael cohen saw his old boss for the first time in years? and what was it like to witness the showdown between cohen and trumps defense lawyers? during what turned out to be just a brutal cross examination ? let s go back inside the courtroom with our msnbc and nbc colleagues. the jury has been waiting for this moment as long as we have. it is highly anticipated. they have come face-to-face before in the civil fraud trial, but this is criminal this is different. and he is the only one who can tie donald trump directly to this crime. he is the linchpin of the prosecutor s case and he has given up the goods. he has put him from trump tower to the oval office in a way that nobody else can. there s a few moments that really stood out. the first moment wins trumps lawyer, todd blanche gets up and asks cohen, did you call me a little crying [ bleep ]? the judge immediately instructs him to approach, as the d.a.s office raises an objection. everyone was talking about that. everybody was talking about how strange way for blanche to open up the proceedings. when you prosecute cases whenever but he has her hands dirty. that was michael cohen of the time when he was working for donald trump and doing these things for him, it always, always captivates and captures the interest of the jury when they hear from the fixer, when they hear from the henchman, when they hear from the guys that did the dirty work for the kingpin. i did not notice any interaction between the former president and michael cohen. but i did notice how closely michael cohen is making i can t with the jury, especially when he is describing some of the most emotional parts of the story. when he is describing his come to jesus moment when why he decided he is going to choose his family over donald trump i think cohen was successful in maintaining control over his own demeanor. he did not get agitated. he did not act out. there were times where he got short or little snippy but mostly maintained the kind of equilibrium throughout that i think was probably helpful with the jury. i think he did do a pretty good job of humanizing himself look, there are many people on the jury that will never know a person whose loyalty to an accused criminal defendant was as extensive as michael cohen s was by his own admission. of course, michael cohen is a person who pled guilty on two different occasions to a panoply of federal crimes. one of the federal judges called it a smorgasbord of crime. i think you humanized himself? yes. i think it is necessarily relatable? not quite. but he doesn t have to be a person that they want to have a beer with. these are some the most stunning days in court when michael cohen finally took the stand. as the piece mentioned, the jury seemed to have been waiting for that moment as long as the journalist in the room had. but being there, in person, there s some really noticeable differences between the michael cohen we have gotten to know on cable news shows or maybe his podcast versus who we saw testifying. his demeanor, how he sounded i will have to say, i posted a double take when the defense played a clip of cohen from his podcast, when you heard his voice from the podcast, and compare that to what you had heard from the stand over the last day. in that contrast is something that can play very well for the defense in summation to argue there are really two michael cohen s katie, lisa, and laura are back with us. i wanted to ask about that issue of how you thought his very polite, unflappable, even killed demeanor. solemn. which, in many ways, is what you want a witness to be. i thought that played given that they did see this other piece, they actually heard his voice and he also was describing the way he behaved in bullying people and acting as, a phrase that i hate but i m going to use, as sort of trumps pitbull. he has done that the moment is coming for a long time, for anybody getting up there, it is rattling and he kept his cool, even when things got thrown his way that he was not prepared for and that were a surprise and made him look like a liar. even he was crossed at some point about his information about his wife and his child. that i thought oh, okay, what is going to happen, i was waiting for fireworks. but they didn t come, he kept a calm, and i think that he came off as, on the stand, sort of hat in hand on his. there were times where i felt like he was sort of resisting in terms of like, well, that doesn t play alive. i thought just tell them, of course, just own it. you have already come this far. they heard two on the podcast talking about revenge is a dish best served cold. let s lay it all out there and they won t punish you for it. the jury think you re being authentic. even if what you said is horrendous, right? jurors are like drug dealers and they think they are being honest, they have to come off as authentic. so i m surprised there were times where there was like, you could feel that resistance. katie, wanted to talk to you about juan merchan, the judge overseeing this. full disclosure, i now have a man crush on him. i just think he is just a spectacular judge. the first thing when i went to court, the very first time, i was struck by his voice and we have all been in court, we have seen judges and seen judges who can t control a courtroom. we have seen judges who control a courtroom by raising their voice and through histrionics and hear, he controlled the courtroom by being the adults in the room and had such a calm judicial temperament. and i just felt like he wasn t going to tolerate and he expected everyone to behave properly. it was just, i thought, sort of remarkable. that is sort of my view. don t let me influence you. how do you think he did? this is the first ever trial of a current or former president, enormous pressures, enormous claims of violations of the gag order that he found 10 times and a lot of novel legal issues to deal with, how did you think he did managing this case? we have been inside courtrooms, in front of judges, very high-stakes cases, the one thing that we know is the person who is gatekeeping everything is the judge, right? and to laura s point that she made earlier, the jury looks to the judge, sometimes as a paternal figure or a maternal figure or somebody who is going to be there to kind of guide us through this process, which can be confusing it can be mazelike for some people. the thing about donald trump is he has introduced us to different judges, right? we have seen the brett kavanaugh s of the world, and his demeanor during a confirmation hearing. we have also seen justice arthur engoron through the civil fraud trial. we have seen judge kaplan from federal court for e. jean carroll s trials. we have seen different judges. the thing that i think is so, so poor in terms of america not being able to know judge merchan is not being able to see and hear him because he is measured and he is calm, even in the face of all the scrutiny and all these complex legal issues. why? because this man came to the united states, he immigrated at the age of six from columbia. he is one of six children. he was washing dishes. he went to school. you know, he graduated at the first member of his family to go to college. he lived in queens. he worked at the new york d.a.s office, and the new york state attorney general s office and has been a judge since 2006. if there is anyone who isn t, i beg you, find somebody else that is not more new york than judge juan merchan. a lot of new york are, when you think about donald trump having a jury of his peers in this trial, but having a man like judge or sean who is overseeing just the personalities, right? and having to be able to manage that. he has done a fantastic job and i think it is just not good that we haven t been able to see that in terms of on video. i love your response, because donald trump has attacked this judge, is not the first time he has attacked judges because, as donald trump says, he is unfair because of where he comes from, to quote. we all know what that means. and your answer tells us exactly where this judge came from and there will be controversy from this trial, one side or the other, in every trial, one side is disappointed or not, as to what happened. and the fact that we were all there, inside the court, i think we can all agree. this is such a fair trial, and such a fair process because of the judge, there are really good lawyers on both sides. whatever was happening, it is not because the process isn t working. again, it is really important, and i think the judge is primarily responsible for that. so, all right, we re not the only ones consumed by this trial. our viewers also have a lot of questions, we ll answer a few of them. you re watching prosecuting donald trump, witness to history. ya know, if you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you re off the racking. .or crab cracking, you re cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i m working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? 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down uniform on plus the mask. she said you are going to be in the shot. she said what shot you? are going to stand there and hold the plattedder of calimari. i was wondering how we were going to hold this thing or prop it up. we are going to put you in the shot. i did. from there it became iconic. the rest is history. carley: their seconds until fox & friends. i didn t know this before calimari is rhode island s official appetizer. really quickly, what s the best way to serve it? nice and crispy with pepper, hot pepper rings, garlic and olive oil and a little bit of aregular know basil. carley: just the way we like it. do you approve? todd: oh, man, i m going to run out right now. carley: chef, thank you very much. have great day. thank you. you too. carley: sounds delicious. fox & friends starts right now. have a great day. steve: all right. thank you, carley and todd. welcome aboard, folks. #:00 in new york city. monday, june 10th already, and this is fox & friends. bed it all on red. trump rallies voters in sin city, vegas. feeling confident about the production chances out there in november. now we have a lot of democrats coming over, because really we are the party of common sense. we are a party of common sense. ainsley: plus all rise. hunter biden s federal gun trial resumes today at 8:15. will he take the stand? gregg jarrett weighs in just ahead. brian: going to talk on a raging bull. lawrence: a rodeo spirals out of control. brian: where are the clowns? shouldn t clowns be stopping that? lawrence: they jump in the stands. brian: don t make excuses. if you are running clown you got to stop them. that bull was running from the clown. some people are scared of clowns. ainsley: people were really injured though, weren t they? steve: going to find out. brian: i can t wait it s a cliffhanger. nothing happens until i read the tease. you guys can t do anything unless i read. lawrence: you have the power. steve: please read. brian: fox & friends begins right now, remember mornings are better with friends. get dressed. steve: okay. meanwhile, folks, let s start with this former president donald trump hit las vegas yesterday to hold his first campaign rally since his new york city criminal conviction. ainsley: and is he looking to continue building support in nevada with a key swing state primaries set for tomorrow. brian: is he up in almost all the polls there madeleine rivera joins us now. maddie? good morning, guys. capped off his western swing after raising millions of dollars in california he rallied voters in the sweltering heat railing against his conviction and touting his poll numbers in nevada. they indicted me over nothing. they opened up a whole new box and then i got indicted again and again and again. i i was never indicted. in this tiny period of time i was like a ping-pong pal o. is ball. fox news poll show donald trump meeting trump in a head-to-head matchup. in the margin of error. won t charge taxes on tips which is a major source of income for the las vegas. the colorado union represents the 60,000 hospitality workers says really is needed but that nevada workers know the difference between real solutions and wild campaign promises. trump also denounced the border policies particularly important issue for voters in the state. and though he didn t mention it on stage, trump went on x to endorse sam brown the leading candidate in the g.o.p. senate primary race. trump called the purple heart recipient a fearless american patriot who has pure grit and courage to take on enemies both foreign and domestic. the winner of the race will take on i object couple bent democratic senator jacqui rosen in november. lawrence, steve, ainsley and brian. steve: all right, madeleine, thank you very much. ainsley: no tax on tips is huge. i was in the service industry. imagine not having to pay taxes on your tips. steve: absolutely. that is great. particularly given the fact that the culinary union is so big out there. i just looked it up. any change in tip taxes would require an october 6 conditioning. the plan would be for donald trump when elected he would ask congress to do something about it. keep in mind one of the top things they got to do next year. the donald trump tax cuts package from 2017 will expire next year and this could be part of it. brian: if you are a member of congress who wants to go against that? i mean, i got to say, i m impressed with the balance of the comedy at his rally as well as actually proposing policy initiatives. because, i think this is something that helps the working class immediately. day bun one. and if you remember the biden administration introduce the those new irs agents to find the pfine thepeople cutting the taxs skipping out with the tips. seeing the contrast between the two campaigns. i think this wins more voters. brian: what a few days he has h he was out in silicon valley. raised $12 million. with people that i didn t think liked him. silicon valley crowd pretty much the one that said we re going to correct what happened in 2016. did better on social media than hillary. do everything possible to destroy you in 2020. and we watched what the twitter files emerge. now you have senator j.d. vance set up a fundraiser out there and goes to newport beach on saturday. thousands lined up on the streets and went n front of 3,000. and then he had this fundraiser. and on the bay. the boats were on the outside of newport. then he goes over to vegas and finishes up and flies home. still a big gap of 36 million between the two campaigns. the president the former president is closing the gap. the big story is, i think that virginia, new hampshire, he is up in deed heat. nevada, and arizona four or five points the president is up. so he has got to feel good about where is he at right now. ainsley: he went after biden s border. he said something that broke a lot of news over the weekend but he said he wants president biden to take a drug test before the debate in about two and a half weeks. he said i will take one. he needs to take one. he said. is he not old. is he incompetent. brian: right. his age is not the problem. lawrence: whether it s the drug test or just explaining to the american people ups and downs of the president. one dain shuffling off the stage can t walk the full route overseas and suddenly able to be jacked up for a state of the union. two days later is he back to the same old same old. i don t know if it s a drug test or just explaining how is the president alert sometimes and sometimes not so much. brian: do with the nfl and major league baseball we find out what drugs he had are on. usually help your performance. why can t we find out the president. ainsley: might just be a mountain dew. red bull. steve: why is there so much pep in his step. lawrence: exactly. steve: maybe on those cheery days maybe the president starts his day watching fox & friends. just saying. brian: looked himself up in the morning. v.p. short list except for more reports about frontrunners, rubio, j.d. vance and governor doug burgum and i also put in some classes some cases tom cotton. i also would say this is pretty clear. he very much likes doug burgum around him. especially when it comes. ainsley: he will definitely get some sort of job. brian: i hear the wives get along. ainsley: so successful a billionaire. self-made man i believe. steve: people are talking about the vice president because, that particular post because last week the former president said maybe i will announce that person, whoever that is at the rnc, which, you know, that makes a lot of sense because then it makes it a little more exciting who will it be. matt joaquin a republican strategist had this to fox news digital talking about the frontrunner behind the scenes. it turns out he says it s marco rubio. describes him this way an effective, disciplined communicator who rarely makes mistakes while demonstrating his ability to win a slightly higher percentage of white voters in 2022 than trump did in florida in 2020. marco rubio also appeals to the suburban and independent voters that will be key to trump s success and is the only contender from a true battleground state. trump would balance out his ticket by picking rubio for vice president which cannot be said from some of the other options these reasons is why many fear the selection of marco rubio the most. and do you know what? going back to new hampshire primary i heard from some of the top insiders marco rubio was their favorite. one of the reasons is first of all he is one of those guys who could be president on day one. if need be, hispanic, can speak spanish. given the fact that republicans have not had many good answers about abortion. the insiders really like marco rubio s approach to abortion and pro-life. lawrence: he has a few things going for him when it comes to the former president s side. he took a punch from him back in 2016. brian: gave some, too. a lot of video. ainsley: staunch allies. lawrence: he endorsed him over his governor ron desantis at the time. from what i hear the former president doesn t look too kindly of the people who decided to challenge him in this past election because he thought it was a forgone conclusion. the second thing is, he defends him on all the sunday shows. and is he not just defending him. he does it effectively. he punches back. they try to get him on his heels and he doesn t get on those heels much often also foreign policy. elephant in the room he is hispanic. second minority group that the democrats are concerned about, whether it s black voters is hispanic voters. he has a lot going for him but one thing totally right now is to steve s point. he can be president. and we would love to see him go against kamala harris in a debate. ainsley: he would have to move to washington, d.c. he is a senator. so he could do that because you can t have a vp and president. steve: from the same state. ainsley: only one on that list that speaks a second language. he would reach the hispanic voters. is he a familiar face. one g.o.p. strategist who was anonymous said in an article said strongest voice in the senate for the american first agenda. is he excellent on tv. he never messes up. he says trump latino base and solid safe pick in a lot of upsides. brian: all three of you are wrong on everything. no, i would just say that s true, too. tom cotton is extremely strong. ainsley: is he great. the whole list is good. brian: he could be secretary of defense. burgum number two or energy. all be in there tim scott really strong. tim scott is doing something else that j.d. vance is doing. formed a super pac. trying to tie up the black vote. actually raising money with a super pac for trump. so i think that also adds a lot. people are sincerely on board in 2016 they weren t. in 202024 president has machine going. ainsley: byron donds is on the list. is he strong. steve: also florida, that s a problem. he is going to have a future in politics. steve: one other note about marco rubio. because he and the president are florida residents. they have behind the scenes worked out a plan where he could he could go to another state. could be a battleground state where marco rubio moved to i m not going to say two states i heard but he would help put those in the trump column. brian: do you want senate race. j.d. vance had a very tough race fill to see the. do you want to open up a ohio race? do you want to open up a florida race? steve: he is on the show today. lawrence: i will say a final point there was all this talk about confusion within the republican party. it looks like nikki haley, to other folks that challenged. the parties is coming together. so, again, the process worked. people got challenged. brian: i do think nikki haley s people have got to be addressed. she getting a lot of votes in every state still. i think they should come forward. the other thing is j.d. vance s foreign policy scares me. very smart. i appreciate his service. he tends to go isolationist. i don t think that s what we need as a country. steve: all right. meanwhile, let s talk, brian something we need as a country. we need a strong border. brian: some would say. steve: we haven t had it for a while. of course now the president is taking executive action. he has got crazy numbers. nobody quite understands what they are doing. it still seems like thousands are coming across every day. the department of homeland security secretary mayorkas was on with martha raddatz yesterday and essentially mayorkas was kind of taking a victory lap where it s like, hey, finally we are taking action because republicans wouldn t do anything. martha called him on it. listen to this. i want to go back to an interview i did with you in march 2021, two months into your tenure as dhs secretary. you seemed totally confident then that you that under control. let s listen to what you told me. we have seen large numbers of migration in the past. we know how to address it. we have a plan. we are executing on our plan. and we will succeed. one thing that is also clear it takes time. it s tough. but we can do it. this is what we do and we will accomplish our mission. we will succeed. three years ago. since then 6.5 million migrants have been apprehended along the southern border. it would be very hard to call this a success. martha, remember something that immigration, migration is a dynamic phenomenon. it is something that we alone are it s not just us who is experiencing it. throughout the region and throughout the world. brian: they are all fed up. they know he has been flat out lying the whole time. they know the reversal of the exordz did on the president. lack of enforcement even when title 42 was in place. now they want to blame the legislation. do you remember the genesis of the legislation that was bipartisan led by senator lankford on the right. he wanted foreign aid money. the republicans came back and said yeah, you want foreign aid money, first, do the border. they started negotiating. if it wasn t for the reluctance of republicans to sign off on the foreign aid money and putting the border in there, the president had no interest in legislation. even the legislation that he put out there in year one. he never talked about it. he had a republican. he had a democratic senate. and democratic house. he evidently put out his border policy legislation. no one even looked at it. and his own party didn t want it. lawrence: i got to be honest. i know why we cover this of another network finally pushing back. but it s really knowing that we have to celebrate them doing the bear minimum. i mean, they have four years of numbers to reflect on each year it s gone up. and they don t push the administration on it. they wait until elections year where all the toll polls are showing the tone of the person people have changed. then they start pushing back. i hope that in the future some of these reporters do this along the journey instead of waiting until the issue has reached the height, 10 year high i think that s what it is. and hopefully we can get policy changes in the future. can t wait until just election year. ainsley: internal memo from border patrol that was released obtained by fox. it instructs agents in san diego to release single adults from the eastern hemisphere countries. most of the eastern hemisphere countries. they are considered hard or very hard to remove. that was after biden s exdetective order. steve: things really aren t changing much. brian: 62% of the country in support of mass deportation. keep putting down trump s idea. 63%. that s how much has changed. lawrence: from democratic and independent voters. hunter biden s gun trial continues this morning at 8:15 owner. 15eastern. we are waiting to see if the defense calls the first son to testify. ainsley: rich edson outside the courthouse in wilmington, delaware. hey,rich, what s the latest? good morning. on friday lead defense attorney abbe lowell overheard saying he was going to take the weekend to decide if hunter biden was going to get called to the stand. that answer is due in a couple of hours when court reconvenes here. i will figure out if we are going to see hunter take the stand. if he does not. decides against taking the stand. this could all happen very, very quickly. we could get into closing arguments and jury deliberations by this afternoon. if hunter does testify, prosecutors have indicated they may put on rebuttal witnesses, that would extend this trial further. last week and it was the defense calling hunter s daughter naomi. she delivered emotional testimony about how during the summer of 2018, she said her father was the clearest she had seen him since her uncle beau died in 2015. father used text messages, bank records, ex-girlfriend, sister-in-law who he was in a relationship with to paint a picture of rampant drug use when he purchased and possessed that firearm and allegedly swore on a form that he was not a drug user. hunter s lawyer have drawn testimony that dunn actually saw him use crack in october 2018 those the month he bought the firearm. the prosecution introduced text messages, one the day after he bought that gun. hohallie biden his sister-in-law meeting a dealer named mookie. day after that he texted hallie he was smoking crack. hunter s attorneys maintain he may not have wanted hallie to know where he was so he lied to her over texts. introduced that infamous laptop into evidence. fbi agent testified that it did not appear to be tampered with after hunter dropped it off at computer repair shop. all that last week. see where this heads in a couple hours from now and whether hunter biden or any other witnesses for the defense will take the stand. back to you. steve: it s a deliver langer. thank you very much. we know either today hunter is going to take the stand or not. and we could have closing arguments. we know that jill biden is probably going to be in the courtroom. because she remember, she flew from france to be in the courtroom on friday and then flew back to france for that state dinner. but, the curious thing, the x-factor is this. joe biden, the president is in delaware today. which makes no sense. he flew from france to delaware. ainsley: what are you saying? steve: here s the thing he has a juneteenth concert tonight at the white house. why did he go to delaware today? can you imagine if the president of the united states sat in the courtroom during closing arguments today? would that have an impact on the jury? ainsley: does he have anything on the calendar? steve: not one thing, ainsley. not one thing. lawrence: do you think it would be appropriate, steve for him to do that? steve: it s his son. with yeah, why not? but obviously this is a message that will be sent to the jury. ainsley: the president of the united states and first lady walk into his son s trial. steve: right. ainsley: and jury sees them that s pretty powerful. steve: think about it. she has been doing every day so secret service knows how that room works. it s secure. lawrence: the special counsel, the president is still his boss in theory the president can fire the special counsel. we just got take all of that. son and boss. brian: politically he doesn t benefit from it. steve: no. brian: we will see. turn to ainsley you have something special to read out loud. the u.s. is calling for the u.n. security council to vote or the proposed gaza cease-fire deal that s currently on the table. it comes after long time israeli war cabinet member benny gantz unexpectedly resigned from his position yesterday. meanwhile, have a democratic video released by the idf shows the moment israeli troops were able to secure two hostages in that daring helicopter rescue out of gaza over the weekend. gary congressman mike collins revealing one of his staffers and a friend were attacked in washington, d.c. over the weekend. he says the suspect stole a watch. collins says in mart pour nation s capital a war zone because of pro-criminal policies pedaled by d.c. s government. police posting this photo of the suspect s car saying they believe it was involved in several armed robberies across the city. wnba star caitlin clark is taking the high rode after she was snubbed from the team u.s.a. s olympic basketball roster. no disappointment. gives you something to work for. you know, it s a dream. hopefully one day i can be there. i think it s a little more motivation. you remember that. and you know, hopefully in four years, when four years comes back around i can be there. ainsley: clark says team officials told her about the decision before the news got out. four people were hurt when a bull broke loose and jumped into the stands during a rodeo in oregon on saturday. take a look. oh. oh my god. open the gate. open the gate. officials say the bull walls heading back to holding pen when it made a beeline for the fence leaping over the crowd. handlers were able to get things back over control in a few minutes. incredibly everyone is expected to be okay. all right. so they were injured but they are going to be fine. steve: well, who knew that a bull could jump like that. lawrence: that happens occasionally. i m just curious what brian, as a yankee would do is if something. brian: i would look for a child to hold up in front of me no, i m kidding. i would definitely put my hand up. wait for him to come to me, grab him around the head and try to hold him until some clown could bail me out. lawrence: brian, do you know what color not to wear at a rodeo? brian: would it be red? lawrence: very good. brian: that s why i m not a bulls fan. ainsley: have you all been to cabo. there was that bull that was loose on the beach. the lady was not wearing red. trying to feed the bull and it attacked her. steve: keep in mind. there are tens of thousands of people every year who go to papatch leona spain to run in front of the bull wear the rednecker chiefs. brian: if i could quote the president, don t. [laughter] steve: it doesn t work. brian: meanwhile, president biden, once again, mixing up two very different countries. i mean the idea we had wait all those months just to get the money for iraq? brian: congressman ryan. lawrence: congress ryan zinke. brian: sorry. ainsley: brian, don t. brian: don t. nice to see you, congressman. mr. secretary. i get around (male vo) kate made progress with her mental health, but her medication caused unintentional movements in her face, hands, and feet called tardive dyskinesia, or td. so her doctor prescribed austedo xr a once-daily td treatment for adults. as you go with austedo austedo xr significantly reduced kate s td movements. some people saw a response as early as 2 weeks. with austedo xr, kate can stay on her mental health meds (kate) oh, hi buddy! 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you are not even talking conservative? and do what you say you are going to do. a promise made should be a promise kept. in the white house, when i walked. in steve bannon had an office just off the side there was a long list of things that president trump promised during the campaign. and this huge whiteboard was there and every time the president would accomplish one, that went off the board and this is what we are working on. and what you are seeing in this article yeah, we want a secure border. you know what he? also understands service industry. he says, you know what? let s not tax service industry tips. he gets it. if you are in the service industry. look, it s tough. not taxing tips. yeah, this is exactly what we need to do. common sense. you know, to feed the economy. brian: just so interesting because he ran in 2016 and 2020. the issues are coming full circle. when he is talking about law and order. putting federal troops into poorltd and talking about some of the unrest in the streets. like what are you doing you? are crazy. now they are saying coming. at the border, of course we need build a wall. of course we need control. of course we don t want 8 million people here that we don t know. and of course we want to have a strong military. it s rather than what do conservatives and liberals think. why like bill maher and jon stewart said what happened to logic and james carville, too. other thing i want to bring up foreign policy, you fight wars as well as representatives now in congress. the 39 of the united states overseas, went after republicans. which many presidents never would do. but here s what he said and here s what he got confused. the idea that we have become semiisolationists now that some are talking about. the idea we had to wait all those months just to get the money for iraq and because we i mean, it just it s just it s not who we are. it s not who america is. brian: see iraq and iran. very rare iraq and ukraine. when you talk about isolationism. you talk about the biden administration. start with afghanistan. no plan in ukraine. $130 billion, we have no plan. israel on fire. first time that direct strike from iran. we are talking icbm launch. direct strike. we do nothing but shoot them down. and of course you had isolationists our allies don t trust us and our enemies don t fear us. that isolates the u.s. brian: you guys wrote a check for $65 billion and you said get them equipment. did you that. none of the equipment has arrived. he wants to focus on the delay in congress. that s fine. that ship has sailed. the real issue is where s the stuff? where is the training of the f-16 pilots? where are the f 16s? it s been a year and a half. how long does it take to deliver something that was on pallets ready do go. and withholds ammunition from israel. still doing it. right? it is willful or incompetence, i m thinking it s a little bit of both. look at our foreign policy in the middle east. and this administration, many of them were obama retreads, have an affinity towards iran. it s almost at the state department has been compromised. because inside there is this sympathy and support of iran from the sanctions and now this action. i think america is figuring it out. brian: many people at the state department don t like the country. that s been the case for a long time. congressman, i will talk to you more on radio if that s okay. i look forward to it. brian: good to see you and good luck with your re-election. ryan zinke.com and five seals in congress we are going to get seven. brian: let s see it. congressman, thank you so much. go over to carley who i know you are a fan of. carley: i m fan of his and yours, too brian. brian: thank you. carley: more news to get. to say happening today, officials are surveying the now fully cleared shipping channel at the site where the francis scott key bridge collapsed. they will be inspecting under the water to make sure it s safe for the channels to reopen. operations started about an hour ago after it reopens crews will still be working to remove more debris from outside the channel throughout the month. it s a huge job ongoing now. home surveillance video capturing a fire spreading close to a home in cots dale, arizona. look at that this happened before firefighters were age to put it out. the homens owner says she was watching the live feed in horror after flames sparked in a neighboring to move towards her house. firefighters put out the blaze after neighbors tried extinguishing it themselves. officials say the fire was accidently sparked by nearby construction workers who were putting up a fence. friends and colleagues of jailed wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich gathering in brooklyn yesterday, holding a barbecue to raise awareness of his 14 months in russian prison. great reporter, great friends. and he should be here barbecuing with us right now. evan loves mixing different groups of people. that s what we have done here. we have the wall street journal reporters, we have friends of evan s from high school and college. just to keep him just spare a thought for him because it s going to be a tough summer for him in prison. and we want people to and we wanted him to know that people are rooting for him. carley: gershkovich is scheduled to appear back in russian court at the end of this month. those are the headlines, brian, over to you. brian: if president trump wins is he going to make that a priority he said. thank you so much. hunter biden s federal gun trial resumes we will wait to see if he actually takes the stand. gregg jarrett on the impact that will have. that s his picture. 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dr. siegel: sealing this an education week survey as you showed it s frightening. the word listening, sharing, socialization. can you imagine of a kid and we are talking about kids from pre-k up to 3rd grade don t know how to listen and the vast majority of teachers, that s how you learn is by listening. and this is really disturbing. now, the cdc has also shown that we are at 11% of kids with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, ainsley. all-time high. you said what do you do about it. you are already doing it with your daughter. let me tell you what do you about it. you make it family-based. you take it out of the classroom and back into the family and you try to limit the amount of screen time and social media use and internet use that your kids have. because, other surveys show and other studies show it s directly correlated with anxiety and the inability to learn. ainsley: yeah. have you seen a difference in what children are faced with nowadays? i feel like every parent is worried we are all hiring tutors to help our kids in second and third grade. we are trying to give them i remember one teacher told me if you want your child to listen more. you need to give them a 1, 2, 3, like brush your honor teeth, go be pick out your books, put on your pajamas, like they are good with a list. i feel like our parents never worried about this kind of thing. they let us grow up. that s really a good point. that s a really good lesson you just said how you have to get back to basics with your kids. do you know why? it isn t just schools the way i just said. it s also that during the pandemic, over 3 years. kids were isolated. and they were on their iphones at a very young age. i mean before the age of five. and they were home and they were shut down our schools were closed. so the basics play time. i think you learn more in play time by the way than you actually learn sitting in a class sometimes. that was shut down. there wasn t physical education. that was shut down. fear of spreading the virus. when it comes to public health. have you got to look at the consequences and the costs of what you are doing. we saw this happening early on. kids wearing masks can t read other kids faces. can t read the teachers faces. you are right. you have to get back to basics with your child. and you have to be calm and soothing and caring and loving and love will get us through. this we have a long way to go. we have to overcome math and reading scores are way down as well. ainsley: i know. math has dropped 7 points after the pandemic and reading dropped 5 points after the pandemic. dr. siegel, thank you so much. dr. siegel: great to see you, ainsley. ainsley: you too. let s throw it over to carley she had a business addition of fox and trends. carley: scenes like this are apparently becoming more common in the workplace. i m saying pam. i m sorry, who is this gentleman sitting behind you. hello, misled. i m dale, i m vernon s stepbrother. i think i might be able to help with the panel, pam dilemma. carley: that will be great. a quarter of gen z job seekers are involving their parents in the interview process. 31% had a parent join them for their in person interview. if you believe that. 29% had them join a virtual interview. there is also this, blue collar workers are going viral. the wall street journal says it s because, quote: gen z plumbers and construction workers are making blue collar cool. in today s episode we got a little kitchen going on. and i felt the sense of drano and fish sauce hit my nostrils. trend setter, league of my own it don t get better. carley: i get it. according to the wall street journal, there were more than half a million posts using #blue collar on tiktok in just the first four months of this year. 64% increase compared to 2023. blue collar is cool, guys. steve: that s right. and somewhere mike rowe is saying i told you that. carley: yeah, right? steve: thing about these people are show thawing can actually do stuff if you put your phone down for one minute. carley: only thing about that is you put the phone down to do this stuff but you are recording the thing you are doing on your phone. so the phone is still a part of it. but i also think that a reason why this blue collar is cool shows real america. people are into it. lawrence: also, you don t have to go to college and you don t need all that debt and we don t have to pay for it. carley: not paying a student loan so cool. ainsley: become the electrician you own the company. lawrence: pass it down to your kids. ainsley: your name is on the truck. brian: i would love a situation where you do both. you learn a trade and you go to school. i would love to see both. ainsley: i agree with that i like a college education. brian: fix something. steve: learn a lot today on fox & friends. look who coming ahead. stay with us, folks. brian: yeah. they look nice. really nice i can guarantee the smooth writing, longest lasting pilot g2 has long been the hero of gel ink pens. and what hero doesn t have a dark side? 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pain, he made a big promise, will get rid of taxes for service workers who make tips. a new fox poll showing trump is leading biden in the batter and today trump said if he wins nevada, we will win the whole thing. fox news senior correspondent alicia acuna is live near the las vegas strip, what you got? really good to see you, former president trump when he was in california he raced 33 and half million dollars from private fundraisers, then he came to las vegas and made news when he made this campaign promise. this is the first time i ve said this, for those hotel workers and people to get tips gear going to be very happy. because when i get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips. people making tips. it has been a point of attention for years and years and you do a great job of service, you take care of people. i think it s going to be something that is really deserved. more popular or unpopular i do some unpopular things they do what s right. the culinary union which represents 60000 hospitality workers issued a statement reading relief is definitely needed for tip earners, nevada workers are smart enough to know the difference and real solution while campaign promises from a convicted felon. during his western state swing, trump has also continued to hammer president biden s executive action to curb the number of seeking asylum. or could joe signed an executive order that is pro-invasion, pro-child trafficking, pro-women trafficking, pro-human trafficking and pro-drug dealers, it s a pro drug dealer bill this week, it s ineffective it s not what he believes signed. what he signed means nothing. in fact it makes it easier in my opinion it opens the border further. if joe biden truly wanted to signed an executive order to stop the invasion, right now all he needs to do is say i hereby immediately reinstate every single border policy of a gentleman named donald j trump. from here trump heads back to mar-a-lago. joey: thank you. cheryl, i want to go to this first, trump is leading nevada by five points, that is the smart math, seven-point swing out of the outcome from 2020 where he lost to 48%, there is a big swing and he goes out there today and says listen. i m going to take away the tax on people earning their living through tips, carry cash just so i can tip in cash hopes they don t have the claimant. is that something that will resonate beyond the unions. cheryl: absolutely especially in a place like nevada that s a major service sector area that is tourism, the casinos, the convention center. absolutely that message is going to resonate in a place like that state. if you look at the other cases of the poll that we did, as far as feeling bad about their finances four times as many in the state of nevada say they re falling behind financially, that is 49% falling behind financially, 13% say they re getting ahead whether housing, taxes, the fact that the inflation is hitting them in the pocketbooks, all of those messages at the end of the day resonate not just in that state but across the country it is obvious. joey: seems like they would designate regardless of your partisan lien, more money in your pocket, that seems like a good idea. trump had more things to say about his opponent, not just the border policy was a bad idea that biden just sighed, this is what he had to say about this coming up with the debate were going to have. remember when joe said it s great to be in idaho and he was in iowa, he always does that. if i ever did that that would be over they would say that the end of his political career, he is cognitively impaired. we had a second test, i aced both of them, not easy days. biden should have a cognitive test, number one. they say it s unconstitutional, that s a good excuse. he should have a cognitive test, before the debate in two weeks he should take a drug test because i m willing to take one. joey: what do you think about that charlie? charlie: this is a good reminder of how unpredictable trump is and how entertaining he is on the stump, you know that his decision to announce the thing about tips was not something on his focus group or a ten-point plan that his economic team came up with. he realized the value of it and jumped on it. the fact that the service unions had to put out a statement so quickly is evidence of how effective the plank could be. once again, as we ve seen with a lot of the other unions shows the division between the union s leadership themselves and their members. their members are going to love this, the members don t care what their unions. joey: we say that a lot with republican candidate is especially trump, were there blue-collar work conservatives one of the topics in las vegas was immigration and not every democrat believes or is willing to acknowledge trump s immigration policy was successful, this is what chris coons had to say today. former president trump tried his gimmicks like building a border wall and is now threatening to nationalize and to federalize the national guard and use it to deport tens of millions of people already here in the united states. the difference between trump s approaching biden s approach is one of cruelty versus effectiveness. joey: let s look at this pull, this has 62% of respondents favor trump on the border to where 38 oppose, if you like democrats are off-base on this. molly: president trump, as we were talking about doing things that voters are appealing to like tips and place in las vegas nevada that cares about tourism, woody s going after this particular issue is something a lot of voters are paying attention to, they deeply deeply care about and is across the broad spectrum, what are the challenges the nevada this is for the new york times, to a mr, his weakness with hispanic voters and pessimism over handling the economy and seeing that in that particular state, pretty challenging thing. there has uppity gop nominates since george w. bush, once again this is president trump stepping into an area that isn t traditionally an area where he could win when biden one over two percentage points is definitely a battleground inward making a stop. joey: one of the calculation will be the ticket, who is going to run with him. the beefsteak succeeding up, for people that are rumored to be on the shortlist in the new york times is taking aim at one of them. north dakota governor doug burgum the liberal newspaper put out two stories a day about program, the governor fire back on the attacks of his energy policies earlier on fox & friends weekend. what were doing in north dakota is innovation not regulation. innovation is the way were going to solve any problem and part of the reason why the donors are pouring out in silicon valley, they all understand for the new things that are coming that we need for us to maintain american dominance in our economy around the world like crypto and artificial intelligence. these are huge consumers of electricity in joe biden s energy policy where we do see the amount of baseload in our country, destabilizing the grid raising the prices for america americans. joey: seems intelligent on the topic and what americans want. north dakota has become one of the most important energy producers on the planet and the united states and all of that is because american intervention, what is great here you know that virgo is probably a serious contender because new york times is attacking him and he can wear that as a badge of honor. joey: they invoked his green energy policy but they invoked were he invoked in response to silicon valley starting to support their policies. is doug burgum the kind of guy that can get wall street in silicon valley alike behind the trump. cheryl: absolutely and some of the things with a.i., that goes to why donald trump raised about $13 million in san francisco last week, blue san francisco. he has silicon valley behind him. i will also say as far as his energy policy he s a winner when one is come to north dakota carbon credits, the oil industry in the gas industry has been talking about that, how do you offset your environmental footprint, that is something that can be bipartisan but also economically strong and has been in a state like north dakota. he is very well-liked in that state. joey: we saw the list of candidates for vp we have jd vance, tim scott, right here we have a montage or a video that shows a reaction to some of this. there s no question i think we have an amazing talented republican party and a great bench. what we need to make sure that we do, have people who are ready to take this to the mat. we are conversations with the trump team but i m not spoke about the vice presidential thing with the president directly and until i do is to be this is a lot of media speculation i would help donald trump get elected because it s important he becomes an ex-president. i think only one person knows who s on the shortlist and that would be president trump. joey: in the last minutes we heard four of the veep stakes candidates, through the montage, they re all very tightlipped, none of them will admit, jd vance says he hasn t talked to trump about it at all. they tried to go after tom cotton, have you filled out any documents, give me a hint, this is donald trump. we do not know what s going to happen we don t know if that ll expand, shrink, it ll be 70 that nobody is even thinking about. i would be hesitant to place a bet, that is for sure, that is what are the things going to vegas is raising money out there. joey: the one thing he s doing, all of the contenders are hot on the trail right now. i would and onto either because of trying to earn it and do him favors and even elise stefanik was strong this weekend, we have a big hour still ahead on the big weekend show including this. he got shot down in new guinea and they never found the body because there were a lot of camels for real and not part of the county. joey: biden connects is cannibal 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welcome back to the big weekend show , president biden is on his way back from france but his trip was filled with gaffes even the when the white house had to correct. peter doocy is in paris tonight. good evening from paris were president biden made a big mistake today, he got the country and the united states committed another $225 million to ukraine mixed up with iraq. that we become semi-isolationist now which some are talking about. the idea that we had to wait all of those months just to get the money from iraq, it s not who we are. it s not who america is. a white house stenographer pointed out the presidents mistake and corrected it and the official transcript already released. here s the thing this is not the first time this is happened. it s hard to tell with the word home in the war in iraq and around the world. president biden visited today the one that trump skipped as president. the atlantic magazine time claimed he also called the war dead dockers and losers, trump denies this. it is a story biden tells all of the time except today. you criticize president trump for not coming on this trip, what message are you sending the voters by being here right now? any other questions. visited biden has to be back here in western europe midweek, it s unclear why he and the first lady flew back to delaware tonight. molly: great question, i wonder what s going on in delaware. remember when biden claimed his uncle was eaten by cannibals, he brought up his famous uncle as biden wrapped up his visit today. i don t want to make this personal but every time i show up at a military site where veterans are buried, it brings back memories of hearing my grandfather my mother talk about the loss of their son and brother in the south pacific and i think about my son beau after a year in iraq. the claim that he made a few months ago is now being fact check by the new york times. they called and bows he, a hell of an athlete until he was a kid and he became the army air corps before the army came along this single engine planes over war zones, got shu shot down inw guinea and they never found the body because there were a lot of cannibals for real and not part of new guinea. cannibals, joey, what a detail. joey: the best part was immediately new guinea came out with a statement saying this is racist and horrible thing to say about us. on top of that the pentagon came out and said there s no record of that. you want to laugh at it but if he s willing to go that far to make up a story about cannibals to connect himself to world war ii and take a step back, look at the soundbite right before that he says every time he goes to a military graveyard to honor those that were falling in line of duty, he things about his son who spent a year in iraq. the reason he brings atopy was to convince people that his son was killed in combat, he brings that up in his cross the line before his son tragically died from cancer, there is no proof that that was connected to anything and it really does bother me, it upsets me that he s willing to take the tragedies within his own family and pastor dies them so he can score some weird political points was certain demographics. molly: on the subject on his uncle who passed during the war, papa new guinea s leader as you mentioned came forward with this story was told back in april, this is not the first time that the president has talked about his uncle. biden does love to tell stories, sometimes he tries to connect with whatever crowd he is talking in front of so we cut them down to size, this from the new york times article, his suggestion that mr. finnigan was shot down and cannibalized in new guinea is not supported by military records or anthropologist, mr. finnigan would ve been an unlikely victim of cannibalism in new guinea, studies of cannibalism in the country have noted that victims tend to be from enemies from warring tribes and active revenge or deceased relatives as part of a morning ritual, rather creative tactic that is taking or telling the particular story, that is the new york times calling them out as people and by the way to be clear, the pentagon has said he was a passenger on aircraft that crashed into the ocean on the north course of new guinea in may 1944, the engines on aircraft failed, three men including mr. biden s uncle lost in that. i would go with the pentagon s version of events and not president biden s version of events. i don t understand why the white house press officer, somebody s advisors, he has been fact checked over and over, the fire at the delaware home he goes on to talk about they almost died and we almost lost our house it was terrific, it was a small kitchen fire. his been repeatedly debunked fire officials in the town said it is not what happened. somebody needs to stop him. all this does is make him look bad and i m a little nervous about what is going to say and do at the g7. we solve these gaffes during the d-day celebration. that is one issue but world leaders, the world stage, the business of our country at the g7 i am a little nervous. molly: that raises a great point, the mix up of the country names is also happened before but i want to bring you in here before we run out of time, the storytelling and the mixups. charlie: anytime you have to bring an anthropologist to a political story you are probably in deep trouble, the greatest honor that he could do for uncle posey would to get the story right until the correct story. i love it when the new york times decides to weigh in and do a fact check of joe biden and they say the story that biden makes up, these are a way for him to connect with voters and emphasize the middle class joe persona and charm the audience, what i would love is for the new york times to find a member of the audience who is charmed by these stories or to find anyone other than the media itself who thinks that joe biden is somehow a middle class joe kind of guy, that is a lie that the biden campaign has perpetrated in the media picks up. molly: the swanky digs with amenities in a café in the gym that the homeless will be getting in los angeles, will this all the homeless crisis? 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cheryl: that would hurt the academy and also the taxpayers. that s the thing about california, they lead the nation when it comes to one-way moves out of the state. the tax base is shrinking, newsom is sitting on a 45 million-dollar budget deficit. he now wants to cut money from the prison system, cut money from law enforcement and the courts. but let s build a tower skews and prime l.a. property, $600,000 is the unit cost for each of these, each of the tower, you cannot tell me that that makes fiscal sense because it does not. they are desperate, desperate, it s good to be more taxes, it could be worse for the taxpayer. charlie: if you re a young person trying to get in the housing market that would make it the climb steeper to get into the housing market. look at some of the things that they re going to talk about defending the police, they say were not really in favor of defunding the police, yes they are they want to cut $97 million to child court operation 80 million from the department of correction, 10 million from d.o.j. vision of law enforcement, is going to make quality-of-life in l.a. better? joey: the libertarian in me wants to say some are not too bad kept the federal spending in the federal pork but these are also part of the government that are constitutional protection of our rights as citizens we have a right to go to court and defend ourselves and our proper representation and have proper adjudication of things that we are concerned about. if you start cutting the courts, the ripple effect of how people s lives are rocked, look at what president trump is going to if his conviction is appealed he s an innocent man. what if there were the resources that hangs over for ten years instead of two, put yourself in that situation in a state like california where they have a ban on everything it a code against everything and you have to argue to live your life freely. charlie: last week gavin newsom was boasting california has more fortune 500 companies than any state in the country even if as it s impossible for the lower the income the worse it is for people in california. molly: not just in california but the big cities, chicago, boston, housing affordability issue. it is not just the people at the very bottom, the homeless that needs a place to live, it s well above that, you talked about young couples, citywide living close to the poverty line, they cannot afford a home. this is an issue for cities, they have been trying to work and address this. the crisis with the migrants coming in, this is affecting cities, city budget and this is among the creative things that cities and states are doing to house migrants but in boston and massachusetts, the baystate correctional center, an old present is expected to be open later this month to migrants to house hundreds of people. the creativity is going in all directions and many of the states are suffering. charlie: that s important point, as young voters go to the polls this year, they should remember when you bring in 6 million illegals and you put them in free housing all over the country, do you know what that s going to do you do your housing prices? cheryl: the number one issue is for gen z he is housing affordability or lack thereof, nine out of ten of gen z the voters say that it. molly: and what are the reasons are clean cities. charlie: coming about the big weekend show , dramatic new video shows the idf s heroic rescue, four hostages from hamas in the media how did outrageous reaction to the rescue. that is next. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. before my doctor and i chose breztri for my copd, i had bad days. 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israeli hostages for being held by hamas since october 7. one of the hostages, noah argo moni is revealing the horrors of being held captive by hamas, she said she thought she was going to die four times in hamas dressed her as a palestinian woman to move her from house to house, this is an image of the room where she was held in a terrorist home, fox news correspondent trey yingst had an update on the deering rescue from tel aviv tonight. good evening a significant development out of israel tonight as were cabinet members benny and resigned from the government. is a major blow to benjamin netanyahu who can still say empower but will be more reliant on far right ministers in his coalition. the development comes as we have good news to report, for former israeli hostages are now home, they were rescued yesterday morning in a complex multipart operation in central gaza, reports indicate special forces storm two buildings in the new refugee camp, there they were engaged in firefights with thomas cadman. ultimately completed the mission. this was a high risk mission based on precise intelligence conducted in daylight. in two separate buildings, deep inside of gaza. while under fire inside the buildings, under fire on the way out from gaza, armed forces rescued our hostages. one officer was killed in the fight against hamas during the rescue message that brought the hostages home. in the tel aviv hostages reunited with loved ones, even received a visit from the country s prime minister benjamin netanyahu, instead of gaza palestinians comb through the aftermath of the raid, the hamas run palestinian helped ministry said more than 200 people were killed, the majority civilians. with the operation took place, one of the interesting part of the story, american involvement, the new york times reports a team of american hostage recovery officials stationed in israel assisted the israeli military effort to rescue the four captives by providing intelligence and other logistical support. the story illustrates how complex the work can be for the palestinian people death and destruction for the israelis. cheryl: thank you very much, the mainstream media is drawing scrutiny over the way it s reacting to the heroic rescue of the four hamas hostages in gaza. cnn saying the hostages were released when in fact they were rescued, the washington post choosing to highlight the palestinians killed during the operation, saying the mission left scores of palestinians de dead. cheryl: if you want to give cnn the benefit of the doubt, find maybe a mistake, a young producer but it looked like it was pretty deliberate to me. i watched it live. charlie: exactly, you would think if they made a mistake like that it would be something you would correct right away and say i use the wrong word but that was not forthcoming, it s also a much larger pattern of the press here and around the world telling the story from the perspective of hamas which is kind of insane. i think it is interesting news that trey reported on on the u.s. hostage officials participating. wait until the lunatic wing of joe biden s party find that there was u.s. officials advised on this. also in order to get an idea of just how jaundiced much of the reporting on all of this is, noa argamani who was rescued was stained at the home of a gaza journalist. and you want to talk about three way house of mirrors, this is what we dealing with their, unfortunately too many american media file for. cheryl: the other thing, it is hamas we have a hard time believing what they tell us to civilian casualties, this is them telling us how many people died, yes people in gaza are dying, absolutely. but the numbers is something else but the washington post picks right up on that. joey: is an easy way to stop people dying, give up the hostages. no one on the left says that because it s easier to point to israel because of the military power over hamas but that does not make sense, one single say about the separation the most famous and executed and high-stakes and high-stakes that we ve ever done is bin laden raid. without a planet in technology that the united states has, years of intelligence data and we lost a helicopter, it turned organized chaos is what combat is. everything that you train for full the minute you get off the bird, get off the boat or get out of the vehicle. that s the way combat happens. i m very impressed by this. but they would not of had the opportunity had they not gotten into rafah to begin with in our president said. cheryl: israel lost every respected commander, he died during the raid. i want to get your take on the politics of all of this. the war has been politicized repeatedly in this country, here is what kamala harris said about the rescue. molly: before i began, i want to say a few words about the boarding that i know weighs heavily on all of our hearts on october 7 hamas committed a brutal massacre of 1200 innocent people and objected to a 50 hostages. thankfully four of the hostages were reunited tonight and we mourn all of them innocent lives that are been lost in gaza and those tragically killed today. both sides of the issue. molly: also jake sullivan said we know innocent people were tragically killed in this operation he told cnn state of the union on sunday that is heartbreaking and tragic. the gaza health ministry that cannot be trusted over 200 palestinians were killed. the hostages were held amongst the civilian population which is one of the reasons if you are going to go in there to rescue your hostages, it makes it more challenging to get these people out. this bracket listened they were able to do that. as you mentioned the numbers given out, this is a hero that lost his life as part is this great mission to bring their people home. if the people were not being held there, the deering daytime grades to rescue them would not be necessary. the death toll that the gazan health ministry creates anytime anything s going on that would not be reported either. the hostages were home you have to going to get them. it was heartening to hear that the army could officials offering advice because there are american hostages still being held. cheryl: seven of the hostages have been rescued, seven but to your point a cease-fire possible intellect all of them go. were you to take a quick break, a fragrant trowel of a sports commentator close at caitlin clark s olympics knob. tomorrow, by the way jd vance is going to join fox & friends 8:20 a.m. to talk about trump s big weekend, the fundraising hall in the vp that entered betty, dvr the show if you cannot catch it live. switch to shopify so you can build it better, scale it faster and sell more. much more. take your business to the next stage when you switch to shopify. . charlie: welcome back to the big weekend show wba start caitlin clark finds herself in the middle of another hoops controversy as team usa decides not to center to the olympics. fox news correspondent christina coleman is in los angeles with clark s reaction to the snub. charlie today at practice caitlin clark told reporters she s not disappointed about not making the team she says it s motivation and hopefully for years she can be there, she was very positive about the situation. i know it s a most competitive team in the world and i know i could ve gone either way of me being on the team are not be on the team. i m excited for them. no disappointment, it gives you something to work for, it s a dream, hopefully one day i can be there and a little bit more motivation. fans and sports analysts it criticized to not have clark on the olympic team, considering the wa mva number one draft pick s all-time leading scorer in ncaa division i history and the fastest wba player to reach to a point in 40 assist in the lease history, millions of new fans have tuned into clark s games to watch her compete. you could argue that caitlin clark is the most talked about, discuss, most popular to putting in the seat single most basketball and tabasco player in the world, and you leave off the olympics team, it s not only a showcase for her but the sport in the other wba players who were on the team. how dumb, how brain-dead, how idiotic do the people running this thing have to be. the athletic is reported that these are the 12 players who made the olympic team, nine of the athletes have competed in the olympics before, including brianna stewart and two-time wba mvp. the list indicates veteran players were preferred, the roster was chosen by the women s basque about committee. at some sports analyst note the 22-year-old will likely have more opportunity in the future. charlie: controversial sports commentator tomorrow on chetumal hill posting on x, caitlin clark not being on this year of the big team is a good thing for her. in the span of weeks, she went from playing college ball to becoming a professional to having the grind of a schedule, all multi week break is probably not the worst thing in the world she will eventually make the olympics team. i ve got to say i m not your world s greatest expert on the wba and we have to get to her in a minute but what is the point of having an olympics team if it s not have the best players so you win. molly: you re not the only critic on that level, i certainly am not a sports commentator at all but in usa today kristi brennan saying leaving th caitlin clark off the team is a missed opportunity and that s the idea of the intention that she could ve brought not only the sport but the limbic team and everyone else on the other 15. she s been real classy about this not being her time saying shelby bit back and motivated, she s been class act about the whole thing. charlie: i can honestly tell you i cannot name is single mva wt name but she was classy about it. cheryl: the fever most people can name that. the other thing about caitlin clark, at this point, the commissioner of the wnba needs to sit down until these coaches in these players and off is enough with going after caitlin clark, she s been criticized by the media and she s been criticized by other players, she is the best thing to happen to women s basketball, i would argue, ever and this is a big missed opportunity. it is a shame she did not make the olympics team but i understand, i m an athlete as well but resting her body if she could take a month off now and there will be no wnba games and she can actually heal up, she didn t go from college ball to pro ball, that cannot be easy physically for her. charlie: you re an expert. joey: there are some stats, 13th in scoring in the league she leads in turnovers, her team is 3 - 9 she s won three games so far, she came in a superstar in waiting but she has not met the superstar mantra yet. i don t mind that she s left out but understand this is one aspect of a bigger conversation, the real caitlin clark conversation is how she s been received by the wnba and treated by opponent 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$6250 for each of his 28 years behind bars. from 2016 to 2020, 374 people wrongfully convicted of murder, 61% african-americans, have reunited with their families together they spent over 6000 years in prison. years. years they will never get back. that s all for this edition of dateline. i am craig melvin. thank you for watching. i am craig melvin and this is dateline. leading up to this assign what it was going to be like. i had so many thoughts leading to this assignment as to what it would be like. trying to imagine going down isoad, knowing it s a one- way trip. this moment where you get your last glimpse of the world around you, but that glimpse is through steelman mesh. louisiana highway 66. it s beautiful countryside and undoubtedly not lost on the countless men driven to the place where they will most likely die. that road ends here. the louisiana state penitentiary, a former plantation. the size of manhattan. 28 square miles. most people call it angola named after the african country that was home to the slaves who once worked these very fields. now, angola is the largest maximum-security prison in the country where today, i will be housed with about 5500 men. i am heading into ground zero of mass incarceration. there is a heightened awareness as i walked through here with no guards. for the next couple of days, i will be staying here, exploring key issues of the person reform debate. juveniles sentenced to life without parole. we were children when we got incarcerated. the lasting effect of the war on drugs. the power of rehabilitation. your life is worthwhile. the demand by many for punishment. i think he s where he needs to be. i will stay in a cell to better understand the purpose and experience of prison all from the inside. hello and welcome to dateline. we have all heard the saying, lock him up and throw away the key. critics say that has been our country s approach for crime for two we long. they question whether mass incarceration is keeping a safer and what lengthy prison terms mean for many of the more than 2 million americans behind bars. lester holt spent three days in one of the nation mesquite toughest penitentiary and this is what he witnessed. here is his special report. life inside. life it angola prison is not what you might imagine. the vast majority live like this. more than 80 men and open dorms, sleeping on bunkbeds. i will be staying in a unit next to death row for high risk offenders are in my case, a high-profile guest. we will go down here. my home will be on a tier called ccr a closed cell restriction. the men here are locked in their cells 23 hours a day. i am given sheets, slippers, and toiletries and shown to my cell. cell 11. go in here, please. go ahead and close. naturally, phones are not allowed. all i have is my journal, a pen, a novel, my watch, and am/fm radio. i have cameras around me installed by our crew to record my experience and my thoughts. as journalists, we note to get to the heart of something have to get inside it. the closer you are to something, the more is revealed to you. i soon meet my neighbor, william curtis who is serving a life sentence for second-degree murder. he tells me he is locked in ccr because he has tried to escape multiple times. how far did you get? not very. he s only allowed out one hour a day. do you go out? not very often. the last time was probably four years ago. you haven t seen the sun in four years? i just want to get through the night. take care of yourself. we will be here a couple of days. i quickly learned the falling asleep in prison is challenging. the toilets flush loudly and often. cell to cell chatter that lasts well into the night. my bed is attached to the wall to curtis is so when he moves around, i feel it. the bed is not much for comfort. it s kind of a plastic mattress, but it did the trick. i slept okay. breakfast arrives at 5:30 a.m., delivered by a prisoner. in case you are wondering, it s scrambled eggs, grits and biscuits to the sound of a flushing toilet. no country on earth locks up more of its citizens than the united states. while we make less than 5% of the world s population, we lock up more than 20% of the world s prisoners. politicians, academics, and activists say mass incarceration is an american crisis. we ve gone from $6 billion in spending to $80 billion today. a civil rights lawyer brian stevenson is one of the nation s leading prison reform advocates. we have hundreds of thousands of people in prison who are not a threat. is it about safety or punishment? we created a culture that makes it entirely about punishment. you might be surprised to us thanks mass incarceration is a problem. the people who run louisiana s prison system. nationwide, we lock up people too long and too many of them. smith is the director of operations for louisiana s department of corrections. it s not working and not giving the results it wants. it s costing a lot of money. we key people that their time of danger is over. he says it s time for americans to rethink the purpose of prison from simply punishment to rehabilitation. you say it s about rehabilitation but a lot of americans think it is about punishment. this should be hell. they ve done awful things. we can make somebody worse. plenty of the incarcerated to believe it is just about punishment. another day in the field. watch it make soap scum here. disappear. and sprays can leave grime like that ultra foamy melts it on contact. magic. new ultra foamy magic eraser. 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life. without parole. terry mays shot a man in the neck during a drug deal. you ve been here how many years? 30. like prisons everywhere in america, most inmates get paid pennies per hour. how much do you get paid? two cents an hour. this job is not one of the more desired once? it is the bottom of the barrel. nobody want to be in the field. angola is not like any other maximum-security prison i ve ever been to. all of this is angola. a series of prisons. they call them camps. you are from camp d? yes, sir. today to today we are picking carrots. should i be worried about my safety? well, if use an inmate, most definitely. a majority of the inmates are people of color. in fact, black men in america are six times as likely to be incarcerated as white men. i certainly cannot escape the optics. look around, mostly black men working on a former slave plantation under the watch of armed guards on horseback. it is unsettling to many. i know it s a sensitive subject and it troubled me a little bit. it made me uncomfortable talking to the guys. most of them look like me. african american. the history of this land as a slave plantation. do you see that as an issue? i can see how someone would have an issue with the. every land in louisiana was a slave plantation. growing vegetables, it s something given back to the prison itself. smith said the crops provide the inmate population fresh food but he says it saves taxpayers money. it costs $1.70 a day to feed each offender. this will be the life for many of these men for decades to come. some have left young children behind who are among the 5 million kids in america who have had a parent in prison. jovan t has two of them. you know the way it works. you are in prison, your dad in prison, your kids and children. are you afraid for your children? i definitely am. my father got murdered when i was three years old. i never knew him. it is hard to imagine knowing you will spend the rest of your life here. especially if you are convicted as a teenager. advocates like brian stevenson say juvenile offenders should never be treated the same as an adult. we put thousands of kids and adult jails and start prosecuting the kids and states with no minimum age being tried as an adult. we should never put children and adult jails. what about one commit violent crimes like murder? we were children and we got incarcerated. i m sitting in on a support room support group. they committed crimes before adults and given sentences of life without the possibility of parole. they are called juvenile lifers. i was 16. i was 17. i committed my crime at the age of 16. 2000 juvenile lifers like them and presented a. i was different at 17 then i am at 60 now. at 17, i knew right from wrong. how do you reconcile that? you have to be accountable. there s no excuse for what i did or what any of us done. they tell me they are no longer the boys they once were and are no longer a threat to society. how do i know they are not conning me? when we got the opportunity to show we are different, people could see. in the past few years, they have gotten new hope to make their case for a second chance. what gives you hope? right there. that s our man right there. state of louisiana. montgomery versus state of louisiana is a landmark supreme court ruling named after the oldest and longest serving member of this group. henry montgomery who is 72 years old when i met him. you were 17 years old when your sentence. do you remember what it was like to be 17? yeah. young and stupid. montgomery was indicted for murder in november 1963. the same month jfk was assassinated. he has been at angola for 55 years. i am behind 55 years. technology, i am 150 years behind. in 2012, the u.s. supreme court ruled mandatory life without parole sentences for juveniles are unconstitutional, pointing to science that says it s clear that adolescent brains are not yet fully mature. that ruling did not apply to people like henry montgomery who had already been sent away as a juvenile. that is why montgomery took his case to the supreme court and in 2016, he won. now, all juvenile lifers, no matter how long ago they were locked up can make a case that they deserve parole. mostly older guys over here? this 70-year-old clifford is one of them. i went to see him in the dorm where he lives. this is my bed right here. he has been locked up 61 years. since you have been here we have landed a man on the moon. think about that. there have been a lot of changes. six decades in prison have changed him and thanks to the man sitting next to him, hampton, he will have a chance at freedom. why do you think you deserve parole? i would not say i deserve parole. i would not use that word deserve because i took someone s life. i could say that i have earned parole. and faked, hampton and montgomery will see the parole board the same day and i will be there. how are you feeling? u feeling? lester holt (voiceover): one of the things that struck me while walking around angola was how many men i met who seemed to be focused one of the things that struck onme while walking aroun angola was how many men i met who seemed to be focused on changing their lives. one of them is dalton. i knew i had to do something different than just do time and die in prison. since coming to angola in 2004, he says he has turned his life around by taking advantage of the person s programs. i graduated with a ba, 3.91 average. he earned a masters degree from a bible college. he became an ordained minister. a couple of times a week, gospel raps his former preaching to the population. it is hard to square the man sitting across with me with the horrible crime he committed. your actions caused the death of a baby. yeah. when he was 21, he was watching a stepson. the child was inconsolable. he shook the baby so violently he died. now he is serving a 60 year sentence for manslaughter. how do you move past that? how do you become a different person? at first, i didn t know what i was going to do. it was sickening to my heart that i would have done something like that. prejean said he was filled with anger which had its roots in his childhood. this is a picture of prejean and his father shortly before he was executed in the electric chair in 1990 in this very prison for killing a louisiana state trooper. kids watch television and they are like, your daddy is about to be fried chicken. by me have been the same name, people would call my name, i would put my head down because i was ashamed of what i believed that name had meant. over the years, he said programs at angola helped change him. opportunities that were not available when his father was here and still not available at most prisons across the country. there is a movement to try to provide the rehabilitation that was abandoned. people locked up with nothing to do and we know education is transformative. education and programs have proven to reduce violence inside prison. angola was once known as the bloodiest prison in america. things began to change in the 1990s when the prison began to focus on more than simply locking up people and feeding them. now, in addition to his popular annual inmate rodeo, there are a variety of programs. these men are training service dogs for veterans. there s even a radio station run by incarcerated men. the station that kicks behind the bricks. we give them more freedom depending on your behavior. we have a lot of programs led by other guys serving life sentences. it gives them purpose. it looks like an auto shop. i talked with john, a master mechanic at the prison s auto shop. i did not know how to change a spark plug before he came to prison. he has been incarcerated here since 1988 for killing his wife with a shotgun. even though he was sentenced to life without parole, he mentors nonviolent offenders and a reentry program. when you can come in here and change his life and go back out and stay out, you know you done something. your life is worthwhile. many graduates of the program work in a car dealership outside of new orleans. it turns out his life has been changed as well. 2022, louisiana governor john bell edwards commuted his sentence, making them eligible for parole. he was released in february 2023 after nearly 35 years in prison. but there are other offenders at angola who might never get a second chance. this man, sentenced to more than a lifetime. 150 years. you will hear his dramatic story, next. story, next. and it was the worst day. mom was crying. i was sad. colton: i was diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma. brett: once we got the first initial hit, it was just straight tears, sickness in your stomach, just don t want to get up out of bed. joe: there s always that saying, well, you ve got to look on the bright side of things. tell me what the bright side of childhood cancer is. lakesha: it s a long road. it s hard. but saint jude has gotten us through it. narrator: saint jude children s research hospital works day after day to find cures and save the lives of children with cancer and other life-threatening diseases. thanks to generous donors like you, families never receive a bill from saint jude for treatment, travel, housing, or food, so they can focus on helping their child live. ashley: without all of those donations, saint jude would not be able to do all of the exceptional work that they do. narrator: for just $19 a month, you ll help us continue the life-saving research and treatment these kids need. tiffany: no matter if it s a big business or just the grandmother that donates once a month, they are changing people s lives. and that s a big deal. narrator: join with your debit or credit card right now, and we ll send you this saint jude t-shirt that you can proudly wear to show your support. nicole: our family is forever grateful for donations big and small because it s completely changed our lives and it s given us a second chance. elizabeth stewart: saint jude s not going to stop until every single kid gets that chance to walk out of the doors of this hospital cancer-free. narrator: please, don t wait. call, go online, or scan the qr code below right now. [music playing] - [narrator] life with ear ringing sounded like a constant train whistle i couldn t escape. then i started taking lipo flavonoid. with 60 years of clinical experience, it s the number one doctor recommended brand for ear ringing. and now i m finally free. take back control with lipo flavonoid. former president trump is set to virtually meet with a probation officer later today. becomes a little over week after his conviction on 34 felony counts in his hush money trial. the sentencing is set for july 11. police in madison, wisconsin, are investigating after a early morning shooting that left 10 injured. none of the injuries are considered life-threatening and no suspect or motive has been identified. i m craig melvin. does the punishment fit the crime? welcome back to dateline. i am craig melvin. does the punishment fit the crime? it is a question at the heart of the prisoner debate especially when it comes to drug-related offenses. for the man you are about to make, parole board answer could mean the difference between a second chance at life or growing old and dying behind bars. back to lester holt with life inside. and my three days at angola, most of the men i spoke with had committed violent crimes and received long sentences. life without parole. yeah. like every person, there are nonviolent offenders serving laws sentences that might as well be life. john is one of them. i grew up in a middle-class neighborhood. he s a war vet that said he was lost and broken when he came home. i had no direction in life. in 2000, he was found guilty of running a massive drug ring that moved kilos of cocaine between texas and louisiana. it was his second drug conviction. my sentence was 150 years. that s right. 150 years and he is served 20 so far as. s case is a prime example of harsh sentencing laws for drug dealers and users the legacy of the government s decades long war on drugs. more than 450,000 people in america are locked up for a drug offense. brian said criminalizing drug addiction is misguided. we said this people are criminals and we did not have to say that. we could of said drug addiction is a health problem. is that why jails are so full? absolutely. this misguided war on drugs is at the top of the list. things have been changing. the first step act which was signed into law by former president trump in 2018 had been projected to reduce the sentences of thousands of nonviolent offenders in federal prisons. that does not affect more than 90% of the u.s. prison population which is locked up in state and local facilities. some states had already been relaxing sentencing guidelines like in louisiana which started in 2001. epstein was sentenced under the older and harsher laws so he sued the state and one co-which earned him a date with the parole board. now, he is just hours away. i am not a troublemaker. it s about debilitation. i m a little nervous. thinking about things. trying to get my mind that the possibility of me being released. you are making a way for all of us here. be blessed. his 31-year-old son, a law school graduate, came to surprise him. a three-member panel must vote unanimously to grant parole. our cameras were not allowed inside the parole hearing room. about an hour later, his family walked out first. he made it. i made it. i made it. we were there for his first steps as a free man in 20 years. oh, have mercy. [ crying ] two other people are eager to follow him out that gate. henry montgomery and clay after clifford hampton who served a combined 116 years are about to face the parole board themselves. do you think you should be paroled? i should be. i m 55 years older. i am mature enough to know i ain t going to do that again. that might not matter. this is his second parole hearing. he was denied a year before and it seems clear to many why armory is still in prison. you killed a cop. yeah. the man he murder was deputy sheriff charles from east baton rouge. in november 1963, montgomery then 17 years old was playing hooky when the deputy and plainclothes approached him. montgomery said as a black teenager living in the segregated south, he was startled and scared and was carrying a gun and he shot him. i had the gun in my hand and i shot him. i did it and i am sorry. they say it doesn t matter how montgomery feels. what does matter is he stays behind bars. attack on a police officer s attack on the very fabric of society. he is the victim in grandson and today he is a police officer himself. there is no parole for charles. his life sentences permanent. my mom, my aunt, my uncle, our belief in the system is its equal justice. the family of clifford s victim did not want to speak to us on camera but they told us they do not think he should get out either. in 1958, when he was 17, he got in an argument with his 18-year- old neighbor. he flew into a rage and brutally stabbed her to death. i realize what i had did, i walked to the home of the deputy sheriff and turned myself in ski. he has another hurdle to overcome. in 1961, at age 20, he killed another inmate. he told me it was self-defense. angola was like a jungle. that s what you had to do. kill or go under. hampton and montgomery will soon find out if they will be granted parole, but if they are tonight, they could eventually end up where i am heading next. the hospice word. when i want to feel my most powerful, it starts with venus. with five ultra-sharp blades and water-activated serums for incredible glide. i feel the difference with every stroke. feel the power of smooth. 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(announcer) you can quit. call 1-800-quit-now for help getting free medication. what is cirkul? cirkul is the fuel you need to take flight. cirkul is the energy that gets you to the next level. cirkul is what you hope for when life tosses lemons your way. cirkul, available at walmart and drinkcirkul.com. lester holt: like every maximum security prison, angola can be a dangerous place. let every maximum-security prison, angola can be a dangerous place. on this morning, knife is found and when that happens, this is the response. a shakedown. this appears to be crushed and medication. we ve seen a couple shakedowns, what do you find? weapons, drugs. they along with assistant warden said being a corrections officer is among the toughest jobs in the world. you ve had things that have raised anxiety. absolutely. i m 34 and on anxiety medicine. studies have shown corrections officers have a higher suicide rate than the general population. can you give me some specific anecdotes of things that have happened to you? i had human waste thrown at me. what can you do? he already has life. the institution is understaffed and the officers say they are underpaid. we start people off at $14 an hour. people in the free world can go to home depot and make the same amount of money and not get feces thrown at them. poor behavior is often the result of hopeless men. the assistant warden said one of the things that is help to something i was surprised to learn that the majority of the officers here are women. there is value in the female officers. we can sometimes talk an offender down a lot quicker. just because we have a calming ability. something else i did not expect to hear. they believe that life without parole sentences makes person less safer everyone. if a man has life he has nothing to lose. he knows there s no chance of going home. i heard the same from many who work your. tonya works in the hospice unit. i would love to see these guys get a second chance. i worry about backlash i would get from that. i know the outside public perception is they are supposed to be here. was there a period in your life you would ve been on the other side? absolutely. my mother worked here as a security guard and i said how can you work with those people? when you get here and you hear some of the stories, no one is the same person from when they were younger to now. decades in prison would change anyone. there is an aging crisis in american prisons. more than 130,000 inmates older than 55 are incarcerated today. that is costing taxpayers more than $9 billion a year. experts say the aging and dying are the most expensive people to keep incarcerated and yet they pose the lowest risk to society. this is what a life sentence looks like when life is running out. dying prisoners being cared for in hospice by other incarcerated men. 63-year-old frank has been in prison for 45 years. when he was 19, he and his younger brother robbed a store, crime that ended with the murder of the owner. now, dying of cancer, he has asked for a compassionate release. the vast majority of petitioners for compassionate release are denied and so was frank. how are you feeling? lester holt. oh, yeah. we are going to have a nice conversation. do you think you should go home? can you give me a candy? it helps my throat. there you go. all right. i will let you rest. he is a human being. i am not here to judge him. but, i don t know how you don t have compassion. a few weeks later, i learned that frank died in his hospice bed alone. back in my cell, i had a lot of time to reflect about everything i have seen. i wrestle with the question of his prison punishment? if it s punishment, it s pretty bad. is it a place of reform? you can see efforts to reform here. i cannot help thinking as we are talking to men incarcerated when they were teenagers, and i think of myself at 16, 17 years old, it s very complicated. and now, the two man i met who committed murders as teenagers, henry montgomery, and clifford hampton are about to find out if they will finally get parole and walked back out into the world. world. mommy, what do you love to do? 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because what they did was reprehensible and there continues to be opposition among the victim s family. whether someone continues to pose a threat to society is a factor to be considered and whether they get released. it cannot be the determinant factor to the of all others. henry montgomery and clifford hampton face opposition from the victim s families. what will happen to them when they see the parole board? montgomery is about to find out. someone has come to support him. his name is andrew. he might look like a lawyer but he is actually the first juvenile lifer to be released because of montgomery s supreme court case. all right. today is the day. he served 19 years in prison. at age 15, he was out with a teenage girl when i got into an argument. he became enraged and peter over the head with a metal rod and try to get rid of her body by burning it. you committed a pretty savage crime. it was a horrible crime and on excusable there s nothing i can do to undo it. they were able to see how i had changed. the parole board said he changed after 19 years, what will it say about henry montgomery after 55 years? you are the first guy who got out and he is still here. there is a lot of guilt. i went to prison when i was 15, a white kid, and got out when i was 34. henry went to prison, a black kid at 17 and he is still here after 55 years. big day. the panel must vote unanimously to free him. they were behind closed doors for more than an hour. this is the audio from that hearing. my vote is to grant parole. my vote is to grant. two yes for his release. then came the third and final vote. for me, unfortunately, mr. montgomery i m going to have to deny your parole. i have a problem i think you need more programs. today your parole has been denied. i caught up with montgomery after he heard the news. he told me he had already packed his bag. you were getting ready in case. in case they said you could go home. yeah. you were holding together. i got life. i will keep my mind on trying to get out. you have to keep hope alive. clifford hampton s hope remains alive. he is about to face the parole board himself. i am realizing he has been in prison longer than i have been alive. i can t wrap my head around that. it was a unanimous vote. parole granted. i was there moments after a surprisingly subdued hampton learned the news. a new adventure begins. yeah. life on the outside. can you imagine what that might be like? excitement. a few days later, he walked free for the first time in 61 years. we will drop your stuff off at your apartment. andrew is here to help him because in 2016, he started a nonprofit called the parole project. by 2020, it had helped more than 40 juvenile lifer s reenter society. his first taste of the outside world, a fast food hamburger with everything on it. first apartment. his temporary apartment painted with bright colors to remind him he is no longer in prison. i am seeing so much that s new to me. i am excited about it all. 2.5 years later, he had the honor of assisting another juvenile lifer in his first moments as a free man. in november 2021, 75-year-old henry montgomery, the man who paved the way to freedom for andrew and hundreds of others was granted parole after serving nearly 58 years behind bars. in all honesty, henry should ve been the first one of us to come home. however, he is home today. you are going to do great. montgomery and clifford hampton left behind thousands of others who will never go home. they are today s filled with only yesterday s. something my neighbor curtis know all too well. this is my son he was killed in a motorcycle crash. in my short time here, i learned a lot about the human ability to cope. to accept. to survive. good night. as i wrote in the journal i kept, it s too easy to look away from prison and prisoners. dignity is earned. hope is essential. i m craig melvin. thank you for watching. that is all for this edition of dateline. i am craig melvin. thank you for watching.
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plexus will help us gain control of our border, restore order in the process. lexa biden s order is not a border security plan. it is a concession to the fact he has lost control over our borders. shannon: more than 8 million micro encounters at the bar since present invited tech officer it will his moves be enough to stem the flow of migrants have overwhelmed cities and a red and blue states including these nations of the biggest end, new york city plus democratic congressman ritchie torres who played host to a trump rally last month. plus pick works when someone lies to congress that is a crime. even if you are the presidents on the progress knew trouble for hunter biden house republicans accused him of lying to congress part of the same time his defense team prepares to fight back against the prosecution case in this felony gun trial at our sunday pan on the particle blowback for the president. all right now on fox news sunday at hello fox news in new york. headlines today, the celebration israel this weekend as for israelis are rescued and the largest hostage rescue operations and the largest since began to report reno with family after 246 days in captivity. hamas says a 200 side of our palestinians were killed during the raid. built by that military in gaza is back up and taking and food and humanitarian aid for palestinians after it was blown apart and high winds and heavy seas last month. voters across europe are set to decide the direction of the european union s in parliament today. early polls suggest they could shift the largest trading block to the right. a bit concerned over the war in ukraine and migration for those issues sure to be a top party g7 leaders prepared to meet and a link this week including president biden part a moment we ll get reaction from republican senator tom cotton. first we have team coverage from trey yingst in israel and where we began with white house correspondent peter doocy in paris. good afternoon of a present bidens that part s last day here in paris and greeting u.s. embassy staff to rezone his weight right now to go lay a wreath at world war i memorial port all while warding he thanks another big war in this part of europe could be possible if the west stops sending nine figure munition packages to ukraine. you know putin is not going to stop at ukraine. it is not just ukraine it s much more than ukraine. all of europe will be threatened. we are not going to let that happen. later this week the g7 western allies will work not just to help ukraine but figure how to counter china economically present biden claim during during a coffee s getting complaints lately from president xi this will be subtitles because the president was speaking so softly. might last discussion. present biden is not acknowledged the large broke pals and protest at the white house saturday that wrapped all the way around campus. is that is keeping the talk about the war and gossip focused on the rescued hostages. pursuant to ech echo presidents comments welcome this save rescue of four hostages returned to their families in israel. we won t stop working to all the hostages come home and a cease-fire is reached that is essential to happen. but before attending this week s g7 in italy which is a very short flight from here, president biden is going to fly home to delaware for a couple of days which will mean he will be home if there s a verdict in his son s trial by midweek. shannon: will talk much about that later in the show peter doocy thank you very much from paris is go to trey yingst in tel aviv where people are celebrating the return of those for rescued hostages. hate shannon, good morning. almost 250 days into the war, the israeli people received a rare piece of good news amid the conflict. twenty-six year old noa argamani aperture 56 days in captivity she s headed home. israel special forces conducted complex hostage rescue mission and successfully rescued four of our hostages from captivity and gossip it with a daring rescue operation taking place in central gaza at two locations is really forces engaged in fire fights with hamas gunmen before securing the hostages. helicopters arrived at israeli hospital, crowds cheered, for israelis after more than eight months in gaza were reunited with their loved ones. a father, with his daughter but a man with his friends, a mother with her son. thank you. thank you for bringing my son to me. to us. i am so excited that i could hug him today. this story does not come without dark preacher in the operation one israeli officer succumbed to his wounds sustained during the battle and according to the hamas run palestinian health ministry over 200 people the majority sibley were killed during the operation that included extensive israeli airstrikes. but they did not send u this warning or leaflets or nothing. body parts spread in the streets. the rescue operation illustrate the contradictions of war for palestinians it was a day of the death and destruction. for the israeli people exactly 35 weeks after black saturday it was a day of hope. shannon: trey yingst live in israel for starting is now arkansas senator tom cotton print welcome back to the show i want to start with your reaction to the daring rescue and the good news. quick shannon, thank you for having me on. what a wonderful day for the people of israel to have four of these hostages rescued in a truly heroic well executed mission yesterday had a chance to speak with prime minister netanyahu shortly after the mission pretty commended the israeli defense forces and the israeli police who helped execute this operation. i am very dismayed by sources and the progressive left here in america including the new york times, washington post or somehow condemning israel for saving for hostages at the cost of the supposedly more than 200 palestinians. we cannot take at face value what hamas says and the ministry of health. but my advice to them if you don t want your people killed in a hostage rescue missions you should not take hostages in the first place. you should release what you have you certainly should not hide them in civilian areas. so hats off to the israeli security forces for a fantastic day in a rescue release for hostages. we understand there are still americans being held. there s been discussion whether our own special forces should be operating in that region there is great concern u.s. forces being on the ground there s been a pledge that will not happen but what about our hostages and getting them out? quick shannon, our military is several units specifically trained in hostage rescue. they always have to be available and ready to rescue american citizens, wherever they may be. those are our responsibilities not israel s or any other nation. that said the israeli defense forces and security forces have the expertise operating in gaza working with the american government specifically our intelligence services as well. i am confident israel s government had a chance to rescue american citizens they would you the exact same for our citizens that they would do for israel but our hostage rescue teams always have to be available we simply would not want to have any kind of conflict with israel hostage rescue teams who want to work with them hand in glove to make sure every hostage gives it back alive. shannon: are more than 100 of that we re still try to figure how they come home for the meat of the present given injury to time magazine a few days ago he said this sum and is or have suggested netanyahu is a prolonged the war for his own political self-preservation do you believe that? president biden responded i m not going to comment on that but added the source every reason for people to draw that conclusion. what do you make of that response from him in the region what you say to critics who say that is exactly what netanyahu is doing? this is another slander by joe biden against benjamin netanyahu and the israeli government at large. prime minister netanyahu policies are very popular. is it war cabinet signing off on missions like you saw yesterday. at every turn tries to limit israel s action their ability to defend themselves and put more pressure on israel. not pressure on hamas and its patrons in the middle east. just look at what happened yesterday outside of the white house fo but anti- american pro- hamas lunatics defacing and desecrating the statues of our great veterans. which is a violation of our federal law. joe biden s government allowed it to happen. i bet we will not see any arrest or prosecutions for violating that law will introduce legislation this week that impose stiffer penalties we can lock these lunatics up. biden thanks these lunatics should be guiding american policy towards israel. what we should be doing is backing israel to the hilt really done that since october 7 attacks this war would probably already be over for the hostages would be free there be less civilian casualties and suffering in gaza. joe biden is instead catering to the small pro- hamas wing of the democrat party and set a backing israel like the large approach israel s majority of the american people want astute. shannon: that is what the polling shows let s talk about another ho hotspot, ukraine. present been spending time with he apologize for the delay of a this latest round that came through. he said he blames him a very conservative members holding it up and said we finally got it done. you blocked when the earlier packages read concerns about it. there are changes you ultimately vote for. you think is pointing the finger at you? quick shannon, he shall be pointing the finger at himself. for more than two years joe biden pussyfooting around and did not give ukraine the weapons it needed to defend itself. every turn and this war ukraine has asked for certain types or quantity of weapons. weapons. joe biden has refused only to reverse three or six or nine months later when it was too late. take a step back and look at the broader context. joe biden is largely responsible for tempting vladimir putin to do it he always wanted to do. which is invade and annex ukraine back to russia. and, if you notice vladimir putin only tends to invade ukraine when democrats are present till it did under barack obama he did und did under joe d not happen under donald trump. for four years we had peace and stability and effect donald trump reversed barack obama and joe biden s failed policy of sending ukrainians and blankets and ponchos proven donald trump was in office we sent them the javelins that were essential for winning the battle and the way to have peace in europe and for that matter peace and stability around the world is to remove joe biden from the white house on election day this year and return donald trump. that is how we get back into peace and stability. shannon: you talk about annexation want to bring this up the reports of resident trump plans to do is to potentially push ukraine to give up crimea, if that is the plan do you agree with that strategy and would that be rewarding putin in order to wrap this up in the way he intended to start it and take some of the territory is not just giving him what he wanted? quick shannon, president trump and his campaign has said in eight reports of plans like that are not authorized and are not coming from the president himself but furthermore president trump has said he strongly supports ukraine s strength and survival. he is strong relationship when he was in office with president zelenskyy bird president trump is the one who provided ukraine the weapons they needed to fend off this russia invasion that happen in large part because of joe biden s weakness. i do not think president trump was to prejudge what the situation will become january, nor do i. in part because we have no idea how much worse and joe biden can screw things up but if you judge the circumstances as they exist next year when he returns to office and hopefully will be have a republican majority in congress as a welt to make decisions about what best protects america s interest in the interest of our allies and partners. shannon: on the talk is about you being on the shortlist for vice president. can you confirm whether being vetted formally? quick shannon, as i have said i think only one person know who s on the shortlist. thirty-six at paperwork, requests and those kinds of things? quick shannon i think he will make a choice when he is ready to make that choice i m confident he s going to make a good choice for the ticket and the party but more importantly for the country. i think uganda will make that choice and the time is right. i am focused on helping him win this election. helping republicans win that majority in the congress so we can begin to reverse the damage joe biden has inflicted on this country for four years. shannon: is fair to say you all made statements like things like nato, international organizations, america s role in the global stage that are different. would you come as a vice president advocate for policies that may not line up with your commander-in-chief? are you two different on issues of poor foreign-policy question puts president trump and i ve long been lined on foreign policy both subscribe to what you might say was ronald reagan s vision which is peace through strength for four years of president trump of the white house we had peace and stability around the globe we did not have wars breaking out in europe and the middle east and being the threats and in asia. we believe sometimes you have to use a military force indiscriminate fashion way president trump did when he authorized the strike against iran s terrorist mastermind sulla money. we believe we need to pressure allies to take more responsibility providing our defense or taking responsibility for what is happening in their own region in part because america needs to take the lead against china and the western pacific to preserve peace and stability there. i believe president trump and i rely on foreign policy just like ronald reagan was which is peace through strength strategy which is where the vast majority of not just republicans but normal americans think. only pro- hamas anti- american lunatics the democrat party think america is to blame for what s happening in the world or that we should retreat from strength and confidence in the world. shannon: we hope to hear more from president trump maybe the debate stage on his plans for ukraine in the meantime s senat, thank you for your time keep us updated on that paperwork. thank you, janet. [laughter] protects border cast thousands of migrant so crossing into the u.s. daily despite the presence executive actions fox news will take you alive to the border new york congressman democrat ritchie torres is here in studio next that we have not shut down a silent but we have done is further strengthen the border through executive action. which can be challenged and will be challenged in the courts which is why we need congress to act. shannon: homeland security secretary friday after president biden issued executive actions the white house says are aimed at controlling the flow of migrants illegally crossing the border. how is the reality playing out on the ground? matt finn is live at the border in california with the real world impact. border patrol agents here tell us this area just outside of san diego for the past three years has been a hotspot because human smugglers of their gaping holes in the border wall and they can easily push illegal migrants through. just outside of san diego fox camera captured yet another group of 40 50 migrants illegally crossing. coming from all over the world including china, india, vietnam. one migrant posed for parents whose loaded onto a bus. this week facing mounting political pressure and concerning poll numbers, president biden announced executive order that suspends and limits the entry of noncitizens which will remain in effect until the daily average of migrant encounters drops below 1500 for seven consecutive days. and moving past and using executive authorities available to me as president to do it i can on my own to address the border. migrants will be restricted from receiving asylum at our southern border unless they seek after entering through establish lawful process. ask biden claims migrants who now cross illegally will be in eligible for asylum unless they have exceptionally compelling circumstances. i will terminate every single open border policy of the biden administration as soon as i take the oath of office. or has not been any immediate change as far as any significance of a decrease in illegal border crossings since the announcement. this week fox crew spo box ch migrants from across the globe to the major american san diego metropolitan. all from egypt? america. jordan. jordan? why did you come to egypt? why did you come to america? for a job. for a job? yes you know it s illegal to cross a word like this, right? yes but you don t care? yes. shanna, looks like president biden executive order on immigration could be indefinite for the threshold for it to end is when the daily average hits about 1500 the latest numbers obtained by fox news show we are sitting about 3900 right now. shannon: matt finn live at the border thank you very much. for joining me now insert ignorant congressman democrat ritchie torres. it s good to see if it. is a pleasure to be here in person. shannon: has a very nice to see you. let s talk about new york city there s an influx of some estimates wonders 35000 migrants in a relatively short period of time. no city council member said we are spending more taxpayer money to care for foreign nationals that we are on the annual budget at nypd, at the end why the department of sanitation combines. i know your reaction this week to some of the executive action by the president was where you do not want to be indistinguishable you said from republicans you are worried about excluding or erasing certain communities of color. what do you say to the people of color are your constituents or people live in this town who are worried about the system being overwhelmed, public safety, education. mayor adam said it could destroy the city. the concerns are fair. the migrant crisis has put an enormous strain on the social safety net system of nurse that we in the nine states have a dysfunctional asylum system. anyone anywhere can cross the border, claim asylum, enter the country and border patrol has no emergency authority to limit crossings in the event of a search. that s the gap executive order is billing but in the end executive order is no substitute for an act of congress only congress can fix what s broken in our asylum system for quick to note both sides to point the finger at each other. house republicans will say we passed hr to it s very comprehensive. the president say what about the deal this cent you guys had together? it seems it does not matter who is in charge of this problem is intractable does not get salt. there s one party that has a by camera by partisan order security it is the democratic party we the democrats negotiated border security compromise with the republicans but there are number of republicans press a small handful. most notably mitch mcconnell he was before is for the bill before is against is pressured by donald trump to oppose legislation. those republicans are actively obstructing oppose the border security compromise have no interest in actually solving the problem they re interested in playing politics and demagogue the issue against president biden. there is a difference fink governing and grandstanding and governing as compromise have refused to compromise if you let the enemy of the good you re not part of the solution part of the problem. shannon: they had a number of problems many saying they felt they had no say it was negotiated to a point where they could not go along with what wasn t it. we look at the issue of immigration is not good for the white house or the president. new pulling out a number of key states and virginia. when people were asked who you trust to handle immigration more double-digit you see on our screen they think president trump is a much better handle on us. looked out encourage you to look at new york three long island was ground zero for the red wave in new york and tom was able to win back new york three by an even larger margin that we lost in 2022 he was largely campaigning on border security so tom has shown democrats can proactively on the issue border security i do not think we should proceed to the republicans. shannon: when you look at a 20-point deficit for president biden and is really critical states that s got to be a warning sign to the white house. does it then make you question as some do this executive action is just a political ploy in an election year? the present is acting because of congressional in action. congress needs to do its job to keep in mind the political establishment has a history of underestimating president biden he has proven the conventional wisdom is wrong i suspect is going to outperform the polls and out perform the predictions of the political pundits and the prognosticators. quick so they get tighter people now to make a decision third-party candidates the pole with significant numbers once devoted to the ballot box or early vote they ve got to make a decision is often times tighten up. i want to ask about all these recent reports questioning the president s ability to run, to be effective for the four years forgives in the polls is not just republicans as democrats and independents of questions about the sea atlantic had a really tough piece out yesterday. referring to the president as another ruth bader ginsburg she does not know when it s time to leave and it cost the country that seat across the democrats that seat they say this about him and i say he remains a comprehensively weak income but weighed down by the same liabilities that burden from the start. beginning with the largest and completely unfixable one at 81 he is much too old to run for president. you said last year 80 is not ideal for the age of a candidate running. but here we are. what do you make of these reports you think the president is up to the four years? have full confidence in the presence through the present is old so is donald trump. cooher toys and people differeny because our people seem less concerned about president trump s age. is a narrative but if you actually look at his record it speaks for itself. he is most productively by partisan presidencies in recent memory you bring down democrats and republicans together to provide healthcare to veterans exposed to toxic substances, but brought democrats republicans to mix in the largest investments in infrastructure more than half a century. brought together to address the national security risk around tiktok. when you judge him based on substance rather than narrative i think he deserves reelection. shannon: on the estimate the big rally president trump had a couple of weeks ago in your district prints a very diverse district. a lot of folks showed up at we talk to some of them out there but one gentleman says you are taking everything from blacks and browns everywhere it is hispanics or the other people do not have a lot for your taking it and giving it to illegal aliens which is totally wrong. he talked about why he was attending this at many other similar statements from folks. why do you think your constituency is moving and poll numbers shows hispanic and black waters moving to president trump in a way they did in 2020. first approximate overwhelmingly vote for president biden despite a few anecdotes because it will be shocked if it were other ways. the latina boat in 2000 george w. bush went up 40 40% oe latino votes. puerto ricans and dominicans of the south bronx are different from cubans and venezuelans in florida who are different from mexicans in california are different from mexicans in the south texas. the latino vote ha is been a bipartisan vote for long time despite what the polls say we should be campaigning if we are 10 or 20 points bite we should never take any constituency for granted but we should campaign for every single vote. always a good base for any campaign despite any polls be fighting for every single vote congressman thank you for taking time to come and we appreciate it. up an excellent president trump makes a massive fundraising hall in the space once a dime to buy democrats less than three weeks ahead of the first presidential debates. our sunday panels are to break the new polls showing significant movement with key voting blocs that could make the difference for either candidate come november. i rally and backgrou battlegrt after rigging and big fundraising over the weekend. fox news senior correspondent is live on the ground with the very latest. former president trump arrives here in the silver state after striking gold big dollar donors in california. silicon valley is not a place republicans typically tap for campaign cash former president trump got a boost after tech investor david zach s held a packed private event in san francisco. the bay area is liberal and so we thought that 5 million might be a big lift turns out we got all the way to 12 are. he trust trump more than present by the issues including the economy, border and foreign policy. he types are beginning to change in california but they re starting to look at who are the people they are electing? the answer is postconviction or chestrust which ballooned to a combined $291 million from self-reported funds, are and see many organizations are back in. biting campaigns as well trump s case mabe reenergized his base, monies being spent on legal bills not voters. and it comes to money this is going be very competitive race. we note donald trump is going to raise a lot of money. we raise a lot of money but as of april biden cash on hand advantage is about $35 million. trump started his west coast swing in arizona he promised to resend biden s executive order limiting asylum-seekers to the united states. cooks i will terminate every single open borders a policy of the biden administration. bided narrowly won arizona and nevada in 2020 new fox news polling shows voters are unhappy with their finances the president s job performance. and head to head match ups he leads bided by five points in both states. former presidents rally begins in las vegas later this afternoon but the national weather service has issued excessive heat watch. the campaign is telling supporters to be mindful of the temperatures they will be providing water and have cooling stations. shannon, the high today forecasted in las vegas 103. are right live in vegas and boris. thank you very much. time for our sunday group. fox news contributed present of american spirit tammy bruce author of the new book, fear itself predisposing the left mind killing agenda but former tennessee democratic congressman cohost of the five fox news contributor harold ford junior former new york republican congressman, former gubernatorial nominee and prosecutor of lee is eldon. good to see you all the new york studio in person pre-thank you for being here but let s start with the fox news polling we have out and ke he states. will stop on a couple of them but let s put up florida. president trump up by four they re pretty going to nevada he is up by five. and then in arizona he is also up by five. but there is another twist to this i want to put up in arizona there is an abortion measure they ll be on the ballot and people asked whether they would vote for constitutional amendment to the right to abortion on the statement of the 70% say yes 27% said no. tammy, how could that impact could be a spoiler for president trump went into arizona has a comfortable lead at the moment? what that is the issue the democrats have relied upon to increase their enthusiasm. people are going to rush to vote for joe by if you put an issue on this it could be a variety of issues that is something people are passionate about. it will get them to the polls. however, i do not think this poll also says biden said about five point on the issue of abortion when it comes head to head with trump. suicide a huge lead. you ve got republicans who were alarealso agreeing with that bat measure. i think the trump enthusiasm we have seen this, even after the verdict, this poll it is monstrous, it is huge. this is the one thing thing the democrats have been relying on from the beginning because of biden s weakness. even that is not playing as much as they thought it would even suburban women have moved to trump. is going to be the push for the next few months i don t think it s going be a problem for trump i think they re able to beat that. and got sick at the turn out both sides of got to get operations i mean democrats seem to have an advantage they are underway and some the things he trump team seems applicable catch up on there in arizona will say that let s look to the issues we talked about abortion, president biting at the edge on climate change, abortion, election integrity and healthcare. president trump by much bigger margins gets the wind from these folks on israel/hamas where the economy, immigration and the border and harold, those are issues people say are more important to them. happy sunday, thank you for having us do. i think a couple of things big democrats we should be concerned about the state-by-state polling data showing us down for five-point to president trump at 50. anytime your opponent is at 50 and president trump is a unique opponent he s been a president before that should b because for some concern. but there are some things working in favor president biden but first off president trump s most pessimistic major candidate for president i ve ever seen everything is the worst. president biden is the worst, the economy is the worst scum of the borders the worst there s still an element of americans wantamerica swanting positives g some optimism regardless of how tiktok and social media has influence politics. two, president biden s got to talk about his record if he is straight 50 million-dollar jobs, enter thousand manufacturing jobs investments in arizona including phoenix where they become a manufacturing hub and will continue to be one going forward. you cannot underestimate the power of abortion. keeping it legal and safe. it certainly has been an issue in 2006 same-sex marriage went about and say someone to ensurienshrine that and state constitutions hoping to bring out bigger republican voting numbers. this issue will certainly do that. and the question will come down i think to a viable election had a people feel about their finances? how to go about their future and economic security come october? whomever has the advantage at that moment will have the advantage come november. shannon: would have a question thank you for getting us there will say because we ll get the tweets if i don t 59 jobs created but no give tests on the sill go back and say it most came back because of covid. there s been job creation. but, as a result the latest round of unemployment good jobs anumbers but again previous months have been revised downward seems to have a house every month progress wages are going up also. whatever the number is been 14.9 million jobs created. we can quarrel about all day but if we lost 14.9 million jobs, the tweets will be saying biden is the reason. of the economic issue come up to this point in virginia where there is a thai head to head president biden wen one bite 10 points more than 10 points there last summer and they were tied one of the questions asked what about your family s financial situation? will put this up. holding steady 43% 40% of people say falling behind. lee, you are to the ballot box in october people are going to vote based on their own economics, their own pocketbook. no doubt. the household debt being very high for a lot of families for families who want to get the first home interest rates are higher for some people there but they are in a home prioritizing upper economic mobility harder to be able to afford that larger house. the economy as an issue decide your vote in november is a bigger issue for people who are not benefiting from the economy right now. the point whether it s arizona, florida, nevada, for it voters a lot of them are talking about the border as a top priority there talk about the economy as a top priority. they are not talking as much about some these other issues. into the conversation about abortion being on the ballot they have backed the blue measure in arizona they ha devae white amendment to comment child sex trafficking. i think in the end of the day comes onto the mechanics and campaign it comes down to both sides as ritchie torres was talking t in his message of democrat that applies to republicans take absolutely nothing for granted but work hard on all day every day progress every campaign is at the absolute truth panel do not go far. up next hundred biden s federal gun cases back in session tamara s attorney taken this weekend to decide if the president s son will take the stand. plus, if you need a break available for streaming right now vaccination 80s quiz show you ll recognize a lot of familiar faces including mine. we get a little crazy because super competitive if you ve need a break this is fun hosted by the one and only chuck woolery on fox nation. treated any differently than any other american pickers. they argue, jason smith argues he did not tell the truth. jake and smith kim pursue every remedy available to him burke says that is what is doing a house ways and means chair jason smith oversight ranking member congressman this week. house republicans announce head and criminal referrals to the justice department recommending hunter and james biden the charge of making false statements to congress related to the house impeachment inquiry by the republicans against president biden democrat say this is all a stunt we are back out the panel. lee i will start the former prosecutor this is the letter they re sending over too d.o.j. hundred biden and james may provably false statement oversight committee and judiciary. is d.o.j. going to rethink with this? they should. you see steve bannon on his way to prison, peter was sent to prison, these are chargers that get treated very seriously by the d.o.j. when you are going after the right. it is the d.o.j. s and jute duty to treat the serious is coming from a nine states congress there is testimony given under oath. no one is above the law. those are joe biden s own words right after this verdict came out of manhattan a week and a half ago. the d.o.j. should absolutely investigate it. i happen to agree, knowing the evidence that was presented i agree hundred biden and james biden lied under oath. and for whatever reason, it means to justify the ends of and you re going after president trump to lock him up for the best of his life are bankrupt him and his family or from some cases remove them from the ballot for the left assignment attack on democracy this is everything we have had to witness and they have not even stopped yet they are still going. i think you re the d.o.j. has a responsibility you take it serious it s a referral finances congress with evidence to back it up. shannon: d.o.j. it may be done with at contempt citation for the eternal time itself james, was to send one over potential they re moving forward with this heahe says house oversight and judiciary committees issued lawful subpoenas for the audit records record the present biden interview special counsel her yet he continues to defy our subpoenas there must be consequences for refusing to comply with lawful congressional subpoenas. what, i am fatigued by all of the referrals, by the investment i was fatigued when democrats were doing it against president trump this is a group of people in the congress the last 40 years or 41 years of only submit a budget on time four times. this is a group of people in congress hamas attacked israel october 7 it took them months to finally provide some funding for our neighbors for our friends and allies. the blame goes on both sides i would agree with lee, if there is reason for the justice department no reason to believe they will not take these referral seriously. i hope they do what i hope they give us an answer more quickly than not it s important to note the issues were held in contempt because they did not show up. but if indeed there were allies here in myth truth or not truth i hope they go after but i hope at some point to get back to during their day jobs. democrats and republics if democrats are fortunate to gain a majority in the fall which is not out of the room i hope they take a lesson and realize people want them to behave seriously and do serious things i do not consider this the most serious of efforts by congress. shannon: you guys have broken free but former members of congress didn t break free i was i would ve stayed there. you look at the polling, congress get some of the worst stuff 19% was the lesson we had on that. may not want to make sure we touch on this there s a number of democrats out there warning of president trump is reelected he s talked to be about being a dictator being vindictive or revengeful. here s a little bit from left will hear from the former president too. i am telling it trump could end up rolling the score of got congress, and about the supreme court. i own it all. i am a dictator. it s very reasonable to assumed. people are actually worried abouome sort of extrajudicial detention as crazy as this sounds in the united states of america people should really consider these are possibilities. okay here s what president trump said when he is asked by sean hannity about these accusations. at number one, they are wrong it has to stop otherwise were not going to have a country. we cannot have this stuff go on. when biden goes out everyone says bye-bye and he gets indicted two days later and they go after him. the country does not want that. they did not want i with hilary clinton either. shannon: what do you make of the back-and-forth? works ciampa said even before about hilary when asked specifically put her in jail line, is that will be too divisive this is been a consistent position of his for years now. at no point has he created an action or made a point of statement going to be a dictator through everyone in jail it s been the opposite. then you got that left using meeting to try to guess i people. the fact of the matter is a biden has joked about defying the supreme court on the student loan decision. he has joked about that. only president trump is the one who has been on trial and faces being put in prison which many, including eye, think they will infect incarcerate him in some fashion. it seems a little bit but rejection considering the nature of what s been going on i think it is a shame. the american people can see the difference trump is been vocal about this consistently with piercing simply not true. shannon: before we go does hunter biden testified next week? i don t think he does, do you anybody? i think you should but no question. s second greatest letter all times or no. oh boy. we ll see if the jury thanks about that his father sank this week he is not planning to pardon him. all right panel thank you very much. coming up i m going to introduce you to an israeli man who survived the october 7 the taxi was huddled with his family in a safe room as friends and family members were murdered and kidnapped. here about his mission to all the remaining hostages a home fm gaza now. sleepy? headaches? dry skin? you re probably dehydrated. try liquid labs rapid hydration. it s packed with all five essential electrolytes. taste amazing and way less sugar than sports drinks? rehydrate and feel better with liquid labs. grab liquid labs in the walmart vitamin aisle today. shannon: sending good news for hostage wreck rescued and gaza highlighted the fact hamas is still holding more than 100 people taken on october 7. talked with a survivor of the attacks he lost his father in law and many friends is now fighting to get the remaining hostages home including several from his own community but we spoke before the news that this weakens courageous rescue. it is this week s sunday special. shannon: how are you doing several months out but still very fresh? first of all, thanks for letting me speak here. difficult times we live in difficult times. for the last eight months i live in a hotel. it s not so easy in a very small room with my four kids and my wife. and actually with my dog. it does not matter. only about 125 people from israel who are still in gaza kidnapped. eleven of them are our community, our family. this is the hardest event. the hardest thing to do. not knowing. going to ask you both your ribbon and the necklace you have we in the when called a dog tag but it is very similar in israeli culture what it is because it israel you knew sir e the army you get one with your number, your personal number in the army. and now here in english is ha is and bring them home now. and in hebrew which means our hearts is to gaza. the yellow ribbon is a symbol again to beat with the kidnapped people in their families and friends as a symbol we empathize with them. so they will know we are thinking about them all day long all the time. this is incredibly difficult. people were taken some have not survived. we know we continue to find out there hostages who have not survived their captivity with hamas. what is your message here in the u.s.? we need to get help from everyone we can. first of all to bring everybody home. what you make of the conversations ongoing? there have been some releases. can t israel negotiate with hamas over these things? are they a reliable actor in these negotiations? one of the problems we have is we have some targets, not one. we have some targets it s very difficult to know what to do first. think the israel government we need to first win the war. i do not know what it is we lost the war on the seventh of october. we lost the battle. to win the war we bring the citizens back. not soldiers at citizens, civilians, they were taken from their homes. so, to win the war first bring them back. and then we will deal with gaza. can you envision a future? you grew up on the border with gaza your entire life. can you envision a future post war in which you can live peacefully and live safe on that border? i hope so. i am optimistic. we need to change something. i still do not know what. we cannot go and live the same way we live. now, when my kids hear a siren for example to think the terrorists are going to come. we are refugees in our own country and i m going to go back it will take time physically and mentally. but we go back and we want to go back we are not ler home paragrh to the israeli people feel supported by the americans? i want to think yes the majority think the united states to help us very much. i met with many, many people these last few days from the congress i feel the love that i feel we are together on this occasion is not just a fight between israel and hamas. it is in between good and bad. good and evil. shannon: thank you for sharing your story with us we appreciate it. thank you. shannon: and so we sat down with naor pakciarz we learned of the rescue of those in gaza he sent us a statement we are very happy poor of our captives were rescued by the idf. but we must remember the job is not done. we are still missing 120 hostages we need to bring back home fast. we continue to call upon the international community until all of our families are back home but we think a first time for a quick note my podcast is outliving the bremen this morning i sat down at tonya sheet one to give hope to students on the auburn campus where her husband is a basketball coach. it led to a gathering started revival on numerous campuses across the south. what how it happened where they re going next rate living in the bremen anywhere you get your podcast for that is it, thank you for joining us. i am shannon bream. have a wonderful week and we will see you nex