decided to poll test. if they would have poll tested it, you wouldn't have heard from the president. he needed to say something about the issue. when you look at it, we're not talking about domestic politics but there's international element to this. here the united states is trying to win the hearts and minds of muslims around the world. there was that part of the decision-making process in the president's head of why he chose to speak out. but democrats are really upset with the white house on this one. they feel like they got blindsided, that they could have been helpful to just -- have them prepare democrats for the fact that the president was going to speak out. and this is where most of the finger pointing and behind the scenes criticism is coming from. democrats are upset they couldn't have at least been given a heads-up he was going to speak on this. representative peter king said he doesn't want to make this a political issue, it's far too personal, specially in new york state, given so many friends of his who lost loved ones on 9/11. john cornyn says the administration is disconnected from america. i think his words were that voters will render their verdict in the fall. what is at stake when the president makes the political fund raising stops as we head towards november? >> republican campaign strategists see an opportunity here. i have seen a number of press releases this morning directed at chuck schumer who happens to be up for re-election in new york, a democrat, directed at barbara boxer, harry reid. there's clearly a part of this where republicans see a political opportunity to do what john cornyn said. he walked the line here, wasn't disagreeing with where the president stood on this, he was almost side stepping that aspect of the story and instead saying, this is just another example that the white house and democrats are out of touch with middle america, sort of walking that line. they see this as a cultural values issue they can somehow take advantage to tell a bigger story that they say washington is out of touch. but you do have a lot of republicans who quietly don't disagree with the president, just don't want to talk about this politically for the same reasons that the white house is now seeing how politically this story is so treacherous. >> chuck todd traveling with the president in wisconsin where he should get a warm rereception where unemployment is at 9%. breaking news now. following this from colombia, a lightning strike may be the cause of a crash by aires airline, with 131 passengers on board that broke into three pieces in a colombian island. amazing only one person was killed. officials were investigating reports that the plane had been struck by lightning while landing at the resort island of san andres. a race in california is sparking serious conversations about the safety of off-road competitions. witnesses were standing close enough to touch the rocketing vehicles one when truck slammed into a crowd of spectators. it spins off to the left. eight people standing there were killed, a dozen more were injured and photographer david konklynn was at the race, covering the event for off-road magazine. you took a photo moments before it crashed. i want to get a sense what it was like there and what you saw and what the moments were like as the accident took place. >> well, i took the photograph just before the incident happened and then i redirected my camera back up course waiting for the next vehicle to come along. i didn't see the vehicle roll or strike the crowd. but i did hear a lot of commotion, so i turned to see the vehicle come to a stop on its roof. a lot of people running towards the vehicle, dust still in the air. people screaming and shouting and i started to run over towards the vehicle itself, taking pictures as i was running along. and i got over to the vehicle to see if i could assist and by that time there was already quite a few people on the scene already starting to assist those that were injured. >> i want to get a sense, what it is like along a track, i guess if we refer to this in a track in situations like this. the trucks are literally stunningly close to the crowds. was this truck going noticeably faster than those before it or would follow it? or is this how it goes, no barricades whatsoever? >> that vehicle was traveling as fast as all other vehicles going through there. unfortunately due to the fact this was a night race and the only real visible spot before it got dark, a lot of people were in the area to see the vehicles go over the jump. you want to see a vehicle coming down the course so you lean further and by the time you got a quarter mile worth of people leaning ford, soward, some are to the course. vehicles traveling this fast, you don't have a chance to get out of the way should something go wrong at that time. david conklin, i appreciate your time and thank you. >> we want to show you another scene from southern california. check out this police chase. l.a. county sheriffs followed a couple they say stole ammunition and rifle scopes. this ended when one of the truck' tires went flat and the couple surrendered to police. at one point the suspect actually got back in his truck and then looked like he was going to take off again, thought better of it and put himself on the ground. the chase got up to 100 miles an hour. there were an unbelievable number of police cars on 110. no one was hurt, even though the couple allegedly fired a high powered rifle during the robbery earlier in the day. prosecutors in buffalo, new york admit they have the wrong guy. they are once again looking for a suspect accused of shooting eight people killing four of them. that deldly shooting happened outside a downtown restaurant early sunday morning. a man out on parole was initially charged but prosecutors say surveillance video shows who did it and it's not the guy they thought it was. the problem now is tracking down the right guy, the suspect. police say they aren't getting a lot of cooperation from witnesses at the scene. the warden and chief of security resigned from the kingman prison where three arizona inmates escaped last month. officials said there were several security lapses that led to the breakout, including the fact that no one noticed the inmates were gone for five hours. one of those inmates and his fiance are now on the lamb still, no leads in sight. investigate ares are focused on western montana, near the canadian border in the search. we are waiting for autopsy results for the suspected craigslist killer, philip markoff. they are calling for investigation into how he was able to commit suicide in his jail cell. this is the not the first time he tried to hurt himself either. jeff rossen has more on exactly what happened. jeff? >> reporter: good afternoon. everyone involved in the case told us they are shocked by it. from prosecutors who are gathering evidence and getting ready for trial, to markoff's lawyer, to his own parents who we spoke with by phone and they told us they are devastated by this. sources say inside his own jail cell, philip markoff used his background and training as a medical student to kill himself. he took a pen and stuck it into his neck and cut an artery and into his leg and cut another artery before putting a plastic bag over his head. it happened on saturday night, what would have been the one-year anniversary of his wedding to megan mcallister, the fiance who dumped him after his arrest. evidence was piling up against markoff. he was going around boston responding to adses in the erotic services section of craigslist and attacking the women inside hotel rooms. prosecutors say he murdered a massage therapist. but once again there's a huge investigation here at the prison about how this could have happened. if he killed himself on saturday night, why did it take until sunday morning after 10:00 a.m. for the prison guards to realize he was dead. he was able to go through this slow agonizing suicide of perhaps bleeding out or choking himself and sufficient ocating death. no question a shocking end to this always shocking story. now back to you. >> jeff, thank you very much. as we speak, we're keeping our eyes on wisconsin near milwaukee. president obama will be talking about the economy any minute now. as soon as that happens, we'll take you there live. we know about the wars in iraq and afghanistan, did you know the u.s. military was fighting a secret war against al qaeda and where is it taking place? those details are coming up. there was a treatment for a rare genetic disorder but it could change the sexual orientation of your baby. it's causing a lot of controversy. we'll weigh in there coming up as well. we can do bolder. ♪ the choice is yours. are you up for some sandwich kicking flavor? are you miracle whip? ♪ time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze... my eyes water. but now zyrtec®, the fastest 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there's oil out there that could make it ashore, i'm gonna do everything i can to stop it. bp's commitment is that we will see this through. and we'll be here as long as it takes to clean up the gulf. see the president of the united states, barack obama in wisconsin outside milwaukee. he is just begun his remarks at zbb energy corporation, it's a significant location, it took $16 million in the tax credit from the american recovery and reinvestment act. the president touting successes in the area. unemployment below 8% as opposed to 9.5%. if he says other things significant, we will visit with the president in a short time. a wall of hope for missing kyron horman is being moved out of his school to a new location. the oregon second grader disappeared back in june a few days before the last day of school with classes about to start up again, some parents were reportedly worried about the emotional impact of the constant reminder on returning stuntsz. meantime, kyron's family started its own website called bring kyron home.org. it's dedicated to the search of their little boy. searchers on the ground are combing a forest for a missing 4-year-old. the boy was playing with other kids sunday night when he disappeared into a wooded area. friends, family and volunteers all a part of this search now. police say there is no indication at this time of foul play. for a few hours on sunday, at least one section of the u.s. is border with mexico, sealed tight as a trum. 400 tea party acty vits in a show of support for arizona's new immigration law and the lacking federal security. joe arpaio and republican senate candidate j.d. heyworth. we want to go back to wisconsin and take a quick listen. >> a state like wisconsin or my home state of illinois can tell a lot of stories about how badly hit manufacturing was, particularly in the midwest. now, there's some who suggest this decline is inevitable, but i don't see it that way. and i know neither do you. yes, times are tough, but we've been through tough times before. and we've ahead it through because we are resilient. americans are resilient, don't give in to possepossess mix. we work to shape our own defendant knni destiny as a cou. we've been fighting on all fronts, inch by inch, foot by foot, mile by mile to get this country moving forward again and going after every single job we can create right here in the united states of america. so we're investing in 21st century infrastructure, roads, bridges, high speed railroads, projects that will lead to hundreds of thousands of private sector jobs but will also lay the groundwork so our kids and grandkids can keep prosper. we've cut taxes for small business that's higher unemployed workers. in fact, i've signed seven other small business tax cuts so entrepreneurs can help expand and buy now equipment and add more employees. we've taken emergency steps to prevent layoffs of hundreds of thousands of teachers and firefighters and police officers and other critical public serve ants in our communities and i think governor doyle will testify, we have made progress in part because everybody pulled together. there was a great danger of greater layoffs all across the state for vital services that would affect our kids and our families. these folks would have otherwise lost their jobs because of state and local budget cuts. and at the same time what we've been trying to do and that's why i'm here at zbb, to jump start a home-grown clean energy industry, building on the good work of your governor and others in the state. that's why i'm here today. because the steps we've taken to strengthen the economy, zbb received a loan that's helping to fund an expansion of your operations. already it's allowed zbb to retain nearly a dozen workers. over time the company expects to hire about 80 new workers. this is leading to new business for your suppliers, including mgs plastics and other manufacturers here in wisconsin, and zbb is also planning to take advantage of a special tax credit to build another factory in southeastern wisconsin so we can create more jobs and more opportunity. and eric is confident that you can expand because you're seeing rising demand for advanced batteries. all of this is part of steps we've taken in clean energy. st steps that led to manufacturing, wind turbines, solar panels, building hybrid and electric vehicles, modernizing our electric grids so we have more sources of renewable energy -- >> you're listening to the president speak about the economy. he will be there for a fundraiser before heading to los angeles later this evening. that's where we want to take you right now. there's a second high speed chase taking place as you can see on your screen. the vehicle leading police on the chase as best it's being described to us in south los angeles. it's a significant problem at times like this, 9:20 in the morning in l.a., with so much traffic during drive time, the potential for accidents and other people getting involved in chases like this can cause a concern. this obviously is taking place on a side street. this is not on one of freeways themselves and there we watch this vehicle as it passes through a busy intersection and through another. right now you can see the highway patrol there traveling right behind it as well. there was another vehicle, a short time earlier with a chase thxt one appears to be ending as they pull their weapons out. you can see the individual getting out of that vehicle right now on the side of your screen with their hands in the air. obviously the concern for officers is to make sure this person does not pose a threat to them, not a threat to anybody else, but also not a threat to the officers with their hands in the air so they cannot grab a weapon. we're being told that authorities say this vehicle was suspected to have been stolen at some point as well as this chase appears to be coming to an end safely and peace any. it's worth noting a short time ago when we covered one of these chases, even as it appeared to be over, the individual who laid on the ground and put his hands out above his head, got back in his vehicle and tried to drive off. you can see the massive show of force from police there, at least a half dozen vehicles behind it. there appears to be a safe and peaceful resolution to this this morning. gulf sh rrimpers are back t work but there are concerns if people will end up buying gulf seafood. we can find out when bp will permanently fix the blown out well. it has been at least a month since oil leaked out but problems keep cropping up. that's putting off the final fix. charles hadlock is live in venice, louisiana. what's the wait? what are we holding out for? >> reporter: it all goes back to the static kill, which was done about ten days ago. they pumped enough cement and mud into that well that went all the way down to the bottom and up the sides of the casing. that's exactly where the relief well was going to int intersect. they've ordered bp to continue testing the well. we should get an update from admiral thad allen what the test results are. at that point he says it would take four days to gear up the operation, we're looking at the bottom kill operation probably concluding this coming weekend. that's news everyone here is waiting to hear. >> charles, thanks very much. day 13 of deliberations in the rod blagojevich corruption trial and still, nothing. no verdict from the jury. could the disgraced former governor end up getting off the hook? we'll take you live to the courthouse after this break. she felt lost... until the combination of three good probiotics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. ...and? it helped balance her colon. oh, now that's the best part. i love your work. 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[ bat cracks ] that's a hit. one a day men's. here are top stories we're following this morning. bp could decide whether to press forward with the bottom kill procedure that would permanently plug the damaged well in the gulf. astronauts are hoping today's spacewalk, the third in ten days, will be the final one needed to install a new coolant pump on the international space station. and border patrol has seen the largest spike in suicides in 20 years. 15 asians have taken their own life since february of 2008. 93-year-old zsa zsa gabor received her last rites, doctors say the hollywood legend is in extremely serious condition. we'll keep you up to date on her. president obama is zeroing in on the economy, speaking moments ago at a battery plant, touting the stimulus which provided a more than one million dollar loan to help the economy expand. why we seem to get bombarded by negative news, the president says things are definitely improving. >> we've now added private sector jobs for seven months in a row. that means the worst mistake we could make is to go back to doing what we were doing that got us into the mess that we were in. we can't turn back. we've got to keep going forward. >> we are joined now by former clinton labor secretary robert reich at u.c. berkeley. we appreciate your time. a couple of months ago you said we were headed for what some refer to as the double dip recession, you changed a little bit that we never left the recession, it is one long big dipper. >> when you look at last month's employment report and see only 12,000 new jobs were created overall, that is not including the census worker who's came in and also exited and also last week's claims the first time claims for unemployment insurance were back to what they were in february, the same level they were in february. i think the president is correct, we don't want to go backwards, but we still have a long, long way to go. we haven't come out of the recession for most american families. >> jobs came back at a faster pace, even in march of 1933 after the economy started to recover from the depths of the great depression and they are coming back now. i guess the question that americans want to know and frankly the administration looking for answers to too, what do you propose we do now? >> there are a lot of things that can be done. first thing we must do is no any longer listen to the deficit hawks although the long-term deficit is a problem, right now the problem is getting people back to work. even if they have to create a works project administration like the great depression or have a temporary holiday on payroll taxes, let's say take the first $20,000 of payroll taxes and say nobody has to pay payroll taxes on the first $20,000 for a year or two years, those steps and other steps like them would get people employed and that has to be the number one objective. you can't deal with the long-term future budget deficit unless people are back to work right now. >> professor reich, the national debt that now stops $13 trillion, can we afford to spend more money? >> not only can we afford it, the question should be, can we afford not to? the issue is the ratio of the debt to the total economy. and that's going to get worse and worse and worse if the economy doesn't grow. the reason we got out of the depths of the great depression and spend like mad during world war ii and found by the 1950s that actually the ratio of the national debt to the total economy started heading downward, was because the economy kept growing and was growing very, very fast. we've got to get back to that kind of growth and got to get people back to work to get to that kind of growth. all of this deficit stuff is right now is nonsense. >> robert reich, former labor secretary in the clinton administration, now professor at u.c. berkeley. thank you. the remaining 10,000 american combat troops will be leaving iraq more than seven years after the initial invasion, marks a key pushing point and richard engel is embedded with the troops at camp liberty, iraq. give us a sense what they are saying as they prepare to depart. >> reporter: clearly they are very excited. we are embedded with troops from the 42 striker brigade, they are based at fort lewis, in washington state and they are the last combat troops in iraq. some of them have already been leaving. we've been broadcasting pictures of them getting on planes and heading home. they have been packing up most of the soldiers here are already packed and have -- just allowed two dufle bags per man and they are waiting for final orders to leave the country. when they are all gone by the end of the month, operation iraqi freedom, that war that began when we watched it seven and a half years ago in march of 2003, all of that sacrifice, all of that commitment, 4,400 american soldiers killed in this battle, that will be ending. operation iraqi freedom will be offer when the troops leave by the end of the month. >> i'm struck by the kind of kasm that exists between the average iraqi on the streets. i know you had a chance to go out. give us a sense of what stories you're hearing from the iraqi people. >> reporter: it's not so much that they are -- they are talking about two different things really. the u.s. military came here with a fairly specific task. the military came to topple a dictator, saddam hussein, the military did that. they were then asked in the surge to stop a civil war and they did that. they were asked to also create iraqi security forces that could maintain a level of law and order and they have done that. there are about 600,000 trained iraqi army and police on the streets in baghdad right now. what the army was never able to do and really they were not asked to do, is create a stable iraqi political system to create a functioning government. and that is what iraqis are complaining about. the social services don't work, they don't trust their politicians. the politicians are corrupts. this is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. the quality of life for iraqis, certainly it's safer on the streets. they do have armed rvices but it is a very difficult place to live and that's what iraqis are complaining about. >> we are proud of their service and welcoming them home when they get here. thank you. the clan des tyne war is expanding. the attacks along the pakistan/afghanistan mountains, precision air strikes in yemen are examples of that. the u.s. is intensifying operations to keep al qaeda on the run. joining us is evan coleman, the founder of the global terror alert. these operations have not been officially acknowledged by the administration right now. i want to get a sense from you, what successes are out there right now that they would sort of pin their hat on. >> if you look at the situation with al qaeda right now, it's not just the afghan pakistani border, not just iraq. there are al qaeda cells or al qaeda affiliates in a bunch of different places, including places we don't have troops on the ground. places like somalia, yemen, it's essential we go after these conflicts not just because of the fact they represent a regional threat, but as rewe awe with abdulmutallab, there is an actual threat. if we launch too many missiles or kill too many civilians or do things that infringe upon the sovereignty, there is blow back, that's one of things we're dealing with in yemen, the missile strikes, there's no doubt about it we're killing al qaeda personnel, whether they come from boats or planes, we're killing them. the question is that in terms of a long-term political solution for yemen that will ends up with no al qaeda left there, are we endangering any kind of long-term political situation? it appears that the conflict in yemen is getting worse, not better. >> and yemen specifically, we actually, the american troops we should note, killed province's deputy governor that caused the blow back to which you're referring. are these shadow wars making us safer or less safe? >> it's not clear right now. there are certain aspects no doubt making us safer. if you kill someone like the senior leader who was killed last december in an air strike, no doubt that saves lives. are we pushing others to join the movements? more people like abdulmutallab and faisal shahzad. in his martyrdom video, i'm doing this because you're launching missile and killing civilians here in waziristan. and whether or not that's justified or not, his response, we have to keep that in mind that there are consequences for our actions. whether it involves troops on the ground in afghanistan or missile strikes in yemen or pakistan. >> as john brennan says, it's a scalpel, not a hammer but it does come with risks. thank you very much. can you picture lindsay lohan as a mentor? in case you missed it, tmz is citing sources who tell them lindsay lohan is quote, passionate about mentoring the girls she's met in rehab. the website also reports she isn't 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>> sure, peter. what's going on hire, girls are being given a treatment for something that's a legitimate disorder. but what they are trying to do is prevent the development of gental ya. it may reduce the rates of homosexual or buy sexuality in these girls. we've raised a question of why this is happening, as this being a benefit of a treatment. we don't think of homosexuality as a disease. >> i read a little bit this in the reporting done recently and there is one statement that says my indicating the situation is the fact this hormone pill does nothing to treat or cure the underlying condition. i guess the question is, what is the effect of this? what do you think the risk is and what's the potential benefit? >> well, the major risk we've been concerned with is that it looks like the hundreds of women given this treatment were aware this was an experimental drug. if that's the case these women who were pregnant were being experimented on without their knowledge. that's the thing we're really concerned with. we called the feds and asked them to investigate the institutions involved. >> alice dreger at northwestern university weighing in on a topic many will learn about, carrying a possible side effect of limiting homosexuality. we appreciate your time, thank you. here's what's happening later today. thad allen is talking about the latest effort to plug bp's blown out well for good. bp is about four days away from finishing drilling those relief wells. in about three hours, the memorial service is supposed to begin for former alaska senator ted stevens, died in a plane crash last week. that plane went down in a remote area in alaska. investigators are still trying to find out exactly why. in about three and a half hours, former president clinton will campaign with kendrick meek in south florida, in a tight race for senate and hoping president clinton will give his campaign a boost in the final weeks before the state's primary. y relief, comes in a new liquid gel. new zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air®. but my doctor told me that most calcium supplements... aren't absorbed properly unless taken with food. he recommended citracal. it's different -- it's calcium citrate, so it can be absorbed with or without food. citracal. save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance?really is having a snowball fight with pitching great randy johnson a bad idea? 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>> in you look at the impact of 500 students in school and multiply that by a number of schools, the supply budget could be a substantial one. if we're providing all of the supplies for all of the kids, touf make a decision in terms of what you're able to do. one superintendent indicated they would have to look at personnel issues in our case, looking at the cost of a text book $45 or month as an average, up to $70, that becomes a substantial amount. you make a decision in terms of what we can provide for students to provide them the best education they can have. >> hopefully there's a tee pea maker saying free toilet paper for everybody. >> wouldn't that be great. >> up next, andrea mitchell reports, president obama diving head first into the ground zero mosque controversy, handing republicans a new election year issue. she will also speak with bill nar candidate for senate in florida, jeff green. up next live on msnbc. ey got gr. cars built for the autobahn. people are gonna be driving crazy in the jetta... ...the routan, and the cc. that cc is gorgeous. that jetta is awesome. my wife loves her new routan. and they all come with that carefree maintenance. scheduled maintenance included. we're not shopping for cars here, people. c'mon! well, i am now. that's kind of exciting. 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