0 carter. you see a real secretary of state having a huge influence on the way foreign policy is carried out. and no one doubts that mrs. clinton worked really hard what did she accomplish upon humanitarian work and advancing cause of women and girls around the world. >> i'm an admirers for hillary clinton for all the reasons you scritted fourself. at the end of the day george kenan had his policy which we all know about in the 40s, 50s. we certainly know henry kissinger who i don't necessarily agree with kissinger doctrine. still unclear what the doctrine. the thing with hillary clinton is people either lionize her or despise her. as opposed to look at her like a person who is very talented at the same time also flawed. we have to look very realistically. i think she has had some accomplishments. and some set backs. set back with russia was one that didn't quite work. benghazi obviously is benghazi. so, again, i will say this as a democrat despite all of that we need to look at her realistically. certainly not the saint people think she is and spinner other people think she is. >> laura: when you think about the attempt to repair our global image. more countries probably say they like us now. with russia a place i know something about. this idea we would give a reset button to russia. poorly translated. russia was going to help us in sir yand a other places around the world. guess what the russians saw that as a sign of weakness and on issue after issue the russians are blocking our way or actually acting in a way that hearkens back to the old soviet union not the are you sure shah that we might have thought. on that one issue, russia is a huge issue doesn't get enough attention but disaster. our relationship with them is worse than it was four years ago. >> part of what we are learning is that there are limits it to our power. what funny is i feel like i'm quoting george bush in the 2000 campaign where he said we have to be more humble in our foreign policy. i don't think america is in decline. our leadership is going to be different. i think that the bush strategy of interconvention around the world was an utter failure. we actually have the worse foreign policy president in american history preceding barack obama. we -- i think hillary clinton and barack obama have put america on a much -- have v. reclaimed the tradition. >> laura: disseminated. >> they have been severely weakened, laura, come on. >> great to see both of you. >> thank you. >> up next on the rundown, new evidence the economy is still stuck in a ditch. we're going to break it down for you. and then the president's new pick for secretary of defense implodz at his confirmation