why are weig four-game it? >> i hate to tell you this, but this is a rare case where i would say after 25 years in government, believe the government official, and the reason is twofold. first, when you're in the terrorism business, and i sat at the threat table with attorney general holder four years ago. when you're in the threat business in terrorism, every person counts. three cases, five cases, ten cases, if you make one mistake on one case, a shopping mall gets shot up. that's a disaster. in this case you're talking about dozens of kids coming home, and in the counterterrorism world that is a flood of people, so the first problem you're facing is volume. the second problem i would mention is time. we've been at this civil war in syria for four years. isis has been on a roll for months. if you consider that already we've had dozens of kids come home. what about 2015, 2016, when does this end? >> all right. so hold on a second, because from my perspective syria is a situation we've backed away from. i mean, it will come as a