0 baird, part of an extreme rope swing video, being put together by devon graham, but when it was jessica's turn to jump -- >> three, two, one, zero! >> reporter: even a countdown couldn't jump-start her. >> two, one, zero! >> i don't want to do it. >> reporter: for 45 minutes, she tried, and then kiss turned to shove. >> ahhh! i'm breaking up with you! >> i just got dumped! >> reporter: but before you say, you jerk, consider what jessica told crayton 45 minutes earlier. >> you know, i'm really nervous about this, i don't know if i'll be able to jump. if i can't jump, you need to push me. >> reporter: but when he did, his reputation took a dive, as he told "inside edition". >> i feel i have taken chris brown's spot as the worst boyfriend in america. >> reporter: make that worst ex-boyfriend. her at the end of her rope line -- >> i'm breaking up with you! >> reporter: -- had them in stitches on kimmel. but it turns out -- >> i've since broken up, having nothing to do with the video, i have zero hard feelings for crayton. the breakup happened about a month after the show for reasons that jessica prefers to keep quiet. but when she climbed back up, right after he pushed her -- >> i think i punched him first, but then gave him a big hug and told him thanks for making it easy for me. >> reporter: she said the reason for giving this interview, her first, was to clear her name, and though her one liner is already being parodied by boy scouts -- >> i'm breaking up with you! >> reporter: crayton is no cretin. >> he's not a monster, he's not mean, he's nothing like chris brown, no offense, chris brown. >> reporter: at least it's the relationship that ended up on the rocks and not jessica. ahhh! >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn -- >> i'm breaking up with you! >> reporter: -- new york. >> every time i see it, oh, my god. >> that's it for us. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, rand paul talked and talked and talked last night for almost 13 hours and yet he still has enough of a voice to talk to us tonight. plus, north korea backs the drum of war. kim jong-un threatens to launch a preemptive strike against the united states. and a 24-year-old intern killed by a lion at an animal sanctuary. the young woman's father joins us tonight. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, senator rand paul declares victory after a filibuster that lasted 12 hours, 52 minutes, and 11 seconds, because who's counting, the man who staged the randpage finally got the answer he wanted from the white house. >> does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an american, not engaged in combat on american soil? the answer is no. >> and in return, the white house got what it wanted too, john brennan was confirmed today as cia director in a 63-43 vote in the senate. it was brennan's nomination, of course, that paul was holding up with his close to epic filibuster. but not everyone in senator paul's own party is celebrating his win. >> all i can say is that i don't think that what happened yesterday is helpful to the american people. >> tonight, senator rand paul is somehow still standing, and i spoke with him just moments ago, and i asked him whether it was worth it 12 hours, 52 minutes, and 11 seconds for what is essentially a two-letter response, n-0. >> absolutely. i think, you know, the idea that the constitution applies to all american citizens and that the military will not be using military strikes against american citizens, i think such an important principle that i could have gone eight more minutes and gone to 13 hours, maybe. but, no, i think the response was important. you don't always get a response from the white house when you make an argument, but we have been asking for six weeks for this response. the fact that we got it, i feel like it's a victory for us. >> all right. i know you feel that way. but, of course, you're no stranger to this, but there's been some harsh criticism, this time, though, from some pretty big names in your own party. here's what some of your senate colleagues on the republican side had to say about your big day yesterday. >> somehow, to allege that the united states of america, our government, would drop a drone hellfire missile on jane fonda, that -- that -- that is -- that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about u.s. policy to the realm of the ridiculous. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here, suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. >> so senators mccain and graham, and on the "wall street journal" editorial board this morning, they took you in their sights, saying, "calm down, senator. mr. holder is right, even if he doesn't explain the law very well. the u.s. government cannot randomly target american citizens on u.s. soil or anywhere else. if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up more than impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about." >> here's the response, erin. that editorial goes on to say that they can't target americans, unless we designate them as enemy combatants, which begs the question, who gets to make the judgment who's an enemy combatant and who's not? who gets to make the judgment, oh, he's associated with terrorists. if you write an e-mail to your cousin in lebanon and they might be a terrorist or they might have friends who are terrorists, somehow, you are without getting a trial by jury. these are the same two senators that argued in favor of indefinite detention, which means, and i asked senator mccain this directly, i said, does this mean you could take an american citizen, without a trial, and send them to guantanamo bay for the rest of their life, without ever charging them, and he said, yes, if they're a safety risk. who gets to decide? senator mccain? does he get to decide if you're an enemy combatant? i'm alarmed by anybody, any adult, or any senator who would say that they get to judge your guilt and without a charge send you to indefinite detention. these are the same people who are also arguing that the laws of war apply to america, because america is the battlefield. in the law of war, the conclusion to that is that you don't get due process. so what they're arguing for is alarming. every american should be alarmeded and worried about the philosophy behind their arguments. >> and i understand what you're saying. i get the logic of that. but, you know, you've said in the past that you would have convicted al awlaki of treason, and you wouldn't have been against a drone strike against him. how can you be all right with al awlaki killed in yemen by a drone, and not be okay with him being killed by a drone here if he's an enemy combatant plotting against america in america. >> i think, in america, we have a doctrine of lethal force if you're using lethal force. a person named awlaki has a grenade launcher on his shoulder, they can be wiped out with lethal force by the police, by the fbi. if you're robbing a liquor store -- >> so the issue is the drone? you don't mind killing him, it's the drone? >> no, it has nothing to do with that. you can use lethal force when somebody is committing lethal force. but what we're doing with our targeted drone attacks is we're often killing people that are not actively involved in any kind of battlefield. so if we transmit that standard to america, you would have people sitting in cafes, in their home at night. we don't do that in america. in america, you're accused of a crime, you would be arrested, and you would get a trial by a jury of your peers. >> i still don't understand, in the al awlaki case, because they said they had proof he had plotted against the case, but at that moment, he wasn't holding a grenade launcher, pointing it at an american citizen, when they did it. so there's a gray area in your mind? >> no, on awlaki, my opinion is that it would have been better to try him for treason, and he could have been executed, because you can have a death penalty for a treason case. for people who are engaged in a battlefield overseas, that are holding grenade launchers or firing weapons, there is no due process. my point is is that senators mccain and graham say that they want the laws of war to come home to america, that america is a battlefield, and that the laws of war come home. but the laws of war don't involve due process, and can't. and i don't think they should. so, i don't want the law of war to be the law of america, because that would mean that we would be giving up on the bill of rights. >> on a slightly lighter note, you did get some support and you got some support from the democratic side. democratic senator ron wyden spoke up and defended you. senator paul, even majority leader harry reid had some praise for you and here is that. >> i've been involved in a few filibust filibusters, as rand paul has, as rand paul did yesterday. and what i've learned from my experiences, with talking filibusters, is this. to succeed, you need strong convictions, but also a strong bladder. it's obvious, senator paul has both. >> i have to say, i was incredibly impressed by your bladder control and i was only all right with it, because you are a doctor and i figured you knew if you were taking a risk you shouldn't be taking. >> yeah, one of the things that really, there were two things that struck me about yesterday. three things. one, the public response was overwhelming, bigger than we have ever seen. the second thing that struck me was that members of the house of representatives came over spontaneously and began to support this. members of the senate came over. but really, the biggest compliment for somebody in high office up here is when people from across the aisle that don't see eye to eye with you often come and compliment you, four or five senators came by at the end today and said that they were very appreciative of my stance, and many of them actually said that they agreed with me standing up to defend, you know, the right of people to have the right to trial by jury, and this was an important battle, despite what some might want to make it. this was a big, huge victory for those who believe in the bill of rights. >> all right. thanks to senator rand paul. 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[ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. our second story "outfront," nuclear strike. north korea tonight threatening to launch a preemptive nuclear attack against the united states. and this is on the same day that the uns slapped the country with new sanctions, targeting its nuclear program. international condemnation and punishment, though, has done little to deter north korea's dictator, kim jong-un. he's been in power for 14 months, and in that power, he has launched two long-range missiles, one last april, and one again in december. then last month, the country, with a million-man army, conducted a third nuclear test. so just how dangerous is the 30-year-old kim jong-un? could he actually be worse than his father? "outfront" tonight, victor cha, a nuclear weapons expert and the former director for asian affairs at the national security council under president bush, and gordon chang, author of "nuclear showdown: north korea takes on the world." victor, how much is a threat is kim jong-un? we saw those pictures of him with his new wife. a week ago, he's seen hanging out with dennis rodman. he's often pictured doing comical and weird things, like riding amusement park rides in pyongyang. and now we're supposed to take him seriously when he says he's going to attack the u.s.? >> erin, what these things have shown recently is unpredictable is the new normal when it comes to north korea. i think we had some sense of how kim jong-il, the former leader, operated, but there's a lot that we don't know about the current leader, and his actions, as you noted earlier, have really been ranging, far beyond what we've seen in the past with north korea. i think in the end, he does want all of these western accoutrements of life, whether it's basketball or amusement parks, but he also wants his nuclear weapons and his ballistic missiles. and the problem for us is that we've always thought there was a trade here. we could do a deal, where they would trade their nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles for integration and involvement in the world. and i think it's very clear that that's not what they want. they want to have both of these things at the same time. >> and victor, how seriously should we take this? today we put the toughest sanctions ever on north korea. but that country has been under sanctions forever, and yet they're doing tests and tests and moving forward. i was with the secretary of defense in december, when they had that nuclear test, and it appears, obviously, they're working on having a missile that could strike the western coast of the united states. are they going to get there? >> well, at the rate at which they're going, it looks like they will get there. they certainly would not be able to fulfill the threats that they made today about preemptively striking the united states. but i think most experts think it's only a matter of years before they could do something along those lines. and so, this is quite concerning. and you're right, the sanctions thus far have not been able to stop the program, but i think they're still important, because the counterfactual would be if we didn't have these sanctions, they may have been further along the path than they are right now. >> let me just play what the state department spokeswoman, victoria newland, had to say about these threats. and then get your reaction. because her words were pretty interesting. >> this kind of bellicose rhetoric from the dprk is not surprising. it's not new. this regime has regularly missed the opportunity to improve its relationship with the outside world. >> gordon, obviously, she's trying not to overreact, but, you know, just to call it bellicose rhetoric, is that really what it is? it seems like a lot of people really treat north korea like it's all rhetoric, it's really a joke. but then you're saying, no, it may not be a joke. >> well, it's not a joke. they have wanted these weapons. they wanted three-stage ballistic missiles. they sell them to the world's dangerous actors, like iran, so we know there's a problem here, even if they don't use them themselves. and i actually think they can strike the u.s. today preemptively. they can take a toyota pickup truck, put a nuke in the back, and they can park it in any city. and some people in washington are concerned that the ambassador to the u.n. from north korea could actually call the white house and say, look, i've pre-positioned a bomb on the east coast, do you want to talk? so we have to be concerned, not only about their missiles, but about other ways they could sneak a device into the united states. >> and senator menendez said today, i don't think the regime in north korea wants to commit suicide, but they know that would be the result of an attack on the united states. but i ask you, is the u.s. really prepared to go to war with north korea? the u.s. doesn't appear ready to go to war right now with anyone? >> no, we are not, and we certainly don't want to with regard to north korea. but it's not our decision to make, it's theirs as well. this is not something that's entirely within our control. the north koreans are aren't going to airmail a nuke to us, because we would obliterate them. but there are other ways they could hurt us, and we wouldn't be able to fight back. we don't know where their isotopes are for the uranium. they could suspect uranium into the united states. we might suspect it's north korea, but we don't know, and if we don't know, we're not going to strike them. so the north koreans know that. >> victor, gordon, thank you very much. a pretty sobering point right there. still to come, president obama decides to close the white house to the public. we are learning tonight just how much those white house tours cost. but does it add up? as always, we try to get an answer to that question for you. and is it safe to go back in the water? 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