consequence from tuesday invasion of iraq. but 12 years later, republicans are still scrambling to answer questions about the war. the latwst senator marco rubio. >> six weeks ago, it made sense to invade iraq in 2003. now you say it was a mistake. two different questions. it was not a mistake. the president based on this is way the real world works. >> you were saying based on the information -- >> look. >> he was saying based on what we know now. >> well, based on what we know now, a lot of things. based on what we know now i wouldn't have thought manny pacquiao would beat. in fight. >> was it a mistake? >> it was not a mistake for the president to go in. in hijacked sight. the world is a better place because saddam hussein is not there. i don't understand the question you're asking. >> i'm asking you knowing, as we sit here in 2015. >> that's not the way a president talks. a president cannot make decision on what someone might know in the future. >> was it a mistake? >> it was not a mistake for the president to go in to iraq based on the information he was provided as president. >> i didn't think anyone could struggle with those questions more than jeb bush. but senator rubio is giving him a run for his money. and he wasn't the only 2016 hopeful legending former president bush this weekend. >> i did stand up defending the president. president bush. i think any president would have made a similar decision at the time with the information he had available. >> actually, we've got a president right now who said he wouldn't have made that decision. but if republicans are having a hard time figuring out what they would have done about the middle east a decade ago, how will they deal with the situation there today? the gop's supposed front runner is struggling to explain where he would break from his brother's legacy on iraq or anywhere else. >> some of you may know that w is my brother. i'm proud of that too. whether people don't like that or not. they're going to have to get used to it. >> we're getting used to it. but that may not be a good thing for jeb bush. or the gop. joining me now is dana milbank of the "washington post" and joan walsh of salon.com. thank you both for being here. >> good evening. >> dana, the challenges in the midll east are not hypothetical. how concerning is that it these presidential hopefuls seem to be lost? by the way, you at the "washington post," you all do fact collection. you might want to tell him, pacquiao didn't win the fight but that's an aside. >> and he couldn't remember who was in the fight either. knowing what we know now, to coin a phrase, i think all the republican candidates would have brushed up on this answer a long time ago and had something ready to go for an obvious question. and there is an obvious answer. . of course in retro perfect it was a mistake. that doesn't mean that given what they knew at the time it was a mistake. but it certainly means in retrospect it was a miss team of lindsey graham, the most hawkish one in the field this morning was saying, yeah, knowing what we know now, if we president he would have done things differently. any rational person would have done things differently in that circumstance. it sort of shows i think, the way the conservatives are competing for the party base. they're afraid to do anything that might move them even a millimeter to the left of some other guy. that inqludes not acknowledging an objection mistake that was made. >> joan, you wrote today that a lot of the attention has been on how badly prepared jeb bush and marco rubio were for these questions. you went on to say quote, the problems for the two are deeper than performance. neither can say clearly that the war was a mistake because they remain close to the neo cons in their world view and they don't believe it is a mistake. is this a place the republicans want to be? defending the iraq war in 2016? >> yeah. some of them. they don't want to be there because it is indefensible but some of them have to be someplace around there. that is where the neo cons are. marco rubio got four pinocchios from dana's paper from claiming george bush said it was a mistake. he did not. he said yes, mistakes were made. but when we say when we clood in this is because we went to war because we thought he had wmd but he didn't, we are colluding in a falsehood. that's not why they decided to go to war. they were fixing the intelligence to lead to the outcome they had already chosen. so i am very uncomfortable. it is great we can dance around and say they're terrible politicians which they are. >> and you know, it is interesting that dana, so few candidates want to criticize the decision to go to war. a recent poll found among republicans, 76% said history will judge the iraq war as a failure. 76% of republican voters. so why is it so hard for jeb bush and the others to say it? >> well, it is a little bit hard to understand. it is not necessarily your typical vote or your typical republican. it is the most extreme within the party who are going to be driving the conversation here. but look. it is a very fragmented party. you have rand paul who is a viable candidate saying very plainly up front that the reason we're having so much chaos in that region today is because of the decision to go to war in iraq a dozen years ago. and i think joan is right about the circumstances at the time in 2003. there was plenty of reason to have doubts back then. and i and others at my paper and other journalists were writing questions that the intelligence way back then. that doesn't mean it was a slam-dunk not to go to war. >> i remember we were marching in 2003. i ran for president in the early stages of 2003. but joan, the driver of your point, it is not that jeb bush and rubio good politicians. they're very good politicians. they make blunders. is there in this the type because of the world view of the neo cons controlling it. i think if we just asked like they can't answer questions. they're very good politicians. >> well, reasonably good. but this is not about that. >> skillful. >> they could master this question if it was really as easy asç we're all acting like it is. it is not easy for them because of what they truly believe about what went on in the middle east and iraq. >> i think you're right. and in an interview today msnbc's patrick murphy, house democratic leader nancy pelosi talked about the vote authorizing force in iraq. watch this. >> at the time when we were taking vote i was a senior democrat. i had again senior democrat on the intelligence committee. my statement at the time was, the intelligence does not support the threat. so the terminology knowing what we know now. no knowing what we influence then. the intelligence did not support the threat. >> dane hillary clinton has been criticized for not taking questions from the press. at this point is that helping her or hurting her? >> well on this issue perhaps it is helping her because she was on a different side of the issue from where you were and where nancy pelosi was. and where the democratic base wants her to be right now. i think hillary clinton's reluctance to open up the "ttuqáurjju in general is a problem for her and for the democrats. but on this one, it is a very obvious decision to make. she can't say what you just said. >> that's why i raised hillary clinton. >> knowing what we know now, we should have elected you. we would not be in this mess. >> i second that. the reason i raise this, this would have come up to hillary if she had to anxious a question. >> i think she could answer it. she has said her vote was a mistake even at the time. so i don't think she would stumble the way these guys are stumbling. >> and john kerry too. >> you can see the full interview with nancy pelosi. it will air sunday at 1:00 p.m. on msnbc. hillary clinton's iraq vote was a huge issue in 2008. how could she do better is some of the things we're going to see. joan walsh, dana milbank, thank you for your time tonight. straight ahead, big news from president obama on the road in camden new jersey, talking police reform. and ban splg military style equipment for police forces. >> how militarized gear can sometimes give people a feeling like there's an occupying force as opposed to a force that's part of the community that's protecting them and serving them. and only the, blood bath in waco. a texas crime scene that looks more like a hollywood crime scene. up to 170 face murder-related charges after a biker gang shootout. and can a plane be hacked in the air? 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>> biker gangs are no different than any other gang. they represent their colors. they represent their color. they're about hate. they're about money. they're about violence. and whether it be biker gangs or traditional street gangs, they held to same things dear. >> now what do you think happened here? what actually do you think is someone that knows their culture really made this happen? this seems like such a big, just the size of the crime is so big. >> i think what is not being reported is that this was a coalition meeting. it was a meeting of biker gangs clubs in the waco area. the meeting was being run or organized, administered by the bandidos who claim texas as their sovereign territory. and other gangs are there with their gang colors, formatted in a way that the bandidos didn't like. and you know what? with crips and bloods, red and blue, the same thing happens in biker gangs. with the way look and the way you dress is sometimes all it takes to set off a riot. >> you mention the bandidos. tell us about them. >> they're an international crime syndicate. very vicious worldwide. they're a very powerful nasty rough group of boys. >> jim the sheer size as i said of this crime and the investigation is mind boggling. so many people are under arrest. the latest number from police is 170. the crime scene spans an entire parking lot. and that parking lot has more than 100 motorcycles and at least 50 other vehicles officers have to check out. if you're in charge here, how do you go about processing that much evidence? >> it will be very difficult. let me say hello to jay who i haven't seen in. years and we're old colleagues. jay infiltrated the hell's angels which is no small feat. let me tell you. i started working on the biker gangs in '74. he got into the hell's angels. very few got into it. it is a huge scene. what will happen, atf, the state troopers, the waco police, they're going to forensically map it. they're going to photograph and it re-create in it court. the key will be video from the building, from the twin peaks or nearby restaurant so they can see who the trigger pullers are. they have 170 people charged with organized criminal activity related to capital murder. and jay can tell you, the bandidos will roll out high priced attorneys. they will fight this vigorously and it hard to keep it. and don't be surprised if the top echelons are making that million-dollar bail. i would 46th gang members are already consolidating money to get the top ranking bandido lead ferries they are captured out of jail quickly. >> they have that much money, jay? >> they do. that kind of money to these international crime syndicates, the equivalent of a lost french fry in the bottom of a happy meal bag. they have money. they will fund their way out of this. >> police say they have heavy security around the restaurant and the city. listen to this. >> what are we doing to protect everybody here? layers of protection. numerous officers here. yes, there was a grown light put out on law enforcement from last night. we're aware of that threat and we have the appropriate response. >> what do you expect to see in the aftermath of all of this? >> i think it will get worse before it gets better. i think these gangs are high on testosterone. they're not akin to backing down from each other. and the funerals for these dead gang members, highly volatile situations. very high emotions. and not only emotions for the morning gang members, but also, prime locations to attack again. it has been done before. it will be done again. >> is that what you mean when you say that kit get worse? define what you mean when you say it can get worse. >> these gangs won't lay down after there event. you won't spill that much blood and then have people shake hands or turn their backs and walk away. they're going to be looking for payback. they specialize in violence and intimidation. they don't like to be intimidated. it will get worse. >> wow, that's scary. we certainly pray for peace. twin peaks is a franchise. police say it is not cooperating and this statement was released. unfortunately the management team of the franchised restaurant in waco close to ignore the warnings and advice from both the police and our company. we will not tolerate the actions of this relatively new franchise and are immediately revoking their franchise agreement. how do you handle a business like this when you're in the field? >> well, the police went to the management and they warned them them asked them not to let people in the club who they thought would harm others. who were known to the police. operates can tell people they can't wear their colors. their insignia on the back. certain bars and restaurants say you can't fly it in the bar. they were trying to work with the restaurant. the state liquor board revoked their license. one comment to build on what he was saying. the traditional outlaw motorcycle gang funeral has hundreds of bikers gathered together. at the gravesite they pull out their guns and shoot in the air. it is standard practice. it has been that way for 40 years and it really can be a very violent and volatile beginning of something that happened. >> jim cavanagh, jay dobbins, thank you for your time tonight. a chilling complaint that he hacked a plane's controls. is that really possible? 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>> i'm thrilled. you used the operative word i can't tell you, well you wonlds at this time most, the young people in ferguson needed some signs that their complaints were receiving an ear. and the president did just that. he said we hear you. and i've been on the streets when that kind of thing happened. it was ugly. it looked unamerican. and i think the president has taken some great steps here. we probably need to codify it so that a future president can't change it. it is an executive order. it is the right thing to do. he said that he thought the program had gotten out of control. the 1033 program. today we can point to young african-americans and latinos saying people do in fact listen to you. >> and i think that was something that definitely came out of ferguson. all of us that were involved were trying to say these young people were raising concerns and everybody had when they started seeing this kind of ammunition and kind of military kind of environment. >> yeah. definitely. it is a sub tan i have the move on the part of the president. one thing it does is instill public confidence in law enforcement by really hearing as congress indicated, by responding to that which has been expressed by individuals like yourself who has been advocating on reform ideas, et cetera. that's promoting good community based. if someone questioned the need for these types of weapons, it is significant. and this action increases. it heightens the standards of professional standards in law enforcement. it is important to benefit both the community and in policing. it increases professional standards and accountability for the equipment that they use. >> the federal government congressman, spent $18 billion on program that provided police military grade tools. including over 92,000 small arms. over 44,000 night vision devices. 617 mine resistant vehicles. these tools won't be so readily available anymore. how much will that change policing? >> i think it will change it significantly because you won't have the small police departments without the financial resources to train the officers in using the equipment. using them as the president said, as an occupying force, patrolling the land they've conquered. time, i think this is extremely important. cities like new york new jersey over in newark, for example, they can make application to get the special equipment they need because they are center of a terrorist attack. if terrorists strike they probably will want to hit new york. so they'll be able to get equipment they need and deserve that may an smaller community shouldn't even think about getting. the president was in camden, new jersey and i'm fwam camden who has had its issues with police. they've made real edge in brigs the divide. >> perhaps most significantly is that the police and residents are building trust. the approach that the chief has taken in getting them out of their squad cars into the communities, getting them familiar with the people that they're serving. they're enjoying their jobs more. they feel as if over time, they can have more of an impact and they're getting more help from the community. the community has seen them and knows them. before there's a crisis. we're here all the time and hopefully we can prevent the shoot frgs happening in the first place. >> it sounds simple. i know to know the neighborhood police, they're out of the car, they relate to you. i remember the police in my high school, ralph, he used to counsel me through my parents' separation and all. when you had that kind of what seems simple but it is a big deal when it is not there. it is about building trust between the police and how the community see each other. >> nowadays we talk about building these relationships and increasing community policing and it seems innovative. community-based policing has been, the model everybody should have subscribed to and stayed with. i think they have moved toward heavy enforcement and militarized policing. so that which is done in camden thinking about new ways to increase community participation is hugely significant and perhaps could be modeled elsewhere along with some federal funding support they're receiving. >> thank you for your time this evening. >> good to be with you. thank you. straight ahead, could a hacker take over a plane's controls in the air? 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here's nbc's kerry sanders. >> reporter: chris roberts is either a hacker who has uncovered a dangerous back door that could allow a passenger to take control of a plane. >> it is definitely possible to manipulate the electronics through the inflied entertainment system. or or an exaggerator needlessly scaring the flying public. the fbi says in a newly public affidavit, he claim he hacked into a plane's entertainment system. up to 20 times. in one case caused one of the airplane engines to climb resulting in lateral movement of the plane. while agents continue to look for evidence of that the fbi issued a statement late sunday. there is no credible information to suggest an airplane's flight control system can be accessed or manipulated from its inflight entertainment system. >> joining me now, jay rollins, a retired american airlines captain and a former u.s. navy aviator. jay responded today, we will continue to continue with the fbi on its investigation. but our internal review with our aircraft manufacturer partners makes us confident these claim are unfounded. do you think this is possible? is it possible? >> i think there is concern that it may be possible. but there isn't anything that has occurred to this point that i'm aware of that proves that it can be done. there is a little bit of worry because a newer aircraft use as fly by wire system which is all electronic. so if someone were able to hack into the electronics, presumably they could then fly the plane. but older aircraft when you disconnect the auto pilot have a totally manual control so that isn't really feasible. >> what kind of security do planes have to keep something like this from happening? >> well, bowing has been very quiet about this situation. whether he have totally different electronics that are not interconnected or if they're using some sort of an electronic software a fire wall that keeps them apart. that could be important. but the faa has been worried enough about it that they actually did put out an air worthiness directive a year or two ago that addressed this very issue. >> i'm out of time. how long do you think it will take on investigate this, jay? 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>> yeah. >> there are so many. we have a chapter on relationships. we interviewed the ceo of wednesday. an incredibly powerful woman an incredibly lovely woman as well. graceful articulate, what she's done with that company. back in the late 80s, being able to see the future for it and mov[ng toward healthy food before america start asking for it. an incredible business woman obviously. she talks about navigating her family. she said she leaves her crown in the garage every day. she goes home, she takes ceo crown off and she is, i don't want to use the word sub servient because that has a bad connotation but she changes her role. her power shift when she goes home. that's how she's made a 35-year marriage work. i found that to be honest raw and interesting. >> now, did you a whole chapter on millennial women. >> yes. they're different. >> what specifically do you want millennial women to take away from the book? >> well, i think that we often have sold them, oversold them on our bail to break the glass ceiling. slow down. enjoy the moment, first of all. your career will be long. unlike mine which i always felt like it had a shelf life. i was wrong about. that there's will last as long as they want it to. so work on excellence. so whether you're bringing coffee or making copies and maybe you hate your job. learn to do it exaeq1e9ñ don't sort of try to jump ahead just because a lot of other millennials may have hit the jackpot or cracked the code and made millions of dollars. most of us learn to do small things right. that actually can really an part of building your brand. being really good at everything that you do. >> thank you for your time. be sure to pick up your copy of grow your value in stores now. and meet her on the road. thank you. straight ahead mitt romney and evander holyfield walked into a boxing ring. no, really, they did. the recap in salt lake city is next. the network that monitors her health. the secure cloud services that store her genetic data the servers and software on a mission to find the perfect match. and the mom who gets to hear her daughter's heart beat once again. we're helping organizations transform the way they work so they can transform the lives of the people they serve. it was billed as the million-dollar fight. the unlikely duo of mitt romney and five-time champ evander holyfield, squaring off in the ring for charity. what could possibly go wrong? 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