happy life of one of which you could learn something from everyone you are with. you don't think you know everything but if viewers do and the people who buy tickets do. to make a conclusion and grow as a person and as an intellect? >> i have a podcast twice a week. and so i've always listen to someone who is smart because i find podcast guest just something to say i want to hear. so when i talk to them have the opportunity for them to teach me >> that audience is benefiting in your benefiting? >> absolutely. the good part is learning and they bring everyone along for the ride and that's what i'm trying to do with my podcast i invite people from home so that is helpful that i write every day in writing is the most formal way of thinking. you have to ask yourself a question. you have to wait for the answers that is a revelation then you have to analyze the answer. that sort of thinking is