in spanish, his native language, and largely he will address america s hispanic immigrants. i want to bring in jim sciutto, cnn s chief national security correspondent at independence hall where the pope, we re hearing, is just about ten minutes away. what are you hearing from the people around you about this message? what do they want him to say? well, poppy, i ll say one thing we re hearing now, we ve been hearing helicopters circling overhead, that s normally the sign the pope is on the move or about to be on the move. we heard that in washington and new york, as he s taken his motorcade from place to place. the crowd here, 40,000 to possibly 50,000 pressing up against the fences to get as close as possible to this pope. and i ll tell you, because of the intense security in the city, really more intense than i saw even in d.c. or new york, a lot of the crowd is kept well back from the podium where the pope will be speaking. a lot of the crowd here will be watching only on giant screens as opposed to live and in person. what do they want to hear? they want to hear a message of inclusiveness, of this crowd of 50,000, many of them latinos, many of them immigrants themselves. and before the speech we had a series of musical performances here, the tango, we re told the pope is a fan of the tango, all part of the message of the mixed cultures that make up this country, but really the people of the continent, north and south america and the pope, of course, from south america. poppy, you mentioned that podium, which you may be able to see over my right shoulder here before the main door here of independence hall. that podium used by abraham lincoln to deliver the gettysburg address. abraham lincoln, of course, a presidency of inclusiveness. this is a pope very aware of the power of symbolism at every stop during his visit here to the u.s. that decision to use abraham lincoln s podium, i m sure no mistake as he delivers a speech that is meant to have a message of inclusiveness, meant to again deliver that message we heard in congress about him being the son of immigrants, our nation, america, being a collection of immigrants, just like north and south america together. inclusiveness, a message to contrast one that we ve heard on the political trail, for instance, from some of the candidates. that is his message. we expect him to deliver it subtly, gently, deftly, the politician that he is, but with deep conviction and the crowd here already rapt with attention and will be the same when he starts speaking in about a half hour. no question about it, he will mark history. we ll see what words he uses to do that. he is expected, as jim said, to make remarks on immigration, but also largely on religious freedom. just as a historical note, he s using the lectern from the gettysburg address, that was a very, very short speech, fewer than 300 words. we re expecting this to go on a little longer than that. of course, we will have translation for our viewers that don t speak spanish. while we re waiting for the pope, let s bring in rachel, a member of the catholic association of latino leaders, a national spokeswoman for the libra initiative and maria cardona. thanks to both of you for being here. maria, you first, some republican candidates for president say the pope should stay out of political issues when it comes to cuba, iran, immigrati immigration reform, what do you think, maria? well, i think what they need to look at is the history not just of this pope, but of the catholic church. this pope is not injecting himself into politics. what he s doing is he is reaffirming what the catholic faith is all about. the catholic faith is all about social justice. it is all about taking care of the least among us. it is all about inclusiveness and showing mercy to those who are at the margins of our society. and all of the issues that he has underscored and on his trip here to the united states and, frankly, all the issues he has underscored since he became pope, i think, focus on that. so i think as somebody who s involved in politics in washington, i hope that we all heed his call. when he leaves, jake, you know, everybody will look at his visit sort of as a political test, right, they will take from it what they want, but i also hope that we all take from it the fact that we can work better together to find the solutions that everybody, including american voters want, and it s part of the reason why they are so disappointed in washington. so hopefully we can move forward just like this pope with affirmation as opposed to condemnati condemnation. one of the things, rachel, the pope talked about in his address to congress was the importance of cooperation, of people coming together and then the next day speaker boehner announced his resignation. i don t know if there was any relevance to that at all, but what s your reaction to the pope s message as he comes to the country and says things that are uncomfortable for politicians on both sides to hear? absolutely. can i first just say how touched i was by poppy s reporting on the prisoners? and that is so classic pope francis. i really was touched. pope francis had been telling priests the shepherds need to smell like the sheep, and that is such a perfect example of what he means and the question comes up why he chose to meet with those prisoners. well, that s smelling like the sheep and i think it was a beautiful reporting. so thank you on that, poppy. thank you. listen, immigration reform is a hot contentious issue. it s, obviously, being covered by what we re seeing in europe, which is a lot of chaos. i think what pope francis is trying to tell catholics in particular in america is to individually, especially, look at the people in our country, especially those on the margins as human beings. really, as jesus. one of the things he says very often is when you give charity, you need to look the person in the eye, and frankly, that encounter is very difficult when so much of our quote, unquote, charity is being done by governments. and that s partly why in catholic theology we talk so much about subsidiary, the need to do things at the lowest level. instead of these big centralized government programs, we need to as individuals think about how we re handling, how we re touching, how we re reaching out, how we re speaking to and helping people on a very individual basic level. rachel and maria stand by. i want to go briefly to carol costello live among the crowds lining ben franklin parkway, all hoping to get a glimpse of pope francis. we re about to lose her signal because of security reasons. carol, tell us what you re expecting, who should be passing by your location at any moment. okay, we don t know for sure what time the pope s motorcade will be going down ben franklin parkway, it could be 5:00, that s what everybody is hoping. when you talk about social justice and immigration, that really resinates with this crowd. this is the world catholic families event. there are people from all over the world here. they ve gotten together to talk about their catholic faith and to reaffirm their faith when they see pope francis. i want to introduce you briefly. where s baby tarzan? right here. you guys are from? indiana, southern indiana. you have a plan for baby tarzan, what is it? yes, we re going to try to get the baby kissed by the pope. all these people we met today are going to try to help us get the baby kissed by the pope. all these people are from all over the country and all over the world. let s hope for the best and yes, his name really is baby tarzan. where s amelia? you re from boston and you have a secret plan to get this globe with different spots on the world pointed out to the pope. what s the significance? yes. well, the significance is we re from boston and we also represent residents, i lived there years ago, and the resident that could not come, they want to send good wishes to the pope and a message, so what they did is, they put together this globe and they pin each city where they are from, they pin a message for the pope. so we re hoping to be able to give it to the pope and send a message of love from boston. i hope so. as you said, it did get through security, and your daughter is pregnant. right here. ana, so you are pregnant. congratulations. so you re hoping the pope goes by because your baby will be blessed? yeah, hoping for a papal blessing, absolutely. thank you so much for talking with me. oh, my goodness, jake, people are so excited. and security is tightening down, so i m going to have to go. see you later! all right, carol. we ll check back with you later. it s already been a very busy day here in philadelphia. again, in less than half an hour the pope is anticipated to take the stage again at independence hall. let s talk more about what we may hear from him in his overall message on immigration and religious freedom. joining us again, father thomas reese, jesuit priest with us here in philadelphia, father edward beck, and cnn senior vatican analyst john allen. as we take a look, we ll be pulling up some of the live pictures for you throughout this discussion. as you can see the pope s motorcade coming to independence hall. let me start with you, father beck. two things striking, this message of having to put a stop to what the pope calls the globalization of indifference, and he talks about that in the context of immigration, whether it is the migrants and the refugees in europe or the immigration fight here. given the fact the pope s first trip outside of rome was the island in the midst of the migrant crisis, what do you expect to hear from him here on immigration? it s so funny you bring that up. i was going to say exactly that, how symbolic his actions speak even louder than his words. he goes to where they are flooding in from africa and says everybody needs a homeland to be accepted. but today what happens, he leaves the heliport in manhattan and flying over the statue of liberty and ellis island. religious freedom and immigration to come here to speak about religious freedom and immigration. i mean, could that be more planned or more blessed or better? he said to cardinal dolan, can you have them do it again. not once, but twice, three times. so i think his actions speak even more loudly than his words. you re looking at images of the pope kissing babies et cetera when he was in lampedusa. you, john, your take on how he walked that line. also a pope that s said a good catholic does meddle in politics. be involved, be part of the conversation, the debate, but he also walked that line a bit in his remarks ahead of this visit. sure. only non-man of the cloth on this panel, let me inject a little bit of political edge to this conversation. i m a little worried we re losing what ought to be our main focus. actually, we are expecting most of his speech tonight is not going to be on immigration policy, it s going to be on religious freedom, and that has been a somewhat contentious issue in recent years. in fact, for the last two or three years, the american catholic bishops have been involved in a tug of war with the obama administration over the contraceptive mandates that were imposed as part of health care reform, their defining religious freedom clause. the pope gave a big pat on the back to the bishops in his speech at the white house the other day saying he wanted to endorse their efforts. i would expect to hear something along those lines here tonight. this is one of those instances in which francis blends a concern that plays right to religious freedom, left to immigration, and it s another lesson on how catholic social teaching really defies the left/right divides in american political life. we re going to take a quick break. at least 1 million people have flocked to philadelphia. the massive crowd is hoping to catch a glimpse or blessing from the pope. stay with us, we ll be right back. everyone needs protein, every day. there are more than 20,000 different proteins in the human body. they fuel our energy, support our metabolism, amplify our performance and recovery. they re essential for good health. your body s best source for protein? 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very, very cool. there are people from el salvador, mexico, mexico, sierra leone, congo, texas, philadelphia, of course. hannah, i m going to talk to you very briefly. you re a lifelong episcopalian but have come to see the pope, why? i think he s a breath of fresh air, his policies on the environment, he s just speaking to areas that have not been spoken to in the church before. i think it s incredibly important. turn around and go crazy. how excited are you? very excited, very excited. 17 years old, from kentucky, you are here, why is this pope so attractive to you? because he is very awesome. he s a great example for all of us to follow and because he s changed a lot of stuff and made it easy for us to understand. it s amazing, it s awesome. hearts are racing here at fifth and market street. let s go back over here, i ll leave you with that shot. you can just see the pope now reaching out, saying hello to people. very, very exciting time here. back to you. miguel, incredible to see and to be among the people there, as we just saw the pope stop in his, what else, jeep wrangler pope mobile. and kiss a baby, we ve seen that time and time again. i want to take a moment to listen into this historic moment. [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] all right, we are continuing to follow pope francis as he makes his way down ben franklin parkway to independence hall, where he will make those remarks. you ve seen him kissing multiple babies. it s a line his security has to watch, because this is a pope who very much wants to be among the people, with the people, and not so separated from them, so you see them doing that, tightly watching him, as well. let s go straight to miguel marquez, in the middle of it all, thick of it all. miguel, they could not be more excited next to you. this is absolutely credible. this crowd erupted like i ve never seen, and look, he s playing with the crowd. there s the baby we were talking about, the woman we were just speaking to tried to push to the very front and hand her baby over to the pope. he came around the corner. something caught his eye and really cracked him up and he stopped there for a bit, then a baby came out. just amazing. how was that? that was incredible. that s a once in a lifetime opportunity. you were pretty excited, too. yes, i was! i never have seen a pope before. that was actually pretty thrilling to see one in person. this is sort of like a whole other worldly experience, yes? yes, definitely. why do you love this pope so much, why come up from kentucky? he s one of the most influential people in the world. he s the leader of our religion. he represents us. and you think he s changing your church for the better? you can feel that? you can feel that? the sense of excitement out here in seeing this man, just that little glimpse, is worth it for all of you, yes? [ cheers and applause ] i ve got to say does win the cute baby competition. jackie from congo, honduras, mexico, el salvador, it s incredible. it s an absolute global party here. it s a lot of fun. total celebration. they love the pope. back to you. thanks, miguel marquez. if you re just joining us, i m jake tapper with poppy harlow watching pope francis historic visit to the city, the birthplace of freedom, cradle of democracy. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. pope francis in his so-called pope mobile making his way to independence hall. he was originally, earlier today, in wynnewood outside philadelphia at st. charles borromeo seminary. let me bring in for a second, what s the all these people have come here to catch a glimpse of the pope, a lot of them hoping for blessings for their children, blessings for babies, blessing for their unborn children. is there a trick if anybody is out there watching, just trying to think for some of the cuter babies if they are wearing a hat, that seems to help get the pope s attention. everyone wants the pope s attention. seems to be some of the security guards are the ones who bring the babies to him. yeah, even saw a baby with a papal miter on somebody brought up. yes, i saw that, too. really interesting. you know, if you really want to get the pope s attention, you re in a wheelchair or you re blind or disabled in some way, he has stopped at every venue to personally address a disabled person, and i think that really captures his attention and his heart. there was just an incredibly touching moment earlier today, not sure if we can bring it up on the other side of this screen, but he actually stopped his vehicle earlier today and saw a young boy, a 10-year-old boy in a wheelchair with cerebral palsy, stopped, got out of the vehicle, walked over and kissed that boy on the forehead. again, talking to those, praying for those, blessing those on the margins, those in the most need. again, one of the iconic images of this pope that we all remember is that woman, that man whose face was very deformed, and he kissed put his face right up against that man s face. this is a guy who has a terrible genetic skin disorder, the pope as he was making his swing through st. peter s square caught him out of the corner of the eye and embraced this guy and gave him a big kiss on the forehead and weeping. the guy later said that single act in a way restored the faith. not just his faith in the church, but his faith in life, his faith in the sense of possibility for himself. it was a magical moment. getting back to the blessing part, i think people feel holier when they are connected to holiness and these parents certainly feel that with their children. absolutely. some are out there amidst the massachuset mass, the teeming masses of the philadelphians that have come to see pope francis at independence hall. jim sciutto, jim, tell us what you see, tell us what the crowds are telling you. jake, pope francis is right at the steps of the entrance of independence hall now in his pope mobile and he s stopped right there in the center to pick up a baby and kiss her, him or her, on her head, and it s interesting, so the crowd here, and you can hear them cheering behind me here, they ve been chanting frances kuo, francesco, they are in a pen, whether here, new york, followed, and as he gets close to him, the crowd moves as a wave of humanity towards that corner of the pen to get closer to him and as he moves along, the wave moves along following him. everybody with their hands in the air holding their iphone or phone to grab an image of him as he goes. again you can probably hear the chanting behind me. everybody wants to get as close to him as possible and to see him holding that baby right virtually on the steps of independence hall, that s just quite an unforgettable image. absolutely. jim sciutto stay with us as we await the remarks from the pope in just moments on immigration, on religious freedom. as we do wait, i want to go to father thomas reese, senior analyst at the national catholic reporter, also author of inside the vatican. father, i was reading earlier today some of what you wrote ahead of this pope s visit and you were sort of lamenting over what journalists kept asking you, how political will this pope be, et cetera, et cetera, but you said the real core message is what effect will this pope have, what long lasting effect will this pope have, not only on the people he greets and meets, but on this nation. thus far in his trip, what do you think that has been? well, i think we see from the response to the crowds that people see this pope as a real person, the real deal. i think that s what they find so attractive about him. he s so transparent, he s so authentic. so many people that, you know, are called celebrities, it s all about them. i mean, most of them are egomaniacs. this pope is all about other people. this pope is not selling himself, he s selling jesus. he s selling the gospel. and when you see him interact with people, it s so human, it s so real, it s about and when he does it, he s reaching out so it s about them, not about him. and people just love that. i think they respond to that. and i think he s calling us to be like that, to be like him, to be like jesus. well, it s interesting you point at a time when the catholic church for not just now, but for years has been grappling with losing followers in latin america, here in the united states, and also gaining new followers, many of them immigrants to this country. you say this is a pope more interested in how people live their faith than how they articulate their faith. i think that s really true. this pope really is caring about how we treat one another, how we express our love, how we serve one another, how we take care of the poor, the sick, the children, the immigrants, how we care for the environment. this is much more important to him than how we define doctrines, and it s a very different. he speaks in very simple language, graphic language, because he wants to motivate people to live like christ, to be more loving and compassionate. and father reese, jake tapper here, i grew up in philadelphia and it s interesting, this is a city about a quarter of its residents are catholic, but as i got older, churches were shuttered, schools segregated by gender were forced to merge in order to stay alive, there was a parochial school a block away from me in philadelphia that s now condos. the flock leaveth has been an issue. i want to get your thoughts on that, but let s take this opportunity to listen in to the pope right now. [ speaking in a foreign language ] [ speaking in a foreign language ] [ speaking in a foreign language ] if you want to give us insight into what we re witnessing right now, that would be great. we saw he received the cross near the statue, blessed that five-inch cross and tapped the bible. they were from representatives from an organization, then you saw him being greeted by the world marriage and family officials there. he s going to move now towards the entrance of independence hall and greeted by superintendent cynthia and archbishop. as he does that for the next ten minutes or so, you won t see live pictures of him as he prepares for these remarks that everyone in the city and this country has been waiting for. you saw him joking a little bit. we re trying to work on the translation, but joking a bit with that little girl who gave him the doll. it s probably worth saying, in a few moments we re going to see pope francis stand at the famous lectern from which abraham lincoln delivered the gettysburg address, but the truth of it is, although he recognizes how important those things are, these are really his favorite moments on these trips. i ve followed him on all ten of his foreign trips and we can tell his body language is different, his facial expressions are different. in those moments when he has the opportunity to be one on one or in small groups and have those kinds of very personal exchanges, he just lights up. and i think tonight when he goes to bed, that s really what he s going to remember, not looking out at that sea of people from the lectern. it s infectious. in fact, miguel marquez is out there with a family that had the good fortune to have been spotted by the pope and blessed by the pope. miguel, tell us who you re standing with. this is the catholic jackpot. i m standing with colton and stephanie palmer from omaha, nebraska. you got here 1:30 on the barricades and this angel just sneezing, how adorable, six weeks old, what happened? the pope kissed her. it s really that simple. yep. they held their child out [ cheers and applause ] they held her out over the barricade, secret service agent took her, so how did it happen? we just held her up and called for the pope and he came over and grabbed her. you have your other son here, what s his name? david. he s not in the mood is he? he s sleeping. oh, he s sleeping. what is that like as a father to see the god s messenger on earth hold your child in his hands and kiss her head? it s a special moment. i m just so grateful. it s a miracle, really, so i m thank you, god, yeah, thank you, thank you. just humble people from omaha, nebraska. this is amazing. it is like hitting the jackpot spiritually. how is this pope changed your life before this, and i take you you are never going back now. i think that it is god who changed our lives, and the pope is so significant because he s unifying so many people. and he s speaking, reaching out to those seeking god, so what a blessing for him to hold our child and kiss her. this little one is going to have a very, very special that s amazing. very happy to meet you. congratulations. what now? back to omaha? we still got a weekend here with the pope, mass. pope mass tomorrow. pope mass tomorrow. david, there s hope for you yet, maybe we ll get one for you tomorrow. all right, amazing story. we saw one other baby get kissed over here, few down there, but literally few along the way, not like other trips where you have people running alongside and handing babies up. it s very, very difficult to do here. back to you. the catholic jackpot. i like that. i like that. i think you re right about that, miguel. as we continue to wait for remarks from pope francis about religious freedom and immigration, back to father beck and senior vatican correspondent john allen. as we do get ready for this, let s talk about you think the religious freedom part of this has been missed a bit? well, it s been missed, but it s so easy because immigration is such a critically important issue to this pope. and also politically divisive in the country. with francis because he s so identified with that issue and repeatedly called himself son of immigrants, and that s true. his grandparents left the piedmont region of italy in the 1920s to settle in argentina, open the construction country, fleeing the rise of black shirts in italy, so he s also in some sense has the opposition to fascism and awe thoobviously th immigration thing is large, but we should not forget he s also standing in the cradle of american freedom delivering an address devoted to religious freedom and our information is the majority of the text is going to be on that topic. again, i think what is fascinating about francis is how he utterly defies our expectations of what politicians, which side they are supposed to be on. we can imagine a lot of public figures who might talk about immigration, a lot who might stand there and talk about religious freedom, it s difficult to imagine someone who would do both. let s take a look and listen as the pope comes out of independence hall. [ cheers and applause ] your holiness, distinguished guests and friends, the united states is an experiment in freedom ordered by law and ordered two basic truths about the human person. the greatest good in the american character comes from our belief in the merciful god, a god who guarantees the dignity and rights of all his children. alexander hamilton was one of america s greatest founding fathers. he helped write our constitution here at independence hall. he was also one of our greatest immigrants. born in the west indies, hamilton was a friend of george washington. he fought in the revolution. wrote nearly two-thirds of the federalist papers, and set the united states on the course to become a world power. the lesson in his life is simple, this is a nation that no single ethnic group or privileged economic class owns. it s a country where a person who comes from nowhere can still make a difference. it s a nation where a man who never knew his own birthday, hamilton was born out of wedlock, can take part in the birth of a new order. he reminds us of immigrants from around the world, renew this country and every generation, they breathe new life into what george washington called the bosom of america. we live in an odd time in history, when a church defends marriage and the family, the unborn child, and the purpose of human sexuality, she is attacked as being too harsh. when she defends immigrant workers and families that are broken by deportation, she is attacked as too soft, and yet the church is neither of these things. pope john xxiii, now st. john xxiii, described the church as the mother and teacher of humanity, a mother who understands and loves the whole human person from conception to natural death, always, consistently, and everywhere. when it comes to immigration [ applause ] the church reminds us that in the end, all of us are a children of the same loving god. that makes us brothers and sisters, despite the borders that separate us. and in arguing over borders to keep people out, we need to be vigilant against erecting those same borders in our hearts. my dear friends, the person who speaks that truth most powerfully is with us today, and i invite the holy father, the son of immigrants, to share his thoughts with us now. pope francis. [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] translator: good afternoon. one of the highlights of my visit is to be here before independence hall, the birthplace of the united states of america. here were defined the freedoms, declared for this country, through the creation of independence stated that all men and women were created equal. that they are given by their [ speaking in a foreign language ] translator: inspiring us. peoples throughout the world to fight for freedom, to live according to their dignity. history also shows that these and other truths must be constantly be reaffirmed. reappropriated and defended. the history of this nation is also the tale of a continuous effort lasting up to these days to embody these high principles in social and political life. we remember the great struggles, which ended the abolition of slavery, the extension of voting rights, the growth of the labor movement, and the gradual efforts to eliminate all kinds of racism and prejudice directed at successive waves of new americans. this shows that when a country is determined to be true to its founding principles, those basic principles based on respect for human dignity, it is strengthened and renewed. when one country keeps the memory of its roots, it continues growing, it renews, and it continues assimilating new peoples and new individuals that come to it. it helps a lot to remember our past. people who have memory does not repeat past errors. however, it does look with confidence the challenges of the present and the future. memories save the people s soul from whatever, whoever, wants to dominate it or use it for their own interests. when individuals and communities are guaranteed, the effective exercise of their rights, they are not only free to realize their own potential, but they also with that capacity with work contribute to the welfare and enrichment of society at large. in this place, which is a symbol of the american model, i would like to reflect together with you on the right to religious freedom. it is a fundamental right, which gives shape to the way we interact socially and personally with our neighbors, whose religious beliefs may differ from our own. the idea of dialogue, interfaith dialogue, where all men and women from different traditions, religious traditions, make dialogue without fighting, that is given by liberty. religious freedom without doubts means the right to worship god individually and in togetherness. following the conscience of each other, but on the other hand, religious freedom also goes together with place of worship and the private sphere of individuals and families. because the religious fight and the religious dimension is not a subculture, it is part of the culture of any nation and any people. our different religious traditions are different religious traditions serve society mainly by the message they proclaim. they call individuals and communities to worship god, the source of all life, liberty, and happiness. they remind us of the dimension of human existence and our deductible freedom in the face of every claim to absolute power. we need to look at history. it s good for us to look at history, especially the history of the past century to see the atrocities perpetrated by systems which claimed to build one or another earthly paradise dominating peoples, subjecting them to apparently indisputable principles, and denying them any kind of rights. deep religious freedoms seek to offer meaning and direction. they have an enduring power to open new horizons, to stimulate thought, to expand the mind and the heart. concern for the future of society to self sacrificing service of the common good and compassion for those in need. in the heart of the spiritual mission is the proclamation of the truth and dignity of the human person and all human rights. our religion and traditions remind us that as human beings, we are called to acknowledge another who reveals a relational identity in the face of every effort to impose a uniformity to which the egotism of the powerful confirmation of the week or the ideology of the utopian would seek to impose on us. in a world where different forms of modern tyranny seek to suppress religious freedom or, as i mentioned before, tried to reduce it to a subculture without right to a voice in the public square or to use religion as a pretext for hatred and brutality, it is imperative that the followers of the various religions join their voices, calling for peace. tolerance, respect for the dignity and the rights of others. we live in a world subject to the globalization of the technocratic paradigm, which consciously aims at a one dimensional uniformity and seeks to eliminate all differences and traditions in a quest, superficial quest, for unity. the religions, therefore, have the right and the duty to make clear that it is possible to build a society where a healthy which respects differences and values as such is a precious ally in the commitment to defending human dignity and a path to peace in our troubled world and suffering because of the wars. the quakers who founded philadelphia were inspired by a deep evangelical sense of dignity to each individual, and for the ideal of a community knotted by brotherly love. this conviction took them to find a colony, which would be a haven for religious freedom and tolerance. that sense of fraternal concern for the dignity of all, especially the week and the vulnerable, became an essential part of the american spirit. during saint john paul ii s visit to the united states in 1997, paid a moving homage to this reminding all americans that the ultimate test of your greatness is the way you treat every human being, but more specifically, the weakest and the most offenseless ones. whatever religion have tried to serve the god of peace by building cities of brotherly love. by caring for our neighbors in need, by defending the dignity of god s gift of the life in order to 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campaign against bernie sanders with another against donald trump, fresh new polling from three key swing states shows precisely where the clinton versus trump matchup stands right now. our political team is here this morning with all of the bases covered. let s start with steve kornacki at his infamous big board. we re looking at pennsylvania, ohio, florida here. if the election were held today, steve, how would clinton do, how would trump do? infamous, i love it. what we ve got are neck-in-neck races in these three battleground states. these are quinnipiac polls. i could stress we re going to get a lot of polls over the next few weeks, the next few months, the next six months so take them all with a grain of salt. but look at this, hillary clinton basically tied with trump in florida, down by four in ohio, up one in pennsylvania. three pivotal swing states and it raises the possibility here since donald trump got the republican nomination, since he sealed it last week, maybe does this show republicans, republican voters at least rallying around him. we can look inside these numbers, i think we can. here we go. what you see is not surprisingly a very big gender gap. in florida women leading by women by 13, in ohio it s a little less pronounced. in pennsylvania it s a huge gender gap. there s the white/nonwhite split. look in florida, tied overall but donald trump leading by 20 in white voters, getting crushed by 40 in nonwhite voters. we also have our own, a national read from the nbc survey monkey national poll, an online poll that has hillary clinton leading nationally by five points over donald trump. again, that s closer than some of the other numbers we ve been seeing in recent weeks. we ll see other polls come out and see if they match up with this but at least raises the possibility of donald trump since winning that republican nomination, maybe republicans coming home. historically in those three states we talked about, pennsylvania, ohio, florida, historically how have democrats fared, republicans fared in presidential election years. in 2012 those were all obama states. florida was very close in 2012. obama also won ohio and also won pennsylvania. that s something, if donald trump is going to get elected president, he s got to make inroads in exactly those states. it s going to be interesting to see how they fared in hamilton county, ohio. the swingiest of a swing downy. we ve got lots of headlines before thursday s big meeting between donald trump and republican lawmakers in d.c. nbc news confirming republican leadership in both chambers along with reince priebus. we ve also learned this morning that dr. ben carson, now one of trump s most trusted advisers, has requested his own private meeting with paul ryan. jacob rascon is outside trump tower here in new york. jacob, am i to understand that dr. carson is essentially going to be gauging the room and also gauging paul ryan s mood before trump goes in? reporter: that s the plan, craig. you ll remember that dr. ben carson was one of the first to come out and endorse trump. he dropped out in early march and several days later threw his full weight behind the candidate saying that he had buried the hatchet and it was time for unity. dr. ben carson made it his mission to be a unifier and peacemaker on donald trump s behalf. so it s not too surprising that he would want to help out in this meeting between ryan and trump. but in fact a source close to the trump campaign confirmed that dr. ben carson did this on his own. he wasn t requested to do this by the trump campaign. and now he wants to get in there and he wants to help, as he has. on our channels, on our shows and elsewhere on other cable channels to try to be a unifier and peacemaker. mr. trump himself said he has no idea what the meeting will be about and paul ryan says that he doesn t know mr. trump, he wants to get to know him. so dr. ben carson wants to go in there beforehand and try to warm the room, as you said. we continue to hear from folks about the possibility of being a number two on a trump ticket, plomarco rubio, the floa senator, being the very latest. what did he say? yeah, so this is somewhat surprising because mr. trump on the campaign trail has made it a point to praise marco rubio repeatedly. a lot of us who travel with the trump campaign around the country have noticed this, that he will go out of his way to say that marco rubio is a very nice guy, he s well liked in florida, he s really a good guy. even when the crowd will go and boo marco rubio, mr. trump will say no, no, no, rubio is actually a nice guy. so now rubio comes out with a facebook post and he says specifically that he has no interest in being vetted for vice president, that instead he will focus on florida and in helping elect conservatives around the country. so rule marco rubio out. craig. continues to be interesting to hear him sing rubio s praises after calling him little marco for best part of half a year. jacob rascon, thanks as always, sir. house speaker paul ryan returning to capitol hill this morning. hallie jackson is also there. who comes into this meeting between donald trump and paul ryan with the upper hand, hallie? reporter: listen, craig, donald trump is coming here to washington as the presumptive republican nominee. congress is coming back for the first time since he took that position, and he is the person who is now the de facto leader of the republican party, at least according to what voters have said they wanted, republican primary voters. you re already seeing speaker ryan after his comments last week indicating he was just not ready to support donald trump yet strike a little bit more of a conciliatory tone talking about what he would do if trump wanted him off the convention headlines when that happens in cleveland in july. here is what ryan had to say. listen and then we ll talk about it on the other side. i believe between now and july we will be able to figure out how to unify our party. if he asked you to step down as chair of the convention, would you? i ll do whatever. he s the nominee, i ll do whatever he wants with respect to the convention. reporter: now this comes after ryan talked about a party that was only half unified wouldn t sustain a fight this fall against the likely democratic nominee or potential democratic nominee hillary clinton. so for ryan, for his top lieutenants here in congress, the idea of party unity is very important. there s not even unity among house leadership. you re seeing some of the top folks in the house split on what they would do and how they re handling trump, what their reactions are to him given his tone and given some of the comments he s made. that split is also evidenced in what people are telling us in our new online poll. we asked for reaction to people about trump as the presumptive nominee. 47% people were scared, 26% felt hopeful, 21% angry, 16% surprised, 14% excited. craig, it s a range of reactions just among the folks out in the country about donald trump being the presumptive republican nominee now. all of this is happening now as the discussion turns here to washington. up got trump on the hill this week. you heard jacob talking about the carson meeting. you ve got a lot of meetings happening between top party officials in the republican national committee and donald trump as they try to figure out how to move forward from here. for ryan, for people like mitch mcconnell who is also set to meet with trump later in the week, the question is how do you bring the party together. for the republicans in order to present a unified front against the democrats in the fall. someone else returning to washington today, texas senator ted cruz getting back to work. there s a report in the new york times that says his supporters are starting this effort to take control of the party platform at the convention. what more, if anything, can you tell us about that? so here s what we know based on our nbc news reporting. sources are telling us there was a call that was involving ken cuccinelli, who had been heading up the delegate wrangling for the cruz campaign when cruz was in this race. tony perkins was on that call and most of his national delegates were there. according to one person on the call, cuccinelli and cruz was on the call briefly talked about the importance of pushing a conservative platform in cleveland in july. what we understand is it s not clear what specifically would be in that platform, but it is clear that those delegates are headed to the convention with a mission. all of this said, craig, cuccinelli was also explicit we are told in making clear that cruz s campaign was over, there was not going to be some last-minute push by senator cruz to sort of white knight out obviously in cleveland, but there is a concern about the platform, about conservative principles in that platform and making sure that those are sustained, even if donald trump or when donald trump becomes the republican nominee. hallie jackson on capitol hill for us this morning, thank you. i want to bring in karen tumulty, molly ball. always good to see both of you ladies. karen, let me start with you. could it be that paul ryan is actually trying to get fired as head of the convention chair job in cleveland? is there a chance that maybe he doesn t want to go? well, you know, the wisconsin dells are lovely in july. i m sure he wouldn t want to miss that. you know, no. i think that what paul ryan would more than anything right now like is a unified party, but he also knows that this is going to be donald trump s convention. and it s going to be donald trump s convention from the first minute to the last gavel. so i think he s just accepting reality here. but i think we are a long, long way from that being an actual possibility. what do you mean we re a long way from what being a possibility? that you would have the relations between these two guys get so bad that paul ryan would not be at the convention. gotcha. molly, i want to talk to you about ted cruz coming back to work today. as you know, he has enjoyed quite the reputation for being a dissenter in washington, ran on it essentially, being on outsider. also has crafted quite the reputation for being legendarily unpopular with his colleagues. is there reason to believe that because of the campaign that he just waged he is going to be a different senator now than he was? that s a really interesting question. i don t see him changing his tone in the senate, but you did see toward the end of the campaign the way relations really turned very, very bitter between ted cruz and donald trump. so what i m most interested in is to see where cruz comes down on the direction of the party now and whether he tries through things you were talking about, the delegate maneuvering or through public appearances and other things to try to be a spokesman for what he sees as his vision for the party. a vision that is not shared by donald trump and that was defeated in the primaries. how does ted cruz try to take a stand for the principles that he believes in going forward. molly, i want to show our viewers and our listeners as well, this is a look at the florida, ohio, pennsylvania, three key swing states here. we ve compiled a list of seven swing states that show 110 electoral votes up for grabs. president obama won all of them in 2012 except for north carolina. there s the map right there. which ones does trump take out of the democratic column in the fall, if any, molly? i have no idea. it s really too soon to tell. i don t think it is wise to make predictions about november based on polls in may. and i think what we re seeing now with the surprising to some of the closeness in some of these swing state polls is that the clock really does get reset when you go to the general election. voters take a new look at the candidates, start processing it in a different way. i don t think we have any idea at this point how those polls are going to look in a few months, especially with how unsettled the republican party is and the complicated calculations that a lot of republicans are making about whether or not they want to be in the party with trump on the ticket. so, you know, i think it s wide open right now. karen, wide open? i think as molly said, these polls are snapshots. when you think about it, the two pieces of news that voters have heard about donald trump in the last week is one, that he won the nomination, and that the opposition that was vowing to fight to the convention crumbled like a cheap suit. the second thing they heard is there s a lot of resistance both in the party and in washington. both of those things really reinforce donald trump s brand and we haven t really heard a lot from hillary clinton. so i think, again, by this fall these polls could be anywhere, but i think what these polls show is that he is getting a bounce because of two very good pieces of news. at this point all this opposition from republican institutional figures is actually, i think, probably working to his benefit. karen, molly, thanks as always for your time and insight. more than 20 devastating tornados tore through the plains leaving two dead in oklahoma. storm chasers captured this video. after a quick pause, a closer look at the damage left and the lives lost. i ve just arrived in atlanta and i can t wait to start telling people how switching to geico could save them hundreds of dollars on car insurance. but first, my luggage. ahh, there it is. uh, excuse me, sir? 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when they come on the news and, you know, say there s a storm coming or something, be prepared. be warned, you know. don t take it for granted that it s not going to hit you. storm cellars, underground. that s the only way to go. how are you able to get through this? i m alive. i ve got to keep going. i m alive. reporter: so the shock is still sinking in for her and other people in this community. half a dozen tornados hammered oklahoma yesterday. again, residents here still picking up the pieces. as you mentioned, craig, 19, at least 19 tornados reported yesterday. they re bracing for the possibility of more severe weather here tomorrow, as other parts of the country, the midwest, look for more potential severe weather today. devastating out here, craig. it s always weird to see the complete and utter randomness of storms like that. that house as you said ripped off its foundation. it looks like 100 feet behind you, a house that for the most part appears to be intact. reporter: that s right. if you look behind me, that house is heavily damaged, but this one is destroyed. the national weather service will have teams out today assessing this damage, trying to determine the power of these tornados. craig, you ve covered many of these things. what really set this thing apart was, one, storm chasers were able to get so close and show those amazing pictures, but also some of the local forecasters think by the time it is all said and done, this could be an ef-4 and the national weather service looking to confirm that today. definitely when you see this type of damage, these homes ripped off the foundation, it is certainly a very powerful, mammoth twister, craig. a reminder, when you hear the watches, when you hear the warnings, do take heed. a developing story overseas. one person is dead, three others hurt after a knife attack at a strain station just outside munich, germany. police have arrested a 27-year-old german-born man. they are also investigating witness reports that the suspect shouted allah akbar which of course means god is great in arab arabic. the man was armed with a 4-inch knife. we re keeping our eye on the situation in germany. also more news to report this morning. president obama is going to be heading to japan, hiroshima on may 27th. he will be the first sitting american president to visit the japanese city where the united states dropped an atomic bomb in 1945. the president will honor the victims of that attack and also talk about a world where there are no nuclear weapons. primary day in two states on this tuesday. bernie sanders expecting another big win in west virginia. what that means and what it probably does not mean. this is msnbc. stay with us. if you re going to make a statement. make sure it s an intelligent one. the all-new audi a4, with available virtual cockpit. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain. shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don t suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. tell em cedric sent you. perfect driving record. perfect. no tickets. no accidents. that is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. yeah. now you would think your insurance company would cut you some slack, right? 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and we re going to make it clear that we don t want to forget those people. but i don t want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on. i do feel a little bit sad and sorry that i gave folks the reason or the excuse to be so upset with me because that is not what i intended at all. our own olivia stearns is just back from west virginia. she covers business, among other things, for us. i know that you talked to a number of folks there with the mining community. what did they have to say about all of this? unfortunately, the situation there really is quite bloeak. the coal industry in america has been in decline for decades but the decline of coal and specifically coal in appalachia has picked up momentum in the last few years. i m speaking to a guy called levi holstein. he s a fourth generation coal miner. i sat down with levi s father who worked in the coal mines. he s now disabled, he has black lung from spending decades down there. he said as economic opportunity dries up, the political landscape is also changing. have a listen. this is a democrat state, this is a democrat county with all the coal miners in it. and now it s going to trump. now it s going for trump. for the simple reason they ain goiain t going to vote for hillary because she stood up and she said she was going to put the coal miners out of business, the coal companies out of business. that just totally turned people off. turned them against her completely. did you ever think maybe she s being honest. i m sure she is being honest and i m glad she is being honest. that s just like our president now, president obama. he said about six years ago in his first term, he said i will bankrupt the coal business. he promised it, and he done it. you know, craig, the truth is they actually know the coal jobs are not coming back for two reasons. first of all, because of the market, the rise of natural gas. natural gas is cheaper so the market is always going to prefer natural gas and the big reason for that is the boom we ve seen thanks to fracking. the other is what s happened with environmental regulation. even if we were able to make clean coal work, which there are lots of question marks around, there s a lot more coal and cheaper coal in wyoming so those jobs are not coming back to appalachia. they say they don t necessarily believe that but at this point they can t vote for hillary and at least he s offering hope. thanks for bringing that to us. from west virginia to north carolina, the bathroom law standoff now headed to the courts since the department of justice and the state s governor filed those dueling lawsuits monday. none of us can stand by when a state enters the business of legislating identity and insists that a person pretend to be something or someone that they are not. the attorney general there yesterday. so what now and what s next? tony dokoupil is in raleigh, north carolina, talking to people about the standoff. msnbc s chief legal correspondent, ari melber, is here. tony, let me start with you. what has been the reaction to what we saw go down yesterday. reporter: hey, craig, i m in an 80-year-old restaurant not far from the state house. for years and years legislators have been coming here for coffee, for drinks, for lunch. you can see pictures of past governors on the wall yesterday. yesterday loretta lynch compared this fight over past fights to access overlunch counters. we were going to have an interview with tammy fitzgerald, a lobbyist who helped pass this bill but seconds ago she just walked away. clearly the framing that the justice department has put forward here comparing the access to bathrooms to access to lunch counters and jim crow era laws is not something they want to tangle with. but talking to voters during the morning rush it was clear that the attorney general s message is not resonating. people understand that skin color is not a choice but local residents think that the choice of whether or not you feel like a woman or feel like a man is not in the brain but something you re just one day deciding, another day deciding not. so whatever the legal future here, there is a cultural and educational battle here that the justice department has only just begun to fight, craig. tony dokoupil not used to being stood up, always unflappable. i ll let you track down tammy. ari, let s talk about this thing and moving forward. what s next and how is this going to play out in the courts? basically what you have here is these countersuits, but the bottom line is the feds are trying to block enforcement of this law. they re basically saying, hey, north carolina, we gave you a chance, an off-ramp with the letter and the opportunity to somehow narrow this law s application. you ve declined that. indeed governor mccrory escalated with the countersuit so a federal court will ultimately decide whether, as the justice department claims, this law is a violation of civil rights and has to be blocked or narrowed. ari, yesterday north carolina s governor, pat mccrory, he said that among other things this was vast overreach, a misinterpretation of some specific provisions of the 1964 civil rights act. how broad or how narrow have the courts routinely interpreted that law? it s a great question and it goes through categories. so the original civil rights laws that we think of from the civil rights era in 64 established certain categories upon which you cannot discriminate. race, which tony just mentioned, gender. and so the issue here is whether people who identify as transgendered are covered under that original category of gender. doj says yes and several federal courts have also answered that question in the affirmative which also matters because that sets precedent. although the supreme court has not set one national rule on this. on the other hand, what north carolina is arguing is that the attempt to go in and block a law like this is to assert a new catego category, that is to say not race or gender but the new protected class of transgender. so that s a fight lawyers will have and people will have. at this point in time there is more federal press denting in the federal appeals courts supporting the doj view, that it is a type of gender discrimination if you treat people different low in the employment context or government context because they may identify within, say, the umbrella of gender as transgender as people are explaining, as they figure out how they identify and how they feel. that s where the law has been, at least in the courts. our chief legal correspondent, ari melber. thanks as always. folks, we ve got some breaking news for you right now. a live look at lower manhattan. you can see i believe you can see what appears to be a rescue effort under way. the camera right now is tilting down. there it is right there. there s that broken scaffolding. two window washers are in the process of being rescued. we re still trying to get some information here, but what we can tell you is that roughly 30 minutes ago the scaffolding stopped moving. this is a building in the financial district here in new york city. we re looking at about 17 stories up. if you look close low there on the left side of your screen, you can see what appears to be some glass that s been broken. we re told that the glass was broken to help with the rescue effort. i cannot see i don t know if anyone in the control room can. i don t see the window washers right now in that scaffolding. we can assume at this point that they have been rescued. but again, this is a firefighter these are firefighters rescuing window washers in lower manhattan in the financial district. we can tell you right now that those firefighters have been rescued, they have been taken to safety there in what had to have been a harrowing episode for them, some 17 floors above at least 17 floors above that building in lower manhattan in the financial district. we saw some firefighters before we brought up this helicopter shot for you. we saw some firefighters actually rappelling down the building to the scaffolding. but again, they busted through the glass there. it looks like they may have busted through two windows to take those two window washers to safety. so some breaking news on this tuesday morning where some window washers have been rescued by new york city firefighters. straight ahead here, we will get anti-tax crusader grover norquist s take on donald trump and his confusing clarification of his tax plan. first, jon stewart weighed in on a possible president trump. i don t even know that donald trump is eligible to be president. are you eligible to run if you are a man baby? 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yes. and he s actually been quite clear about it, even with some odd questions. his tax plan takes you 0, 10, 15, 25%. basically back to the rates that reagan left the country with, with bush and clinton then raised them and obama. and also to take a 15% tax on business activity. not just on corporations, but on self-employed people and people who have subchapter s corporations or pass-through companies. so business income at 15% instead of 35%. that makes us competitive worldwide. it s a fine, solid plan. he thinks if he goes and negotiates with the house and the senate, they may ask him to raise some of the reduce some of his tax cut or raise taxes where where they re cut. i don t think so. i think if he sits down with paul ryan and senator mitch mcconnell, they ll be very happy with the plan as written. assuming that they sit down with him after he s elected and that the relationship is a bit more cordial than it is right now. i want to call your attention, i m sure you ve seen this article that was in in the washington post. this is sort of a look at what trump might be doing here. trump is playing a game here. he wants to signal flexibility on high-end taxes and the minimum wage to the general election audience while trying to reassure those gop elites who might still plausibly support him and who care about these issues, that he d hold the line on them. what do you make on that. do you think perhaps he s trying to give himself some wiggle room here? no, because he clarified whatever confusion people had from sunday. the actual challenge you have is the question is trump or hillary clinton. hillary clinton started the campaign the way her husband did. the question here is donald trump s tax plan. i also want to ask you about this, his plans with regards to social security. in the past your group has acknowledged that to sustain the program long term, to keep it viable, that changes will have to be made to social security as we know it in this country. donald trump said in miami at the debate, he said, quote, i will do everything within my power not to touch social security, to leave it the way it is. what say you to that? so any changes in social security require 60 votes. there are reforms that one needs to do on entitlements in order to make them sustainable but there was a reform in social security. it s the entitlement with the least set of problems right now because there were some reforms that were done on a boy partisan basis under reagan. but you seem to be avoiding hillary clinton s problems of her endorsing taxing low income people, which she started her campaign saying she d never do and now she s endorsed taxing people who buy soda pop $4 for a 12-pack increase. you re talking about the plan in philadelphia. the philadelphia plan that she endorsed. for the record i wasn t trying to shirk conversation about that but we did invite you on to talk about donald trump s tax plan. but the suggestion that trump has shifted when she hasn t and hillary has. i think we can all agree that it was a bit confusing to hear him say one thing on sunday and i think he would acknowledge that it was a bit confusing which would explain why he called in to try to clarify his remarks. yesterday you indicated that he had not signed the no new tax pledge scratch that, he had not mailed it to his office. any word on that, have you gotten it? no, we don t have it. until it s public, we don t consider it signed because it s a pledge to the american people. why do you think he hasn t signed it yet? if he s a guy who s going to cut taxes for businesses, he s going to cut taxes for the middle class, he s going to cut taxes for the wealthy, why not wear it like a badge of honor and sign the pledge and do what many other republican presidential candidates have done in the past? they stand with grover norquist. why do you think he hasn t done that yet? well, it s to stand with the american people. well, i was told he has by the campaign. they may decide to publicize it on their own basis. many people do that on their own timetable. his commitments, both his plan and his statements are perfectly consistent with a commitment to veto any effort to raise taxes net. so i think he s been fairly clear on that. i always like to have it here again and again and i think the american people would feel secure as they do with the house and senate republicans when they put it in writing and say to people, you know, here s what we re not going to do. we re not raising taxes. grover norquist, i always enjoy your insight, sir. thank you. good to be with you. up next, donald trump claims that women love him and that he ll have a huge win with female voters. is that how women really feel about the presumptive gop nominee? 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kasie hunt sat down with a group of republican female voters in northern virginia. what did these ladies have to say, kasie? craig, good morning. these women should be reliable votes for the republican nominee. in basically any other year. they all supported mitt romney in 2012, but they re divided on the subject of donald trump an they re also divided on the subject of hillary clinton and how he s been attacking her. we, of course, saw him over the weekend talk about hillary clinton as an enabler of some of her husband s bad behavior. i asked these women about it. take a look. for me, i think that s kind of ridiculous. it s blaming the woman because the husband made a bad choice. i think that s kind of silly. i also don t think we can comment on their relationship. they secretary clinton and president clinton have a unique relationship and there s actually a book on it. i forgot what it s called, but it talks about they re more than just husband and wife, they are partners in many other aspects. and i think it s called the machine. they are a machine and that s why she would never have left him. as badly as all that came out she would never have left. but i don t think we can say what we would have done. how many women do we know who are still with their husbands after being cheated on. how many women do we know who are still in abusive relationships. i don t think we can project on what she s doing or what she did because it was good for her career. i think that it s a very personal story that happens in every individual household. but he was the president of the united states. what s your sense. he was the president. come on. i mean he was he was in charge. he took this starry-eyed intern and abused her. and you think that reflects negatively on hillary clinton? i do, i do. so my next question is do you like jackie o.? are you a fan of jacqueline kennedy? yes, and i know what you re going to say. did she enable jfk to sneak in women? because i m sure bobby kennedy snuck dozens of women in. so did jackie o. enable president kennedy? and the next question, did she not use her position as former first lady to start all of these charitable foundations. i want to let you finish since it s directed at you. well, when you look the other way, you are enabling. so as you can see, it got pretty contentious and there was a little bit of a divide by age. people who remember bill clinton in the white house better, some people who were younger when that happened and maybe it s a little further away. that was a fascinating look and probably a conversation that is being had around other dinner tables all over this country. kasie hunt for us today in washington. thank you. we will be right back. owen! hey kevin. hey, fancy seeing you here. uh, i live right over there actually. you ve been to my place. no, i wasn t.oh look, you dropped something. it s your resume with a 20 dollar bill taped to it. that s weird. you want to work for ge too. hahaha, what? 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numerous scandals. they re going after me with women? give me a break, folks. plus, president obama attacks successful people. that s a pet peeve of mine, people who ve been successful and don t realize they ve been lucky. and john kerry warns about a borderless world. hannity starts right here, right now. welcome to hannity. tonight donald trump is responding to the republicans who refuse to rally behind him as the party s nominee. now, here s what he told abc about the party being united. i think it s a mistake not to do this. we want to bring the party together. does the party have to be together? does it have to be unified? i m very different than everybody else perhaps that s ever run for office. i actually don t think so. it doesn t have to be uni unified? i don t think so. it would be better if it were unified. i think there would be something good about it but i don t think it twhactually has to be unifien the traditional sense. i m a conservative. don t forget, this is called the republican party, not called the conservative party. there are conservative parties. this is the republican party. here with reaction, former 2016 republican presidential candidate, the great state of texas, governor rick perry is with us. how are you? very good. thank you. you were harsh against donald trump. he was not your next choice after you got out of the race to win, but you re supporting him. why? this is simple when you get down to it, donald trump is going to be the republican nominee. we re going to have a choice between donald trump and hillary clinton and the next president of the united states is going to appoint at least one, probably three supreme court justices. this is about a no-brainer as you can get from my perspective is when you really get down to it, and listen, yeah, i was harsh. i was harsh on mitt romney. i was harsh on a number of people. they reciprocated. that s the way the process works. sean, that s what we re doing. we re going through a process here. and donald trump is going to be our nominee. and, you know, i m going to support him because the alternative is an absolute disaster. i was down at the border with you. i believe he ll build that wall. i don t think there s any doubt about it. he ran strongly on it. also he said he will release the names and create a pool of candidates for the supreme court and he would only tap into that group of people. so conservatives will know ahead of time the type of justices that he would appoint to the supreme court. he says he has a judicial philosophy similar to both scalia and thomas. you think that will give conservatives that are maybe on the fence some hope things will be a lot better and different? it certainly should. when you hear him talk about, listen, washington doesn t need to be deciding education policy in washington, d.c., devolve that back to the states, that s a 10th amendment supporter speaking there and that s what i want in a president that doesn t believe that washington knows everything and that all power evolves out of washington, d.c., that the states are, you know, 50 laboratories of innovation. he believes that. and i truly believe that donald trump will devolve that power back, will make washington, d.c., as inconsequential as it can be and scares a lot of people who really have never seen that, they ve never supported that concept. but if we re truly going to be republicans, we re truly going to be conservatives, that 10th amendment needs to really it s huge. there s a whole list of those issues, though, and he said he d repeal and replace obamacare, said he d appoint conservative justices to the court, osh originalists he told me many times. i think you ve made the point here. you made the point about why people like me are going to be supporting donald trump. i mean, we agree on a whole lot more than we disagree on. if you want to split hairs, get your panties in a wad over this issue or that one, that s fine, but the point is donald trump is going to be our nominee. he s earned it and we need to respect that that he s worked hard. you know, wasn t my first choice. matter of fact, he wasn t my second choice. he s our nominee. i m going to do everything i can to make sure that we have an individual in the white house who s going to put people on that supreme court that are going to effect my kids 40 years from now with decisions. i want somebody that s going to put a conservative and constitutionalist on that court. here s trump on being blind sided by speaker of the house ryan and by mitt romney. i want to get your reaction to this. i like paul ryan. i think he s a very good guy. he called me three weeks ago and he was so supportive. it was amazing. i never thought a you re stunned. you feel blind sided by him? i would say stunned is a little bit it s politicked. i m never stunned by anything that happens in politics so i m not yeah, i was blind sided a little bit because he spoke to me three weeks ago and it was a very nice call, very encouraging call. i helped mitt romney a lot. and you feel like he was ungrateful. i believe i won him or helped him win five states that he was going to lose. sounds like you think he was ungrateful, you think he s been ungrateful? he was. he was ungrateful which is okay. a lot of people are ungrateful. he was ungrateful. they did not respond accordingly and that s okay. what is your reaction? speaker of the house, he doesn t do a lot of interviews. he goes out and purposely does this interview to shoot that give that shot across the bow to trump. why? why? doesn t that seem like sabotage? you know, i can t answer why the speaker has given answer, given that response. i will suggest to you with a little time, like in a lot of things in life, we say things that are harsh, but when we give some thought to it, what is the long game here, and, you know, speaker ryan and mitt romney, they understand the long game and the long game is we must have a republican as the next president of the united states and i m trying to keep this simple. if for no other reason than those supreme court decisions, those supreme court appointees that are going to occur in the next four years. let me ask you this we got to get that right. i talked about two things i think would be good. number one, promises to america, put it down on paper because people feel betrayed. number two, a team of rivals. if donald trump calls you, governor, i think you re one of the most successful governors in the country. would you take his call and maybe be part of his team? sure. i ve said that. it is important for people to look at what he s going to do and who he s going to do that with. bringing in individuals, particularly on the political side who have a lot of experience on how that process works, like he said, listen, he s got the business side of this thing covered. he feels pretty comfortable about his military side of it. you know, again, i would i hope i have the opportunity to share with him a little bit about the military side of it. not only as a veteran, but also as commander in chief, as a governor. also just the relationships i ve had over the course of those years. i d certainly be open to having conversations about helps him in any way that i can. and any good american should do that. we should not allow any personal pettiness get in the way of getting this country back on track again. governor, that s a powerful statement tonight. i hope other people hear you. thank you, sir. so long. soin jojoining us, former 20 republican presidential candidate, dr. ben carson. d. carson, what s your reaction to lindsay grey graham, jeb bus paul ryan? you know, i believe they will come along eventually as they think through this. and recognize that why do they have to come along, if they give you promise if i promise you i m going to support you, if i lose, why is that a process? you gave your word. well, it shouldn t be. it shouldn t be. and your word should be worth something. i think they will come to recognize that also. so i think some of this right now is posturing. some of it s licking of raw wounds. and i understand that. and i think, you know, given enough time and space, these problems will begin to resolve themselves because there really is not another good alternative and like rick perry said, you know, this is about the future. this is about the supreme court. and how it s going to be changed. this is about our children. we can t let pettiness get in the way. and also remember, we re being manipulated by a lot of people on the other side who say, you republicans are wonderful people because you have such principles and you would never vote for somebody that you didn t agree with. then they go home and laugh at you. with your background, as a doctor, as a medical doctor, you could be appointed to repeal and replace obamacare. now, i ve interviewed donald trump a lot about this and talked to him a lot about this. he has on his website, he told me numerous times he likes health care savings accounts. have you thought about if given that task how you d handle that? well, certainly. i don t necessarily want to be appointed to any office, but i will certainly be lending the expertise that i have oh, no, i think health and human services secretary and surgeon general are right up your alley. i think you could probably do both jobs at once. well, i also feel that i m volunteering you, if you didn t hear. i m highly endorsing you. yeah. to continue to speak out about all kinds of things because just because donald trump gets elected doesn t mean that a lot of our other issues don t go away and we need a lot of voices out there speaking about these things in a very truthful and honest way. do you like the idea of a team of rivals? we have, like i ve always thought governor perry did one of the best jobs of any oagoverr in the country. terrific guy. or governor jindal another one, scott walker, john kasich, maybe putting a team together, announcing that team ahead of time would be helpful? i think it would be extraordinarily helpful and i thc think that s going to happen. we have a lot of really good candidates including some people who didn t run and also the supreme court, putting that list out, i think, is going to huge. assuage a lot of anxiety. i agree. very well said. you re going to help, i guess, in putting together a list of vice presidential possibilities? we have some terrific possibilities. is your name on the list? obviously we need i don t want to be considered because i remember when i was running whose names are on the list? great distraction. i would but i m not going to. what do you mean come on, just between you and me, we re friends. all right. and a million others. all right, dr. carson. thank you. appreciate it. and coming up tonight on this busy news night on hannity jeb bush is not an honorable person. lindsey graham is not an honorable person because when you sign a pledge, that s supposed to mean something, right? donald trump lashing out at republicans who have broken their pledge to support the republican nominee. ari fleischer, tucker carlson, peter johnson jr. are all here to weigh in. then later tonight she was an unbelievably nasty, mean, enabler and what she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful. donald trump unloading on hillary clinton for being, quote, an enabler of bill clinton s scandalous past. that and more tonight on hannity. nothing unleashes power. quite like the human foot. introducing the 241 horsepower lexus is 200 turbo. with almost twenty percent more base horsepower. once driven, there s no going back. they found out who s been who? 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[ digital typewriting ] it s not just security. it s defense. bae systems. live from america s news hq, i m kelly wright. a large tornado killing at least two people monday in central oklahoma. one of the victims a man believed to be in his late 70s died in his wynnewood home. other areas have also seen severe damage. 41 million people from houston to sioux city, iowa, are in the path of the violent storm system. the storm prediction center says the greatest risk for bad weather tonight is arkansas, louisiana, oklahoma and texas. fooste efirefighters gainin on the massive wildfire in canada. firefighters are aided by a cooler 45 degrees. last week the massive flames forced nearly 90,000 people from their homes. 2,400 homes and buildings have been destroyed. 25,000 others have been saved. i m kelly wright. now back to hannity. can you definitively say you will support the republican nominee even if that nominee is donald j. trump? senator rubio, yes or no? i ll support the republican nominee. mr. trump, yes or no? i ll support donald if he s the republican nominee. senator cruz, yes or no, you ll support donald trump if he s the nominee? yes because i gave my word that i would. he ends up as the nominee, sometimes he makes it a little bit hard, but i ll support whoever is the republican nominee for president. i think donald trump is a disaster. i think he ll hurt the country and we ll lose in a landslide. i will still pledge to support the nominee. i think in the end republicans across the country certainly in the state of wisconsin, we re going to be behind the nominee. as i ve always done since the beginning, since i was 18 years old, i m going to support the republican nominee. i m going to support the republican nominee whoever he or she may be. but the bottom line, if it s trump, so be it. that s who i ll support. all right. that was a flashback from some former gop presidential candidates who all signed a pledge promising to support the eventual republican nominee but now two of them are singing a different tune including senator lindsey graham. watch this. i just don t believe donald trump is a reliable conservative republican. good luck with paul ryan trying to find a conservative agenda with this guy. i don t think has the temperament or judgment to be commander in chief. i can understand why people want to support the nominee of the republican party. i would like to be able to do that, but i just can t. now, senator graham is not the only former candidate to break his promise. on friday former governor jeb bush posted a lengthy statement to facebook writing in part, in november i will not vote for donald trump or hillary clinton but will support principled conservatives at the state and federal level. over the weekend donald trump forcefully responded to both bush and graham. watch this. so you all wanted me to sign a pledge, i said i ll sign a pledge. a pledge means something. jeb bush, very low-energy individual, signed a pledge and the pledge says we will guarantee you re going to endorse everything else. i signed it. so jeb bush is not an honorable person. lindsey graham is not an honorable person. because when you sign a pledge, that s supposed to mean something, right? it didn t mean anything. here now with reaction, former white house press secretary ari fleischer and fox news contributor, tucker carlson. fox news legal analyst, peter johnson jr. sorry, peter. all right. so ari, it s kind of simple. at the very first debate, the only person not to raise his hand when that question was asked was donald trump. a lot of pressure was brought to bear on him. he finally guy in, said, yeah, all right, i ll support the eventual nominee. what about those people who break their promise? look, sean, i haven t been hesitant to criticize donald trump when he was in the wrong, but you got to give this round to donald trump. donald trump is right. and one of the reasons that donald trump is running well is because of the sense the politicians will say and do anything and their word doesn t matter so the public is working for an outsider. this reinforces the sentiment that people in washington will say whatever they want to say and not mean it. tr donald trump is right about the criticism. they should be supporting him. peter? ari is right. words mean something. someone s word better count especially in a presidential race. they re looking bad. they re making donald trump look good. and the republican party in trying to walk away from donald trump at this point, especially the speaker of the house is an absolute embarrassment. it shows an utter disrespect for the will of the republican vo t voters acrosses the country. bill kristol, mitt romney, ben sasse talking about a potential third party candidate. things bill kristol said, he said he became pretty close to being elected president, talking about romney, i thought he might consider doing it especially since he s been forthright in explaining why donald trump and hillary clinton should not be the president of the united states. he went on to say obviously if there were to be an independent candidacy, romney s support would be very important. i wanted to get his wisdom on whether or not it was less doable than i thought. it was like, well, you should do it. i wouldn t presume he would. but i m hoping that he begins to think about it a little more. then he tweeted out as well, he said, you know, clinton versus trump would be stupid, mutually destructive, honest, competent independent could win. if bartolo colon could hit a home run he s a mets pitcher, like, 42, then an independent can win the candidacy. are they trying to help hillary become the president? look, i mean, first to the president candidates. i give jeb bush a pass. i mean, trump didn t just beat him, he basically destroyed his life and made him unemployable. lindsey graham, nobody cares what he says. fru as for republicans in d.c., they re totally bewildered. they don t get that trump didn t inherit the republican party, he won it in primaries against 16 other candidates. this is what happens when you lose a couple wars and two presidential election and washington republicans are implicated in the losses and voters are mad at them. that don t want to admit that. referendum on them, leadership of the republican party in washington, d.c. they have legitimate criticisms about trump i think. really it s about them. this is challenge to their authority, their stewardship of the party and came up short in the eyes of voters. no wonder they re mad. ari, i think you re right, it cements in the minds of voters these guys are all talk, no action, to use trump s words. that their word means nothing. i would argue that they caused a lot of the insurgency this year. and i also think it s deeper than that. i think it may end up backfiring, boomeranging back and helping trump here. you know, i make a distinction between the candidates who gave their word and signed a pledge who now reneged on their pledge and people like paul ryan who made no such pledge. donald trump created and asked for much of this, donald trump divided the republican party. we re going to continue to watch this unfold before us. the most assured thing you can watch is politicians will head for the hills if donald trump is down double digits remaining in august of september of 2016 to hillary. that s when the entire party will abandon him doesn t paul ryan as a leader of the republican party, he doesn t do a lot of interviews. he did this interview on purpose. he wanted to take that shot. that s right. he did. that s a reflection of paul s deeply run ideology. there s a legitimate difference between the two. and that s what politics should be. it should be the airing of differences. there is an intersection it s not a mandatory result. this one i agree with donald trump. it s better to be unified but you don t have to be unified. the question is can donald trump win a presidential election being so different from anybody who s come before him? that s what 2016 is he knocked out pretty 16 significant people. there is an intersection here, though, in terms of where he stands on health care. where he stands on the borders. where he stands on education. sending things back to the states. balancing budgets. all the things he said to me repeatedly in interviews and conservative, even though he s he s a self-identified conservative every his positions are conservative by nature so the test of america now, will paul ryan and a few others try to delegitimize the primary process, try to make an intervention on donald trump, put him in a 12-step political purge to say he s not going to change. he s not going to change. if he changes, he s going to do it to his detriment because americans and republicans and endpie independents are looking to him to stand for the things he stood for in winning in this race. don t you think, tucker, this is sabotage in a way? it seemed almost coordinating. it was all unfolds ining in a three-day period. a lot of people don t want trump to win, they d rather have hillary because the rules of the land won t change, would be recognizable politically. trump doesn t have orthodox conservative positions on a lot of things but the issue driving this above all, immigration, who s more conservative? trump who i really sincerely think wants to control the borders or paul ryan over a party who s failed to do so? the only reason barack obama got elected president twice, the demographics of the country are totally different. by design and with the complicity of republicans. who s the liberal here? all right, guys. thank you all for being here. appreciate it. coming up next tonight right here on hannity she was an unbelievably mean she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful. donald trump goes after hillary clinton very hard ca calling her nasty enabler of her husband s scandalous past. our panel will weigh in. then later tonight the nice part is now we re focusing on crooked hillary clinton. we can t have a loose cannon in the oval office. the stage now being set for a showdown between hillary clinton and donald trump in november. so whose message is resonating with you, the voters? that and more as we continue. hey! this is lloyd. to prove to you that the better choice for him is aleve. he s agreed to give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we ll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so. more pills. yep. another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? for my pain. i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap. welcome back to hannity. so donald trump unloaded on hillary clinton over the weekend and criticized the way that she handled bill clinton s scandalous past. watch this. nobody in this country, and maybe in the history of the country politically, was worse than bill clinton with women. he was a disaster. he was a disaster. i mean, there s never been anybody like this. and she was a total enabler. she would go after these women and destroy their lives. i mean, have you ever read what hillary clinton did to the women that bill clinton had affairs with? and they re going after me with women? give me a break, folks. she was an unbelievably nasty, mean, enabler and what she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful. today hillary clinton was asked about trump s remarks and here s what she said. secretary clinton, are his claims accurate and if not, do you feel any need to correct the record on this? i have nothing to say about him and how he s run his campaign. i m answering him all the time. no, i m answering him on what i think voters care about. i m answering him on the differences between our records, our experience. that is so weak. joining us now with reaction from the polling company, kelly ann conway, she used to work for a pro-cruz superpac, also here tonight, fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera. fox news contributor, monica crowley. you know, her hands are not clean here and these allegations by kathleen willie, groping, grabbing, fondling, kissing against her will and juanita broderick. this is not consensual sex. dropping his pants in front of paula jones. there s a real method to this. he s targeting millennial women. young women who weren t born at the time of the lewinsky you re aging all of us on the panel. or not old enough to remember. they re hearing this all for the first time. remember, the culture has changed. college campuses have changed. this kind of stuff is horrifying to these young women. he s speaking directly to them. if he can peel enough of them away, fwrarankly millennial men well, if he can peel enough of that constituency away from hillary, whatever democrat they run, donald trump will win. geraldo, forget about your defense over the year of clinton and lewinsky, that s difference. i have so much inside information. i don t know if i want it. you did break the story on the blue dress, didn t you? you and drudge broke the story. i broke the story. excuse me. these women were smeared, besmirched, they were attacked. it was hillary clinton stood by and never stood up for those women one time. until i broke the story that there was, indeed, the president s dna on the blue dress, on monica s infamous blue dress. there was a war on bimbos, quote/unquote, from the white house. i got that. this is from the time when you hated me. when you hit my face. i didn t hate you. you were throwing darts at it every night. i know that literally to be true. not in a bad way. literally. then once it there came a time where hillary was standing by her man where their popularity soared, hers and the president, once impeachment had been beaten back. i m not sure that was consensual. i get monica s point about the younger generation maybe. you know, i m not that in touch. but in terms of generally speaking, i think there s a lot of women out there who ve stood by their men caught in adulterous relationships. no, no, we re not talks about adultery. we re talking about assault. kathleen willie, juanita broderick, and paula jones. a whole digit story. kelly ann? paula jones, let s go back because i think even this shows how effective donald trump is at stealing the news cycles from hillary clinton. he just said dna on the blue dress. people are going to go google dna on the blue dress who don t know what he s talking about. hillary clinton today in virginia where she s trying to steal republicans against trump phantom voters she thinks is out there, she s being held to account for this. let s go back to paula jones briefly, sean. this is a low-level employee in arkansas. a power grab by the governor. he sent a state trooper to go dispatch her to his hotel room at the hotel and dropped his pants. those are facts in evidence. the last time i didn t sexually harass someone, i didn t write them a check for $850,000 which is what he did. people forget that, or lose your law license. lost his law license then the judge in arkansas held him in c contempt because he lied at the monica lewinsky trial. a late lawyer who passed away, quoted hillary s best buddy, that miss lewinsky had been a stalker and bill was the victim of a predatory and unstable sexually demanding young women. wait a minute, this is a really critical point. i m glad you brought up blumenthal. blumenthal is in the news now because he was running hillary clinton s rogue outside intelligence operation. his e-mails were the ones that got exposed that she had a private e-mail and private server and everything else. sydney blumenthal has been the clinton s hatchet person for a very long time. he s back in the news now. he s relevant because he was working with her when she was secretary of state. the fact that she used him to orchestrate she never stood up for this women. it s not like there s one, there s ten. here s the thing, here s what i like about trump. trump is going to hit hard. i love it. he s not afraid. we appreciate that aggression in this he s not going to take her crap. he s very focused and very effective, however, women are the majority of voters right now. and right now, the republicans are losing the women vote and i m not sure that this line of attack, over time really? over time kelly ann with all due respect to paula jones, gennifer flowers keep naming them. many of them. there s a dozen of them. i don t know that in of them aside from monica lewinsky have really scored in terms of the sympathy of the american people look, donald trump is not going to win the election, he s note going to win the women s vote talking about this only but he s doing it for a simple reason. hillary clinton picked this fight. she said she s playing the woman s card right back at him. she said he s a misogynist. he s saying guess who hold on. here s what women care about. they care about issues. she s been a public figure for 30 years. this is not going awaway. coming up next on hannity the nice part is we re focusing on crooked hillary clinton. we can t have a loose cannon in the oval office. donald trump, hillary clinton trades jabs on the campaign trail so whose messaging is resonating with you the voters? our pollsters coming up. later tonight you ve also been lucky. that s a pet peeve of mine. people who ve been successful and don t realize they ve been lucky. he does it again. obama tries hard to knock down successful americans saying you re all lucky. sheriff david clark, eric guster weigh in straight ahead. you totaled your brand new car. nobody s hurt, but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they ll only pay three quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? 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contentious next few months. joining us, frank luntz and former clinton pollster doug schoen? clinton. narrow low. at this point, clinton narrowly. i think trump, it could be very close. hillary starts out with 47 % of the vote. we got to see. now, we were just discussing, donald trump hit hillary hard in way no other republican can. right. is that going to be effective. you know what it is, frank and i used to work for a guy named arthur finkelsteen, worked for nixon, nixon s pollster. he used to say a crook always beats a fool. so when you re the crook like hillary clinton, you re going to try to make the other guy a fool. that s what hillary clinton is doing to donald trump. he s got to react. she has high negatives, too. she s got a 57% unfavorable in the last poll and could go higher. people know her. when you ask what do you like least about her, they say she s dishonest and she s a liar. look, you can win, as you re suggesting, being perceived as not being honest. the democrats have an electoral college substantial advantage. trump s negative is higher. on issues like the social issues, hillary clinton is going to benefit because millennial women as you re discussing are pro-choice. they re also anti-smearing and besmirching of innocent women. well, let s put it this way. donald trump has not exactly run a kinder and gentler campaign. but it doesn t matter. i think, frank, when people do learn about hillary which there will be a vetting, and the vetting will be right here on this show. i promise you. i think people will know a lot more by the time november comes around and i don t think any of it s going to favor her in any way. i think you re making a mistake here that donald trump s strength is not just hillary clinton s negative, the fact that donald trump is the anti-establishment candidate. if you had spd had enough higher taxes, enough wasteful washington spending, enough corruption, enough mistakes on the world stage, enough of all of this, then you have to vote against hillary clinton. i actually think the most powerful word in this entire election campaign is that word, enough. if donald trump says it enough times sean, there s one other word. jobs. if he tops an economic growth program, he can win. so far, no evidence of it. that s where he s got to take the offense to her. in our last poll, we said do you want to continue the policies of barack obama? no. 57% said no. every vote for trump, he s got to show them on policy. he needs to take the campaign to her and beat her on the policies frank, last word. i just this is an anti-washington mood. it s an anti-washington electorate. hillary clinton represents for the last three decades, she represents everything that s wrong with washington. this is the opportunity for donald trump. if it s clinton in washington, then trump wins. she will be running as far away from obama as she can. see, we brought frank already embraced her the whole nominating process. look at this, we brought frank around. yeah. i guess we just got frank on trump s side. amazing. coming up next tonight on hannity yes, you ve worked hard but you ve also been lucky. that s a pet peeve of mine. people who ve been successful and don t realize they ve been lucky. ah. the president has a new, oh, you didn t build that moment. he s just saying successful people just got lucky. eric guster next. the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we re born. because, healthier doesn t happen all by itself. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness. and believing a single life can be made better by millions of others. as a health services and innovation company optum powers modern healthcare by connecting every part of it. so while the world keeps searching for healthier we re here to make healthier happen. quite like the human foot. introducing the 255 horsepower lexus is 300 all-wheel-drive. with twenty-five percent more base horsepower. once driven, there s no going 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or not. there come months i had lunch with the queen of england and hosted kendrick oeman in the voefal office. i think everything we ve learned tells us we ll never come out on top if we accept advice from carnival barker who s pretend the greatest country on earth can look inward. the future is a low stinted version of a past that did not exist in any case. i think that everyone here, especially the las of 2016 understands that. internally. you re about to graduate into a complex and borderless world. here with reaction is david clark, if you re successful, you didn t do that, you re lucky. you re lucky. we re going to have a borderless world, too. that is coming. he d know about luck. this guy went from community organizer to occupying the highest office in the land. but you know when you think about it, he doesn t believe in human potential or a person s ability to work hard, overcome obstacles and go on and reach places. god blesses all of us in different ways. i m not as talented as jordan speith in golf but i do have potential. i worked hard and got my education. it was not lucky i got to a graduate program in the u.s. naval post graduate academy. i had to work my ass off. and for someone to stand up at the end and tell me i was lucky i would have been insulted. the address at my master s graduation, he said be bold and aggressive in leading. he didn t telled me the world wasn t fair. eric guster is lucky he s on the show. just luck. nothing to do with his talent. what president obama is saying is that you have to be have to have perseverance. he didn t yes, he did. i have had every word of the 30 minute speech. he said yes, get your education. also, it comes with a bit of luck as well. eric, you didn t luck your way through law school. you should be offended, too. it s just the wrong message to give young minds coming out of college. he should have talked about perseverance, you re going to fail, get over it, get up, and move on. don t blame racism and the world for not being fair. that is what young people need to hear. his message was clearly make sure that you get your education and it does come with a bit of luck. with opportunities i ve been, i had thrown at me, and been accepted into, then, that came with meeting the right person, getting the right introduction. that is a bit of luck. and also takes work and also, it takes hard dedication in doing those things. for example i wish we had opportunity and luck. we re lucky, we re out of time. there goes your opportunity out of the window. thanks for joining us. coming up a important question of the day, straight ahead. i invest with e trade, where investors can investigate and invest in vests. or not in vests. this is my retirement. retiring retired tires. and i never get tired of it. are you entirely prepared to retire? plan your never tiring retiring retired tires retirement with e trade. plan your never tiring retiring re(man) that show.t to record (woman) now we have to wait 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good evening. and we begin tonight with that highly anticipated moment, the meeting between two political heavyweights. donald trump and house speaker paul ryan, who has said he is not ready to endorse trump. trump with a wave as he arrived for the washington meeting. afterwards, speaker paul ryan revealing the mood of the meeting, but there was no photo released of the two together. ryan saying they re still getting to know one another. no handshakes shown, no endorsement. and tonight, there is also news on trump and his proposed muslim ban. abc s tom llamas outside the meeting in washington. reporter: he s railed against washington for months. but today, donald trump came to capitol hill waving an olive branch, not a fist. i was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. i do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified. reporter: ryan has strongly condemned one of trump s biggest campaign promises. a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. reporter: but now, it sounds like trump is softening. just one day before meeting ryan, calling the muslim ban just a suggestion. it s a temporary ban. it hasn t been called for yet, nobody s done it. this is just a suggestion until we find out what s going on. reporter: so, is paul ryan now sold on donald trump? abc s jon karl asked him. are you endorsing donald trump? if you re not, what is holding you back? and do you really have a choice? the process of unifying the republican party, which just finished a primary about a week ago, perhaps one of the most divisive primaries in memory, takes some time. reporter: the trump motorcade now under way, headed to his next meeting, on schedule. trump not stopping to talk to all the cameras. in fact, all day, not a word from the outspoken billionaire. but tonight, this. i think we really had a great meeting today, and i think we agree on a lot of things and it will be a little process, but it will come along. and ryan himself seeming to acknowledge the irony of it all, tweeting a picture with schoolchildren, calling this his most important meeting of the day. and david, as for hillary clinton tonight, she s hitting trump, saying he s playing fast and loose when it comes to the muslim ban and tweeting, he s trying to backpedal, don t let him. tom llamas tonight. tom, thank you. let s get right to jon karl. and jon, paul ryan says, this is only the beginning. you heard that. no endorsement yet. but we also saw those battleground polls last night. donald trump actually leading hillary clinton in ohio. is there a risk for some republicans if they don t get behind trump? reporter: there is absolutely a risk, david, and paul ryan knows it. the bottom line is, virtually everybody i spoke to today expects that he will ultimately endorse donald trump, but this may take awhile. he cannot afford to be at war with his party s own presidential nominee. he made clear at the meeting today that trump must represent all republicans, including the many that voted against him, david. and he also made it clear that this endorsement may come, but it will not come any time soon. all right, jon karl with us, as well. jon, thank you. we turn next tonight, to two officers suspended this evening after claims of excessive force. all of this after an hour-long police chase, crossing state lines. the driver in the pickup truck, finally stopping, crawling out, kneeling on the ground. then multiple officers rushing forward and making their move on him. tonight, as i mentioned, two officers relieved of duty, and abc s gio benitez is in new hampshire. reporter: that high speed chase taking police across state lines. cars speeding at more than 100 miles per hour. got a pursuit coming up behind you. reporter: but at the end, in new hampshire, a sight now shocking state investigators. you can see the suspect getting out of the car, first on his knees, then lying down, but punches fly. law enforcement officers appear to beat him. they all stepped out of their cars, and then he just surrendered. and all of a sudden, you just saw all the cops start beating up on him and stuff. reporter: late this afternoon, two state troopers suspended without pay. the state attorney general launching an investigation into use of force. i want the public and law enforcement personnel to know that the division of state police does not condone the unjustified use of force and it will not be tolerated. reporter: you can see the bruised suspect here, richard simone, on the run in massachusetts for warrants including assault and battery with a dangerous weapon. obviously, i think anyone who looks at the video is disturbed by it, but again, we don t jump to conclusions. we need to find out exactly what happened. reporter: and david, we re now learning that just five days ago, the suspect led police on another chase. he got away. but this time, he ended up right here at this dead end. david? gio benitez tonight. gio, thank you. next, to the outrage this evening after george zimmerman late today put the gun he used when trayvon martin was killed back up for auction, to make money off that gun. zimmerman recently getting it back from police, after he was acquitted of murder and manslaughter in martin s death. abc s matt gutman on the controversy, making that money off of a weapon. and i didn t think i hit him. reporter: george zimmerman really wants to sell the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. this morning, his auction page heralding the sale of an american firearm icon rejected by the host site just minutes before it went live. but not before more than 200,000 people perused the page, replete with pictures of the gun taken during zimmerman s 2013 murder trial for the death of martin. zimmerman was acquitted. zimmerman telling the orlando fox station i m a free american. and can i do what i d like with my possessions. reporter: then, this afternoon, the same exact offer popping up on this gun website. zimmerman writing he was, quote, honored and humbled to sell the gun. opening bid? $5,000. zimmerman even suggesting it should be displayed at the smithsonian. the venerable washington, d.c. museum shot that down, tweeting that it has no plans to ever collect or display it. david, zimmerman writes that part of the proceeds will go to fighting his perceived enemies, including hillary clinton. only problem is, so far, there have been zero bids on that gun. david? matt gutman with us tonight. thanks, matt. next, to the tsa under fire at this hour, after a blistering hearing on cop toll hill. already lines so long at america s airports, some passengers have been told now to arrive three hours before their domestic flights. even the airlines are now complaining on behalf of the passengers. also tonight, the agency facing new accusations, paying huge bonuses with taxpayer dollars. your money. here s abc s david kerley. reporter: long lines at tsa. today, at newark. this is a nightmare. reporter: denver telling passengers to arrive up to three hours early. i ve never really been in a line that is this long. reporter: these long waits meaning thousands are missing flights. now airlines are asking passengers to tweet pictures under #ihatethewait. a message delivered to the head of tsa by congress. that s not acceptable. i am so livid. reporter: for the first time, the white house is blaming congress for the long lines. the reason? tighter security measures after failed tests. more flyers. but no additional funding for new officers. we do not have enough people currently to staff our lanes. reporter: but tsa was blasted for a $90,000 bonus to one of its top officials, even though the screeners he supervises failed those tests to detect banned weapons. the bonus? delivered in $10,000 increments, all before the current administrator arrived. looks like something s being hidden. i don t think it s right, and i stopped that practice. reporter: and here s the bad news. the busy summer travel season hasn t even started, when a record number of passengers are expected to get in line. david? all right, david kerley with us, as well end tonight. thank you. we turn next here to the severe weather, on alert for heavy rain and strong winds from kentucky to the carolinas at this hour. the worst of them, this ef-4 tornado that hit oklahoma. we showed you the pictures, those swirling winds. up to 175 miles an hour. that was incredible. and tonight here, for the first time, we re now hearing the 911 calls during that tornado. here s abc s kayna whitworth. reporter: tonight, oklahoma residents cleaning up after more damaging storms. you see that? took a house. oh, no. reporter: this, as we hear the desperate calls for help after the most powerful tornado of the year touched down near wynnewood. tornado s right at our window! okay, ma am ma am, take shelter in the lowest part of your house. reporter: the woman telling dispatch she lives in a trailer with no tornado shelter. we re out in the barn. there s an old barn that s been out here for, like, 30 years. okay. then you just need to hunker down right now. this tornado, a violent tornado, gets even closer and closer to wynnewood. reporter: another caller fearing the worst at a home that was hit. there is a girl that was in that house and i m afraid she s trapped. we cannot get ahold of her. reporter: we tracked the dangerous storm into the night. we ve already seen two tornadoes touch down, so, it s already been an active day. twisters killing two people that evening. it looks like a lawn mower went through here. reporter: residents now bracing for the next round. kayna whitworth, abc news, los angeles. kayna, thank you. we turn now to the olympics in rio, and new concern tonight for the american athletes. the games now just three months away, and this evening, one health official saying the games should be postponed. just as we get new images of an american patient, and what zika looks like. the symptoms, after he came down with it. here s abc s linsey davis. nail that exit point. reporter: as these athletes prepare to represent the u.s. in rowing, a call for the summer olympics in brazil to be canceled or postponed because of zika. an article in the harvard public health review this week calls it a no-brainer for the olympic organizers, k that the rio 2016 games must not proceed to avoid a full-blown global health disaster. but the nation s top infectious disease official disagrees. there is not a universal systemic threat to anyone there because zika is generally a mild disease. reporter: while meghan o leary and ellen tomek say they may want to have children in the future, right now, they re focused on bringing home the gold. so, was there never a question in your mind whether you would go to rio or not? never a question. this is going to be just another hurdle or another obstacle to have to face, but you know, we re going. reporter: they plan to take the necessary precautions to avoid this. these are pictures of the infection on a new york man who returned from puerto rico, with bloodshot eyes and a painful rash that spread all over his body. today, health officials told congress, its shortsightedness is making the zika problem even worse, by failing to provide the necessary funding to fight it. david? linsey davis, thank you. we turn now to an abc news investigation tonight, and this simple question. when you buy something that says made in america, can you be sure it really is? tonight, what we found, and the american workers outraged. so many of you at home still tweeting us the dish towels, for example, complete with the american flag. down below, made in china. that label for oven mitts by american mills, made in pakistan. and how about the united states sweaters, made in china? but those companies defending themselves, telling us, they clearly labeled them made overseas. director lev kubiak showed us the deliberate fake of that language learning tool, rosetta stone. it turns out, some are copying it, saying it s made here, when it s not. this looks like the rosetta stone you would order from the american company. right. and yet this one came from came from china. look closer. the spelling errors. 100% guaranteed, missing an e. even the state department spelled wrong. and tonight, we ve now learned it s not just online shoppers being duped. it s american taxpayers. government agencies trying to buy made in america supplies with your tax dollars. right down to the silverware they think has long been made in america. take a look at general services administration advantage.gov. they sell supplies to those government agencies. many with budgets mandating that they buy american when available. that s why, on the site, they have a clear made in category. search silverware, and you ll find made in the united states of america right next to this spoon. but how can you be sure that what taxpayers are buying is really made here? we went to find the spoons, liberty tabletop, made in new york, selling their silverware to the navy, the air force, the army. but it turns out, they re fighting mad, because they started to lose business. nobody could tell us why. because also on that website, other distributors like thompson and little, listed here as made in the usa, but when we called the manufacturer, they told our team, they make this spoon overseas. these knives? made in china. and this flatware set? made in china, too. and back in new york, they say this mislabeling is costing american jobs. there s a lot of people that are purchasing, unbeknownst to them, products that are not being made where they say they re being made. why are they labeled as made in america in the first place? the government doesn t really police this. it s the distributor of the products listing their own information. a&e supply, with these forks, made in china, but labeled made in the united states of america, telling us the product is no longer sold on that site and has been removed, due to the error. telling us, the listings are honest mistakes. and they re now modifying the website. those american workers in upstate new york tonight argue those mistakes can t be fixed soon enough. think about this. for every $100,000 we sell, it s probably a job. that s 30, 40 more jobs we could provide in new york. the jobs are overseas. the made in america team will stay on it. that website, the gsa, well, authorities there now say they ve given the distributors until the end of this month to correct their listings or be barred from selling. there is still much more ahead on world news tonight this thursday. and breaking news moments ago. a new statement just in from joan rivers daughter about the death of her mother. we ll have the new developments, coming up. also, lost at sea. the two teenagers who vanished on a fishing trip, the last known images right there. and now comes new word about that iphone found on their boat. and late today, these images coming in, a roller coaster stuck with more than 60 passengers dangling for hours. you ll see how it ends in just a moment. ment. . of diabetic nerve pain, these feet were the first in my family to graduate from college, raised active twin girls, and trained as a nurse. but i couldn t bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. nerve damage from diabetes causes diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is fda approved to treat this pain. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling or blurry vision. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs, and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. now i have less diabetic nerve pain. and i love helping little ones get off on the right foot. ask your doctor about lyrica. i tabut with my back paines, i couldn t sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i m back. aleve pm for a better am. next t next tonight, a new statement just released by joan rivers daughter, after the medical malpractice lawsuit involving her mother s death. here tonight, abc s mara schiavocampo. reporter: tonight, a settlement in the joan rivers medical malpractice lawsuit. in a statement, her daughter melissa saying, i am able to put the legal aspects of my mother s death behind me. the 81-year-old died in september 2014, following a routine throat procedure at this new york city medical clinic. rivers went into cardiac arrest. her daughter s subsequent lawsuit claiming the comic legend s personal doctor performed an unauthorized biopsy during that throat procedure, took selfies with the star while she was unconscious and also claims, none of the doctors involved notice her vital signs were plummeting. while melissa rivers statement does not say how much the settlement is for, it s reportedly substantial. now, the doctors involved did not dispute the lawsuit s findings. melissa rivers says she s glad they ve accepted responsibility, and she will now devote herself to improving standards of outpatient care. david? 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reporter: dan, if charges are filed in this case it would be what you would call rape, or sexual assault under color of authority. now, the police chief calls these serious allegations and the district attorney is investigating and our sources tell us there are possibly five, or more, women who stepped forward, claiming they re sexually assaulted by this former officer. we re conducting an investigation. reporter: the da would not go into detail. it s misconduct while on duty, in manner in which he dealt with women. the student newspaper in sacramento profiled noah winchester two years ago. at the time, he was with a campus police department. he talked about his role in keeping everyone safe.
and breaking developments tonight involving prince. what investigators have just taken. and the face revealed. who is the mystery doctor? good evening. and we begin tonight with that deadly disaster, the explosion here in the u.s. that took the lives of 15 and destroyed dozens of homes. tonight, authorities have now revealed it was, in fact, a criminal act. it began with a fire at a fertilizer plant in west texas. and the massive explosion that followed, registering as strong as a magnitude 2.1 earthquake. so many lives lost on that night. hundreds, in fact, were injured. but this evening, three years and 400 interviews later, what authorities have just revealed, as they now issue a major reward for help. abc s phillip mena is in texas. reporter: we remember that father in the car with his daughter. you okay? yeah, i can t hear. reporter: the explosion. the fear. please, get out of here. oh, my god. reporter: the blast, the smoke seen from all over town. families sheltering one another. cowering behind cars. roofs collapsed. the top floor of this apartment complex torn off. oh, my god. people s houses are on fire. reporter: homes, neighborhoods on fire. rescue teams racing in to help. oh, my god. reporter: 15 killed. hundreds injured. and tonight, federal and state investigators say the fire that triggered the deadly explosion at a fertilizer plant in west texas was intentionally set. the fire has been ruled as incendiary. this means this fire was a criminal act. reporter: authorities telling us, the hunt is on tonight for the perpetrator or perpetrators that took the lives of so many. we want the community to know that we haven t forgotten about those 12 first responders and those three other individuals who were just living their lives. so, we owe it to them to go where this investigation leads us. reporter: three years later, the town is still recovering. the community, the school here, coming back to life. and driving through neighborhoods today, we saw street after street rebuilt. vi talbot, happy to be home. but you moved back. yes, i moved back. yes, yeah. and phillip mena joins us now from west texas. and you can see there behind you, phillip, no sign of that fertilizer plant that once stood right there. any leads tonight after those 400 interviews? reporter: well, that s right, david. this empty lot behind me is all that is left from the blast. authorities telling me tonight, they are following leads, but so far, no arrests, and no suspects. and tonight, a $52,000 reward is being offered. david? phillip mena leading us off tonight. phillip, thank you. we are also learning much more this evening about that deadly rampage inside an american mall. the suspect ramming his stolen car right through the door of that department store and then slashing victims at random. some did not survive. and tonight, we hear from shoppers inside, as this all unfolded. as we also learn of an off-duty officer who jumped in. abc s gio benitez is in massachusetts. reporter: this mall, now a crime scene. 28-year-old arthur darosa checked himself into a hospital monday night. his sister told police he had been acting in a disturbed manner, but was released this next morning. by 6:00 p.m., darosa left his child s soccer practice. shortly after, crashing his car. then, police say, he entered a random house where he stabbed 80-year-old patricia slavin and her daughter, kathleen. they were taken to the hospital, where patricia later died. at 6:40 p.m., darosa allegedly then drove that crashed car here to the galleria mall, slamming into the front of macy s. assaulting at least three women before running to the bertucci s restaurant. he was slashing people. and people were throwing chairs at him. reporter: stabbing waitress sheenah savoy. 56-year-old teacher george heath tried to stop the attack. the suspect allegedly stabbing heath. i lost a good man. reporter: off-duty sheriff s deputy james creed fired a single bullet. the suspect later dying at the hospital. the deputy being called a hero tonight. and david, behind me, you can see that boarded up entrance, where the car crashed. meanwhile, we ve learned tonight that the waitress who survived is pregnant. she s in serious condition right now, david. gio benitez from massachusetts tonight. thanks, gio. a major new development this evening in the case that captured national attention. federal charges have been filed against former police officer michael slager, after the shooting death of walter scott in south carolina in this field. slager shooting scott eight times. tonight, an historic move from the federal government against the officer. abc s steve osunsami was in the charleston courtroom as the indictment was read. reporter: 34-year-old michael slager is now the first. the first former police officer from one of the many racially charged police shootings, to face federal charges. registration and insurance card? reporter: it all started with this traffic stop and a broken tail light a little over a year ago. no registration in there, no insurance? no, he has all that stuff. reporter: 50-year-old walter scott, worried about child support issues, decided to run. and here s where the federal grand jury says slager went too far. handcuffed and shackled in court today, he heard the three charges, including allegedly lying to investigators before this video, first revealed by abc news, told a different story. the most serious charge means life in federal prison if he s convicted. deprivation of civil rights under the color of law accuses him of abusing his authority as a law enforcement officer, by using unreasonable force. slager is pleading not guilty, saying it was self-defense. outside court, walter scott s mother wept for her son. i thank god for justice, and i claim it and i stand on the word. reporter: slager is home tonight, wearing a gps tracking device and using the same half a million dollar bond from his state murder case. for now, that trial is still scheduled for october. david? thank you, steve. next, to new developments after the deadly attack on a planned parenthood clinic in colorado. tonight, a judge ruling that the gunman, robert dear, is mentally incompetent to stand trial. dear has confessed to killing three people at the clinic last november, claiming he was a, quote, warrior for the babies. dear will be sent to a psychiatric hospital. now, to the growing firestorm over donald trump and his tax returns. he has not released them. trump saying he is being audited, and that his taxes will be made public when the audit is complete. tonight, what if that s not until after the election? and, we ask, does an audit prevent a candidate from revealing their taxes? abc s tom llamas on what we ve just learned. reporter: donald trump loves to boast about his fortune. i m worth over $10 billion, and i don t say that bragging, folks. i have tremendous cash flow. i m really rich. i ll show you that in a second. reporter: but so far, he s refusing to prove it. and tonight, the associated press reporting trump says he may not release his tax returns until after the election, adding, quote, there s nothing to learn from them. but just three days ago, trump signaled he wanted those returns out before november. you don t learn much from tax returns. but i would love to give the tax returns. reporter: now, trump could be the first major presidential candidate in 40 years to refuse to release the information. tonight, hillary clinton asking, what s trump hiding? my husband and i have released 33 years of tax returns. so, you got to ask yourself, why doesn t he want to release them? yeah, well, we re going to find out. reporter: trump has waffled on releasing his returns for months. in february, tweeting this image, signing a recent tax return. isn t this ridiculous? that same month, this explanation. i will absolutely give my return, but i m being audited now, for two or three years, so, i can t do it, until the audit is finished, obviously. reporter: he s not the first candidate reluctant to disclose their returns. in 2012, david asking mitt romney why he wouldn t reveal his taxes. can we clear this up by asking you a simple yes or no question? was there ever any year when you paid lower than the 13.9%? i haven t calculated that. i m happy to go back and look. reporter: romney ultimately did release his tax returns well before election day. and tonight, he s slamming trump for not doing the same, calling it disqualifying, adding, there s only one logical explanation. there is a bombshell in them. and tom llamas with us live tonight. tom, you ve been doing some digging. is there anything in federal law that prevents trump from releasing his tax returns if he s being audited by the irs? reporter: david, we reached out to tax experts and they tell us, regardless of the audit, there is no law preventing trump from releasing his tax returns. this is his choice. david? tom llamas with us tonight. thanks, tom. next, to a dangerous night ahead for millions. tornado warnings in effect. severe storms from texas all the way up through the carolinas. a flash flood emergency near nashville, tennessee, creating chaos during the commute. and tonight, the national weather service now declaring that this monster tornado right here in oklahoma was an ef-4. abc s alex perez on what that means about its size and the speed of those winds, as they now fear more coming tonight. reporter: blinding rain and howling winds making for a dangerous commute in st. louis. a tree falling onto three homes. an extensive amount of damage has been caused. reporter: firefighters on scene. earlier, high water and debris trapping families northeast of nashville. praying. doing a lot of praying. and it worked. the good lord brought us through it. reporter: it s the same system that dropped this tornado in mayfield, kentucky. there it is. look at that house, it s gone. this is where my house was. reporter: today, we met brittany jackson. that s her home, now wrapped around that tree. i was hysterical when i seen it. all i could do is just cry and say, my house is gone. reporter: and tonight oh, no. reporter: the national weather service says that massive tornado in wynnewood, oklahoma, was an ef-4, with winds up to 175 miles an hour. by far, the strongest tornado of the year. and david, here s a closer look at what s left of brittany jackson s home. the steel frame bent like a wire around this tree. tonight, officials telling us the tornado here, a powerful ef-3, 140-mile-per-hour winds. david? and another night ahead. all right, alex, thank you. overseas tonight, and our martha raddatz has just touched down in iraq. in baghdad, three separate car bombs spreading terror and taking lives. isis tonight claiming responsibility. and here are the images. stunned people on the streets, as we learned members of several bridal parties were among the victims. the violence in iraq, just as more american troops are sent to the region, even closer to the front lines against isis. and martha and her team are there. reporter: the most violent day in baghdad this year began with an isis car bomb. ripping apart this market, killing 63. reportedly among them, brides and grooms getting ready for their weddings. two more car bombs exploded in other parts of the city, taking at least 93 lives in total and wounding hundreds. and as the danger increases here, more american troops are heading into harm s way. about 200 additional americans are soon to be deployed as advisers to the iraqi army. but they will be closer to the front lines than ever. just last week, adviser and navy s.e.a.l. charles keating iv was killed in a fire fight with isis. the third american combat loss since the u.s. forces returned to iraq. despite the recent violence, the u.s. says the iraqi military has retaken momentum from isis. as the enemy loses more and more terrain, they resort to some of these desperate acts. and martha raddatz reporting in now from baghdad. and as you reported there, martha, more american troops are now headed into harm s way and the fight against isis there. so, is isis losing ground and getting more desperate? reporter: david, isis has lost significant amounts of territory, but they still hold iraq s second-largest city, mosul. and there s very little change the iraqis and americans can take it back by the end of this year. so, that will be on the shoulders of our next president. david? all right, martha raddatz just touching down in iraq. martha, thank you. meantime, back home and the new details in the fight against isis here. fbi director james comey revealing today the agency is tracking nearly 800 isis-related cases, right here in the u.s., and that the number continues to go up. but comey also said that isis is attracting fewer terror recruits from this country to iraq and to syria. we turn next here tonight to your money, and anyone who pays property taxes, taxes for your local school district will want to weigh in on this one. in one community in texas, a heated debate tonight, after moving forward, spending $63 million for a high school football stadium. $63 million. here s abc s matt gutman. reporter: in the texas of tv s friday night lights, where high school football is big clear eyes, full hearts, can t lose. can t lose! reporter: stadiums are getting even bigger. the town of mckinney, texas, just voted to build this giant 12,000-seat stadium. the price tag, colossal. nearly $63 million. the decision, not without controversy. please vote no. reporter: critics say taxpayers should not be pumping this much money into high school football. we ve got a perfectly fine stadium. reporter: but the school district is hinting at what you might call texas stadium inflation. pointing to behemoths like the ones in cady and allen, texas. both priced at about $60 million. the school district assures us it will be a multipurpose facility, david, and besides, they say, they want their kids to get the same opportunities as the kids get at the other schools. david? 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